How to Beat the Elite 4 & Champion of Pokemon Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl

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  • Pokemon Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl have a very difficult Elite 4 and Champion, so I put together some tips and useful pokemon to help you beat the elite 4 and champion of Pokemon Brilliant Diamond & Shining Pearl
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  • @AustinJohnPlays
    @AustinJohnPlays  2 года назад +1302

    For every 1 Like on this video, 1 Bidoof gets to meme a Drifblim.

    • @daveydave9579
      @daveydave9579 2 года назад +32

      How do I hit like twice? 😂

    • @owenface8412
      @owenface8412 2 года назад +5

      I used tail glow acid armor surf dazzling gleam manaphy to sweep

    • @alexnabrynski527
      @alexnabrynski527 2 года назад +6

      You should make a guide to evolving feebas, I spent a couple hours making lvl dry poffins and it was not enough to evolve. Love your videos bro!

    • @princesoundwave
      @princesoundwave 2 года назад +2

      Yes

    • @andrewquinn4917
      @andrewquinn4917 2 года назад +11

      I don't normally hit the like button on videos
      but when I do
      It's for a good cause

  • @kellyhamilton9005
    @kellyhamilton9005 2 года назад +545

    I managed to win every battle in my play through without using items in battle, even elite 4 but stood no chance against Cynthia. I like how they made the champion actually good

    • @antoniomorales261
      @antoniomorales261 2 года назад +22

      Haha same here got to Cynthia got to her last Pokémon which was a roserade that just destroyed my torterra 😭 which was my last Pokémon

    • @tateniscool
      @tateniscool 2 года назад +40

      @@antoniomorales261 i think there was one more bro her last pokémon is a strong ass garchomp 😭😭

    • @Zyeike
      @Zyeike 2 года назад +17

      She's always been the best champion out of all of them including the ones that came after her

    • @AbsraktThinker
      @AbsraktThinker 2 года назад +7

      Me a casual player getting remastered by the 1 st gym

    • @thehamiltonshow
      @thehamiltonshow 2 года назад +9

      Cynthia was a great match. Took a few tries.

  • @Aaravosisawesome
    @Aaravosisawesome 2 года назад +2164

    I just used the power of friendship to have my enpoleon dodge like 5 attacks 😎

    • @macruz8503
      @macruz8503 2 года назад +9

      @zerval: What!? How is this done broskie?

    • @owenscorning7772
      @owenscorning7772 2 года назад +96

      @@macruz8503 when you walk with your pokemon or by taking them to amity square or certain items it will increase their affection which can make your pokemon do lots of stuff like dodge or live on 1 hp or hit crits

    • @hamzadesidragonsarwar
      @hamzadesidragonsarwar 2 года назад +74

      @@macruz8503 put them all in ball capsules they’ll literally fight like they do in the anime

    • @charizflosion2541
      @charizflosion2541 2 года назад +23

      Hey think you stole my Empoleon sir please return it(it dodged so many attacks that i would have lost to)

    • @charizflosion2541
      @charizflosion2541 2 года назад +55

      @@owenscorning7772 my Luxray on 1 hp that survive earthquake 3 time idk how that happen but i won and seems un fair to Cynthia

  • @Ssjangel3
    @Ssjangel3 2 года назад +267

    The way I beat Cynthia was making her use all her moves. I burned through so many options and revives. Basically let her struggle to death. It was glorious to witness

    • @luveazy9997
      @luveazy9997 2 года назад +7

      She isn’t all that lol I beat her without using potion or any items she was light work tbh

    • @igames8571
      @igames8571 2 года назад +12

      Honestly her Molotic was the hardest Pokémon for me. Garchomp wasn’t even hard compared to her Milotic

    • @ripmrkrabs6581
      @ripmrkrabs6581 2 года назад +8

      I was doing that until her garchomp started spamming swords dance. At that point I knew my time had come, then she one shotted my dialga

    • @luveazy9997
      @luveazy9997 2 года назад +3

      @ZamZK yeah lol, well that’s been my strategy since Pokémon black

    • @johnnysack3671
      @johnnysack3671 2 года назад +13

      @@luveazy9997 bro youre sick how do I get to be as dope as you one day

  • @tinthequeenMD
    @tinthequeenMD 2 года назад +445

    I’ve been playing Pokemon since I was a kid and I dont remember the elite four being this difficult, I actually just breeze through all of them. This is the most difficult elite four ever. I was having a rough time during the other elite four battles but Cynthia’s Garchomp always kills my whole party. I won by a fluke, just stalling Garchomp with Gyarados then Ice Beam for a finish

    • @brandonmorgan8975
      @brandonmorgan8975 2 года назад +15

      Same this is definitely the most difficult

    • @dragonk234
      @dragonk234 2 года назад +9

      I also just won with the broken friendship mechanic and my garchomp survived with 1 hp to finish off her garchomp

    • @Kazelegend
      @Kazelegend 2 года назад +2

      I’ve been having trouble with the elite 4 as well

    • @kevindenis9551
      @kevindenis9551 2 года назад +8

      I wonder what would happen if you get to the Garchomp and just use parish song, then hold out until it dies in three turns. If you have a full party still by then there’s nothing it can do at that point, lol. If they’re going to be this nasty, I say we should be nasty back.

    • @amateursloth6066
      @amateursloth6066 2 года назад +5

      TRICK ROOM IS THE ANSWER

  • @nejahrix4886
    @nejahrix4886 2 года назад +769

    This guy takes no days off. Great content man. Shows your dedication to the community. Appreciated

  • @PrinnyTheLamp
    @PrinnyTheLamp 2 года назад +289

    The amount of thought and detail that goes into Austin's new game guides is insane. His guides have been really helpful and everything he goes over and explains is completely legit. I recommend his other videos for anyone that needs any help with anything BDSP. His Spiritomb video was especially helpful. I wouldn't have been able to use one on my team without that video

    • @AlphaLykkan
      @AlphaLykkan 2 года назад

      Agreed there's no one better!!

    • @Fvck.comfort
      @Fvck.comfort 2 года назад

      Nah but like I can’t get through the stones slow enough to not jump all the way through , I’m tryna grab earthquake 😞

    • @pandaspinchgaming3968
      @pandaspinchgaming3968 2 года назад

      @@Fvck.comfort Use the D-pad Not The Circle Pad! That's What Helped Me!

  • @MisterReginald141
    @MisterReginald141 2 года назад +31

    "im just gonna grind the woman" "at least half an hour on her alone" - Austin John

  • @MrZrbrownie
    @MrZrbrownie 2 года назад +108

    I've never noticed a difference in difficulty between Set vs Switch battle style until this Elite Four, but Set against Cynthia was TOUGH. Great info as always.

    • @Momo-zi7sp
      @Momo-zi7sp 2 года назад +19

      Same. Played the whole game in set mode and it was an amazing experience.

    • @randomwestie9939
      @randomwestie9939 9 месяцев назад

      @@Momo-zi7sp what's set mode ?

    • @pikaman7715
      @pikaman7715 6 месяцев назад

      @@randomwestie9939 On set mode, the game does NOT git you the option to change Pokemon. It's on switch by default. So every time you KO a Pokemon, the game will ask if you want to switch Pokemon.

  • @averytubestudios
    @averytubestudios 2 года назад +248

    I crushed the E4 but Cynthia was HARD. It took me 4 attempts to beat her.

    • @PrincessArielAngel
      @PrincessArielAngel 2 года назад +13

      wow it only took me 2 lol i ended up using trick room and ice beaming the garchomp with my jynx lol

    • @averytubestudios
      @averytubestudios 2 года назад +12

      @@PrincessArielAngel The reason it took 4 was because I got awful luck.

    • @marlonj2697
      @marlonj2697 2 года назад +10

      On meee her milotic destroyed me😭

    • @eduardoharoproductions3065
      @eduardoharoproductions3065 2 года назад +16

      I just spammed x battle items on my pokemon... ik its cheap but i wanted to unlock post game

    • @timhiltz6323
      @timhiltz6323 2 года назад +3

      The elite was easy except Cynthia for me, her Milotic one shots my Torterra with ice beam and my Torterra is really high leveled. Milotic was marvel scale with flame orb.

  • @veliona8920
    @veliona8920 2 года назад +191

    I'll be completely honest here, I missed out on Pearl and Diamond when I was younger so I never got to play the originals. All I can say was that my team was not prepared to fight Cynthia and It was the first time that I got completely bodied by her Garchomp on multiple attempts. I actually had to take a break, go to the underground and get myself a Roserade for her Gastrodon. On the 4th attempt I was finally able to take out her Garchomp with what I had left. It definitely was probably the only time I felt any kind of a challenge in a Pokemon game lol. Thanks for this guide Austin.

    • @jazminnagy1619
      @jazminnagy1619 2 года назад +6

      Same here. Except my problem was her Lucario and Milotic. I managed to defeat her Garchomp in 2 hits from my Togekiss. When I was done, only my Togekiss was left of my team.

    • @ZeldaLover1031
      @ZeldaLover1031 2 года назад

      I swapped TMs of Brine and Grass Knot on my empoleon to get through the Flint and Gastrodon + most of Bertha’s Pokémon are heavy as hell.

    • @JoseGutierrez-jd8ss
      @JoseGutierrez-jd8ss 2 года назад

      I honestly hope it happens to me as well. Never played gen4, but I've read Cinthia was really hard back in the day and I would like it to be challenging 🤗

    • @vashi18
      @vashi18 2 года назад

      my first attempt i got all the way to garchomp and lost

    • @JoseGutierrez-jd8ss
      @JoseGutierrez-jd8ss 2 года назад

      @@vashi18 Same here. I almost died against the fire elite, and I died against Cinthia´s Garchomp :c

  • @FutureChris150
    @FutureChris150 2 года назад +52

    Pokemon bdsp is sadly the only pokemon game I've played so far. I got soooo excited when I beat the elite 4 cause i thought that was it😂 But then Blondy appeared and breezed through me like nothing. That Garchomp was pain
    Edit: Reading the comments. I feel better knowing Blondy is a pain for many people😂

    • @user-ye9bc7nw2c
      @user-ye9bc7nw2c 9 месяцев назад

      Blondy?

    • @soralockhart8428
      @soralockhart8428 5 месяцев назад +1

      Well, good thing in the new bdsp version, spiritomb is no long a nuisance

  • @TheAnalyticGengar
    @TheAnalyticGengar 2 года назад +33

    Another good set to run on Houndoom is Nasty Plot, Dark Pulse, Flamethrower, & Flame Charge. Mostly all level-up moves, and you can really take advantage of Spiritomb's move set to get 3x special attack and one Flame Charge in before she swaps out to Milotic for the type advantage. I put the Dark-type boosting glasses on Houndoom, and it was a quick sweep. Just use Flamethrower on Roserade and Dark Pulse on everything else for OHKO's. I didn't want to go the Garchomp route on my first playthrough, so it was a nice change of pace and a fun challenge!

  • @crimsonsteel4651
    @crimsonsteel4651 2 года назад +66

    Cynthia is the hardest champion I've ever beaten. My team was Empoleon,Houndoom,Luxray,Staraptor, Lucario and Kricketune. Needless to say Kricketune was easily crushed. I never used him in the original game and wanted a challenge.

    • @EagleZtoTheGrave
      @EagleZtoTheGrave 2 года назад +1

      Almost my exact team minus Krickitune lol But Im swapping out Luxray & Staraptor

    • @kimhomsma9442
      @kimhomsma9442 2 года назад +5

      Kricketunes only job is to setup a sticky web

    • @AdamKaiser.
      @AdamKaiser. 2 года назад +2

      I had a Kricketune at level 70 and it was very helpful it's a good Pokemon to use in this gen

    • @jasonyang867
      @jasonyang867 2 года назад +1

      These are easy! The thing is we can’t to be get full health on our Pokémon! As you choose right types, eat them down easily!

    • @sylvy.
      @sylvy. 2 года назад +1

      literally my team except the lucario and kricketune

  • @isaac08
    @isaac08 2 года назад +59

    Sniper doesn't increase crit rates, it boosts the power of crits.

    • @Horacioalmazan0981
      @Horacioalmazan0981 2 года назад +9

      That's why drapion did so much damage 👁️👄👁️

    • @gryphon4150
      @gryphon4150 2 года назад +1

      Yeah and considering that 3 of his four moves have high crit rate combined with an item that boosts crit rate even more, he's critting almost every time and for 2/3rds, if not all your health.

    • @bertTheGod
      @bertTheGod 2 года назад +1

      @@gryphon4150 my favorite sniper is Intellion, use focus energy with a lens , Surf one shots EVERYTHING

  • @brandonbaggaley2317
    @brandonbaggaley2317 2 года назад +42

    I have an interesting story dealing with beating Cynthia in Shining Pearl. Cynthia was down to just her Garchomp and I had a Gardevoir out with Infernape and a Garchomp of my own still alive in my party. Cynthia’s Garchomp used Poison Jab and poisoned my Gardevoir, but Gardevoir’s Synchronize ability caused Cynthia’s Garchomp to be poisoned before Gardevoir used Dazzling Gleam to get the Garchomp in the red. The Garchomp took the poison damage first and fainted right before Gardevoir did.

  • @bhillson
    @bhillson 2 года назад +4

    Thank you, took a while getting the team and tms, and then leveling them up, a few wipes but I finally got through it

  • @masterwings50
    @masterwings50 2 года назад +109

    Basically me:
    Beats every gym leader with insane ease
    Decides to avoid trainers on the way through victory road
    Decides not to stack up on heals and revives
    Barely got through elite 4
    Cythnia’s moltic and gastrodon stalled out my team and i lose
    Goes back and fight every trainer on every route
    Cheese Cynthia

    • @Tarxzn
      @Tarxzn 2 года назад +2

      Saaaaaaame!

    • @Missigno213
      @Missigno213 2 года назад +14

      I legit had so much fun with the challenege they provided since the gym leaders were mostly fodder. I was so overconfident and i got my ass handed to me

    • @gray1544
      @gray1544 2 года назад +2

      That’s why i always fight every trainer

    • @donwanacu
      @donwanacu Месяц назад

      Lol ya I’m learning this the hard way right now. Got to the psychic trainer in the elite 4 and got my butt handed to me.

  • @ztrixx3787
    @ztrixx3787 2 года назад +60

    A tip for those struggling with mainly cynthias garchomp, if you stock up on loads of revives and have atleast one min with intimidate (staraptor or luxray mainly) you can repeatedly revive two of your Pokémon and intimidating the garchomp until his attacks do no damage. A lot of work but if your really struggling with garchomp and don’t feel like catching a hard counter and leveling it all the way up this method works

    • @Erik-uo1cx
      @Erik-uo1cx 2 года назад +7

      OR just get your self a level 50-60 Swinub in the grand underground teach it ice shard and let big Mamoswine handle that demon

    • @Eulogizes
      @Eulogizes 2 года назад +1

      Legit just did that, but that Garchomp knows Swords Dance lmao

    • @EpicTacoSenpai
      @EpicTacoSenpai 2 года назад +1

      @@Erik-uo1cx i hear this everywhewre. it this point its pretty cheap. i feel the first time beatin cynthia should be to your liking. i mean thats the play am i right. i mean unless you like mamoswine then those people are set

    • @Erik-uo1cx
      @Erik-uo1cx 2 года назад +3

      @@EpicTacoSenpai you have a problem with my method yet you don’t have a problem with someone pp stalling or using 20 freaking intimidates I didn’t look up how to beat garchomp I just thought mamoswine would be a ez way of beating it stop hating

    • @GoonieLord
      @GoonieLord 2 года назад

      I've got a level 59 Garchomp to battle her Garchomp. Use Sandstorm and the Sand Veil then strike with Outrage

  • @DarkhalfBreed
    @DarkhalfBreed 2 года назад +32

    This fight was hard, but the garchomp was the least of my worries after an icebeam with my lv70 piplup(I never took them out of my party so they were like 5-7 levels ahead of the test of my team)

    • @Algorithm.0
      @Algorithm.0 6 месяцев назад +1

      Just say empoleon😭😭😭

    • @AlienAmongst
      @AlienAmongst 5 месяцев назад +1

      Maybe he cancelled the evolutions ever thought of that? Besides that comment is 2 yr old man@@Algorithm.0

  • @AviusL
    @AviusL 2 года назад +3

    This video more than anything taught me that you can heal and use potions mid battle!! D: I made it up to the 4th elite guy on my random team going in blind and died to their last Pokémon. After watching this and all the preparations you did I don't feel as bad. Now onto my 2nd attempt after preparing a little. Great videos. I've watched quite a few of them whilst working on finishing my Sinnoh Dex :)

  • @rynmilton
    @rynmilton 2 года назад +93

    You know it’s difficult when Austin John Plays makes a video on it. Love the videos man, keep it coming!

  • @Snorlaxativ3
    @Snorlaxativ3 2 года назад +94

    This is so much better than my strategy, I ended up pp stalling out hatching by constantly switching Mr. Mime and staraptor so she would spam earthquake and dragon claw on those two while I switched into the immunities

    • @Kleptodismal
      @Kleptodismal 2 года назад +1

      That’s actually hilarious. I didn’t even think of that

    • @noyew2325
      @noyew2325 2 года назад +6

      That’s exactly what I did. The battle lasted nearly an hour

    • @BladeVoltz
      @BladeVoltz 2 года назад +5

      That's what I kinda did, but I had staraptor and luxray and kept swapping/reviving them so they could debuff her garchomp with intimidate. She ran out of earthquake then I brought out my weavile and used avalanche to one shot it as her garchomp would always strike first and avalanche does double the damage if the user is hit first

  • @solarflayer5833
    @solarflayer5833 2 года назад +5

    Thank you so much, its insane how strong the elite 4 and champion were! I love it!

  • @markdewaard7000
    @markdewaard7000 2 года назад +3

    Man this was tough. I was a bit underleveled. The only way I was able to beat Cynthia was by using a ton of revives until Garchomp was out of attacking moves (except Poison Jab). After that, Empoleon made short work of him. I really needed your guide for this elite four. Thanks Austin!

  • @shinyhunter110
    @shinyhunter110 2 года назад +46

    I didn’t think I’d want this game and told myself I was gonna get it later (because I played the originals as a kid and preferred platinum and it’s a “faithful remake”), but now hearing about the competitive mons IN THE STORY and the new underground system got me so hyped that I actually ordered the double pack of brilliant diamond and shining pearl together yesterday on Amazon and I should get it at the earliest by next Monday 😁👍🏻

  • @joshgraves2409
    @joshgraves2409 2 года назад +131

    My battle with Cynthia lasted like 45 minutes, was a struggle.

    • @ernestochuc2647
      @ernestochuc2647 2 года назад +9

      I can relate my Gastrodon using recover every 2 turns while i was healing the rest of the team, of course in order to do this had to beat roserade first 💀

    • @kimhomsma9442
      @kimhomsma9442 2 года назад +3

      I litterally waited until mylotic didn't have any damaging moves just to set up agility + nasty plot on my girafirag so I could 2 shot garchomp

    • @jekytck
      @jekytck 2 года назад +2

      "struggle", was that a reference?

    • @skylight9491
      @skylight9491 2 года назад +4

      I had to teach my luxray thief so the flame orb couldn’t activate

    • @devenderg1958
      @devenderg1958 2 года назад

      @@ernestochuc2647 I destroyed Cynthia

  • @PIR4TE_KING
    @PIR4TE_KING 2 года назад +13

    Thank you for everything you do for the Pokemon Community. This video helped me beat the Elite 4 on my second try!
    We appreciate what you do :)
    (Just got a new sub)

  • @SilentEmoGamerGurl94
    @SilentEmoGamerGurl94 2 года назад +3

    A huge thank you to you dude. I spent 4 days strategizing with my partner and thanks to this video, I beat the E4 and Cynthia. Easily the hardest Pokémon game I’ve ever played. My partner suggested I get a Dialga tattoo using Roar of Time cause it survived on 1 HP. Thank you thank you thank you 🙏 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @fivestringpat
    @fivestringpat 2 года назад +59

    Seeing how serious they made the elite four makes me want this game now!

    • @MrHenry756
      @MrHenry756 2 года назад +4

      Same

    • @Tomate-nf6yc
      @Tomate-nf6yc 2 года назад +7

      Bro I played the originals and this was harder. Since the exp share I thought ohh well just have a normal and my god did that backfired lol. I played comp online so I actually had to go and catch certain mons and give certain mon certain movesets just to beat Cynthia and let’s not talk about the post game rematches.

    • @pandaspinchgaming3968
      @pandaspinchgaming3968 2 года назад

      @@Tomate-nf6yc Yeah I Played The Originals But This, Scares Me.....

    • @julicat444
      @julicat444 2 года назад +1

      it’s no joke. i lose to the damn garchomp every time

  • @malloryballenger8247
    @malloryballenger8247 2 года назад +19

    If you’re desperate to get past Garchomp (like I was) I stalled out her Earthquakes and Dragon Claws using revives/full restores until she could only attack with poison jab which has no effect on Diagla. Then I was able to one hit KO with roar of time.

    • @calamityganon8114
      @calamityganon8114 2 года назад +2

      I did this except I swapped between 2 Pokémon with intimidate so start 6 turns the garchomp only had 1/4 of its original attack

  • @malikgriffin5470
    @malikgriffin5470 2 года назад +5

    Thank you for this video John!! I've currently lost to Cynthia 3 times already lol she is a freaking beast but i have been trying to go about it the honest way.. no potions... & no pre switch. This video now doesn't make me feel bad about cheesing lol her competitive trained poke put us at an supreme disadvantage. I went into the last matchup with all my mons at lvl 66 & lucario wrecked most my team Garchomp however is another problem lol

  • @minertwinsilver6185
    @minertwinsilver6185 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for making this video, I’m using the tips and tricks I’ve Learned while also adding some creativity with my Pokémon team for the elite 4. 😁😊😊

  • @rustedpig97
    @rustedpig97 2 года назад +84

    This elite 4/champion combo is by far the hardest ever. I nuzlocked the game and got to Cynthia with only 2 mons left. I decided to retry with my full team and lost to Cynthia’s Garchomp. The third try my final Pokémon lived on 1 HP against Cynthia’s Garchomp and I won. I genuinely haven’t felt so satisfied completing a game before. They did a great job.

    • @rok8204
      @rok8204 2 года назад +1

      are you gonna re-try the nuzlocke?

    • @rustedpig97
      @rustedpig97 2 года назад +1

      @@rok8204 I definitely will but I plan on doing post game stuff first

    • @phoenixburns79
      @phoenixburns79 2 года назад +1

      @@duncandonuts1600 that's the most terrifying thought I've had in a while....

    • @Relatablename
      @Relatablename 2 года назад +1

      Why is it called nuzlocke anyways?

    • @Relatablename
      @Relatablename 2 года назад

      @@duncandonuts1600 Ah awesome, very cool. Are you 5g? Because I'm feeling brainwashed by you.

  • @312348
    @312348 2 года назад +31

    It took me three tries to beat Cynthia. The first time, it was a legitimate tie, my Staraptor (which was my last Pokemon) took out her Garchomp (also her last) but it’s rough skin brought me down with it. 😭 the second time I just completely screwed up and she beat me fair and square. Finally the third time I was able to beat her and still had half of my team in fighting condition.
    Needless to say, I was not disappointed in this battle! My Pokémon were at around the same level as hers, so it was a fun challenge. I don’t remember her being this difficult for me personally (I know a lot of people suffered) in the original Diamond and Pearl… and none of the other champions have ever really been a challenge at all. Most recently, Leon was a joke. But Cynthia actually defines what a champion battle is supposed to be like.

    • @iTzPiffles
      @iTzPiffles 2 года назад

      The only main issue I've had is spiritomb

    • @gus7807
      @gus7807 2 года назад

      @@iTzPiffles mine is milotic

  • @ArticusofSabatour5464
    @ArticusofSabatour5464 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for making this video. I just beat Cynthia after 6 tries, by following your advice and because my Palkia lived on 1 hp.

  • @mikecambell4772
    @mikecambell4772 2 года назад

    honestly always thought this was austin st john the red ranger plays lol . but started watching your videos and became a subscriber thank you for showing us these walkthroughs and u do an excellent job

  • @SnapKrakenPop
    @SnapKrakenPop 2 года назад +4

    Cynthia/Sinnoh E4 was hard for me as a kid and I’d NEVER experienced anything like it - my friend had to trade me some Pokémon to help out! I’m glad they were able to replicate that feeling for returning and newer players alike :’)

  • @jdude759
    @jdude759 2 года назад +8

    Stealth rocks was ironically the strat I used myself on my play through. No healing and set battle style was fun. Almost losing to the garchomp was quite unnerving, but outspeeding it with a timid alakazam to win it was quite an awesome ending. (Next time I’m doing ev training lol)

  • @BenjaminDenverstone
    @BenjaminDenverstone 2 года назад +1

    This should help me when I get there myself. I'm still playing a little slow so I'm only on my second gym. Thanks for these videos!

  • @aneleganthobo2715
    @aneleganthobo2715 2 года назад +26

    I beat the elite 4 on my first attempt before viewing this video. I had to scum heal a couple times, but my alakazam and torterra were amazing in many of the battles. I was even a little under leveled, but up until Cynthia there wasn't much of a challenge.

    • @victorowen2592
      @victorowen2592 2 года назад +1

      Same here smh

    • @robert907
      @robert907 2 года назад +1

      I wish could get Alakazam without having to trade (not paying the Nintendo switch online just to trade)

    • @RunBoy
      @RunBoy 2 года назад

      @@robert907 actually there is a girl in some city that is willing to exchange an abra for something else. If you really want one ...

    • @robert907
      @robert907 2 года назад

      @@RunBoy a machamp, but Kadabra itself has to be traded to get alakazam

    • @Mrbigmike311
      @Mrbigmike311 2 года назад

      Yea because tottera doesn’t care about earthquake and since grass is strong against that is pretty ez

  • @greme5849
    @greme5849 2 года назад +18

    OMG thank you Austin, I couldn’t do it without you, your such a legend. Keep it up.

  • @TheVaultNerd
    @TheVaultNerd 2 года назад +6

    8:08 Giga Drain is on route 209 by the way not 205, for the people that got confused. Pretty sure he just misspoke and didn't catch it in editing.

  • @kevinharrison2186
    @kevinharrison2186 2 года назад +2

    Thank you for this video. One change I made is using Luxray instead of Bidoof. Not worried about the meme, but using Snarl on Luxray helped to lower the defenses of Cynthia's Pokemon. Also, I got extremely lucky and my Rosaraid held on after 2 Earthquakes so I could get off 2 Dazzling Gleams for the KO on Cynthia's Garchomp. Love your videos.

  • @deceivingcomet
    @deceivingcomet 2 года назад

    I am forever in your debt, thank you for being so helpful. My first time challenging the elite four I beat everyone then I got to Cynthia and killed all her Pokémon, but then I got to Garchomp and got obliterated. Second time around I leveled up the hell out of my Pokémon and used the cheese strat for Cynthia and it was over. Again thanks for being so helpful.

  • @thedapperbear5354
    @thedapperbear5354 2 года назад +13

    Your videos have made the BDSP release so much fun! I had missed this type of coverage and guides over a Pokemon game!
    Im definitely going to do the E4 on set and no items besides held. E4 looks to be really fun!

    • @rok8204
      @rok8204 2 года назад +2

      I think set mode and no items besides held is the way to go!

    • @nomadsm8458
      @nomadsm8458 2 года назад +1

      I played through set and no items beside held and cant recommend it enough. Made the game extremely fun and challenging.

    • @pandaspinchgaming3968
      @pandaspinchgaming3968 2 года назад +1

      @@nomadsm8458 About That I Got CRUSHED

    • @nomadsm8458
      @nomadsm8458 2 года назад

      @@pandaspinchgaming3968 hahaha so did I and I was happy about it

  • @sp3lllz
    @sp3lllz 2 года назад +54

    Perfect timing I just defeated the elite four but I’ve been struggling with Cynthia a lot and I’ve just been grinding for the last two hours to hopefully just brute force my way through

    • @jordencoles5313
      @jordencoles5313 2 года назад +1

      I m planning a Garchomp vs Garchomp battle

  • @zzzrowlet
    @zzzrowlet 2 года назад +3

    I love how you mention heracross and steelix being op but when I battled them I was able to get crit one shots

  • @darthsid6855
    @darthsid6855 Год назад +2

    Thank you very much, I fought Cynthia three times! The first time I didn't even get to her Lucario and the second and third time her Garchomp just oblirated my team

  • @fdatab9314
    @fdatab9314 2 года назад +39

    Great job as always! Btw, a Blissey with Calm Mind, Thunderbolt, Ice Beam and Dazzling Gleam makes Cynthia a breeze.
    Setup 4 Calm Minds on Spiritomb (it tried to sucker punch) and had a bit of quick claw luck on her Garchomp. But reliably beat 5 out of 6 of her mons no sweat with that set.

    • @dr.frostii7099
      @dr.frostii7099 2 года назад

      just be careful with physical attackers

    • @grapejuice6604
      @grapejuice6604 2 года назад

      quick claw proccing on garchomp seems kinda clutch

  • @skylar.mp3
    @skylar.mp3 2 года назад +5

    what a odd coincidence, was about to get ready for it. thanks for the guide!

  • @Bruh-ff2tw
    @Bruh-ff2tw 2 года назад +60

    Holy cow. I always new that the Sinoh elite 4 and champion were tough, but this is something else. I really hope that they keep this up with the next games. The elite 4 and champion are the elite 4 and champion for a reason, they should be challenging, not a walk over.

    • @SlimDaSavage
      @SlimDaSavage 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah hate to break it to ya, but we got Geeta 😂 arguably the easiest champion ever.

  • @hoodedfigure7557
    @hoodedfigure7557 2 года назад +2

    That x strat was disgusting… I love it! Thanks so much for helping me be the champion!

  • @aarinbothra600
    @aarinbothra600 2 года назад +7

    Great guide Austin! And I think the best Pokémon for Cynthia is Houndoom with flamethrower and destiny bond. Using flamethrower it can annihilate Lucario and Roserade and then for Garchomp, if you give houndoom a focus sash or have it’s friendship maxed out (so that it can survive a k.o) then you can use destiny bond to kill it! The move is so OP!

    • @sylvy.
      @sylvy. 2 года назад

      im gonna try this now

  • @slackerofhell
    @slackerofhell 2 года назад +8

    I remember playing Pearl and eventually Platinum and her Spiritomb whooped me because I hadn't seen one before and didn't know its typing. Once I got past Spiritomb and crushed everything else, I got annihilated by her Garchomp. But, even though she was tough, it felt like the most rewarding battle in Pokemon ever! For me at least. Blue isn't far behind, either.

  • @heypollard
    @heypollard 2 года назад +44

    I did it in my first try but Cynthia had me on the brink. Two fainted, three in the red and my Infernape landed a crit on Garchomp to end it. All my team was level 67 entering the battle, started elite 4 at 65-66. Most challenging ending in a Pokémon game for sure! Loved it!

    • @soappacket2342
      @soappacket2342 2 года назад +1

      Yes I also beat it on my first try, but the power of friendship helped me more than once!

    • @blvck1635
      @blvck1635 2 года назад

      Dude my first fight with Cynthia was epic. I haven’t beaten her yet, but we straight up went down to the wire, came down to the last hit with her Garchomp and my Infernape and he took and earthquake for me but couldn’t KO with close combat and garchomp’s rough skin took him out lol

  • @montycoble964
    @montycoble964 2 года назад

    Omg thank you for the advice was doing a mew only run and losing my mind. Hate using the battle items but I did it and cheesed it up!!!

  • @nakano8412
    @nakano8412 2 года назад +15

    I struggled so much at Cynthia, managed to eventually beat her with a sp def item and went to +6 swords dance on my gligar, against Garchomp my own Garchomp lived on one, had only a Pachirisu left after the battle.

    • @gamingwithjoker393
      @gamingwithjoker393 2 года назад

      I am struggling rn with Cynthia that’s why I came to this video Garchomp the last Pokémon just screws me ovee

  • @sirkentc
    @sirkentc 2 года назад +10

    I think this is the first game that forced me to use X items. But, I really enjoy the battles that they give to us. I hope they will keep giving us challenges like this in the future games.

  • @brenttakesphotos
    @brenttakesphotos 2 года назад

    Thank you for the guide! Seriously, THANK YOU.

  • @gamesring8975
    @gamesring8975 2 года назад

    I didn’t get to play the originals of these two games. So I’m very excited to play theses with my kids 🥰 thanks so much for the great videos very helpful 👍👍

  • @royorbyson6224
    @royorbyson6224 2 года назад +14

    I felt over leveled the entire game...until the Elite Four. Refreshing to see their teams more competitive!! Cynthia's Garchomp swept my whole team first go. Went back in with Mamoswine and Togekiss and swept the lot of them!!!
    Great info, as always!! Keep up the grind, my Dude!!

    • @bennytdi
      @bennytdi 2 года назад +1

      I beat the elite 4 with 2 pokemon...

    • @_aceofspades
      @_aceofspades 2 года назад

      @@bennytdi teach me your ways

  • @Mangoscats
    @Mangoscats 2 года назад +32

    Perfect timing as I’m stuck on Cynthia for quite a while like a day and a half like 5-6 runs

    • @PrincessArielAngel
      @PrincessArielAngel 2 года назад +3

      aww man my advice is actually what i ended up doing to win the second time around was trick room!! Trick room and you outspeed even garchomp so u can nail a ice beam :)

    • @hordelovebloodelf
      @hordelovebloodelf 2 года назад

      if u level ur team to 70 tis easy lol

    • @l.a6273
      @l.a6273 2 года назад

      Get gengar and get destiny bond

    • @kuroneko8343
      @kuroneko8343 2 года назад

      You should have Diagla right?
      I barely did any grinding and used Diagla who MVPed through. Esp. useful for the Garchomp cos you can one shot with roar of time. Some people consider it cheating to use Diagla but if you catch it without the master ball you earnt the right imo

    • @kuroneko8343
      @kuroneko8343 2 года назад

      @@hordelovebloodelf But
      t its boring when you over level tho. I purposely didn't grind for the challenge and it was way more fun compared to demolishing the gym leaders.

  • @jasonpinc3
    @jasonpinc3 Год назад

    Thank to this video i went one time through (barely). Love all you videos on the games. Just got back into console pokemon after not playing any since lets go eevee.

  • @senor_potter
    @senor_potter Год назад

    I used that cheese way you showed, THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I was tired of going all the way to the champ and then losing on her garchomp 😭😭😭 you're the best!!!

  • @xsupra_
    @xsupra_ 2 года назад +5

    The amount of revives I used during Cynthia’s Gachomp took me so long. Had to keep using it until it pretty much used all its PP

  • @thecatman9030
    @thecatman9030 2 года назад +5

    Austin: *Stealth Rock*
    Roark hiding in the background: I’m so proud.. TuT

  • @axelkyara5446
    @axelkyara5446 2 года назад

    Thanks Man! You really helped me get past the EliteFour!!😁 BUT NOW, its Cynthia's Turn🐉

  • @danielvidal46
    @danielvidal46 2 года назад

    Thanks for this video. My original team was not working! But after watching this I finally beat it

  • @tornadey018
    @tornadey018 2 года назад +11

    Rock head protects from recoil damage, that's why sudowoodo has recoil moves.

  • @reversal
    @reversal 2 года назад +184

    How to beat them?
    Just win lmao

    • @kristopherwillis8075
      @kristopherwillis8075 2 года назад +3

      Words of Wisdom 🙏🏿

    • @kozmikarp6637
      @kozmikarp6637 2 года назад

      A verified RUclips with a comment that only has 35 likes? Kinda wierd ngl

    • @AustinJohnPlays
      @AustinJohnPlays  2 года назад +37

      “We’ll did you try gittin guud?”

    • @pandaspinchgaming3968
      @pandaspinchgaming3968 2 года назад +2

      @@AustinJohnPlays Well, Yes I Swept The Floor With Cynthia, I even out-sped and one-shot her Garchomp with my Garchomp

  • @cityslicks1520
    @cityslicks1520 2 года назад +10

    You should make an EV training guide for BDSP! Also, it would be super helpful to see the EV setup for each poke.

    • @jameshall2017
      @jameshall2017 2 года назад +1

      no need for an EV training guide when you can max out Ev's using the vitamins. Most recommended EV spreads I've seen are on smogon under diamond and pearl. Thats all I used for my mons except torterra which i tweaked it a little for torterra and still sweeps the first 21 fights easily in the battle tower

  • @unplayednamer0165
    @unplayednamer0165 2 года назад +1

    Well, I really should start to safe manually. I just ran into the Champ with five dead Pokémon xD So thanks for reminding me of it again!

  • @Deadman3350
    @Deadman3350 2 года назад +7

    I just beat the elite 4 and Cynthia on my first attempt. The elite 4 weren’t too bad cause all my Pokémon were lvl 60 and up but Cynthia was tough. It came down to luck with my Manaphy vs her Garchomp. Thank god for high friendship

  • @miladymidara2449
    @miladymidara2449 2 года назад +1

    Your intro about never covering a how to video on the elite four on other games but feeling bdsp deserves a video: I lost to Cynthia FOUR TIMES before finally scraping by on my first play through. May I mention that I’ve played every single Pokémon game and haven’t lost to the elite four/champion on any game since the first game I played (yellow) before I knew much about Pokémon 😂🤣 may I say it was kinda fun since I haven’t been challenged in a Pokémon game in YEARS, but this game’s elite four is BRUTAL!!!

  • @stefanli6700
    @stefanli6700 2 года назад +1

    With how cheap the good TMs are (tbolt/ice beam/swords dance), it’s pretty easy to get good coverage. Intimidate cycling with voltturn (staraptor+luxray for me) plus lots of set up (swords dance/nasty plot/work up/tail glow). It was pretty easy for me to find opportunities to set up and sweep and beat the elite4 without cheesing. But boy, this is the first time I had to think of a legitimate competitive strategy in game.

  • @thenerdbeast7375
    @thenerdbeast7375 2 года назад +20

    Cynthia's Garchomp is why I chose Floatzel as my water type; it is one of the few Pokémon in the region that has higher base speed than Garchomp, has decent stats and has both special and physical ice coverage options depending on how you want to train it.

    • @ultmewtwo
      @ultmewtwo 2 года назад

      It will not matter when you can just level up any other water type to be higher level then grachomp

    • @forthe3136
      @forthe3136 2 года назад +3

      Gyrados with dragon dance set ups and ice fang or avalanche is also a good way to handle garchomp

    • @HarmonicDX
      @HarmonicDX 2 года назад

      @@forthe3136 may even be a better way lol

    • @Purpose_Porpoise
      @Purpose_Porpoise 2 года назад

      Adamant mamo ice shard with a boosting item is a really solid choice, too. It's what I used to beat her in my hardcore Pt playthrough, and it's what I'll use in my HC BD playthrough.

    • @GoldenWind30
      @GoldenWind30 2 года назад

      I’m using a Floatzel too! Did you beat Garchomp with it?

  • @maetheunicorn81
    @maetheunicorn81 2 года назад +30

    "I'm gonna grind the woman" oh
    "over and over and over and over" oh no
    "I'm gonna be here a while, at least half an hour on her alone" *AUSTIN NO*

  • @lampdisease
    @lampdisease 2 года назад +9

    EDIT: The previous version of this comment did not account for Garchomp's Yache Berry. You will actually need to Dragon Dance 6 times.
    Hi, I’d like to offer my tip! If you’re struggling with Cynthia, I recommend Gyarados. It learns both Ice Fang and Dragon Dance by leveling up. The other two moves are a matter of personal preference, but you want something that Milotic doesn’t resist. The strategy is to set up Dragon Dance to increase your attack and speed while Milotic is out, since it can’t knock out even a minimum Special Defense Gyarados at level 60 in less than four hits. Six Dragon Dances will allow even a minimum attack Gyarados (still lv 60) to outspeed and oneshot Garchomp with Ice Fang 94% of the time. The drawback to this strategy is that Ice Fang is only 95% accurate. It missed on my first attempt and Garchomp proceeded to wreck me from there. Anyways, hope this helps!

    • @lampdisease
      @lampdisease 2 года назад

      ​@@Irn0x It does not-- I've been meaning to edit this to reflect that. Thank you for reminding me!

  • @CormacSketches
    @CormacSketches 2 года назад +1

    I got caught off guard by Drapion. First time I’ve lost against an elite four since probably the original Diamond and Pearl. Cynthia was harder than I remember too, I had to multi intimidate her Garchomp with a few revives and then send out Manaphy for the ice beam kill, then the yache berry took me by surprise!

  • @Sam20309
    @Sam20309 2 года назад +4

    While I’m not gonna be using this guide for a while because I’m shiny hunting Dialga (currently at 300 resets) this will be super helpful, I like seeing them make the elite four harder. Also the elite four in the post-game have different teams which are better e.g Aaron drops beautifly and dustox for scizor and yanmega I believe.

  • @AmberOrzhov
    @AmberOrzhov 2 года назад +19

    I love the ability they added to buy ice beam flamethrower and thunderbolt. Such good moves for such a low price

  • @dietrickdavis417
    @dietrickdavis417 2 года назад

    Well John at 9:15 until 9:44 sounds like me on a Saturday night 😎

  • @brendanwilliams2661
    @brendanwilliams2661 2 года назад

    Excellent video, which route is the old couple on that you used for grinding attack and sp. attack EV.

  • @rpgrogerplaysgames521
    @rpgrogerplaysgames521 2 года назад +24

    I just beat the E4 for the first time with these remakes, and I have to 100% agree. This E4 challenge takes no prisoners.
    I walked into the E4 with a team composed of Lv 63-65 Pokemon. By Cynthia my team was all 65 except my starter Torterra who was lv 66.
    Item-wise I was restricting myself to the same item uses as the E4 was following, that being two Full Restores, and only one can be used on each pokemon. At least that's what it seemed to me.
    Let me tell you... She was taking no prisoners. In the end after I finally beat her Garchomp I was telling her that she should rename that freaking thing Satan or 666, or something along those lines. It had taken out my own Garchomp, Gallade, Lopunny (who was using Charm as much as it could before it fell), and was finally taken out by my Torterra which she had used a Full Restore to heal the first turn my Torterra was out. In the end it took two earthquakes and a Wood Hammer when I wasn't confident that a 3rd EQ would be enough to KO.
    In total she had KO'd 4 of my Pokemon. Luxray fell first before her Garchomp came out. Then that beast nearly clean sweeped me. If she had gotten a crit at all against my Torterra then she would have been able to take out my last pokemon, a Honchkrow, no problem.
    All-in-all, I believe that they did a really good job making this Elite 4 and Champion feel like truly elite trainers. I just received my National Pokedex a few hours ago and am making definite plans to get everything I need to breed up a proper team so that I can have fun challenging them again without just over-leveling to overpower them in both of the rematches.

    • @kurapikafreecs1464
      @kurapikafreecs1464 2 года назад

      Same here. I can't wait for a rematch with them also with the Gym Leaders. They take no prisoners as well in the post game specially Roark

    • @aidendessler538
      @aidendessler538 2 года назад

      I had a 53 or 4 manaphy and it somehow one shotted flint's steelix. It was very unexpected. I used surf so it was super effective but I thought Steelix would survive

    • @zackfair6791
      @zackfair6791 2 года назад

      My only issue is them being a roadblock to post game pokemon.

  • @sayvionwashington1939
    @sayvionwashington1939 2 года назад +16

    I skipped a few routes and the Team Galactic plot via Egg Skip and went straight to the Leauge, so I was pretty underleveled. Aaron mowed through half my squad with that crit happy Drapion, Cynthia's Lucario mowed through my team twice, I had to PP Stall her Milotic, and only beat Garchomp via the Power of Friendship. This Leauge is hard.

    • @Reaper-js3ho
      @Reaper-js3ho 2 года назад +1

      @@sayvionwashington1939 it's anyone's fault for not talking Riley or what ever the guys name is that gives you riolu

  • @JacksonJonez
    @JacksonJonez 2 года назад

    My first try i lost on the 2nd battle then after i checked Austin’s guide and strategy I’m here at Cynthia bout to fight I was just so hype I had to come back and comment lol

  • @nickb2396
    @nickb2396 2 года назад

    Holy crap, fantastic call on using X items. I defeated Cynthia only using my Empoleon! Didn’t have to use a single other Pokémon on my team.

  • @acetrainer69
    @acetrainer69 2 года назад +7

    “I’m just gonna grind the woman.” -AJP

  • @AlphaLykkan
    @AlphaLykkan 2 года назад +12

    The battles with the Elite Four and Cynthia seem like a pretty good challenge and also massive props to Austin for all the awesome content!!

  • @OwentheRocker
    @OwentheRocker 2 года назад +1

    This is the hardest Champion battle of series’ modern era imo. I’ve already lost to her twice playing at the same level with legit strategies. The Elite 4 aren’t too rough as long as you bring enough items and some good move coverage, but that final Garchomp is actually terrifying.

  • @warrenyoung6344
    @warrenyoung6344 2 года назад

    Setup helps so much. Gyrados with Dragon Dance and Houndoom with nasty plot helped me win

  • @ImmanuelSpirit
    @ImmanuelSpirit 2 года назад +3

    These teams were insane. I’m thinking they will be easy and simple but it was just like old time. Very very stressful 😭🤦🏽‍♂️ But I love this competitiveness in this game

  • @sarthakkhare9843
    @sarthakkhare9843 2 года назад +16

    I needed Grass Knot on Empoleon for Gastrodon and my MVP Togekiss just barely survived and killed Garchomp in the end. It was my 3rd attempt. Don't remember the last time I had to even think of getting TMs or strategy to beat an NPC. Oh and the elite 4 was no joke either. In my re-battle post game I fared much better because I had a new MVP in the form of Gliscor (who is only obtainable post game cz razor fang is in battle area). Needless to say, Cynthia truly lived up to the title of the strongest champion, if not the strongest NPC, in the entire franchise.

  • @corrosiveomen9584
    @corrosiveomen9584 2 года назад

    So I did a variation or two, using a clefable for stealth rocks and both screen/reflect along with an alakazam and azurmaril who took advantage of sheer power, belly drum and aqua jet. Managed to do fine and win even. But I still used your main 3 so thanks for helping me stomp Cynthia's team lol

  • @bridgetbarry605
    @bridgetbarry605 Год назад

    Thank you!!! I could not defeat Cynthia until these tips 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @wiseparker652
    @wiseparker652 2 года назад +19

    Me who’s already done it first try: My goals are beyond your understanding.

    • @V0lt1j
      @V0lt1j 2 года назад

      How

    • @PrincessArielAngel
      @PrincessArielAngel 2 года назад

      I did it second try lol 😂

    • @wiseparker652
      @wiseparker652 2 года назад

      @@V0lt1j luck

    • @V0lt1j
      @V0lt1j 2 года назад +1

      @@wiseparker652 the games just came in the mail 😁😁😁 I’m picking chimchar

    • @pulseofme6884
      @pulseofme6884 2 года назад

      These games are so much easier then the originals lol.

  • @shellybearrr
    @shellybearrr 2 года назад +6

    I battled these guys for about 4 hours (with breaks) on my first go, got pretty much demolished but made a huge comeback on battle 3 and brought my whole team back from 2 half HP Pokemon thanks to Quagsire. After burning through every potion, full restore and moomoo milk I had, her Garchomp finally cashed me in with about 1/4 HP left. Milotic does most of the work, stall stall stall as much as you can if you don't have the right pokemon. I made it that far with literally no flying types because I thought they would be legitimately worthless in an end game battle. It was such a let down but no doubt the most challenging battle I've ever done. Round 2 here I come. Also, Absol with Perish Song really came in clutch.

    • @piperslaughenhaupt3237
      @piperslaughenhaupt3237 2 года назад

      I haven't gotten past Flint yet because he keeps killing my team it's annoying the crap out of me I might just grind and then come back to the Elite Four

    • @piperslaughenhaupt3237
      @piperslaughenhaupt3237 2 года назад

      Because of a stupid drifblim it keeps using minimize and strength sap

  • @KingJaeTV
    @KingJaeTV 2 года назад

    Subscribe button done! This was a great watch.

  • @henksvdbogaard
    @henksvdbogaard 2 года назад

    the golbats in Victory Road ponds are what I use for speed EV training. Surfing in the caves only produces Golbats.