Top 50 Songs Hurt by Jury the Most in Grand Finals (2009-2021) / Eurovision
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2021
- It's a list made of 50 #Eurovision songs since 2009 which were hurt by jury points. For that, the difference in the televote score and the jury score of every song was divided by the maximum possible amount of points from the televoting or the jury.
The video includes songs which competed in the grand finals from 2009 to 2021 excluding 2013 (because of lack of needed data, split average rankings were published instead of split scores).
In case of a tie, the difference in jury's and televote's placements is the tie-breaker.
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The public seems a lot more open minded than the jurys.
Like this year:
Italy, Finland and Ukraine were not the classic pop/chanson song and were downvoted by the jury.
Juries are boomers
Italy wasn't downovoted, they were 4th as voted by the jury. And the 3rd place had only 2pt more.
I’m happy for Go_A the Ukraine band, they are having a lot of success all over the world, their song was i think the most different and addictive of the festival, it was impossible to forget it after a couple of listening
I think the difference is really that the public doesn't take eurovision as seriously.
A song is good? Vote. A song is awful but catchy as hell? Vote. A song is bad but the staging is amazing? Vote.
The public votes for entertainment, the juries vote for quality and general relatability, but that's completely missing the point in my opinion. Eurovision is not a singing contest, it's a huge fuckin party, and the public understands that. The juries don't.
@@jonnybuijze1770 That's the idea behind a jury, but it obviously doesn't work in practice. Måneskin, Hataari and Go_A are obvious high quality music, that are a bit outside of the box. It seems the jury is far more interested in opposing innovation and alternative expressions, than look for actual quality.
Music is an art of entertainment, so acts like Keiino, Sunstroke Project, or many of the other acts that were catchy, fun, and full of party are still great music. It's not just hitting a high note or whatever. Quality in an evironment like esc is also about mass appeal.
**culture and fun exist**
juries: we don’t do that here
bc there's only politics
@@vampire_3 and this is why the rules for jury votes should be changed
@@justkay9884 Haha...and televoting isn't swayed by politics? 🤣🤣
@@TaranWanderer2 ehm why should they vote someone like Finland then
@@justkay9884 I'm not going to decipher every vote cast, but televoting is usually even more predictable than jury voting, largely due to the politics behind it.
Poland 2016 and Norway 2019 broke my heart and it still hasn’t healed...
I agree, but I will add Ukraine 2018 to this list
Ukraine 2021 and Australia 2016
@@bambooflute2589 australia 2016? they got like 300 points from the juries
@@rhd-_-2854 public broke the heart
Cyprus 2018..
Fuego is my favorite Eurovision song ever, and it still hurts that Eleni Foureira didn't snatch the victory.
Keiino, Hatari, Blind Channel, Sergey (twice), Il Volo…
Man, I feel so bad for all of them, but especially Keiino.
They won the freaking televote and jury had them out of their top ten!
Even as a non-qualifier (11th place). Keiino was my winner, and still is👏👏
Me too, bro 😭
Go_A too!
Apparently there were technical problems at the jury final. Norway wanted to play again to keep it fair. But they were denied. It could be that it cost Norway the win.
Not only out of their top 10, in their bottom 10 (18th place)
Italy's often underrated, Poland has been extremely underappreciated and Russia simply gets spaughtered by the juries everytime they have a chance to win. Politics truly rule their voting process.
The public seems to be much less political than the juries.
The juries should not have any Power tbh
Wtf no, russia gets plenty of points from jury every year.
@@belzebuba i think so too 😅 Idk why someone says Russia get unfair amount of points. Almost always Russia is on high plces or Top3. So...
I mean I would agree that bringing politics into how you vote on a song contest is not being the smartest but doesn't Russia always get a lot of points??
Norway 2019 and Poland 2016 will always break my heart💔they deserved so much better
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Poland 2016 still breaks my heart, he deserved so much better
I wonder if the juries are really professional. In my opinion they're just alliances between musicians and composers.
it's not even that they're unprofessional
it's just poLItIcS
thank god televoting exist at least we can see what people really like
@@jeremya.9709 juries should be reduced to 40%
@@jeremya.9709 Not always politics, but personal reasons top, yes. Polish jury this year gave 12 points to San Marino. Rafal and Senhit became friends during the competition and were posting a lot of stuff together on social media during the rehearsals, they even sang Waterloo together for some reason. I find it surprising, but the 12 points from polish jury just have to be connected with this.
@@jeremya.9709 Politics huh. Like Serbia getting over half of its points from televoters because its Serbia? You really should check the 2000s results if you want to look at political results.
well, televote means( in fact) some kind of alliances among countries
Jury just simply hate Poland, Russia, Italy and Turkey. The more unconventional the song, the less points it gets. Mostly only ballads have a chance to win jury points.
Estonia 2015?
Except Russia always sends the most generic and conventional songs. This year was an exception, but their entry didn't deserve more points imho.
@@themeiafy probably you’re right, but there’s no good reason for what they’ve done to Lazarevs first entry
Italy 2015 got hit by this SO SO SO SO SO SO MUCH
Well, looks like jury doesn't care about Eastern Europe(especially Ukraine, Poland, Russia) and Italy🤔
Hello? Spain. UK. DE....
@@xevi.despertaferro5452 Those countries too, but it is not just jury problem but audience's as well. Audience doesn't vote as much too
The problem is that many people will always vote for their ethnic mother country. That's why these countries always do well in tele vote.
@@rowo2774 Well, for example, as a Polish person, I wouldn't vote for Rafał's terrible performance and I guess many wouldn't as well.
And I really want TVP to give us chance to choose the performer, and not choose a person because he occasionally sings in one of it's game shows.
In my personal opinion, which will not be actually that popular as my first statement, I think Polish music is americanised very much, and bad at all.
Damn, jury really hates ethnic rythms and Italy
Oh man the jury does not like Italy lol I'm just super happy the televoting came through for Måneskin this year
Juries are simply very no fun
Their jealous because their not Italian 🙂
The jury gave over 200 points to Maneskin
They came 4th in the jury
@@esc1zach685 pretty high. People here are talking like the jury hurt Italy, when the fact is Italy won because both the jury and the audience gave tons of points to them.
Who names the juries if a bunch of "specialists" listen to Shum by Go_A and think "hmmm ,not that great!" ? Hands down it was the most creative, inventive song in the competition, the
use of folklore and techno or whatever that is,the way it's built is very effective as it is impossible to be indifferent to it and urges you to move to it, it's an experience in every way and unconventional but I guess the "experts" are like no, thanks, we only like classic ballads. Maneskin ,Blind Channel and the guys from Lithuania were also robbed cause people hate fun
They probably didn’t want to have another competition marred with more drama with Russia. First it was with Jamala, then the competition in the Ukraine itself excluding Russia, and them demanding that Maruv to not perform in Russia, resulting in her dropping out of the competition. Not that I agree with political voting, and I agree that Shum was the most creative song, all these things stacked together is probably why they’re hesitant to have another contest in Ukraine
How tf was that a good entry?
@@slayrx It represents the Slavic culture really well, and Kateryna Pavlenko used the white voice which is very common in Ukrainian folkloric songs. And she sung the song in Ukrainian because.. it's called Eurovision after all. And the style is very innovative - folk mixed with electric/techno music? That's something amazing
@@slayrx Well, it was second in televote and that proves Europe appreciates creative/original songs. Just because you don't like a song it doesn't mean it's not good.
@@slayrx Just because you don't appreciate the genre, doesn't mean it was not very good.
It is a fantastically structure piece. They managed to get the energy, build-up and suspense into a drop that usually takes seven minutes into a 3 minute song. The structure of Shum is actually a masterpiece. This is the kind of thing a jury should appreciate, not just voting for the best technical singer in a classical style. Speaking of vocals, the vocals is a very unique sound and highly typical for the theme they were going for, and it was technically well done. It is just not what you learn at typical western singing classes.
The public obviously appreciated its uniqueness and while they might not have understood the nuance in the musical buildup, that buildup is incredibly effective at communicating the mood of the song. A mood that we all kinda feel right now. The act is almost more of a ritual calling on the spring more than a musical performance. And that is calling for the spring, not just in a literal sense of the end of winter, but also in the waning of the pandemic and the party we're all looking forward to very soon.
This year, Ukraine sent an act that hits so right in so many levels. And they got rewarded by the public vote for it. But whether it is politics, or if it is their uniqueness, their success was halted by the jury.
Poland in 2014 with "We are slavic" and Ukraine in 2021 with "Shum" were such a dope song about slavic culture. I am so mad that jury put them down. Yes, I am Polish.
Greetings from Ukraine.
One more interesting fact, I dunno how the vote was in 2014 but in 2021 the jury from all slavic countries gives 0 points to GO_A - Shum. How that's possible? slavic countries dislike slavic music?
I agree abouth shum, but the polish entry looked a lot like just a trick to get slavic votes.
@@tam8539 because eastern europe hates ukraine ig
@@AngrykK Eastern Europe hates Russia so as whole world 😅 don’t misinform people
@@marinafes which is also sad, in a sense that it’s a MUSIC competition. I loved many of the Russian performances (not too much this year), and would have no problem giving them a vote. I am Ukrainian btw. I hate when people have a mindset of “oh yeah that song slaps, but I hate their country so they’re not getting my vote.”
Is it me or 80% hurt songs are from Eastern Europe?
Thank you jury for "not" mixing music with politics
Yeah, and the other 20% are Italian lol
Yeah always underrated...
"Hurt" just means that there is a large difference between audience and jury. Its common knowledge that the eastern european audiences alway give points to each other, no matter the quality of the song.
Damn stop being a crybaby... what would any country gain from being "political" in that sense? Like literally, what could possibly be a motivating factor
This is because many people will always vote for their ethnic mother country. Look up the biggest ethnic groups in Europe and you will find out why some countries will never end last, even if they send the weakest songs.
To be specific, these are the biggest differences between the televote and the jury vote, but only including the songs favoured by televoters more.
I think the calculations for hurt can be done by measuring the ratio between received points from jury and the total points they got. The smaller the percent the more hurt they were. However, that should exclude entries that received less than 100 points total, or some other arbitrary rules, to not include some weirder ratios.
Thank you for putting it this way, my dumb ass was just staring at the numbers like "I don't get it" lmao
Even here, Sergey Lazarev is 3rd😅
This is definitely a curse...
I still didn't get over the fact, that Lazarev and Il Volo didn't win😔
I'm so annoyed about 2016 Lazarev, it was such a good song and he deserves it! I do hope he comes back with a song like Take it Off!
@@azan-183 I don't think he will participate for a third time🤷♀️
@@firelady235 possibly, I do hope he will! But I think we will see Senhit for a third time, she is a Eurovision Queen!
@@azan-183 I think he won’t. It’s hard to be third twice in a row)
@@nadvildrake6816 that’s true!!
Poland 2016 has just shown a thing in the most visionable way how ESC looks like.
I remembered screaming of joy when televotes for Poland 2016 and Norway 2019 was announced.
Sincerely shocked by the difference about Szpak in 2016 😳
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Almost everypne was. Here in video it said about points different between countries. But if they show it in % how much each got by jury and televotes. Then actually I think that Poland got the mist hurted one for all over the eurovision.
5 points from jury, 222 televotes. It almost looks like joke.
sergey being third again lmao
OMG, I’m dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Poor guy. I just hope he will eventually return and win Eurovision.
@@flaviniaa he just needs to pick another country
@@Chaotixpain Moldova watching this: 👀
@@BiBi-kw3no would be very nice choice
@@flaviniaa I don’t think he will:( It’s not easy to be on the third place twice in a row
Michał Szpak’ song was awesome!
Me an italian: oh it is great to have the possibility to show our great songs and culture with the world and get those singers the awards the whole europe thinks they deserve
The jury: thou shall not
Same for Turkey. We sent great songs and they didn't give a shit
Italy 2015 will ALWAYS be a very sore point for me. Televoting showed WHO they wanted but noooooo
The funny thing is that these are the most memorable songs of Eurovision 😂
Well jury doesn't like Italy, Poland and Russia 😏
Ukraine and Turkey too
I feel sad about GO_A, in semi-final jury gave them 2nd place in final 9th
Michał Szpak..well true... he deserved so much better...
Finland 2021 🇫🇮 🔥
Sprint in the sky was so good, it was the one that missed out the most with the jury
Spirit in the sky*)
Arcade and Soldi were better and their subsequent success just proves it))
I love how Alexander Rybak destroyed everyone in 2009 but is still on this list because he got more televotes than jury votes
2021 Finland and Italy
Alternate Title: Top 50 songs Saved by Televote
Alternate Title 2: Top 50 songs People loved but the Jury did not
Well this could be about every song that it was saved by tele votes because its give high amount of points? XD
U seem like u didnt think about it a lot.
Poland was done dirty in 2016. One of the crowd favourites yet they received a measly 7 points from the jury. What system do these juries actually use to choose what song is good and what isn't because i'd really like to know
For me, what they did to Michał Szpats (The Polish one) is the worst thing ever in the show. Jury 7 Points.. but from televoting more than 250points. That was a big big mistake and still one of my favorite songs of Eurovision. Also this year, Jury voted so different from Public choices.... Lituania, Italy, Finland and Ukraine...
I remember I stopped watching Eurovision immediately after I saw that he got 7 points((. This was my favorite song of that year. I was like WTF??? I was so disappointed and angry with those stupid juries
I'm good with numbers, but I won't even start with % ratio there. Around 3500%? It's crazy.
Yeah. Sergey is in the third place.
It's just the destiny.
Yep, even here:)
Смешно то что Лазарев и тут занял третье место😅😂
Это слишком жестоко)
Poland deserved more points in 2016... that man is really talented
I really sympathize with the participants from Norway in 2019. Thanks for the video! 😃
I was at an ESC public viewing in 2019 and I called at least 30 times for Norway that evening. My phone bill was happy.🤣🤣
Poland 2016 was LITERALLY robbed oh my god!
Yes, of their dignity and pride. By Szpak's performance.
@@ve8578 no? it was one of the best if not the best polish performance out there on esc. the only person i believe could've beaten the performance was alicja but she's didn't get a chance to perform cuz of covid
@@ve8578 bullshit. It was the best Polish performance, Michał had everything to win: great song, amazing voice, looks and charisma, He was perfect for Eurovision 😌 too bad jury sucks
@@vviku8295 No, his song had very old and primitive style and melody. In addition low level of emotion, so juries didn't want to put this song on high place. Many other songs impressed juries more than colour of your life. His look isn't important.
@@1amino2fenyloetan no? Lol if it was old and bad then why people vited to it? U are just next one hater who want to convince people to your theory.
Go talk to trees buddy.
U say same thing to every person who said that Poland in 2016 was hurted so much.
Always: old style and melody, juries didnt want it to win bla bla bla
maNga was robbed in 2010.. even this can be an excuse for Turkey not to come back :((( but Turkey please come back, I miss you 😥❤️
actually the reason we no longer participate is our president. But we wanna turn back, we missed esc too, love from Turkey✨🧡
We missed the civilized world too ! We'll be back once this islamist hate machines are gone
So many times Italy, Poland, Russia robbed... If Turkey would be there I'm sure that juries may not vote for Turkey. For example 2009 2010 2011 2012 😕 there were big differences.
I mean the fact that naNga is still a fan favourite after all these years says a lot ...
Yeah, I agree. Manga should have won in 2010 instead of that girl with frog voice who couldn't even sing. Cheers from Poland!
Turkey gets huge diaspora votes from all over Europe so it’s fair
@@TaurusGirl22 only Turkey? So many countries has more than Turkey but of course Turkey has so many diaspora too but this is still unfair. So you'd like to say for example, SERGEY DIDNT DESERVED JURY POINTS IN 2016 BECAUSE THEY HAD SO MANY DIASPORA VOTES. Just so funny :/ simply Malta hasn't enough diaspora votes but they always gets more points by jury? Explain to me.
@@oyunaskieurovision don’t get me wrong I love Turkey and turkish entries but it’s biggest diaspora in Europe and the most patriotic one also. Turkey always got for example maximum points from my country Belgium because we have big diaspora and the Belgians got mad and didn’t want to watch Eurovision for that reason. Even if you send shit song diaspora will vote. For example 2012 entry was bad but still got too many televotes from countries where are many turks. So the jury’s giving less points is somehow justified.
Russian diaspora votes too and Russia has too many allies so Russia always ends in top 10 even with bad songs.
Jury Hated Italy Russia Turkey and Keiino 😞
Poland too
What juries did to Michal Szpak was so cruel. Who is that people????
They are politicians xd
It looks same in every single country.
Juries vote to who goverment says they have to. Done.
@@szymonnabrzuchowski5581 No, goverments doesnt care about this.
@@juliaortizmolina7111 They do, that's why you have Greece and Cyprus giving each other 12 points every year, Russian jury disregarding anything Ukrainian and vice versa. The jury are usually very political in their votes as opposed to the televotings
@@SlodkaStasia Thats the only one.
@@juliaortizmolina7111 it's true and it's big problem, jury gives points not because of music but because of politics. Russia always give 12 p for Belarus an vv, Greece to Cyprus and vv
Russia never give big points to Poland, Ukraine etc
Balkans give points to Balkans countries
Scandinavians also give big points to each other
West countries didn't give big points to East countries (realy rarely) 🤷♀️
And that's wy Michał Szpak get's little points from jury, if he was from another country he probably end even in first 3. And it's also why mostly west countries win (not Italy, Italy have bad luck because of jury, too).
In Poland we even had commentator of the Eurovision show who almost every year could say who gives 12 point to who, and he was rarely wrong 🤷♀️
I feel like it wouldn't be a bad idea to exclude juries from voting. After all, it's what europe as a whole enjoys that matters, not a few people from each country.
I think they should at least give it a test run for one or two years and see how it plays out. Would be very interesting to see if more people vote and the result also shifts because of that!
@@emdove yeah, that would be really fun. we'd have some weird and catchy winners for sure!
@@emdove
That was actually the case before 2009. It was changed because it was found that juries are less prone to regional and political voting.
@@artuselias Interesting! Do you know if they vote for neighbouring countries because of politics or the style of music? I think this year, Hurricane had an advantage with the votes in their area because of their popularity there (I don’t know if that really played out, just that it was a guess before the votes were announced), and in general I think Culture might play a bigger role than politics. But I’d love to know what the real reason is.
@@emdove they did and believe won
The fact that Poland was here twice in top ten without any wins tells alot about the crappy jury. You can fight me in the coments
Michail Szpak Poland классная песня! ❤️ Оооооооо color of your life, ooooooo 😍
We have the same name
KEiiNO, Mélovin, Hatari, Blind Channel, Go_A and Måneskin are the most recent that had such HUGE discrepancies that just ??? You can clearly see the so called juries don't care about the culture, representation and self-expression.
And even though Måneskin had such high score from the judges, I can't see any other reason other than their political views and unwillingness to be "the ones that cost them their win" given how it was such a huge favorite, I fail to see why the judges favored them by the music but the only other rock band was given such a low score at the same time. (Don't get me wrong, I love Måneskin and I'm SO GLAD they won, but it IS odd that the judges saw them in a favorable light while Blind Channel was left to dust almost).
I think Maneskins style of rock is more modern and the juries look for songs that would suit the modern market. I loved Blind Channel, it was my top song of the night, but it had a more dated Nu-metal feel to it and lots of people drawing similarities with older bands. I don't think they considered it as marketable in today's music world... thankfully the voting public proved them wrong.
@@kirstyphillips1972 Maneskin more modern? That was glam-rock right out of the 80's. I`d call it AC/DC 2.0 , lol ... it's the opposite of modern but it doesn't mean it's a bad thing. I liked the Song and am happy wor their win, although I liked Blind Channel a wee bit more.
Italy in general gets good points from jury’s, maybe not so much like from televoting but it’s always in jury’s top 10
@@TaurusGirl22 except in 2014 (20th with the jury) and 2018 (17th with the jury, 3rd with televote)
@@lillolollo1217 yeah those are also my least favorite ones
the juries must have something against eastern europe and italy...
Central/Nordic states vote each other's song... My country Italy votes different every year, but we receive love from both Eastern countries juries and televote ^^
and UK
@@stefanvukovic1436 nah, UK hust brings to the competition poor songs usually
The juries are worse than just televoting. If televoting serbia gets 12 points from macedonia its understandable but in jury voting that is just corruption and not being an expert xD
Vindication for Rasmussen who absolutely slayed with their beautiful beards and then were tarnished by the jury!!!!!
Juries should be banned. Those do more politics than televoters and always prefer softer music (I'm guessing those "experts" are just snobs...)
I don't think they should be completely removed but just not be able to give more than 8 points to a country (the jury votings are one of the most entertaining things, I mean who didn't like the Greece kid, the Jaja Ding Dong dude or epic sax guy?)
Tell that to Serbia getting 60 out of 107 points from Croatia, North Macedonia, Slovenia Austria and Switzerland televoting.
@@LiMa-lb4kh the presenters can present the televote, since the televote is also based on countries.
Nah its much more emotional with both jury and televotes
The televoters aren't sinless either, for example look at Malta who butchered the semi final this year but got only 47 televote points in the final. Televoters always give more points on songs that are later in the running order.
Italy, Ukraine and Russia have been several times in this Top :/
That says more about the public voting for these countries no matter what than it does about the jury. Former soviet countries stick together in terms of public voting and italian have a large diaspora across europe. If it weren’t for the juries these countries would win every year and Eurovision would be finished
@@johnnyxrcfc LOL your comment doesn't make sense. Actually the Public Voting reflects more the favorites of the show. The jury are the ones who constantly vote their neighbor countries (eg. Cyprus always votes Greece and vice versa). You already saw what happened to Poland in 2016. Everyone liked the song, but the jury neglected it.
@@rheizelkot7715 well maybe this is my opinion and bias but the example of Poland in 2016 to me shows that Poland has a lot of neighbours rather than that song was good. On the contrary I thought that entry was poor and them only getting 7 points from the jury seemed fair to me. Dont get me wrong there are flaws in the jury but without the jury, only a handful of countries would win the competition and countries that dont have neighbours or are smaller would never have a chance at winning regardless of how good their song is. The juries are flawed but the public vote has a lot more flaws.
@@johnnyxrcfc Italy have a large diaspora across Europe? wtf
We just send strong songs that people love mostly every year, when it doesn't happen we don't get that many points (2014 or 2016)
@@johnnyxrcfc Italy doesn't have "a large diaspora across Europe", not more than any other country. And this year, Italy gets most of the public votes from eastern Europe countries, and there are not many Italians living there at all
Aw I forgot about Michal in 2016 I loved his song, still have it on my phone
Keiino, Melovin and Francesco Gabbani are the reasons we need televoting.
The biggest fail in Eurovision history is that Grande Amore didn't win......
The song is fucking EPIC.
I like Heroes but the fact that Grande Amore didn’t win still breaks my heart. That, and Spirit in the Sky
Whatever the jury says? ITALY 2015 WILL ALWAYS BE MY WINNER.
They fucking WON the world, not just ESC. And where is the 2015 winner now? Lol
Hearing Shum right after Yodel It! is an experience I didn't think I ever needed in my life
Balkan countries, Turkey and Italy are always underrated by the jury votes.
If you want jurys meaning to have any credibility, there can only be one jury approved by the contest administration, not every country with their own jury, i counted for 222 points given to neighbours or friendly countries, that weren't top7 favorites this year. Countries like moldova, bulgaria, azerbaijan, greece, cyprus, macedonia etc still have the same outcome, as if there wouldn't be any jury. To hell with jury!
Yeah, in the past (before the 2000s) the juries used to be musicians... and I do not mean just singers: people with music degrees who could hear a violin player lift their pinky fingers too much: they could analyze the songs, the singing, everything. But as of late, there are singers in the jury, so they vote for the best singers (those were indeed Switzerland, France and Malta this year 2021), but they cannot judge the songs, and cannot detect masterpieces like Ukraine's techno-folk. AND that's when they judge the singing, because the "let's vote for our friends" crap is disgusting.
At least it was not very bad this year: there were many good songs. But Ukraine and France were my winners: they were European traditional music, especially Ukraine.
@@isabelguzmanmiranda5025 idk the specifics of who is in the jury but i feel like most if it is just political the moste obvious example is of course greece and cyprus (there are probably others that do the same) but yeah personally i think we should just yeet the whole jury or make their votes mean less
@@missrainbowfactory4977 The jury should be made of musicians... they obviously vote politically. It was not so before 2000.
Sweden got 28 points from Iceland, Norway and Denmark, Norway got 21 points from Iceland, Denmark and Sweden, Serbia got 36 points from Croatia, Slovenia and North Macedonia. Politics exist with the televote and jury results.
@@isabelguzmanmiranda5025 i feel like the chance of it going back to being made of musicians is unlikely. I hope it will so that it can be fair, but if it continues with how it is now then i stand by the two options i mentioned in my previous comment
as a polish person, i’m really disappointed of most of our representants on eurovision although I think 1994 and 2016 were great years for us I’m so sad we didn't win or place higher.
Well, I'd love my country (Turkey) to be back and I really want it. But I also have a strong feeling that we couldn't get what we deserved by the jury again like we always did. 🥺
So basically eastern European countries are underrated by dammmm juries.
Poland... Michał Szpak... I hate jury :(
Not surprised to see Russia, Italy, Poland here.
Why Italy in this top so many times? I don't know
Can we have a Eurovision without jury and see what happens?🙄
No, because eurovision is not a European competition. It is a Swiss competition and the name comes from a Swiss broadcaster. So it is natural for the jury to follow directions from the main company.
No, we cant host that much of eurovisions (c)Russia
No, even though it's rigged and the jury does political voting a lot. Without it the competition, and the voting would be so much more boring and generic.
Italy would win every other year :D
I wouldn't mind.
See what happened?, Do you watch esc in 2000s???
Il Volo not winning was a crime..
Keiino was so iconic though, how dare they.
How epic was when keiino got 291 from televoting🥰
To this day I am still bitter about Norway not winning in 2019.
I don't understand why the juries can't just be gotten rid of. It worked in the 2000s, why wouldn't it work now?
No it didn't, the Western countries had no chance at all (with the possible exception of the Nordic countries) and at least one stupid novelty song made the top 10 every year from 2005-2008.
@@MrMike855 But now all the juries favour western european countries...it’s just as corrupt. If we can’t get rid of them we need to reform the juries completely
@@kingofthesands Then focus on the second part "we had at least one novelty song in the top 10 from 2005-2008". I don't want to see instances were junk like "We Are the Winners" and "Dancing Lasha Tumbai" could make the top 10, it's bad enough when "Yodel It" made it, but at least that song had some vocal talent. Going to pure televote would ruin the reputation the show has clawed back over the last decade.
@@kingofthesands Juries favour western countries, televote favours eastern countries. Balance achieved.
I still have no idea why people love Keiino.
Their EV song was a clear copy if Finland's 2018 song (at least the music), and the Finnish version overwhelmingly placed 25th.
And the scam of the song should win the event?
IMO they shouldn't get out of the semis
6:22 *The real winner of ESC 2019*
well, I guess my country's gonna send Sergey for the 3rd time :D
And he going to be 3rd place XD
@@jan5691 3 times 3rd place that's the magic of numbers xd
@@thezhonya 😂
please don't , i really don't like him, juries seemed fair to me with him :D
Are they really or was that just a joke? Sergey was my favourite in his first one and one of my favourites with scream.
Michal Szpak Poland ❤❤
I was watching this and thinking, "I disagree with some, agree with others, but the robbery of Keiino's Spirit in the Sky better be in the first place". Yeah, I think we all agree on that one.
I would have upped Gabbani's Occidentalis Karma more, but Sorbal won because the public voted for him, so... Sometimes it is a popularity contest, and the jury calls the attention to the good singers or good songs. But Spirit in the Sky was robbed: it was clearly the best song of that year, AND it had folkloric elements, which is what Eurovision should be all about.
Thanks for mentioning poor Daniel Diges. He sang very well (he sings like frakkin' Julio Iglesias), the song was not bad at all... but for some reason, he was disliked. Pity, I think he did a great job.
It breaks my heart how Spirit in the Sky was robbed.
up until this day i haven't recovered from the injustice that happened to Norway 2019
Mélovin deserved better in 2018
It's still amazes me that you guys don't THAT for Szpak in 2016. 7 to 229 ✨
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO !
It doesn't make sense to include winners in this because if an entry won, by definition the jury failed to hurt them.
Yeah I would've preferred the ranking to be based on position instead of points (like Melovin being 7th with the public but last with the jury)
Poland 2016 ❤👍
Ukraine 2021, 2016 and 2018 - crime
Ukraine winning in 2016 it is a crime indeed.
@@sergeybelt3727 YES
@@sergeybelt3727 get over it, russians
I find it hilarious to see all these winners in the list. Somehow it's like we're telling the juries "step aside, you have no taste." lol
(more seriously though, I remember voting for a good chunk of these.)
(Also Sergey's song being 3rd place again made me cackle.)
Every year during the jury vote I see people online just going "what? huh? how? THAT? why? wait what now?"
I don't know what needs to happen, but the jury should be comprised of ONE representative from each country who is participating and we move on. The jury vote section is too long anyway.
Partly it is very interesting to see the difference between the viewing public and "professional jury", but it has gotten to a point where I don't know a single soul, who enjoys the jury section and their existence.
4-93 by Dani, 7-222 by Szpak and 40-291 by KEiiNO are some of the most ridiculous differences. Lazarev and Babushki at least went 94 and 130 respectively from jury... And meanwhile, Rybak with 312-378 is just behind Hurricane with 20-82. I'm not sure if that kind of difference is the best statistics match for that type of video :P
More accurate ranking would be, for example, this one:
Respectively - the song (country shortcut) (place in compilation) (jury points-people points).
Sorted by jury points / people points (for example 312/378 = 0.825, 7/222 = 0.03)
50. Alexander Rybak - Fairytale (NOR) (46) (312-378)
49. Eleni Foureira - Fuego (CYP) (43) (183-253)
48. Conchita Wurst - Rise Like a Phoenix (AUT) (30) (224-311)
47. Luca Hanni - She Got Me (SUI) (50) (152-212)
46. maNga - We Could Be The Same (TUR) (49) (119-177)
45. Netta - Toy (ISR) (28) (212-317)
44. Jamala - 1944 (UKR) (23) (211-323)
43. Maneskin - Zitti e Buoni (ITA) (20) (206-318)
42. Aram MP3 - Not Alone (ARM) (40) (125-193)
41. Francesco Gabbani - Occidentali's Karma (ITA) (36) (126-208)
40. Hadise - Dum Tek Tek (TUR) (35) (114-203)
39. Tolmachevy Sisters - Shine (RUS) (42) (70-132)
38. Sergey Lazarev - Scream (RUS) (19) (126-244)
37. Eric Saade - Popular (SWE) (22) (106-221)
36. Loukas Giorkas feat. Stereo Mike - Watch My Dance (GRE) (33) (84-176)
35. Il Volo - Grande Amore (ITA) (5) (171-366)
34. Mandinga - Zaleilah (ROM) (47) (53-117)
33. Aysel & Arash - Always (AZE) (16) (112-253)
32. Blanche - City Lights (BEL) (11) (108-255)
31. Sunstroke Project - Hey, Mamma! (MOL) (10) (110-264)
30. Daniel Diges - Algo Pequenito (ESP) (44) (43-106)
29. Blind Channel - Dark Side (FIN) (13) (83-218)
28. Elina Born & Stig Rasta - Goodbye to Yesterday (EST) (31) (53-144)
27. Go_A - Shum (UKR) (7) (97-267)
26. Sergey Lazarev - You Are The Only One (RUS) (3) (130-361)
25. Blue - I Can (GBR) (25) (57-166)
24. Milan Stanković - Ovo Je Balkan (SRB) (37) (37-110)
23. The Roop - Discoteque (LTU) (21) (55-165)
22. Joci Papai - Origo (HUN) (27) (48-152)
21. Mikolas Josef - Lie To Me (CZE) (14) (66-215)
20. Can Bonomo - Love Me Back (TUR) (18) (50-176)
19. Buranovskiye Babushki - Party For Everybody (RUS) (2) (94-332)
18. Ilinca feat. Alex Florea - Yodel It! (ROM) (8) (58-224)
17. Zoe - Loin d'Ici (AUT) (34) (31-120)
16. Hatari - Hatrio Mun Sigra (ISL) (15) (46-186)
15. Hurricane - Loco Loco (SRB) (45) (20-82)
14. Jacques Houdek - My Friend (CRO) (38) (25-103)
13. Ermal Meta & Fabrizio Moro - Non Mi Avete Fatto Niente (ITA) (6) (59-249)
12. Sebalter - Hunter of Stars (SUI) (29) (27-114)
11. Jessy Matador - Allez Ola Ole (FRA) (17) (34-151)
10. Rasmussen - Higher Ground (DEN) (12) (38-188)
9. Genealogy - Face The Shadow (ARM) (48) (15-75)
8. Alexej Vorobjov - Get You (RUS) (24) (25-138)
7. Jedward - Waterline (IRL) (41) (14-89)
6. Donatan & Cleo - My Słowanie (POL) (9) (23-162)
5. Bojana Stamenov - Beauty Never Lies (SRB) (39) (12-86)
4. KEiiNo - Spirit In The Sky (NOR) (1) (40-291)
3. Melovin - Under The Ladder (UKR) (26) (11-119)
2. Elhaida Dani - I'm Alive (ALB) (32) (4-93)
1. Michał Szpak - Color Of Your Life (POL) (4) (7-222)
As you can see, Szpak deservedly at the 1st place with virtually nothing from jury in comparison to televoters. In ranking presented in the video, even if he got 0 points from jury, he would still remain 4th which is a joke. Bojana Stamenov from Serbia and Melovin from Ukraine went also much higher in the rankings. The biggest drop in that ranking is noticed by Il Volo. Many would think they got robbed big time, but still, I believe this is still much below what happened to Michał Szpak. 171 vs 7 is a really huge difference. Moreover, last places in this ranking go mostly to Eurovision winners, like Maneskin (43, previously 20), Toy (45, previously 28), Conchita Wurst (48, previously 30) and Alexander Rybak (50, previously 46).
Serbia 2015 was criminally underrated both by jury and televoters.
Omg you just reminded me how much I loved Hunter of Stars. Sebalter really deserved more, I hope he’ll come back to Eurovision soon.
5:58 wow.. 7 points 😳
Italy has won over the jury's bias this year.
Without jury votes, Norway would have won in 2019 by 30 points, but they were 7th by 167 points
Wait, hold up, Norway? Alexander won both jury and televote.
Ukraine had to be second this year :/
And why not the 1st?
@@Sunflower-kq6wo because the majority obviously wanted Maneskin to win by giving them 318 points and I respect people’s opinion. Unfortunately, can’t tell the same about (mostly) biased juries who vote for neighbors and ignore countries they had issues with. As Italy received the most points from viewers and Ukraine came second, this is how it should have been in the end. And that would be fair, although I like Shum more.
5:59 - WHAT!!! Colours of Your Life got 7 points from the jury?!! HOW!! 😱😤
Spirit in the Sky is such a banger that it became my current "play it on repeat" song along with its groups whole first album, it really does deserve the Done Dirty crown
Jury voting 2021 was such a shame, Ukraine deserved better, tele vote showed it clear
Spirit in the sky!! ❤️❤️❤️
Crying every time, when I see Jury voting for Keiino
it truly hurts me that the first list that I find "beauty never lies" on is a list about songs being hurt by the jury. it's a truly underrated song
poor Poland, each time :(
Rafal didn't help :v
@@WielkiSens You cant get robbed by jury if you dont qualify to final. 200 IQ move by Rafał.
@@krzysztofwisniewski8325 that's true 😁
Are you kidding me only 7 jury points for Poland in 2016? Bye
I'm still not getting over what they did to Keiino and Michal Spazsk
Of course, the jury always :'(
Italy, mostly, always ended up not winning, even if the songs were AMAZING and clearly winners. And finally, THIS YEAR, they won. I was so happy!!!! And yeah, this year also, Shum by Go_A deserved better from the jury, as always. Just saying, Go_A was the 2nd best voted by the public, so ut clearly was almost a winner and could have probably won