I'm an ex-tankie mate, trained on Chieftain, Challenger 1 and 2, Scorpion/Scimitar and 432. It was interesting to be reconnected with a Chieftain again, thanks for that, good video.
Wargaming has a kind of contract with the tank museum, a mutually profitable business strategy, Gaijin aren't really capable of this and don't have much interest in it, besides, WT isn't just tanks.
Got my full drivers licence in chieftain. Had learner plates on the NBC pack. Gun rear. Happy memories of 1987 in Catterick. Ex 14/20 Kings Hussars. Ex Kings Royal Hussars. Thanks for the video.
Hello good Sir, than would you be so kind to answer me a question If you can? I and my room mate were wondering how you access the ammunition left and right next to the drivers position? We are both playing War Thunder and there the Chieftain is modeled that way. But were a bit curious about it, because there are some racks with propellants right behind those amo racks Thank you in advance, have a good day
+G4mb7t When not in combat the tank would pull back from the firing position and redistribute the main gun rounds from the hull to the turret, in some tanks it was possible to move them without leaving the tank at all, simply rotate the turret 180 degrees and the driver could be accessed from the turret. You don't usually do this in combat because of the obvious risk while the main gun is down.
Wargaming Europe good to hear this stuff from a proper tanky! cheers! you didnt point out the highly technical totally useless outlet for the mythical heated suits! great video, never gets old.....my first memories of my service was seeing a line of chieftains on SPTA near Tilshead camp...bloody impressive!
I doubt anyone who hadn't been a crew member on a Chieftain would have shown us the BV. I cannot imagine having no way to boil water for tea and coffee. I agree it's probably the most important piece of equipment on the entire tank. :) Thanks a lot for the video!
Got to ride on the chieftain as I was in the Infantry. Remember it was nice and warm on top of the engine. saved us a lot of walking... All the Best from 1R.G.J
I started out as a REME cadet (ACF) 2/8 Hvy Armoured Recovery Unit. We trained with the T.A at Mexborough. We use to go to the "Satan camp" training area at Ollerton in Nottinghamshire at week-ends. Most of the time we cadets got the shit ends job of digging out. We did get lucky though and were allowed to do driver training in the" Churchill" Recovery tanks, plus I had a cabby on the massive great big recovery bulldozer that was there. Loved every minute of it at 14 years old. Many years later I was with 1RTR has a Royal Signals corporal, Forward Air Control driver operator. I was the regimental photographer also. I use to go out with the Squadrons doing photo shoots.I loved going with the REME technicians doing gunnery sight tests on the Achmer training area just outside Osnabruck. I was the driver and photographer. All tests were recorded as photos which I produced on 10x8". (1/4 Plate) copies. These were sent to various places by secure means and I got paid for each one. and the photo session. I took photos of lots of other mods and faults on "The Chieftain". These were all security restricted and no civilian photographer was allowed near, ence I got the job and payed the rate for it.
Well I'm not a gamer of any type but I must recommend your video to a friend of mine Rtd US Army tank commander in M48s and M60s. He'd love it. Have to say I could spend days at Bovington. Next time must also spend time to visit Clouds Hill on the bike....all the best, Scotty
Pretty roomy looking in comparison with others shown.Seems like they put a good deal of thought into crew comfort and I really like the Loader's firing guard,nifty idea.
Armed with the same gun as the Conqueror. Wrong....the Conqueror was fitted with L1 120mm, this was a (US) designed gun, and was the same as fitted to the M103. The Chieftain was fitted with the Royal Ordnance (British) designed L11A5 120mm gun. N.B. This gun was also fitted to Challengers. And was the first NATO standard tank gun.
Hi Todd, did the plains of Alberta in 1979! The union between the UK and Canada comes home to you! There was however a beer strike that year in Alberta! Our SQMS had to take a convoy of wagons to Moosejaw and return with enough beer to keep us going for two months! epic stuff! The SQMS is the hero, still killing russians for jesus!
I was a gunner on Chieftain in Germany with The Life Guards. The German pack's of 25cl bottles fitted perfectly in the ammo racks. We used the .30 ranging gun which fired 3 rounds of tracer at a time.
This bright back many memories, I was with an infantry regiment in Germany, the chieftain had a very distinctive sound and this may come as a surprise to any civilian who hasn't served that at night a stationary tank was impossible to find by sight of you were on a recce patrol. The only way we could find them was by following their tracks and following the smell of diesel, and even then sometimes you could walk right into the side of one, beck then the night viewing kit we had was pants. The phone on the back of the tank I had to use serval times as a section commander needing to contact the tank commander to relay directions onto a target I needed to take out, and I can assure you it is not a very nice place to be, at any moment as you approached the rear of the tank they could jockey their position and flatten you, this is why in the infantry it was nicknamed the grunt phone, you tend to grunt when you've got 50tonnes of armour on top of you 😂 😂, many times as we were fighting through enemy positions the tanks would then push through at speed, sectarian times guys were nearly crushed to death as the tankies had limited view around them, it was an occupational hazard that you had to be switched on to. In one occasion if been on a recce patrol, during our time away from our defensive position tanks attacked our platoon position, when we returned we realised just how lucky my sect had been, a tank had driven directly into our 4 man battle trench that was fully revetted, the tank had then done a neutral turn on top of the trench totally destroying it, if we'd been in it then I'm pretty sure people would have died that night, but it makes for an intresting story. There were very real dangers working with heavy armour and live ammo, but we get our own back in Canada and shoot the back bins up of the tanks when they were in front of us., seeing sleeping bags disintegrate was quite amusing for us, but for then, sorry guys.
I got to sit in the vehicle commander's seat in a Chieftain whilst on exercise on Salisbury plain, back in the 80s. A few tanks hauled up next to our harbour area. Really interesting. The crews were obviously used to curious infantry soldiers 😎
Great videos. I hope that you continue to make them in the future; its obvious you are very knowledgeable. Its nice to hear how the crews actually used the tanks, which is something you don't find much in books.
I spent the Cold War as an infantry platoon commander. I've spent many happy hours crouched behind one of these. If the SLR was the right hand of the free world, this was the (British) left hook
have just discovered this series and i must say i'm very impressed by your videos explaining the different mechanics of the different tanks. i play world of tanks aswell and its nice to see that alot of research is put into developing these vehicles for their use in game. if your a world war 2 or military nut like myself then i have to recommend bovington tank museum as it is a great day out and you can learn alot about your favourite military vehicles. keep these vids coming :)
Such an awesome tank. I do wish the engine would have been scraped and replaced early on so the tank didn't get such a bad reputation from it. I know the Khalid variant solved they engine problem and is quite a beast. The Chieftain looks absolutely fantastic in the Berlin Brigade camo pattern. is the metal lip around the driver's hatch for fording operations?
I may be mistaken but I’m sure Diggs referred to the MRS light projector unit as the being the gunners auxiliary sight? He always made more sense when he had a few beers inside him. Seriously though, great chap and very knowledgeable. Hi Diggs!
meanwhile the T72 is still in service. The most interesting thing about this tank is the arc projector search light, an honorable mention for the tea water boiler
Nice video and I would say Richard must have trained on this tank during the 1980s to the 1990s and I would say they still use a working FV4201 at the tankfest along with a FV214 Conqueror tank and this tank would be the British tier X heavy after the FV215B is removed and this tank in World of tanks would go head to head with a Maus or a IS-7 tank both are German and Russian tier X heavy tanks and for this Tanks gun its used to this day on the Challenger II as the L30 since both the L11 & L30 guns fire the same round
When is the Chaffee coming to "Inside the Tanks"? I can't wait for it as it was in norwegian service, and at the local fort there is a turret from one in the Artillery museum. I really want to know how it functions, and if that turret may be missing some pieces.
The Cheiftan tank is my favorite Western MBT. I love it's looks and durability. The other Western tanks are the German Leapord 2A4, and French AMX-30. But this one the Chief is my favorite.
He is wrong at 7:34 the CCMU isn't the computer, it is a dumb switch box and display unit. The computer is within the Computer Interface Unit (CIU), which is under the driver's seat, which, unfortunately we don't get to see.
it is so advanced. In most tanks in game commander had just some holes to look even no optics. And many tanks before tier VI used just gunner hand power to tun turret and control gun elevation. He had to tun wheel to one side or to other.
It could be argued that a precedence has already been set by WoT, for the inclusion of a Chief variant, because of the T62A (the rifled gun) version of the T62, production stopped on the T62 in the mid 70's.
+Shorjok I had an opportunity to drive a privately-owned Chieftain last year. The Chieftain employs the reclined driving position tested on the FV4202. It's reasonably roomy by tank standards once you're in there, but it may require gymnastics for a tall driver to get into position and close the hatch. Once in position it's reasonably comfortable, but at 6' and with a long torso, I wasn't able to get my body fitted down into position to actually lay back. I think I would either have to slither in head first or develop a bit more flexibility to hunch my body, as there wasn't enough room to move my legs forward when I tried to transition from head-out to the reclined position. There are tillers to turn the vehicle, as well as accelerator and brake pedals. Shifting gears is accomplished with a motorcycle-style peg shifter operated by the left foot.
if you think its comfy it isnt basically think of sitting in your car take out the seats replace them with school seats and have the engine stuffed in with you
There was a knack to getting into the drivers seat especially when the turret was gun rear. Challenger is very similar in the struggle the larger gent has getting in.
Andy, what you tend to forget is; tanks are designed to fight battles/wars, and not to compete in Trophy events. Besides the Leopard 1 was never able to out-gun the chieftain, why? because the Lep1 was fitted with the Brit L7A3 105mm; where as the Chief's had 120mm L11A5's. As a note did you know L7's where fitted to M1 Abrams, T54/55's, Israeli, Indian, Pakistani, Japanese, Egyptian & Swedish tanks; to name but a few.
"The Challenger inside the Chieftain" really sounds like some twisted tumblr yaoi fanfic on the Wargaming crew. EDIT: And the opening sentence "Now obviously the Chieftan is very dear to my heart" only adds to the effect.
In fact, the T-72 did not appear in numbers until very late in the Iran-Iraq war when most Chieftains were already out of service due to poor reliability of their engines and a lack of spares parts. Notice that iranian Chieftain were also penetrated near the gun's mantlet by 115 mm APFSDS from Iraqi T-62. Israeli have tested the Chieftain but were not satisfied. So, they began the development of Merkava.
good vid, however when at the rear I don't remember my panzer having indicators, just a minor slip me thinks... good review thou and brought back some memories, pity he didn't sit in the cab and start up or get the back decks open.
I thought you would show to us the driving post, because you were a pilot in a Chieftain 6:52 "and we are going to look at each of the crew stations in turn."
I love how The Challenger, himself being a tank driver, describes the Chieftain and doesn't show the driver's position. After all, that's where he spent most of his time.
+Mojo_Salem It's hard to show the drivers position in the Chieftain since the driver lies on his back and with the turret it makes it impossible to film inside the position think of the angles :).
Every tank crewman in the British army has to start out as a driver and work their way up the tank to commander, unless you start out as a commander then you stay where you are.
+Sam Ashcroft Or, you start out as a Gunner/Loader & radio-op, and only later qualify as a driver (and therefore full crewman) as I did - and thousands of others that went through JLR-RAC.
oh and on a personal note, was there a discussion on weather to include the brit modified sherman 'firefly' to WoT and if so why was it not included. it would have been a nice tank to play imho with the lovely 17 pounder.
I'd like go visit the tank museum in Dorset,I've always had a fascination with tanks,...does anyone know if they let you go inside the tanks at Bovington or are you only allowed to walk round the outside?
Yes but he really needs to stop pronouncing glacis plate wrong and stop calling everything a glacis plate. Yes, I was trained on Centurion and Chieftain, at Bovington too, so I also know what I'm talking about.
I talked to a Challenger 1 commander once and he said that the turret interior has ''terrible'' ergonomics because it was identical to the Chieftain's. Was the Challenger 1's turret basically that of the Chieftain's with Chobham armour added ?
+ThamMalaysia Very similar in layout, due to the same gun, radios, and crew positions but really that is where the similarity to Chieftain ends, Different sights, different engine, different transmission, different suspension, very different to drive.
What did he cal that plate? The glassias plate? Glacias plate? What does it mean? Also, why is the cannon wrapped in a thermal barrier? I would think that it would be best to get rid of the heat. Is it to mask the heat signature from thermal sights?
1. Glacis Plate. Probs referring to the thin plate to prevent water from travelling up the hull front and into the driver's hatch. 2. In extreme cold or hot whether, unequal heat distribution could cause the gun barrell to warp, so the sleeve slows and spreads the difference.
+a11m0n The glacis plate is the front section of the hull of a tank. From the front it's largest part of a tank and is generally the part of the tank with the thickest armor. It is sloped to allow many projectiles fired at it to deflect instead of penetrate. If the projectile penetrates the angled glacis meant that it had more armor to pass through. From Wikipedia: "For example, a round aimed at 4" of plate steel set on a 45-degree angle will have to pass through 5.67" of material to penetrate, increasing effective thickness of the armor by 41.5 percent." Just remember it's the entire front of the tank's hull between the treads not including the turret which also had thick front-facing armor and the mantlet.
The thermal sleeves help to distribute the heat all around the barrel this helps to prevent the barrel from warping and therefore becoming less accurate. Imagine a red hot barrel being hit by a cold wind from one side. The barrel would expand on the hot side and bend the barrel slightly this would cause the sighting system to go out of alignment. This would make the firing system less accurate.
ah no worries i wont pester you with all my questions then, although when they first added the brits i was certain they would have the firefly or the achilles TD. in future i better wait and see before getting my hopes up :p
Superb gun, massively armored, well equipped and designed ..Only the engine and its unreliability let down an otherwise world beating tank. Leyland have taken much of the blame, but the spec called for a 'multi-fuel' engine that turned out to be the Cheiftains achilles heel. Foreign armies who bought the tank had a hard time with the unreliability unless they had an inherent work ethic and were trained well. The supply chain as a result had to be professionally run, even in British army service the Cheiftain was a love/hate relationship for it's well trained crews. With a more reliable and powerful diesel engine like the one in the Challenger, this tank would have been the ultimate tank of its generation.
I'm an ex-tankie mate, trained on Chieftain, Challenger 1 and 2, Scorpion/Scimitar and 432. It was interesting to be reconnected with a Chieftain again, thanks for that, good video.
Same here mate , other than the challenger , great memories QOH....
I mainly play War Thunder, but these Inside the Tanks series are awesome, something that War Thunder lacks.
Christian Gunawan yeah ikr
Yah plus do u play on pc
well, their historian doing the job to make players didn't leak any classified document. That's why they are don't have time to do this kind of works.
Wargaming has a kind of contract with the tank museum, a mutually profitable business strategy, Gaijin aren't really capable of this and don't have much interest in it, besides, WT isn't just tanks.
Like his Army style of explaining things, clear and to the point.
Got my full drivers licence in chieftain. Had learner plates on the NBC pack. Gun rear. Happy memories of 1987 in Catterick. Ex 14/20 Kings Hussars. Ex Kings Royal Hussars.
Thanks for the video.
Hello good Sir, than would you be so kind to answer me a question If you can? I and my room mate were wondering how you access the ammunition left and right next to the drivers position? We are both playing War Thunder and there the Chieftain is modeled that way. But were a bit curious about it, because there are some racks with propellants right behind those amo racks
Thank you in advance, have a good day
+G4mb7t When not in combat the tank would pull back from the firing position and redistribute the main gun rounds from the hull to the turret, in some tanks it was possible to move them without leaving the tank at all, simply rotate the turret 180 degrees and the driver could be accessed from the turret. You don't usually do this in combat because of the obvious risk while the main gun is down.
Ah I see, well thats quite an explanation, thank you very much :)
Heath Eynon my dad was ex 1420 also HUSSAR
I'd your dad Neil or Steve?
Love the fact there is actually an boiler inside :D Very good for crew morale!
VonGrav That's where the English term for a kettle or teapot - a 'bivvy' comes from. Boiling Vessel = BV...
+VonGrav
Every British tank up to the modern Challanger 2 has a BV.
+mookie2637
A "Bivvy" is a place to sleep in - a tent or lean-to - short for Bivouac.
+mookie2637 BV-Boiling Vessel, Bivvy- Bivouac (The tent)
Wargaming Europe good to hear this stuff from a proper tanky! cheers! you didnt point out the highly technical totally useless outlet for the mythical heated suits! great video, never gets old.....my first memories of my service was seeing a line of chieftains on SPTA near Tilshead camp...bloody impressive!
I doubt anyone who hadn't been a crew member on a Chieftain would have shown us the BV. I cannot imagine having no way to boil water for tea and coffee. I agree it's probably the most important piece of equipment on the entire tank. :)
Thanks a lot for the video!
We had BVs in our Pinzgauer Medium Utility Vehicles for my light role HVM battery. Indispensable!
What's most amazing is that they crammed so much stuff into one small space, no advanced electronics, only gears, levers and switches everywhere.
I wish I'd still had my Chiefey. Loved it. 07FA00 RIP
I looked up your tank, apparently it is now a hard target at a tank firing range. RIP indeed.
07fa00 is a hard target at batus.
@@steven9562 😥
Got to ride on the chieftain as I was in the Infantry. Remember it was nice and warm on top of the engine. saved us a lot of walking... All the Best from 1R.G.J
I started out as a REME cadet (ACF) 2/8 Hvy Armoured Recovery Unit. We trained with the T.A at Mexborough. We use to go to the "Satan camp" training area at Ollerton in Nottinghamshire at week-ends. Most of the time we cadets got the shit ends job of digging out. We did get lucky though and were allowed to do driver training in the" Churchill" Recovery tanks, plus I had a cabby on the massive great big recovery bulldozer that was there. Loved every minute of it at 14 years old. Many years later I was with 1RTR has a Royal Signals corporal, Forward Air Control driver operator. I was the regimental photographer also. I use to go out with the Squadrons doing photo shoots.I loved going with the REME technicians doing gunnery sight tests on the Achmer training area just outside Osnabruck. I was the driver and photographer. All tests were recorded as photos which I produced on 10x8". (1/4 Plate) copies. These were sent to various places by secure means and I got paid for each one. and the photo session. I took photos of lots of other mods and faults on "The Chieftain". These were all security restricted and no civilian photographer was allowed near, ence I got the job and payed the rate for it.
Thank you, really kind, The Challenger
Makes ya realise just how sofisticated these machine's are when ya see the guts of the beast
Thanks for this Richard.
I have been asking the Chieftain for quiet a while now to do his namesake tank.
as an ex sub guy i give all tankies respect! Cool description.
Well I'm not a gamer of any type but I must recommend your video to a friend of mine Rtd US Army tank commander in M48s and M60s. He'd love it. Have to say I could spend days at Bovington. Next time must also spend time to visit Clouds Hill on the bike....all the best, Scotty
B.V was definitely the most important feature on my wagon. Good documentary.
"Locking wheel nuts" - yes, you would need them in some UK towns.
Pretty roomy looking in comparison with others shown.Seems like they put a good deal of thought into crew comfort and I really like the Loader's firing guard,nifty idea.
Armed with the same gun as the Conqueror.
Wrong....the Conqueror was fitted with L1 120mm, this was a (US) designed gun, and was the same as fitted to the M103.
The Chieftain was fitted with the Royal Ordnance (British) designed L11A5 120mm gun.
N.B. This gun was also fitted to Challengers. And was the first NATO standard tank gun.
my farther commanded the chieftain in the 1420th kings hussars he loved it more then the challenger
Hi Todd, did the plains of Alberta in 1979! The union between the UK and Canada comes home to you! There was however a beer strike that year in Alberta! Our SQMS had to take a convoy of wagons to Moosejaw and return with enough beer to keep us going for two months! epic stuff! The SQMS is the hero, still killing russians for jesus!
Todd McPherson The best days of my life, I love Canada, I love the owners of the bars in Medicine Hat as they loved our money!
I was a gunner on Chieftain in Germany with The Life Guards. The German pack's of 25cl bottles fitted perfectly in the ammo racks.
We used the .30 ranging gun which fired 3 rounds of tracer at a time.
This bright back many memories, I was with an infantry regiment in Germany, the chieftain had a very distinctive sound and this may come as a surprise to any civilian who hasn't served that at night a stationary tank was impossible to find by sight of you were on a recce patrol. The only way we could find them was by following their tracks and following the smell of diesel, and even then sometimes you could walk right into the side of one, beck then the night viewing kit we had was pants. The phone on the back of the tank I had to use serval times as a section commander needing to contact the tank commander to relay directions onto a target I needed to take out, and I can assure you it is not a very nice place to be, at any moment as you approached the rear of the tank they could jockey their position and flatten you, this is why in the infantry it was nicknamed the grunt phone, you tend to grunt when you've got 50tonnes of armour on top of you 😂 😂, many times as we were fighting through enemy positions the tanks would then push through at speed, sectarian times guys were nearly crushed to death as the tankies had limited view around them, it was an occupational hazard that you had to be switched on to. In one occasion if been on a recce patrol, during our time away from our defensive position tanks attacked our platoon position, when we returned we realised just how lucky my sect had been, a tank had driven directly into our 4 man battle trench that was fully revetted, the tank had then done a neutral turn on top of the trench totally destroying it, if we'd been in it then I'm pretty sure people would have died that night, but it makes for an intresting story. There were very real dangers working with heavy armour and live ammo, but we get our own back in Canada and shoot the back bins up of the tanks when they were in front of us., seeing sleeping bags disintegrate was quite amusing for us, but for then, sorry guys.
I got to sit in the vehicle commander's seat in a Chieftain whilst on exercise on Salisbury plain, back in the 80s. A few tanks hauled up next to our harbour area. Really interesting. The crews were obviously used to curious infantry soldiers 😎
the show is getting better and better, it would be great if you could open the engine compartments and give some detiels on them
Great videos. I hope that you continue to make them in the future; its obvious you are very knowledgeable. Its nice to hear how the crews actually used the tanks, which is something you don't find much in books.
My dad served on the mk 9 chieftains and i remember seeing them at the bovingto tank park
I spent the Cold War as an infantry platoon commander.
I've spent many happy hours crouched behind one of these.
If the SLR was the right hand of the free world, this was the (British) left hook
have just discovered this series and i must say i'm very impressed by your videos explaining the different mechanics of the different tanks. i play world of tanks aswell and its nice to see that alot of research is put into developing these vehicles for their use in game. if your a world war 2 or military nut like myself then i have to recommend bovington tank museum as it is a great day out and you can learn alot about your favourite military vehicles. keep these vids coming :)
Such an awesome tank. I do wish the engine would have been scraped and replaced early on so the tank didn't get such a bad reputation from it. I know the Khalid variant solved they engine problem and is quite a beast. The Chieftain looks absolutely fantastic in the Berlin Brigade camo pattern. is the metal lip around the driver's hatch for fording operations?
I was in the Berlin Armoured Squadron with our tanks in that camo pattern, it's incredibly effective. And yes, the plate at the front is for fording.
I was there when he filmed this. I met the Chieftain :D
Had 5 great years in one of those B sqn 4/7 RDG Detmold happy days too much beer 👍🏻
Hi mate, yes I do play and work full time for Wargaming, I certainly do have many views,,, more than would fit here I'm afraid.
I may be mistaken but I’m sure Diggs referred to the MRS light projector unit as the being the gunners auxiliary sight? He always made more sense when he had a few beers inside him. Seriously though, great chap and very knowledgeable. Hi Diggs!
This needs to be added in the game!
I agree it's a great tank, what tier do you think it should be? I'd say 8 or possibly 9.
FlavonoidzExplosion nah no way, came on Xbox one and PS4 it's a tier 10
i have WoT on PS4, I should try to get this tank I think
The Bearded Slug I free xp up to the conq :p pay2win for me
Atomic Astronaut oh, if I wanted to get it for myself I will have to get it by playing many battles
meanwhile the T72 is still in service. The most interesting thing about this tank is the arc projector search light, an honorable mention for the tea water boiler
Absolute beast of a vehicle... LOVE IT!
Yo Momma got wrecked by a T-62 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Nasr
Glad to see they're showing a 4/7 RDG tank. B SQN 4th 7th Royal Dragoon Guards. QS (Quis Separabit)
excellent vid. I really enjoy your depth of knowledge and enthusiasm for your subjects
I am sure you used yo be a gunnery instructor at lulworth and you took my commanders course on CR2.
Harry's bar in Weymouth!!!! Awsome
Nice video and I would say Richard must have trained on this tank during the 1980s to the 1990s and I would say they still use a working FV4201 at the tankfest along with a FV214 Conqueror tank and this tank would be the British tier X heavy after the FV215B is removed and this tank in World of tanks would go head to head with a Maus or a IS-7 tank both are German and Russian tier X heavy tanks and for this Tanks gun its used to this day on the Challenger II as the L30 since both the L11 & L30 guns fire the same round
When is the Chaffee coming to "Inside the Tanks"? I can't wait for it as it was in norwegian service, and at the local fort there is a turret from one in the Artillery museum. I really want to know how it functions, and if that turret may be missing some pieces.
Richard plays WoT, as do most of the community staff, I saw him running a Type 59 a couple of times in the quieter periods at Tank Fest this year.
I love the fact the BV hasnt changed at all lol
Thank god we can make tea.
much more in depth considering his personal experience with the tank
The Cheiftan tank is my favorite Western MBT. I love it's looks and durability. The other Western tanks are the German Leapord 2A4, and French AMX-30. But this one the Chief is my favorite.
He is wrong at 7:34 the CCMU isn't the computer, it is a dumb switch box and display unit. The computer is within the Computer Interface Unit (CIU), which is under the driver's seat, which, unfortunately we don't get to see.
it is so advanced. In most tanks in game commander had just some holes to look even no optics. And many tanks before tier VI used just gunner hand power to tun turret and control gun elevation. He had to tun wheel to one side or to other.
It could be argued that a precedence has already been set by WoT, for the inclusion of a Chief variant, because of the T62A (the rifled gun) version of the T62, production stopped on the T62 in the mid 70's.
At 4:20 that is the MRS emitter. Not an auxiliary site. That was to the right of the main gun.
excellent tour!!
I need one for that slow morning commute. I'll get them moving.
Great video! Very well talked through! Cheers :)
The commanders position looks comfy
Loving these films,found that really interesting, good Job Challenger
very nice documentary series from Wargaming.
great video but why didn't you show the drivers position? this tank looks like it was very comfy compared to many others.
+Shorjok Unfortunately the drivers position had a massive fan sitting on the seat, so couldn't get in or see anything.
+Wargaming Europe Thanks for replying so fast, and that's a shame. Would like to see you revisit it if only briefly.
+Shorjok I had an opportunity to drive a privately-owned Chieftain last year. The Chieftain employs the reclined driving position tested on the FV4202. It's reasonably roomy by tank standards once you're in there, but it may require gymnastics for a tall driver to get into position and close the hatch. Once in position it's reasonably comfortable, but at 6' and with a long torso, I wasn't able to get my body fitted down into position to actually lay back. I think I would either have to slither in head first or develop a bit more flexibility to hunch my body, as there wasn't enough room to move my legs forward when I tried to transition from head-out to the reclined position. There are tillers to turn the vehicle, as well as accelerator and brake pedals. Shifting gears is accomplished with a motorcycle-style peg shifter operated by the left foot.
if you think its comfy it isnt basically think of sitting in your car take out the seats replace them with school seats and have the engine stuffed in with you
There was a knack to getting into the drivers seat especially when the turret was gun rear. Challenger is very similar in the struggle the larger gent has getting in.
not a bad little series keep them coming. it would be good if you did the centurion, Matilda 1 and 2 and the crusader and all the other brit tanks
all other videos are much shorter but because the challenger trained on this he made it a longer video
Went on AFV course in lugersahll on one , and other tackle was amazing 6 weeks
Now that's a TANK! I want one!
Andy, what you tend to forget is; tanks are designed to fight battles/wars, and not to compete in Trophy events.
Besides the Leopard 1 was never able to out-gun the chieftain, why? because the Lep1 was fitted with the Brit L7A3 105mm; where as the Chief's had 120mm L11A5's.
As a note did you know L7's where fitted to M1 Abrams, T54/55's, Israeli, Indian, Pakistani, Japanese, Egyptian & Swedish tanks; to name but a few.
Man that thing is huge even by tank Standards
No, on "Tiger Day" only, or by invitation I'm afraid
"The Challenger inside the Chieftain" really sounds like some twisted tumblr yaoi fanfic on the Wargaming crew.
EDIT: And the opening sentence "Now obviously the Chieftan is very dear to my heart" only adds to the effect.
Interesting series. Thank you.
In fact, the T-72 did not appear in numbers until very late in the Iran-Iraq war when most Chieftains were already out of service due to poor reliability of their engines and a lack of spares parts.
Notice that iranian Chieftain were also penetrated near the gun's mantlet by 115 mm APFSDS from Iraqi T-62.
Israeli have tested the Chieftain but were not satisfied. So, they began the development of Merkava.
I've been to that Tank museum and had the privilege to sit in the gunners seat.
So did I..... 3 days solid in Canada on exercise. That's why I became a driver
Unfortunately the Labour government of the time decided British Leyland should build the L60 engine and not Rolls Royce. It's time for an 'Oh My God'.
It was pressures from nato which forced us to use a multi-fuel engine. Same fate as the em3 rifle.
That boiling vessel looks suspiciously simmilar to the one we had on CV90 IFV's in the Swedish Army. It took three guldburkar :)
For anyone confused what a IR light is.. I believe it's Infra red.
How Ironic that the series named 'Inside The Chieftains hatch' did not get this tank, the challenger did. Makes sense...
If I ever win the lottery or become incredibly successful, one of the tanks I would love to own would be the Chieftain.
the Chieftain gunner seat looks a tad cramped when doing rapid stuff like being under attack at the same time popping smoke.
good vid, however when at the rear I don't remember my panzer having indicators, just a minor slip me thinks... good review thou and brought back some memories, pity he didn't sit in the cab and start up or get the back decks open.
+Gareth Sheasby
You're right, no indicators. Just a commander up top with his arm stuck out (and 55t of "authority" giving you right of way)
Nice, can't wait to see it ingame
It entered service in the mid-1960s, same time as the German Leopard 1 (which is already in the game).
I thought you would show to us the driving post, because you were a pilot in a Chieftain
6:52 "and we are going to look at each of the crew stations in turn."
I love how The Challenger, himself being a tank driver, describes the Chieftain and doesn't show the driver's position. After all, that's where he spent most of his time.
+Mojo_Salem It's hard to show the drivers position in the Chieftain since the driver lies on his back and with the turret it makes it impossible to film inside the position think of the angles :).
Every tank crewman in the British army has to start out as a driver and work their way up the tank to commander, unless you start out as a commander then you stay where you are.
+Mojo_Salem Unfortunately we could not get in or show any of the cab otherwise would have loved to.
+Sam Ashcroft
Or, you start out as a Gunner/Loader & radio-op, and only later qualify as a driver (and therefore full crewman) as I did - and thousands of others that went through JLR-RAC.
oh and on a personal note, was there a discussion on weather to include the brit modified sherman 'firefly' to WoT and if so why was it not included. it would have been a nice tank to play imho with the lovely 17 pounder.
The Challenger inside the Chieftain. Somewhere someone's fanfiction sense must have been going nuts.
I think the FV4202, the tier 10 British medium, was the basis for the Chieftain, so technically the 4202 is a Chieftain :)
is this the same Chieftain used in demolition ranch video where h blows up his truck
I'd like go visit the tank museum in Dorset,I've always had a fascination with tanks,...does anyone know if they let you go inside the tanks at Bovington or are you only allowed to walk round the outside?
he really knows his stuff.
Yes but he really needs to stop pronouncing glacis plate wrong and stop calling everything a glacis plate. Yes, I was trained on Centurion and Chieftain, at Bovington too, so I also know what I'm talking about.
My dad worked on the Chieftan and the challenger 2 prototype
To the left of the gunners sight hood was not the axial gunners sight
Nothing upsets me more than hearing the word “glacious” plate..
I was waiting for the hot box for tea.
I talked to a Challenger 1 commander once and he said that
the turret interior has ''terrible'' ergonomics because it was
identical to the Chieftain's.
Was the Challenger 1's turret basically that of the Chieftain's
with Chobham armour added ?
Challenger 1 is a modified Chieftain, so yes, to an extent.
+ThamMalaysia Very similar in layout, due to the same gun, radios, and crew positions but really that is where the similarity to Chieftain ends, Different sights, different engine, different transmission, different suspension, very different to drive.
Yes, I know the optronics, engine and suspension are different.
I was referring to the ergonomics of the turret interior. Thanks.
ThamMalaysia Challenger's turret is not the same as the Chieftain's. It's also a welded one, whereas the Chieftain's is cast.
+Tiles Murphy
I see. Thanks.
What did he cal that plate? The glassias plate? Glacias plate? What does it mean?
Also, why is the cannon wrapped in a thermal barrier? I would think that it would be best to get rid of the heat. Is it to mask the heat signature from thermal sights?
1. Glacis Plate. Probs referring to the thin plate to prevent water from travelling up the hull front and into the driver's hatch.
2. In extreme cold or hot whether, unequal heat distribution could cause the gun barrell to warp, so the sleeve slows and spreads the difference.
+a11m0n The Glacis Plate he refers to is the sloping front of the hull the part he puts his hand on is a splash guard
+a11m0n The glacis plate is the front section of the hull of a tank. From the front it's largest part of a tank and is generally the part of the tank with the thickest armor. It is sloped to allow many projectiles fired at it to deflect instead of penetrate. If the projectile penetrates the angled glacis meant that it had more armor to pass through.
From Wikipedia: "For example, a round aimed at 4" of plate steel set on a 45-degree angle will have to pass through 5.67" of material to penetrate, increasing effective thickness of the armor by 41.5 percent."
Just remember it's the entire front of the tank's hull between the treads not including the turret which also had thick front-facing armor and the mantlet.
The thermal sleeves help to distribute the heat all around the barrel this helps to prevent the barrel from warping and therefore becoming less accurate. Imagine a red hot barrel being hit by a cold wind from one side. The barrel would expand on the hot side and bend the barrel slightly this would cause the sighting system to go out of alignment. This would make the firing system less accurate.
ah no worries i wont pester you with all my questions then, although when they first added the brits i was certain they would have the firefly or the achilles TD. in future i better wait and see before getting my hopes up :p
It was actually quite roomy compared to some vehicles.
It will be in the game soon as the 2nd medium tank from uk
Do inside the hatch of an Type 74 please !
If you lot dig this get also Haynes Tiger Manual it a really good read.
The Centurion also head side lights.
Superb gun, massively armored, well equipped and designed ..Only the engine and its unreliability let down an otherwise world beating tank. Leyland have taken much of the blame, but the spec called for a 'multi-fuel' engine that turned out to be the Cheiftains achilles heel. Foreign armies who bought the tank had a hard time with the unreliability unless they had an inherent work ethic and were trained well. The supply chain as a result had to be professionally run, even in British army service the Cheiftain was a love/hate relationship for it's well trained crews. With a more reliable and powerful diesel engine like the one in the Challenger, this tank would have been the ultimate tank of its generation.
great video, shame he didn't show how to get into the drivers position