The Haunting Tale of the Friedmans, Child Molestation and Arrests (TW)
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- Опубликовано: 9 авг 2022
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Capturing the Friedmans tells the story of a seemingly typical middle-class family living in New York whose lives are transformed when the father and his youngest son are charged with despicable crimes. A riveting look at a family's disintegration amidst the turmoil of the father and youngest son being charged with child molestation.
Arnold Friedman taught computer classes to children during the late 1980s. But when the U.S. Postal Service discovered a foreign child pornography magazine sent to his home, an investigation was launched into him and his family.
Some of the children in Friedman's computer classes told of sex games during their classes, while other children gave no reports of sexual abuse. Through their own home movies, the Friedman family talk and argue about the investigation. Lives are changed as Arnold Friedman and his son Jesse head to trial for their alleged crimes.
This documentary is a haunting depiction of a disintegrating family, and a powerful argument on the elusiveness of truth. Very intriguing story with so many questions left unanswered as to the guilt or possible innocence of the parties involved. Please subscribe, comment and share.
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I listened to this for a half hour and turned it off, when I heard words that I had heard before in a 1958 movie called Auntie Mame, starring Rosalind Russell. She sent her nephew to a new style of school and there along with other teachings (the 3 R's I imagine) they played leapfrog naked. Anyone else remember those words? Or see the movie? I was 12 when I saw Auntie Mame and I find it strange to hear those exact words again and remember having heard them.
@@laankebygg3685 aasdsdsss
Horrible people doing horrible shit. We can save the whole world by just removing one thing We can save the whole planet and all it's inhabitants and stop global warming . Get rid of one species ....humans
@@laankebygg3685 - It's interesting to watch this very old production and realize that time does not change everything. That the advancements in technology, education, access to self-help books, access to paid mental health providers like psychologists, has not improved quality of life for a lot of people. When Elaine described how ecstatic she was when her first child was born, but then admitted that she "knew nothing about what to do", I felt like I stood in her shoes when my first child was born. I've never loved anyone or anything with the ferocious intensity that I loved my child when she was placed in my arms, but when it came time to go home from the hospital I nearly panicked. What did I know about parenting? I knew where the diaper went and I had learned in the hospital how to breastfeed, but what did I know about "raising" a child to an adult, a well-adjusted adult, an intelligent and compassionate adult? I could follow in my parents footsteps and do what they had done, but I already knew that I was going to NOT do some of the things they'd done. We were well loved and well cared for, but there were times when depression came into the room and stayed among us for days. My stiff-upper-lip British father was determined that his children would be suitable to present to the Queen Mother. He didn't use physical punishment on us but he had a way with words that often left one of us wishing that he HAD just hit us instead! And there is a frightening, terrible movement occurring around the world right now, where some 20 million mothers have been ghosted by daughters who have become estranged from them, coached by "woke" psychologists who are pushing "the mother wound" theory and telling young women that their mothers are "toxic". While Elaine's generation of mothers were "inadequate" because of lack of parenting knowledge, we are no further ahead 70 years later.
Thank you for tagging me. I just watched this. I can’t believe the mother got off with nothing. If the pornography was that scattered in the home she had to know
My mom always told me to let her know if anybody touched me "in your private place." I told her when I was 5 about her brother-in-law and she just told me to stay away from him. Now, 51 years later, she says she doesn't believe it happened. I guess that helps her sleep at night. Her brother-in-law died of lung cancer. I was hoping it spread to his genitals. She actually said "I thought you forgot all about that." You never forget. I grew up afraid of men. How can you not protect your child?
I can’t believe you even have a relationship with your mother. She is almost as bad as the monster who abused you physically/sexually. She knew and she let it happen, and made out like you were the perpetrator, spreading lies. Evil woman.
Same. I was 8 and told my mother about her boyfriend, she then married him and he terrorized our family for years. As soon as they divorced it was treated as if nothing ever happened. She still to this day so many years later swears it never happened. I stopped caring what she thought. It's a sick world. I'm sorry we're in the same boat.
I know it's a lot different, but it just reminds me of when my brothers friend snuck in my room at night... I told my mother what happened and all she said was "well, boys will be boys". And this had stuck with me for so long. When I told my mother about it or try to talk to her about it, she suddenly doesn't remember. It was one of the few times that my mother has let me down.
Children remember, especially when something like this.
Wow so many of our mothers failed us and act like they don't remember or down play everything. We owe it to ourselves to rise above it. One day I'll cut my mom off permanently
My mother actually walked in on my stepfather raping me and did nothing, when he was eventually charged(because of my aunt) he pled guilty and was given a 5 year good behaviour bond which means no jail time, Mum stayed so he was doing it again by the time sentencing happened, I left home at 15 to escape it.
Just for context I am a woman- using my husband's account
When the mother said "He was only looking at pictures to meditate, they were only pictures ".... For every picture he looked at, a child's life was ruined forever, every time he looked at a "picture", he was supporting, participating and funding the most evil hidden industry on this earth! I'm only 20 minutes into this, but my God these people are frustrating. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
Shes an enabler. You mean to tell me she didn't think there was something wrong when he wanted to spend more time with juvenile student than with you? No warning bells when your husband was no longer sexually attracted to you bt is all about private sessions with male students. Stop the madness.
ABSOLUTELY
I was in disbelief when she started "he was only looking at pics" ??? How do you think pics were made?Disgusting. But when she said "meditate" thts when I lost it.
@@Golden_Girl7123 I agree, it's all so warped and dysfunctional.
@@josephosullivan9506 made mu stomach churn. I'll take it one step.further. she was a stay at home wife/ mother. Obviously never in the workforce. If she turned him in how were her bills going to get paid? Think of the scandal and the light that would have been cast on her. A woman turning her husband in. The gossip?
Jesse’s lawyer’s story about the dad getting turned on by a 4 year old and the dad’s own detailing of his pedophilia yet his sons still are in complete denial that he’s done anything wrong. Absolutely disgusting.
They should go to jail as well because they knew.
You should read the court transcripts. This family are all complete lunatics
That's how most abuse works. Just like they said, people normally protect the abuser. Textbook.
I’m not so sure it’s just denial. Maybe they were abused, and grew up to become abusers also. That would make their bizarre stance on there fathers crime’s actually make sense.
They know well but deny and are dishonest. They're sick twisted creeps too for that
The father groomed his own boys since they were small. He rewarded them for closing the mom out. He covered his tracks well. It worked perfectly for him. He only married the mom as a cover up. He knew what he was and used her and a family to hide it. He raped his own little brother numerous times. He has totally warped his boys minds .. sick mf
i watched this twice to comprehend,
(Edit: could only get halfway thru the second time, too sick-ening)
everyone in this family needs to not reproduce.
'Arnito Rey'? what a calculating pos,
he was late on committing suicide by 60 yrs.?
the eldest son David
states that his dad died of "a surprise heart attack."
the mom acts like she's on glue,
Jesse, the other _known/suspected_ child rapist in the family, is dancing around outside the courthouse & his brother says he's calm? & the mom
"is happy living in the big house, now that everyone is gone & she can have some peace.." in the house where all these young students (& her own son) were beaten & raped?
& the contradicting narratives between the police & the investigating journalists?
wide discrepancies between/among the victims/witnesses,
clusterfuckery a go-go ✅
clown car careens into burning meth lab ✅
Yeah that's what I gathered as well. Just railroaded the mother and really just gaslit her. Making her the bad guy. I feel sorry for her. Even though that meditate comment pissed me off. Though I guess she's under immense pressure from her whole family to minimize. At least she's not in total denial though.
He probably abused his own boys, to the point they've blocked all that se**** abuse out, it's the only thing that makes since.
Yes and I think all the boys were together that’s why they were so close and poor mom is just oblivious to reality
@dayum__Dej my ex would always try to do the same with my daughters.
I find it interesting that his sons weren’t offended by his child pornography magazines. I wonder if each son was groomed, especially in the hatred toward their mother.
Absolutely groomed.
They are all the same
How in the hell do you get ahold of CP magazines back in those days??
That blows my mind!!
they hated the mother?
@@clover5668 CP isn’t something new. I don’t know how they found each other but they did. I guess birds of a feather flock together and they knew their own. I’m guessing word of mouth? Magazines were common and now it’s the internet. Sick MFRs
He wasn’t teaching because he didn’t like spending time with his wife, he liked spending time with children!
Exactly. He was raping childers
My thoughts exactly
Right!! Exactly!! Here's your sign!
haaaa exactly.
Yes, my molester was a teacher. He spent inordinate amounts of free time with children. THAT should be a red flag for any parent.
The level of denial is bizarre. The hatred towards the mother is so odd as well
Not really. They were probably conditioned to disrespect the mother and have reverence for the father from birth. To always put him above her. It's a common control mechanism. She's likely also been gaslighted for years. Which is likely what she meant by her reference to having issues herself. So when she didn't immediately and completely accept what her husband said, she became the enemy. This also explains why she kind of caved along the way as his admissions came out. 'Well if it was only 1 by then...i guess it's not a big deal. But now that it's 2 I feel so betrayed that he lied'. Until she is then conditioned to accept that 2 boys is not really a big deal etc etc. I'm not surprised at the anger being directed to her at all.
i boy is more than enough--unless years of psychological abuse by Arnito and the boys led her to think this was OK. But 2 boys was a wakeup call for her.@@angellayaright9009
A kind of Stockholm syndrome?
Not really. They’re all gay. Not big fans of women in the first place.
Total misogyny taught from their closeted father.
I have never and will never understand how an adult can be turned on by a child. Discusting and unbelievable.
Thats because you are normal.
The DEMONS are all here amongst us!
Super disgusting…
That guy blaming his mother for his father’s perversion. What a piece of work !
The sons are scumbags too
I 💯 believe he was victimized by his father and had the same "Stockholm Syndrome" type of feeling for his father. It's absolutely appalling the way they defend their father and turned their backs on their mother because she realized that it was true. Sickening, absolutely sickening.
So does his uncle, the perpetrator's brother.
So does herself. She did have some problems. Many problems.
I believe he abused all his sons they all have this type of Stockholm syndrome. Its fucking devastating
I think they were all looking at the books and pictures
It's bizarre how none of the sons or even weird mother showed any signs of disgust about Arnold's sick magazines.
What a strange family.
Because it was obviously normal in that household and you can see the hate they have for the mother , especially the fella David he is probably just like his father he seems think his father shit smells like roses
I believe the children and wife never saw the magazines. They were taken in the first moments of this case when the police enacted the search warrant. Also so many overlook the poor interrogation techniques the police employed on the “victims”. This doc doesn’t actually show any proof of guilt. They lean in the other direction...
The mother is the one ostracized
thats how they cope, they swept it under the rug duh
@@amaliasafaryan4256 exactly! With proof they still focused on the one untruth if there was one. This pervert admitted to child porn and molestation but the one thing the boys focussed their attention on was the testimonies of the children. What a shame. This pervert was evil and the mum knew it . Child porn in the home, a confession of sorts via letters and admission to his family , counselor and lawyer and we’re suppose to believe that it stopped there ?? Hmmmm
Narcissism is strong in men in this family. Mom was bullied by her own family.
I thought the same thing.
I thought the same thing!!!! Poor woman
The fact that Arnold Friedman's brother is openly gay ,yet he claims to have no memory of Arnold having had an incestuous homosexual relationship with him as a child is both ridiculous and very telling. Jesse's claiming that his father had a sexual relationship with him to his attorney (who has almost zero motivation to have lied about it), saying/admitting the same thing in court to the judge, and then later in a video tape saying it was all trumped up by his attorney, is ridiculous. Dad (Arnold) was a child molester who ultimately couldn't keep his hands off (at least one of?) his own kids, admitted to with regularity, over a lengthy period, molesting his younger brother, and later in life even a close friends child and possibly others. What is there to defend about the guy? To me both Jesse's brothers seem off as well, with the oldest choosing a profession that regularly puts him in proximity to children. Of course the mother felt left out. This was some kind of twisted incestuous 'boys only club' the father created/nurtured with his own kids and others to satisfy his long standing pedo desires. No doubt secrets will be taken/lies will be perpetuated to the grave with this group.
He used hypnotism on them to cover his tracks. That's why they don't remember.
Owning child porn alone in my opinion is enough to constitute the death penalty
I agree . That child in the photo is a PERSON. A real live person .
Yes. Because of them, children were killed. Maybe their bodies live on, but who they were was destroyed. There is no cure for pedophiles and pederasts. There is no treatment that works.
As reprehensible as child porn is, you are suggesting that it is far worse than murder, and I can’t agree with that.
Murder is better than child porn and child molestation. Once you’re dead you don’t have to deal with the horrific trauma that abuse of minors results in
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
What a horrible group of men. The fact that their mother was at peace and was more happy after they were locked up says a lot. The father clearly confessed to being an abuser and they still didn't want to believe it. They need their heads checked.
I absolutely despise David. I do not understand how a son could hate his mother so much. This video is so hard to watch as I keep feeling like vomiting. I’m having to take frequent breaks. I really would like to beat the crap out of David and if I just knew where he was, I may…no, I’m not going to jail for anyone. Karma will get him.
Or she enabled it?
@@RayFinkle05 she seemed pretty damned unwilling to stand for it to me. sure she stayed by her husbands side and supported him emotionally but she did not plead his innocence a single time. she sacrificed any chance she may have had to be accepted by her sons because she wasnt willing to cover for the father. pretty fuckin far from enabling.
@@RayFinkle05back then women turned a blind eye,i think she had inklings and save face etc
@@massivel She knew her husband looked at child pornography.
The most telling part is when he told the lawyer to move tables cause he was getting aroused from a dad rocking his son. He obviously had 0 self control and did this all his life.
That poor mother, surrounded by all these delusional, abusive and toxic men
The family's level of denial is truly scary.
Some of the stories are absurd i mean the kids would be bleeding out of there asses and vaginas there’s no way that leap frog thing was real…..that one kid who says he stole the tape is lying about everything the only thing that is real is he was a pedophile and CP
He was caught with child porn, molested his own brother, but still says he was innocent. What a scumbag he was
@@lyricalstyles Don't forget what he said to Jesse's lawyer about a little boy in the visitor's room making him aroused!
Nah, it's really common.
@Johnconno doesn't make it any less scary, that actually makes it more scary ... even though I already got to experience the denial, myself.
There's no excuse for how disrespectful the sons are to the mother.
it’s obvious they were brainwashed by their father from childhood ☹️
Absolutely not. They are totally disrespectful and rude to her. They broke her
I kept hoping the father would defend his wife rebuke his son's for their disrespect..but it never happened, shameful
That’s how my step mother allowed her kids to treat my father and us. Absolutely disgusting that they have such little respect for their mother in this, ESPECIALLY with their father being such a monster.
Jews, woman mean nothing apart from being a vessel for babies
The sons mirroring how they’d seen their father treat their mother is really sad. Such contempt and disrespect because she wouldn’t do what they wanted her to. They had no idea what she knew of him as her husband. If they held onto their misogyny, I feel sorry for any of their wives.
I was molested by my older brother from the time I was 9 to my early teens. The emotional pain has never left me. He was an efficient liar and my mother wore blinders. The amount they didn’t notice is truly amazing
So sorry!!
you should've got your brother to admit it while your mum listened from another room
and or
tell Jesus Christ because I let someone in my house once who I thought was my son, he looked so much like him!
But Jesus took me outside in a dream and showed me beezlebul covering itself in human forms, it had two different identities of my last two boyfriends that Jesus showed me what it was doing!
When I woke up, it was at my front door!
I know the vision is true because I have proof that devil does put on human form and show up as someone you know!!
Especially if your divorced and your kids are spending time with both parents!
Satan asked God for human skin in exchange for a man who will do anything to save his own life, Job 2:4.
You'll see if you don't believe me, Jesus will show you, ask Jesus!
SOMETIMES IT'S BEEZLEBUL TAKING ON HUMAN FORM AND GETTING INTO YOUR HOUSE!!
(Police can't help you in that)
So was I. My brother did horrible things to me up until I could really fight back. From there he told everyone I was mean and crazy but yet I kept his secret. My mother would even throw it up in my face that my brother called me crazy. Until the day I exploded about her precious son. He was a monster with multiple victims. Me being his main one. She never said another word.
@@thanksmuch8547wth are you on abt waw
@@thanksmuch8547new copypasta just dropped
The dysfunction in this family is staggering. I’m floored by the father’s admission of how he assaulted his little brother. And the boys STILL sided with their sicko father after hearing that and how he continued to be attracted to children as he grew into adulthood? Disgusting
theyre so fcked up from being groomed and molested by him for years and years. their entire world view is warped from birth and they would need to spend years in therapy untangling it
Those men were brainwashed many years ago since they were very young. I don't understand why they praise the Father but that's the only thing I could think of.
And his brother has all the tell tale signs of a scared liar.
@@aprillovesgolf7042 my gutinstinct having researched it extensively is that he only abused Jessie
It's cause the sons are pedos as will.
The way the wife was like, he just meditated to these pictures, fkn makes me sick.
She's fucked in the head.
Wow, the mother put the nail on the head when she said" they were a gang and she wasn't part of the gang". Probably due to the way the father treated her.
plus the fact the Father obviously didn't have any intrest in women whatsoever, its no wonder they all grew up so hostile towards her... sick, twisted and obvious!!
It's funny I never saw any girls in that computer class but I might be reaching
fr. she put it perfectly. i honestly feel bad for her. she had 3 kids, she might have probably struggled with post partum and depression ("I didn't know what I was doing" and how she describes how arnold had sex with her like he was washing the dishes...) and she was just neglected for it, while the father was out molesting other children. he admitted everything, even being afraid of molesting his own kids. he looks guilty in every scene and his sons still stand up for him. ugh.
Gay men who marry women are always terrible husbands, but the women are to blame for being with a homosexual. If ur man doesn't want to have sex with u every time you're together there is something wrong with him.
@@davidmarvy6788 Great way to blame the victim. You can F right off.
I'm in my '80s when I was a young girl and we found out 11-year-old got molested or that a man tried to pick her up. Honestly you had women that would say I wonder what she did to entice him. I kid you not. Just a few years ago there was a girl that was molested by her gym teacher and my aunt said I wonder what she did that enticed him and made him molester. Believe me I went off on my aunt like there was no tomorrow. When I was 11 my neighbor tried to molest me. But I kicked in between the legs and ran. I also knew if I was to tell my mom she would have said what did you do to entice him. I know she would have. So I hid and I would never tell anyone until I was in my forties. But it haunted me everyday. I would not be caught alone around him at all. It's a horrible feeling to go through your life. But I can't imagine if he honestly got a hold of me. My dad would have killed me. But I also know if I told my dad my mom would have come back after me. But I do know my dad would have killed the man and went to prison. And I didn't want my dad going to prison. too much is this goes on and for women to turn their head it's evilness. A lot of women are afraid to be alone they think oh at least I got a husband that's nonsense. Nowadays there's help. But I also understand about a woman being controlled mentally. I any molester should be hung by their genitals until dead.
Much hugs.
It’s stunning the amount of denial the sons exhibit while defending their father, a self-confessed pedophile, which includes the vicious and unrelenting verbal abuse of their mother.
unbelievable
I hate those boys men abusers of women.
And the father allowing it. Then half assed saying enough. But clearly not meaning it. In other words sending the message for them to continue/encouraging it.
@@angellayaright9009 poor woman having married this monster
So he can always be the "good guy," the "cool dad," while the mother is a doormat to be stepped all over.@@angellayaright9009
The way the brothers handled all of this, their attitude, the way they carried themselves, spoke and behaved...was absolutely disgusting and flippant and just horrible. I feel the way they hated their mother and put their father on a pedestal, was pathological and sick and a learned behavior. They all act like a pack of victimized wolves, attacking everyone while also feigning ignorance and painting a false picture of perfection. So sad and twisted.
More like crazed hyenas, not wolves. I have too much respect for wolves. LOL
Is a total waste of human beings. You are spot on Because you can’t be a decent human being and know this went on and did nothing so they don’t act natural and in fact there’s quite a few places where they say I don’t wanna talk about it there’s probably a heap a conflict laying there upon the souls of the innocent children
Thank you for this comment. Thank you, because I really appreciate hearing how a stranger with keen eyes & a good heart can see the truth & the horror despite the way predators lie about their behaviour & invalidate & silence victims. It gives me hope.
And Jesse's last court performance. Definitely no tears !! Guilty but not sorry. Totally removed. Bet all 3 boys were victims but he liked Jesse best.
Sounds like a democommie
So many act like this wasn’t something going on everywhere. As the years go by and I am almost 60, the horrors I have seen and heard of from all kinds of “regular “ people is staggering. Molesting children is far more common then we care to admit. It’s the real pandemic and it’s horrifying to know mothers who ignored it. And there are many. I am adding this as an apology to the young men who were molested by women as well. And that is close to home. There are no boundaries with this evil.
Yep. I started to realize this in my late teens/early 20s, and began realizing that the vast majority of people I shared a deeper than surface level relationship ship with had all been in some kind of inappropriate interaction with an adult as a child. It's usually a family member, or someone close to them.
Also the amount of caretakers who don't believe, or minimize and shrug off allegations is also heartbreaking.
@@yiztheskiblu I am 58 years old and i have always led a very minimal friend world. With that being said I could write a book on the people I know of who have had sick incest or abuse stories. If one person can have so many stories there must be millions. People are all in on this idea of its jut the rich and famous. We also need to admit it is also right next door. As i said this is the true pandemic in my mind.
It's prevalent globally
@@yiztheskiblu many don't tell until they are adults and by that time their story lacks credibility, and in some cases, their abusers are deceased
I’m only discovering this evil in my early 50’s and horrified I wasn’t aware of such things.
I guess I led a sheltered life with my parents still married and NEVER WERE abusive, violent or unloving/unsupportive.
My heart aches realising this was not the average childhood like I had always assumed.
To see the aftermath now after experiencing a physiologically abusive relationship - I began digging deeper on WHY someone could end up being the total opposite of who they initially presented to be. How could they sabotage such a priceless gift and cause so much trauma for no reason?
It all goes back to adverse/abusive childhood trauma.
These mental health industries are in the business of misdiagnosing/over medicating not addressing the core issues.
No money or Loosh in that 🤷🏼♀️
These judicial authorities, pretend politicians, CEO’s & people of high influence are in the business of
trafficking/peDo feelia/Satanic rituals - born into satanist families, go to Demorlay Mason schools, often had their gender transitioned to the opposite sex!!! I kid you not - most of these people are trans -
Born Male now Female
Born Female now Male
- must marry/partner with the opposite and do the same all over again with their own children.
This goes way way back to ancient times - history hides the truth and gaslights deception. Only now they have just become so brilliantly good at extracting maxim quality Loosh, its surveillance, and the silencing.
PEOPLE!! Watch Part 2 before you make a comment. It changes everything.
This has to be one of the most dysfunctional families I've ever heard of. I really believe that the father abused all three of his sons, not just the one. The one son David working with children just disgusts me. The video he made shows just how mentally disturbed he really is. The former student interviewed while laying on the couch is not only creepy, but I think he's lying through his teeth. The son who was convicted drove in the car and said nothing happened, that he saw nothing. And then he got up in court and said that his father raised him "confused" and he wished that it "never happened". The whole family blatantly outright lies every chance they get. I wonder why the third son wasn't involved in the documentary?
where can i see the second part to this? or what is it called.
I didnt even know there was a second part to this.
I thought the exact same thing about the one former student!! He DEFINITELY was lying....it was so very obvious!!
Witness and both cops do not come across as upstanding people, far from it. Interesting is, they all get questioned on shady comments and they just let them brush it aside like nothing
Where is part two ?
I agree that the former student was lying. In fact the interviewer caught him in an inconsistency and called him out.
I'm left speechless about how upset these people are that the father was caught and in trouble. Not that they are HORRIBLE horrible people and abused innocent children. The brother saying "Oh no, they stepped on his glasses and he was blind." WHO TF CARES?! THIS MAN IS ---EVIL---
My neighbor growing up was an older couple who had a son and daughter. The daughter was a wild child. We were always told by the mom was to stay away from the dad. He was just creepy to look at and would stare at us little kids. Years later that wild child girl came to visit my mother like she always did( she stated she thought of my mom as a sister) she admitted that her dad was molesting her all through childhood and her mom knew and did nothing. That’s why she was rebellious. These people are sick
We had a neighbor like this with a rebellious daughter, only difference is her mom never warned us as children. He was very strict, the mother very soft spoken and always seemed nervous. She knew exactly what he was doing. I went back to confront him when I was older but he died a few months earlier. I wanted to tell his wife but she was looking after her daughter’s baby (father unknown)... she knew but didn’t want to hear it coming from my mouth, it was in her eyes. I never forgot and still at times have nightmares. It never goes away.
That's sad af.
You understand my anger.
I feel like this mother just looked away but she knew all along.
She is trying to play a victim.
I see right through it.
Those sons should be investigated too.
Probably explains why some adults are afraid of clowns🤡 😢
Goes to show some people shouldn’t be parents. I can’t imagine having ANY child coming to me and telling me they were abused and I just sit back and do nothing. And if it was my child- that dude would end up with his you-know-what cut off.
Very good point Patrice
I have never seen 3 boys more disrespect for their mother. It’s sickening.
psychotic and definitely not to be trusted around children. Their father had been molesting children for a long time to be so bold playing leap frog and sodomising the neighbourhood boys.
Its a disgrace how the mother of these boys is disrespected by them and called all sorts of names and they idolise their father who can do no wrong in their eyes. Especially David the clown. Has he for one minute actually thought what his "innocent" father was doing with such disgusting magazines..... where there is.smoke there is fire
And filming it too.
That woman didn't deserve to be called a Mother, whatever version of this you believe.
She didn't support her husband or son.
She demanded her older sons leave the house the night before her youngest son was going to prison for a long time.
She didn't confront her husband at any point in the marriage until it affected her personally.
She was a woman who stood for nothing and fell for everything.
She said she started to live after her husband and son went to prison.
I have no respect for her just watching this. 🤦🏾♀️
@@Solistastyle you are a very sick, deluded person…yeah she is the bad guy🤦♀️
After watching this it is clear to me that the boys have been groomed by their father in a specific way. To believe he was just perfect and that he could do no harm. I feel so bad for the wife. But even the uncle. It seems like the men in this family have some serious serious issues.
why would you feel bad for the mom? she knew that he was a pedo before he was charged with this. You don't just go to couples therapy because your husband molested some boys at your vacation house. She's a sick sick sicko too
All the boys are deranged!
The acting Jesse did in court just shows how deranged he is,....the way the brothers band together against their mother is deranged
Child molesters need to be jailed for life,no ifs and buts.
they deserve the death penalty
Extermination. They never stop. They will continue to take the lives from innocent little children. If the offenders are allowed to live, they will continue the abuse that results in murder of a child's life....lives of prostitution, severe depression, drug abuse, suicide. No, it is fairer to end the life of the abuser. They only APPEAR normal, they are monsters!!
Definitely
Totally agree!
They need much more severe consequences
Not every child is molested. Molesters avoid kids with strong self worth and parents that listen to them.
Children that are neglected, come from single parent homes, lonely kids, abused and beaten kids - are far more likely to become serial victims of childhood rape.
It's as if we have a neon flashing sign above our heads that says " no one cares about this one"... they see us coming from a mile away...
My own mother sold me as a wee child of 2 years old until I ran away at 12.
No one cared to help me, everyone knew, EVERYONE KNEW...
#metoo like my mom did that to me and people
I told people and no one stopped it.
So I forgot and dissociated until the nightmares started.
Kills me to read this. I wish I could hug you I’m sorry.
@@devonsmith5135 I'm so sorry you went through this...
My mother was the meanest women I ever met, she thought I was spoiled and a brat because I refused to play nice.
I never letthat woman see me cry, I refused to give her the pleasure.
Something about our body language or the way we look at the ground when we walk, never smile to avoid some pervert from thinking we are smiling for them, draws them to us...
Predatory adults know who we are on sight - they can spot us from miles away...
In another feed I have some man telling me how it's not the men's fault, as if men are no less responsible for their actions than a rutting dog around a bitch in heat...that I should just be angry with my mother, not the men who abused me while I cried and begged...they should get a free pass...it's so darn frustrating trying to get men to see that if they were not out looking for children to molest, mother's like mine who are drug addicted, wouldn't have that option of selling their kids...that we should blame the female and not the men...
As bad as it was what my mother did, she wasn't the one molesting me, those were men. Men took pleasure in my torture, not women...who is more evil? The one committing the act or the one being taken advantage of?
I find whenever someone is willing to excuse the behavior of others it is because they share similar interests...
Stay strong, love yourself and forgive yourself.
You were just a child, not responsible for the actions of adults...
Lay that burden down a the feet of those it belongs to...it's not yours to own or carry...forgive the child who was unable to fend off adult advances.
Love yourself. ❤
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Your first two paragraphs are spot on observations. I am sorry you experienced what you did. You sound very mature and wise.
She is like my mother. Easier to ignore and deny than protect her children. I could go on but I won’t. My kids are safe, and I’m proud I’m not like my mother.
Well done on breaking the cycle 💪🤗
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She took the right side not her sons side..I would do the same..If my husband and sons have dozens of child pornograpy and if my husband confessed with me about him molesting ONLY one child which became only two kids infront of therapist I would definetly leave him..look at the part two..this documentry is biased..they did not even interviewed half of the victims..In one interview jessy had detailed his crimes its on youtube...I will not take my husbands or sons side who has ruines 17 kids future and life
Absolutely killed me when David said something to the effect of: if she (his mother) was so unhappy in her sex life/life in general, then why didn’t she say something…”Where was she for 30 years?!?!?”
Ummmm…raising you, you weirdo…!!!
Well...early on in the documentary he put that underwater on his head and told us he was an a-hole! That came shining through in this twisted family tale!
The interesting thing is they blamed the mother for a lot of things. Why?
The whole family is bizarre. This is an awful story of denial and manipulation by a broken family. Disgusting.
They are all so disturbed, each in their own way.
Why is the one son David, so concerned about his mom's sex life with his "daddy"??
It's very strange their use of the word mommy and daddy at their age as well just... yeah not right in the head. Some kind of disconnect happening here.
But seriously I never have seen someone who talked about their mom being sexually "ignorant" from anyone else on earth only David.
And "what does aroused mean" ?? Are you kidding me???.?!!! He's saying he got hard when he was with a little ass kid ! Nothing to overthink here david!!!!
@@thepeachfaerie Why is the one son David, so concerned about his mom's sex life with his "daddy"??
It's very strange their use of the word mommy and daddy at their age as well just... yeah not right in the head. Some kind of disconnect happening here.
But seriously I never have seen someone who talked about their mom being sexually "ignorant" from anyone else on earth only David.
And "what does aroused mean" ?? Are you kidding me???.?!!! He's saying he got hard when he was with a little ass kid ! Nothing to overthink here david!!!!
@@beaubanhagel3345 cause he was jealous of the mom as a sexual competitor.
Bizarre 🤪
The strangest thing is how as the boys grew up, they turned into spitting images of their father. It s creepy that they idolize him soooo much that they are turning into his clones.
It's known as Stockholm syndrome.
When the victim identifys with the abuser .
How they kept calling him daddy... I wonder they must have been groomed as well... fucking sick
L unica sana di mente in questa famiglia è la madre ,il resto disturbati e mostri
Stockholm syndrome
Yes in a manner of speaking, people often protect their abusers @@sitluxetluxfuit4481
The fact every man in the family blamed and abused the wife of the pedophile says loads about them. Misogyny to an insane degree. Those sons should NEVER get married or have kids.
Also the fact they only made excuses for Arnold, felt for HIS misery in prison, when he was the perpetrator. His brother, whining about his poor good brother...and his baaaad wife who divorced him.
Glad she found a second chance with a hopefully decent man. I eould never let David the clown near a child. And his hatred of his mother is palpable. He seems to be in a childish state of blaming everyone but his cowardly father, who chose the easy way out.
And that headstone ...HORRIBLE. Lije his victims never mattered. The most selfish narcissistic family..
I cannot believe those sons have such little respect or compassion for their mother. Regardless of him being a literal child molester, he was for sure a pedophile, he admitted to disgusting things. How those boys treated their mother is horrible.
I have a really hard time believing that man didn't touch his kids. The fact his brother claims that he didn't molest him, when he admitted to it, and the brother turned out gay?
This whole story is heartbreaking regardless. I actually sobbed at the end when Elaine hugged her son. The desolation of a family. The absolute horror and trauma. The worst thing the dad did in the end was to not admit it all to his sons.
This left me feeling a deep sadness, and it barely touched the lives of the victims.
There’s no way I’d excuse my father of such heinous vile crimes towards children. This is sick and sad as hell at the same time.
They're pedophiles too
Denial...awful
The sons need to be investigated too imo
@@moenay1291 DEFINITELY
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The accusations are outrageous. There's no way that what they were accused of actually happened. No way.
Who else got goosebumps when they said David was a clown working with kids? Immediately got John Wayne Gacy vibes. Why he chose a job that puts him in close proximity with kids. And his instinct to put underwear on his head... That was very telling. A very disturbed man indeed. I feel bad knowing they were all most likely molested by their father and made to hate their mom.
Applying your reasoning; The children of killers should also stay away from society as any interest to associate with them should be seen as suspicious!
@@roseaduke8835 this is reaching. If my father AND brother were accused of what they had been accused of, I would IMMEDIATELY make a career change. You wouldn't catch me with another child for as long as I lived. ESPECIALLY if they were guilty. David's decision to remain hell bent on his clown "career" is disturbing at best.
@@amandalockhart2454 It’s a good point. I’ll bet if this clown showed up for Rose’s kids, she’d slam the door in his face.
David wasn't the one being accused his career had nothing to do with the case.
Women can do that as well some times to boys. Don't blame everything on men.
I can not believe the way those boys treated and disrespected their mommie. That was unbelievable and sickening.
The journalist who is attempting to clear these monsters is appalling...
His son David has serious issues. His denial is scary. “What does that sentence even mean”? His father literally wrote it down!
This.
Totally!! The way he talks and looks to the camera...
He was a cloud for kids!! Somebody investigate that please!!
All of them!
Then is a clown. Hmm. Makes you think
At that time David was making major money working in NYC
I’ve never in my life seen an entire family out of touch with reality in my life 😢
I was just thinking that! Shocking!
I have. My own.
What? There are “entire” families who believe in “god”. I think an entire family believing in an omnipotent wizard in the sky is a bit weirder than this.
@@NineNineOne believing in god is weirder than child m*l3sters? Oof.
Tell me you're a liberal without telling me.
I've worked in this field. It's very common, sadly.
The oldest son is in a state of embarrassment and denial. He expresses it with anger instead of facing the truth.
My daughter asked how I can watch shows about child abuse and molestation. I told her I think I’m so shocked, and it is so unbelievable to me- so horrific- I’m trying to wrap my mind around it. I could never have imagined sexually abusing children would be an actual industry that brings in more than the airline industry.
Honestly these shows make us more aware of the real world and protecting our children!
@@melindamilian3624wow,why did it take this old azz doc to make you realize that,your head must be in the sand,lady😝
This father tried to keep his boys immature.he liked it that way.
Great point.
The entire family is in denial. The males in this family are child like. It's sad, pathetic, and they are dangerous ppl.
@@MS-yc2tb agree 💯
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Dad certainly is a narcissistic psychopath.
They seem unhinged, both in the tapes and in present. Just looking at them interact or hearing them talk, a lot of red flags go off.
I think all the boys in that family were abused by the dad hence why they are for the father not their mother
Those filthy, disgusting and repulsive things hanging between their legs is what caused the horror.
One thing I've learned from talking to various law enforcement officials about kids being witnesses in cases (not just predatory cases), is that in general, kids don't lie about what's happened to them when questioned.
Tha'ts not true. There has been case after case where an entire group of kids lies. Their statemetns are usually so over the top as to be unbelievable, just like some.. of these accounts. They led those children in to what to say. One whole town did this to a family up in Canada , They were proven innocent. Now in this one the dad probably did it, just like he said he did. But the kids accounts are ridiculous over the top entirely. This false memory things is very real.
Respectfully, kids lie all the time in giving testimony. Sometimes it’s not even intentional. Their testimony is also very vulnerable to leading questions and the expectations of the interviewer
They lie all the time. It's a proven fact. They want to tell you what you want to hear. So you have to be careful you don't lead them on with leading questions. If you did some research, you will see some infamous cases. These cases taught that the need for new methods of questioning children was needed. Those law enforcement officers must've been very bad at what they do if they actually said that. BTW this family is guilty as sin.
Anybody remember the satanic panic of the 1980s? Kids can be easily manipulated by professionals.
I was molested by my aunt's husband for years. When it came out she stood by his side. The judge said if he could he would have put her in jail also for knowing it was happening and not stopping it. I tried to tell my mother when I was nine, two years after moving away from him, and she said that's nice. It was while watching a show starting how children will often try to tell their parents about abuse by saying "me and so and so have a secret". I told her that and she said "that's nice"! Five years later my step mother finally got me to admit what happened.
What a dangerous family. Thank God they were caught. The older brother being a clown for children is certainly disturbing - if they were such computer geniuses, couldn't he get any other job rather than being around children? SMH. Disgrace.
EXACTLY!!!! How tf ppl can actually believe their deluded excuses is beyond me. Absolutely evil
Those kids are fucking disgusting 🤮
Absolutely! Pure evil
It's disgusting.... Sounds like it runs in the family
I thought the clown job was a strange choice of a career too. I wonder how many parents would want him around the kids. I’m sure all of the boys were abused in some way. Especially with the way they were all so protective of him. That’s typical Stockholm syndrome.
Yeah and when he was shown his fathers admission of sexually assaulting two boys "what does that sentence even mean, so he was sexually aroused? You could put your arm around somebody or lean on a tree and be sexually aroused." investigate the wacko the clown please. 😂
So many families are just like this and it keeps going from generation to generation. If you know someone who broke away from abuse give them lots of love because it’s so hard, and they are not only brave but they are without family. That’s why it continues on…..
We really need an alternative to families if your own family is toxic.
I'm very much pro family but as you said, if someone's family is bad, where do they go?
In abusive and incestuous families no bond is stronger than the bond of denial. That's how abuse remains undetected. And knowing that at least some of the abuse could have been prevented if you were only believed will break and crack you open beyond repair despite the other pain that one has endured which was so horrible that many of us "forget" until the time comes. And when the time comes, so do memories. Humanity makes me want to throw up.
roy hazelwood who was fbi profiler for sex crimes and basically helped write the book on sexual predator psychology said they found that through SELF REPORT most predators had engaged in incest with their own children, had homosexual relationships, and also had an array of other fetishes.
these people are everywhere
Yes, I'd prefer to live on a huge island with a few select friends and mainly animals.
Mostly men makes me wanna throw up
Because no women initiated wars , raped men or women or oppressed men as house slaves, lead “great” conquests to aboriginal lands and seized the whole population.
No current mass murderer populist leader were women (hitler,stalin,putin,mao,ayatollah xy,korean,chinese,every nations’ sick psycho rulers, corporate ceo..s)
Every week 1-2 women are killed by their expartners/current partners
The Bible, the religious laws enabled all this, helped sick societies to be formed.
All MALE dominance over
- women!
-other weaker social groups like kids, homosexuals,disabled,blacks, poor
- everything is about OWNING property
Men are in charge of OWNING everything
Women were not allowed to go to school, to vote, to have ANYTHING!!
Marriage was (IS) a means of a male to have offspring with which he could ensure inheritence will be taken on. HIS name will remain in the “knowledge” for all.
Women dont have their mothers’ name when they are born.
They have to bear their father’s name - meaning: they belong ti the fathers’ property
When they get married they get their husbands’ name, meaning now they are the property of their husbands!!
Its a disgusting crime men committed against women selling and buying women between them.
And yes, actually MANY MEN eeven today THINK they OWN their wife, they OWN their CHILdREn.
Sick world which men created
So , Nooooooo!!!!!
I will not take the blame and say all the humanity is responsible for what has happened in human history.
Its a fucking lie.
Women were not allowed to be in ANY decision making position since the Laws Of Hammurabi.
Then the Bible secured they stayed under the “supervision” of men. Just like iskamic laws did the same.
Same tendency happened in Asia, India no matter they also had originally less rigid religions and “seemingly” more nature friendly spiritual trends.
Since agriculture started, men took over gradually everything!
Women used to be the guardians of family possessions, were responsible of distributing everything equally…
Well that changed a lot.
I wont continue this
But …
Bear in mind:
You as a woman couldnt have been accused of shit history of humanity in the last 6-7000 yrs.
Cos YOU HAD NO RIGHTS!
Educate yourself in patriarchy, kingdoms, social classes, women’s rights, everything.
Educate yourself how Europe conquered America (not women of course..), how Christian male god admirers murdered the whole populations (millions of people) of Native Americans. How the first male priests founded the first brothels to sell prostitutes ….
Its all about
MEN
Im sorry
You can see these stupid ones here. They were the ones forming our societies
I hate that this family is literally condoning their own dad looking at children being abused.
Because they themselves are child abusers.
I’ve never seen an entire family in such denial.
I guess that’s why not one of them ever showed an ounce of compassion for the victims.
God bless those abused.
David is one huge red flag....and by listening to the tapes, so are the other brothers...these "men" are absolutely disgusting...really disturbing...that poor mother...
So the boys hate the mom, but they insist being around her to degrade her. I’m glad she put her foot down.
Doesn't matter that he was a great teacher,he is a very sick person along with his son. This is so disturbing.
I felt like throwing up when I read what was on the father’s tombstone. I really hate the clown. The post above is correct. These monsters choose their victims wisely and that’s why he didn’t go after some of the students. I also hated the video of Jesse dancing around before his sentencing and then suddenly manufacturing those tears in court.
For real though.
Some of the most powerful and respected people in the community can be the most fucked up individuals behind closed doors.
@@rosepatterson951 got that right ugh
The fact that he was concerned enough about his own feelings towards children to seek medical advice and STILL chose a career in which he'd be surrounded by children speaks volumes about his character. I don't care how intelligent he was or what kind of a teacher he was, he should have NEVER stepped foot down the education path in the first place.
You mean sons! You know that all 3 of them are also pedophiles!
The way the kids reacted to all of this happening to their dad is the most telling to me.
Also not all SA happen while the victim is kicking and screaming. Groomer lure kids to think its normal or ok so that they don't do that.
“He just wanted to look at the pictures and… meditate”
My eyes have never rolled so hard in my life, I thought they were going to pop into my skull and disappear forever
The “adult” boys seem,act very very infantile. Silly, childish grown up babies.
Very, very sad story -for all involved. Tragic.
And the one still calls his mom “MOMMY”……. It’s so weird.
Nah, that's how they all act on Long Island. That community is ridiculous.
its trauma
Im 58 and been accused of acting like a child on more than 1 occasion but i was never molested
@@passin_gas4836 i dont think you understand what the original poster is saying... the men in this video are very underdeveloped mentally, they cant even accept the fact their dad went to prison. They are acting like fatherless 50 and 60 year olds. Like they never had that figure growing up. With their dad being busy with little boys and such. Pretty sick. Got what they deserved if you ask me. Predator behavior is not tolerable.
What a messed up family. The sons are in denial. The mother gets all the hate that should go to the father.
The son's are pathetic pos's. How dare they attack the mom n get mad at her for not blindly agreeing that he was innocent. "He did nothing wrong, the police are after him" like EXCUSE ME?! did y'all miss the part where he was getting child porn from other countries and had child porn hidden behind a piano in the office he wouldn't let anyone else go in? He brought this on the family, not her. She gave those ungrateful mfks life n they talk down to her and demand respect they haven't earned. I would have kicked them out. Ur over 18 don't know how to act BYE!! She definitely turned an eye to shit going on to keep her peace of mind, and let shit go to keep up appearances. She clearly had mental health issues too
Yes!
Mother is the scapegoat. These men are ridiculous - to disbelieve the truth they must look at the Why? Did this happen old saying Smoke there is fire 🔥.All the father says is ssshh omg he’s a Lunatic sly and cold playing with his sons whilst mum fights too be heard she is worn out.At least she is more open than the rest.
Ikr?
Yes, she did the best she could, and got the hate of her children and others. Everyone is forgetting the father was the guilty one. Wow, the world we live in.
The mother was treated badly because she was on to her pedophile husband. So they wanted to paint her as crazy. She was crazy because of what she knew. How could a wife not know her husband is very sick.
What really bothers me is the outward attitude from the brothers that they shouldn't be bothered at all or questioned. That they're the ones being inconvenienced. It's not innocence. It's the arrogance of a family that (for various reasons, some cultural, some familial) thinks it's entitled to use the rest of us as a larder.
You can always run to Israel via the Law of Return, David. If things get too hot, just go where they shelter pedophiles. (Look that up.)
I never used to believe all that stuff about some people. That they feel free to use us as a larder.
It is true about the amount of pedos in Israel too.
Also look who runs the media.
It's hard to wrap my head around how deeply the 3 sons are not in touch with their emotions -- heartbreaking, really. Everything is a game or a joke to avoid their pain. So sad.
denial to avoid prison .. mentally distancing themselves from their pedophilic crimes
They can only express anger and silliness and not much in between. After they "grew up" they didn't act like adult men.
@@junemarshall-kingsley566it’s said people that have been sexually abused stop mentally “growing” at the age of their abuse. Maybe that’s why all the boys (Arnold’s sons) act like kids even as adults.
These men are so immature... They remain boys, and their little club is so toxic. I feel very sad for the mother.. No one wants to believe that their husband is a pervert, but she remained stoic enough to refuse to exonerate him despite the pressure.
They treated her so terribly. Everything was her fault somehow. I started out liking everyone and then was just horrified. Jesse's lawyer hired a psychiatrist to evaluate him before trial. The psychiatrist diagnosed him as a narcissistic psychopath.
@@MoniMoniDeMonika Those were my thoughts. And, there were/are more in that "family." ☮
I completely agree with this portion but I have a hard time believing she was unaware of his toxicity and abuse towards his own son prior. I'm a mother we have instincts.
@@jenniferleedy6024 There's a difference between knowing something is off and being able to confidently sniff out CSA. Unless you know what to look for, I don't think most people without personal experience would be able to figure it out.
No different then society today. Kids shacking up in their parents home and failing to launch. Parents who had children but never nurtured or poured anything into them. Too busy about me myself and I. (The center of their world is me.)
This woman said he wasn’t a predator he just liked to look at the pictures and MEDITATE!!
I can’t get my jaw off the floor.
The mother... so sick
The mother was so innocent. She couldn't wrap her mind around it.
This Family manipulated their mother over years by saying she's a bad mother until she believed it and she still does
"I was there when the clown came in." Well said. All the sons are disgusting, mainly David. The fact that mum didn't disown those ungrateful creatures is testament of a mother's love.
Or her trauma from the father. The kids said he didn't like his wife. She seems so scared of even talking about him.
I'm happy to see that I'm not the only one who has an issue with David. There's something decidedly ugly or damaged in his soul imo.
@d b Arnold demonized and disrespected her all throughout their marriage and in front of their 3 son's.. Their son's learned to Disrespect their Mother she didn't disown them even the oldest David the most obnoxious one.. She's not a cold woman or she wouldn't care about her son David he treated her worse..
David scares me the most out of all of them. There is something evil there.
Maybe not. I think more codependence, emotional & situational paralysis. That's all she ever knew. Sadly. 🕉
If you have suffered child sexual abuse then you know no matter how young you was it stays with you for life, doesn’t matter how much therapy or medication it does not fade. You merely learn not to react to the memory when it enters your mind. It always amuses me that people who have not suffered abuse forget your story and trauma you’ve been through very quickly. I think its this reason that sufferers self medicate.
Very insightful comment. I was very small when I was abused, and at 62 I absolutely self medicate. So I can sleep at night, though I still have nightmares. Just the other night I woke myself up screaming.
Beautifully put.
My brother was abused my a babysitter at the age of 4. My parents never took it seriously, as the abuser was a women.
Different people have different responses.
You nailed it. This is why I advocate for a minimum of 25 years minimum for child sexual abuse crimes.
Omg!!! The utter denial of the whole family is beyond comprehension!!! They are all disturbingly SICK!!! MAY THEY ALL BURN IN HELL!!!!!😡😠😡
Anytime I hear an adult refer to their patents as Mommy/Mama or Daddy, it always raises a red flag.
The son clearly is interested in children as well. The defense of this man by his children and wife makes me sick.
100%. It didn't even bother him at all what his father did with this horrible child content.
This madness did not just start with this father - this is generations of hidden dysfunction most likely abuse..a great percentage of people have experienced some form of abuse or neglect- and live life in denial, disconnect and even unable to recall what happened to them. The denial in this family was painful to watch.
It was Arnold mother promiscuity in the bed with doing her thing with different men and who's to say that one of these men wasn't messing with Arnold and that was what he learnt
Exactly… you hear the same ish generational dysfunction with the armie hammer family.
Absolutely agree this goes further back down the generations ... And those genes are passed on and continued down the line ... I've seen it up to 14 generations - the abuse / victim/victimiser pattern getting passed on - in this case, the mother was a submissive lamb living amongst wolves.
I do not know one female amongst my friends that has not had some sort of skeevy pedo experience. Astonishing really.
My 1st thought when it said Arnold’s sister died was that she was abused too & probably killed. I thought Arnold & his brother were abused as well.
I am 71 and this documentary stirred a lot of memories from my past. Growing up, I saw a few things about my dad that made me uncomfortable. He went to R rated movies and read bad books, I did know that and now realize temptations I had that would probably not have been happening if this was not my heritage!. But just in the last few weeks my sister told me about things he did to them, beating a bunch of us, throwing down the stairs, ripping hair out, forcing my brother to leave, inappropriate touching, that would have put him in jail nowadays and our mom never intervened. Maybe she was scared?! They are 93 and 94 and have been apart for almost 50 years, since he left her with 6 kids still at home. He ran off and moved in with the secretary. I was married and 23 but it still has affected me greatly all these years.
We just traveled to his sister's 90th birthday party in another state, for 5 days, them and 4 of us "girls" (we are all retired). First, our aunt let us know our grandpa used to beat both sons and even beat her once! Was this a thing from the Depression and War years? So the 5 of us being together, we saw "the secretary" hit and kick my dad, both yelled at each other and got way worse with alcohol. Terrible. My sisters were watering down the wine and the gin she snuck in water bottles in her suitcase. Dementia is reigning now too. She is way worse than him although 10 years younger.
They never married each other and one of the yelling matches was her saying "You never married me!", and him yelling, "I asked you 3 times down on my knee and you said "'NO'!" I asked my sisters if this was true and they said "Yes". I don't know much because I was the one who got avoided, probably because I am the only one who still goes to church, the way he raised us. My mom never went. He was not a very good example. We never prayed at home for meals or anything, and also because of his pornography.
He also got her pregnant in 1950 while at college. That was me. My sisters knew because mom told them how she was so devastated when she came back from Christmas and told him. He immediately left for a week with a bunch of friends for California and left her alone. They did get married 7 months before I was born, but have never even told me this. My husband figured it out because they never celebrated anniversaries. Talk about growing up in a dysfunctional family but you don't know anything else so you think it is normal!
Our other sister that has passed away, accidently came upon my dad yelling at the next younger sister, while she was curled up on the livingroom floor, naked. They did not see her. This was when the girls were teens. My dad must have gotten worse because I was the oldest and had moved on by then and never saw this stuff.
On this recent trip, I saw that the live-in secretary was a narcissist (and what self-respecting woman would take a man away from a wife of over 20 years and six kids still at home?) I think my dad must be too. Narcissism is a new peice of education that is explaining a lot of things to me!
The worst was when my dad said "Your mom liked her horses better than me" Us girls challenged him right away about how mean he was to her in numerous ways and I said, that it was not about horses! He is so delusional. Needless to say, my kids never spent much time around him and never alone!
All three of my brothers are not living normal lives either and there are only 2 grandkids among them, belonging to the most damaged oldest brother who stays away from our dad. He is extremely hard to live with.
So much sadness and lots of praying. Thankfully, God is good!
It's amazing how detached this family is from reality.😢😢😢
“My father is pussy whipped” says the same guy who said his mother was sexually ignorant. This story was truly about generational cycles and group think. A family of woman hating/male loving men….and makes me wonder what really happened to the 8 year old sister. I knew the mother wasn’t the problem when she even admit that she wasn’t prepared for motherhood. She ADMIT IT! None of us are perfect but the character of a person is determined by whether or not they can take ACCOUNTABILITY for their actions and not blame/play victim. All the boys did was blame the mom for every damn thing. And the father was nothing short of a coward. At least he took accountability in the end by pleading guilty, but even then the son continued in all out denial. Everyone experiences hurt, trauma, pain….as kids we truly ARE victims…but what makes us is how we deal with these things as adults.
Also what a failure on the part of the therapist who told him he was ok. Just a huge fail. Lastly, some kids may have been coerced by their parents to say nothing happened. This is speculation, but I can see how some families may not want that stigma or attention placed on their child or their family.
Dont think anything happened to the sister. He was into little boys..couldn't even have sex with his wife.
The sons are in denial like his father’s brother 🤦🏽♀️🤢🤮
the brother is clearly 🌈 not like it’s bad but it’s obvious he was introduced to it .
@@badazzbarbiePOV yes!!
@@badazzbarbiePOV I was about to comment this! The one in jail is definitely someone's girl. The other brother also seems to prefer the same sex. I would say they are in denial and they were definitely also abused by their father. They have a sort of Stockholm Syndrome type of thing going on with their dad.
We just found out that our neighbour 2 doors down that owns 4 businesses, is married with 3 boys, beautiful home and family, has just been charged with rape of under age boys and having over 3 MILLION images and videos. You never know who lives next door
Holy shit
I’m a barber and fear that i don’t really know who my clients are 😅 like you never know
@@MeBeSabi |Horrible indeed. I think they should have a tattoo on their heads if they're caught. Then you could shave it so everyone could see it. Or turn them down for a haircut.
This is a scary bunch of men! The entire situation and their relationship is so hard to believe. I don't see how this lady survived it.
I know one thing: these are the three most ungrateful, despicable children ever. Good Gosh man!
The denial from his elder son right from the start to the end was horribly frightening....All evidences was presented clear and legit, yet he was genuinely belived that his Daddy was innocent...unbeliveable !!!!
Perhaps his defence bc.he is
And is what…a CLOWN!! Who else do we all know molested children that was a professional CLOWN…would you hire him for your little boys birthday party 😳😮😡🤬
he obvi was touched too and seem to be into the same activities.. just protecting each other.. its sick.. all the evidence is there.. what does he not believe?
@@lyndza1989 Did we watch the same documentary? The accusations of what they say happened are absurd. He raped 40 kids and the parents never noticed anything? No way.
Cognitive dissonance is a real thing
Any dad that I ever knew would have slapped those boys silly for the way they talked to their mother! He is the very reason those boys can blatantly disrespect her. Chances are that they have continued to treat the women in their lives that way. Funny how the boys made mom out to be the villain when she didn't deserve it and daddy just sat there like a coward.
Daddy gets to be Mr. Nice Guy and Mom has "no sense of humor" because she is not prancing around giggling like a fool in every scene.
The ex-wife is lying through her teeth, trying to play dumb! She knew exactly what was going on.
This family doesn't seem to realize the severity of his actions! This is just sad !
Interesting that none of the boys liked their mom. Listening to her during this documentary, I don't even like her. Why does she have NO family support?
i remember this and believe me they realized the severity. I was a child and young teen when many of them would be on talk shows and this case was the basis for a made for television movie. It wrecked their entire family-they lost friends and the older kids had issues because of it. So yeah they realized the severity.
@@nikkitrueblue because in jewish communities you go to the head there instead of the police and her helping the cops made her a traitor.
@@nikkitrueblue no they realize the severity of what happened to them as a result of getting caught being perverts. But none of these pedophiles in this documentary understand the level of damage nor do they care about the level of damage it causes prepubescent children to be raped. They only care about their loss and the exposure of their sickness.
Well that would make sense since he's not guilty of those "actions". What's sad is how gullible ppl are believing police & ignoring the fact that all the "victims" recanted.
The reason why his brother doesn’t remember is because when children are severely traumatized their brain often creates amnesia walls around the memory. It is a defense mechanism to ward off having a mental breakdown. Often when age those amnesia walls break down with age. This happened to my friends father and he wound up having a mental breakdown
Incredible documentary - thank you for posting it!
These people cannot recall the sexual abuse because they were traumatized and memory loss is consistent with this type of abuse
This is almost always a fallacy.
They were all groomed to believe “just pictures” are ok, and to never think too deeply about anything disturbing or abusive.
He probably told them that while he took "pictures" of them.
That’s it!!
This is one giant hot mess. All I know is never stay with a man (or woman) who looks at child pornography. And turn them in ! Those children in the photos are people and their lives were ruined.
Its amazing how the sons are treating their mother. Its so sickening its crazy.
WOW. All I can say is like father, like son. Poor woman, and no empathy for the victims. The men of that family are a disgrace to the human race.
The mother just frustrates me. ‘Just looking at pictures’ Does this woman *ever* stop and think about the horror those children in those pictures went through?! The sons, the mother…it’s just disgusting.
She's one of those who turns a blind eye to be kept up.......sickning .
Exactly! Even if he didn't molest any kids, looking at images of Children being molested makes you culpable and a participant. How can she not grasp that?! The whole family is disgusting.
@@CrystalGreenNYC I think it’s the same thing.Those poor children being abused,over and over again,from afar.All those who are working,day and night,to find,and rescue the children,and bring all their abusers to justice,are heroes.
I think you missed that she was in denial big time at that point. She was expressing what she felt at that point. She clearly stated that she didn't actually realize what it was until much later when the lawyer showed her.
The human mind is a very interesting thing.
To meditate!!!
As I watched the dynamics of this family it became self-evident that his sons are predators taught by their father. I feel so badly for their mother
How can you feel badly for her... She thought it was OK for her husband to be " meditating " over those pictures...how ridiculous..She knew what his 'meditating' was all about . She was one of those women who look the other way for fear of disrupting her comfortable life
@@jo-penford she only stated what he had said. You could tell by her body language and facial expression that she couldn’t wrap her head around it.
Those boys are innocent. You're out of your mind.
@@JackM12345100 if that’s what you believe. That’s fine. As we are all individuals and have our own opinions. Would you leave your son in their care?
It’s scary to think the older brother works with children….
He pleaded guilty because he WAS guilty and he made that decision on his own.
She thought her husband would look at the magazines and “meditate”?? Seriously lady?!?! How nieve can you be? 😞 I think you very well knew what this guy did.
The mother deserves far more respect from her sons. It's obvious she has been treated like crap for decades. They were cruel in those recordings.
No she doesn't. She failed to protect her own sons from their monster father and she walked out with him arm and arm after he plead guilty to s3x abuse charges🤢
@@Naturefan354 the males are responsible here
@@roleat So they where responsible for themselves when they where children??
She is a sick woman no respect is deserved
Divorcee existed and she stayed with him. What? Scared to work.Rather stay with a child molester.