Grant Hill On The Insane Pressure Of Being "The Next Michael Jordan"
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Our guest this week is NBA legend and Hall-Of-Famer Grant Hill. We're really excited to share this awesome convo. In today's teaser, we talk to him about the wild pressures of being labeled "The Next Michael Jordan."
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This conversation went about 90 mins. It's so rich and so good. Full thing drops tomorrow morning. Thanks for watching and don't forget to subscribe.
JJ and Tommy. Thank you for these rich interviews!!!!
JJ, you're fantastic in this new role you've chosen. Keep up the great work. And, as a Georgetown grad, that's not easy to admit. Especially considering Grant Hill was, nearly, a Georgetown lock until the staff effed up the recruitment and insulted his intelligence.
Grant Hill's barber, belongs in the hall of fame.
That guy has NEVER been too busy or too far away for the kid 🥇💐
Real talk I thought the same thing, lol. That fade was on point
😂 facts like jaylen rose
He needs to cut all the nba players . I close my guys when some of these guys get camera close ups. 🤣🤣
@@mastercrossoverreturns rose uses that spray though lol
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Grant hill is one of the biggest what ifs in nba history. But despite the injury adversity he went through he still carved out a hall of fame career. Keep up the great work JJ and Tommy! Best b-ball podcast out there. 👌🏽🏀
Hate when ppl talk about grant like he got hurt at 23 and he was some type of once in a lifetime talent. Paul George is more of a what if than grant
@@JustAguy25548 grant legit got hurt during his prime.
@@JustAguy25548 you sir dont know what you're talking about AT ALL
Grant hill and penny hardaway
@@jasonnesbittt if Zach lavine gets hurt next year are we going to call him one of the biggest what ifs ever ? No because we pretty much already know wat he is rn . Grant was 28 and didn’t have tht much playoff success … didn’t have tht many big moments in the league . A good player and an all star but come on it’s not even close to a 23 yr old drose getting hurt . Let’s say god forbid Zion never gets his hurt right …. Zion at 20 was 27 ppg and looked almost unguarable . Again paul George was going head to head with a Miami prime and was in his early 20s …. Breaks his leg and loses a lot of athleticism BUT comes back and is still an all star type of player we forgot tht he broke his leg . Sam Bowie … Len bias .. the list goes on… even pennyyyy
Let’s be honest even with injuries Grant Hill still has high status to people who watch and play basketball. Make no mistake about it folks this man is one of the best to ever touch a basketball an absolute legend!!
He was LeBron before LeBron was LeBron
It’s because he came in with so much hype and lived up to it all. He was already top tier when he got hurt so people got to see it and it’s not a “what if”
He wasnt that guy and there wasnt a viod… penny hardaway was in line before injuries
@@MountainMassOutDoors Hill was better than Penny.
@@MountainMassOutDoors I agree penny was cold but grant was already better and still had better upside
Him and Penny were insane back then. People forget how good they were.
To think we never saw either of them reach their potential is a shame.
Facts 💯
yea I always rated him above kobe. Much smarter and way more team oriented. equally athletic if not more. Penny is up there with Hill too pre injured. Compared to the some of the latest so-called superstars like Tatum....I mean what a joke NBA is right now you wonder how it gets to this.
@@blipblipbruh grant hill was not that good. He was as good as a prime derozan. Nice but not better than Kobe. Not even close
I love Hill's comment about wanting to pass because I've said numerous times, we always want the next Jordan but too often fans and sports media have a hard time understanding is that's players are wired differently with different athletic ability and different skill sets. LeBron, Grant Hill, Bird, these guys had similar games in that yes they can score but they also have to pass, they're just wired that way. They can have stretches where they score a lot but they can only do it for so long because they're just wired to pass and score, they have to do both. Jordan was unique in that he was exceptionally athletic, had a scorer's mindset, and had the skill set to be a great scorer so combine that with his work ethic and it was a perfect storm with Kobe being similar, fact is you wouldn't want Kobe or Jordan to be focused on distributing because it takes away from what comes naturally. Magic, Nash, Chris Paul, Stockton, Kidd, those guys are passers and just wired to pass, it's their first instinct and what they want to do, they could all score to some extent but they just aren't wired to be scorers and that's what people have to understand, players have certain wiring, we can want them all to have scorer's mentalities but in the end these guys have certain games and that's what makes them great, too many people get caught up with the next Jordan and it's time to let that go.
Outstanding breakdown
You missed one part: MJ did whatever the team asked him. Collins put him at PG because the team was struggling early in the 88-89 season, and he averaged a 30ppg triple double for that stretch. When they went to triple post, they basically told him "hey, we are going to take the ball from your hands and your overall numbers will suffer", and he did that. Bird could play without the ball but James? No way in hell. He's terrible without the ball in his hands at all times, which doesn't always helps his teammates.
And about MJ doing what is needed: against Magic it was double digit assists for the Finals. Then they said Clyde is a better shooter, so he shot way more threes against Portland. Then the Suns were too high scoring for the Bulls (which might have been true if Ceballos and KJ were both healthy, KJ did his best while limited), and he averaged 40+ in the Finals.
MJ could adapt to so many different styles. He could dominate the ball or move without it. Still the most unique player I have ever seen play.
@@lp3860 I didn't miss anything. Jordan wasn't a point guard, they did that out of necessity and their record was okay but it's not like the Bulls took off. Doesn't change my point, Jordan wasn't a point guard, you didn't get the best version of Jordan having him focusing on distribution and to maximize his greatness Phil Jackson understood the best version of Jordan was where he focused on scoring. Just because someone can do something doesn't mean that's the best use of them, especially when it takes away from what they are truly elite at.
@@lp3860 Yeah, MJ averaged over 11 assists in his 1st NBA Finals and was actually leading over Magic until the last game when Magic had 20 to his 10. He did whatever he needed to or wanted to.
It's crazy looking back on just how thirsty the league was for the next MJ. It's like a good 20 year stretch where if you were 6'6" and could jump out the gym, you were basically look upon to be the next MJ.
I was a freshmen at Duke during Grant’s senior season, 1993-94.
A lot of great memories from that 1993-94 season including:
- Meeting, hugging and getting the autograph of Jada Pinkett as she was dating Grant at the time and attended the game where his jersey was retired.
- Bill Cosby also attended the Temple (Eddie Jones, Aaron McKie, Rick Brunson) game that season. Bill walked across center court about 3 minutes before tip-off. Cameron crazies were cheering…..***Jello Pudding Jello Pudding Jello Pudding*** It was crazy.
- I got to see Tim Duncan (Wake Forest) in person for the 1st time as he was a freshmen at Wake Forest that season. Randolph Childress was their go-to-man that season
- Also attended the UNC game (Jerry Stackhouse & Rasheed Wallace were freshmen). They swept us both games
- Charlie Ward- His Heisman season where he played game 1 of that football season at Duke. FSU crushed us. Also got to see him and Bobby Sura when FSU came to Cameron.
Maryland- Joe Smith was a freshmen
We lost in the 1994 NCAA Finals that year to Arkansas.
Wow!!! Just wow!
I love Grant, he's well spoken, not brash and very thoughtful . Can't wait for this episode
Get Mike breen on the podcast
Grant Hill is mentally probably the strongest dude from the last 20 years in the NBA. To he able to come back after that horror injury and still be able to play for 12 years and have a decent career, is probably a bigger achievement than if he would have stayed healthy.
He shot so many deep 2-pointers!
What a moron! Get the extra point shaking smh
ok and?
Grant Hill really couldn't shoot. He was a slashing Elite Rim Finisher. His Free Throw Rate was extremely high. Didn't have 3pt shot, couldn't shoot from outside the restricted (4FT) to 17FT from the basket. People to revise history, with long 2s, but G. Hill was not a very good shooter.
@@blacknetsmed bro, the league was different then 3s didn’t matter as much as today
@@JoseHernandez-dq1cz He couldn't shoot midrange either, Grant Hill shot 37% from 10FT to 18FT from the basket.
Love him. My first favorite player ever. Before Jordan, before Kobe, before anyone else... there was G-Hill for me.
That trim clean af
Grant Hill was an absolute monster! He was so skilled! Even after the injuries he was extremely productive! I root for Grant Hill!
Been a Pistons fan since the Bad Boys time. Long before the internet this dude was definitely "the next Jordan". More like a Jordan/Magic hybrid. A triple double machine when there was still defense. Sky high basketball IQ. Incredible athleticism. That injury was tragic. In brought the Pistons Ben Wallace and Hill found some success later but it's sad that he didn't achieve his potential.
So Lebron James?
When you uttered the sentence "when there was still defense" you automatically invalidated your opinion. I'm sure your head is hurting watching modern basketball and just rant about the past whenever you can.
@@ednis32 That's not a sentence. I didn't utter anything. And my opinion was about Grant Hill - not modern basketball. Take a reading comprehension class my dude. 😀
I loved him in Phoenix. A lot.
The one thing I will always take away from the Jordan comparisons is how Kobe and later LeBron completely embraced those comparisons.
There will never ever be another Michael Jordan, but it takes a special someone to accept that challenge while also carving out a path that is unique to that player.
Grant was his own person and great in his own right.
Grant Hill was a basketball God to me before he got hurt. That first play where Dumars threw that alley pop way up there n Hill got it, it was on from there
Can't wait for the full pod tomorrow. This was so amazing. Grant is my 2nd favorite Duke player behind JJ. One of the biggest what ifs ever if he staued healthy.
I got it the other way around, because I was a teen when Hill came in and basketball was life. We used to watch his tape everyday
For this nigga to still have a perfectly intact hairline at his age and with all he’s endured is marvelous to say the least.
Grant Hill drinks Sprite where the kid tries to dunk and falls over is my favorite commercial from that era :)
that was my first Slam! " just like mike..only better" now somebody else might get a rap about it but G Hill, was so good and carried his instant stardom with such class that you rooted for him
Thx for this one jj. Grant Hill legit the reason I got back into bball. Year 2000, freshman in high school
The Duke Blue Devil everyone has always liked.
When people say the next Jordan, people raise eyebrows, but with Grant Hill, people back in the day believed it could happen. He was the real deal.
Those grant hill filas were fire
When I first started watching the nba grant hill was my favourite player and the reason I support the pistons to this day. Loved watching him
out of all the bits Ive seen that 3 minute one opened the door the most.
Stephen A and Grant Hill back to back legit af.
I'm hyped for this convo but yall gotta make sure the cameras are level man, drives me nuts. Will listen to the podcast
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought this
Nerds going crazy over nothing.
Grant Hill was better in the pros than in college. Same skill set as Pippen, but better offensively. Because of the injuries he won't be on the NBA top 50 or 75 all time, but easily could have been.
Facts 💯
Best NBA interviewer only made since to be FROM the NBA... JJ a beast!
Grant Hill’s barber is awesome!
"just like Mike. Only better" was a very unreasonable expectation to put on the young man
Agreed. He really was Lebron before Lebron
I've always held Grant Hill on high regard during his Pistons tenure. His Fila signature shoes were always a head-turner, even though I had a pair of Stackhouses.
The STACKHOUSES 😂😂😂 What a blast from the past!! Lol definitely wanted a pair of the G Hill Fila's back in the day although I had the Penny's
This podcast should be supremely interesting, Grant is highly intelligent and eloquent.
Grant Hill is a legend. Period.
Grant Hill became his own person. Bron stayed chasing 23 and mjs managed his whole career in the process.
Saw Grant Hill at his inauguration into the HOF. Dude is solid.
This is one of the best podcasts yall have ever made.
Loved Grant Hill the moment he joined the league. Still have a few of his rookie cards to
I envy my hs mates wearung those GH filas! One of my all time favs!
His freshman year at Duke the resemblance was so similar they called him Fresh Prince ...for some reason the nickname didn't stick
These kids disrespecting Grant Hill smh. If he wasn't injured he had potential to be a top player in the league consistently
Grant hill was a beast! He still had a good career after the injury.
Grant Hill drinks Sprite 🤣 i still remember those ads and still quote it everytime i drink Sprite 🤦♂️🤣
Those Grant Hill Pistons jerseys sold out fast, shortened career with injuries, but he is a Legend.
I still remember that game Hill and Stackhouse went at MJ and Pip. Gave them the bizness. Grant Hill is from VA, always followed his career.
Watched those highlights recently. Man hill broke pippens ankles
@@JonathanWaterbury I remember that lol, crucial.
I don’t know why, but Grant Hill for some reason always reminded me of Will Smith. Like he is the same entity that also plays the role of Will Smith. You know what I’m sayin’?
Hill was well on his way to being a top 10 legend! Hated him at Duke, loved him in the pros. Beast!
lmao. no he wasn't.
@@Ratchetface Hill never fully reached his prime imo. Who knows what he could have done with T Mac.
Hopefully now people understand the pressure LeBron was on, and subsequently guys like Wiggins and Zion.
He speaks so clearly, the auto generated captions are perfect
I got a skybox grant hill pistons rookie card that has NEVER left it’s container, and it never will 😂
Grant is one of my all time favorites because he was team player first and scorer second. If not for the injuries he would be in the top 5-8 players in history.
Grant was one of my favorite growing up.Sucked to see him get hurt in Orlando and was never the same after that.But man he put Alonzo mourning on some posters.
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You seen when he talked about all the surgeries and how he almost lost his foot?!
i always rocked the Hill Jersey in Queens, such a class act.
2 VIRGINIA boys
GRANT HILL and JJ REDDICK
VA!!!!!!! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
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For all of the talk insinuating that MJ wasn't much of a passer, he still averaged nearly 6 assists per game from the time he entered the league until he retired after the 92-93 season. Imagine his AST numbers if were more of a primary ball handler and "play initiator" like Pippen or Hill.
He was a primary ball handler hes a scorer he still got top 5 highest usage rate of all time
It bothered me too...the time and money I wasted collecting as many of Grant's rookie cards as I could. Nevertheless Grant is the epitome of class, teamwork and professionalism.
Great Hill with the Daytona sheesh
If you think that bothered grant, imagine doing that to lebron since he was in high school
He was never, even on his best day, greater than Michael.
Of course not, no 1 before or since mj23 is made from same cloth...kobe alittle
Well, no one is really!
Imagine the pressure Lebron was going through at 18
Born in 1984 and growing up in Ann Arbor I hated Grant Hill when he was on Duke and then loved him when he joined the Pistons. I wish he never got injured but I'm glad we he decided to go to Orlando; that sign and trade got the Pistons Ben Wallace!
JJ I need you to get mics that hold themselves! Fix this aesthetic otherwise love the pod
Grant Hill Fila #1 were my first sneakers I bought. Great shors
My favorite basket basketball player ever!!!
This may sound stupid but I feel bad for Tommy when people talk like only JJ is there 1:00 ( use to happen)
There are things that we don't want to happen but have to accept, things we don't want to know but have to learn, and people we can't live without but have to let go. Keep moving…🙏🏽
Grant was DIFFERENT.. IYKYK
Imagine how LeBron feels 👀
They not ready for that 😂
You can't say no one's better than Jordan or anything when it comes to basketball that's how good Michael Jordan was
Grant Hill wasn’t really a what if, we saw it for 7 seasons. It was good, but he wasn’t surrounded by anyone. The only what if is just how far him and TMac would’ve gotten
@2:19 kyrie and kd shaking from the media attention.
I hate Duke, but have the ultimate respect for Hill. Had he not got hurt Grant Hill was next up. To me still greatest Duke player.
🚀Grant Hill summary: NBA = National Business Association 🚀
The Pistons really need to retire his jersey. Grant was an amazing player in Detroit.
Grant was one of my favorite players until he left Detroit. He seemed like a loyal guy who would stay with the Pistons his whole career, but he dipped and crushed a lot of fans.
I bought my first pair of basketball shoes because of Grant Hill
Plz tell me you asked him about Cade and the grits question from the all star weekend
Grant was smooth
RJ needs his own show
Very good guy genuinely :)
Hill, tmac, and penny biggest what ifs 😢
Who is grant hill’s barber
Lebron,Grant Hill and Pippen best point forward ever
Grant hill and LeBron are the same mold. Like magic
Young grant was so cool
Bro broke under the pressure of ‘what if’
Oh my god. Yes. "Grant Hill drinks Sprite?". "GH4 by Fila, change the game". For 6 years especially his last season in Detroit, imagine if LeBron played in the 90's when the game allowed some hand-checking and zone defense was illegal... that was Grant Hill.
There will never be another Mike Kobe came up short or LeBron James came up short no one has has even got close to Michael Jordan standard
Grant had the most devastating fundamental cross-over.
Any guard that was excelling when MJ left was always going to be anointed “the next MJ”. MJ was so influential that the league was scrambling to find someone to replace him. Not that these players were not any good, but the league needed to keep itself relevant. Thus pushing that narrative. That’s why when Kobe arrived he was always compared to MJ and he damn near came close.
My favorite player of all time, Grant Hill. About time he joined the podcast! 😁
To bad grant just made a better podcast with all the smoke 🤷🏽♀️
Anybody who is truly great at anything is not the next anybody. Michael Jordan was once called the next Dr. J, but that ended quickly.
Grant hill is the best player that got injured 💔
We(fans & media) never let Grant Hill be Grant Hill. Only “Michael Jordan”. Same with Luka to Lebron now 😕
Should be top 75
No one anywhere, at anytime, in any universe, ever thought Grant Hill would be close to reaching Michael Jordans level. Like, what are even talking about lol
It was very much a thing. Multiple different articles wrote about it when he was coming out of duke. Not to mention St.Johns or St.Joes coach (can’t remember which one) basically deemed him as the next MJ or DR J.
Not to mention he was drafted at the exact same spot (pick 3) exactly 10 years after Jordan was drafted which even further pushed the narrative lol.
I wonder who knows more about Grant Hill's life. You or Grant Hill?
Stop embarrassing yourself he was always talked about as the next Jordan so much so that it bothered him
Jordan said Hill and Penny were the next to likely take up his mantle. I watched that interview live.
Absolute horseshit. Hill in his healthy prime was amazing. Well on his way to greatness but the injury curse stopped that. There’s a reason he is one of the great what if’s. Still one hell of a highlight reel.
Why do people always ask Who's the next Jordan? Why can't they let players be themselves?