The Redemption of Carlos Sainz?
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Are we witnessing a redemption? All Sainz point to yes...
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Oh dear lord no, please don't curse our Smooth Operator, Josh, we've already lost so many promising drivers to your kiss of deathesque predictions...
They said the same thing about the wtf1 podcast before Singapore, chill
Sainz about to have engine failure in formation lap because of Revell curse
Can someone name every driver who has suffered from revell curse?
He already made a vid on sainz
@@Tzomthekliafafanboy Yeah, even made a joke about it in this very video.
Here comes the Josh Revell jinx!!!
RIP Carlos F1 career.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Brother is to F1 what Drake is to the UFC
He’s not important enough to jinx anyone
I knoooooooow…. Why the hell did he have to do tho to Carlos?! 😅
I swear if his form drops off after you post this video mate...
bro jinx it
i have bad news for you
Gotem
Hahah 😂
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McLaren was the only team that truly appreciated Carlos. Fight me.
Binotto appreciated Carlos way more than you'd think, just saying.
@@EllySensei yeah Binotto even wanted to adjust the car to fit Carlos a bit better...Vasseur's regime has heavily favoured Leclerc.
@@gamewondertv7934It was pretty obvious that Leclerc was the one who took Vasseur out of Sauber and into the Scuderia. I assume Leclerc told the Ferrari higher-ups if they were to not give in to his demands, probably because of clear bias within Binotto and his cohorts, he would walk out, leave, and never come back. Elkann was backing him, Piero Ferrari was there. Pretty much the higher-ups were on his aisle.
@@gamewondertv7934and by the way, you can also say Binotto has a regime too when he was leading.
Him, Sanchez, Mekies, Rueda, they were pretty much the big guys. Reports say Binotto's micromanagement led engineers there really hurt the team's morale in the long term.
@@EllySensei Absolutely. Binotto's regime had lots of negatives, I certainly prefer Vasseur's leadership. But Binotto liked Sainz a lot more than Vasseur does.
What redemption? He didn't need any redemption. He was always an excellent driver.
Exactly. I think Josh is forgetting that some of those times Charles finished ahead of Carlos, were down to Ferrari strategy calls. Especially when Carlos was asked to move over to let Charles pass.
And while there were comments about Carlos spinning and losing it several times, it is almost completely ignored that Charles has thrown away several great results with silly mistakes.
Focusing on one drivers errors and pretty much ignoring the other drivers errors is hardly a fair comparison. It still stands that in his first year with the team, he beat the guy who was already established in the team, and his gap to Charles has never been massive, so why is one the holy messiah and the other needs "redemption"?
@@caphowdy666 Lol what. Have you read any comment section? People rip into charles over tha smallest error and act like hes one of the most crashiest drivers on the grid, when the exact opposite is the reality
Charles was 14-5 with Carlos in the races when neither of them had issues in 2021. Its just that Carlos had a perfect season both in terms of reliablity and other outside factors, and even then he only beat Charles by less than 10 points. 25 points in Monaco,a likely podium in Hungary, and went from good points to none in russia because he got left out when the rain fell.
Charles also lost double the points to reliability and outside factors in both 2022 and 2023, and still beat Carlos.
Charles beat Carlos comfortably in 2022, would have done in 2021 and they were neck and neck in most of the races of 2023. But when it counted, Charles went to another level, and scored more points than any driver (except him) in the final 7 races, despite a DNS and a DSQ, and ultimatley jumped Carlos, who in turn crumbled and fell to 7th.
Have you not watch 2022 and 2023?
@@dylanburston7453Charles Leclerc is a God-tier driver. If F1 was only about driving skill, Verstappen would have a run for his money. Problem is, Ferrari (at least when run by Italians) have been stuck in their trap of deifying one driver before remembering “oh shit, the rules say we have to have two” since seeing what the small Frenchman instituted with every teammate of the German. Other problem is, Charles has had a tendency to what I call the George Russell school of racing. Nobody can drive at 110% every lap of every race like these lads think they can. He’s nothing like as bad as George, but he definitely has a long way to go to get his head game down to a world champion level.
I think this is something drivers raised by Red Bull get, while Mercedes and Ferrari wouldn’t tolerate that sort of defeatism. Just like Max, and Seb, Carlos knows how and when to give it enough (though Max needed MANY years to mature, and Carlos never had anything close to a dominant car). If the old Maranello doctrine of “never let your number two race the Chosen One”, they’d have quite a different balance. Maybe Charles would still have been 2-1 up, but it would be because of stepping up his game. It was Sainz who pulled Ferrari out of the doldrums from the start of the second half of last year. Without Qatar and Vegas - misfortunes that not even the most fervent Sainz haters could blame on him, Sainz would’ve beaten Alonso and Leclerc. It took a Frenchman to put right the long-term damage done by the other one. Maybe Charles will benefit from the more pragmatic approach, being that he’s less likely to be pushed by the wayside if he doesn’t always perform at the same level as Hamilton. Vasseur is the best gift Ferrari could ever have hoped for. I don’t think Lewis would even have entertained the thought of joining an Italian-led clown fiesta Ferrari, but he owes a lot to Fred and he knows he’s in the best hands.
(The only people who could blame what happened to Carlos in Qatar and Vegas on the driver impacted are the “every teammate Lewis ever had including the Finnish ones was the superior driver but wokeness and stuff“ people)
“Twitch streamer and part time racing driver Lando Norris” I laughed way to hard at this😂
Really? That joke is so old.
LMAO SAME
@@TheLibermanianot everyone has heard the jokes you know fam
I'm STILL upset about that drainhole cover in Vegas.
I know right. My man got fucked over
Yes.. that was a really bad break.
Redemption? Nah, this guy has been an amazingly talented driver gradually developing into a complete driver. Dude is just the definition of consistency.
i mean he talks in the video about the lack of consistency. so not sure about that. he has the talent but he does struggle to put it all together
@@WCmexico98 His start to 2022 was extremely rough. It was the first time he had a car capable of winning in F1 and I think the pressure got to him and he was pushing past his limits. It was embarrassing, tbh. But outside of that, he's earned his Smooth Operator nickname for good reason.
He was on a steady rise up to McLaren, and once he was able to settle in at Ferrari, he's been fairly consistent. He's driven so many different cars in his career, that his adaptability has to be mentioned. Doesn't drive dirty, has good race awareness, has shown quickness over his career even if it's not at the level of Max and Charles. He carries himself very well and there's definitely something to be said that everywhere he goes, his team always has tons of respect for him. Even McLaren still celebrates for him when he's won races at Ferrari. I'm not saying he's the GOAT, I'm not saying he's the best driver on the grid, but the dude is solid. Every driver has their bad days, but overall Sainz is consistent. We just tend to zone out and forget the days he's consistent and only remember the extremes.
@@MrBrian-fq4lr we'll have to agree to disagree. he's definitely lacked consistency everywhere he's driven. that doesn't mean he's not a good driver. but he does tend to show flashes of brilliance in small stints and then it disappears completely. i think we remember the extremes of every driver, but even if he's consistent, it's normally consistent in the lower points rather than above p5. it's not a bad thing!
Big loss for Ferrari considering who is going to take his seat next year.
@@gangoffour6690 the guy who beat carlos sainz in championship standing with shitty mercedes ?
Yea I think he did really well in Dakar
Oh, the other one?
Been pulling for Carlos since he joined the grid with Max. I'm one of those people that always chooses "the other option" (takes tails, turns left, etc.) and since Max was the chosen one, I picked Carlos. Also being very casually aware of who his dad was too. Started to like him more after DTS, and appreciated him as the underdog going his own way outside of Redbull. It's been hard watching him take all the hate at Ferrari over the years, but he's impressively kept his composure through all of it. He's had his moments, and it's been so gratifying watching him get them. But even his first win was tainted with hate and controversy. It's a bit weird seeing him get all this praise lately, and it makes me a bit sad that when he comes back down to earth, the hate will start to pile on again. I don't know where he's gonna land next year, but I hope he can drive a competitive car again in the future.
Well said!!
Dont you dare curse Carlos "Smooth Operator" Sainz, Josh.
This is towards his dad
Carlos has always been wildly underrated. He's never been bad and has always been a class driver
he's never been bad but he also hasn't ever been great for more than two successive races
Seeing Alonso and Sainz in the same team would be quite cool.
PLEASE SAVE DADDY SAINZ 😭
Who's better between Sainz and Leclerc is not the question. The important thing is that Sainz must be considered as one of the top tier drivers on the grid. He's so underrated.
I am withholding judgement about who's the better driver until the last lap of 2024. Sainz has a fire burning inside that I have not seen in prior years. He wants to leave his mark on Ferrari and have Leclerc second guessing himself all season. So far, it is working.
Carlos is just a great driver
Redemption? Nah, let's call it a RENAISAINZ
*Proceeds to get immediatly blocked*
Nuh uh. That was funny. You just proceeded to get more subs.
Well Josh, you’ve just jinxed Carlos
He jinxed both 😉
If sainz’s performance drops after this I am unsubbing and reporting your channel
so real
He's very professional despite what is happening to him...just like his legendary dad....professional despite the challenges....
I think changing Sainz for Hamilton was a terrible mistake by Ferrari
It could be the best thing ferrari has done in 2 decades if Newey comes to Ferrari because he said he wants to work with hamilton
Lewis' ego and paranoia will NOT play well with Ferrari's culture and operational 'difficulties.'
Who is here after he just binned it in the china quali 😂
Whose here after he still made it to Q3 anyways
Josh you bloody jinxed it
Josh this video is wonderful and amazing and very well done (even though it doesn’t even start to acknowledge some of the miracles he pulled in a tractor of a McLaren)
But god do I hope Carlos is still immune to your curse 🙃
Carlos JUST spun in Q2 Goddammit Josh!
Carlos saw this vid and nearly crashed in Q2. Just to give the curse a chance
yknow what i love about your videos? the goddamn music and dynamic. simply amazing
He might not have the same level of one-lap speed like Charles, but he has the quality race craft which has matured well over the years.
Many says Josh jynxed Carlos with this video. His race pace today was much slower than Leclerc's, reminding me of the 2022 times
That's not josh's fault,Leclerc was faster in race pace compared to carlos in all the races excluding bahrain this year but he constantly messed up in quali. In Australia I think leclerc was slightly faster (10 secs gap in second stint doesnt matter if you close it up to 2 secs by the end despite starting 2 positions behind and being on a worse strategy) And in China for the first time they qualified next to each other this season and the pace difference becomes apparent even though I expected Sainz to do better on this track due to being more experienced but I was wrong
Love ur vids bro ❤🙌
What did you do Josh?! What did you do...
One thing Ferrari have been great at over the last few years is when they are in the lead, the ask " how can we fuck this one up?" And then proceed to do so as hard as possible.
Leclerc and Sainze suffered heavily from bad team decisions.
Love all your videos josh 👌🏻 will you ever continue the WTF series?
hope you're happy, @josh, that first "amirite?" broke my Merc loving soul
When you put a man without any certainty about his future and his career, the determination just get bigger and bigger
excelent video, will be interesting to see what happens going forward
YOU JINXED HIM
Awesome video mate
Got to give you credit for releasing this just before a race weekend, that's faith in your convictions
Great video Josh. Packed with style and quality.
You will be lynched by the Tifosi if you have put the Hex on.
You can’t say they fired the wrong driver, Ferrari just made the wrong choice completely in just not keeping Sainz. They’ve fired Sainz, the only person to win outside of Redbull in the last 20+ races or so, for Lewis, who hasn’t won in 3 years, and is currently P8 in the standings. They should’ve just kept Sainz with Leclerc, Lewis hasn’t showing anything worth buying for multiple years now.
He put a question mark in the title so it cancels out the jinx
Recency bias is a huge issue in motorsports and sports in general
Ferrari didn’t fire the wrong driver, they signed the wrong driver
the guy who finished in P3 2023 driver championship ?
@@Dendyaryadi yes, im not saying hamilton is bad, I just think he isn’t that much better than sainz. Plus he is much older. Sainz could last Ferrari a decade.
This is one of your best videos. Well done. And as a Carlos fan it strikes a chord.
well done mate
I became a fan for him when in Barcelona I saw him driving a formula 1 car, fixing clowinsh strategies and ordering the tv helicopter to fly higher since it was hindering him with downforce.
"Twitch stream and part time F1 driver"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 That cracked me up...
There goes my boy Carlos😔💔
Gonna watch the vid rn, i will let yall know if its bopping or nah
11 Minutes in, worth it
When is a Josh video not at least decent?
@@TheFatSandwhich never, it’s always a 10/10
At 6:31 it kinda looks like Sainz is about to take a dump in his car.
Of course you jinxed him :(
Watching this after his spin in Q2 😭
I need to point out that he didn't out-score Leclerc by the end of last year because of the Las Vegas drain cover. He barely got a working car, the shitbox he was driving was held together by spit, prayers and the last of the mechanic's dignity and he had the racecraft to put that corpse of a car up in P2 right behind his teammate. Then he got hit by a penalty he didn't deserve and, naturally, didn't recover beyond that. He also hit another bump or drain either the next race after Vegas or the one after that and his car got further damage. Leclerc out-scored him for six points, he was leading Leclerc the entire year until Vegas. So... just wanted to clarify that for you.
What about leclerc in bahrain?What about leclerc in Brasil?And in Vegas carlos never had the race pace to be anywhere near charles and would've lost to him anyway
Carlos' win at Singapore was in my birthday. Great day to be a Tifosi
I remember his dad. Specifically I remember his dad's car breaking down when he was about to become champion.
🥺
Here after the Sprint, let's see how fast the Josh curse really is...
Day after this got posted - first race of the season where he finishes behind Charles
nice video bro
He's had a really great couple years in Dakar, cool to see him in formula one now.,
"Sainz rolled up his sleeves, and went straight to E.R!" Hysterical!
You’ve got to admit sainz’s wins have been incredibly unlucky for Charles. Charles our qualifies Carlos time and time again, but when verstappen had a bad weekend he didn’t perform
Every time Carlos does something good, you have Charles stans crawling out of the woodwork making excuses. Both Charles and Carlos have their good days and bad days. Sometimes they line up, sometimes they're opposite. Just celebrate when your driver does good and quit trying to bring the other guy down when they don't. Charles is great, but his fans are the worst.
@@flips220 I’m not saying sainz is bad, I’m a sainz fan. Both have bad weekends and good weekends, charles has just been unlucky that when Carlos does better an opportunity opens up at the front of the grid. If verstappen had more problems at the races between Singapore and Australia and charles or someone else won we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Charles out qualified sainz 9/11 and the two times he didn’t, max had problems.
@@kugsyy i find funny this underlying tone in the arguments that basically imply "Charles has been destroying Sainz", when they've been the most evenly matched pairing in the grid results-wise. The argument falls apart when you compare it to Max vs Checo or Alonso vs Stroll. That is complete annihilation. Sainz and Leclerc just go back and forth throughout the season.
@@TheProkonover not really. they've been evenly matched wins wise. but Charles has overall had stronger pace and has more poles/podiums. the only reason they go back and forth is because the car tends to go in different directions. 2022: car had a strong front end (charles prefers oversteer). car veered toward a better rear end at the beginning of 2023, favoring carlos who prefers understeer
@@flips220 i think that's exactly where he has got step up on
Epic jinx. Omg
nvm lads the car is still moving... we move!!!
Bro started this video in a way I was not ready for
YOU JINXED HIM!
Unbelievable that this man doesn't have a seat yet.
When he does land a seat, it is going to be with a top team, and it is going to be a very lucrative financial agreement. Every visit to the podium is worth many millions of dollars in his future contract.
Carlos has been given a raw deal from Ferrari I think it’s his goal going forward to make them regret that.
Renaissainz 🤔
aaaaaaand now he just lost to charles in sprint.
Sainz hasnt dropped in form mate its just that Charles found his footing
It's just a sprint..chill
@@janhavi.v1320 ? You are still commenting this after Charles beat Carlos in the race aswell so are you behind in time or what?
could you cover Tomas Enge sometime, he looks as pretty interesting driver, he also my home country driver
Yeah
A Renaisainz if you will.
Josh is a lot like gege akutami (author of jjk), he just decides to curse a driver and boom they're form is gone
yup.. jinxed it !
Nice job Josh, Carlos crashed out in Q2
Edit: nvm the damage wasn’t terminal, he’s in Q3
7:47 now that's a jinx if I ever heard one
Hey dude, have you considered making a video about Jarno Trulli? I think his story in f1 is very overlooked. Not the best of the grid during the race, but his qualifying skills were excellent. I still remember his pole/victory in Monaco 2004. You should consider it. Greetings :)
I never slept on him. In my opinion he’s always been a good driver even back in the Renault days and that car wasn’t that great at all. Idk what team will pick him up for the 2025 season but whoever does they got one heck of a driver.
12:17 bro, that transition 💀💀
Fan of both Ferrari drivers. I think they're just very different, Charles being the more naturally talented. However, Carlos has always been the more strategic and level-headed driver. That's a skill not as valued on the tracks, but I really admired especially in the team he's in.
sainz is a great driver. he should be on the grid next season
Well Carlos, I hope you enjoyed your run of good performances, because Josh just made a video about you.
Part IV should have been titled Sainz' Revenge Tour.
That's some scary moves dude... Why aren't you using this for Max every race?
At this point the amout of money surfshark has use for sponsoring his channel is enough for a new car
I'm here to see how long you ride the wave of finally being correct at something in F1.
I like Sainz. He's a very nice, well-rounded driver. But the recency bias with him is absolutely insane.
3 good races and its his 'redemption arc'. Just before that, he was driving absolutely shit.
@@askeladden450not really even in the last races of last season he was close to leclerc but about two tenths off on average, that’s probably better than what Ferrari expected when they signed him given what leclerc did to vettel.
@@Hugo-ie4cp well, 2020 was a car that favored leclerc. If leclerc gets that kind of a car again, it would have been the same. We all saw how far back sainz was in 2022. Even with leclerc losing 100+ points to misfortune, sainz couldnt even come close. 2021 and 2023 cars favored sainz, and still leclerc was better, apart from having terrible luck. And 2 tenths is still a decent gap. Thats 10 seconds over 50 laps, probably 2 or 3 places. I still think carlos is a world class driver who can win a championship like nico, but people dont realize how good charles is. I dont think lewis is going to come even closd to him.
I disagree with the narrative that he is inconsistent. Aside from the start of 2022, he has been superb, even when leclerc has outperformed him like in the last races of last season, generally it hasn’t been by that much and I view Leclerc as multiple champion in a worthy car.
3:10 and now the next 110 million years being dominated by ONE team
He jinxed it LOL
DAMN IT JOSH - the curse continues!
Carlos is a fast driver for mid-field cars. Charles is a fast driver for front-running cars (Bahrain, Australia and Austria 2022 proves this, as well as the amout of poles Charles' took during that season).
Carlos is not a bad driver, but when he and Charles had the best car on the grid, it was clear who was the best of both. I don't think Charles is washed, but he seems acomodated and it surely is something that bothers.
Let's just hope this video doesn't jinx neither Carlos nor Ferrari
I still think they’re the most balanced team dynamic this season. But you’re right. I think people want Leclerc to activate his dominance. It’s almost as if Sainz waited for Charles, then decided to do it for himself on the way out. Consistency is an issue with Sainz, maybe. But his strategies were more astute than Ferrari themselves.
The Josh Revell curse is actually so real😭
Ideally, out of all the places he could go, I would like to see him replace stroll at aston martin... I know the audi ties are there, especially with his father, but I think the risk outweighs the reward as ultimately it'd still a team run by investors and driven by the money essential just advertisement rather than genuine racing expirence and taking the risks to build/ progress into a top team unlike what strolls father has done with AM the next 2 years once honda has bedded in you watch they will be right up the top .... stroll would suit WEC, so put him over their....
Literally there are only two things that could have happened to justify ferrari kicking him from the team and one of them happened
godammit josh
And he's been jinxed
Loving that Carlos is getting the recognition he so rightly deserves!! Great video!! ❤🏎
Josh nooo you just jinxed this
Fantastic video josh one of you're best sir
I am a Charles fan and Carlos is absolutely solid driver. But after a couple of races, fans have become so reactionary and have forgotten how the last 3 seasons have gone. I do believe that Charles is the stronger driver out of the 2 as he's much more consistent, but I don't see a situation in which Carlos doesn't have a seat next year
exactly. anyone who thinks he won’t get one is kidding themselves
@@WCmexico98 I think the potential scenario is that he gets left out because he's aiming for Red Bull or Mercedes and putting Sauber on the backburner. Maybe Sauber/Audi don't play that game and move on, then he whiffs at RB/Merc and suddenly he doesn't have a seat. I guess there's Williams and Haas though. I think he'd just take a year off in that case.
In the ammount of races they've been sharing team, Leclerc and Sainz have the same number of race wins.
@@flips220 right but if that's the case, that's his decision and not that teams don't want him in general
@@TheProkonover That doesn’t matter, Leclerc is still the faster more consistent driver. He’s beat Carlos in quali and race h2h. Also there have been many races that Leclerc should’ve won but Ferrari was being Ferrari as usual. Lando and Daniel are great examples of this. Daniel won a race in 2021 but that did not make him a better driver during his time at McLaren. Landos consistency and pace was much stronger just like Charles’