Iv'e been a sound engineer for the past 15 years, and was looking to move onto something a little more reliable in these times, so i decided to train as an electrician. I have done the short course route that Corey was talking about, but i definitely agree that i am not ready to be called an "electrician" yet, so i just looked up local electricians and am starting work in the next few weeks, alongside experienced people so i can learn how it works in the application, not just theory.
I train guys to become electrical installers and I am keen to explain that just like learning to drive you gain your accreditation but the real learning starts once you have your certs and start to work in the industry.
What Cory said about Ex Army guys doing these short courses is spot on, I did exactly that when I left and now 2 years later I'm at a proper college doing my level 2 and next year my Level 3, If I had known what I really needed when I left the Army I would have gone straight to a college.But it's a great industry and it will be worth it in the long run.
The conversation in the car at the end of the video is literally spot on!! All my views and probably many others as well!! It’s infuriating that our trade is considered less unsafe just because you can smell a gas leak, you can do a short course and be ‘qualified’ to undertake small works. As Cory said we have all work hard to get our city and guild qualifications! It’s not right... simple as that.
Well people understand gas can go boom. Maybe they should show more often pictures of houses burned by bad electricity install, burns on body from electricity , which imo is visually a lot worse than burns from open flame, in TV may be they would understand. I know when I attended school they shown us those twice a year with warning that nothing is more dangerous to themselves and all around them than overconfident electrician ... In my country both gas and electricity governing body is independent from industry, there are no fees. But if you want to be electrician you need to have proper at least two year long education (that's for 2 year courses after high school or college) or full high school (4 years) or college (5,5 years) education in electricity, Without those you will not be granted status of electrician ( journeyman electrician would probably be more sensible in English). Then after 2 years of practice (which you need to prove by shoving you worked as an electrician) you can ask for upgrade to full independent electrician (who can supervise two journeyman electricians). Alas i think people underestimate electricity (they did not in 1st half of 20th century) just because a lot of national electric bodies forced private industry to follow stringent rules, and nowadays there are few and far between cases of major property damage or several deaths at same time from electricity.
Nic used to be a charity now it's plc come book seller,after saying that I have always worked for a nic company and now have taken over the company with my son's ,do find you will always get large jobs from being a member so well worth the cost ,looking forward to your first solar install vid 👍
Short courses - I agree and see both sides, I did it myself took me years, to get to the place I am now. Had to manage a full time job, work weekends holidays, then went to working part time and building it up, using the course as a foundation. You’re not ready immediately afterwards, you will need experience. But at the age of 30 I wasn’t going to college for years. The 16 weeks I did was one of the most intense things I did and up there with training as a RM Commando. Eat, learn, sleep, repeat 🔁. Many who do this will fail but I was determined not to. I’m glad I did it. My life is better for it. But lads trust me it’s not easy.
Ive done 2 years of college, passed 18th, part p and 2391 yet the issue is i want experiene in the sector. However no one seems to want to give you experience because they just think you're an apprentice they can pay pennies to.They think you've just done a short course, leaned how to pass an exam not how to be an electrican. Im finding the sector so hard to get into without starting off as an apprentice. I have mortgages and bills to pay so i went down the non apprentice path and have basically now hit a wall. I could go out and do work on my own but i would feel alot more confident working with someone and gaining experinece. ps. love the videos!
Thats the issue my mate had and decided to go a completly different career, passed his NVQ3 at a college and couldnt find work or an apprenticeship for well over 5 months. I wanted to try get into electrics but cant seem to find anyone wanting to give a 25 year old a chance, despite this i keep hearing how theres a shortage of sparkys.
Installed mine last week. Best thing I’ve done on my own place this year. If you can do it yourself you can save £1000’s even the DNO were very helpful with notification. I like checking on the Grid meter in the kitchen as it reads “0” taken from the grid and I have everything running.😁👍🏻
In australia, I completed, 3 years at tec, 1 day a week, 4 year as a apprectice and had to show wiring experience, to become a licensed electrician. The training system is run by various government departments
Excellent video. On the short course issue, its not the courses that’s the problem, it’s the CPS system that’s the issue. Electrics domestic and industrial need to be treated the same as Gas Safe, until this happens nothing is going to change.
I did that same course there almost two years ago and it took 3 months to get certificate/ BPEC ID badge through so be prepared. I was surprised to see you doing the mounting frame practical on the floor with wheeled roof simulators, as we had to tog up in harness, hard hat and climb up a tiled roof mock up. As for not letting you leave if you don't pass the final exam...hmm if that is the case it has changed as we had a couple fail on our course.
I really hope, that more and more electricians are going to be aproved to do solar installations ! We really need to speed up the installation of new solar systems! Congrats for passing the course. Go ahead and bring the solar to a shine Jordan and Cory.
The rapid growth of domestic solar, and indeed other renewables, is becoming a headache for those responsible for ensuring the stability of the grid. Until cost-effective storage becomes available the fickle nature of wind and solar makes them unreliable contributors to the overall energy mix.
A short course isn't as easy to get on as you make out. At least not with Napit. You need to demonstrate at least 2 years experience in the electrical industry for a start. Most ppl on these courses are middle aged and have a wealth of experience from other trades/ jobs. Skills that can be cross referenced. We would all like to go back in time and do an apprenticeship, but it's not always possible later in life.
The word that was missing in your discussion about short courses, and any other course, was apprenticeship. This is why the German system of technical training is so good for turning out skilled trades people. The technical high schools link their apprentice trainees with an outside company in order that they leave with a proper understanding linked with practical skills and experience. Apprenticeship schemes which linked technical college learning with practical experience were mostly destroyed by the Thatcher government of the 1980’s with the rush to convert every college and polytechnic into a university. The rest is history - a downward slope into corporatised education, and fast fixes to get people into skilled trades without the relevant practical training working alongside skilled people. It is a system that serves no ones best interests and the quality and standard of work suffers.
In Australia there is a government issued licence in each state and in order to get it you have to have completed a 3-4 year apprenticeship. If you then want to do contracting work for yourself you have to do a business course and also a course on all the electrical legislative requirements only after that can you get a contractors licence. There are heavy fines and jail terms for people and companies carrying out any electrical work without a licence. It's a good system
I found that when I joined NAPIT with the “short course” I had to prove 2 and half years experience before they would accept me. I’m not going to get on my soap box about it coz I can see both sides like you guys. I just think if you the correct attitude then that’s what makes you a good or bad spark. Either way really enjoyed this vid completely different from your normal stuff and it looks like you both had a blast
I totally agree with your statement there about it really comes down to the individuals attitude. I’ve seen unqualified folks who really cared about the work and doing everything right producing far better results than a qualified spark who just wants to be in and out and seems not to give a crap.
For those of us who do not live in the Cambridge area, can you do a video on what questions to ask, qualifications/certifications to be expecting to be in place, age of certification etc., previous work history and references to ask of electricians who you want quotes from for domestic work, EV charge point and solar installs? i.e. How to tell a cowboy from the real deal?
I'm from Belgium and I'm shocked as well hearing how your british system for qualifications & stuff does work. In Belgium, the law lists the activities (trades) which are "protected" and for which you have to bear appropriate qualifications, which are academic. Working on electrotechnical systems is of course among the list. Accepted qualifications are provided by high schools, universities or training centers for adults and these are all minimum an equivalent to a 3 year full time training (bachelor's degree).
After serving 12 years in the army, I decided I needed a change in career. This is down to having a wife and 2 young children. As much as I would love to become an apprentice and do it all “properly” financially it’s impossible. Having children to provide for and a mortgage to pay, I’ve had to go down the alternate route. Unlike most that just do the domestic installers course and go out on their own, I’m doing the level 2, 3 and then NVQ. This will still take me a few years as I’ll be getting experience in between courses.
On the short courses I couldn’t agree with Cory more, especially in regards to NIC. I’m an adult learner training to be and electrician, but I’m now in year 4 heading for my 2391-52 Arguably you can’t be an experienced domestic installer/ electrician without experiences in the working environment. I can’t imagine condensing 4 years into 6 weeks, madness
It is a great training center and the way the exam is structured is exactly the same as the Gas Qualification written exams. I don't mind the short courses but the criteria changes are fine too because it limits the type of customers and installs that under experienced electricians can do (for those knowledgeable customers that search for listed electricians). In 2012 I did Domestic Gas on a short course - 22 days, I had background that supported doing my Gas on top of my electrics and the college policy was "if they don't think you're safe you won't get sent for the exams". Like many of the ex forces guys though I wanted to be good at it, safe and knowledgeable so I had something that could earn me a good living. Continuous CPD is a must though for anyone wanting to do short courses and there needs to be a way for those short course takers to gain domestic installer and then approved status. It's why I've gone above and beyond my NVQ for my electrics and continued on to do commercial Gas. In short all this does is make sure the people that may have thought about abusing NICEIC listing won't be able to be listed and in future the goal posts will shift to make sure those not of the appropriate standard aren't either. So basically self employed job in hand drive by eicr chaps that wouldn't care either way.
Sort courses are fine imho if the person is committed as well to get the experience to become a good electrician. It is the experience that will take the time and needs to be supervised. The apprentice route is not really an option for older people as there just isn't enough openings.
I agree that short course are not a good way form someone to enter the electrical industry. I work for a railway infrastructure maintainer as an electrical engineer, started as an apprentice 45 years ago, we deal with every voltage below 33kV both ac and dc. When we interview people for jobs as technicians, we do not do much install work, it is quite shocking that some of the candidates profess to be 'electricians' but are lacking in not only practical experience which we can deals with, but the total lack of understanding the science, Ohm's law is quite fundamental many not able to answer even simple questions.
Welcome to solar land! As you might have already seen in the field; there’s a lot of cowboys still doing their thing. And it’s not only the lack of regulations to blame for that. Hope you’ll be cathcing on the rhythm of doing it the proper way. And have a lot of fun while doing so. (despite all the logistical nightmares, sore knees, challenging installs and ‘taking-far-more-time-than-expected’ project executions). Great step forward to a more sustainable world!
Larger national companies need to recognise that older learners can be a big benefit to them and pay a higher wage to allow them to retrain and gain experience at the same time. How else can an adult with financial commitments retrain. How many times do you hear a client say well the last electrician was NICEIC then you see the standard of work left behind.
There's lots of interesting comments here. I've recently done a 2391 course, and there were builders, electricians, engineers, ex-army and a fire fighter. All the people on the course I would describe as competent. Most of them were already carrying out electrical work but wanted to become 'legit'. I feel that if they were incompetent then they would not have passed the practical assessments and exams. I do aggree that something needs to be done about the dangerous work that goes on, but I imagine that most of this is done by people with no experiance, qualifications or registrations... and there is nothing being done to stop them. These changes will only stop the people who want to upskill and become legit. Surely a NICEIC style assessment would be more suitable at filtering people out.
I qualified has an electrician in the late 80 and became a maintenance electrician at a dept store, but kept up to date with the latest regs. But moved in to the security alarm industry. I have decided to get my qualifications up to date but I am doing a two year course and yes a lot is set on our to set your business up not about the practical.So I do agree with you both
Nice one chaps! I'm booked in for the same course at TS4U in October, super excited about getting into storage and solar moving forweard. Can't believe it's taken so long to get around to it!
Regards your comments about short courses, they attract people who see being an electrician as an easy way to make money rather than it's a profession they feel drawn to, it also is a source of cheap labour for large companies who are happy to employ inexperienced staff to put in smart meters or to get contracts with letting agents. ,Unless the government puts legal requirements in place the industry will be putting peoples lives at risk.
The fact you’re getting those targeted ads is likely due to the fact you’ve just spent 5 days in proximity to other people with the same interests, on the same wifi, etc. It’s not actually listening to you, but the aggregated data that advertising providers have on you, even if it’s not linked to you as a person, is massive. And makes it feel like it listens. Set up ‘ask app not to track’ and things might improve ;)
Experience matters, having said that qualifications are useful. Many industry bodies are in my view as you agreed are problematic. Being a good electrician ultimately comes from within leveraging up your skills never being satisfied with your work and continually learning that is the key. Even though the state requirements in USA are challenging to becoming an electrician it is still the case I see poor quality installs mainly driven by doing rushed work by so-called qualified and licensed electricians.
Interesting video. I have reviewed a lot of videos on YT and the information online of the various equipment suppliers etc. for solar installation and crunched the numbers to determine what will work on my house at latitude 55 degrees North and the main roof at 183 degrees. I figured out that it is installers that are making the money now the FIT is gone. The industry is running a closed shop union for paid up MCA members so you are spot on with a proper regulated system. In Australia it is the local council that sends an inspector out to certify a system before it can grid connect. We should have this in the UK. Self regulation and certification is not a good idea in my opinion. Essentially you need a roofer installing the panels and a sparky making the connections as the two skills and trades needed. Reality is if your roof does not point south and west you will likely not get a good yield. I ended up going with enphase inverters as they are plug and play AC and I will start with 3 panels mounted vertically to a wall for winter sun followed by 4 panels in the spring to get 2.1 kWs peak on inverters and c. 2.9kW on panels. I do not want high amperage DC running through my house I have little confidence in a DC system though it is £100 less per panel. All the wires needed for now and up to 15 panels with isolators and junction boxes will be installed with the sparky in replacing my consumer unit and brining it up to spec. I opted to get SWA10mm to be sure of safety with the cable and junction boxes earthed and a separate Earth to the panel frames. IP65 minimum to the consumer unit. I am looking to my sparky to do a tidy job on the consumer unit and prepare for a future battery etc. As far as I can tell it is a good sparky making sure a system is safe and properly wired in, a roofer keeping the roof water tight and attractive and someone smart enough to figure out optimal yield. With 3 panels in I can run them as a calibration meter to work out the actual yield and build a system until it's not worth adding any more. Good video and your work looks good and proper. Careful you don't eat too much that's a sure way to break the tiles.... Excellent channel showing quality work.
Gotta love the premier in stayed in the one in Oxford beside the airport when working over in St Edwards school, was over from Northern Ireland Belfast
solar panels is easy, Rule 1 follow manufacturer instructions, Rule 2 follow rule 1. i explain solar panels are like batteries in a tv remote, then most people understand
If you want to have a play with some solar test equipment before you buy anything I'm not a million miles away from you and you'd be welcome to have a go with mine. See if it's worth having before you splash out! FWIW the IET's code of practice is very readable even if it is a bit out of date. Also top tip for reliable systems is simple is best, keep the bits that break accessible.
I had a part-time electricians course for half a year and I don't call myself an electrician. I know I learned enough to be able to rewire my own house, but I will not do anyone else's house. BTW, I got a low grade for the theoretical part because I didn't plan for the minimum number of outlets but what any sane home owner would want. I am building my own house now and the electricians I hired still are a bit surprised by what I want. Not much has changed since the 80's I think.
I'm midway through a NT4U course its in a 9 week split block but spread over 12-24months, after the first week (the course is very full on a lot of good information so far) gained the 2392 qualification. I feel if you can provide evidence of quality works as one would in an apprenticeship and had it counter signed by a competent person who'd be a part of those governing groups that should allow the access for that person to also become apart of the groups. The short/intensive courses can easily be managed properly by regularly planting an inspector as a student and ensuring the correct level of training is provided and if the student's quality of work isn't to the industrys standard to help guide them so they can improve and get there later on. But I do agree with you guys half of the course is about thing's like websites, vans etc which is useful but it's got nothing to do with electrics its about running a business which personally I think isn't relevant. Like you wouldn't go to university to study medicine to find out how the administration system of the hospital works
Hey! Really odd request, but I’m an industrial electrician and would absolutely love to come to spend a few days work with either you or Corey completely free of charge and will do any menial job you give me just to learn a few things from you both! Either way love watching your videos guys! Keep it up. Much love Tom
Another great video. If you have 30 years elecrtical experience, 4 year apprenticeship served, compex authorised for petrochemical and off shore installations and have taken the bs7671 course. Does such a person, still legally need to do this training just to install a domestic pv arrangement such as this?
All your videos are honest and always interesting. You asked for questions about solar.......ok here is one that I have been been looking at for decades. How many years to get my money back if I invested in a 4 kw ( peak) system with lithium iron battery storage? At best I make it 12 years by which time the degradation and mtbf of components would be very significant. Charge management systems, inverters and battery management systems do fail. The utilisation factor for PV systems is still less than 30% even with the latest panels and with poor FIT ( if they exist at all ) it is a must for battery storage and with the depth of discharge taken into account the battery system must surely be lithium iron. Should be interesting if a prospective customer asks the question and I know you would give an honest answer. By the way 20 years ago a report for the government gave the cost of all types of generation including capital cost , maintenance, and decommissioning. Most expensive by far ....off shore wind, onshore wing , PV. Amazingly the cost of these energies in the current report have suddenly dropped. The invention of a carbon market and fictitious pricing allows a equivalent carbon price to offset the actual cost of generation.
… Also waiting to get onto a PV course my local centre am have submitted a course design to C&G waiting on approval. I did a BPEC on Ventilation years ago with Nu-Aire in Caerphilly Wales 🏴. Free all we had to do was pay for the books and turn up. I opted out of solar at the time of my learning as the tariff didn’t incentivise us as the work had all dried up and solar companies going pop left right and centre….
I know a guy, who trained as a spark in the RAF The only trouble was he was colour blind, so he couldn't see the difference between the line and neutral!!
Wow.. in regards to that chat at the end in the car, I'm surprised that the UK doesn't have some sort of government body that does the certification for electricians. I am in Canada and all provinces require courses and a 4 year apprenticeship to get fully licensed as an electrician. It's definitely not something you can get into by taking a short course.
Wait.. what?.. A ten day course and you can start an electrical business ??? In Finland, you need to complete an undergraduate degree in the electrical industry (3 years) and you need two years of diverse work experience to complete the Electrical Safety Degree 2. Or you can complete an engineering degree after an undergraduate degree in electrical industry so you don't need work experience to complete the Electrical Safety Degree 2. Only after completing the Electrical Safety Degree 2 can you start an electrical business (all electrical work up to 1000V and 1000A excluding elevators). If you want to work on more than 1000V systems or elevators, there are more requirements and courses.
So will have to do a working at height course now you’re working on a roof. Adding battery storage to an existing system wouldn’t necessarily be a big job would it.
@@artisanelectrics did the training go into Solar + Storage systems ? I live on a boat with a Victron MPPT solar charge controller + Pylontech LiFePO4 battery + Victron inverter (+ a genset for the winter) and while not the cheapest, the quality of these blue devices (maybe not the same shade of blue as Artisan Electrics but close enough :-) ) is astonishing and the multiple ways you can configure it offer a huge lot of possibilities, specifically in applications for EV charging and solar installs not feeding back to the grid (if this can make sense in some specific cases).
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About tables for two, what do you think of this one : 15 years ago two colleagues of me were on a full week business trip in Valenciennes, North of France, to test our new metro trains on the railway testing center located there. One was 45 years old and the othe 60, both married men with kids. That day they booked a table for two in a random restaudant in the town as usual, after a very long day of work. They arrived at the place, all the tables were pimped up with nice decorations, candles and all the stuff, and once sat down they felt a strange look and some smiles from other customers and restaurant staff..... it was the 14th of February :-D :-D :-D
Not Gatwick there mate Crawley Manor royal. Companies like to pretend its "London" Gatwick about 15 miles from the nearest Borough and 38 to the centre. Great video guys, Parsons Pig if I'm not mistaken. Food is very good!
The chicken burger looked like a heart attack on a plate 😵 Cory obviously enjoys Indian cuisine 👍👍 Like you, Jordan, I enjoy a good coffee with breakfast - I use an Aldi pod coffee maker and companion milk frother. Very interesting to see you both at the course.😃👌👏👏👏 industry self regulation does not work - training qualifications need to be set by government regulation and administered by a government authority.
Solar at the seaside isnt always the best.. if its right on the front you have the problem of seagull crap.. plan proventative measures and inform your customer prior to install that theyll need to get someone in to regular clean the panels!
Must have been a dog in his 5th life.... Squirrel 🐿🐿🐿 Still waiting for the Artisan Electrics theme song by Cory! I saw the guitar case in the hotel. 🎸🎸
This is a bit tongue in cheek but a little ironic that Cory is waxing lyrical about short courses and no experience but you are now both solar installers after a 4 day course with what sounds like an exam you cannot fail unless you really tried hard to. Domestic installation in itself is not rocket science. Anyone with a decent aptitude can learn to do it just as quickly as you learnt how to do solar. And is Cory's idea of experience being apprentices? So what next? A standard for who can take on apprentices? Because there are many electricians teaching apprentices bad/outdated practices. Why sit through 3 years of NVQ if you can learn the material in much less time! There are many routes to learning and people have different abilities to learn. I think Cory is suffering from the attitude of "I went through this long and arduous journey and therefore you cannot be a good unless you do it my way". It's a common attitude in the trades but electricians take it to a whole new level in general.
I entirely agree. The electrical knowledge needed to do basic domestic work safely is limited and certainly doesn't need anything like a three year course to learn. Obviously things like EV chargers and solar need additional knowledge but again neither of these is rocket science and anyone with reasonable intelligence should be able to acquire the necessary additional knowledge pretty quickly.
I'm a 37 year old Australian woman and starting a new career as an electrician, in January I'm doing a two month pre-apprenticeship course just to get into a four year apprenticeship which I won't be eligible for until I have finished the pre-apprenticeship. I will be 42 before I can get my license. I wish that I could do a 1 year course and get a permit that would allow me to get a job as an electricians mate and get a year of on job training and then licensed. I am worried that despite the government giving incentives on adult apprenticeships nobody will hire me, I'm also worried that most sparks my age are closer to retirement than they are to their start of their career.
Very nice vlog, really informative.👍🏼 Congratulations on passing the Solar Panels PV Course.👏🏼 This question is open to anyone who cares to answer it. Regarding the conversation at the end, I totally agree with you guys that some of these courses are really short & experience is key in this industry. I myself originally was planning to do a course with Able Skills LTD. In total it the duration of the course was roughly about 18 weeks. I changed my mind after watching Sparky Ninja's video. I'm now looking to do an adult apprenticeship as an electrician for domestic & commercial work. I just have one question for someone who does decide to go down the route of the 18 week course. Suppose someone decides to do such a course, they understand the implications of doing the short 18 weeks course but they also plan to work with an approved company for a few years to make up for the lack of experience. Would they still not be recognised in the industry as fully qualified competent approved electrician? 🤔
Solar is Cool Solar is Fun .But Be Careful As My Team mate Recently Found out what 580 DC Feels like he flew good lol Stay safe With PV Your tapping the Power Of The Sun. The Sun does not Care About Your Fingers . Stay safe everyone.
As im not from UK its interesting for me how you become electrician in UK. For exemple here in Slovakia there are thre levels 21 - Witch means electro technician wich to get you need have vocational school in som of electro specification and need no practice next level IS 22 - Witch means you are independet electro technician to get this you need 2 yers or 3 for qualification over 1000V im now in this position next level is 23 - electro technician for management work (you can have aprantice or som nuber of subordinates) you need another 2 to 5 years depending on education next level is 24 -revision technician for this you need graduation and ist divided to thre threts groups wich depending of education Higest from 4 to 7 yers of expirience is needed and basicli. Only one of this grup whous can cari out "IACR" its one whit nuber 24
Fun video and i cant wait for some installs. How are you going to work around the hight issue when planning and taking on jobs? As without a scaffold workingbat hight is pretty dangerous
Awesome video as usual from you guys! I am one of these short course folks you talk about, retraining after 10 years in the RAF and I would like to share my experience and thoughts on it with you. Please do get in touch
real Smart the class is a business cost you get to write off, you get to expand your skill set and by making a youtube out of it you can gain Ad money on top of the write downs you can even bill it to your youtube channel business for additional tax benefits.
what I don't understand is I am doing a 4 year apprenticeship which includes inspect and test I come out of this course as a qualified sparky and be cause I work for a company I am unable to sign off my own work unless I am NICEIC registered but I can't get registered unless I'm self employed my company is paying £18k plus for me to get qualified why should NICEIC prevent me from signing my work just because I can't join NICEIC the whole system is crap you are right we should all be government registered and with the right qualification be able to sign our own work
Watch us doing some fault finding on a solar pv system here: ruclips.net/video/C6RBzFaf9Lg/видео.html
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Top tip. They have a proper coffee machine behind the bar at that premier inn. Make friends with the staff ;-)
Iv'e been a sound engineer for the past 15 years, and was looking to move onto something a little more reliable in these times, so i decided to train as an electrician. I have done the short course route that Corey was talking about, but i definitely agree that i am not ready to be called an "electrician" yet, so i just looked up local electricians and am starting work in the next few weeks, alongside experienced people so i can learn how it works in the application, not just theory.
I train guys to become electrical installers and I am keen to explain that just like learning to drive you gain your accreditation but the real learning starts once you have your certs and start to work in the industry.
Takes 4 years to become an electrician
What Cory said about Ex Army guys doing these short courses is spot on, I did exactly that when I left and now 2 years later I'm at a proper college doing my level 2 and next year my Level 3, If I had known what I really needed when I left the Army I would have gone straight to a college.But it's a great industry and it will be worth it in the long run.
The conversation in the car at the end of the video is literally spot on!! All my views and probably many others as well!! It’s infuriating that our trade is considered less unsafe just because you can smell a gas leak, you can do a short course and be ‘qualified’ to undertake small works. As Cory said we have all work hard to get our city and guild qualifications! It’s not right... simple as that.
Well people understand gas can go boom. Maybe they should show more often pictures of houses burned by bad electricity install, burns on body from electricity , which imo is visually a lot worse than burns from open flame, in TV may be they would understand. I know when I attended school they shown us those twice a year with warning that nothing is more dangerous to themselves and all around them than overconfident electrician ... In my country both gas and electricity governing body is independent from industry, there are no fees. But if you want to be electrician you need to have proper at least two year long education (that's for 2 year courses after high school or college) or full high school (4 years) or college (5,5 years) education in electricity, Without those you will not be granted status of electrician ( journeyman electrician would probably be more sensible in English). Then after 2 years of practice (which you need to prove by shoving you worked as an electrician) you can ask for upgrade to full independent electrician (who can supervise two journeyman electricians). Alas i think people underestimate electricity (they did not in 1st half of 20th century) just because a lot of national electric bodies forced private industry to follow stringent rules, and nowadays there are few and far between cases of major property damage or several deaths at same time from electricity.
This video clearly shows how professional your normal cameraman is… 😂😂
LOL so true! Haha
I don’t know what you’re talking about, I filmed all of this... 😉😂
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Nic used to be a charity now it's plc come book seller,after saying that I have always worked for a nic company and now have taken over the company with my son's ,do find you will always get large jobs from being a member so well worth the cost ,looking forward to your first solar install vid 👍
Short courses - I agree and see both sides, I did it myself took me years, to get to the place I am now. Had to manage a full time job, work weekends holidays, then went to working part time and building it up, using the course as a foundation. You’re not ready immediately afterwards, you will need experience. But at the age of 30 I wasn’t going to college for years. The 16 weeks I did was one of the most intense things I did and up there with training as a RM Commando. Eat, learn, sleep, repeat 🔁. Many who do this will fail but I was determined not to. I’m glad I did it. My life is better for it. But lads trust me it’s not easy.
Thanks for sharing your story Mark!
I’m the same Mark ex navy and worked my ass off
Ive done 2 years of college, passed 18th, part p and 2391 yet the issue is i want experiene in the sector. However no one seems to want to give you experience because they just think you're an apprentice they can pay pennies to.They think you've just done a short course, leaned how to pass an exam not how to be an electrican. Im finding the sector so hard to get into without starting off as an apprentice. I have mortgages and bills to pay so i went down the non apprentice path and have basically now hit a wall. I could go out and do work on my own but i would feel alot more confident working with someone and gaining experinece. ps. love the videos!
Thats the issue my mate had and decided to go a completly different career, passed his NVQ3 at a college and couldnt find work or an apprenticeship for well over 5 months. I wanted to try get into electrics but cant seem to find anyone wanting to give a 25 year old a chance, despite this i keep hearing how theres a shortage of sparkys.
Installed mine last week. Best thing I’ve done on my own place this year. If you can do it yourself you can save £1000’s even the DNO were very helpful with notification. I like checking on the Grid meter in the kitchen as it reads “0” taken from the grid and I have everything running.😁👍🏻
That's interesting. Do you need to be an electrician to install solar panels?
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Same here nice to see zero. But if you read the output and you either don't have batteries or SEG. It's giving away money
In australia, I completed, 3 years at tec, 1 day a week, 4 year as a apprectice and had to show wiring experience, to become a licensed electrician. The training system is run by various government departments
Excellent video. On the short course issue, its not the courses that’s the problem, it’s the CPS system that’s the issue. Electrics domestic and industrial need to be treated the same as Gas Safe, until this happens nothing is going to change.
I did that same course there almost two years ago and it took 3 months to get certificate/ BPEC ID badge through so be prepared. I was surprised to see you doing the mounting frame practical on the floor with wheeled roof simulators, as we had to tog up in harness, hard hat and climb up a tiled roof mock up. As for not letting you leave if you don't pass the final exam...hmm if that is the case it has changed as we had a couple fail on our course.
I really hope, that more and more electricians are going to be aproved to do solar installations ! We really need to speed up the installation of new solar systems! Congrats for passing the course. Go ahead and bring the solar to a shine Jordan and Cory.
The rapid growth of domestic solar, and indeed other renewables, is becoming a headache for those responsible for ensuring the stability of the grid. Until cost-effective storage becomes available the fickle nature of wind and solar makes them unreliable contributors to the overall energy mix.
Great video , make way for cory running every electrical company on u tube
A short course isn't as easy to get on as you make out. At least not with Napit. You need to demonstrate at least 2 years experience in the electrical industry for a start. Most ppl on these courses are middle aged and have a wealth of experience from other trades/ jobs. Skills that can be cross referenced. We would all like to go back in time and do an apprenticeship, but it's not always possible later in life.
The word that was missing in your discussion about short courses, and any other course, was apprenticeship.
This is why the German system of technical training is so good for turning out skilled trades people.
The technical high schools link their apprentice trainees with an outside company in order that they leave with a proper understanding linked with practical skills and experience.
Apprenticeship schemes which linked technical college learning with practical experience were mostly destroyed by the Thatcher government of the 1980’s with the rush to convert every college and polytechnic into a university.
The rest is history - a downward slope into corporatised education, and fast fixes to get people into skilled trades without the relevant practical training working alongside skilled people. It is a system that serves no ones best interests and the quality and standard of work suffers.
In Australia there is a government issued licence in each state and in order to get it you have to have completed a 3-4 year apprenticeship. If you then want to do contracting work for yourself you have to do a business course and also a course on all the electrical legislative requirements only after that can you get a contractors licence. There are heavy fines and jail terms for people and companies carrying out any electrical work without a licence. It's a good system
I found that when I joined NAPIT with the “short course” I had to prove 2 and half years experience before they would accept me. I’m not going to get on my soap box about it coz I can see both sides like you guys. I just think if you the correct attitude then that’s what makes you a good or bad spark.
Either way really enjoyed this vid completely different from your normal stuff and it looks like you both had a blast
I totally agree with your statement there about it really comes down to the individuals attitude. I’ve seen unqualified folks who really cared about the work and doing everything right producing far better results than a qualified spark who just wants to be in and out and seems not to give a crap.
Good to see you guys enjoying yourself more videos.
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Nice 👍🏾 chaps! Can’t wait for your first video in installing a solar photovoltaic system. Cheers
Having you two chatting in the car on the way back was really nice. Do that again when you can.
For those of us who do not live in the Cambridge area, can you do a video on what questions to ask, qualifications/certifications to be expecting to be in place, age of certification etc., previous work history and references to ask of electricians who you want quotes from for domestic work, EV charge point and solar installs? i.e. How to tell a cowboy from the real deal?
You and Cory can do a posh version of RateMyTakeaway
Love it!
I'm from Belgium and I'm shocked as well hearing how your british system for qualifications & stuff does work. In Belgium, the law lists the activities (trades) which are "protected" and for which you have to bear appropriate qualifications, which are academic. Working on electrotechnical systems is of course among the list. Accepted qualifications are provided by high schools, universities or training centers for adults and these are all minimum an equivalent to a 3 year full time training (bachelor's degree).
After serving 12 years in the army, I decided I needed a change in career. This is down to having a wife and 2 young children. As much as I would love to become an apprentice and do it all “properly” financially it’s impossible. Having children to provide for and a mortgage to pay, I’ve had to go down the alternate route. Unlike most that just do the domestic installers course and go out on their own, I’m doing the level 2, 3 and then NVQ. This will still take me a few years as I’ll be getting experience in between courses.
On the short courses I couldn’t agree with Cory more, especially in regards to NIC. I’m an adult learner training to be and electrician, but I’m now in year 4 heading for my 2391-52 Arguably you can’t be an experienced domestic installer/ electrician without experiences in the working environment. I can’t imagine condensing 4 years into 6 weeks, madness
It is a great training center and the way the exam is structured is exactly the same as the Gas Qualification written exams. I don't mind the short courses but the criteria changes are fine too because it limits the type of customers and installs that under experienced electricians can do (for those knowledgeable customers that search for listed electricians).
In 2012 I did Domestic Gas on a short course - 22 days, I had background that supported doing my Gas on top of my electrics and the college policy was "if they don't think you're safe you won't get sent for the exams". Like many of the ex forces guys though I wanted to be good at it, safe and knowledgeable so I had something that could earn me a good living. Continuous CPD is a must though for anyone wanting to do short courses and there needs to be a way for those short course takers to gain domestic installer and then approved status. It's why I've gone above and beyond my NVQ for my electrics and continued on to do commercial Gas.
In short all this does is make sure the people that may have thought about abusing NICEIC listing won't be able to be listed and in future the goal posts will shift to make sure those not of the appropriate standard aren't either. So basically self employed job in hand drive by eicr chaps that wouldn't care either way.
the dynamic artisan duo strike out into the sun! the panels are out!
glad the course went well for you both 😊
Sort courses are fine imho if the person is committed as well to get the experience to become a good electrician. It is the experience that will take the time and needs to be supervised. The apprentice route is not really an option for older people as there just isn't enough openings.
Great video guys, I'm doing my BPAC course in June with NAPIT in Bristol, looking forward to a new avenue for my company
"Corey is on coke" does not imply he's being a good boy... lol
I agree that short course are not a good way form someone to enter the electrical industry. I work for a railway infrastructure maintainer as an electrical engineer, started as an apprentice 45 years ago, we deal with every voltage below 33kV both ac and dc. When we interview people for jobs as technicians, we do not do much install work, it is quite shocking that some of the candidates profess to be 'electricians' but are lacking in not only practical experience which we can deals with, but the total lack of understanding the science, Ohm's law is quite fundamental many not able to answer even simple questions.
Welcome to solar land! As you might have already seen in the field; there’s a lot of cowboys still doing their thing. And it’s not only the lack of regulations to blame for that.
Hope you’ll be cathcing on the rhythm of doing it the proper way. And have a lot of fun while doing so. (despite all the logistical nightmares, sore knees, challenging installs and ‘taking-far-more-time-than-expected’ project executions).
Great step forward to a more sustainable world!
Larger national companies need to recognise that older learners can be a big benefit to them and pay a higher wage to allow them to retrain and gain experience at the same time. How else can an adult with financial commitments retrain.
How many times do you hear a client say well the last electrician was NICEIC then you see the standard of work left behind.
There's lots of interesting comments here. I've recently done a 2391 course, and there were builders, electricians, engineers, ex-army and a fire fighter. All the people on the course I would describe as competent. Most of them were already carrying out electrical work but wanted to become 'legit'. I feel that if they were incompetent then they would not have passed the practical assessments and exams.
I do aggree that something needs to be done about the dangerous work that goes on, but I imagine that most of this is done by people with no experiance, qualifications or registrations... and there is nothing being done to stop them. These changes will only stop the people who want to upskill and become legit. Surely a NICEIC style assessment would be more suitable at filtering people out.
I qualified has an electrician in the late 80 and became a maintenance electrician at a dept store, but kept up to date with the latest regs. But moved in to the security alarm industry. I have decided to get my qualifications up to date but I am doing a two year course and yes a lot is set on our to set your business up not about the practical.So I do agree with you both
Nice one chaps! I'm booked in for the same course at TS4U in October, super excited about getting into storage and solar moving forweard. Can't believe it's taken so long to get around to it!
Cory does make me laugh, think we’ve got a similar sense of humour tbh
Commercial building site vibes
Regards your comments about short courses, they attract people who see being an electrician as an easy way to make money rather than it's a profession they feel drawn to, it also is a source of cheap labour for large companies who are happy to employ inexperienced staff to put in smart meters or to get contracts with letting agents. ,Unless the government puts legal requirements in place the industry will be putting peoples lives at risk.
The fact you’re getting those targeted ads is likely due to the fact you’ve just spent 5 days in proximity to other people with the same interests, on the same wifi, etc.
It’s not actually listening to you, but the aggregated data that advertising providers have on you, even if it’s not linked to you as a person, is massive. And makes it feel like it listens.
Set up ‘ask app not to track’ and things might improve ;)
i agree
Glad you enjoyed the learning !
Experience matters, having said that qualifications are useful. Many industry bodies are in my view as you agreed are problematic. Being a good electrician ultimately comes from within leveraging up your skills never being satisfied with your work and continually learning that is the key. Even though the state requirements in USA are challenging to becoming an electrician it is still the case I see poor quality installs mainly driven by doing rushed work by so-called qualified and licensed electricians.
Interesting video. I have reviewed a lot of videos on YT and the information online of the various equipment suppliers etc. for solar installation and crunched the numbers to determine what will work on my house at latitude 55 degrees North and the main roof at 183 degrees. I figured out that it is installers that are making the money now the FIT is gone. The industry is running a closed shop union for paid up MCA members so you are spot on with a proper regulated system. In Australia it is the local council that sends an inspector out to certify a system before it can grid connect. We should have this in the UK. Self regulation and certification is not a good idea in my opinion.
Essentially you need a roofer installing the panels and a sparky making the connections as the two skills and trades needed. Reality is if your roof does not point south and west you will likely not get a good yield.
I ended up going with enphase inverters as they are plug and play AC and I will start with 3 panels mounted vertically to a wall for winter sun followed by 4 panels in the spring to get 2.1 kWs peak on inverters and c. 2.9kW on panels. I do not want high amperage DC running through my house I have little confidence in a DC system though it is £100 less per panel. All the wires needed for now and up to 15 panels with isolators and junction boxes will be installed with the sparky in replacing my consumer unit and brining it up to spec. I opted to get SWA10mm to be sure of safety with the cable and junction boxes earthed and a separate Earth to the panel frames. IP65 minimum to the consumer unit. I am looking to my sparky to do a tidy job on the consumer unit and prepare for a future battery etc. As far as I can tell it is a good sparky making sure a system is safe and properly wired in, a roofer keeping the roof water tight and attractive and someone smart enough to figure out optimal yield. With 3 panels in I can run them as a calibration meter to work out the actual yield and build a system until it's not worth adding any more.
Good video and your work looks good and proper. Careful you don't eat too much that's a sure way to break the tiles....
Excellent channel showing quality work.
Gotta love the premier in stayed in the one in Oxford beside the airport when working over in St Edwards school, was over from Northern Ireland Belfast
solar panels is easy, Rule 1 follow manufacturer instructions, Rule 2 follow rule 1. i explain solar panels are like batteries in a tv remote, then most people understand
If you want to have a play with some solar test equipment before you buy anything I'm not a million miles away from you and you'd be welcome to have a go with mine. See if it's worth having before you splash out!
FWIW the IET's code of practice is very readable even if it is a bit out of date.
Also top tip for reliable systems is simple is best, keep the bits that break accessible.
I had a part-time electricians course for half a year and I don't call myself an electrician. I know I learned enough to be able to rewire my own house, but I will not do anyone else's house.
BTW, I got a low grade for the theoretical part because I didn't plan for the minimum number of outlets but what any sane home owner would want. I am building my own house now and the electricians I hired still are a bit surprised by what I want. Not much has changed since the 80's I think.
Loving the daily uploads
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I'm midway through a NT4U course its in a 9 week split block but spread over 12-24months, after the first week (the course is very full on a lot of good information so far) gained the 2392 qualification. I feel if you can provide evidence of quality works as one would in an apprenticeship and had it counter signed by a competent person who'd be a part of those governing groups that should allow the access for that person to also become apart of the groups.
The short/intensive courses can easily be managed properly by regularly planting an inspector as a student and ensuring the correct level of training is provided and if the student's quality of work isn't to the industrys standard to help guide them so they can improve and get there later on.
But I do agree with you guys half of the course is about thing's like websites, vans etc which is useful but it's got nothing to do with electrics its about running a business which personally I think isn't relevant. Like you wouldn't go to university to study medicine to find out how the administration system of the hospital works
in this video apprentices we learn that EICR stands for Electricians Indian Curry Restaurant. But do they have Pringle pakoras?
Loved the video
A week away, you bang a barmaid not go out with the trouble and strife. Liked Cory's points in the car drive home.
Cory is the DUDE
Are you going to give Boris a job he’s been down in Cornwall installing panels ready for the G7.
Good video, solar soon gets boring when it’s windy and raining 😩 wish you well with it all nonetheless 👌🏼
Hey! Really odd request, but I’m an industrial electrician and would absolutely love to come to spend a few days work with either you or Corey completely free of charge and will do any menial job you give me just to learn a few things from you both! Either way love watching your videos guys! Keep it up.
Much love Tom
Another great video. If you have 30 years elecrtical experience, 4 year apprenticeship served, compex authorised for petrochemical and off shore installations and have taken the bs7671 course. Does such a person, still legally need to do this training just to install a domestic pv arrangement such as this?
All your videos are honest and always interesting. You asked for questions about solar.......ok here is one that I have been been looking at for decades.
How many years to get my money back if I invested in a 4 kw ( peak) system with lithium iron battery storage?
At best I make it 12 years by which time the degradation and mtbf of components would be very significant. Charge management systems, inverters and battery management systems do fail.
The utilisation factor for PV systems is still less than 30% even with the latest panels and with poor FIT ( if they exist at all ) it is a must for battery storage and with the depth of discharge taken into account the battery system must surely be lithium iron.
Should be interesting if a prospective customer asks the question and I know you would give an honest answer.
By the way 20 years ago a report for the government gave the cost of all types of generation including capital cost , maintenance, and decommissioning. Most expensive by far ....off shore wind, onshore wing , PV. Amazingly the cost of these energies in the current report have suddenly dropped. The invention of a carbon market and fictitious pricing allows a equivalent carbon price to offset the actual cost of generation.
Guys if you do solar im interested. When I move in in couple weeks I’ll be in touch. Solar panels, battery pack, ev charger. Dream job?
AWESOME! GET IN TOUCH
You guys are class always a good watch
… Also waiting to get onto a PV course my local centre am have submitted a course design to C&G waiting on approval. I did a BPEC on Ventilation years ago with Nu-Aire in Caerphilly Wales 🏴. Free all we had to do was pay for the books and turn up. I opted out of solar at the time of my learning as the tariff didn’t incentivise us as the work had all dried up and solar companies going pop left right and centre….
Cory's makeover looking sweet 18:45
I know a guy, who trained as a spark in the RAF
The only trouble was he was colour blind, so he couldn't see the difference between the line and neutral!!
Wow.. in regards to that chat at the end in the car, I'm surprised that the UK doesn't have some sort of government body that does the certification for electricians. I am in Canada and all provinces require courses and a 4 year apprenticeship to get fully licensed as an electrician. It's definitely not something you can get into by taking a short course.
Wait.. what?.. A ten day course and you can start an electrical business ??? In Finland, you need to complete an undergraduate degree in the electrical industry (3 years) and you need two years of diverse work experience to complete the Electrical Safety Degree 2. Or you can complete an engineering degree after an undergraduate degree in electrical industry so you don't need work experience to complete the Electrical Safety Degree 2. Only after completing the Electrical Safety Degree 2 can you start an electrical business (all electrical work up to 1000V and 1000A excluding elevators). If you want to work on more than 1000V systems or elevators, there are more requirements and courses.
So will have to do a working at height course now you’re working on a roof. Adding battery storage to an existing system wouldn’t necessarily be a big job would it.
Very interesting class. Hope you both pass.. Good thing you inspected Hotel's electrical panel. Thumb up! Cheer!
Nice one. ! Solar pv is definitely going to get more popular in the future with ev cars
Definitely!
@@artisanelectrics did the training go into Solar + Storage systems ? I live on a boat with a Victron MPPT solar charge controller + Pylontech LiFePO4 battery + Victron inverter (+ a genset for the winter) and while not the cheapest, the quality of these blue devices (maybe not the same shade of blue as Artisan Electrics but close enough :-) ) is astonishing and the multiple ways you can configure it offer a huge lot of possibilities, specifically in applications for EV charging and solar installs not feeding back to the grid (if this can make sense in some specific cases).
About tables for two, what do you think of this one : 15 years ago two colleagues of me were on a full week business trip in Valenciennes, North of France, to test our new metro trains on the railway testing center located there. One was 45 years old and the othe 60, both married men with kids. That day they booked a table for two in a random restaudant in the town as usual, after a very long day of work. They arrived at the place, all the tables were pimped up with nice decorations, candles and all the stuff, and once sat down they felt a strange look and some smiles from other customers and restaurant staff..... it was the 14th of February :-D :-D :-D
Not Gatwick there mate Crawley Manor royal. Companies like to pretend its "London" Gatwick about 15 miles from the nearest Borough and 38 to the centre.
Great video guys, Parsons Pig if I'm not mistaken. Food is very good!
Interesting, had solar for 8 years, it’s been great. Are you thinking of also doing battery storage alongside solar?
Sat in a premier inn watching you pair in a premier inn. Standard.
See a really good mate keep up the good work on here mate form Greg Bouchard am a big fan of u do a really good job
So microinverters or single large inverter? That is the question! Considering that a major failure point is the DC switch off the array.
The chicken burger looked like a heart attack on a plate 😵 Cory obviously enjoys Indian cuisine 👍👍 Like you, Jordan, I enjoy a good coffee with breakfast - I use an Aldi pod coffee maker and companion milk frother. Very interesting to see you both at the course.😃👌👏👏👏 industry self regulation does not work - training qualifications need to be set by government regulation and administered by a government authority.
Solar at the seaside isnt always the best.. if its right on the front you have the problem of seagull crap.. plan proventative measures and inform your customer prior to install that theyll need to get someone in to regular clean the panels!
Anyone get the impression the Boss isnt allowed fry up breakfasts at home?
LOL how did you guess
To be fair who goes to work with a greasy Joe's in there stomach that early,find a nice cafe about 11 ish 👍
Must have been a dog in his 5th life.... Squirrel 🐿🐿🐿
Still waiting for the Artisan Electrics theme song by Cory! I saw the guitar case in the hotel. 🎸🎸
Brilliant vid guys. 😄👍
Well done guys.
Best wishes for both of you..
This is a bit tongue in cheek but a little ironic that Cory is waxing lyrical about short courses and no experience but you are now both solar installers after a 4 day course with what sounds like an exam you cannot fail unless you really tried hard to.
Domestic installation in itself is not rocket science. Anyone with a decent aptitude can learn to do it just as quickly as you learnt how to do solar. And is Cory's idea of experience being apprentices? So what next? A standard for who can take on apprentices? Because there are many electricians teaching apprentices bad/outdated practices.
Why sit through 3 years of NVQ if you can learn the material in much less time! There are many routes to learning and people have different abilities to learn. I think Cory is suffering from the attitude of "I went through this long and arduous journey and therefore you cannot be a good unless you do it my way". It's a common attitude in the trades but electricians take it to a whole new level in general.
I entirely agree. The electrical knowledge needed to do basic domestic work safely is limited and certainly doesn't need anything like a three year course to learn. Obviously things like EV chargers and solar need additional knowledge but again neither of these is rocket science and anyone with reasonable intelligence should be able to acquire the necessary additional knowledge pretty quickly.
Any good reference materials for PV? I'm sure IET have a COP for it
The hair dryer outside the bathroom always makes me laugh. British standards comparison haha
I'm a 37 year old Australian woman and starting a new career as an electrician, in January I'm doing a two month pre-apprenticeship course just to get into a four year apprenticeship which I won't be eligible for until I have finished the pre-apprenticeship. I will be 42 before I can get my license.
I wish that I could do a 1 year course and get a permit that would allow me to get a job as an electricians mate and get a year of on job training and then licensed.
I am worried that despite the government giving incentives on adult apprenticeships nobody will hire me, I'm also worried that most sparks my age are closer to retirement than they are to their start of their career.
The animals died for you😂😂
he's speaking facts about instagram listening
Perhaps a little off topic but what was the Indian called? The food looked great. I may be heading down to Trade Skills 4U for a course in the future.
The Parsons Pig - such a hidden gem!
@@artisanelectrics Nice one. Thanks.
Did you actually also have power storage included with the solar ? It might take another corse, I guess?
Very nice vlog, really informative.👍🏼 Congratulations on passing the Solar Panels PV Course.👏🏼 This question is open to anyone who cares to answer it. Regarding the conversation at the end, I totally agree with you guys that some of these courses are really short & experience is key in this industry. I myself originally was planning to do a course with Able Skills LTD. In total it the duration of the course was roughly about 18 weeks. I changed my mind after watching Sparky Ninja's video. I'm now looking to do an adult apprenticeship as an electrician for domestic & commercial work. I just have one question for someone who does decide to go down the route of the 18 week course. Suppose someone decides to do such a course, they understand the implications of doing the short 18 weeks course but they also plan to work with an approved company for a few years to make up for the lack of experience. Would they still not be recognised in the industry as fully qualified competent approved electrician? 🤔
Solar is Cool Solar is Fun .But Be Careful As My Team mate Recently Found out what 580 DC Feels like he flew good lol Stay safe With PV Your tapping the Power Of The Sun. The Sun does not Care About Your Fingers . Stay safe everyone.
Your best video - ever. Thanks
As im not from UK its interesting for me how you become electrician in UK. For exemple here in Slovakia there are thre levels 21 - Witch means electro technician wich to get you need have vocational school in som of electro specification and need no practice next level IS 22 - Witch means you are independet electro technician to get this you need 2 yers or 3 for qualification over 1000V im now in this position next level is 23 - electro technician for management work (you can have aprantice or som nuber of subordinates) you need another 2 to 5 years depending on education next level is 24 -revision technician for this you need graduation and ist divided to thre threts groups wich depending of education Higest from 4 to 7 yers of expirience is needed and basicli. Only one of this grup whous can cari out "IACR" its one whit nuber 24
Fun video and i cant wait for some installs. How are you going to work around the hight issue when planning and taking on jobs? As without a scaffold workingbat hight is pretty dangerous
Awesome video as usual from you guys!
I am one of these short course folks you talk about, retraining after 10 years in the RAF and I would like to share my experience and thoughts on it with you. Please do get in touch
Yeah sure please drop me an email
@@artisanelectrics done ✔ 👌
real Smart the class is a business cost you get to write off, you get to expand your skill set and by making a youtube out of it you can gain Ad money on top of the write downs you can even bill it to your youtube channel business for additional tax benefits.
what I don't understand is I am doing a 4 year apprenticeship which includes inspect and test I come out of this course as a qualified sparky and be cause I work for a company I am unable to sign off my own work unless I am NICEIC registered but I can't get registered unless I'm self employed
my company is paying £18k plus for me to get qualified why should NICEIC prevent me from signing my work just because I can't join NICEIC the whole system is crap you are right we should all be government registered and with the right qualification be able to sign our own work
Please can you provide details for Solar Renewables who assisted in your first Solar installation?
Surprised you didn't take the Tesla down. There's a supercharger right nearby to Gatwick now the service centre has reopened
"pull over you are going to get a ticket", what was happening at the very end of the video?
What camera setup do you guys typically use?