While we do not recommend airport travel with the Capsule since airports have their own complex systems, we have never had any reports or experience with compromised security when going through airport security or carry-on luggage. The Capsule tiles cannot be viewed with an X-ray, and even opening it would only allow the first letter to be visible. I suppose the only safe tattoo place would be inside your mouth - enjoy doing a DIY 24-word tattoo there! Here is a tweet showing what the Capsule and Cassette look like under an X-ray: twitter.com/cryptosteel/status/1339550765808017410
@@arb5287 Every Capsule comes with separator tiles which allow for words to be separated from each other. The stainless steel thread that the tiles are attached to can then be fastened with our included steel fasteners. Essentially, the only way to make tiles spill out is if you open the Capsule while upside down, and then remove the secure fastener while still holding it upside down.
Every Capsule comes with a set of strong steel fasteners to lock the tiles into place, so spilling or mixing them up is very hard to do! Additionally, for long-term storage, you can seal or even weld the top shut to prevent any access. twitter.com/cryptosteel/status/1330161567145619465
@@RebellisSpiritus No worries, the included fasteners will keep everything locked in place for as long as you need. And if you want a tamper-evident seal, you can use paint, stickers, nail polish - the options are endless!
@@浪花-n1y the fastener you put when you're done writing your words is what is shown there, they don't all come off the thing and scramble. You can leave enough room to read the words without having to take them out the bolt
I do plan to buy some cassette versions, but I do not understand how this capsule can be useful. One letter at a time when reading the phrase... Why would I prefer this to the cassette? Also, are you proposing it's a good idea to wear this around my neck? Should it not preferably be in the heavy vault with the hardware wallet at all times? And are there really wallets that use anything else than uppercase letters?
In our view, the Capsule is an upgrade of the Cassette due to its added space, secure shell, and wider range of storage options. While reading the seed phrase will be slower, this is also an activity that should be extremely rare. No, we definitely don't recommend it - it was just meant to be an aesthetic way to show the size. Some wallets do use upper and lowercase, and we wanted to be as accommodating to as many types of wallets as possible.
The Capsule is actually extremely simple! No mechanical parts, no electronics, just your recovery phrase! Use the included tiles to spell out your recovery phrase (4 letters each), add a separator between each word, put the steel fastener on, close it and done!
@@cdxn00 to be fair- it cannot get more easy then this... lol its spelling out your password through the metal letters on a metal stick. a child who can spell could do it.
This has never happened to any of us or have we heard reports from customers saying there were issues. Additionally, even with an X-ray or opening and glancing, the Capsule does not reveal any information that could compromise the seed phrase.
A Shamir backup is basically splitting up your backup seed into multiple parts called Shares. If Shares are lost or stolen, your entire backup seed isn't compromised, and your backup seed is still salvageable from the remaining shares. Here is a basic conceptual video: ruclips.net/video/cRh-NCvHkzM/видео.html and here is the math behind Shamir backups explained: ruclips.net/video/K54ildEW9-Q/видео.html
why would portability matter? That type of physical backup would be placed in a safe, in which case you could save some time and money by writing keys on paper and laminating them.
Nice looking thing. I don't think I really need it, I have my paper backups stored in more than 3 different places. I don't think they'll spontaneosly catch fire or get flooded. But I just ordered 5 of these.
1. No customer purchase ID database records to be compromised. 2. Passphrase to protect a compromised backup being restored without a passphrase recommended. 3. Passphrase storage unclear, maybe on the cloud (unlikely to be matched to the metal physical backup), as a passphrase in brain memory fails and is open to a $5 wrench attack.
@@kotgc7987 No, not quite there are many different qualities that go into different bolts. Look up Jameson Lopp’s stress tests of various metal crypto solutions. Not all of them faired very well. You’re really going to bring your seed phrase and engrave it at a public place or do they let you borrow a mechanical press to do this at home? It’s much easier to just use pre-engraved pieces of steel that have been stress tested. Don’t get me wrong though, I think there’s room to improve upon what crypto steel has done here, no doubt, but why bother with an inferior solution? It’s not like most people will ever need to buy more than a couple of these in their lifetime.
The Capsule contains multiple fasteners, which lock the tiles in place after you have put them inside. They cannot move around or fall out unless you manually remove the stainless steel fastener.
@@lancelotdulac94 it would be against the point of the capsule - to be as mechanical as possible. it's made to last hundreds of years, but with things like fingerprint reader, you might find yourself locked out after a few years
We published this short post with diagrams and examples to explain this FAQ: cryptosteel.com/why-four-letter-words-are-the-standard-for-recovery-seed-backup/
We explain it details here: cryptosteel.com/locks-vs-seals-why-the-new-cryptosteel-capsule-doesnt-have-a-locking-mechanism/ and here: ruclips.net/video/X8ZA84WWz3E/видео.html
Cryptosteel Looks good, have you tested this to see how much of the seed can be visible through x-ray with capsule vs cassette? The primary appeal IMO of metal seed back up devices with removable pieces is that one can transport their seed across airport security and such. Just remove the pieces and keep the paper, then reconstruct after you cross.
@@martinlutherkingjr.5582 link to Cryptosteel x-ray images - imgur.com/a/qA57y2F We have no problems to flight across Europe with the capsule. So far I have no info regarding trans-oceanic destinations. twitter.com/cryptosteel/status/1186966198157754371
If you stored a lot of valuable cryptocurrencies in a secure device like the ledger nano x, this device is the access key for your coins. Of someone stole this and uses it, all your coins will be gone.
If Shares are lost or stolen, your entire backup seed isn't compromised, and your backup seed is still salvageable from the remaining shares. Here's a video that explains the math behind Shamir backups: ruclips.net/video/K54ildEW9-Q/видео.html
This only protects against most forms of destruction, not all and certainly doesn't protect against loss or worse theft. Seems much simpler to store multiple copies in an encrypted file on a $2 thumb drive or even use an encrypted drive ($50). Can store multiple lists and other secure data on a single device while being both protected against loss or destruction if you use multiple backups at secure locations (safety deposit box/home safe/wherever). This is pretty and all just not all that practical to me.
Malware, phishing and hacker attacks are a threat to any information stored on a computer or usb device. That's why these types of devices exist. Go listen to John Mcafee speak on people using software wallets on their computers and mobile phones to store crypto, what you are proposing is basically the same thing that is if you can read it on your screen then so can the hackers.
@@MrFooChops sure but not really relevant here. Video is talking about storing the seed backup for a crypto wallet. Storing that on an encrypted file on a USB stored in a safe isn't subject to cyber attacks of any kind. And is cheaper, more convenient and actually secure even if someone gets a hold of it, these metal storage are wildly impractical and expensive considering their obvious shortcomings. If someone can't keep their pc secure enough to safely retrieve the file if needed, they really shouldn't be doing their financial affairs on them.
@@tridave9811 Usb devices connect to a computer to be used don't they. This the point that John McAfee makes. Yes people use computers everyday to make payments where they enter their bank details but thats entirely different because if anything goes wrong the bank will most likely protect you and refund you but when it comes to crypto you are on your own.
@@MrFooChops First, the device in the video is a single purpose device designed to backup a seed key for a crypto wallet. Since it is unencrypted, it provides NO SECURITY if someone gets a hold of it. They can readily clone the crypto wallet and transfer all the assets without it being attached to a computer and just as importantly need no expertise to decrypt the data it stores. It is expensive, difficult to setup or change and still only provides a single point of failure (some forms of destruction), lose it and the data is gone. The alternative would be to use a secure USB drive*, every bit as secure as a crypto wallet (even more than some that use chips with vulnerabilities to physical attacks) to backup the seed key. Easy to copy or modify data it and cheap in comparison to have multiple to store in separate secure locations. This provides multiple failure points without worrying if someone ever finds one since even with the secure USB drive, they do not have access to any of the data unless they can break the security. I'm also able to store multiple crypto wallet seeds as well as any other data I want to keep secure on them make them much more versatile and much easier to use than any physical steel key set. So yes, a USB device does have to be connected to be useful but recovery from the seed is an extremely rare situation so these devices would not need to be connected often. *Even storing encrypted files on a plain USB device off line this way would be more than adequate for the average user. The best part about the encrypted drives is someone can't copy them and leave them behind to work on decrypting the files while the owner has no idea the files have been taken. I'd probably use a regular USP if I were storing hundreds in a crypto wallet anything much more than that would be worth a secure USB to me.
Sd card can be damaged or corrupted. This is 100% physical 100% in your control to lose or damage it and you need no other piece of technology to access the seed
It’s for people who don’t have the means to put together a properly air gapped computer in a secure environment. Also, an SD card is probably not as strong as a couple of steel discs.
damn i'd trust a piece of paper more than an SD card. Flash memory does NOT last forever. What if the card got corrupted? Paper is bad because of the environment, data backup bad because potential to lose data. So the steel is more efficient, Fun fact, stone can last tens of thousands of years out in the open where as metal would rust away very quick, compared. Technically we should all engrave it on stone but obviously not practical for hiding it
Encrypt a few 1$ USB flash drives and store in different locations. Done! You save a ton of money and it's better security everyone in crypto knows what this is if they find it.
Encrypt a few 1$ USB flash drives(sd) and store in different locations. Done! You save a ton of money and it's better security everyone in crypto knows what this is if they find it.
We finally know now what was in those code cylinders on Star Wars uniforms
this is the best comment lol
Anyone ever tried getting one of these suckers through an airport in carry on luggage?
DIY scrotal tattooing is far more secure.
While we do not recommend airport travel with the Capsule since airports have their own complex systems, we have never had any reports or experience with compromised security when going through airport security or carry-on luggage. The Capsule tiles cannot be viewed with an X-ray, and even opening it would only allow the first letter to be visible. I suppose the only safe tattoo place would be inside your mouth - enjoy doing a DIY 24-word tattoo there!
Here is a tweet showing what the Capsule and Cassette look like under an X-ray: twitter.com/cryptosteel/status/1339550765808017410
@@Cryptosteel lol great answer!! 😂On a serious note though thanks for the info.
You don't want to turn yourself into your own security hole.
"sir i need you to spread your cheeks"
make it smaller and I'll implant it in my neck
I’m so confused
I too.
imagine if u drop this and the stopper just coincidentally pops out.
exactly this lol.
The fastener is made of steel and is securely locked in. There isn't really a way for it to dislodge without doing it yourself.
Very dumb Product in such an innovative industry ! At least a fastener nut after every word is needed to make it fool proof..
@@arb5287 Every Capsule comes with separator tiles which allow for words to be separated from each other. The stainless steel thread that the tiles are attached to can then be fastened with our included steel fasteners. Essentially, the only way to make tiles spill out is if you open the Capsule while upside down, and then remove the secure fastener while still holding it upside down.
@@arb5287 its a simple but effective product. how would you design it ?
Cool gadget. I want it even though I don't actually need it.
Did they think the design specially to introduce it somewhere and make it safer and more intimate?
I would rather memorize the words lol
Bet not even the nuke codes are that good safed
Toddler finds this capsule and spills all letters on the floor
loL
Was going to buy, not anymore. 😂
Every Capsule comes with a set of strong steel fasteners to lock the tiles into place, so spilling or mixing them up is very hard to do! Additionally, for long-term storage, you can seal or even weld the top shut to prevent any access. twitter.com/cryptosteel/status/1330161567145619465
@@Cryptosteel i'm not good in welding
@@RebellisSpiritus No worries, the included fasteners will keep everything locked in place for as long as you need. And if you want a tamper-evident seal, you can use paint, stickers, nail polish - the options are endless!
so, when you try to READ this back,
and you drop the thing on the table...
your recovery seed will be there. ruclips.net/video/INx36TFFy28/видео.html
@@Cryptosteel I don't think you understood William webb. He meant you potentially dropped all the keys at once on the table when trying to read.
@@浪花-n1y the fastener you put when you're done writing your words is what is shown there, they don't all come off the thing and scramble. You can leave enough room to read the words without having to take them out the bolt
Does it survive in salt water ???
Stainless steel
This will survive a boating accident.
@@simontvrner lmaoooo
I don't see a ring that will keep the water out of there
I do plan to buy some cassette versions, but I do not understand how this capsule can be useful. One letter at a time when reading the phrase... Why would I prefer this to the cassette? Also, are you proposing it's a good idea to wear this around my neck? Should it not preferably be in the heavy vault with the hardware wallet at all times? And are there really wallets that use anything else than uppercase letters?
In our view, the Capsule is an upgrade of the Cassette due to its added space, secure shell, and wider range of storage options. While reading the seed phrase will be slower, this is also an activity that should be extremely rare. No, we definitely don't recommend it - it was just meant to be an aesthetic way to show the size. Some wallets do use upper and lowercase, and we wanted to be as accommodating to as many types of wallets as possible.
That’s the point, it’s difficult to for someone to peak without you noticing.
Seems complicated
The Capsule is actually extremely simple! No mechanical parts, no electronics, just your recovery phrase! Use the included tiles to spell out your recovery phrase (4 letters each), add a separator between each word, put the steel fastener on, close it and done!
@@Cryptosteel Well, thank you for the explanation. I got more understanding from the two sentences in your reply than that entire video.
@@cdxn00 Understood - we are looking to working on upgrading our videos and explanations in the near future!
@@larsstolz That was rude! Just because I said it seems complicated does not mean I am mentally challenge.
@@cdxn00 to be fair- it cannot get more easy then this... lol its spelling out your password through the metal letters on a metal stick. a child who can spell could do it.
but does it protect from a nuclear explosion though
If your dead, it does not matter
No, but if your wife set your house on fire in a rant, for not selling your doge. It should be safe up to 2500ºF
@@youjpntube What do you mean by that?
If there's a nuclear explosion then I don't think doge is gonna mean anything anymore
@@ruok..... It depends on how large and where the explosion is
I keep my private keys behind the toilet cause ain't nobody ever checking there.
On my way! 🤣
Until your bathroom is flooded.
Wouldn't this be confiscated at an airport or court?
This has never happened to any of us or have we heard reports from customers saying there were issues. Additionally, even with an X-ray or opening and glancing, the Capsule does not reveal any information that could compromise the seed phrase.
the point system is better. there they will only see points
just write it on a piece of paper and put in safe
Is your safe water, fire and completely thief proof??? What about the ink that you used???
@@MrFooChops just carve it into a piece of scrap metal and put in a water, fire and completely thief proof safe.
@@MrFooChops Omg, is the ink vegan though?
@@RapiDEraZeR Good point! Inks are vegan 😎
What is a “shameer backup”
I've heard this on Seinfeld
"Schmear"
A Shamir backup is basically splitting up your backup seed into multiple parts called Shares. If Shares are lost or stolen, your entire backup seed isn't compromised, and your backup seed is still salvageable from the remaining shares. Here is a basic conceptual video: ruclips.net/video/cRh-NCvHkzM/видео.html and here is the math behind Shamir backups explained: ruclips.net/video/K54ildEW9-Q/видео.html
Hilarious 😂
why would portability matter? That type of physical backup would be placed in a safe, in which case you could save some time and money by writing keys on paper and laminating them.
Just extra safe this way. If you have $500k backed up it’s worth spending $100 to make sure fire and flood won’t destroy your codes
Not worth the money
While I understand the reusability, if you drop while decoding of if the links get scrambled its useless.
There's a piece on the end of it which locks all the characters in place to stop that from happening. I think you also get 2 of them in the box
@@MrFooChops get about 5 ill have to recount.
Nice looking thing. I don't think I really need it, I have my paper backups stored in more than 3 different places. I don't think they'll spontaneosly catch fire or get flooded. But I just ordered 5 of these.
A very creative way to safe a code
What is this
The Cryptosteel Capsule is an offline stainless steel backup device that lets you store your wallet recovery phrase for cryptocurrency.
Washer nut bolt diy backup is better
1. No customer purchase ID database records to be compromised.
2. Passphrase to protect a compromised backup being restored without a passphrase recommended.
3. Passphrase storage unclear, maybe on the cloud (unlikely to be matched to the metal physical backup), as a passphrase in brain memory fails and is open to a $5 wrench attack.
You also have to stamp or engrave all the washers and then stress test it. Most of what you’re paying for is piece of mind in a tested solution.
@@martinlutherkingjr.5582 $15 metal stamp kit or free metal engraver from your local police station. Stress test, a bolt's a bolt?
@@kotgc7987 No, not quite there are many different qualities that go into different bolts. Look up Jameson Lopp’s stress tests of various metal crypto solutions. Not all of them faired very well. You’re really going to bring your seed phrase and engrave it at a public place or do they let you borrow a mechanical press to do this at home? It’s much easier to just use pre-engraved pieces of steel that have been stress tested. Don’t get me wrong though, I think there’s room to improve upon what crypto steel has done here, no doubt, but why bother with an inferior solution? It’s not like most people will ever need to buy more than a couple of these in their lifetime.
@@kotgc7987 You forgot not overpriced by 100$
Can the words get mixed up if I drop them out of sequence?
Yes.
The Capsule contains multiple fasteners, which lock the tiles in place after you have put them inside. They cannot move around or fall out unless you manually remove the stainless steel fastener.
should've been a fingerprint reader, voice code, face id, dna blood sample to open capsule
no
@@codifigador.zenior why no ?
@@lancelotdulac94 it would be against the point of the capsule - to be as mechanical as possible. it's made to last hundreds of years, but with things like fingerprint reader, you might find yourself locked out after a few years
@Freedom Forever thats why it has the special design so you can store it inside your body.
Maybe you should buy a safe from Home Depot for $100 that has a finger print reader so you can store your billions safely.
No, thanks, I have a piece of paper and a pen in my desk drawer
Have fun when your house is catching a fire.
@@Mufasa34 oh god save me then, what will I do if I lose my code that I definitely wrote in a single place?
having backups is definitely better than not having backup! But note that the more pieces you store, the more you places you need to protect.
What is the point of only storing 4 letters when some words can be up to 8?
The first 4 letters are unique for each word.
We published this short post with diagrams and examples to explain this FAQ: cryptosteel.com/why-four-letter-words-are-the-standard-for-recovery-seed-backup/
Tamper evident seal capability? How?
Have you tested it to see how much of a seed can be visible when x-rayed or put through airport security?
:)
We explain it details here: cryptosteel.com/locks-vs-seals-why-the-new-cryptosteel-capsule-doesnt-have-a-locking-mechanism/
and here: ruclips.net/video/X8ZA84WWz3E/видео.html
Cryptosteel Looks good, have you tested this to see how much of the seed can be visible through x-ray with capsule vs cassette? The primary appeal IMO of metal seed back up devices with removable pieces is that one can transport their seed across airport security and such. Just remove the pieces and keep the paper, then reconstruct after you cross.
@@martinlutherkingjr.5582 link to Cryptosteel x-ray images - imgur.com/a/qA57y2F
We have no problems to flight across Europe with the capsule. So far I have no info regarding trans-oceanic destinations. twitter.com/cryptosteel/status/1186966198157754371
It's just a capsule... anyone can open it and use it haaha what's the point?
its steel so does not degrade. its fire proof.
@@rv.b2903 fire proof? not really
@@thiarkker2638 In an indoor fire, temperatures range from 800°C to 1100°C, depending on the material burned. Cryptosteel is fireproof up to 1,400°C.
OK, I get it. It's strong and durable.
But what stops you from losing it? 🙄
Personal responsibility?
you keep it in a safe? its a passcode...
If you stored a lot of valuable cryptocurrencies in a secure device like the ledger nano x, this device is the access key for your coins. Of someone stole this and uses it, all your coins will be gone.
@@J276 If you learn about security scaling you will learn how to use multiples to avoid the issue.
@@saccaed Teach me more sensei.
What if you lose it or it’s stolen?
If Shares are lost or stolen, your entire backup seed isn't compromised, and your backup seed is still salvageable from the remaining shares. Here's a video that explains the math behind Shamir backups: ruclips.net/video/K54ildEW9-Q/видео.html
This only protects against most forms of destruction, not all and certainly doesn't protect against loss or worse theft. Seems much simpler to store multiple copies in an encrypted file on a $2 thumb drive or even use an encrypted drive ($50). Can store multiple lists and other secure data on a single device while being both protected against loss or destruction if you use multiple backups at secure locations (safety deposit box/home safe/wherever).
This is pretty and all just not all that practical to me.
Malware, phishing and hacker attacks are a threat to any information stored on a computer or usb device. That's why these types of devices exist. Go listen to John Mcafee speak on people using software wallets on their computers and mobile phones to store crypto, what you are proposing is basically the same thing that is if you can read it on your screen then so can the hackers.
@@MrFooChops sure but not really relevant here. Video is talking about storing the seed backup for a crypto wallet. Storing that on an encrypted file on a USB stored in a safe isn't subject to cyber attacks of any kind. And is cheaper, more convenient and actually secure even if someone gets a hold of it, these metal storage are wildly impractical and expensive considering their obvious shortcomings.
If someone can't keep their pc secure enough to safely retrieve the file if needed, they really shouldn't be doing their financial affairs on them.
@@tridave9811 Usb devices connect to a computer to be used don't they. This the point that John McAfee makes. Yes people use computers everyday to make payments where they enter their bank details but thats entirely different because if anything goes wrong the bank will most likely protect you and refund you but when it comes to crypto you are on your own.
@@MrFooChops
First, the device in the video is a single purpose device designed to backup a seed key for a crypto wallet. Since it is unencrypted, it provides NO SECURITY if someone gets a hold of it. They can readily clone the crypto wallet and transfer all the assets without it being attached to a computer and just as importantly need no expertise to decrypt the data it stores. It is expensive, difficult to setup or change and still only provides a single point of failure (some forms of destruction), lose it and the data is gone.
The alternative would be to use a secure USB drive*, every bit as secure as a crypto wallet (even more than some that use chips with vulnerabilities to physical attacks) to backup the seed key. Easy to copy or modify data it and cheap in comparison to have multiple to store in separate secure locations. This provides multiple failure points without worrying if someone ever finds one since even with the secure USB drive, they do not have access to any of the data unless they can break the security. I'm also able to store multiple crypto wallet seeds as well as any other data I want to keep secure on them make them much more versatile and much easier to use than any physical steel key set.
So yes, a USB device does have to be connected to be useful but recovery from the seed is an extremely rare situation so these devices would not need to be connected often.
*Even storing encrypted files on a plain USB device off line this way would be more than adequate for the average user. The best part about the encrypted drives is someone can't copy them and leave them behind to work on decrypting the files while the owner has no idea the files have been taken. I'd probably use a regular USP if I were storing hundreds in a crypto wallet anything much more than that would be worth a secure USB to me.
@@tridave9811 Great idea. Also, whenever you need to access the data you can connect it to a computer that is 100% offline.
don't quite get why it is more useful than keeping a back up on an encrypted sd card
Sd card can be damaged or corrupted. This is 100% physical 100% in your control to lose or damage it and you need no other piece of technology to access the seed
It won't catch fire 🔥
It’s for people who don’t have the means to put together a properly air gapped computer in a secure environment. Also, an SD card is probably not as strong as a couple of steel discs.
damn i'd trust a piece of paper more than an SD card. Flash memory does NOT last forever. What if the card got corrupted? Paper is bad because of the environment, data backup bad because potential to lose data. So the steel is more efficient,
Fun fact, stone can last tens of thousands of years out in the open where as metal would rust away very quick, compared. Technically we should all engrave it on stone but obviously not practical for hiding it
Encrypt a few 1$ USB flash drives and store in different locations. Done! You save a ton of money and it's better security everyone in crypto knows what this is if they find it.
for the next generation? who care's If I'll be dead, lol
your offspring?
@@igorgorbatschow paper hands
@@marcello.menjivar Sorry, but what does this have to do with Paper Hands?
@John Smith Spoken like an immature childless fool.
Encrypt a few 1$ USB flash drives(sd) and store in different locations. Done! You save a ton of money and it's better security everyone in crypto knows what this is if they find it.
nope
@@AnthonyShuker nope to your nope
@@footage6402 no rebuttal
imagine those usb flash drives under water, fire or physical damage.
there's your answer
You trust a dollar store usb with your entire life's fortune, and expect it to last more than 10 years? I have never seen it.