I know this video was a while back and you probably learned some stuff since your last camp out. When I first started out buckskinning in the late 70s I had a 12 by 16 canvas tarp. With that tarp I could make a tripod stand with the longest back part of the tripod being the 12 ft. With the tarp being rectangle you can take the back two pieces of the rectangle which is the 16-foot part and wrap underneath the tent to make a three-quarter floor. The other two rectangles fold together in the front to make a door or you can stake them out word to make a Wind Block all with one piece of tarp. I also used the same tarp to put shelter over me when using my canvas hammock. 12 by 16 is very versatile. I didn't have any grommets on this tarp just Muzzleloader balls tied with cordage with loops on the end.
Thanks for showing how to actually learn this stuff. I've been doing this for years and trial and error seems to be the best way to figure it out. You said your feet were cold, bringing a pair of loose wool socks (only used for sleeping) makes a huge difference. Also, nothing wrong with wrapping a couple hot rocks in canvas and putting them by your feet.
Thanks for the feedback. I love to learn by doing… The rocks here explode, so if it’s doable I’m kinda nervous to do it. I did have some heavy wool socks on, it was actually my legs and feet both. I really think the cold from the ground was going right through my bed. I may sleep out again tonight to see if it’s better with more padding.
@@OverOnTheWildSide I suppose an exploding rock could cause some issues. Although an eye patch always ups your street cred. You can get the same warmth from a hot water bottle wrapped in a sock or cloth. It also makes sure your water isn't frozen in the morning. Good luck if you head out tonight!
@Over On The Wild Side Yep. Not enough ground insulation. Whatever you can pretty much get your hands on out there to put into a pile minimum 6 inches compressed would have helped you out immensely...especially in those kind of Temps. Most folks fail from not enough ground insulation in my experiences.
This was epic, Richard! This is the kind of stuff people need to see (not that they don't need watch everything you come up with). I can't tell you how much I enjoyed it and I just want to say thanks for sharing it with us.
Impressive experiment. Pushing yourself to figure out how to get comfortable outside in very cold temps. Love your process of ideas, testing and practice. Inspiring!
"Having a system is much better than no system" so true. Practice close to home is also great advice. We did the same as kids and do the same with our kids. Takes a while for them to work out what they need to bring and what set up works for them. Doing all that with a safety net let's you experiment more :-).
Ah; tears and snot tells a familiar story. The only thing missing is mosquitoes! I sympathize. The thing about reading what some else has done i.e. Nessmuk is we weren't there. How comfortable was he really? Man wrote a book, put in it what he wanted and made himself famous and some money in the process. There's a big trade off between being comfortable and the amount of work needed to make yourself so and just roughing it with a minimum of effort and gear. There's no magic bullet!
Keep it up your doing good. About 45 years ago I camped over night in a Cheyenne tipi when it was 40 below in Michigan but I had modern sleeping bags. Love what your doing. 👍
I really appreciate your honesty about the mistakes you make along the way. Most people just try to show off how skilled they are. It suits you well to admit your failures and lets all of us participate in the process of learning.
Now that's primitive camping. Just not a whole lot of firewood out there in that area. I do envy you those point blankets. Thank you for the video. Be well and at peace.
Again another awesome video/lesson,the Era of the mountain man,although tales show how experts they were which is not true,most learned on the fly or flew by the seat of their pants learning as they went,respect your concern for your animals,funny my Aussie Shepherd Nos,I use to feel the same,till on a cold hike 1 day he's swimming in the creek,still worry but mainly just keep an eye on him,safe travels friend
Thank you, and yes it’s hard to really know if they’re cold or not. I was concerned about my black dog that night but when we got back to the cabin she didn’t even go inside, she laid down outside so I guess she was fine. I find that amazing at 12 degrees F.
I like the sheepskins with wool to keep you warm during your camping. I remember you were saying that you got cold though. There are two solutions for helping you staying warm. First, make a civil war gum blanket that would consist of using small paint rollers with a 1 gallon can of rubber. The cost of this should be under $100.00 dollars. The benefit is that it would keep the moisture away from your sheepskins and your wool blankets. In my opinion this would keep you warmer and you could use this gum blanket year round. The other option you could buy a cowboy bedroll even though it is heavy and bulky. You could strap this bedroll to your horse for easier handling for transport. Finally, it would be hard pressed for one to get cold with this bedroll, your sheepskins, and wool blankets. I hope this info helps you out. Please keep making these wonderful videos!
I appreciate the input. I did put down a waterproof tarp under me in the most recent video and then used my thick wool fry pads instead of the sheepskins. I think the ground was just too cold and I needed more insulation. A cowboy bedroll is effective however there’s no historical record of them being used until the 1880’s. Maybe late 70’s. This historical stuff can be restrictive at times but I’ll figure it out. I’m thinking next I’ll use dead foliage to lift me off the ground and I’ll wrap my second tarp around me. I want to see if that makes much of a difference.
@@OverOnTheWildSide Keeping the moisture down and getting off of the ground should help. I do have an additional comment that might help you. You can make a tick bed with a cotton sheet that has one opening at the end. You could fill this with straw or use two maybe three wool blankets in it. For instance, put sage brush down first, then put the tarp down, and then put your tick bed down. Finally, I enjoy many of your videos especially the cowboy camping videos. It will be interesting to see what you will do next.
@@brianwilson5241 thanks for the input. A tick bed would definitely be an advantage and it’s a cool historical item. I think it’s more than I want to carry. I like the tarps because they can pull double duty. I’m really close to being comfortable- 10 degrees warmer and in a place where I can gather more foliage and I think I’ll be fine.
I’m gonna take nesmuk’s advice tonight and postpone my camping out for tomorrow. I set up my camp early in the day, and the wind shifted before dark. My options are to reset my camp and look for more firewood in the dark, or wait till tomorrow.
Is Maximus a Maremma? I worked on a Cattle Station in NE Australia for 6+ years and we had Maremmas as herd dogs with the goats. I loved them. Great dogs.
@@OverOnTheWildSide I see. Yeaj basically the same dog from a different part of the Alps I believe and yeah AMAZING dogs. Cheers mate. Thanks for the excellent content.
The best tent is a primitive cowboy teepee for rough camping in bad weather but it doesn't have a stove access but use a modern old time gas heater from Coleman's
There’s too many variables to say one is the best. For instance where I am, I’d have a really bad time trying to find poles to do any sort of tipi. And that’s just one example.
Thank you, and yeah quite a guy. When I made these videos I had no idea how well known he was haha! Pretty cool how well recognized and appreciated he is.
Just imagined if a Frontier back in the days sits at a camp and says: Well boy, i dont know, wind and smoke…i go home cya guys!😅 thanks for posting the fail it too. Its shows that you should test your equip and yourself in any weather condition. It must have been realy tough to scout and survive in a brand new world.
excellent reality based video! man ive spent so many nights like that in sub 0 weather. just cold no matter what till i figured it out. i know you said the rocks are potentially explosive but try heating up a couple fist sized stones to the point of being too hot to touch but wont burn your blankets and put them in the blankets near your feet. keep a rotation of hot rocks going so after a couple hours (or less) when the rock cools off and the fire needs feeding you wake up and refresh the fire and switch stones. the more insulation between you and the ground the better. keep it up man. good to see you outthere figuring things out and being humble about it. take care
Thanks man, I appreciate it. I might give that a try. My firewood here doesn’t burn long at all so I don’t even try to keep it going… I definitely needed more padding though. I overestimated those sheep skins.
@@OverOnTheWildSide right. ive never tried camping in your environment. im sure it would be a heck of a learning curve for me to figure out what to do without a forest around me to just chopp or grab whatever i need. different methods are necessary for sure. i can build a long log fire and sleep around 2 hours typically with out needing to wake up and adjust or feed it to keep warm with just 1 blanket and a foot thik pile of balsam fir bows to lay on in sub 0 temps. otherwise it takes several hot rocks placed here and there in a pile of blankets to make it through the night. ol nesmuk would be proud either way if we just didn't make a mess of our cookware or melt the handles off.
The beard is coming in nicely brother! Try building a wall with logs or rocks behind the fire. I don't understand or know the physics of it but smoke follows up that surface instead of swirling around. It will also reflect the heat toward your tent. The shape of your tent setup is similar to the Whelen style setup and maximizes space while still permitting heat but your unique "tipi" fire is a cool improvement IMO!
Thank you sir! And I would really like to try the log idea, I have to wait until I get up to the woods as I have very limited wood available here. I’ll be looking forward to seeing how that works though. I’d like to try stacking rocks higher for heat reflection.
That was some mighty lonesome harp playing, partner. Subbed. I feel like one of those Ellis cowboy bedrolls would serve you well with this setup here. That with the hudsons bay and you should be golden.
Bedrolls are great, that’s for sure. The problem with my using them is, they don’t show up until late 1880’s. Since I’m reenacting 1860’s I’m disqualified from using them. That Ellis one is pretty cool though. Thanks for subbing.
For smokeless fire, arrange rocks is "U" shape to allow oxygen to flow in and biggest rock at base of U. Most people do a circle with rocks and fire doesn't get enough oxygen and produces smoke that goes everywhere. Also, don't dig a pit because that mimics the stone circle. The key is, you want oxygen to get to base of fire.
It’s the heat to air balance that needs to be managed. For instance, a hot wood stove can be shut down so that little oxygen gets in yet it still burns. The smoke problem is 1. When the fire isn’t hot enough 2. Moved by the wind. So if a person is careful he can add enough little sticks to get it burning good and hot and gradually add larger sticks. Some smoke is inevitable so being perpendicular to the wind is best as it takes it away rather than creating cyclones that bring it back into your face and tent.
What state are in ? And what is the size of your canvas tarp? Are you using one or two ? Really enjoy your video and thanks for keeping your camping simple / traditional for that era. Be safe and enjoy! Reaching out from the East Texas swamps....
I’m up in Washington State, on the eastern side. My tarps are 7x8. At first I set up just one and then I went out and set up my second tarp opposite the first.
Hello, I know that I am late to the party; however, I have been watching your videos for a while now. As industrious as you are, I would think you would like the Whelen Lean to. Since you like to make your own gear, Col Whelen made sure everyone had access to his design. I have two of them and I think they are great. One is a small one from Frost River that I use the most The other is from Beckel Canvas. They made it to my specifications. Both are great quality. Thanks for the videos,
I actually have an idea to make sides for my tarp. So I can set up a lean to with one tarp, then attach triangle sides. That way I can still use the tarp for packing but have a way to make it wind proof.
Liked the video! Remember experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted. Ha ha! Keep up the good work and you'll find what works best for you. ATB Sam Adler from Vietnam
Roughing it smoothly....brrrrr! I was on a forest firefighting crew once and we got stuck out on a mountain one night. We had a big campfire. I saw a guy creep up and grab a warm rock and take it back to his sleeping bag, so I did the same.
If You stand a chance of staying anything like warn ish You're going to have to enclose Your tent & use a tent heater ( not to mention getting off the ground as much as possible ) !!!!
These videos were exercises in cold temps and wind. I stayed warm enough to survive. A heater wasn’t necessary, I stayed in my tipi in these temps quite a bit too and didn’t keep a fire going overnight. I often had the door open too.
Here in Washington they’ve outlawed it on certain lands. I forget which ones but I’ve also learned it’s not as bad as I thought at first. Someone I know has a collapsible rocket stove that I’ll probably order.
If you're worried about the small ones. The obvious thing to do would have put them under the blanket with you. Use them as hot water bottles and the blanket kept holding the heat and keep you all warm. if they don't want to be under the blanket. Then they're obviously not that cold. It's all in your head cuz if they were cold they would stay where it's warm. If you are warm you wouldn't want to be warmer. You'd want to be where it's cooler
Man, that's some tough condition. I've seen people take 2 halves of a military pup tent and 2 Polish army lavvu halves that make a tipi, they combine the 2 shelters. You have the halves of the tipi at each end, one pup tent half for the back and the other can be cinched down for a complete enclosure or opened as an awning. I've yet to try that with mine. I really like canvas, it's heavy yet very durable as you know.i have 2 Soviet plash palatkas I prefer over the US GI halves.
@@OKBushcraft I thought about making a smaller version of one but I think the one I’m making will take less poles and will be more usable for packing tarps. But a 8’ x 4’ Baker that’s only 2’ high in the back and 3 1/2 in front would be pretty nice. I guess if I’m camping in the mountains where there’s lots of trees it may not be a problem. Maybe I’ll try it.
@@OKBushcraft my goal is to go out for a month and be at 60 pounds with food, gear and dog food. At this point I plan to do it purely historical except for camera gear and saddle pads.
@@OverOnTheWildSide I haven't seem the more recent videos where you do indeed use the tart tent configuration. That one and the plow point are my favorite. However if I'm just shielding my self from the rain I use a shed type of roof.
It’s because they say there’s a disease domesticated goats carry that kills wild goats. After I said that I also found out it’s not all public land, so it’s not as prohibitive as I was thinking.
Camping with goat illegal...!?! I just love politicians. Sticking their nose in everything Nice rig. If you use the "half-"lean to and have problems with smoke, try to situate it a little square in the wind. Not quite into the wind which for sure get you backdraft. Thx for yet an other inspirational vid
Agreed, it would definitely do the trick. The issue I have is that Bedros didn’t show up in the American frontier until 1880s or so. I do 1860s so I’m bound to what they had.
New to the channel and did subscribe. As a avid bedroll kit user and teacher I have concerns. Your over use or rather multiple wool blankets and applications seem to be a struggle for you. When packing your kit make use of the space in your pot and kettle to pack dry goods or other pieces of kit. Try using your surroundings more, set up near some of the wash out walls you have all around. More efficient fire burning will help you tremendously. The temperatures you do outings in isn’t extreme some simple changes like mentioned will go a long way. Best regards Dutch
How are the wool blankets a struggle for me? These are extreme temps for me, I’m developing cold tolerance. Which is also why I camped out in the open, it was a practice in camping in cold and wind.
@@OverOnTheWildSide 3 wool Blankets seem excessive, layers and air flow is what keeps us warm. Yes having a wool layer is very important but having other layers are just as important. Like you I spend lots of time on my own property building semi permanent camps is fun and very practical, having a elevated debris bed makes a world of difference. I would also look into the super shelter developed by Mors Kochsnski
I see, I was experimenting. I wanted to know how wool blankets function and how they work as a bed. I believe I had 8 layers of wool underneath me. That’s pretty significant and could eliminate a need for leaves. Which are hard to come by in my area.
@@OverOnTheWildSide in cold weather you have to have air flow under you, the super shelter is a great place to learn that. Again I enjoy the channel keep up the good work.
Now I get what you’re saying, that Super Shelter is genius! I think some of the concepts can be utilized without doing the entire shelter. For instance some brush in between blankets to create air space. I look forward to getting back to some experimenting. Thanks for sharing that.
There’s a disease that domestic goats carry and can pass on to wild goats. Apparently it’s only particular lands that goats aren’t allowed now so I may be able to camp with them if I want to.
@@OverOnTheWildSide good luck with your adventures. Its wonderful to see someone wanting to experience the " old ways " of getting by and surving. Great to see some passion. Good luck and you've gain a sub.🙊🙉🙈🙏
your honesty will make this a great channel in time. thank you
Agreed
I know this video was a while back and you probably learned some stuff since your last camp out. When I first started out buckskinning in the late 70s I had a 12 by 16 canvas tarp. With that tarp I could make a tripod stand with the longest back part of the tripod being the 12 ft. With the tarp being rectangle you can take the back two pieces of the rectangle which is the 16-foot part and wrap underneath the tent to make a three-quarter floor. The other two rectangles fold together in the front to make a door or you can stake them out word to make a Wind Block all with one piece of tarp. I also used the same tarp to put shelter over me when using my canvas hammock. 12 by 16 is very versatile. I didn't have any grommets on this tarp just Muzzleloader balls tied with cordage with loops on the end.
Very cool, yes that size would definitely have some advantages.
Thanks for showing how to actually learn this stuff. I've been doing this for years and trial and error seems to be the best way to figure it out. You said your feet were cold, bringing a pair of loose wool socks (only used for sleeping) makes a huge difference. Also, nothing wrong with wrapping a couple hot rocks in canvas and putting them by your feet.
Thanks for the feedback. I love to learn by doing…
The rocks here explode, so if it’s doable I’m kinda nervous to do it. I did have some heavy wool socks on, it was actually my legs and feet both. I really think the cold from the ground was going right through my bed. I may sleep out again tonight to see if it’s better with more padding.
@@OverOnTheWildSide I suppose an exploding rock could cause some issues. Although an eye patch always ups your street cred. You can get the same warmth from a hot water bottle wrapped in a sock or cloth. It also makes sure your water isn't frozen in the morning. Good luck if you head out tonight!
Good point, other items could be heated…
@Over On The Wild Side Yep. Not enough ground insulation. Whatever you can pretty much get your hands on out there to put into a pile minimum 6 inches compressed would have helped you out immensely...especially in those kind of Temps.
Most folks fail from not enough ground insulation in my experiences.
We love watching the process! Never give up and thanks again for the great video! Much love to you and all of yours!
Thank you, much love in return
This was epic, Richard! This is the kind of stuff people need to see (not that they don't need watch everything you come up with). I can't tell you how much I enjoyed it and I just want to say thanks for sharing it with us.
Thanks! I appreciate hearing that. If you camp outside this weekend I’ll be looking forward to hearing how it goes.
@@OverOnTheWildSide that's the plan, but you know what happens when Man plans... Actually filming the preparation today. Stay tuned.
I certainly do
Impressive experiment. Pushing yourself to figure out how to get comfortable outside in very cold temps. Love your process of ideas, testing and practice. Inspiring!
Thank you
"Having a system is much better than no system" so true.
Practice close to home is also great advice. We did the same as kids and do the same with our kids. Takes a while for them to work out what they need to bring and what set up works for them. Doing all that with a safety net let's you experiment more :-).
Thanks for saying so, yes I think it makes a lot of sense. Especially if someone is tied down and can’t get away anyway.
Ah; tears and snot tells a familiar story. The only thing missing is mosquitoes! I sympathize. The thing about reading what some else has done i.e. Nessmuk is we weren't there. How comfortable was he really? Man wrote a book, put in it what he wanted and made himself famous and some money in the process. There's a big trade off between being comfortable and the amount of work needed to make yourself so and just roughing it with a minimum of effort and gear. There's no magic bullet!
Keep it up your doing good. About 45 years ago I camped over night in a Cheyenne tipi when it was 40 below in Michigan but I had modern sleeping bags. Love what your doing. 👍
Wow! I’ve never even been in temps that cold.
You and your video inspired me to think about many things. Beautiful, simple, things about camping.
❤️
Makes me happy to hear.
I really appreciate your honesty about the mistakes you make along the way. Most people just try to show off how skilled they are. It suits you well to admit your failures and lets all of us participate in the process of learning.
Thank you. I’m glad to hear that kind of feedback.
Now that's primitive camping. Just not a whole lot of firewood out there in that area. I do envy you those point blankets.
Thank you for the video. Be well and at peace.
Thank you, I think I’ll feel like I’ve found a land of plenty once I finally get up to camping in the mountains.
Great video and good practice for future trips. Thanks for sharing your adventures, keep up the great work!
Thank you!
Again another awesome video/lesson,the Era of the mountain man,although tales show how experts they were which is not true,most learned on the fly or flew by the seat of their pants learning as they went,respect your concern for your animals,funny my Aussie Shepherd Nos,I use to feel the same,till on a cold hike 1 day he's swimming in the creek,still worry but mainly just keep an eye on him,safe travels friend
Thank you, and yes it’s hard to really know if they’re cold or not. I was concerned about my black dog that night but when we got back to the cabin she didn’t even go inside, she laid down outside so I guess she was fine. I find that amazing at 12 degrees F.
I like the sheepskins with wool to keep you warm during your camping. I remember you were saying that you got cold though. There are two solutions for helping you staying warm. First, make a civil war gum blanket that would consist of using small paint rollers with a 1 gallon can of rubber. The cost of this should be under $100.00 dollars. The benefit is that it would keep the moisture away from your sheepskins and your wool blankets. In my opinion this would keep you warmer and you could use this gum blanket year round.
The other option you could buy a cowboy bedroll even though it is heavy and bulky. You could strap this bedroll to your horse for easier handling for transport. Finally, it would be hard pressed for one to get cold with this bedroll, your sheepskins, and wool blankets. I hope this info helps you out. Please keep making these wonderful videos!
I appreciate the input. I did put down a waterproof tarp under me in the most recent video and then used my thick wool fry pads instead of the sheepskins. I think the ground was just too cold and I needed more insulation.
A cowboy bedroll is effective however there’s no historical record of them being used until the 1880’s. Maybe late 70’s. This historical stuff can be restrictive at times but I’ll figure it out.
I’m thinking next I’ll use dead foliage to lift me off the ground and I’ll wrap my second tarp around me. I want to see if that makes much of a difference.
@@OverOnTheWildSide Keeping the moisture down and getting off of the ground should help. I do have an additional comment that might help you. You can make a tick bed with a cotton sheet that has one opening at the end. You could fill this with straw or use two maybe three wool blankets in it. For instance, put sage brush down first, then put the tarp down, and then put your tick bed down. Finally, I enjoy many of your videos especially the cowboy camping videos. It will be interesting to see what you will do next.
@@brianwilson5241 thanks for the input. A tick bed would definitely be an advantage and it’s a cool historical item. I think it’s more than I want to carry. I like the tarps because they can pull double duty.
I’m really close to being comfortable- 10 degrees warmer and in a place where I can gather more foliage and I think I’ll be fine.
Yes indeed, very well done. Thank you cowboy
Awesome video! Love the honesty. It’s all about trial & error. Good Job!!
Thank you
I’m gonna take nesmuk’s advice tonight and postpone my camping out for tomorrow. I set up my camp early in the day, and the wind shifted before dark. My options are to reset my camp and look for more firewood in the dark, or wait till tomorrow.
Good idea
Is Maximus a Maremma? I worked on a Cattle Station in NE Australia for 6+ years and we had Maremmas as herd dogs with the goats. I loved them. Great dogs.
They’re incredible dogs. He’s a great Pyr though, pretty much the same from what I know.
@@OverOnTheWildSide I see. Yeaj basically the same dog from a different part of the Alps I believe and yeah AMAZING dogs. Cheers mate. Thanks for the excellent content.
The best tent is a primitive cowboy teepee for rough camping in bad weather but it doesn't have a stove access but use a modern old time gas heater from Coleman's
There’s too many variables to say one is the best. For instance where I am, I’d have a really bad time trying to find poles to do any sort of tipi. And that’s just one example.
ah i spoke to you on reddit and then this gets reccomended to me. So awesome to see the footage.
Cool! Thanks for saying so.
This is an great video and Nessmuk is a fun read. He wrote very well and is easy to understand.
Thank you, and yeah quite a guy. When I made these videos I had no idea how well known he was haha! Pretty cool how well recognized and appreciated he is.
Just imagined if a Frontier back in the days sits at a camp and says: Well boy, i dont know, wind and smoke…i go home cya guys!😅 thanks for posting the fail it too. Its shows that you should test your equip and yourself in any weather condition. It must have been realy tough to scout and survive in a brand new world.
Yes for sure, we live in a great time where we can experiment and learn without the risk.
excellent reality based video! man ive spent so many nights like that in sub 0 weather. just cold no matter what till i figured it out. i know you said the rocks are potentially explosive but try heating up a couple fist sized stones to the point of being too hot to touch but wont burn your blankets and put them in the blankets near your feet. keep a rotation of hot rocks going so after a couple hours (or less) when the rock cools off and the fire needs feeding you wake up and refresh the fire and switch stones. the more insulation between you and the ground the better. keep it up man. good to see you outthere figuring things out and being humble about it. take care
Thanks man, I appreciate it. I might give that a try. My firewood here doesn’t burn long at all so I don’t even try to keep it going… I definitely needed more padding though. I overestimated those sheep skins.
@@OverOnTheWildSide right. ive never tried camping in your environment. im sure it would be a heck of a learning curve for me to figure out what to do without a forest around me to just chopp or grab whatever i need. different methods are necessary for sure. i can build a long log fire and sleep around 2 hours typically with out needing to wake up and adjust or feed it to keep warm with just 1 blanket and a foot thik pile of balsam fir bows to lay on in sub 0 temps. otherwise it takes several hot rocks placed here and there in a pile of blankets to make it through the night. ol nesmuk would be proud either way if we just didn't make a mess of our cookware or melt the handles off.
Yeah that sounds really nice!
The beard is coming in nicely brother! Try building a wall with logs or rocks behind the fire. I don't understand or know the physics of it but smoke follows up that surface instead of swirling around. It will also reflect the heat toward your tent. The shape of your tent setup is similar to the Whelen style setup and maximizes space while still permitting heat but your unique "tipi" fire is a cool improvement IMO!
Thank you sir! And I would really like to try the log idea, I have to wait until I get up to the woods as I have very limited wood available here. I’ll be looking forward to seeing how that works though.
I’d like to try stacking rocks higher for heat reflection.
That was some mighty lonesome harp playing, partner. Subbed. I feel like one of those Ellis cowboy bedrolls would serve you well with this setup here. That with the hudsons bay and you should be golden.
Bedrolls are great, that’s for sure. The problem with my using them is, they don’t show up until late 1880’s. Since I’m reenacting 1860’s I’m disqualified from using them. That Ellis one is pretty cool though.
Thanks for subbing.
@@OverOnTheWildSide Durn. Only 20 years! That’s good to know when they were historically implemented. I did not know that. 😊
Yeah there’s other things like roasted coffee and matches, that’d make things easier.
For smokeless fire, arrange rocks is "U" shape to allow oxygen to flow in and biggest rock at base of U. Most people do a circle with rocks and fire doesn't get enough oxygen and produces smoke that goes everywhere. Also, don't dig a pit because that mimics the stone circle. The key is, you want oxygen to get to base of fire.
It’s the heat to air balance that needs to be managed. For instance, a hot wood stove can be shut down so that little oxygen gets in yet it still burns.
The smoke problem is 1. When the fire isn’t hot enough 2. Moved by the wind.
So if a person is careful he can add enough little sticks to get it burning good and hot and gradually add larger sticks.
Some smoke is inevitable so being perpendicular to the wind is best as it takes it away rather than creating cyclones that bring it back into your face and tent.
Great video, thanks 👍
Nice set up and testing it out you never know how it is till you get out there in the wild.
Absolutely
where is this at? love your videos!
I’m in Washington State. The dry side, not the Seattle side.
@@OverOnTheWildSide East part of the state I suppose. I'm doing a road trip up that way in the spring, from Chicago
What state are in ? And what is the size of your canvas tarp? Are you using one or two ? Really enjoy your video and thanks for keeping your camping simple / traditional for that era. Be safe and enjoy!
Reaching out from the East Texas swamps....
I’m up in Washington State, on the eastern side. My tarps are 7x8. At first I set up just one and then I went out and set up my second tarp opposite the first.
Hello, I know that I am late to the party; however, I have been watching your videos for a while now. As industrious as you are, I would think you would like the Whelen Lean to. Since you like to make your own gear, Col Whelen made sure everyone had access to his design. I have two of them and I think they are great. One is a small one from Frost River that I use the most The other is from Beckel Canvas. They made it to my specifications. Both are great quality. Thanks for the videos,
I actually have an idea to make sides for my tarp. So I can set up a lean to with one tarp, then attach triangle sides. That way I can still use the tarp for packing but have a way to make it wind proof.
Have you seen my wearable mini tipi with instant pole system?
I haven’t.
I’m looking for it in your videos.
Liked the video! Remember experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted. Ha ha! Keep up the good work and you'll find what works best for you. ATB Sam Adler from Vietnam
Thanks I got a lot from those experiences last winter.
Plus a cowboy tarp with your blankets inside it
Then I’d have to carry an additional tarp…
Looking for recommendations on tent and stove to pack on sawbuck with panniers
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Roughing it smoothly....brrrrr! I was on a forest firefighting crew once and we got stuck out on a mountain one night. We had a big campfire. I saw a guy creep up and grab a warm rock and take it back to his sleeping bag, so I did the same.
I keep hearing that’s a good way to go, I gotta just give it a try. I sure wish I had last night!
@@OverOnTheWildSide except you mentioned your rocks might explode. That would be bad!
That’s what’s kept me from trying it so far.
Another great video. Thanks'
Thank you
Looks cold .. good stuff great video ... I wonder why do we like to do stuff like this?? Oh and pretty good beard lol
I was wondering that very thing around 1am!
Haha thanks. The beard is going away once it warms up for good.
If You stand a chance of staying anything like warn ish You're going to have to enclose Your tent & use a tent heater ( not to mention getting off the ground as much as possible ) !!!!
These videos were exercises in cold temps and wind. I stayed warm enough to survive. A heater wasn’t necessary, I stayed in my tipi in these temps quite a bit too and didn’t keep a fire going overnight. I often had the door open too.
15 degrees. What scale do you use? Kelvin, Celsius, Fahrenheit?
It’s in the title.
Invest in titanium stove for go the purist approach? Why did you say its illegal to camp with your goats?!
Here in Washington they’ve outlawed it on certain lands. I forget which ones but I’ve also learned it’s not as bad as I thought at first.
Someone I know has a collapsible rocket stove that I’ll probably order.
I'm trying to figure out who your voice reminds me of and I'm pretty sure it's Jamie Hyneman from Mythbusters.
Ha! I haven’t heard him enough to recall.
If you're worried about the small ones. The obvious thing to do would have put them under the blanket with you. Use them as hot water bottles and the blanket kept holding the heat and keep you all warm.
if they don't want to be under the blanket. Then they're obviously not that cold. It's all in your head cuz if they were cold they would stay where it's warm. If you are warm you wouldn't want to be warmer. You'd want to be where it's cooler
You don’t know my dogs.
Man, that's some tough condition.
I've seen people take 2 halves of a military pup tent and 2 Polish army lavvu halves that make a tipi, they combine the 2 shelters. You have the halves of the tipi at each end, one pup tent half for the back and the other can be cinched down for a complete enclosure or opened as an awning. I've yet to try that with mine. I really like canvas, it's heavy yet very durable as you know.i have 2 Soviet plash palatkas I prefer over the US GI halves.
I’d love to see how they’ve done it, I’d like to make mine more streamlined. It sounds like there’s is. Do you know if they had a fire in the middle?
@@OverOnTheWildSide if the one half is flapped up, yes.
How light and old west are you going?.
What about a bakers style tent?
@@OKBushcraft I thought about making a smaller version of one but I think the one I’m making will take less poles and will be more usable for packing tarps. But a 8’ x 4’ Baker that’s only 2’ high in the back and 3 1/2 in front would be pretty nice. I guess if I’m camping in the mountains where there’s lots of trees it may not be a problem. Maybe I’ll try it.
@@OKBushcraft my goal is to go out for a month and be at 60 pounds with food, gear and dog food. At this point I plan to do it purely historical except for camera gear and saddle pads.
Just come across your channel. New sub.
Thank you, I’m glad to hear it.
have you tried setting up a tarp tent set up?
What do you mean? That’s what I always use…
@@OverOnTheWildSide I haven't seem the more recent videos where you do indeed use the tart tent configuration. That one and the plow point are my favorite. However if I'm just shielding my self from the rain I use a shed type of roof.
@@joseuribe430 cool to hear that you use them. My favorite is when I don’t even need to set it up and can just cowboy camp.
Illegal to go camping with your goat?? Is it cuz they graze around the area?
It’s because they say there’s a disease domesticated goats carry that kills wild goats.
After I said that I also found out it’s not all public land, so it’s not as prohibitive as I was thinking.
Beautiful dog, I think he thinks yr talking to him and he's pretending to understand you.
Yeah I suspect you’re right haha! I love my dogs very much, the Great Pyr has a new home though, it’s a better home.
Camping with goat illegal...!?! I just love politicians. Sticking their nose in everything
Nice rig. If you use the "half-"lean to and have problems with smoke, try to situate it a little square in the wind. Not quite into the wind which for sure get you backdraft.
Thx for yet an other inspirational vid
Thanks for the input, and yes, politics are ridiculous.
After this one I did angle my camp to the wind and it made a huge improvement.
@@OverOnTheWildSide Just saw the vid where you describe it. Seems you are living what you like. Very inspirational.
Yes life is good, thanks for saying so.
Bed Rolls would have worked fine. I use them all the time.
Agreed, it would definitely do the trick. The issue I have is that Bedros didn’t show up in the American frontier until 1880s or so. I do 1860s so I’m bound to what they had.
@@OverOnTheWildSide Oh, okay I see. But still a "Great" video. Keep them coming.
Thank you, and even so those kinds of suggestions are welcome. Other viewers may benefit from it.
New to the channel and did subscribe. As a avid bedroll kit user and teacher I have concerns. Your over use or rather multiple wool blankets and applications seem to be a struggle for you. When packing your kit make use of the space in your pot and kettle to pack dry goods or other pieces of kit. Try using your surroundings more, set up near some of the wash out walls you have all around. More efficient fire burning will help you tremendously. The temperatures you do outings in isn’t extreme some simple changes like mentioned will go a long way. Best regards Dutch
How are the wool blankets a struggle for me?
These are extreme temps for me, I’m developing cold tolerance. Which is also why I camped out in the open, it was a practice in camping in cold and wind.
@@OverOnTheWildSide 3 wool
Blankets seem excessive, layers and air flow is what keeps us warm. Yes having a wool layer is very important but having other layers are just as important. Like you I spend lots of time on my own property building semi permanent camps is fun and very practical, having a elevated debris bed makes a world of difference. I would also look into the super shelter developed by Mors Kochsnski
I see, I was experimenting. I wanted to know how wool blankets function and how they work as a bed. I believe I had 8 layers of wool underneath me. That’s pretty significant and could eliminate a need for leaves. Which are hard to come by in my area.
@@OverOnTheWildSide in cold weather you have to have air flow under you, the super shelter is a great place to learn that. Again I enjoy the channel keep up the good work.
Now I get what you’re saying, that Super Shelter is genius! I think some of the concepts can be utilized without doing the entire shelter. For instance some brush in between blankets to create air space. I look forward to getting back to some experimenting. Thanks for sharing that.
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why is it illegal to camp with goats?
There’s a disease that domestic goats carry and can pass on to wild goats. Apparently it’s only particular lands that goats aren’t allowed now so I may be able to camp with them if I want to.
Your animals are more resilient to cold weather than you are. You need to quit being a Pantheon with the animals and let them live.
You misunderstood what I said in the video.
Would a fire pit be less smokey?
Not from my experiments. I found being perpendicular to the wind was a great solution.
@@OverOnTheWildSide good luck with your adventures. Its wonderful to see someone wanting to experience the " old ways " of getting by and surving.
Great to see some passion.
Good luck and you've gain a sub.🙊🙉🙈🙏
@@paulsymons7643 thank you, and thank you
Whine much ?
My channel isn’t for you. It’s about improving and that’s done by acknowledging weaknesses and needs for improvement.