Day Versus Night Charts in Astrology! Understanding Sect with Yelena Crawford
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Day Versus Night Charts in Astrology! Understanding Sect with Yelena Crawford
In this video, Heather is joined by Professional Astrologer and Cosmic Academy of Astrology Teaching Assistant Yelena Crawford for a deep dive into the Hellenistic concept of sect in astrology!
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Oh. I think the contrary to sect slide was confusing me. I think it's easier to say that Jupiter is most beneficial and mars is most malefic in a day chart and venus is most beneficial and Saturn most malefic in a night chart.
My Sun is above the horizon, and I have always been a nocturnal Piscean. Over the years I've noticed that my normal sleep cycle/normal time that I wake up has always been very close to the time that I was born.
Night chart person here!! It all resonated for me 💖💖
This was EXTREMELY informative!! I’m in Heather’s Cosmic Academy and this helped me so much! I listened to in pieces but I DEFINITELY made connections within my own chart which is a night chart. With Saturn specifically, as well as the feminine energies. Thanks to you both!! 🙏🏻
This is great! To answer Heather’s comment: Alpha is the state our brainwaves are in when waking, it’s also the state you’re in when meditating. Theta is deep meditation, right before Delta (sleep). Beta is an awake “in the flow” state.
Thank you!
Night chart (1.30 a.m.). I am a private person, I don't like being in the spotlight. My most beneficial planet is Venus in 3rd house - I work for a newspaper. The Moon is in 12th house, so I do a lot of work behind the scenes, as a editorial secretary general. My most difficult planet is Saturn in 2nd house - I have problems with self-esteem regarding my body weight, as the Moon in 12th house is pushing me, among other things, to overeat, so I gain weight very easily. Thank you for the informations, I loved it!
I have a night chart with aqua rising. So saturn is my chart ruler. When Saturn hit my 12th house cusp in february 2018 my husband had a massive heart attack and died in front of me. When it hit the same degrees in retrograde at the end of June the same year, my sister died quickly of very aggressive cancer. So what you say is absolutely true about the severing quality of the most malefic planet.
I'm so sorry for your loss!
@@AstrologywithHeather thank you. I have Jupiter in taurus in the 4th house. I have read that those with this position handle grief well. I grieved at the time, but I know they are in a better place and I rarely have sorrow.
Love this video! Sun in the 12 here. I was born at 10:06 A.M. I definitely feel more like a day chart, but I'm very private with the Sun in the 12th. The way I describe it is that I desire public recognition and an abundant career, but it hard for me to get out there and shine my light. I have a RUclips channel, but I don't like showing my face lol!
I feel the same way, but my sun is in the 7th house, born around 6PM.
Born early in the morning, just before sunrise... Capricorn sun, Sagittarius rising, Scorpio moon. My sun is in first house. And I go between all three. Sometimes one resonates more than the rest. Moon is 11th house. But, I'm an introvert. I compartmentalize my life. I leave work at work, home at home, and section off groups to just those... I don't "need" people. I better recharge when alone
Thanks for a great presentation! I have a Moon chart and am an published author, so work from home and am on the best of terms with solitude! My Moon in is in Aquarius the tenth house. Saturn has certainly been the most difficult planet for me in the 5th house squaring my 2nd house Sun (my father and his family never let me be myself, they would shame me into submission and make a point of never celebrating my achievments. I'm almost completely estranged from them now, and so much happier for it! :) I have Saturn conjunct Mars in the fifth so that has also been tough re self-esteem issues related to the constant family put downs , but since I started playing squash last year I feel totally transformed and fully loving life and myself. I have Venus conjuct Asc which helps me overcome a lot. Squash feels like it is designed for me: Merc conjunct Northnode and Sun in Gemini, Saturn conjunct Mars in Virgo, Moon in Aquarius (Sidereal). The world No1 squash player Nour El Sherbini also has Merc in a 0 degrees conjunction with the Northnode and Sun in Virgo (Sidereal). Merc conjunct Rahu/North node in mutable signs lends itself to squash as a multidirectional sport where extra lightning quick agility, adaptability and a multidirectional mentality are essential! Because it moves so fast, the exacting and precise Virgo and control of Saturn are key. Rahu/Northnode conjunct Mercury represents the extreme end of mental and physical agility, so the mind-body can change direction at hyperspeed, the animal analogy in squash is an eagle swooping or cobra attacking prey at high speed, also used in Vedic astrology to represent the quickness of Rahu. Check Nour El Sherbini out on You Tube and you'll see what I mean, she has a day chart so would love being in the public arena, whereas I woud hate to play in front of a crowd having a Moon chart. Gone off on a tangent here, but would love to hear your thoughts on this :)
You can also use this information with your progressed chart! I just found out that in 2023, when I turn 60, my Sun will finally be on the horizon (ascendant/descendant axis),
I have a day chart, with the Sun in the 12th house. I am more shy but I can also say that I am naturally more mental perceptive. I have had to teach myself how to be more intuitive. Thank you for this video, it's been very enlightening!
Same and it doesn't help that my 12th house Leo sun is the chart Ruler (ascendant at 29 degrees),also square to scorpio pluto in the 3rd and Inconjunt to my Capricorn Saturn-Neptune conjunction in the 5th. 10th house Gemini moon is also inconjuct Pluto and the saturn-Neptune conjunction...which is actually a stellium with Uranus, saturn, and neptune in a 8 degree span...all 3 of which are retrograde.
It's alot.
I am night chart and definitely resonate. My benefic planet is Venus in my 6H of health and service. I have supported adults with learning disabilities for the past 20years, 12 years in my current role I do love it and it is very rewarding. My malefic planet is Saturn with my moon in my 5H and my romantic life has been challenging when I had my Saturn return I went through a pretty major period involved my ex and I have raised my son on my own for the past 8 years. I have grown and learnt a lot so nothing but gratitude. The day/night chart pretty bang on point for me! 😊
Great presentation Yelena!
I am right on the line above sitting on it, and for a fact that the sun was setting/almost set when I was born, I still live in that town that's how I know, and my lines that are supposed to cross everywhere are really different and limited in mostly one area, and some of my houses are split down the center of shared signs. Thank you for making these videos, helps me to understand myself better.
oh man. this is AMAZING!!!
night birth, 12:06am. moon and rising in cancer... DEFINITELY an intuitive person lol
Absolutely excellent presentation. I am a student of the Cosmic Academy of Astrology and still appreciate this presentation. Sect brings even more clarity to me learning about myself, my life experiences, and understanding certain people in my family. Talk about a light bulb moment! Thanks again. P.S.: I absolutely love the clarity and Self confidence I gained by becoming my own astrologer.
Sorry for the last reply, that was a fake scammer account, not me!
Day chart here. My benefic, Jupiter is in my 10th ruled by Scorpio. Scorpio rulers Mars and Pluto are in my 8th house.
The malefic Mars is in my 8th house, my Virgo ruled house and Mercury the chart ruler is in my 8th house of Scorpio.
I am very interested in the paranormal, and life after death. Plus, I have lost a lot of people. My life is about living, death, & rebirth. Beginnings and endings are a constant in my life.
My Sun in Virgo is in my 8th house.
Fascinating!
With hesitation, At 13:13 I had to pause and comment (I rarely do this) …so as the saying goes: “opposites attract” it is in my opinion, yin/yang!!! Based upon what I heard up to the moment I paused even without looking at birth charts there are ppl who I sensed had a day chart and after I personally looked up a few charts I realized 1. I have a night chart, and I’m attracted to ppl with day charts.
2. Also, i asked a couple friends to feel more secure and safe and trust more to confirm my theory: (who have day/night chart) and and it is accurate!!!
I have a very … interesting … night chart - born 8:25pm Jan 21st. Everything definitely resonates with me except for being “private” although I think I’ve become more private as I’ve gotten older.
Yelena’s energy is on point! I love it!! Definitely makes it very easy to pay attention and understand the information.
Thank you ladies so much, this was an amazing video💗
Wow this is fantastic! I love her energy! Very clear ,,understandable
I was born so close to midnight that my father registered my date of birth as March 7th, while the doctor in the hospital wrote down March 8th. And I always felt that Saturn was the most important planet for me to watch. My life altering moments came when Saturn transited my first house (ascendant). Luckily, my Saturn returns were moments of reclusion and rest, because then Saturn also happens to be in the 12th house from my Sun sign. And I mean resting like wanting to break away from a stagnant point in life, but realizing at the same time it wouldn't be the right timing. You have to work with Saturn and not against it.
Amazing work, ladies! 💫 Thank you for your insights!
Totally resonate… love all your videos
Day chart but cancer ascendant with moon in first house so def both energies 😘😘😘
My sun is a few degrees from the horizon line- no wonder I'm always caught between head and heart. Full moon baby too. Feels like a gift and a curse.
Signed up for your class
Excited to have you in our astrology training! :)
I'm an Aries rising with a day chart. So my chart ruler is the most malefic planet is my chart. Ouch. Having my "Team Leaders" Jupiter and Saturn trine each other is a big help, and Mars likes being comfy in Scorpio.
Hello ladies and thank you. As a Greek astrologer I can give you this: Etymologically - based on the ancient greek secretariat - Airesis is the conquest and to occupy or (derived from the middle voice -airoumai = elect) the preference, the right of election, free will and choice 😊
It's funny because (as a day chart native) I have my most beneficial planet (Jupiter) in an exact conjunction with my most malific planet (Mars) in my first house conjunct my Ascendant.
Amazing presentation, Yelena!! So much clarity. ⭐💗⭐
I’m 7:13am, so day chart. Sun in the 12th and I’m a very shy person. Don’t like to draw attention to myself at all.
This resonates so much! Im such a huge morning person, but i was born in the evening- and i feel very private sometimes and much more intuitively, emotionally driven. Although im a sag with a leo rising i find some resistance with sharing too much or ill take breaks.
Thank you Ladies. Very interesting!
Amazing presentation!!
I absolutely love these types of constructive advanced videos you do. I learned so much! Thank you to both of you for your wisdom! ♥️
Wow! Love her teaching style ❤️
This collaborative video is awesome and the content is chocked full of revelation for me. Thank you for sharing your astrological wisdom with the collection.🌞🦋
Such a great lesson ! My mars is in Aquarius which is of the sect and venus in my 6W th house also gemini in the sixth venus and mercury ! It all makes so much sense and my north and south node( picies north )and Virgo south … makes so much sense exactly my personality and fast thinking mind, always can contribute to conversation and be in point . I never struggled in school at all high achiever, however as an adult I’ve changed my direction of education quite a bit as I’ve been trying to figure out what my new career is going to be since leaving my career of 9 years ! My obsession with adult information since I was a little girl and positive thinking and these types of ideals . I absolutely love learning my chart I cannot wait to be versed enough to read my friends and families and blow their mind. I tell everyone how accurate it is, but to blow their mind I will have to be able to read and articulate to them and they will in fact be astonished. Love this…💕💕
Night chart, Cancer rising with my moon conjunct my rising. Venus trining both. Sun in Libra in the 4th. Never knew how important my moon was!!!
Thank you this is very interesting I was born @ 6:08 a.m. going my birth certificate but I resonate with both considering a reading you did awesome job Yelena 🥰🥰
Wonderful! Thank you!
I am a 12:30 pm Aries rising, Capricorn sun and Aquarius moon person. Venus Aquarius in the 11th and Mars in Taurus in the 1st.
Day chart at noon - Jupiter is greater benefic and Mars is the contrary of sect malefic - Saturn in Aries in the 10th and Jupiter in Pisces in the 9th (among my 9H stellium with Mars/Jupiter/Mercury/Sun/MC) // I feel extremely Jupitarian 🤍
(November 5:32 am)
**Night Chart**
🌞 is right next to the horizon in the beginning of the 2nd house... Actually where most of my planets are and I honestly do relate to the night Chart more so but just barely I am sorta torn between the two but could be my natal ♎♂️ or my ♊🌜
😆🤷🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ I'm a mess
❤️❤️❤️❤️LOVE the dedication in finding new and interesting topics within astrology to teach us on.
Okay should have waited 30 seconds more before commenting. She literally goes into this.... 🙄😏🤷🏼♀️
I am a night chart and the description is totally me. I am looking at might Hellenistic chart and some house placements are different.
I absolutely LOVED this! Yelena always amazes with her Hellenistic knowledge! I'm excited to learn more about the Hellenistic techniques this year!
@Astrology with Heather Another fake account of Heather here😝 Reported.
@@TheSuri26 Thank you! These weird scammer bots on RUclips are the worst!
Haha I loved the story about the made-up birth time 😂 and Heather's reaction: "Oh my God, you can't do that!" 😄 Thank you for this awesome video ❤❤❤
I was born in the day and have moon conjunct the sun in the 10th house in different signs, but I have a more lunar personality. Trouble is people take excessive notice of me. I've felt like someone could be right beside committing a murder and I would get arrested for jay walking. I have a splay chart, so transits are always hitting me too. I have a Venus ruled chart which might contribute to that. Venus is fine unless it goes retrograde which kicks my butt.
I was born at 5:10 pm December 21 and my sun conjuncts my descendant. I feel I have a night chart as my moon is in the 9th house and I resonate with the more intuitive feminine yin type. Thanks for this 🙏
Thanks Heather 😘 😘😘 😘
Thank you for this! 💙💙💛
If this is what your classes are like. I’m ready to sign up. I learned and understood a whole new concept in less than an hour and I see it so clearly in my birth chart. When is registration open?
Thank you both! I feel like a hybrid, Lol. Sun in 9th conj Jupiter ruled by mercury (Gemini), Merc conjunct my Moon in 8th opposite Neptune in scorpio. I often really waver between my head and my gut, for sure!
Night born person here
Interesting discussion. Thanks Heather. Yelena mentioned that she had a had time finding celebrities with a night chart. Here is a short list, just to name a few. Elvis Presley, Michael Jackson, Oprah Winfrey, Leonardo DiCaprio, Cyndi Lauper, Bill Gates and Barack Obama.
I have a day time chart with Sun in the twelfth house, actually I have sun, Mars, mercury, and Pluto all in the twelfth house in Scorpio, I am a very private person!
Oh yessss for night chart ..moon in scorpio ...so me when described
Wow. I have a night chart and relate to everything you’re saying about the moon influences and characteristics. 😮 I do relate to some of the sun characteristics too but I’m wondering if that’s because it’s in my 1st house!!
Thanks Heather
My rising is almost exactly opposite my sun, born in the evening and I would say I'm a mix of both and often conflicted between the two
Interesting reading, thank you for this. Because I was born after 5PM which is technically in the evening zone, I had assumed I was a "night chart" so I was going off my Moon sign more for another YT reading, but now with this hellenistic sect, I've realised I'm a "day chart"! Also I'd love to hear your explanations of the 12th house which is where my Most Benefic lies - how do you define this house? I find other websites or astrologers loosely explain it but always sounds ambiguous!
I’m born at noon so I’m a day chart person with my sun in the 10th house on the highest point of the chart in cancer but I’m a very private, shy person though. Got a cancer stellium and moon in the 1st house.
Uau. How successful are in your career? Or in the marriage? My son also was born near midday and has sun in the 10th!
Loved this so much! Just curious, my friend has both her luminaries under the horizon line?
Sun in 2nd, Moon in 4th, How would you read that?
I removed my comment. Made a mistake. She has a night chart
I have always loved Trump's chart because he truly lives it... I have a brother with the same mars 1st placements and he hasn't been able to navigate the challenges nearly as well. Honestly, Trump chart shows how in tune with himself he actually is.
I was born at 11:30 am, so that would be considered a day chart, sun in 11th house, but moon below the horizon in the 4th house. I resonate fully with the lunar goddess description. 🤷♀️ I wonder if the placement of the moon above or below the horizon plays a role? I also wonder how you would discern a day/night chart if a person has their sun conjunct their ascendant or descendant?
This was such an informative and organized presentation...Great job Yelena and Heather!!! Also, I laughed so hard when Trump appeared and Heather puts her arms up and says "Oh jeez...why did you pick him?" 😂
👋 thanks!
I’m definitely a night person.. I was born at 9:59 pm and the description of the Lunar Goddess fits me to a T🌙
amazing
Ok so those with night birth time after 5pm the sun is above the horizon? Clint Eastwood’s sun is in the 7th house. Is that correct. Just curious what time does night time begin?
The time depends on your location and length of the day. You have a day chart if the sun is in the sky (7th to 12th house, above the horizon) and you have a night chart after the sun set (1st to 6st house, below the horizon)
My most benefic and most malefic planets venus and Saturn are conjunct in my 2nd house in Pisces. Venus has the lower degree. I think that is good. Saturn is my chart ruler.....
This was amazing! What happens is your in sect team planets are conjunct?
What I don’t understand is that the 12th house is above the horizon and so it should be more public, but it’s the most hidden house. E.g. having sun in the 12th makes a person feel more isolated and not out there performing in the world
The way I understand it is "hidden in plain sight". For example, maybe we have subconcious/unconcious patterns that we personally/subjectively aren't aware that we have, but maybe very obvious to other people when they observe us objectively. But the energy of 12th is more internal/spiritual so we may feel that way, but it's maybe obvious to other people that they (person with 12th house sun) are that way also. Whereas sometimes someone might feel more introverted, but other people would never have guessed that about them at all. Hope that's helpful! :)
I was born at 6:21pm June 3rd 1982 ima Gemini sun
My husband's sun and moon are opposite of each other (full moon). Both slightly below the horizon...
Heather, alpha state is when you are awake. It is measured when the eyes are closed but not asleep.
Yes thank you! I meant to look that up after we recorded this.
These Rock!
Thank you for this amazing info but I’m a bit stuck. My ascendant is Scorpio 16 degrees and my sun is Taurus 16 degrees so the horizon is dead in the middle how do I calculate this ? Thank you ❤️😘
I have a strange chart. Sun and moon are in mutual reception in 6th and 7th houses and to make that even more confusing my sun is very close to the descendant haha
I admit I am confused by this a bit, so does this mean all the Venus Mars conjunction stuff I keep hearing is so awesome is actually really bad 4 us day chart people? And is it weird to have a day chart but be completely nocturnal and hate much sun exposure?
My sun is right on the line in the 7th house.
I am technically have a night chart...My sun is 2 degrees and my moon is also 2 degrees ...I feel I play more with the Day but I have to really study this a bit more.
What happens when your right in the exact middle of the horizon? 11/7/74 4:57 PM
So should we ignore our malefic planets? I think it would've been more constructive to include some ways to work on/or with the malefics.
Just out of curiosity: where is Mercury in all of this? Is Mercury a neutral planet in the sects? Also, are sunset charts also considered twilight charts?
Cyndi Lauper is night. Her Moon is way up high though, in her top house, Scorpio. Also I think the true chart for David Bowie is Libra rising with Neptune conjunct ascendant. His Moon would then be with Pluto and Saturn in Leo, his 11th house. He was famously private about his personal affairs, casting illusionist webs of art for his people to feed upon. I think the Berlin period was when he extracted his Capricorn Sun from the illusions of his ascendant. He's got all the signs of a night birth, all his underground poems, the Dancing Gnome, the apocalyptic visions of his early albums, taken by his illusory Libra and his performer Moon on a wild cocaine ride through the 70's, then Low, just as his Saturn return hit. My life echoes similar patterns with my Moon up high in Gemini, Capricorn way down low with Libra on my face. Feeling my own sense of root, power, grounded energy, self discipline has been a long time coming as I started out in my head lost in the clouds. Lunatic for sure.
Do you guys come across many birth charts that have two trines that make the star of david in the middle
I was born at around 6:30pm. Is that an exact night time or between day and night?
What if your born at 5:00 pm in the winter and it’s completely dark out? Is that still considered night?
Night chart with venus only at 0 degree.will it still be helpful or too weak to do anything good because of low degree?
Picasso was born at midnight (so he said)
I'm a Gemini rising with Saturn 1 house with my rising and Sun in Libra in 5 house with the stellium there and a cancer Moon and I was born at 10:35 p.m. at night and I don't know if my moon is more stronger than my fifth house Libra with the stallion or the Gemini's with Saturn there is more prevalent
I’m a Leo sun and rising
My issue with using the whole sign concept is that my rising sign is 29 degrees Capricorn.
I haveca day chart- Sun is at 4° Aquarius 8th house
I was born at 3:26pm, would that be a day or night chart?
I have a night chart and my Venus Rx and Saturn are both in my 4th house. does one have more influence than the other
What about real early morning 320 am sun in scorpio conj newmoon libra 28 degrees
17:08 wasn’t for day chart the malefic was mars and for the night chart it was saturn?
So I have Jupiter in my fourth and fifth as well as my sun all in taraus ! So Jupiter wouldn’t be benificial conjunction because it’s out of my sect being that I have a night chart ! That’s wild ..