will it run? barn find vw bug engine 2nd attempt.
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- I picked up this engine along with 4 others and a 1968 bug from an estate sale 2 weeks ago.
I tried to get it running on the back of the truck but it did not want to go. so lets see what was wrong and if it will run now.
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Just picked up a 1970 T2 hightop.
Was sitting for 20 years.
Ive been binge watching your videos.
Great info. Super helpful.
Thank you
I'll tell you this, I have a whole new respect for the amount of abuse a starter can take. Haha NO FEAR!!!! 😎 Awesome video Mustie. Thanks for sharing. 👍👍
phuck ewe That and OEM starters can singlehandedly send an entire truck out of it's grave. Junkyard Digs did this with an old F250 that sat for nearly 30 years and got it to run.
Amazing little engines, the ride into the garage , reminded me of days when I run a 66 vw with a gas heater , Canadian winters they were brutal . Still an amazing auto today .
The concept for the era , was an car for all the German citizens. Cheap and fairly reliable . I run one for 6 months , parked on a hill of gravel , to get her started Togo home from work at the refinery in Ontario.
Back in the late 70's or early 80's, I lucked into a great deal on a perfectly straight mid-60's bug convertible that had not run in many years. I cleaned the points and carburetor and got it started and it "RAN ON ONE CYLINDER". I knew there had to be "little or no" compression on the other three cylinders, so I simply popped the spring clamps off the valve covers with my handy Snap-On gasket-scraper/pry-bar and freed the stuck valves with the same tool and then it was two, then three, then four. As each cylinder came back on line it would sputter and blow a cloud of rust colored smoke out the exhaust, but from that point forward it ran great.
This is an excellent primer/refresher for us old guys who have not played with a VW engine for a while.
Really enjoy the way you explain what your thinking is as you're diagnosing what's going on. Extremely valuable to hear that type of information
thanks for watchin ron
I had a job for a short time, converting VW engines to Airplane engines, we modded them a lot. We replaced the heads with special ones we milled, installed chevy lifters, electronic ignition (that we built), each cylinder had dual spark plugs. We installed total seal piston rings, and installed a super charger. Horse power went from 40 to 75.
The company used to be called Home Built Aircraft Products International. HAPI engines. They may still be in business.
I remember seeing ads for those airplane kits in Popular Science back in the day.
you do pre flight checks before you take off and im sure the engines are checked often for common issues.
M773
Most aircraft piston engines are wet sump. Quite a few are carbureted as well. For aircraft use, a carburetor heat box would have to be utilized.
M773
For a VW engine to be used in an aircraft, it will most likely not be an aerobatic aircraft since the power output is less than 100HP.
Again, MOST piston aircraft flying today use horizontally opposed engines with wet sumps. I’m talking about Lycoming O-320, O-360, O-540 and their IO counterparts as well as the Continental IO-360, 520 and 550 variants are all wet sump engines.
Pitch attitudes in normal, non aerobatic flight do not come close to unporting the oil pickup.
Almost doubling the hp - to 75!
That is a decent running engine. I also learned how to check the oil pressure in my bug, I have not hooked up any electrical so I don't have a dash light, but that is an easy way to get an idea of oil pressure. Thanks for that tip! Later -Ed
I grew up on a farm and my dad came from the field one afternoon pretty shaken up. He was turning potato ridges up with an old 1960's tractor mounted potato digger. I knew the equipment and the drive shaft from the tractor to the machine had no cover on it so the rusty iron shaft spun unprotected - in your face - when you were working to clear the blade of potato tops. This day my dad got off the tractor to clear potato tops away from the soil blade and left the shaft spinning. Holding onto the machine he reached down to clear the blade but his white cotton shirt sleaves, that were hanging and flapping about got gripped by the rusty shaft. He held himself back for dear life as he was pulled into the spinning shaft. The shaft stripped the shirt of his back within seconds. What I saw that day in the kitchen was a man who stood bare backed, as white as the missing cotton shirt. My dad repaired the shaft cover and always retold that story with a haughty laugh of how he fought not to be pulled into the machinery and was spun around like a doll and stripped topless in seconds. People who heard this farmer's tale laughed, some didn't and just stared on for a few seconds, mulling. Take care guys. You are safe until you are not and that can change in a second. You might not be so lucky as my dad to laugh about it later.
Very nice.
Double check the valves afterwards. The valves might seat better after a few starts.
Also a mix of 50/50 ashless fully synthetic 2stroke and gas may also loosen up the rings.
Always worked for me.
Good tip!
A real treat watching you coax that engine back into life, thanks. The 1300 has a very good vibe about it.
just learned more than I knew about a vw motor, thanks buddy!
I started watching because my daughters wants a Bug and know NOTHING about them. Now after the super bug underbody repairs and the barn find engine stand run. I am starting to understand why bug people love them so much. They are FUN!!!!!
Great video. Always exciting to coax an engine to life. It's a thrill to hear it struggle and live.
You can take a rag and put some gas on it. Cover the throttle body or carb and the engine will draw air and fuel from the rag and run for a long time like that. It's a great way to check if a fuel pump is working..... great video
Larry Popham great way to cook the engine on a backfire!
I was swaying to the beat when you were cranking that fire spitting dragon. New dance craze-- The Mustie shuffle!
wup wup,,
That was a nice little tutorial about how to check out a Bug motor...things I did not know.
excellent mod engine candidate.....my dad was a vw mechanic and ex-SCCA racer/mechanic/owner/crew chief,etc, he di an engine for his at the time girlfriends 1958 vw with Chevy rear wheels. The engine was a 1915 cc moter with flycut heads for a bit more compression, 3 way valve job, 2 duel weber carbs had great pull,and if cruising at 70, got 30 mpg.
Please get an old jacket and cut the sleeves off below your elbows so you do not lose an arm. You have nice arms, you might want to consider keeping them. We admire your determination with getting these things Runnings. Love seeing and come to life.
Mustie , this is excellent advice from MMR45660 . Have a buddy
That had a thumb ripped off in a split seconded . Everyone take
Not . No one loses appendages on purpose.
Engines just "ought to know" that "resistance is futile" when Mustie1 brings you home to His garage :) Nice job!!
I am indeed :)
Whenever he puts up a "Will it run?" video I immediately say to myself "yes it will".
I think the same as well:) He truly has a "gift" :)
Resistance to Mustie is futile!
Love it! My Dad was the local VW man in our area. I learned to drive in his '56 narrow window Beetle. Old VWs will always have a spot in my heart.
Reminds me of working on snowmobile engines. I would do a little dance whenever I got a 50 year old snowmobile engine running again. The smell of old fossilzed oil and gas....priceless!
love your videos Mustie, I like working on old engines and brings them back to life just like you do, but the problem is here in the UK VW's and their parts are expensive.
getting expensive here too unless its made in china junk
It was a joy again to watch you working. - If I had a beetle with a problem, I would call you, not the VW service.
Nuthin' sweeter than that starter rollin' the bug over....when it's just about there, I was rootin' for it !! Oh Boy, this video takes me back to my youth....I could almost smell that smoke !! The sound.....Thanks...
I knew your latest VW barn find meant a series of great videos were coming. I'm enjoying every one of them so far!
Love this channel how in depth you go to basically teach someone how to fix it all and diagnose whats wrong
thanks chase
I was nervous at 19 minutes with your loose sleeve cuff near the running belt pulleys. I was always taught to have close cuffs or velcro there to avoid the arm being dragged into a pulley.
My uncle lost a finger after getting it crushed in gears
You are 100% right about the placement of the oil cooler, not only does it restrict air flow,the cooling fan sucks in HOT air off that useless add on. A VW engine with all the correct cooling tins and a good thermostat dosen't need an external oil cooler.
Perfect escape room for Mustie1. The door has a mechanical lock that can only be open by a rusty old VW engine. He has some of what he needs but the rest he must improvise.
I thought this one was going to be one of those no go engines, but ....once more Mustie has done his magic. Thanks for taking us along and showing us just how it is done, well done. Keep em coming we love em all.
I'm impressed. I can't believe that you got that old engine to run. In the beginning I didn't think that it would. Great job 👍 Mustie.
I love vw myself. I ran dual coolers on my 2180cc. one in the shroud and one external. also oil filter setup with synthetic oil.
A little tidbit from my college VW wrenching days...if you have the original Bosch style plug wires, always tuck the air boot UNDER the tin rather than leaving it outside. That way the cooling air will force it to seal against the tin rather than blowing it off.
Love how you enjoy your toys .... proper man toys. Would love to have a shop to mess with this kind of things.
You CONSISTENTLY, DAILY make my days and nights with your videos. They’re what I wake up to and fall asleep to, and what I have learned the MOST from out of EVERYTHING I’ve studied. I sure wish I could talk to you some day! Thanks so much for what you do! 😊😊😊
thanks for watchin steve
Watching this video shows me of how badly worn my 1600 dual port engine in my 71 Super Beetle really was. The oil pressure light flickerd at stoplights, leaked all over the place and compression was about 75 in each cylinder. Mustie's engine would have been a major upgrade for my tired old S. Beetle.
When my dad pasted away I got 5 crates with brand new VW engines he got from his home town Hoxie, AR. The farmers use these engines to pump water from one rice field to another. Well I'm sitting on 5 brand new 1600cc VW engines now for 10 years still in crates with no use other then installing one new engine in a Karmann Ghia I also inherited when he passed and I still have that lol
IT'S ALIVE. Music to a VW fans ears right there. She runs a tiny bit rough but at least she's alive. This VW stash you picked up was an amazing score. I'm not gonna lie, im just a tad bit jealous. Lol.
Great diagnostics and troubleshooting. You know your trade. Thanks for posting.
OK That was fun. My first car was a 1964 1200cc??? Bug maybe less it was 46 years ago for me. 54 for the car.
I'd think it would be a reliable power plant..Another good score.
You have a lot of skill there Mustie, others would have quit long ago on that motor
Please Mustie, be careful with the sleeves we love your content we want to have it going for years to come! Also a little bit of fogging oil through the spark plug holes would be a good idea before any cranking. I almost could hear metal sliding against dry metal on that one 😁
After the evidence of overheating (like you said, picked it up fast from those plug wire boots) didn't have much hope for that engine, but you brought it back, and it turned out to not be as bad as it seemed. Great work as usual .
Starting to fall for that little blue Bug, the only thing that would have made that cold start better if the radio suddenly popped on blaring surfer tunes,lol.
Nice assessment on the motor ! Man that beetle was a great find!
Seems like a potential motor for a baja bug donor rolling chassis. Nice job Mustie
This engine moves around on the "test" stand even more than my diesel engine does. lol
Air cooling is so important for these engines. The best flow comes from higher RPMS. Ironically the most heat comes from low rpm loads. Lots of people don't understand that you can't lug these engines and expect them to survive. When working an air cooled engine you must keep the rpms up. I know mustie knows this. Just tossing it out there for any new VW air cooled engine aficionados. My point is to make sure you guys educate your significant others that will drive one of these or they will blow up your engine. Ask me how I know. :)
Let me guess, you blew an engine
@@rexjolles ...YA THINK SO?!!
Looks Like a Good Engine Still!
Gaskets / Seals and she will be good to install!
lots of burned crud came out of the left exhaust manifold at 17.03 on the initial start up.....liked the video mustie1 👍
How about a bonus cold start! LOL I just love it . thanks mustie
Missing my '69 bug big-time watching this. Such a fun ride for me. I'm ashamed that I dogged it so bad, but it kept moving through mud and dust, wherever I aimed it. Sorry, buddy, wherever you are...
Looking at the video you can see #4 puking all kinds of junk out the exhaust. Good result!
I had a feeling that 40psi cylinder would clear itself out!
Pretty common to see those old engines have the rings partially seize from sitting for so long. I buy and sell cars, and I've seen vehicles turn over on just fuel and they sound like the timing chain/belt has broken because you can hear the lack of compression on one or two cylinders, and we have to drown them in starting fluid to get the to fire off, but once they fire off (because of the way combustion seals rings), they clear right out and run perfect.
The worst one I've personally seen like this was a 305 Chevrolet, sat for somewhere around 20 years. Showed
Oh the sweet taste of a successful engine start, I have been there, got the ball cap and t-shirt, Congratulations you are the "engine whisperer"
This reminds me of working on a trike with my brother 25 years ago. We usta start the engine on the floor and trip out the lady's :) ... it got me to second base twice... lol , same girl tho.
In Mexico you can found this engine with fuel injection in models from 1996 to 2003. In mexico VW produce that vehicule until 2003 with the special edition last one. My bro has one 1995 model.
Good video, enjoyable it was. Must say I have worked on gunked up carbs like that, a bit of patience and most clean right up.
yeah these are pretty simple
The sparkplugs are all the same, it's the cap/boot that's different. That small pip on the end of the plug unscrews to make it just like the others! Great work 😀
true, with bosch but not others
I thought they were all like that. You may well be correct. Thanks.
l found out the hard way, ordered a set not bosch and they would not unthread, think it was ngk but not sure,
I just finished working thru the carby dramas on my 2 stroke scooter the other day,. And I walk out to it this morning and there is a puddle of anti freeze underneath it. So either it has a blown head gasket (it actually has two rubber ring seals, one in the middle, one on the outside to seal the water jacket) or something went awry when it was put on (the head) . I'm hoping for it to be option B. Replacement parts aren't expensive, it's just the 2 week wait for them to come from Europe or China that stops you in your tracks that bugs me
Good vid, I think I was more interested to whether you were gonna get your jacket sleeve caught in the "generator " pulley than if you got it running?? Everybody likes a wreck,,,, sorry,,,, but glad to see it run and you still got all of your arm.
Use to use the external oil coolers on my 914's with the cooler mounted in the front dam it cooled the motor extremely well needed it in California.
yes but did you remove the factory one and stick it in front of the fan that is supposed to cool the engine,
really enjoyed your video. I learned a lot about assessing an engine from watching you. Excellent!
Brings back memories of working on my first cars engine, 40 years ago. They were so simple then 😊
There's a new dance craze sweeping the nation !! At 13:16 called "The Mustie Shuffle !
A helpful hint to anyone (including Mustie himself!) before doing anything to an engine that has not run for a considerable amount of time is to put a little engine oil down each plug hole. One of the functions of oil is to create an air seal in the ring area and hence aid in compression. By doing this you will maximise compression. It can only help. And if you turn the engine over a bit by hand after doing this it will also help to prevent scuffing of the rings and bore with the constant turning over on the starter.
i like the radio in the beetle... great score on the vw stuff Darrin.
i wish i could find vw scores like that in my area!
Like the vids. But an old vw will always run. Unless it's locked up in the jugs! Sometimes it may have the bearings locked. But not that often! These air cooled engines is nothing but a four cylinder Briggs engine. But you can take the time and build one of these and it will out run a motorcycle from red light to red light!!! Seen it many times!
You are a wizard....always amazed when you get a found engine up and running.
I'm not a VW guy but I really enjoyed watching this video and learned a little something about these old VW flat 4's in the process :)
I betcha that when a starter motor sees you coming, it runs the other direction. Screaming. LOL!
a little bit of work and that looks like a nice reliable runner
Would you mind doing a video sometime of your Roadrunner? Maybe a start up? Have been hoping you'd do a video of it sometime. Thanks!
Not a better way to start my Wednesday morning a cup of coffee and a mustie video!
Mustie, I lapped up the jugs to the heads last night. Worked great. However, i have another question. On my heads (h0 1500cc engine) stamped 107 and 157 I believe. Does this mean they are different heads? Or right or left? I could look all this up I know, but like your feedback, and take that as pretty much gospel. Thanks.
not sure , id think the 3/4 side was probibly replaced at some point, as thats the one that overheats faster
I've never had a VW. They are amazingly simple. I work on dirt bikes and they a similar in many ways.
Congratulations on another VW engine brought back to life by the infamous Mustie1! Once back in a vehicle it will be bringing enjoyment to yet another owner! Thanks Mustie! I wish I could afford that clean bug you acquired!
l see many miles in its future
Ugg, the more I watch your VW videos the more and more I want one LOL.
all part of my master plan to go into the vw buisness
low compression the problem
Hey Mustie, Always enjoy seeing you doing battle with the engines etc. I admire your persistence, patience, and ingenuity! Please keep'em coming and ignore any negative trolls. Some people just like to spread their nastiness.
Didn't know the VW Bug engine was such a nice compact setup like that. No wonder they were popular with the kit car crowd in the '70s.
You might consider keeping a good carb and distributor around to use on these barn engines for testing. Maybe a fuel pump also.
Excellent video...thanks for posting
I I accidently had the CC on during the video and when the motor started it said [music]. Haha. Yes RUclips, it certainly is.
Lol
The jug on 4 puffed smoke at block maybe re torque them heads maybe?
This takes me way back. As I recall, when you have a really low compression on #3, the first culprit to check is a burnt exhaust valve, because of the location of the oil cooler under the shroud. One of the first mods was to install an external oil cooler like the one on this engine.
Thank you always a pleasure watching your video
Brilliant repair 😃😎 thanks mustie 😉
Heck yeah that's why I watch I like to see this stuff most people would say "low compression needs rebuilt" nope it's all good just been sitting gotta love good old motors
Hi Mustie, big fan from the U.K, thanks for all your videos!
I have a question for you if you wouldn’t mind... when you set up your 34 PICT 3 carbs, what are your go-to bypass screw and volume control screws adjustments for just getting an engine going?
The majority of answers I have read seem to say 2 and 1/2 turns on each screw out to get started?
Cheers! Jim
Can't complain about that! A little tinkering by the VW Master and it's back in business. Cheers! Zip~
If you look closely you can see burning iron-oxide particles coming out of the exhaust port. Also Darin can you Shim the crankshaft to reduce the end play? My Satoh 650SG Bison tractor has this ability and I did not know if Volkswagen boxer engines had the same capability.
when you 1st build them you shim them but if that gap grows later then that thrust bearing is on its way out,
You sure get yr pennies worth outa those starters . Great tips , Demo an know how . Worth a see for gear head VW fans . Thanx
Smart man.... Ultrasonic Cleaner with Omega Clean will make ANY Carb come out like new.... It even cleans stuck injectors..
The Mustie shuffle! LOL
Say Mustie, what is the normal compression of a 10hp Briggs. Got a new old snowblower in need a tune up, carb kit, belts etc. Don't want to put money in it if worn out... Thanks !
some have a built in decompression valve so its hard to say, without one it should be around 100 psi,
40 to 110 is f**king brilliant!
Bought the last set of Irwin's that my tool man had, twenty years ago. Used wooden handled ones, for almost forty years. You bet-cha!
Maddening, but oh so satisfying when she finally starts!
Enjoyed hangin’ out with you.
thanks
I was a little concerned about the engine but you bring it back to life Mustie1. A Another good quality video from you as always. 😊
Great video Mustie!
thanks