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Bro as an indian myself im not hauling load under 2 dollor even in this market even though i stay out from home to get my price.. besides i have recently got in touch with so called American driver he was hauling same freight 2300 which i was hauling for 3400 for same lane.. i guess rather then passing a comment racially we should stand together and educate are fellow driver …
Many leave their family in India or Mexico. They send their family 50 bucks a week to live like the rich and drive for a pack of cigs and sandwich a day.
The problem with "don't haul cheap freight" is any given carrier can only hold out as long as they can afford to. I've held off on hauling loads for 3 mo because I refused to haul for dirt. But even after 3mo rates didn't change and now I'm forced to haul for less because there is always those carriers that will haul for free and don't stop pulling cheap. These brokers are literally laughing at me or saying my rate is absurd because they are consistently getting it moved for 1/3 or the rate.
Takeover the industry Lots of truckers driving rates down over “Land Star” and think they will become the next Warren Buffett NAFTA , TPP, and endless free trade agreements
Depending one how many trucks you have, sometimes you just need to park your truck and go to work for a company, until the rates get worth you running your trucks. I know it’s got to be a hard decision, but it’s better than Not making enough to cover your expenses and going through all your money.
NO! THEY'RE NOT GETTING IT HAULED FOR LESS!!! GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS!!! Seriously: how in the hell do YOU expect to make a living hauling cheap freight, when it won't even pay for your fuel? Are you using magic fairy dust to generate a profit? Sorry, but the numbers don't work, they won't work, and they never will work, when you're NOT making enough to cover the basic expense of fuel. You're getting screwed by brokers, and you're letting them do it to you, and when you go out of business, who are you going to blame for taking all those cheap loads, that caused you to lose your ass?
@H. Reed I have pay off trucks and also I have my dot and my MC I just try to help other people to not be fucked up Every one is make money mechanic, DMV, broker, shipper, receiver, FMCSA,UCR ,IFTA trucks dealerships fuel station insurance company every single person is make money except owner and truck driver if someone wants to make really good money they can become diesel mechanic
@@emlogisticsllc3218 actually that the way most of my family spells it. My dad spelled it the way his dad spelled it. But most of his brothers and sisters change it the way you spell it. We’re are you from? We lived in Los Angeles. I now live in Temecula Ca. Are family is supper big.
@@emlogisticsllc3218 we probably are related. I went to Bell Gardens High school in 1970. Some of my sister went to school in Downey. What’s your name. My dad is from Mexico also.
I'm a intermodal hauler. The thing we are having problems with in my area is 3rd world companies coming in and running everything for pennies. We actually had alot of our lanes drop us because we wouldn't come down to their prices. What they are running the loads for makes no sense. I can't wait until demand comes back up so we can stick it to these brokers that are pretty much killing the industry right now.
You have people coming here talking about you Americans are greedy. I’m sending my money back to my country so when I leave I’m fine. So they don’t care about American drivers.
Keeping the truck rolling. With what they are accepting loads for its the only way they are making money. They can't afford to fix the trucks either. We have a guy that parks in our lot that has to keep his truck running because if he shuts it down he has to find someone the next morning to spray half a can of either to his truck while he cranks it.
Hi, the rates in hauling intermodal are way cheaper than hauling general freights. Don't you like to move to general freights. It will make a difference.
Guys that drive fuel guzzlers then complain about cost to me is perplexing. A truck is a tool and only a tool. Don’t put your faith in nothing but glitz and glam for prestige. Think bottom line and work and live that way. Live below your means.
I've been driving empty 600 plus miles to get to a decent paying load home for the past few weeks. Luckily I have a really good rate that never goes down and it includes fuel surcharge going to Philly every week from Minnesota. All my equipment is paid for but I will not take cheap freight ever....
it kinda becomes depressing everytime you hear someone who has 20+ trucks tell there story cause they’re all the same….they already had a foot in the door and were destined to do good in trucking and family owned business….kinda sucks for guys who are actually coming from the ground up with no help
I’ve been in trucking for 30 years. Holding out for a better rate doesn’t work. There’s always somebody who’s gonna take it. The only way to really survive is to cut your operating costs.
I’m in construction. I get contractors that beg me to take jobs all the time. Only problem. The money doesn’t cover costs. Not my job to be poor so you can make big profits
so how does that work exactly? everyone sits and waits for the rates to go up and then when they go up, we all go after them and not compete for them by lowering our rates? so those who don't get a load should wait for the next wave? like how does that really work.... say we got 5 cheap loads and 30 trucks waiting. how long do they wait and what do they do when the load hits the rate they all like? only the first five take them and the other wait longer... but whatever they do, they cannot say they will do it for a little less than the next guy because this will lead to the rates plummeting.... What you all say makes no sense in reality.
What really needs to happen is everyone shut them down a coast to coast strike. THAT will get their attention real quick but as we all know the odds of that are very remote and they fly in foreign drivers everyone has to pull a Jimmy Hoffa an their asses. Been OTR for over 35 years or so just telling it like it is
Absolutely correct!!! Shut it down!!! Unfortunately you’ll have asshats hauling anyway!! I shut down last Friday for a little while. Gonna see what happens and go from there
LOL Right on cue there some here talking about a general strike. Same thing, over and over again. It’s never going to happen, so get your business lean enough to haul in this environment or GTFO. For 20 years now, truckers have become such babies. 👶
A strike will never happen because the masses are guys that owe on trucks gotta make them payments. Guys gotta pay bills & put food on the table. No one is gonna sit & not make some money just to prove a point & in the process hurt themselves.
He is not saying don't haul cheap freight. He is saying don't haul for less than your cost. There is a difference. The outfits that haul below cost will start to disappear. Eventually rates will go up.
@@bellboy4074 so what is cheap freight then? I know oversized guys won't move for 5 bucks a mile. Their cost is around 2 but like to make a profit. Most guys eyes would bug out at 4 dollar a mile freight. But to some that is cheap. So don't haul less that cost. And don't haul less than what you want for the bother as well. I figure 3 bucks a mile and more is good enough for me, but wouldn't do oversize for that.
Today is May 1st and so far this year I've hauled 11 loads. I will NOT take less than $2 per mile. It is etched in granite. I have a box truck with dual tandems and can carry up to 20k. I have seen loads on DAT that have been there four and five days because no one will take it. Imagine a full 53ft load going from Quincy, Il to Long Island, NY and the offer is $2200. It cost $200 in and $200 out in NYC bridge tolls alone. And thats not including what the PA turnpike tolls will cost add to NJ Turnpike toll rates. This is horrific and to be honest just downright criminal.
I like to see small businesses grow… I’m in the process of growing my business this year (expanding my fleet) I also agree just refuse cheap rates. We all have to stand firm
I m in Canada with 6 years experience driving Road Trains in Australia and got my AZ/CDL licence here. I m out of work because I m not accepting poverty wages and those second class companies tell me that I don’t have enough experience. Same companies are bringing people from Dubai, I m baffled if Dubai truckers have better safety standards than Australians. 😂 With increasing number of people converting wages in foreign exchange I doubt Industry is gonna be better any day. 😢
We need a standard rate for each type of load depending on weight. We need a universal standard, without that then we will continue to have this circus of rate fluctuating all over the place
I parked the truck, start my local 35 hour a week company driver job tomorrow morning. Five to noon, M-F... I started preparing for this day, the parking of the truck, when FJB was selected, as I knew this day was coming.
Customers have been paying more then they ever have and trucking companies have been doing the polar opposite. Should tell you a lot about the industry right now.
GLAD TO HEAR SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT WHAT I PREACH EVERY DAY TO ALL MY CARRIERS. HOLD ON DON'T ACCEPT THE LOAD AND THE NEXT DAY THE BROKER WILL BE FORCED TO PAY BECAUSE THEY NEED TO MOVE IT. THESE PEOPLE HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY, DONT BELIEVE THAT CRAP THE MARKET IS BAD.
My opinion is all of us independent contractors need to come together and form one company that we all have ownership in. Then we need to get our own brokerage and hire people to run the brokerage and the company. We all should be able to that we are comfortable with while putting back into the business. Our strength is in our numbers we are weak doing things on our own.
Sometimes I think this industry is a race to the bottom, who can do it cheaper is all that matters. I hate complaining about rates and brokers because at the end of the day truckers/company owners are the reason the rates are low.
Turning down freight will do absolutely nothing because in the world of trucking what you won't do, someone else will...In my 25 years of driving, that has always been the case. If 80 percent of the drivers would simply shut down for two to three weeks, you not only minimize your financial loss, but you also get the authorities to come to the negotiation table at a faster rate. It's not rocket science people. It's simply hurting the supply enough to negatively affect the demand.
You have people coming here talking about you Americans are greedy. I’m sending my money back to my country so when I leave I’m fine. So they don’t care about American drivers.
I turned down two rescues today because one would have broken my reset and the other was a driver running out of his HOS but could not be bothered to drive 100 miles to reach his receiver. Nope.
You don't even need 80% of the drivers. All you need is to withdraw the drives who haul fuel. Nothing moves without fuel. It's too bad no one is willing to sacrifice and stand up for themselves anymore.
Guys, it's always discussed at some solution "shut down for 1+ week! Let's come together and bring something something and etc and halt".... Nothing ever happens. There is a constant revolving door of new drivers who come in, know nothing... Do it for a month or two and leave. They don't know better, they also seem happy working for 600$ paychecks. So, we, who have been at it for years, are complaining to each other, while the green clowns are working for free. The best and most sensible way in my opinion is to go through the laws. 1$ a mile should be made illegal and that's it. There has to be a minimum set by law. The rates must be made public by law. Scum brokers get 5-10% of the rate and it should also be made public. We are not in Healthcare. There is no expectation of privacy. Every transaction shipper , receiver, and carrier cannot expect privacy
So true I was a broker with C.H. Robinson and I told all my carriers they need to know what their rpm to operate. Otherwise you will drive your business to the grown.
We need to go on strike for months and teach them this shit is not right let’s do this owner opp and mother trucker pls push this to max man we will appreciate you much love from tampa FLORIDA
If your mommy and daddy don't set you up you might consider deadheading to a better market. You may sit for a week waiting on a rate to come up. Find the good markets and run them always watching for market moves. Stay ahead of the game.
Scnieder and jb hunt haul everything for anything. Try competing with that! That is the reason I lease on to a carrier especially in the North East lanes.
There is an art to it , but bottom dollar rate then add 25% don't budge , let them counter offer , be polite and and hang up , you know you got em if they call right back , if they don't call right back ( within an hour) look for something else
"Know YOUR bottom line" I won't undercut reasonable rates just to screw guys over. But there are a ton of drivers out there that are up to their eyeballs in debt from truck and trailer payments, expensive insurance on a terrible driving record, and the inability to live on a lower income than they did when times were good because they bought a big house and every toy they could. And those are the guys that are screeching the loudest right now. And those are the guys that I don't really care if their cash grab folds on itself.
The truck is beautiful but it's not practical. Especially in the flatbed industry. I like a truck I can work and not worry about scratches and shit. 315000 you never going to get ahead with that thing. It will be in the shop half the time.
It's all more about monopolies. Like California switching too all EV and natural gas.....they know the mega carriers will stay and the smaller guys will leave. Everything is switching to contract and corporate fleets, and swift and then are taking the cheap stuff. I drive for Crete who is a higher pay carrier and for the AZ-TX regional I'm on, we used to frequent a certain frito lay plant in Dalls, but recently Schneider took over that run, and we all know schneider is one of the lowest paying mega carriers so they probably offered cheaper rates.
McCallan, TX- to- Buffalo, NY, with a stop in OH for $4000. This isn't a rate problem this is Broker greed, and thousand of loads worse then this. I know some drivers have no choice but these brokers are dirtbags, and I am blessed to have my equipment paid off and don't have to except these joker rates.
Good old common sense 👍🏾 & I would also say this on these ridiculous truck prices 🚚💰💰💰 if we stop buying them then for those prices maybe they go down 🤷🏽♂️
"It's controlled by the drivers". Looool. Supply & demand. If there isn't enough demand for supply, you don't need drivers. How the hell do drivers control anything when all the big mega carriers are swallowing contracts and pricing the freight down?
There has been a shortage of truck drivers for 40 years. The reason is, if all the freight is covered by drivers, shippers start driving down freight as low as it will go until no driver anywhere will take that load for that price. Sometimes savvy shippers will let freight sit for months if it's low priority fishing for a super low rate maybe a new operator etc. So prices always stay rock bottom the lowest anyone will work for. And then flood the industry with immigrants and give the immigrants subsidies so they can under bid everyone. Thats why.
The first minute of this video is all you need to know. I've been driving for 31 years. This was discussed by Kevin Rutherford almost 20 years ago. Out of all the people who subscribe to this channel, 98% of you don't know your numbers. You have no idea what it costs you to run your truck. All you know is you have plenty of chrome, and a train horn.
What is also very sad is carriers alter/edit load rate confirmation reducing the rate amount, it’s also called stealing some dollar, before sends it to the driver
Imagine if truckers got together and did what they did for the vacinne mandates to DEMAND better pay. Truckers are the only ones who have the power to actually change anything since society needs us.
Truckers need a Union, a real trucker Union and these issues will be regulated by the union, here goes the EPA making rules, make your own body and abide by it. With everything going on what stopping it from happening.
You shouldn't run your entire operation off load boards on the spot market. You should only use it to supplement your regular food paying freight that you've acquired thru relationships. If you're booking loads off boards with ppl you have no relationship with then you'll get a market rate. It's not meant to rely completely on
OWNER-OPERATORS COMPLAIN ABOUT THE RATES. THE PROBLEM IS THEY KEEP ACCEPTING THIS LOW CHEAP FREIGHT. AS LONG AS EACH ONE OF YOU CONTINUE TO ACCEPT THEM IT WILL KEEP GETTING WORST. PLEASE GUYS DONT HAUL ESPECIALLY FOR TQL.
Funny how the price of goods is through the roof, the price of fuel is through the roof, replacement parts, tires, but FREIGHT RATES are way down, and going lower. Hmmmmm
My truck has been shut down and parked in my driveway for over a year. I went back company driving and even with them I do a backhaul from a broker for 2 dollars a mile. I make it a point to be late for most brokered loads and not answer any calls from a broker.
Drivers must set out for 3 days or more, also you must email and call your Congress and Senators. I have a family members and friends that truck drivers.
I am see a lot of large car Petercar about 1 year old at my local Pete dealership. I presume the owners bought them without knowing enough about cost per mile,rates and not having enough cash reserves for lean times and low rates? Refuse cheap freight or don’t make a profit at all and maybe lose money.
everybody keeps saying don’t haul cheap freight but everybody is doing those cheap loads… you cant even het a load how fast it goes out of loadboards!!!
Everyone doesn’t work that way to hold out for each other the new drivers are coming on taking crumbs that was making it hard on you guys and they don’t even know how to use a Jake brake
this is true. i'm planning on start trucking here in tx pretty soon. the jobs market sucks right now. I already switched careers 3 times just to find work. trucking is my last resort just live and survive day to day. In other words... I have fully embraced the "pod living" agenda. I'd rather do it in a truck than a high rise. "you will own nothing and you'll like it"
The Rate people are hauling these days they would make more money working at a local job and being home everyday then staying out from your family for weeks then coming back home with nothing
We are well past don’t haul cheap freight. We all been singing that song for years now and no real change. Because that like the trucking for dummies 101. We need a real structure detailed plan. Like a good starting example who set up/fleet cost the most to maintain and operate should be where the bar starts at and that way everyone else should be well taken care of. Wishful thinking I know but we need a real plan to help each other before it’s to late.
International CDLs need to be banned from U.S. roads. A degree isn't recognized but they can operate 80k lbs next to your families. How many loads and jobs are lost to foreign drivers every day? THOUSANDS. The oilfield sand industry among most freight lines have been all but decimated by unqualified drivers who work for pennies. Ban it. Create jobs. Bring rates back up. Improve safety. The single biggest improvement that can be done right now. Make trucking great again!
Exactly all drivers including trainer driver gets standard pay at $5 mile no less and all driver need to make this a rule and stick to it They will know who's your boss And it's not them
Everyone one wants to be owner operator leasing truck with high monthly payments. Every month them bills and cost of operations coming fast so the feel desperate to take whatever can keep them afloat or not get their equipment repo’d. Drivers than can sit days or do a load a week and make demands is some that paid his equipments off and have a good amount in saving account to sit out. But everyone gets a CDL and immediately runs to lease a truck without learning the business and the cost of operations
Same thing Uber did to limo / black car services. airport rides that we used to charge $100 in 2015 now Uber willcharges the rider $50 and driver gets $20
I don't know why everyone thinks owner-operators haul for these low rates. It's actually the small carriers that have drivers and have no other choice. I assume they are too small to be able to secure some decent contracts and are forced to stay in the spot market. They keep running at a loss hoping next month it will get better. If you have drivers you have to give them miles otherwise they quit. Parking their trucks is not an option when they have tens of thousands of dollars in bills every month. At some point, enough of them will fail and the market will balance. Until then the rates will stay low.
I am " imported driver" and I make more money than you. That's all you know how to do, being a bitch and complain. I have been in this country for less than 10 years and I am killing it, but I am not a little bitch complaining and blaming someone else like you do
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I think hundreds of thousands of Indians , Nigerians, and Russians coming here willing to work for dirt rates aren’t helping
Thry will all be wipe out very soon all these fools will go out bussiness and the market will level itself back up
Bro as an indian myself im not hauling load under 2 dollor even in this market even though i stay out from home to get my price.. besides i have recently got in touch with so called American driver he was hauling same freight 2300 which i was hauling for 3400 for same lane.. i guess rather then passing a comment racially we should stand together and educate are fellow driver …
Many leave their family in India or Mexico. They send their family 50 bucks a week to live like the rich and drive for a pack of cigs and sandwich a day.
The problem with "don't haul cheap freight" is any given carrier can only hold out as long as they can afford to. I've held off on hauling loads for 3 mo because I refused to haul for dirt. But even after 3mo rates didn't change and now I'm forced to haul for less because there is always those carriers that will haul for free and don't stop pulling cheap. These brokers are literally laughing at me or saying my rate is absurd because they are consistently getting it moved for 1/3 or the rate.
Takeover the industry
Lots of truckers driving rates down over “Land Star” and think they will become the next Warren Buffett
NAFTA , TPP, and endless free trade agreements
@@donttruckhere
Too many take the “lease owner” route and do not factor in the operating expenses and cost of capital !
Depending one how many trucks you have, sometimes you just need to park your truck and go to work for a company, until the rates get worth you running your trucks. I know it’s got to be a hard decision, but it’s better than Not making enough to cover your expenses and going through all your money.
@@joerubalcava11 Agreed. Hell...at this point, even megas are struggling to keep drivers moving.
NO! THEY'RE NOT GETTING IT HAULED FOR LESS!!! GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS!!!
Seriously: how in the hell do YOU expect to make a living hauling cheap freight, when it won't even pay for your fuel? Are you using magic fairy dust to generate a profit?
Sorry, but the numbers don't work, they won't work, and they never will work, when you're NOT making enough to cover the basic expense of fuel.
You're getting screwed by brokers, and you're letting them do it to you, and when you go out of business, who are you going to blame for taking all those cheap loads, that caused you to lose your ass?
As owner operator stay away from trucking don’t waste your time and your energy for nothing
I still making $35.00 an hour and I have been looking for job that pays better but still waiting
This chap is just trying to save some money for himself. It pays if you hustle and don’t goof around. Get the bag
@H. Reed I have pay off trucks and also I have my dot and my MC I just try to help other people to not be fucked up
Every one is make money mechanic, DMV, broker, shipper, receiver, FMCSA,UCR ,IFTA trucks dealerships fuel station insurance company every single person is make money except owner and truck driver if someone wants to make really good money they can become diesel mechanic
Half the so called owner operators out here don't even have a clue what their true cost per mile is. They just take any load.
Time to educate them, use your trailer for that.....is a big billboard O/O can use for that purpose
@@papanasaraah7412 nah, we need them to go out of business to raise these rates again. sorry but this is how load board trucking works.
I agree with life
FACTS!
@@HA-nx5qn I need to start making video's... too many people in this game have no idea how it all really works.
That’s right, don’t haul cheap loads. Your only hurting yourself in the long run.
Hey Joe what state are you in?
We might be related same cool last name 👍 I just spell it different Ruvalcaba.
@@emlogisticsllc3218 actually that the way most of my family spells it. My dad spelled it the way his dad spelled it. But most of his brothers and sisters change it the way you spell it. We’re are you from? We lived in Los Angeles. I now live in Temecula Ca. Are family is supper big.
Am in Hesperia Ca but grew up in Bell Gardens and Downey. We from Mexico in Jalisco.
@@emlogisticsllc3218 we probably are related. I went to Bell Gardens High school in 1970. Some of my sister went to school in Downey. What’s your name. My dad is from Mexico also.
I'm a intermodal hauler. The thing we are having problems with in my area is 3rd world companies coming in and running everything for pennies. We actually had alot of our lanes drop us because we wouldn't come down to their prices. What they are running the loads for makes no sense. I can't wait until demand comes back up so we can stick it to these brokers that are pretty much killing the industry right now.
You have people coming here talking about you Americans are greedy. I’m sending my money back to my country so when I leave I’m fine. So they don’t care about American drivers.
Yesterday I seen 4 of them in one truck. 4 of them!!!! What in the world is going on?
@@realmarjenkins79714 doing what?
Keeping the truck rolling. With what they are accepting loads for its the only way they are making money. They can't afford to fix the trucks either. We have a guy that parks in our lot that has to keep his truck running because if he shuts it down he has to find someone the next morning to spray half a can of either to his truck while he cranks it.
Hi, the rates in hauling intermodal are way cheaper than hauling general freights. Don't you like to move to general freights. It will make a difference.
Guys that drive fuel guzzlers then complain about cost to me is perplexing. A truck is a tool and only a tool. Don’t put your faith in nothing but glitz and glam for prestige. Think bottom line and work and live that way. Live below your means.
I've been driving empty 600 plus miles to get to a decent paying load home for the past few weeks. Luckily I have a really good rate that never goes down and it includes fuel surcharge going to Philly every week from Minnesota. All my equipment is paid for but I will not take cheap freight ever....
The problem is all these new immigrants coming into the labor force willing to work for anything.
it kinda becomes depressing everytime you hear someone who has 20+ trucks tell there story cause they’re all the same….they already had a foot in the door and were destined to do good in trucking and family owned business….kinda sucks for guys who are actually coming from the ground up with no help
Haul make money don't listen to nobody. They have plenty of money to never work again
@@crazytrucker2376 wise man speaks, pleasure to see
@@crazytrucker2376 😂Stay a slave too😂
Ever hear the story about if ? If took a shit and fell overboard 💩
Buys a feelt of wasteful ugly square nosed trucks and wonders why they can’t compete 🤷🏼♀️ They deserve to go out of business.
They have said what ever the fuel prices are that should be the rate on the load for dry vans. STOP HAULING CHEAP FREIGHT.
I’ve been in trucking for 30 years. Holding out for a better rate doesn’t work. There’s always somebody who’s gonna take it. The only way to really survive is to cut your operating costs.
if you hold out and the guy next to you holds out, tomorrow you bid against each other on that load and drop the rate anyway.🤣🤣😂
Market of 300k trucks and 1 dollar freight 😂😂😂
I’m in construction. I get contractors that beg me to take jobs all the time. Only problem. The money doesn’t cover costs. Not my job to be poor so you can make big profits
Exactly people need to listen I be telling people stop taking those $1.70 to $2.20 cent a mile loads
Shame uber freaght load is 1.40 and all loads booked alot bad guys take cheap
so how does that work exactly? everyone sits and waits for the rates to go up and then when they go up, we all go after them and not compete for them by lowering our rates? so those who don't get a load should wait for the next wave? like how does that really work.... say we got 5 cheap loads and 30 trucks waiting. how long do they wait and what do they do when the load hits the rate they all like? only the first five take them and the other wait longer... but whatever they do, they cannot say they will do it for a little less than the next guy because this will lead to the rates plummeting.... What you all say makes no sense in reality.
What really needs to happen is everyone shut them down a coast to coast strike. THAT will get their attention real quick but as we all know the odds of that are very remote and they fly in foreign drivers everyone has to pull a Jimmy Hoffa an their asses. Been OTR for over 35 years or so just telling it like it is
Absolutely correct!!! Shut it down!!! Unfortunately you’ll have asshats hauling anyway!! I shut down last Friday for a little while. Gonna see what happens and go from there
LOL Right on cue there some here talking about a general strike. Same thing, over and over again. It’s never going to happen, so get your business lean enough to haul in this environment or GTFO. For 20 years now, truckers have become such babies. 👶
A strike will never happen because the masses are guys that owe on trucks gotta make them payments. Guys gotta pay bills & put food on the table. No one is gonna sit & not make some money just to prove a point & in the process hurt themselves.
He is not saying don't haul cheap freight. He is saying don't haul for less than your cost. There is a difference. The outfits that haul below cost will start to disappear. Eventually rates will go up.
Yes, he is saying don't haul cheap freight.
@@bellboy4074 so what is cheap freight then? I know oversized guys won't move for 5 bucks a mile. Their cost is around 2 but like to make a profit. Most guys eyes would bug out at 4 dollar a mile freight. But to some that is cheap. So don't haul less that cost. And don't haul less than what you want for the bother as well. I figure 3 bucks a mile and more is good enough for me, but wouldn't do oversize for that.
Lets all stop on may first 2023 pass the word (lets organize
Today is May 1st and so far this year I've hauled 11 loads. I will NOT take less than $2 per mile. It is etched in granite. I have a box truck with dual tandems and can carry up to 20k. I have seen loads on DAT that have been there four and five days because no one will take it. Imagine a full 53ft load going from Quincy, Il to Long Island, NY and the offer is $2200. It cost $200 in and $200 out in NYC bridge tolls alone. And thats not including what the PA turnpike tolls will cost add to NJ Turnpike toll rates. This is horrific and to be honest just downright criminal.
We need to be united and not take those cheap loads .
UCR.gov?
I like to see small businesses grow… I’m in the process of growing my business this year (expanding my fleet) I also agree just refuse cheap rates. We all have to stand firm
If you’re looking for a good truck and trailer let me know 😁
Don’t haul cheap freight, also known as “I can’t compete because I suck at business “
I m in Canada with 6 years experience driving Road Trains in Australia and got my AZ/CDL licence here. I m out of work because I m not accepting poverty wages and those second class companies tell me that I don’t have enough experience. Same companies are bringing people from Dubai, I m baffled if Dubai truckers have better safety standards than Australians. 😂
With increasing number of people converting wages in foreign exchange I doubt Industry is gonna be better any day. 😢
We need a standard rate for each type of load depending on weight. We need a universal standard, without that then we will continue to have this circus of rate fluctuating all over the place
We did have this very thing. It was killed by Jimmy Carter. The Interstate Commerce Commission.
Right. Remember 1980? I do.
They need to be forced to show what they are paying the broker
a standard rate? you want to go back to the days of industry regulation?
@@cyclopsvision6370 yup…that way it’s fair across the board. There is a standard price for everything in all industries except trucking
I parked the truck, start my local 35 hour a week company driver job tomorrow morning. Five to noon, M-F... I started preparing for this day, the parking of the truck, when FJB was selected, as I knew this day was coming.
Customers have been paying more then they ever have and trucking companies have been doing the polar opposite. Should tell you a lot about the industry right now.
Seriously, where all money goes 🤬
Well said my brother let's set the rate before going back to hauling $3.00 minimum
yes please do, so I can under bid you and do it for 2.90.... get all that good freight. :)
GLAD TO HEAR SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT WHAT I PREACH EVERY DAY TO ALL MY CARRIERS. HOLD ON DON'T ACCEPT THE LOAD AND THE NEXT DAY THE BROKER WILL BE FORCED TO PAY BECAUSE THEY NEED TO MOVE IT. THESE PEOPLE HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY, DONT BELIEVE THAT CRAP THE MARKET IS BAD.
This driver owner is right on! Hold your freight rates where YOU want them.
My opinion is all of us independent contractors need to come together and form one company that we all have ownership in. Then we need to get our own brokerage and hire people to run the brokerage and the company. We all should be able to that we are comfortable with while putting back into the business. Our strength is in our numbers we are weak doing things on our own.
To hell with that. I wouldn't want to be associated with all the clowns out here.
That's called a monopoly and is illegal. FTC wouldn't allow it.
You would form your own megacarrier owned by the drivers. Sounds good, like a credit union.
$317,500.00 😂😂😂Good luck.
Opens the video talking about how bad rates are then try’s to sell a 300k + truck 😂
317k years later he will still be trying to sell it
I was getting 2.00 dollars a mile 25 years ago driving airport taxi, can’t hardly get that trucking!
That’s a lot of money to pay to look cool.
I was thinking the same thing, no wander he is bitching about rates. lmao
Sometimes I think this industry is a race to the bottom, who can do it cheaper is all that matters. I hate complaining about rates and brokers because at the end of the day truckers/company owners are the reason the rates are low.
Yep 💯 I agree. Stay with your rates or stay home with your lovelies! Screw brokers! Don't be a fool, Respect your self and your truck!
100% good way to fail...
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Turning down freight will do absolutely nothing because in the world of trucking what you won't do, someone else will...In my 25 years of driving, that has always been the case.
If 80 percent of the drivers would simply shut down for two to three weeks, you not only minimize your financial loss, but you also get the authorities to come to the negotiation table at a faster rate. It's not rocket science people. It's simply hurting the supply enough to negatively affect the demand.
It will be a miracle if we can pull that off even with social media truck drivers can’t come together and fix this mess
You have people coming here talking about you Americans are greedy. I’m sending my money back to my country so when I leave I’m fine. So they don’t care about American drivers.
I turned down two rescues today because one would have broken my reset and the other was a driver running out of his HOS but could not be bothered to drive 100 miles to reach his receiver. Nope.
You don't even need 80% of the drivers. All you need is to withdraw the drives who haul fuel. Nothing moves without fuel. It's too bad no one is willing to sacrifice and stand up for themselves anymore.
Guys, it's always discussed at some solution "shut down for 1+ week! Let's come together and bring something something and etc and halt".... Nothing ever happens.
There is a constant revolving door of new drivers who come in, know nothing... Do it for a month or two and leave. They don't know better, they also seem happy working for 600$ paychecks. So, we, who have been at it for years, are complaining to each other, while the green clowns are working for free.
The best and most sensible way in my opinion is to go through the laws. 1$ a mile should be made illegal and that's it. There has to be a minimum set by law. The rates must be made public by law. Scum brokers get 5-10% of the rate and it should also be made public.
We are not in Healthcare. There is no expectation of privacy. Every transaction shipper , receiver, and carrier cannot expect privacy
Truckers should be able to set their rates. Only industry where the customer tells you what you what they’ll pay you. It just don’t make sense.
Agreed
The issue is, as soon as the rates move, someone will take it, so please let's set the mark$. $3.00
So true I was a broker with C.H. Robinson and I told all my carriers they need to know what their rpm to operate. Otherwise you will drive your business to the grown.
Not even just taking bad loads i don't even go to certain areas any more
I think we need to start talking to the owners with the toes out. Y’all know what group of people taking the cheap freight.
We need to go on strike for months and teach them this shit is not right let’s do this owner opp and mother trucker pls push this to max man we will appreciate you much love from tampa FLORIDA
If your mommy and daddy don't set you up you might consider deadheading to a better market. You may sit for a week waiting on a rate to come up. Find the good markets and run them always watching for market moves. Stay ahead of the game.
right! its a market.... they don't seem to understand how markets work
Scnieder and jb hunt haul everything for anything. Try competing with that! That is the reason I lease on to a carrier especially in the North East lanes.
This is definitely one of the coolest videos I've seen you make
Appreciate you
Hazmats and tankers, paid by the hour is the only way. They puttin' all that freight on trains. Let it go.
There is an art to it , but bottom dollar rate then add 25% don't budge , let them counter offer , be polite and and hang up , you know you got em if they call right back , if they don't call right back ( within an hour) look for something else
"Know YOUR bottom line"
I won't undercut reasonable rates just to screw guys over. But there are a ton of drivers out there that are up to their eyeballs in debt from truck and trailer payments, expensive insurance on a terrible driving record, and the inability to live on a lower income than they did when times were good because they bought a big house and every toy they could. And those are the guys that are screeching the loudest right now. And those are the guys that I don't really care if their cash grab folds on itself.
The truck is beautiful but it's not practical. Especially in the flatbed industry. I like a truck I can work and not worry about scratches and shit. 315000 you never going to get ahead with that thing. It will be in the shop half the time.
It's all more about monopolies. Like California switching too all EV and natural gas.....they know the mega carriers will stay and the smaller guys will leave. Everything is switching to contract and corporate fleets, and swift and then are taking the cheap stuff. I drive for Crete who is a higher pay carrier and for the AZ-TX regional I'm on, we used to frequent a certain frito lay plant in Dalls, but recently Schneider took over that run, and we all know schneider is one of the lowest paying mega carriers so they probably offered cheaper rates.
McCallan, TX- to- Buffalo, NY, with a stop in OH for $4000. This isn't a rate problem this is Broker greed, and thousand of loads worse then this. I know some drivers have no choice but these brokers are dirtbags, and I am blessed to have my equipment paid off and don't have to except these joker rates.
Good old common sense 👍🏾 & I would also say this on these ridiculous truck prices 🚚💰💰💰 if we stop buying them then for those prices maybe they go down 🤷🏽♂️
"It's controlled by the drivers". Looool. Supply & demand. If there isn't enough demand for supply, you don't need drivers. How the hell do drivers control anything when all the big mega carriers are swallowing contracts and pricing the freight down?
There has been a shortage of truck drivers for 40 years. The reason is, if all the freight is covered by drivers, shippers start driving down freight as low as it will go until no driver anywhere will take that load for that price. Sometimes savvy shippers will let freight sit for months if it's low priority fishing for a super low rate maybe a new operator etc. So prices always stay rock bottom the lowest anyone will work for. And then flood the industry with immigrants and give the immigrants subsidies so they can under bid everyone.
Thats why.
Sell raffle tickets 500 or 1000 each for 8 mo. Seen it done with houses
The first minute of this video is all you need to know. I've been driving for 31 years. This was discussed by Kevin Rutherford almost 20 years ago. Out of all the people who subscribe to this channel, 98% of you don't know your numbers. You have no idea what it costs you to run your truck. All you know is you have plenty of chrome, and a train horn.
What's a beautiful truck. I would have to say the engine painted the old school cummins color is amazing in that truck. And really a great price
This is to all you drivers stop taking cheap loads. I repeat Stop taking cheap loads.
What is also very sad is carriers alter/edit load rate confirmation reducing the rate amount, it’s also called stealing some dollar, before sends it to the driver
Imagine if truckers got together and did what they did for the vacinne mandates to DEMAND better pay. Truckers are the only ones who have the power to actually change anything since society needs us.
I agree, the market is stupid right now and something needs to change!
Truckers need a Union, a real trucker Union and these issues will be regulated by the union, here goes the EPA making rules, make your own body and abide by it. With everything going on what stopping it from happening.
Exactly thes3 newbies need to understand that last part.
You shouldn't run your entire operation off load boards on the spot market. You should only use it to supplement your regular food paying freight that you've acquired thru relationships. If you're booking loads off boards with ppl you have no relationship with then you'll get a market rate. It's not meant to rely completely on
It's not just the Drivers fualt the rates go down,it's other factors that play into the situation,like the market, economy the political situations.
OWNER-OPERATORS COMPLAIN ABOUT THE RATES. THE PROBLEM IS THEY KEEP ACCEPTING THIS LOW CHEAP FREIGHT. AS LONG AS EACH ONE OF YOU CONTINUE TO ACCEPT THEM IT WILL KEEP GETTING WORST. PLEASE GUYS DONT HAUL ESPECIALLY FOR TQL.
Great interview!
Thank u
Work smarter not harder. Do less work for more money. Most people in trucking are on a race to the bottom and we need to turn this around.
Funny how the price of goods is through the roof, the price of fuel is through the roof, replacement parts, tires, but FREIGHT RATES are way down, and going lower. Hmmmmm
My truck has been shut down and parked in my driveway for over a year. I went back company driving and even with them I do a backhaul from a broker for 2 dollars a mile. I make it a point to be late for most brokered loads and not answer any calls from a broker.
I would NEVER buy a new truck... Period! I buy pre-emission and rebuild it from the ground up. DONE. $175k - NOT over $300K.
Yeah everybody is saying it but there are a lot of penny hunters outthere
Drivers must set out for 3 days or more, also you must email and call your Congress and Senators.
I have a family members and friends that truck drivers.
Easy to say when bills pilling up
I am see a lot of large car Petercar about 1 year old at my local Pete dealership. I presume the owners bought them without knowing enough about cost per mile,rates and not having enough cash reserves for lean times and low rates? Refuse cheap freight or don’t make a profit at all and maybe lose money.
everybody keeps saying don’t haul cheap freight but everybody is doing those cheap loads… you cant even het a load how fast it goes out of loadboards!!!
Everyone doesn’t work that way to hold out for each other the new drivers are coming on taking crumbs that was making it hard on you guys and they don’t even know how to use a Jake brake
How do you use a brake jake ? Never knew there was a way to use it .
this is true. i'm planning on start trucking here in tx pretty soon. the jobs market sucks right now. I already switched careers 3 times just to find work. trucking is my last resort just live and survive day to day.
In other words... I have fully embraced the "pod living" agenda. I'd rather do it in a truck than a high rise.
"you will own nothing and you'll like it"
The Rate people are hauling these days they would make more money working at a local job and being home everyday then staying out from your family for weeks then coming back home with nothing
Facts....
Them drivers just pick anything.
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I researched being an owner operator first. Thsts why I didn't buy a truck.
We are well past don’t haul cheap freight. We all been singing that song for years now and no real change. Because that like the trucking for dummies 101. We need a real structure detailed plan. Like a good starting example who set up/fleet cost the most to maintain and operate should be where the bar starts at and that way everyone else should be well taken care of. Wishful thinking I know but we need a real plan to help each other before it’s to late.
International CDLs need to be banned from U.S. roads. A degree isn't recognized but they can operate 80k lbs next to your families. How many loads and jobs are lost to foreign drivers every day? THOUSANDS. The oilfield sand industry among most freight lines have been all but decimated by unqualified drivers who work for pennies. Ban it. Create jobs. Bring rates back up. Improve safety. The single biggest improvement that can be done right now. Make trucking great again!
Exactly all drivers including trainer driver gets standard pay at $5 mile no less and all driver need to make this a rule and stick to it
They will know who's your boss
And it's not them
super quiet at the port of los angeles today.
Retired.
Damn glad of that, too.
Live and be well.
The reason freight is low is because of too many trucks and not enough loads. It's not complicated.
Everyone one wants to be owner operator leasing truck with high monthly payments. Every month them bills and cost of operations coming fast so the feel desperate to take whatever can keep them afloat or not get their equipment repo’d. Drivers than can sit days or do a load a week and make demands is some that paid his equipments off and have a good amount in saving account to sit out. But everyone gets a CDL and immediately runs to lease a truck without learning the business and the cost of operations
To think truckers are going to hold out from hauling cheap freight, when they need to stay alive, is absurd.
This is an old fashioned fight for market share, and the losers won’t be in the trucking business when it’s over.
It's all so simple but they won't do it. Smh
Same thing Uber did to limo / black car services. airport rides that we used to charge $100 in 2015 now Uber willcharges the rider $50 and driver gets $20
I don't know why everyone thinks owner-operators haul for these low rates. It's actually the small carriers that have drivers and have no other choice. I assume they are too small to be able to secure some decent contracts and are forced to stay in the spot market. They keep running at a loss hoping next month it will get better. If you have drivers you have to give them miles otherwise they quit. Parking their trucks is not an option when they have tens of thousands of dollars in bills every month. At some point, enough of them will fail and the market will balance. Until then the rates will stay low.
Problem is always got guys that are takn the cheap loads
There will always be snakes hauling cheap. The question is: What percentage of drivers would need to hold out to raise rates?
no problem you imported over 150k drivers immigrants they will do it on less
I am " imported driver" and I make more money than you. That's all you know how to do, being a bitch and complain. I have been in this country for less than 10 years and I am killing it, but I am not a little bitch complaining and blaming someone else like you do
yep mostly cubans with their fake cdl and no experience will haul anything.
Racist.
America is done this is only the truth. I’m going get out from this country as soon as possible.
Too many foreigners working for pennies dirt cheap rates they will eventually go out bussiness and the ones that know what they doin will survive
cheaper load more expensive trucks. the market is out of balance