As a Canadian, I can confirm we don't do well in the heat, so it's only natural our armoured vehicles will have an A/C system to keep us chilly and comfortable.
The BV (Boiling Vessel) and Heater in the LAV III are a dismounts best friend. You can get in saturated and within 20min are dry and having a hot brew and scoff. Rumour has it various devices may also be able to be wired into the CSAM (tv screen for the dismounts) but I could never confirm nor deny seeing a Playstation plugged into one. The screen is great but takes some getting used to sitting in the back especially when you are seeing what the turret is looking at in one direction whilst the wagon is moving in another. It can give you some mean motion sickness so we would generally change to the drivers view/camera until we needed the turret view.
I can confirm an M113 in US service in Germany back in 1999 that had a TV screen and Playstation installed. And as a loader on the Abrams I was quickly taught how to wire in a set of headphones to the intercom so we could listen to music through our helmet headsets.
For rent 8 wheeled mobile home. amenities: ac, heater, tv oh and a 25mm auto cannon, Numerous mgs and smoke grenade launchers that may or may not be modified into a security system
As an original LAV Gen I crew member it was amazing to see a Gen III. Made our LAV25 look like a musket ball system. Amazing how tech advances. Now they have a Gen 6.. wow
Fun fact, if you flip the battle override switch on in the turret, you can pin the driver's hatch shut with the muzzle of the cannon, and trap your driver in there while the rest of you go for lunch. 😄
They have divested all LAV 3's and making them into LAV 6's. This is the workhorse of the Dragoons along side the TAPV and the Leopard c2 tank. 1:35 thats the Canadian flag along side The RCD flag (Royal Canadian Dragoons) the first armored regiment in Canada -started out as a cavalry unit in 21 December 1883. I served with this unit until August 2021.
You men TAPV? Before I got out of armoured school, I got a chance to see the the replacement for Coyote - the TAPV. There was a digital chip that told the manufacturer, that after so many kilometers of off-road driving, your vehicle had to be sent to manufacturer for servicing. It drove us nuts! I'm sure that by now CAF armoured personnel and officers found a way to bypass this bullshit clause. Hello Raytheon!
So, the bench seats don't exactly indicate an "early" LAV III. Even LAV 6.0 on domestic use aren't typically fitted with blast seats, they typically sit on pallets at the unit. With the blast seats in your interior space is compromised a lot, so unless that threat is real it doesn't make sense to install them. So yeah, you'll find those identical benches in a LAV 6.0 ISC even today.
That is an early LAV3, but I'm not determining that from the seats. Those SPECIFIC benches appear to be really early ones, but its hard to specifically tell from the video angles. There are a few differences, but they're not 'jump out at you' Unless that vehicle is in a museum/display its probably been relegated to parts.
@@HerculesRockefellerESQ Yep, sorry if I indicated I was attempting to tell people this was infact, not a LAV-III. Just that the whole "seats only" thing isn't too reliable.
Interesting point about the motorized seats... The Bison AVGP, which was a predecessor to the LAV 3, had power driver's and crew commander's seats. Apparently, there was someone killed by the seat when they leaned over the seat from behind while the seat back was up, and bumped the lever to raise the seat. For my seven months driving or CC'ing a Bison in Afghanistan, I was more worried about my seat killing me than I was about the Taliban's mortars.
I see the Cheiftan being mechanically raised to a comfortable driving position in the Lav and I think he is in his happy space. A vehicle that dosen't not require acrobatics to get in and out of. 😂😂😂
thanks for another amazing video, it's always cool to see something fairly modern and in complete condition. I paused and stared at that dash full of switches for a whole minute.
Funny enough, around the time you commented this I was on a highway in Ontario talking to some friends about how I want to see a LAV on the highway cause I'm pretty sure they're street legal.
Such a beautiful vehicle this LAV-III, so well made, "by people for the people", lovely! Thank you for an amazing video, Chieftain, that was interesting!
Nice , been wanting to see you give an overview of this system…On a joint SMU/ Tanker Bradley census south of Baghdad I was very impressed by the 25mm for suppression and it was preferred over 120mm due to us MSG/SGM squadies have to always be on the outside vs inside the Tracks…..cheers
I found those chain-guns fascinating. More of a 'machine' that spits bullets than a traditional 'machine gun'. Chieftain, you aught to do a short on it's workings, for the uninitiated.
Thanks for doing this video Nicholas. Excellent to watch one of your video's of a vehicle I actually know. I spent a lot of time in the back. That letter box in the bustle was used to feed linked belts of 25 to the gunner. It allowed us to keep the bin topped on. I avoided vehicle qual's like the plague as I loved being on the ground. I managed to do 6 years in a mech battalion without a LAV qual, which is rare. A high operational tempo and reconnaissance course helped with that. I do love the LAV however, and am very grateful for the 25 and it's effectiveness.
Closer to a Stryker, actually. The Strykers are based on LAV-IIIs (same hull), and many were built at the same factory as the LAV-IIIs. The LAV-25 is based on the older LAV II hull (AKA the 'Bison' in Canadian use).
@@ArmouredPhalanx Technically, the Coyote and Bison are based on the LAV-25 as it predates both vehicles by a bit. Fun fact, the design process for the Bison supposedly only took seven days.
@@XanderTuron It does, that's why I said based on the LAV II (as in the common platform), not based on the Bison (a specific variant). I created the original Bison (armoured personnel carrier) article on Wikipedia and included the 'seven days' bit of trivia from the attributed source, which may be where you got it. I should have mentioned the Coyote, too, but blanked on it. The LAV-25 was developed from the AVGP/LAV I (Grizzly) in Canadian service, and the AVGP was based on the MOWAG Piranha from Switzerland.
Australian AFV's have an air conditioning system. But it is designed to keep the temperature inside the AFV the same as it is outside.. The thinking goes that when the troops disgorge from the back they do not experience any dramatic temperature change and thus they experience no environmental shock..
@@TheCoolCucumber Yes.. thats true.. But Australians and Canadians can get accustomed to each others evironment if they live in the other country for a year..
Dunno about the weather, but all I need for bad drivers is a 1920 Pattern Rolls Royce Armoured Car. A Vickers Gun is more than enough for what I have to put up with. And who doesn't want a Rolls?
The military pattern tires wouldn't do well on icy pavement;). It weighs about 16 tons but I had one skid several feet on black ice one time when we were just idling along at about 10 km.
I've always thought that one of the logistics versions without a turret would make an awesome overland RV with proper modification. They will go anywhere that common sense allows and can even cross bodies of water so turning one into an RV just makes sense in my mind and it's hull makes it very secure and durable. I would definitely find a way to dramatically improve its range by removing all unnecessary equipment and adding as little as possible during conversion. I would certainly increase the fuel capacity as much as possible as well. I'm sure some modifications to the driving area would be needed as well to make it legal.
I've seen videos of these things driving on just the rims just fine in mud and snow. Really neat, though I think I still prefer tracked vehicles simply because they look cooler.
I do love the initialisms that come out of the military... GIBs (guys in the back). Also, I think the air-conditioning may be a draw-back.. because when the ramp goes down and the heat of the desert kicks in... you really don't want to leave.
Was going to buy the plans for a scale model of the LAV. When I saw you had just posted a video, this was the conversation my brain had: Braincell: Would I like to see the Chieftain talk for 10 minutes on the LAV---actually YES! *clicks link*
They're essentially the same vehicles. Just with differences here and there. These are for more purpose built than the Stryker because of how the Canadian Army works.
As a Stryker guy, I never understood for the life of me why the Army never just bought these instead of all the different Stryker variants. The USMC got it right.
Since the LAV III forms the basis of the Stryker, do you actually mean just stuck with fewer variants, rather then cramming a 105mm/mortars and etc onto it?
negative on the blast seats unless they were put in after 2007, benches were the main stay in the LAV III in Afghanistan for 2007 the 25mm had a stabilizer system but it did not have a lead system, all targeting was don't by the gunner and the reticle system in the main sight the grenade launchers had HE ammunition, but in all of the tour of 2007 were never used it. most times the connection in the launchers got covered in sand and wouldn't fire even smoke
you didn't happen to lose an I phone 6 in one did you? You'd be surprised at the stuff we found in there during teardown, you guys really didn't police up your brass to well! lol
@@curtisfieten9750 nah, hadn't lost anything in one. founds lots of goodies myself though. At 1vp we detail cleaned all those 3's before we turned them in for 6's.
LAV_III does the Canadian Army know one was gone far afield??? No track tensioning, Chieftain is a sad LTC... Goes for a drive in LAV, Chieftain is no longer a sad LTC. (sigh) my misspelling is legendary.... o~0
@@taichanie LAV's are Lightly Armoured Vehicles. They are an APC. Armoured personal carrier with a 25 MM chain gun and two machine guns. The 25 MM auto cannon or chain gun is used for fire support to aid dismounted Infantry. Even the Stryjer Mobile Gun System (MGS) with a 105 mm main gun is not a tank. Most tanks have 120 plus mm main guns, thicker armour, heavier and are tracked. Wheels have less mobility than tracks.
These are the vehicles that the US Army should have purchased in lieu of the ICV Stryker. I remember going through a couple New Equipment Training (NET) with GD. They would always ask us what we thought. My question was always, "Where is the 25mm version?" Now here we are almost 20 years later throwing turrets on Strykers...
turret has its own downsides when it comes to maintenance hours. if you want a high readiness LAV to kill some insurgents 50cal will do just fine for a fraction of the manhour in the EO shop. problem with the 50 is when the enemy bring their BMPs.
Rode these a bit in Afghanistan. I liked the TLAV better which was basically a modernized M113. seemed to survive RPGs and IED's better and was more capable off road. Didn't have the nice 25mm the LAV3 did though. With full gear loadout you're only getting 4 guys in the back.
If they are going to be replaced in Canadian service by something newer hopefully we can sell them do some South American country or something like that. Save for a few examples for museums.
Replace them. Didn't the government spend millions updating them, and other versions are going to be or are being introduced. I think they should be augmented by better armored tracked vehicles, but not replaced.
Naw, once no longer in govt service, that should be given, with working weapons and a basic ammo load, to taxpayers. I know some cannucks that could really use a lav for run-n-gun
@@regregan6852 lol, thats what they tell the public. LAV6s are complete rebuilds and share very little common parts with the LAV3. even the maintenance tooling are completely different.
Oh! And I just remembered about that video I told you about over on your AK-47 video short. I'm really sorry about that. I had found it, but something had come up and I kind of forgot. Anyways, the video is on RUclips, the title is General Dynamics US Army Prototype M4 replacement NGSW 6.8mm. Sweet looking weapon in my opinion. The bid comes from True Velocity, Lonestar Weapons - General Dynamics. That's what the guy, Chris Cappy says in the opening. It's the video with the plastic ammo and after firing a LMG, Chris Cappy put his hand into the weapon's feed and wasn't burnt. He actually said it was only so-so.
When the USMC got the LAV they had no idea what to do with it. Marine doctrine at the time was still stuck in the WW1," a tank exists to support the infantryman" mode.. LVT's were strictly transport units, attached to the PBI for an operation and then detached, they weren't organic to the infantry. And in any attempt to use the LVTP7 as an APC against first class enemy would be suicide, because it was a target the size of a Pennsylvania Dutch barn (it had to be that big to live in surf and not sink). Essentially the USMC had no doctrine of mobile, combined arms warfare. It was ready to go invade to invade Iwo Jima, but fighting against the Russians not so much. So what do you do with fast, lightly armed and armored vehicles that took their own infantry with them? One thing you were' not doing with them was conduct 20th century siege operations against fortified islands. Now all USMC Armor officers attended the US Army's Officer Basic and Advanced Courses, about a third of which was devoted to Cavalry operations (1/3 Common Subjects 1/3 Tanks 1/3 Cavalry). In the absence of their own doctrine, they took the US Army's Cavalry doctrine home with them and the LAV Battalions, like the legendary Captain Jenks, became "Horse Marines". The process continued for many years. I attended the Amphibious Warfare Staff Officer Course at Quantico (The USMC's equ9valent of the Army's Command and General Staff College at Leavenworth)- a rare assignment for an Armor officer - and came to realize that I was there as much to help educate my classmates about mobile warfare as I was there to learn about amphibious operations.
25 mm is quite obsolete for modern vehicle. It won't cut against any modern IFVs. Most nowadays have 30 or 40 mm and their armor is designed to stop anything lower.
New Zealand operates a version of this called the NZ-Lav III, bought from Canada. Not sure exactly what the differences are or if we just added NZ Infront of the name.
Very few differences. Interesting that this is now in a museum and Canada is updating to LAV6. NZ will have to wait a few more decades before any (if at all) upgrades.
@@damolux3388 Defense is not high on the list of budget allocation for governments either side of the fence so you are probably right. Although the lavs are probably good enough for the types of operations NZ undertakes now or for a few years into the future?
Ex-kiwi Father in law told me NZDF ordered twice as many as they needed, thinking the government of the day would reduce the order by 50%.... then the government signed off on the order and the army were stuck with the lot!
@@SnoopReddogg Not entirely correct. The original plan was to fully motorise both regular infantry battalions in NZLAV. Which with vehicles for the combat school for training and a few spares for through life sustainment equals about the 105 purchased.
@@SnoopReddogg yea not quite. They were originally aiming to motorise both Bns rather than the old org of sharing when required but then found they couldn't actually crew them all due to the increased manpower required (2 per m113 for 1 bn vs 3 per NZLAV for 2 bns) so reverted back to the old way of essentially battlefield taxis rather than dedicated armour. Essentially it was a manning problem in the end (as with many NZDF units, even today), they had a plan, bought the right numbers for that plan, then changed the plan back so then obviously ended up with spares.
The Belgian army has them too. Just another turret mounted on it with a 30mm dual feed chaingun. I talked to some guy's who operated those vehicles and they said it is underpowered in the terrain. 360hp is a joke. Why not drop a Scania V8 in it with 750hp? It has nearly the same dimensions as the Cat engine
It’s supposedly a Light Armored Vehicle, not an IFV. This was not meant to be a full infantry armored vehicle, like a CV90. It’s designed for roads and light deployments.
@@petesjk well yeah that's what's those guys told me too. Bud the brass are using them wrong, that's why there going to be replaced by griffins and jaguars. Same story with our dingo's. Good for road use here in Europe, not in Afghanistan where they broke down due to the hot and dry climate and also underpowered for that terrain. It seems that our army has a tendency to always buy underpowered vehicles. The unimog's, iltis, Volvo trucks, iveco trucks,......all underpowered.
Hey is there anyway we could get a video about autoloaders made...? Since there are so many in the game, and I realize many would be different, it would be cool to see what the actual manual vs auto process looks like? Any ideas?
is it just me or was that the best entrance by the Chieftain
It just needed the theme music from Thunderbirds are Go!
You could say he rose to the occasion.
@@88porpoise 😂
@@88porpoise 000%
@@AndyM_323YYY l was expecting 2001: A Space Odyssey music.
Left disappointed 😞
As a Canadian, I can confirm we don't do well in the heat, so it's only natural our armoured vehicles will have an A/C system to keep us chilly and comfortable.
Great for cooling beer too!
haha ya, the heater sucks though. Front two guys sweating, especially on their feet. The guys at the very back freezing.
@@matteast2101 it would help if you guys didn’t shove the barrel for the 25mm in the rear mounted heater.
@@smathet7766 what?
agreed!
The BV (Boiling Vessel) and Heater in the LAV III are a dismounts best friend. You can get in saturated and within 20min are dry and having a hot brew and scoff. Rumour has it various devices may also be able to be wired into the CSAM (tv screen for the dismounts) but I could never confirm nor deny seeing a Playstation plugged into one. The screen is great but takes some getting used to sitting in the back especially when you are seeing what the turret is looking at in one direction whilst the wagon is moving in another. It can give you some mean motion sickness so we would generally change to the drivers view/camera until we needed the turret view.
I can confirm an M113 in US service in Germany back in 1999 that had a TV screen and Playstation installed. And as a loader on the Abrams I was quickly taught how to wire in a set of headphones to the intercom so we could listen to music through our helmet headsets.
@@timsmith4548 nothing like setting the scene with the right soundtrack over the comms as you're rolling out of the FUP
For rent 8 wheeled mobile home. amenities: ac, heater, tv oh and a 25mm auto cannon, Numerous mgs and smoke grenade launchers that may or may not be modified into a security system
Interesting!!
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As an original LAV Gen I crew member it was amazing to see a Gen III. Made our LAV25 look like a musket ball system. Amazing how tech advances. Now they have a Gen 6.. wow
You should see a 700.
what LAV BN where you in? I was in 2nd tanks tow co and 3rd Marines TOW plt
Fun fact, if you flip the battle override switch on in the turret, you can pin the driver's hatch shut with the muzzle of the cannon, and trap your driver in there while the rest of you go for lunch. 😄
8:28 HE launchers instead of smoke, for when you really want all infantry in front of you to go away.
If memory serves me right, on the control panel you can only shoot HE one at a time. Smoke or phosphorus rounds can be shot all 8 at once
@@patt3469 yep, had to test that system before teardown at GD, always wondered how effective it was.
@@curtisfieten9750 we shot red phosphorus overseas, wicked to watch until the wind blew in the wrong direction.
@@patt3469 Those are more like guidelines...if you will...
@@curtisfieten9750 what facility are you at?
They have divested all LAV 3's and making them into LAV 6's.
This is the workhorse of the Dragoons along side the TAPV and the Leopard c2 tank.
1:35 thats the Canadian flag along side The RCD flag (Royal Canadian Dragoons) the first armored regiment in Canada -started out as a cavalry
unit in 21 December 1883.
I served with this unit until August 2021.
You men TAPV? Before I got out of armoured school, I got a chance to see the the replacement for Coyote - the TAPV. There was a digital chip that told the manufacturer, that after so many kilometers of off-road driving, your vehicle had to be sent to manufacturer for servicing. It drove us nuts! I'm sure that by now CAF armoured personnel and officers found a way to bypass this bullshit clause. Hello Raytheon!
@@ildart8738 mean? yes thanks for pointing my typo 👍 now fix yours 😋
I’m thinking an episode of “OMG, the LAV is on fire” would be absolutely anticlimactic.
So, the bench seats don't exactly indicate an "early" LAV III. Even LAV 6.0 on domestic use aren't typically fitted with blast seats, they typically sit on pallets at the unit. With the blast seats in your interior space is compromised a lot, so unless that threat is real it doesn't make sense to install them. So yeah, you'll find those identical benches in a LAV 6.0 ISC even today.
That is an early LAV3, but I'm not determining that from the seats.
Those SPECIFIC benches appear to be really early ones, but its hard to specifically tell from the video angles. There are a few differences, but they're not 'jump out at you'
Unless that vehicle is in a museum/display its probably been relegated to parts.
@@HerculesRockefellerESQ Yep, sorry if I indicated I was attempting to tell people this was infact, not a LAV-III. Just that the whole "seats only" thing isn't too reliable.
those caterpillar engines really are great.. i have seen them used in all sorts of applications. Parts are readily available too.
Was a pretty reliable engine. First we really had that it took diagnostics to understand what was going on.
"Oh god the lav is on fire!" *slowly raises electric seat.*
Interesting point about the motorized seats... The Bison AVGP, which was a predecessor to the LAV 3, had power driver's and crew commander's seats. Apparently, there was someone killed by the seat when they leaned over the seat from behind while the seat back was up, and bumped the lever to raise the seat. For my seven months driving or CC'ing a Bison in Afghanistan, I was more worried about my seat killing me than I was about the Taliban's mortars.
Ohhhh hell yes, Chieftain in a LAV-III is what I didn't know I needed to see, but oh boy did I need to see it!
Chieftain forgot to show the Tim Hortons coffee cup holder.
Did you learn something new today? We just learned about motorized seats!
So now we are waiting for OT-64 SKOT and KTO Rosomaks , 🙂
I feel like you would have learned more from Patricias or Royals than from tankers about the lav.
I learned that once again it was only a short, not a proper 2-part ITCH :(
That if you want a easy life you put wheels on it and fit a Diesel engine :o)
@@teamidris absolutely. They’re a dream to maintain.
Chieftian rises to the occasion.
Chieftain go wrrrrrrrrr
Hopefully his wife says that also.
😆
Was fully expecting a “how about no!!”
I see the Cheiftan being mechanically raised to a comfortable driving position in the Lav and I think he is in his happy space. A vehicle that dosen't not require acrobatics to get in and out of. 😂😂😂
American Stryker was jointly built by both America and Canada based on Canadian LAV.
thanks for another amazing video, it's always cool to see something fairly modern and in complete condition. I paused and stared at that dash full of switches for a whole minute.
Took me back and a whole minute to remember all them..
They drive on HWY 11 occasionally. It’s hilarious watching some LAVs pass on the outside of whoever is in the right hand lane.
Funny enough, around the time you commented this I was on a highway in Ontario talking to some friends about how I want to see a LAV on the highway cause I'm pretty sure they're street legal.
spent a year sitting in those turrets salvaging parts for re-use on the 6's
From Canada with LAV... ;o)
Such a beautiful vehicle this LAV-III, so well made, "by people for the people", lovely! Thank you for an amazing video, Chieftain, that was interesting!
And then the Marines showed up and were like "No Stryker, want LAV."
Nice , been wanting to see you give an overview of this system…On a joint SMU/ Tanker Bradley census south of Baghdad I was very impressed by the 25mm for suppression and it was preferred over 120mm due to us MSG/SGM squadies have to always be on the outside vs inside the Tracks…..cheers
In the nice hot Summer weather, it's time to show off those Chieftan shorts that we all enjoy
A mighty Irishman in a Mowag! What more could you want! The seat raising bit at the start had me in stitches :)
I found those chain-guns fascinating. More of a 'machine' that spits bullets than a traditional 'machine gun'. Chieftain, you aught to do a short on it's workings, for the uninitiated.
Thanks for doing this video Nicholas. Excellent to watch one of your video's of a vehicle I actually know. I spent a lot of time in the back.
That letter box in the bustle was used to feed linked belts of 25 to the gunner. It allowed us to keep the bin topped on.
I avoided vehicle qual's like the plague as I loved being on the ground. I managed to do 6 years in a mech battalion without a LAV qual, which is rare. A high operational tempo and reconnaissance course helped with that. I do love the LAV however, and am very grateful for the 25 and it's effectiveness.
As an old Stryker guy, I love the chassis. Would of enjoyed seeing what the 25mm could do. The 50s and Mark 19s did pretty great themselves!
The 25mm absolutely rips.
Was anyone else just slightly disappointed that this video didn't open with the theme from Thunderbirds?
Just like the LAV-25 that the Marine Corps uses. I enjoyed riding around in them when I was in the Corps.
Excetp thjat I think that the LAV-III is a newr hull design than the -25.
i work on them now lmao
Closer to a Stryker, actually. The Strykers are based on LAV-IIIs (same hull), and many were built at the same factory as the LAV-IIIs. The LAV-25 is based on the older LAV II hull (AKA the 'Bison' in Canadian use).
@@ArmouredPhalanx Technically, the Coyote and Bison are based on the LAV-25 as it predates both vehicles by a bit. Fun fact, the design process for the Bison supposedly only took seven days.
@@XanderTuron It does, that's why I said based on the LAV II (as in the common platform), not based on the Bison (a specific variant). I created the original Bison (armoured personnel carrier) article on Wikipedia and included the 'seven days' bit of trivia from the attributed source, which may be where you got it. I should have mentioned the Coyote, too, but blanked on it.
The LAV-25 was developed from the AVGP/LAV I (Grizzly) in Canadian service, and the AVGP was based on the MOWAG Piranha from Switzerland.
Australian AFV's have an air conditioning system. But it is designed to keep the temperature inside the AFV the same as it is outside.. The thinking goes that when the troops disgorge from the back they do not experience any dramatic temperature change and thus they experience no environmental shock..
@@TheCoolCucumber Yes.. thats true.. But Australians and Canadians can get accustomed to each others evironment if they live in the other country for a year..
Thank you for having all that fun on our behalf
Very cool... Now I want one... To deal with the Chicago weather(and bad drivers).
Dunno about the weather, but all I need for bad drivers is a 1920 Pattern Rolls Royce Armoured Car. A Vickers Gun is more than enough for what I have to put up with. And who doesn't want a Rolls?
The military pattern tires wouldn't do well on icy pavement;). It weighs about 16 tons but I had one skid several feet on black ice one time when we were just idling along at about 10 km.
School run?
@@silverjohn6037 The weight didn't break through the black ice? Wow.
@@aaronleverton4221 It was a light pebbling from a misty drizzle on cold pavement. Almost like curling rink ice if you know what I'm talking about.
I've always thought that one of the logistics versions without a turret would make an awesome overland RV with proper modification. They will go anywhere that common sense allows and can even cross bodies of water so turning one into an RV just makes sense in my mind and it's hull makes it very secure and durable. I would definitely find a way to dramatically improve its range by removing all unnecessary equipment and adding as little as possible during conversion. I would certainly increase the fuel capacity as much as possible as well. I'm sure some modifications to the driving area would be needed as well to make it legal.
I've seen videos of these things driving on just the rims just fine in mud and snow. Really neat, though I think I still prefer tracked vehicles simply because they look cooler.
Sound guy listens to their own work now! Keep it up 👍
The amount of switches, dials, knobs and indicators looked like the controls out of modern jet airliner.
We need a full video on LAV!
It was a good move for world of tanks to secure the chieftains time
Pity...no track tension! Like it!
A great video, as usual, well done.
I like the title, Chieftain Short. I mean you know, Chieftain is tall LOL
They're what he wears on vacation
You know what's even funnier? He always wear long pants, not shorts
@@jacobfarley2332 So next we get a series named
The Chieftain's shorts?
I do love the initialisms that come out of the military... GIBs (guys in the back). Also, I think the air-conditioning may be a draw-back.. because when the ramp goes down and the heat of the desert kicks in... you really don't want to leave.
Was going to buy the plans for a scale model of the LAV. When I saw you had just posted a video, this was the conversation my brain had:
Braincell: Would I like to see the Chieftain talk for 10 minutes on the LAV---actually YES! *clicks link*
Id like to see him check out a LAV 6.0
Mighty fine vehicle
I love this man..and it’s pretty cool seeing how similar these are to the strykers that the Canadians make as well..it’s set up just like my mevv
They're essentially the same vehicles. Just with differences here and there. These are for more purpose built than the Stryker because of how the Canadian Army works.
As a Stryker guy, I never understood for the life of me why the Army never just bought these instead of all the different Stryker variants. The USMC got it right.
Since the LAV III forms the basis of the Stryker, do you actually mean just stuck with fewer variants, rather then cramming a 105mm/mortars and etc onto it?
I remember them sending down LAV's for the Army to evaluate before Uncle Sam ordered the Stryker.
@Johnny Gustav We also had a 76mm Scorpion turret Cougar FSV Varient & the Kodiak IFV
Poor Chieftain, he has no tracks to tension on this one.
I felt cheated myself. But it would be a funny thing to tell privates to check
Another great video. I would love to have words with the turret design engineer that couldn't put another 2 cm of space to get the feed chutes in.
the LAV.III and LAV.6 are the same. The LAV.6 is just an update of the LAV.III and probably the best light armored vehucle in the world.
He probably got the best job in the world… I envy this man!
Great as always sir. Keep them coming
I converted from M113A1 to NZLAV,the New Zealand version of LAV3. Awesome piece of kit,especially that M242👌👌👌......CC of U31B.
A Bradley would leave this wheel jobby stuck in the mud.
@Enclave Soldier lep 2 and challenger are better than Abrams.
Nicholas Moran, you are the greatest man in history.🙂
I like the representation of the LAV III in steelbeasts better
negative on the blast seats unless they were put in after 2007, benches were the main stay in the LAV III in Afghanistan for 2007
the 25mm had a stabilizer system but it did not have a lead system, all targeting was don't by the gunner and the reticle system in the main sight
the grenade launchers had HE ammunition, but in all of the tour of 2007 were never used it. most times the connection in the launchers got covered in sand and wouldn't fire even smoke
I loved driving those! mine was the "lorit" variant.
you didn't happen to lose an I phone 6 in one did you? You'd be surprised at the stuff we found in there during teardown, you guys really didn't police up your brass to well! lol
@@curtisfieten9750 nah, hadn't lost anything in one. founds lots of goodies myself though. At 1vp we detail cleaned all those 3's before we turned them in for 6's.
@@curtisfieten9750 I've heard some stories lol
I still want to know how to tension the tracks.
Instead you get how to properly torque the lug nuts
I still want to see wheeled or halftracks added to workd of tanks
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Sounds about right
The ticky thump sound track sux boogies.
YES YOU GO AND ENJOY YOURSELF THATS WHAT ITS ABOUT I WOULD TOO .
LAV_III does the Canadian Army know one was gone far afield??? No track tensioning, Chieftain is a sad LTC... Goes for a drive in LAV, Chieftain is no longer a sad LTC.
(sigh) my misspelling is legendary.... o~0
I weld these things, I could make a scale model by memory.
I thought he would say in the intro: "I am back."
Tech tree?
He has the best job.
Bold & Swift!
I'm surprised Military Vehicle Engineers are not on an Endangered Species List by now.
by the time you come back to australia you might have an ASLAV to look around haha
Or a Bushmaster PMV.
Hit the Tim Horten's drive through...
That was a primary consideration when deciding on the dimensions of the vehicle
Well darn…. No track tensioning in this video….
Well of course a 25mm will be more fun than a 120mm. The big gun you get one nice boom. But with autocannons you get DAKKA!
I love the Oshawa museum. I hope I can make it there someday.
I want to see a Canadian line of tanks and armored cars.
I mean. While we don’t do tanks anymore. Is that not what a lav 3 and Stryker is?
@@taichanie Huh? We have a regiment's worth of Leopard IIs.
@@lib556 not Canadian made nor designed though. That’s what I figured they meant by Canadian line.
@@taichanie Gotcha. Last Canadian tank was the Ram during WW2. And we all know how successful our fighter jet design history has been after the Arrow.
@@taichanie LAV's are Lightly Armoured Vehicles. They are an APC. Armoured personal carrier with a 25 MM chain gun and two machine guns.
The 25 MM auto cannon or chain gun is used for fire support to aid dismounted Infantry.
Even the Stryjer Mobile Gun System (MGS) with a 105 mm main gun is not a tank.
Most tanks have 120 plus mm main guns, thicker armour, heavier and are tracked.
Wheels have less mobility than tracks.
They'll go faster than that. Marines put them on the interstate. And they pass trucks.
These are the vehicles that the US Army should have purchased in lieu of the ICV Stryker. I remember going through a couple New Equipment Training (NET) with GD. They would always ask us what we thought. My question was always, "Where is the 25mm version?" Now here we are almost 20 years later throwing turrets on Strykers...
turret has its own downsides when it comes to maintenance hours. if you want a high readiness LAV to kill some insurgents 50cal will do just fine for a fraction of the manhour in the EO shop. problem with the 50 is when the enemy bring their BMPs.
LavIII "the battle Winnebago"
Rode these a bit in Afghanistan. I liked the TLAV better which was basically a modernized M113. seemed to survive RPGs and IED's better and was more capable off road. Didn't have the nice 25mm the LAV3 did though. With full gear loadout you're only getting 4 guys in the back.
Wheres the DVE? Take's me back...
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That cat diesel if it has a mechanical fuel governor is easily able to get up to around 500hp with two turns of a screwdriver.
Shhhhh, don't give the kids any ideas!
It's a 3126, it is electronically managed/controlled. The gen 2 lav had a mechanical engine, buy it was a 6V53 Detroit.
If they are going to be replaced in Canadian service by something newer hopefully we can sell them do some South American country or something like that.
Save for a few examples for museums.
Replace them. Didn't the government spend millions updating them, and other versions are going to be or are being introduced. I think they should be augmented by better armored tracked vehicles, but not replaced.
Naw, once no longer in govt service, that should be given, with working weapons and a basic ammo load, to taxpayers. I know some cannucks that could really use a lav for run-n-gun
just use them for the reserve!
They are still being used, LAV6.0s are just upgraded LAVIIIs.
@@regregan6852 lol, thats what they tell the public.
LAV6s are complete rebuilds and share very little common parts with the LAV3. even the maintenance tooling are completely different.
Oh! And I just remembered about that video I told you about over on your AK-47 video short. I'm really sorry about that. I had found it, but something had come up and I kind of forgot. Anyways, the video is on RUclips, the title is General Dynamics US Army Prototype M4 replacement NGSW 6.8mm.
Sweet looking weapon in my opinion.
The bid comes from True Velocity, Lonestar Weapons - General Dynamics. That's what the guy, Chris Cappy says in the opening.
It's the video with the plastic ammo and after firing a LMG, Chris Cappy put his hand into the weapon's feed and wasn't burnt. He actually said it was only so-so.
Great video!
When the USMC got the LAV they had no idea what to do with it. Marine doctrine at the time was still stuck in the WW1," a tank exists to support the infantryman" mode.. LVT's were strictly transport units, attached to the PBI for an operation and then detached, they weren't organic to the infantry. And in any attempt to use the LVTP7 as an APC against first class enemy would be suicide, because it was a target the size of a Pennsylvania Dutch barn (it had to be that big to live in surf and not sink). Essentially the USMC had no doctrine of mobile, combined arms warfare. It was ready to go invade to invade Iwo Jima, but fighting against the Russians not so much. So what do you do with fast, lightly armed and armored vehicles that took their own infantry with them? One thing you were' not doing with them was conduct 20th century siege operations against fortified islands. Now all USMC Armor officers attended the US Army's Officer Basic and Advanced Courses, about a third of which was devoted to Cavalry operations (1/3 Common Subjects 1/3 Tanks 1/3 Cavalry). In the absence of their own doctrine, they took the US Army's Cavalry doctrine home with them and the LAV Battalions, like the legendary Captain Jenks, became "Horse Marines". The process continued for many years. I attended the Amphibious Warfare Staff Officer Course at Quantico (The USMC's equ9valent of the Army's Command and General Staff College at Leavenworth)- a rare assignment for an Armor officer - and came to realize that I was there as much to help educate my classmates about mobile warfare as I was there to learn about amphibious operations.
25 mm is quite obsolete for modern vehicle. It won't cut against any modern IFVs. Most nowadays have 30 or 40 mm and their armor is designed to stop anything lower.
I had a lot of these exact things, like that water heater, in my Stryker.
Stryker is based on the LAV-III
@@thanato3798 I saw a whole lot of similarities but I wasn't sure which came first. Cool!
I've seen plenty of them driving at 80kph on the highway going to and coming from Valcartier.
What? No "bugger my tank is on fire"?
New Zealand operates a version of this called the NZ-Lav III, bought from Canada. Not sure exactly what the differences are or if we just added NZ Infront of the name.
Very few differences.
Interesting that this is now in a museum and Canada is updating to LAV6.
NZ will have to wait a few more decades before any (if at all) upgrades.
@@damolux3388 Defense is not high on the list of budget allocation for governments either side of the fence so you are probably right.
Although the lavs are probably good enough for the types of operations NZ undertakes now or for a few years into the future?
Ex-kiwi Father in law told me NZDF ordered twice as many as they needed, thinking the government of the day would reduce the order by 50%.... then the government signed off on the order and the army were stuck with the lot!
@@SnoopReddogg Not entirely correct.
The original plan was to fully motorise both regular infantry battalions in NZLAV. Which with vehicles for the combat school for training and a few spares for through life sustainment equals about the 105 purchased.
@@SnoopReddogg yea not quite. They were originally aiming to motorise both Bns rather than the old org of sharing when required but then found they couldn't actually crew them all due to the increased manpower required (2 per m113 for 1 bn vs 3 per NZLAV for 2 bns) so reverted back to the old way of essentially battlefield taxis rather than dedicated armour. Essentially it was a manning problem in the end (as with many NZDF units, even today), they had a plan, bought the right numbers for that plan, then changed the plan back so then obviously ended up with spares.
Its literally a Stryker with a 25mm turret
Technically, the Stryker is a LAV III without the turret.
Ah i see, I use to be a driver now im a dismount
I wish they'd sell me one of these surplus...
The Belgian army has them too. Just another turret mounted on it with a 30mm dual feed chaingun. I talked to some guy's who operated those vehicles and they said it is underpowered in the terrain. 360hp is a joke. Why not drop a Scania V8 in it with 750hp? It has nearly the same dimensions as the Cat engine
It’s supposedly a Light Armored Vehicle, not an IFV. This was not meant to be a full infantry armored vehicle, like a CV90. It’s designed for roads and light deployments.
@@petesjk well yeah that's what's those guys told me too. Bud the brass are using them wrong, that's why there going to be replaced by griffins and jaguars. Same story with our dingo's. Good for road use here in Europe, not in Afghanistan where they broke down due to the hot and dry climate and also underpowered for that terrain. It seems that our army has a tendency to always buy underpowered vehicles. The unimog's, iltis, Volvo trucks, iveco trucks,......all underpowered.
Hey is there anyway we could get a video about autoloaders made...? Since there are so many in the game, and I realize many would be different, it would be cool to see what the actual manual vs auto process looks like? Any ideas?