I have to agree with this. This game did have potential until I found out what the gameplay was going to be. MMO survival shooters are mostly journeys through toxic socializing. Hard Pass on this...
@@nahCmeR i have no dog in the race but i hate these replies. the comments are there for people to express their opinion. if you don't like that go somewhere else then lol
@@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa we had brown, then we had piss filter, then we had blue/teal and then we ended up with 'cinematic' orange and teal side of things. we are truly living in a time of all time.
A lot of the mechanics and setup seem to draw heavily from the game Stalcraft; like almost exactly with some minor tweaks here and there (Not to mention a complete graphical overhaul). Which if that is the case I am excited for the game, as it does look like they are wanting to make a more polished version.
@@nathandingy Stalcraft has been a thing for a decent amount of time, it just recently made its western debut, the Russian version has been out for quite a while and before that it was a Minecraft mod. Stalcraft had the luck of being built on top of something but it does severely limit the playerbase that is willing to check it out; not to mention the horror that is the character's faces.
@@ZBM2 Along with from what I hear the Russian version being fairly pay to win... however honestly some of the concepts for the core gameplay itself are actually quite good if you ask me. (Such as how world events work, and the gear barter system) Played it FAR too much these past couple months (actually taking a pause during the winter event since I'm not really interested in it though), and I'd love to see another game do something similar but do it even better. (and not pay to win preferably)
To be fair, this game seem to have a LOT of work put into the environment, it's not just some default UE assets, but an actual art direction going on. Doesn't seem to be a cash grab, "no name" devs notwithstanding
Ive been following the game for around a year and a half. It has incredible potential and they've already stated that it will be updated with new regions, weapons, enemy types, etc.
well people forget sometimes that there is a game doing this : THE DIVISION. You can go from a PVE / coop map to a PVPVE map with kind of an extraction system. When we see how extraction looters evolved it's not the same of course but you can see clearly the idea also.
communicating with the players is huge. It's one of the main reasons why I am looking forward to X Defiant's release. The entire process we have been kept in the loop of what's going on and the team has taken feedback and worked with it. If this game follows suit, then there's no reason for it to not do well. I hope they're able to deliver everything they promise because if they do, then that will make this game stand out so much, which will only draw more and more players to it.
Here you got devteam who shows an actual gameplays when they got something to show. Could be a crap, i'm 100% sure it will be downgraded by time, but comparing that to The Day Before where the game was rigged from the start and nobody in right mind was thinking about it as nothing more than suposor bait, this Pioner one could be an actual working game.
The standard is generally normalized pvp combat mechanics with perhaps loot-specific perks remaining active. I hadn't heard about the extraction shooter part of it until just now, but honestly it hypes me up even more. Literally the best time I've ever had in gaming was the Dark Zone in Division, with DMZ being some bungled rip-off that was done barely well enough to make the new CoD disasters playable. So hyped for this game, and already have about a half dozen people I intend to bully into picking it up with me if it delivers on this promise.
This is a game I want to succeed. Very hesitant as it's a huge undertaking and kind of reminds me of some games that flopped hard, typically from hacking and network issues.
So funny you say that. In My last video I played a bunch of games similar to MW3 zombies. The closest options you have are 1. Rainbow 6: Extraction 2. Helldivers 2 I played both games and som others in my last video if you want to see gameplay
The dopest shit is extraction shooters. For people like me that grew up wanting full loot PvP in MMOs but have all pretty much failed... I got that fix in extraction shooters which is perfect because I be a full loot PvP rat but don't have to waste my life away in an MMO. That's been a perfect balance for me but I also wouldn't mind this kind of mix either and I was lit about Pioner when I first heard about it but didn't think it was going to be this. Am I a little turned off by a PvE only zone? Yes but at the same time it's whatever .. as long as we have the right side of the island I'm good.
They don’t have to skill match if the level incentives don’t translate directly to PVP. Leveling could simply increase your efficiency in gathering, crafting, etc.
Very nice review bud. I play a lot of "survival apocalypse" games. This video got me interested. Albion online, a sand box fantasy mmo rpg game I play, has this sort of pve/pvp type zones, with gathering in certain pvp areas is the best tier, and you CAN port out "extract", or run to your safe city or island.. or hideout in the black zone. I really like this idea in a Stalker type mmo is gonna be pretty cool I think. I've been waiting for this sort game.
glad i subbed, honestly i never thought i needed a gaming news youtuber cuz usually when i watch a general video on the topic i already know about the games that would interest me, but ur 2/2 so far on new games i had no clue about but will now be keeping an eye on
Hopefully they follow through def interesting. Im dying for something other than tarkov and marauders and hunt. More stuff to put in the cycle works for me. That other extraction shooter coming i cant remember the name of looks awesome too.
Sheesh after seeing all the environments, levels, characters, cut-scenes, i really though this game was singleplayer story driven ! Now it's an MMO + Extraction mix.... ? Strange.. but interesting i guess? We'll see..
seems like stalker but with fallout 76 rpg questlines and dungeons and also planetside 2 clan system which is you can hold out a resource points for certain times with spice of extractions i see....
This is... ambitious. I really hope they don't succumb to the same fate as a lot of other AAA games, a vast ocean of mechanics that are as deep as a puddle. It looks promising, it seems like all the devs that worked on previous pre/post Soviet apocalypse survival shooters were interested in a multiplayer game instead of singleplayer.
Initially, the developers conceived this game differently, but when rich sponsors became interested in it, the studio had more funds, a larger team and more opportunities appeared, so the game was moved because they want to expand and improve it
Cant really compare it to the day bwfore (in the first minute) because it already has more gameplay shown to us than the amount of gameplay we were able to get out of the day before ourselves before we wanted those damn refunds.
Also, I definitely would hope for some sort of SBMM. I dont normally root for SBMM, but with the leveling and stuff, its going to be needed. At the very least, give a gear/mmo level range. It doesn't need to be skill based, rather level and gear based.
Also, I'm not a huge fan of the color pallet. Too much gray. I'm all for realism and maybe a dread feeling look, but man, the color tones are so unsaturated it just looks bland.
if it is well made and fun it will be one of best game of year for sure and maybe even rival tarkov mainly if they made well optimize game at which seems like it will be optimize but same time quistion gonna be how hp and damage will be handle with tier loot progress etc. and if it fun and well made for sure i gonna be playing it
it looks nice and it looks like it wont be a pc system hog, i like the fact that pvp and pve is split into zones and the idea of "dungeons" in a shooter really excite my rpg dungeon crawling instincts lol, BUUUUT as you said there are plenty of red flags, the biggest is the fact this is a studio ive never heard of and its their first game...
You say it's WWII weapons, but there's literally an AR-15 and AK-74SU in the game. It's not WWII, the Russians just tend to include several WWII SMGs and rifles because they're still in fairly common use today in countries that accepted Soviet weapons during the Cold War, Russia itself included. This makes sense since it's a Russian game and many Russian games tend to do this. Also Div1 and Div2 technically did the whole "PvE and PvP w/ Extraction" with the missions basically being dungeons. That said, I don't like Div2 and I wish there was a realism mode for Div1 that made the whole thing play much more like a tactical shooter (no bullet sponges, smarter AI that flanks instead of just beefier enemies, etc). I am looking forward to Pioner, mostly because I hope it scratches my STALKER/Metro 2033 itch that wants multiplayer tossed in there. I also hope humanoid enemies aren't massive bullet sponges.
Gotta stop comparing everything to the day before. We get it, anyone with half a brain always knew the game was gonna be shit , it was a blatant scam from the beginning
No offense dude but the dark zone in the division one already established that particular category. It was open world fairly large part of the city 24 players. It is possible to login and out right in the entryways enter the dark zone and never go anywhere else you can go in there and loot after killing critters completely build a complete gear set extract go in there and PVP all day long I’ve been saying for years we need a big gigantic open world With extraction functionality gear, that cannot be used until it’s been properly extracted and repaired or cleaned or whatever decontaminated with PVP content it doesn’t have to be the whole world. My outlook would be major City Hall or Hobbs, and the further you went away the more dangerous it gets until you get to the point where the things you pick up have to be extracted back to the city for whatever reason you don’t make up your own reason, in any case, the division one already did this in the dark zone and it was nearly perfect. They could’ve ripped the dark zone right out of the game made a standalone game through all the crafting benches in all the entryways or one and I mean you need multiple entryways and a couple of safe houses Just to make the game playable you would need a bigger map let you know 50 or 100 people going there and out all day long some of them trying to PK people who are farming some of them trying to survive while farming and some of them going around hunting. The people that are peeking the farmersout so fun, I mean the dark zone in the division one was the epitome of good PVP until you know it wasn’t when people started figuring out all the best ways to exploit bugs
Do not have light systems. They just have lots of players, multiple players in the world with you when you walk in that’s all I have had that’s the only element of an MMO. They do not have directions system or leveling systems or Luude RPG have all those things MMO‘s on the other hand just have multiple players in the world.
"heavily based in the ww2 era" *shows almost exclusively cold war era (soviet) weapons" was pretty much marketed as a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. inspired mmo. Also I think making it an extraction shooter may be a newer thing, probably trying to get in on the trend.
I'm afraid this is bad for me. Extraction shooter to me translates to "get sniped from a mile away by some asshole I never saw and had no intention of attacking" every 5 minutes.
Sure, it looks good but I'm not sure if I'm looking forward to playing Pioner. Even though "Road to Vostok" is nowhere near a release, it's a game I'm looking forward to even more.
My thoughts are - I’m tired of hearing “some time 2024-2025” after Day B4 scam we need something now to keep the genre fresh and moving in a positive direction.
What do you guys think ? Does this one have potential ?
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I'm not sure about a game that can't even spell it's title correctly lol. Pioner!?... Pioneer!
Yes!
cant wait!
Too much potential. Makes me want to puke that somebodys about to fumble this
i'm tired of the "new incredible extraction fps coming soon" who never release / are trash in the end tbh.
And it’s always on PC only.
I have to agree with this. This game did have potential until I found out what the gameplay was going to be. MMO survival shooters are mostly journeys through toxic socializing. Hard Pass on this...
Go be tired of it somewhere else then lol
why ? because i dont share your point of view ? nah i'm good, you can go tho@@nahCmeR
@@nahCmeR i have no dog in the race but i hate these replies. the comments are there for people to express their opinion. if you don't like that go somewhere else then lol
I knew this game had devs from Metro, the environment it self already reminded me of that game
I love the color palette and the look of the game. It's like a throwback to older games. I love it.
Yeah it has that good ol piss filter.
@@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalike the good old days 😂
@@Ricolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa we had brown, then we had piss filter, then we had blue/teal and then we ended up with 'cinematic' orange and teal side of things. we are truly living in a time of all time.
A lot of the mechanics and setup seem to draw heavily from the game Stalcraft; like almost exactly with some minor tweaks here and there (Not to mention a complete graphical overhaul). Which if that is the case I am excited for the game, as it does look like they are wanting to make a more polished version.
While I agree I believe they both started development around the same time stalcraft obv is much faster to make
@@nathandingy Stalcraft has been a thing for a decent amount of time, it just recently made its western debut, the Russian version has been out for quite a while and before that it was a Minecraft mod. Stalcraft had the luck of being built on top of something but it does severely limit the playerbase that is willing to check it out; not to mention the horror that is the character's faces.
@@ZBM2 ah that makes sense
@@ZBM2 Along with from what I hear the Russian version being fairly pay to win... however honestly some of the concepts for the core gameplay itself are actually quite good if you ask me. (Such as how world events work, and the gear barter system) Played it FAR too much these past couple months (actually taking a pause during the winter event since I'm not really interested in it though), and I'd love to see another game do something similar but do it even better. (and not pay to win preferably)
More likely from stalker. That's what stalcraft is based on.
To be fair, this game seem to have a LOT of work put into the environment, it's not just some default UE assets, but an actual art direction going on. Doesn't seem to be a cash grab, "no name" devs notwithstanding
Ive been following the game for around a year and a half. It has incredible potential and they've already stated that it will be updated with new regions, weapons, enemy types, etc.
Once human has a sort inventory button as well! Open your bag by pressing “i” and then press T
well people forget sometimes that there is a game doing this : THE DIVISION. You can go from a PVE / coop map to a PVPVE map with kind of an extraction system. When we see how extraction looters evolved it's not the same of course but you can see clearly the idea also.
communicating with the players is huge. It's one of the main reasons why I am looking forward to X Defiant's release. The entire process we have been kept in the loop of what's going on and the team has taken feedback and worked with it. If this game follows suit, then there's no reason for it to not do well. I hope they're able to deliver everything they promise because if they do, then that will make this game stand out so much, which will only draw more and more players to it.
This has some serious S.T.A.L.K.E.R. vibes.
Here you got devteam who shows an actual gameplays when they got something to show. Could be a crap, i'm 100% sure it will be downgraded by time, but comparing that to The Day Before where the game was rigged from the start and nobody in right mind was thinking about it as nothing more than suposor bait, this Pioner one could be an actual working game.
From the Art style alone, i knew it had to be some Atomic Heart & Metro devs working on this. Hope it delivers
The standard is generally normalized pvp combat mechanics with perhaps loot-specific perks remaining active.
I hadn't heard about the extraction shooter part of it until just now, but honestly it hypes me up even more. Literally the best time I've ever had in gaming was the Dark Zone in Division, with DMZ being some bungled rip-off that was done barely well enough to make the new CoD disasters playable.
So hyped for this game, and already have about a half dozen people I intend to bully into picking it up with me if it delivers on this promise.
Had my eyes on this one for a while. It's hard to get excited about games these days but im buying into the hype on this one.
Love the extraction genre... I guess I need to build a PC as it seems most of these games are either delayed coming to console or never make it there.
This is a game I want to succeed. Very hesitant as it's a huge undertaking and kind of reminds me of some games that flopped hard, typically from hacking and network issues.
Looking for something thats as similar to modern warfare 3 zombies as possible...any suggestions. I'm on ps5
So funny you say that. In My last video I played a bunch of games similar to MW3 zombies.
The closest options you have are
1. Rainbow 6: Extraction
2. Helldivers 2
I played both games and som others in my last video if you want to see gameplay
Is there any confirmation of when it will release this year?
This game is like The Division in terms of seperating PvP and PvPvE (Dark Zone). Will be quite interesting to see how this works for Pioneer
The dopest shit is extraction shooters. For people like me that grew up wanting full loot PvP in MMOs but have all pretty much failed... I got that fix in extraction shooters which is perfect because I be a full loot PvP rat but don't have to waste my life away in an MMO. That's been a perfect balance for me but I also wouldn't mind this kind of mix either and I was lit about Pioner when I first heard about it but didn't think it was going to be this. Am I a little turned off by a PvE only zone? Yes but at the same time it's whatever .. as long as we have the right side of the island I'm good.
i super agree with you! hope its cool
What games do you play that u csn recommend.
@player2gaming have you never played the Division? Dark zones act exactly like this so yes it has been done before
They don’t have to skill match if the level incentives don’t translate directly to PVP. Leveling could simply increase your efficiency in gathering, crafting, etc.
I checked their website does anyone know where this game is going to be sold?
This looks fantastic. Hopefully it lives up to it *crosses fingers*
Very nice review bud. I play a lot of "survival apocalypse" games. This video got me interested.
Albion online, a sand box fantasy mmo rpg game I play, has this sort of pve/pvp type zones, with gathering in certain pvp areas is the best tier, and you CAN port out "extract", or run to your safe city or island.. or hideout in the black zone. I really like this idea in a Stalker type mmo is gonna be pretty cool I think. I've been waiting for this sort game.
I mean the mechanics are pretty much the same as the division if you don't count the survival aspect. Which appears to be kinda limited anyway.
Yeah that was my thought the whole time was it sounds like the Division.
So the division scope but different gameplay? Sounds great.
The day before was just the icing on top of the gaming industry shit cake
Iv been checking in the game daily because it said it was going to release early December… obviously it isn’t but definitely has potential
GOD DANG, THERE'S ALOT OF COOL GAME THAT COMING OUT IN 2024
God this game gives me anthem vibes I don’t know how I feel about that
This is basically Albion online but a shooter!! YESSSSSS
I’ve had my eye on this game for a year or two kinda reminded me of open world stalker like game
i'd love to check out this game but i have no idea what the name of the game is?
The Hud and progression system looks uncannily like the Remnant games.
glad i subbed, honestly i never thought i needed a gaming news youtuber cuz usually when i watch a general video on the topic i already know about the games that would interest me, but ur 2/2 so far on new games i had no clue about but will now be keeping an eye on
Would it be possible for you to review Deadside again?
Literally just stalker but more and weirder. Can't wait!
where do we find this game?
Hopefully they follow through def interesting. Im dying for something other than tarkov and marauders and hunt. More stuff to put in the cycle works for me. That other extraction shooter coming i cant remember the name of looks awesome too.
Is this going to be on Steam? I just searched for it to wishlist, but I got nada
Es
Sheesh after seeing all the environments, levels, characters, cut-scenes, i really though this game was singleplayer story driven !
Now it's an MMO + Extraction mix.... ? Strange.. but interesting i guess? We'll see..
it sounds and looks amazing, if it really will be released i def. wil give it a tray
The looks like fallout 76 mixed with tarkov and hunt. Could be something very special. Movement and gunplay looks good too.
seems like stalker but with fallout 76 rpg questlines and dungeons and also planetside 2 clan system which is you can hold out a resource points for certain times with spice of extractions i see....
Looks great 👍..
I hope it delivers.. been looking for a game like this
Honestly grey zone is the game that has the most potential made by somebody that actually knows how to make a game and doesnt have a sketchy history.
Turned out bad though
Nice modern guns now this game got my attention
This is... ambitious. I really hope they don't succumb to the same fate as a lot of other AAA games, a vast ocean of mechanics that are as deep as a puddle. It looks promising, it seems like all the devs that worked on previous pre/post Soviet apocalypse survival shooters were interested in a multiplayer game instead of singleplayer.
How can I play is there a beta or something ?
4:13 it’s not a set bonus! It is a set that keeps you warm! This game looks like it will have weather and warmth systems!
Looks nothing like the day before. This is an extremely unique looking game while the day before was clearly an asset flip from the start.
Initially, the developers conceived this game differently, but when rich sponsors became interested in it, the studio had more funds, a larger team and more opportunities appeared, so the game was moved because they want to expand and improve it
Some of the UI elements/fonts remind me of Remnant 2
i remember watching that trailer, i miss E3..
You mentioned it was mostly ww2 guns?
Well stalcraft exists in the same category
The division is exactly like this bro lol but b regardless of that looks dope 🔥🔥
So the division?
Cant really compare it to the day bwfore (in the first minute) because it already has more gameplay shown to us than the amount of gameplay we were able to get out of the day before ourselves before we wanted those damn refunds.
While there is a lot to be skeptical about - I am all in on this. At least, the concept of it. Seems lile a really good mix of game style.
Also, I definitely would hope for some sort of SBMM. I dont normally root for SBMM, but with the leveling and stuff, its going to be needed. At the very least, give a gear/mmo level range. It doesn't need to be skill based, rather level and gear based.
Also, I'm not a huge fan of the color pallet. Too much gray. I'm all for realism and maybe a dread feeling look, but man, the color tones are so unsaturated it just looks bland.
if it is well made and fun it will be one of best game of year for sure and maybe even rival tarkov mainly if they made well optimize game at which seems like it will be optimize but same time quistion gonna be how hp and damage will be handle with tier loot progress etc. and if it fun and well made for sure i gonna be playing it
Doesn't this combination kinda sound like The Division, which was the birth of extraction shooters in a way.
After some thought yeah, it really does. Now in the exploring all the extraction shooter series I’m working on.. I want to go back into the dark zone
PVPVE open world extraction MMO FPS actually kind of describes The Division 1.
Possibly the division 2 its pve and has a pvp with loot extraction locations
This looks pretty cool
I miss the cycle frontier
this is like S.T.A.L.K.E.R but multiplayer
Don't hate the player (2) hate the game.
Funky looking game from the past.
it looks nice and it looks like it wont be a pc system hog, i like the fact that pvp and pve is split into zones and the idea of "dungeons" in a shooter really excite my rpg dungeon crawling instincts lol, BUUUUT as you said there are plenty of red flags, the biggest is the fact this is a studio ive never heard of and its their first game...
I'll believe it when I see it
Great ANOTHER extraction shooter.
You say it's WWII weapons, but there's literally an AR-15 and AK-74SU in the game. It's not WWII, the Russians just tend to include several WWII SMGs and rifles because they're still in fairly common use today in countries that accepted Soviet weapons during the Cold War, Russia itself included. This makes sense since it's a Russian game and many Russian games tend to do this.
Also Div1 and Div2 technically did the whole "PvE and PvP w/ Extraction" with the missions basically being dungeons. That said, I don't like Div2 and I wish there was a realism mode for Div1 that made the whole thing play much more like a tactical shooter (no bullet sponges, smarter AI that flanks instead of just beefier enemies, etc).
I am looking forward to Pioner, mostly because I hope it scratches my STALKER/Metro 2033 itch that wants multiplayer tossed in there. I also hope humanoid enemies aren't massive bullet sponges.
I get Metro vibes from this game
Damn..looks pretty though
Oh cool…. ANOTHER extract shooter….
I hope it's not the day after 2.0
Gotta stop comparing everything to the day before. We get it, anyone with half a brain always knew the game was gonna be shit , it was a blatant scam from the beginning
They defenitly dont need sbmm thats the big part of whats killing triple a titles like cod
Yeah, this went from a good idea, stalker like, to just trying to be the next tarkov. Find your own lane.
Huntshow Down PVE/ PVP extraction shooter?
looks that they have influenced from the Metro Exodus series
The first pvpve open world suvival MMO extraction shooter? mate doesn't know about star citizen :(
So it looks like cycle but metro. Got it
No offense dude but the dark zone in the division one already established that particular category. It was open world fairly large part of the city 24 players. It is possible to login and out right in the entryways enter the dark zone and never go anywhere else you can go in there and loot after killing critters completely build a complete gear set extract go in there and PVP all day long I’ve been saying for years we need a big gigantic open world With extraction functionality gear, that cannot be used until it’s been properly extracted and repaired or cleaned or whatever decontaminated with PVP content it doesn’t have to be the whole world. My outlook would be major City Hall or Hobbs, and the further you went away the more dangerous it gets until you get to the point where the things you pick up have to be extracted back to the city for whatever reason you don’t make up your own reason, in any case, the division one already did this in the dark zone and it was nearly perfect. They could’ve ripped the dark zone right out of the game made a standalone game through all the crafting benches in all the entryways or one and I mean you need multiple entryways and a couple of safe houses Just to make the game playable you would need a bigger map let you know 50 or 100 people going there and out all day long some of them trying to PK people who are farming some of them trying to survive while farming and some of them going around hunting. The people that are peeking the farmersout so fun, I mean the dark zone in the division one was the epitome of good PVP until you know it wasn’t when people started figuring out all the best ways to exploit bugs
The division sucked anus
Looks awesome
This looks legit.
If this game ends like the day before so god help me im gonna punch through a concrete wall so hard that i break my neck. Have a nice day.
Do not have light systems. They just have lots of players, multiple players in the world with you when you walk in that’s all I have had that’s the only element of an MMO. They do not have directions system or leveling systems or Luude RPG have all those things MMO‘s on the other hand just have multiple players in the world.
RIP Will to live online and Stay Out, finally, hopefully a better alternative
why did they spell pioneer wrong
"heavily based in the ww2 era" *shows almost exclusively cold war era (soviet) weapons" was pretty much marketed as a S.T.A.L.K.E.R. inspired mmo.
Also I think making it an extraction shooter may be a newer thing, probably trying to get in on the trend.
For whatever reason this game play looks like stalker 2 and it makes me think of the day before id say it looks interesting but sketchy
I hope it has many lootable things not like hunt more like tarkov
Days before 2.0?
I'm afraid this is bad for me. Extraction shooter to me translates to "get sniped from a mile away by some asshole I never saw and had no intention of attacking" every 5 minutes.
Sure, it looks good but I'm not sure if I'm looking forward to playing Pioner.
Even though "Road to Vostok" is nowhere near a release, it's a game I'm looking forward to even more.
bro I love DayZ mod. actually still enjoy standalone. I CANNOT STAND EXTRACTION SHOOTERS OMFG like were looting for the sake of looting is so dumb
Looks like the map from Arma
My thoughts are - I’m tired of hearing “some time 2024-2025” after Day B4 scam we need something now to keep the genre fresh and moving in a positive direction.