Vs Saxton Hale is programmed so that all weapons get their "on kill" effect when you hit Hale with them. So The Half-Zatoichi's health on kill effect on this mode is busted. Combined with the increased health and damage/crit resistance from The Battalion's Backup, you get a Soldier that's basically invincible
This is true... however not for airstrike.... they forgot to program that (Edit: nevermind it does, after dealing 250 damage to hale... dunno why 250 exactly)
@ManaCloak It's like the hide of the Nimeian Lion from Greek Myth, no blade could hope to cut it. Hercules thought he was smart for choking them to death. Soldierai just smashes.
I wouldn't be suprised that one of the very few people that could feasibly beat Hale in a fair fight would be Soldier. Making soldier into comic relief and then revealing that he is also capable of beating one of the strongest aussies out there is just perfection.
"Foward!" "If you'd know what's good for you, you would run" dude is a menace Also, what combination of buttons did you press at 1:33 to fall like that? 99% of the time i killbind my corpse loses all momentum and falls like a brick.
Any time you win as Hale in this mode feels less like a victory on your part and more like a giant failure on the part of the defenders. I feel like they HAVE TO have like an 80/20 advantage.
try medic melee, just stock melee or reskin, the speed of medic lets you juggle them without getting hit by strafing back and going forward to hit, ive gotten like 6k damage with medic melee
@ManaCloak Ubersaw gives you 50% Uber on this mode, so you only need 2. He's talking specifically about juggling Hale forever by crit knock backs, which wouldn't work with the Ubersaw due to it's 20% slower firing speed.
@@spookyscarylamppost3431 You're correct, I have tried the Ubersaw + Quickfix to heal back all hits done to me, but the swing speed makes it impossible to juggle and get the good damage I had before. (Best maps for this are nucleus and skirmish at the spots where there's a roof and a wall, maybe even a corner to make it way easier to juggle.) Though I have not tried the amputator due to the less damage (152 crit damage) but it heals way faster to be able to survive multiple hits.
VSH is awesome because it gives more utility to the items typically thought of as underpowered or downright useless. The Half-Zatoichi is rarely used on Soldier, but here it's basically OP. Same with the Eviction Notice on Heavy.
"WHY WONT YOU DIE?!" "Battalion's Backup, son! It hardens in response to physical trauma!" (It's highly ironic that in this version its the guy with the sword is one who refuses to die)
@@LinucNerd If you don't play the game you have no room to speak on what's balanced or not. besides VSH is a whole different mess of balancing compared to normal TF2. you may have an outsider's perspective, but you need to play the game so you can have an actually good opinion of it instead of basing it off of frag vid highlights. that's what the term "playtesting" means. edit: spelling fixes.
@@menacingpyro2005 "No room to speak on TF2"... "outsider perspective rather than basing it off of highlights"... What even? ... I didn't say I never played tf2, just that I don't right now (haven't for a year, but I've kept up with plugin development and mapping for TF2). I think the both of us aren't catching the other's tone here, as this is text only, but I cannot read what you said here without the strong hint of elitism; and I am sure that isn't your intention.
Vs Saxton Hale is programmed so that all weapons get their "on kill" effect when you hit Hale with them. So The Half-Zatoichi's health on kill effect on this mode is busted. Combined with the increased health and damage/crit resistance from The Battalion's Backup, you get a Soldier that's basically invincible
This is true... however not for airstrike.... they forgot to program that (Edit: nevermind it does, after dealing 250 damage to hale... dunno why 250 exactly)
@@TehPlayer14 According to the TF2 wiki the Air Strike gets its on kill effect every 250 damage. So yes, it does work for the Air Strike.
@TehPlayer14 it works, I've used it
Fun fact in tc2 this technally also worked for 1 of pyros weapons until it got banned I think
(Red sun plays in background)
The Hale trying to escape and soldier denying it is so fun to watch
Hale: _Crickey this ones a doozey, I guess I might actually need to go and live to fight ano-_
Soldier: *NEGATORY*
*IMPERIAL FORCE DEFIED*
@@Peter_Turbo4*FACING 500 SAMURAI!*
@@flazzorb As an australian citizen you nailed that lingo, convinced you were a true blue bona fide australian myself.
@@ruileite4579 *SURROUNDED AND OUTNUMBERED*
Soldier beating the snot out of Saxton Hale with the dull side of a katana is an energy I didn't know I needed
Soldier thought he confiscated ww2 Japanese CQC training material but it was just the first season of Samurai X
lmao, I never realised he hits with the blunt side
Bruhhhh now i cant unsee it 😢😢
that's how it looks in first person
3rd person he hits with the sharp side
This is exactly what soldier would do and still win
Soldier was actually dying every time he got hit, he was just coming back stronger instantly thanks to Merasmus’ heart medicine
"You're taking my Heart Medication!?"
@@armyboy0579it's his "come back from death stronger" pills or something along the lines of that
@@waterlessant5355Soldier thought they were normal heart medication.
"Son, always remember: dying is gay" - Stblackst
SOLDIER THOSE WERE MY LUNG CANCER PILLS
"If you know what's good for you, *you will run.* "
The only threat in Hale's life that he gave some thought to.
Clearly, however, he did not listen.
" I AM NOT TRAPPED IN HERE WITH YOU; *_YOU_* ARE TRAPPED IN HERE WITH *_ME!_* "
- actual Soldier voice line from MvM
*crazy laughter*
-also soldier voice line
"I am a Robot. I am here to take over American jobs."
-Robot Soldier
"I am naked and covered in honey again!"
-cold day In hell soldier
"If God had wanted you to live, He would not have created *me!*"
@@asteroidrules *"MAGGOTS!"*
man hes doing pretty good considering he's slapping hale with the side of his sword
I mean it’s working
@ManaCloak It's like the hide of the Nimeian Lion from Greek Myth, no blade could hope to cut it. Hercules thought he was smart for choking them to death. Soldierai just smashes.
@@blasterman1000I mean.. he's smart.. if you can't cut a beast. Why not just.. not cut it
@ManaCloak sounds like TF2
I have more than 1000 hours combined and I just now realised how Soldier uses the sword.
I didn't realize that melee soldier with Battalion's was this busted
It’s not, these Hales were worse at melee fighting than the Soldier.
Even on community it's good
The battalions I meant. Soldiers only use the escape plan on community
its soldierknight
battalion's is my go-to in medieval mode, good to see you can 1v1 hale with it now, soldier makes playing knight fun without having a busted charge
Soldier's equivalent of Demoknight
"i killed your last medic, what you gonna do now"
*_Take matters into my own hands._*
Jesus Christ that's such a raw line.
*"Must I do EVERYTHING myself?"* energy.
the "my engineer is faster" had me laughing for a good minute.
kudos on the funny
I suppose this is the closest we'll ever get of a Saxton Hale vs Jetstream Sam fight
Saxton Armstrong vs Soldaien
The final boss of the Sam DLC though.
Nah, that soldier is more like Armstrong
"WHY WON'T YOU DIE!?"
"Nanokatas, maggot! They heal in response to damage. I'M GOING TO LIVE FOREVER!"
Saxton Hale: “What have you done?”
Soldier: “Scorched earth.”
*Proceeds to melee each other*
*Saxton gets mad and starts flying*
You have my respect for that reference.
You mean like Ark survival evolved?
@@WeFightForKarlthe boys reference, not the worst ark dlc
I wouldn't be suprised that one of the very few people that could feasibly beat Hale in a fair fight would be Soldier.
Making soldier into comic relief and then revealing that he is also capable of beating one of the strongest aussies out there is just perfection.
He did eat all of Merasmus's "kill me and I come back stronger" pills.
@@asteroidrules "Die and comeback stronger pills"*
1:03 "IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOOD FOR YA, YOU WILL RUN!" "cheers mate you got it"
Of course soldier won - he's the only one that can say negatory and he also has an infinite amount of buckets.
"I used to think my sword was a tool of Democracy.
But now... now I'm not so sure.
And besides... this is Demoman's sword!"
That's basically grog nozzle melee zero
I can't live with myself knowing that this combination of words makes sense to me
That would be kunai spy actually
@@toothpick7084 are we broken
@@willi526 we were just built the right way
@@toothpick7084explain lol is it borderlands?
"Remember son, dying is gae"
-soldier tf2
Saxton hale: why u dont die?!
Soldier: nanomachines son
This does make sense as soldier is the best merc to go to Saxton and not give two damns about the blows he’s willing to take
"You will not be missed" my favorite line
Truly a Revengence moment.
Why won't you die because this isn't my sword 🌚
2:17
tAkE tHaT sAxToN fAaaaaaaaaaaiIllL
You know it's serious when the Hale player starts running away.
*YOU CANNOT RUN FROM ME, MY* engineer *IS FASTER!*
Soldier: Doktor shut off my pain inhibitors.
"I am soldier the undying"
-solder the undying
While Saxton Hale wrestled wild animals in the wild Soldier studied the blade
Strongest Australian vs Weakest American
Weakest Australian Vs Strongest American*
@@paladin_auig you don't understand it
@@painandsuffering962 you don’t understand my comment
@@kitchenappliancemanufacturer ik bruh
@@paladin_au thats not how that joke used, you dweeb
Saxton's low health fills you with DETERMINATION
3:15 I am not trapped in here with you, you are trapped in here with ME RAHHHHH
"Son Always Remember Dying Is Gay."
3:00 I’m not trapped in here with you you’re trapped in here with me
knowing that this was a common tactic in freak fortress community servers, these hales havent learned to run away fron this trap
"Foward!"
"If you'd know what's good for you, you would run"
dude is a menace
Also, what combination of buttons did you press at 1:33 to fall like that? 99% of the time i killbind my corpse loses all momentum and falls like a brick.
Local homeless man studies the blade, kills strongest man alive
“for 4 minutes and 11 seconds, the soldier is effectively immortal”
Any time you win as Hale in this mode feels less like a victory on your part and more like a giant failure on the part of the defenders. I feel like they HAVE TO have like an 80/20 advantage.
try medic melee, just stock melee or reskin, the speed of medic lets you juggle them without getting hit by strafing back and going forward to hit, ive gotten like 6k damage with medic melee
@ManaCloak
Ubersaw gives you 50% Uber on this mode, so you only need 2. He's talking specifically about juggling Hale forever by crit knock backs, which wouldn't work with the Ubersaw due to it's 20% slower firing speed.
@@spookyscarylamppost3431 You're correct, I have tried the Ubersaw + Quickfix to heal back all hits done to me, but the swing speed makes it impossible to juggle and get the good damage I had before. (Best maps for this are nucleus and skirmish at the spots where there's a roof and a wall, maybe even a corner to make it way easier to juggle.) Though I have not tried the amputator due to the less damage (152 crit damage) but it heals way faster to be able to survive multiple hits.
2:55 half expected the ' they jumping me' meme to go off ngl
Hale really thought he could jump away, failing to remember a soldier's ability to rocket jump.
VSH is awesome because it gives more utility to the items typically thought of as underpowered or downright useless. The Half-Zatoichi is rarely used on Soldier, but here it's basically OP. Same with the Eviction Notice on Heavy.
And I've been doing this with the Conch like a fool, with the idea of 100% restoring any hp you lost during the backpack... this seems more efficient
"I killed your last medic, what’re you going to do now?"
ironic.
Rocket jumping twords saxton as he runs from you is some of the most badass stuff ive ever seen.
soldier:"IF GOD WANTED YOU TO LIVE.... HE WOULDNT CREATE ME!"
"YOU CAN NOT RUN FROM ME, MY ENGINEER IS FASTER"
Man Piemations called it, Soldier really CAN beat Saxton Hale basically by himself
This man went TOE-to-TOE with the (probably) strongest person in all of tf2 lore and actually beat his ass
Lore accurate Soldier
3:30 better to taunt after your victory than before it. You look silly pumping your fists before the finish line and then have someone zoom past you
"I am not trapped in here with you, you are trapped in here with me!"
"you cannot run from me, my *_engineer_* is faster" Soldier TF2, 27th July 2023
Bullying an australian god-like man with a sharp stick
It costs 400,000 Saxton Hale dignities.
"let me solo him"
I do not have permision to die
-soldier
Soldier the Undying
*Undyne the Undying theme starts playing*
Can we please just appreciate the Widowmaker Engineer and Ham Sniper?
"Son always remember: "dying is G4e" "
-American Boot Senior
Soldiers in VSH with half zatoichi with the defensive banner: I DO NOT FEAR YOU, YOU SHOULD FEAR ME
It turns out that when a melee weapon gives overheal on hit and you face an opponent who only has melee attacks, it's pretty hard to beat
He remembered that dying is gay
THIS IS THE WAY YOU DO IT MAGGOTS!
"making the mother of all omelets here jane can't fret over every egg"
"what?"
I killed your last medic! What ya gunna do now!
Soldier:Be my own medic
Fucking incredible.
DAMN you have to be really good at melee to survive saxton that much
also thats a really nice combo
nice!
not when your melee attack has sword range and gives you the katana on-kill effect every single hit...
"WHY WONT YOU DIE?!"
"Battalion's Backup, son! It hardens in response to physical trauma!"
(It's highly ironic that in this version its the guy with the sword is one who refuses to die)
He’s just repeatedly slapping him with the flat side of his sword
I thought that weapon only heals on kill? Whys it healing on hit?
weapons get certain perks and such when introduced to VSH. also V-Script properties edit the stats to give effects to weapons.
on-kill weapons are switched to on-hit effects, because in VSH the only person that can get more than one kill per round is Hale.
I think its because Hale can only die once. A weapon which only heals per kill would be useless against one boss enemy
a lot of weapons like candy cane and vita saw are still sueless
@@wheeI ah yes, the weapons are unable to take legal action against valve for not fairly representing them in Team The Two Fort 2Fort Fortress Team 2.
This is how a dual between Doomguy and V1 would go probably maybe possibly
next time I boot up TF2 ima have to try this out.
Yes, lets abuse it while we can! Screw other's enjoyment of the game! /sar
@@LinucNerd I just want to do a meme loadout with this, don’t get so mad br0.
@@menacingpyro2005 I think you're reading too much into my comment, not even tone indicators will help. Despite my pfp, I don't actually play TF2.
@@LinucNerd If you don't play the game you have no room to speak on what's balanced or not. besides VSH is a whole different mess of balancing compared to normal TF2. you may have an outsider's perspective, but you need to play the game so you can have an actually good opinion of it instead of basing it off of frag vid highlights. that's what the term "playtesting" means.
edit: spelling fixes.
@@menacingpyro2005 "No room to speak on TF2"... "outsider perspective rather than basing it off of highlights"... What even? ... I didn't say I never played tf2, just that I don't right now (haven't for a year, but I've kept up with plugin development and mapping for TF2). I think the both of us aren't catching the other's tone here, as this is text only, but I cannot read what you said here without the strong hint of elitism; and I am sure that isn't your intention.
american sam vs aussie armstrong
as migiTF2 opened his domain, saxton hale shrunk back in fear but migi said
"stand proud saxton you are strong"
THERE WILL BE BLOOD SHEAD, MAN IN THE MIRROR NODS HIS HEAD
1:41 Oh ok then
“Son, always remember, dying is gay”
I just love that Sniper who also beating Saxton hale.
WITH A HAM 🤣
on kill + crits + battalions backup + half zatoichi = overpowered soldier
"If you know whats good for ya, you will run!"
Thats surprisingly fitting.
3:07
japanese saxton hale?
What was that helmet?
"I killed your last medic. What you gonna do now"
"Now here you see i have this sword"
I like how a lot of these comments are about how soldier can probably do this in canon, due to the crazy feats he's accomplished
*standing here, I realize-"
Welp, Jane Doe successfully beat the shit out of the mighty Australian CEO of Mann Co. with the honor of a samurai.
Art of the Quick Handed, Half-Blind, Insane, Swords man
soldier: im not trapped with saxton hale, saxton hale is trapped with ME
Battle Against a True Shovel
Theme of Soldier the Undying
"I killed your last medic, what'cha gonna do now?" *dies 16 seconds later*
Local American Too Lead-Poisoned To Die, Kills Near-Immortal Australian
“I’m not trapped in here with you, YOU’RE TRAPPED IN HERE WITH ME!”
"I've killed your last medic. What'rya gonna do now?"
Famous last words
Sorry Hale, Soldier wasnt given permission to die
“Stand proud Saxton, you are strong.”
- Samurai Soldier
I thought he was invincible cuz a medic was hitting crossbow shots from a distance lmao
even solider thinks saxton hale is too soft for him
if you know whats good for you you will run! -soldier right before he about to destroy saxton hale
I love saxton's voice lines XD
"You dare jarate me? Well I was already pissed!
Everyone talk about how powerful soldier are but no one talk about a sniper try to beat saxton with his "MEAT" and still alive