The Expansion That "Saved" World of Warcraft (The War Within)
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- Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2023
- World of Warcraft has been struggling for years, even with the successes of Dragonflight, the game's latest expansion. It seems that, at least to Nixxiom, World of Warcraft has been kept mostly alive by Classic WoW, Hardcore, and Wrath of the Lich King, with Dragonflight certainly being an important part of the game, but not the greatest in terms of population.
People are just tired of retail WoW, one could argue, and there's many reasons as to why. And those same people, who should not be confused with World of Warcraft haters, have genuinely been looking for a new reason to come back to the modern game and enjoy it again. Well, at Blizzcon 2023, those people got their reason. This is World of Warcraft: The War Within. The first chapter in the World Soul series - a new direction for World of Warcraft and Blizzard Entertainment.
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Sorry for the absence, everyone! Just been a busy past several days, including being sick. 100% back in business now! Thoughts on Blizzcon 2023?
will you ever make another machinima?
@@Patrious_WoW I have no plans to, unless one day I just get a giant creative itch. And if I did, it'll be uploaded to the Nixxiom Machinima RUclips channel, not this one.
@@NixxiomOnRUclips dang, you brought me alot of joy in my darkest times, i think your first wow machinima i ever watched was when Nixxiom and Mooclock were in IF and that troll was trolling them with a bunch of your mom jokes
Honestly, very happy with the new zones for The War Within (especially Hallowfall), still conflicted on them announcing The War Within along with its following expansions.
That light thing in Hallowfall is NOT Sargeras' Sword. Devs already confirmed this btw. It's a crystal giving light and it can go dark! So it's not that crazy that it might be a Naaru.
They clearly said on stage that it's a crystal. They wouldn't call a sword a crystal as a red herring imo.
I love that this video is made everytime an expansion is announced
Because they solve a few problems each time but not enough of them
@@octapusxftAlso the clickbait meta.
@@octapusxft solve a few and make more.*
@@NotTheWheel that describes the creation of mythic plus well
I'm pretty sure they said that was a crystal lighting the underground zone. I could be misremembering. Can't wait either way. This game deserves to live on.
They definitely said that many times I don't know why people keep saying it's the sword
You're not misremembering. Developer Tina Wang recently said in a Wowhead interview: "Something that I've seen online is that some people think the crystal and the crystalline ceiling is the sword - and it's not. I just want to clarify that."
That being said, I too hope that WoW will have a long and healthy future. 🤘
It's a naaru crystal. Kinda hard for it to be Sargeras's sword when it's been there for hundreds of years.
Every streamer is getting it wrong somehow haha.
@@Kylora2112 Its also way too far away from Silithas for it to be the sword. The new zones are located on the opposite side of Kalimdor even
Anduin's reaction was probably perfect depiction of every single player that had to go through that damn expansion.
And I bet with you that Chris Metzen knew that and wanted this to be a reminder how bad that actually was for all of us lol.
I liked Shadowlands a lot. Ya the first patch lasted for centuries due to COVID, but it was fun. Some stuff they did was definitely not casual friendly, but none of that was a roadblock at all for people pushing higher level content.
@@metzli5797 I liked the idea of Shadowlands, but I didn't like how lorewise nothing made any sense. And Torgast was fucking horrible in the beginning, wasting 40 minutes with a group to only wipe and lose all progress. I think I hated Torgast because of that with a pure passion, and I still do.
I can't wait for classic Warlords of Draenor
@@ray101mondyou’re on the wrong site, you’re looking for Asmons Twitch chat
@@anthonyschwartz1084
Exactly.
Concept was cool
Execution was terrible.
12:30 They said multiple times that the glowing "tip" is NOT Sargares' sword.
The funniest thing about it being the sword is that the real sword is in silithus while the crystal and new zone are in the middle of the ocean way underground lol very different locations
They say it's not the sword, because it's supposed to be a plot twist at the end of expansion. Of course it's the sword. Why do you thing those underground dwellers, that have been there for thousands of years, started troubling Azeroth only now?
And, assuming that Azeroth is a round planet, who knows, that entrance in the middle of the ocean can be the opposite point of Silithus
It's actually the Light Crystal adventurers use to destroy The Box in season of discovery during the Void Armamanets quest chain, also Xalatah shows ups and teach us how to craft gear with the shard of the void
I think its awesome we're picking up the story *exactly* where Chris Metzen left off. Now I think people will go from saying "What sword" to "What expansions?"
#Metzenverse
Metzen had nothing to do with this. He started working at Blizzard in September and stuff this big gets decided more than a year out. It probably won't be until late into next expansion or until 12.0 when any changes that Metzen makes start to show.
@@jacobshaw9820 Honestly, i wouldnt be surprised if they didnt have that much of this next expac done before metzen came in and changed course. You could kind of see how they were kind of wandering around storywise in dragonflight, not really commiting to anything big.
This might be why WW is in another new area while the next 2 are in already explored ones, because they were going to do what they normally did and hope for the best until they actually got direction.
@@TimeyWimey. Blizzard doesn't randomly decide their next 8-10 years of content within a 2 month period just because Chris Metzen got re-hired. They are a billion dollar company. I would bet any amount of money that 11.0 was already in it's infancy before Dragonflight even launched.
@@jacobshaw9820 not saying it wasn't, just that the story and overall theme were likely still very early in development because of a lack in direction. The basic mechanics and zone type/ layout were probably near completion as they weren't story reliant.
You also have to consider that shadowlands likely caused an upheaval in future expansions due to how major a failure it was. It wouldn't surprise me if the expac after dragonflight was initially supposed to be completely different from WW.
It really is amazing how noticeable the difference is between the War Within trailer/story and the last two we've gotten.
The crystal thing in Hollowfall is not the tip of Sargeras' sword. It's implied the people in that zone had been there for centuries, if not millenia. And that crystal was the thing that guided them there in visions or something. So it can't be Sargeras' sword because that would only have been there about...7 years.
Not just implied, confirmed that not sargeras sword
Its not the sword but players are stupid and things like entire ecosystems evolving under its light doesnt stop them thinking its the sword because they dont understand that would be too big of a leap of logic.
I started playing WOW in BFA and love playing retail. I love classic too. It helps that I don’t have 15 years plus of burnout that others probably have and I play pretty casually. I just can’t wait to explore and quest more. I just love being in the world haha.
BFA was my first expansion too! As someone who hasn't been in the game since 2004, I like seeing old players get excited again.
Bfa is where I came back to wow only thing I hated was the loot roulette going into dragonflight with more deterministic gearing like of old that's my favourte thing they did I hated all the titanforging poop
Shadowlands was my first expansion and I thought it was okay. Been enjoying Dragonflight a lot more.
Bfa was great, not the best but still good. As a player I apologize that you most likely played shadowlands after cause omg was that terrible T_T
Actually yes, when you didn't play to the same game for 15 years straight you will be more excited about new features and expansions. I mean, i started playing in cataclysm and then left because a i had no money, but since shadowlands i returned and played casually after work and i really love this game. And i played some classic too, but just lvling.
I think the hero talents are intentionally tame and mostly visual from what i see because they dont want to hand players legion/bfa/sl tier abilities and then have to remove them in 12.0 for balance purposes.
Id rather a talent that makes my bladestorm have a fire visual and burn enemies overtime that i keep for 5 expansions over something like bfa corruptions or neck essences or covenant powers that i get for 1 xpac.
I played Shadowlands, and the powerups I was getting in Torghast were not nearly as interesting or powerful (or even numerous) as rogue likes normally are.
Reason why I bring it up is because Torghast was a padded room built specifically for class power to go crazy in and they still didn't. I have absolutely no expectation that we will ever see Legion-level powers again. Under any circumstances.
I also continue to be surprised that they don't even allow environmental abilities. Occasionally a world quest will give you some kind of crazy weapon, but not since WoD have you just been allowed to have things like zone abilities and ridiculously powerful items out in the open world.
Abilities, zone abilites, items, there's really no reason to hold back since the open world content is so easy already...
Honestly the concern of Delves harming raids has already been a thing with Mythic+ and the system to turn gear into Tier gear overtime without ever touching raiding content. This is just another avenue to gear up. Hell most people raid in wow not for gear anymore but for AOTC/CE or a trinket that is super OP that isn't from Mythic +
The community killed the social aspect of the game, not the developers IMO. Tired of seeing player asking for a unreasonable gearscore, link ahead of the curve, inspect armory. On classic, some guild require you to have an optimal profession (which often is engineering).
The last time i enjoyed raiding was in legion. After that, the alternate power system you have to keep up with by login daily felt like a second job. I hope they do away with that.
thank you ! Finally someone said that... the community killed the social aspect of the game... perfectly said.
No need to hope, they already did away with that. You dont have any mandatory alternative power to grind in dragonflight. Its great!
@@saradelany395 But the mentality started to shift from LFG end of TLK
@@Roxar96 LFG ? TLK? I'm sorry I'm not that good at shortcuts^^''
@@saradelany395 No worry :) The feature Looking for Group (LFG)
which teleport you into the dungeons in the last patch of Warth of The Lich King (Wotlk/TLK)
Perfect summary - nailed it on Hero Talents. For that real subclass fantasy, hope they also add something like “ability skins” depending on chosen subclass (like what glyphs do but on a wider scale) eg. If you choose to be a San’layn, let’s give those players blood red eyes and reskin their abilities to be blood fx/colors.
“He’s changed. He’ll be different this time…”
i'd be slapping you were around if were in person, just for making that comparison. also you're a whack job for treating a game like a wife, touch grass,
I think there is a difference between an announce cinematic and a cinematic trailer. I just put it in the same category as Old Soldier.
I think it's great that the cinematic was so tame. It's represents the very beginning of a new story, which is where all the ass-kicking will - and should - take place. The audience knows this, that's the hook that gets them, or at least me, invested.
I'm not sure I'd use the word tame, but rather, measured and purposeful. I mostly agree with you.
Agreed. It felt like a lot of people were upset and wanting the trailer to have more action. I feel like the following two cinematics will get progressively more epic and action packed as the story gets more and more to its climax
@@jaybiven5926hmm, the cinematic was sparse.
I’ll sum it up like this: I liked the cinematic, thus i wish it had more to it.
It was just shots of Anduin and Green Jesus and then the last shot at the end. Very well done, but a bit to be desired.
I think the only big hype was Metzen. He was the cinematic.
I can agree with that. I think it would have been better if it wasn't just anduin and green jesus standing and talking. If they were talking with the screen panning to things going on in azeroth and then at the end them walking to the sword it would have been much better. Was just pointing out I think in 8 years when you watch all 3 cinematics back to back to back they will flow from boring to balls out action packed with a natural flow as the story gets more crazy@@aliceberethart
They need to have better written story lines and quests. Like in the Emerald Dream. While they have to protect the new world tree we're putting silly hats on sleeping druids, or having them bake cupcakes.
I am the most excited for the Warbands. I'm hoping that now that your characters have a shared bank that will mean players won't need their own guilds just for the bank space and actual guilds can make a comeback.
The Heroic abilites are going to be tricky. On one hand it's a neat aspect that will allow a bit more creativity for players but it will probably end up being yet another thing that people will gatekeep for meta purposes.
I'm hoping that warbands has a ui for all professions that you've levelled being able to be used by any of your chars. Say you log in on your rogue and he doesn't have enchanting or alchemy. I want him to be able to open shared professions and enchant all his gear and make himself a bunch of potions .
12:00 Actually it is not the sword. They specifically called it a giant crystal that acts as a light source (which is now going crazy and sometimes goes out, unleashing all kids of chaos). You have to remember that this zone is supposed to be something that has been there for a long time, not just for a few years since Sargeras stuck the sword into Azeroth.
Talking about delves in terms of gearing, using raiding as a baseline it seems it will go delves cap at lower ilvl heroic level, mythic+ at high ilvl heroic, and pvp caps at low ilvl mythic
The moment I saw how warbands were going to work It was like switch went off in my brain. Suddenly now I'm thinking how every character I have would interact with the others like in DnD. Witch surprised me because I should've thought of this before but seeing with my eyes now has the story side of my brain buzzing and with all the quality of life it's going to bring I just can't wait.
A different menu screen? Thats somehow important?
At this point in the development of every expansion, they say what they think players need to hear and hype stuff that, on release, will be very different from how it is currently being presented.
Blows my mind it still baits people and people like this channel are encouraging people to take that bait. I mean I guess it’s his job so there’s something in it for him
To be fair, the cinematic was more hype than Dragonflight's announcement cinematic. But it is disappointing to have two expansions back to back that dont have a real hype moment.
It does fit retail, though. All the main villains are gone, their plan is to set one up over the course of 3 expansions (I think?) for a better payoff, but given how sterile and bland the narrative has been since Mists I wouldn't expect much.
Delves definitely reminds me of the warlords expansion to some degree. I doubt if any gear you get from these will be anywhere near as powerful as you can get from raids or even 5 man dungeons....at least the heroic versions of 5 mans. Like you said the main pull of the game for a lot of us who have played forever is the social part of the game.
Anytime I hear someone complain about a CGI cinematic; I always think back to when they released the WotLK cinematic (I think it was gamescom?) online and everyone was losing it over how the cinematic was crap because it was the first time it wasn't just a montage of fight scenes. Said it was too slow, boring, not enough action etc...
Now WotLK is one of the greatest cinematics they ever made and cherished by millions and billions lol
But I thought TWW announcement cinematic was really good. I'm a man who's been through some shit and it made me tear up the couple times I've watched it. Metzen even prefaced it by saying the epic moments are often begun with the kinds of moments in the cinematic. It's not the actual expansion one. Hell, they made two different ones for dragonflight.
I'd wager there's going to be more of those than we have previously seen. They really wanna finish the last 20 years with a bang. Looking forward to it.
Yeah, I'm not jumping on the hype. Train of how good the expansion looks when no one has even played the same song-and-dance. On previous expansions that turned out terrible
THAT IS NOT A SWORD. Confirmed by all devs who was asked about it. It's crystal which changes color from light to void. So yes, there COULD be Naaru in it
Still a sword
@@grilledleeks6514 🤣
Here's the good thing about the Hero Talents.
Blizzard can tweak and edit the last 10 talents to make them fit into the current expansion - rather than completely transforming an entire talent tree / breaking a character and having to spend dev time to f**k up a class again.
The bad thing is the ones we saw suggested were fairly boring - though they said these are just place-holders.
So I'm thinking the Delves will be more like ESO's Delves just wondering if it will be phased out to just me & my party or be fully opened to the world waiting to see :) also would be nice if this works out if we can get Delves in older zones maybe for transmogs or something or he'll be super Kool to see them in starter zones just for fun.
I think Delves are the best thing they could've possibly added. I understand people are worried in how it may compete with dungeons or raids, but I think people forget the easiest (and most probable way) that they are likely going to balance that, though time investment.
If you're a Mythic+ grinder you probably will have a better time, fill out your vault faster, and have more fun doing Mythic+ and still get all the rewards you could expect. The way I'd balance Delves is simply by making them a significant time investment the same way raiding or mythic+ is, so if you want to dedicate your evening to multiple M+ runs or a raid, you can do that and be rewarded for it, and you won't have to "compete" with people doing Delves because they're spending their evenings doing that instead.
I basically don't see it any different to how M+ and PvPers can gear up parallel to one another and no one complains there. I'm super stoked we have a more chill, immersive kind of world content to finally have real character progression in, and for people who don't wanna partake in it I'm hoping they won't be forced to.
As for Raiding I don't think it will die, raids are still honestly some of the most fun, unique and high quality experiences in WoW and no other MMO compares to it IMO. As someone who dabbles in all kinds of content, ease of access to gear definitely won't stop me raiding, simply for the fact that raiding with your guild, seeing the content, pushing progression, it's fun! And I'm glad I can do solo content that awards gear to improve between raids because honestly, I hate M+ and I'm excited to maybe not feel obliged to do it anymore.
I completely agree with this. Great points. Maybe it's hard getting people together to raid or maybe you just want a day to relax by yourself but still make meaningful progress. The wife and I are super excited to have these coming. 🎉
I hope they take notes from all the feedback about class fantasy from the various classic server stuff. Unlock quests or small story lines related to each Hero talent would do a lot to sell the system even if the talents end up smaller changes.
Hero Talents should be like "Destiny's Super Abilities" type of thing.
Actually, It's not Sargera's Sword It's a crystal that switches from Light to Void (KIND OF A NAARU).
As someone who loves Dwarves but doesn't really like the Alliance, the Earthen are something I'm really happy about.
Also, people are complaining saying "ugh more Dwarves", when there are 4 Elf races to choose from -_-..
Sure I get the people that want COMPLETEY NEW races, but having a new allied race of Dwarves that can be either Alliance or Horde is awesome!
It's hard not to be skeptical about anything Blizzard says. All of these features seems cool, but it wouldn't be the first time Blizzard under delivered. Wait for the game to come out and keep your hype in check.
Yea I remember all this same shit said about dragonflight and look where we’re at now, one of the lamest stories ever told with some of the most unfun things to do (like seriously planting flower as a end game activity? Jesus…)
Yes, wow youtubers just want their viewership back. Even if the expansion only added a turd on a stick they would delude themselves thinking its gonna make everybody come back.
I remember the days before SL where everybody praised "Torghast" to be the holy grail...then before DF all praised Dragon riding the Same....and now i hear "delves" and cant Stop laughing 😂 . They,togehter with warbands will finally break the Last pillar on Wow MMO basement.
I agree about the point on hero talents or whatever it is.. if you watch the 2005 blizzcon class panel, one of their focuses is having "concentrated coolness". This idea is what makes each class so unique in classic wow. Only hunters can feign death. Only rogues can pick pocket, lock pick, vanish, etc. Only mages can make portals around the world. I'd say instead of a bunch of small treants. Summoning a giant treat is even cooler. Like those big ass ones. Maybe not that big but you know. Or if you became one 💀
Yes you are, it was hype enough and Metzen CLEARLY said that it was a small heartfelt moment that will grow into an epic adventure, not like he warned us.
And it's a crystal, probably naaru since it can turn into void, definetly not Sargeras's sword. Confirmed by Blizzard.
Did it go back to normal storymodes or can you still only play the expedition?
I felt exactly the same way about the talents... I thought... melee balance druid.. now THAT would be badass!
The most exciting thing is the hero talents which it gave me fear for what it means which keeper of the grove showed, somuch passives that don’t really change the gameplay, unnecessary numbers, if it was able to turn an warlock into an healing spec or an shaman into an tank spec that would’ve been awesome like the discovery of classic does (sofar I’ve seen atm) but if it’s just being oh you get small buffs then it would’ve been an huge meh for me. Also that they went from max lvl 80 now gives me the idea I used to that scaling will becoming another problem in the long term, is also the reason why I’m not touching the game is just the endless farming & then my gameplay being irrelevant when they add an new max cap or expansion, I just want my characters to get to this power that I can enjoy it without being overpowered or underpowered, I’ve farmed 3 characters in DF to 420 but then the lvl became 450 I just stopped playing wow.
Wow has been going in the right direction since 9.1.5 when they had a major philosophy switch. Since then the game has just gotten better and better.
Dragon Flight is great and now we are heading into even more good times.
13:50 I agree. I stopped playing about 3 years ago. I watched "The War Within" teaser and thought it was a cutscene until I started diving deeper to find out the news of the saga.
Did you notice that the last titans logo is wrapped in the same prison that the iridikron and siblings were in same runes on the metal and everything. The sword was trying to break the prison
Nah, it won't hurt the social element. If everybody can finally play the game however they want, we won't have incredibly toxic guilds anymore that try to pigeonhole you into being a hardcore player, while having no idea how that actually looks.
7:03 i wonder if the bosses would be same tier of difficulty as mage tower was in legion. like the gear that would be competitive would also requires u to deal with rly difficult bosses. since it would be rly unbalanced if the gear is same level as Mythic+ dungeon or raid gear and to get that u would do stuff that is face roll easy
12:30 didn't they confirm that it aint the tip of the sword?
I haver a feeling personally, with seeing how alot of the main chars react to the opposing faction, So many want peace and are tired of fighting or that the story has led to so many times the two sides have had to pull together. It might eventually come to the player being able to pick their own faction to go to. Some thing of the sort
I really hoped hero talents would be moreso class "skins" than just some damage improvements. We've seen borrowed power and new talents added for decades already, it's not much new or exciting, the part about it that IS exciting to me is actually being able to customize your class fantasy a bit. I think if they just leaned on it being the equivalent of "green fire" options but for all classes it'd be super popular even without power attached to it.
100% agree with this!
Is it posible that after ten years, the tauren pala (a blasphemy in my head canon) shares the same spell skins of the human pala?
I feel like the reason Warbands FINALLY got the OK, is that the other continent will be a 3rd "Faction" of sorts. Probably not a playable faction, but a long term faction that actually puts the might of 2 United Nation (essentially) working together, a challenge.
I would absolutely take a 3rd faction with suddenly a ton of playable races though. But I think that'd be near impossible to justify to the players. And it'd make PVP BGs really weird
The Hero Talents is where they can stretch the trees in the future. For at least 20-30 levels possibly?
Without changing the Core Class, you unlock these "Hero" classes (reminiscent to WC3) after you hit 71? That's good up to level 100 or 110 before they have to squish and reformat again from level 50 being cap.
Haven’t played since Legion and am definitely coming back for this.
Same 👍
Hear you on the cinematic not being an epic gung ho deal… but I think that was kind of the point. Metzen is back and they are leaning into the story more, which is nothing but good news.
For the record, you ripped that 405 deadlift. 455 in the bag
I like the implication that Xal'atath might win and take over Azeroth. We all secretly wanted N'zoth to win so we'd get a dark shadow-corrupted world to explore, right? Midnight might be very similar to that idea. Personally the one I'm looking forward to most out of the three.
If they do it like: She win in first expan, in second you bring all together and in third you go and kill her, then you got rid of the void with fully wake Azeroth, that would be cool
It's wild how low your expectations have to be to play WoW these days. I haven't played since BG3 came out and don't see myself going back no matter what they do. I've said that before but as Maitoz said, "Enough is enough."
yet here you are on a WoW channel, keep telling yourself that, maybe you'll convince yourself you aint full of shit. lol
12:05 I actually thought this, but it was confirmed in a dev interview that the crystal sticking out of the Hallowfall zone celing is not the Sword of Sargeras
Can’t agree more on Hero Talents. I want them to feel really awesome. Like for warriors Colossus. What if they have a cool down where they grow to like twice the size of a regular player, and their footsteps do aoe damage. Jumps are like heroic leaps
It is weird that I have been playing this game for nearly half my life, it is part of me now, I buy the expacs whether I am planning on playing them or not (I know stupid) But even at 51 gaming is still my main hobby and warcraft represents my enduring love for gaming. Completly agree with your take on hero talents, they do seem a little tepid, but maybe that gives them room to grow over the expac or even trilogy of expacs, if they give us everything all at once where do they go with it from there?
retail lookin so hype, warbands are something that should’ve been implemented long ago, delves seem like Skyrim dungeons.
Every time I hear someone say "another dwarf?!" I think...and how many elves do we have now?
lol precisely, or Humans, let's not forget those.
Brother, how TF did you not get chills with how much Anduin is reminiscent of Arthas.... I'm terrified that Anduin is going down a dark path. I just hope the players get to interact and save Anduin from Arthas's folly
Speaking as a old school fan of the game I am already in my 30s and I have a full time job and a kid. I no longer the have time to socialize in WoW, join a guild and alter my schedule as per the guild needs so we can do raiding all night. Yes raiding is important part of this game but I believe Blizzard finally understood that their core fanbase is no longer kids and teenagers, we are grown ups with limited time to play the game but we still deserve a way to progress our chars on our own phase. I am so excited that we are finally getting such a feature. I was waiting for another horrific vision-like system since the end of BFA.
How much did blizzard pay you to make this vid
Blizzard is a trash Company now days
What we need is a Everquest 3!
Interesting take.
Dude, seeing this years BlizzCon and knowing that in "Midnight" we might get Quel'Thalas (I hope they don't mess this one up), really makes me wanna go next year :)) and I live in Hungary :)) so it's a pretty long journey... but most probably worth it xD
Can someone explain?
Isn’t mythic plus the same as Delves? I thought you could get best gear in slot with myth+
What’s the difference?
no M+ is not like Delves, you're way off base. Delves are casual content instanced in the open world, no time limits, no toxicity, or any other bullshit.
@@UltimateGamerCC tysm
yw, Delves are gonna be a boon to world players because it's just going to add to exploration as a whole, not to mention something that can be done for the Great Vault, which hasnt been available to soloists.@@ivanov8965
i figured you'd be out in the woods somewhere watching dudes in armor going at it. welcome back and yeah that cinematic is a tad not much happening but looks neat
Agree with opinion on hero talents. The titles were hype but the mechanics need to bring the sauce to actually be impressive
Menu options and a new spell or two is not good enough.
Delves reminds me of warlords of dranor. It's what we thought we were getting with garrisons. All they need to do now is add in some gathering nodes and maybe add in the option to play with differnt characters, not just the Dwarf explorer. Essentially making the mission tables an actual mission you go on with your partner.
I get the delve, op gear concern you have. It makes sense. But as a new player who's only just about to hit max level on my first character, raiding isn't an option. Especially since I don't have good gear. Ii think delves will make it better for players like me to get into raids
I'm not buying it until I hear if it's actually good or not. Saved me a bunch of money in BFA and SL. DF is meh, but a step in the right direction and I did eventually get it when it was on sale.
Think Hero talent while should enhance your class in some way, should really be a more cosmetic thing more then anything. As a class skin, aligned to Warlocks green fire quest. Imagine giving Demo locks an undead skin and you have your necrommancer
Anyone else find that the audio and video didn't quite line up?
I have to disagree about NEEDING to kill the Alliance vs Horde aspect of the game to make Warbands a thing. As far as I remember, both factions could always exchange trade goods through the Booty Bay AH. Warbands just removes the extra steps. And WoW doesn’t really feel like WoW without Alliance vs Horde.
I completely agree! This whole unity bs just kills it. I'm sure all the zoomies like it though so.....
100% agree on hero talents. Cool idea but needs to be more heroic!
Thought it was weird i didnt see any videos by you after the con lol. Also more dwarves is better then more elves... Then hero talents im excited for we saw 2h shaman so im sold. But i am curious what they all do and if we only saw the basics of it. Then agree with the cinimatic definetly felt more like the warbringers ones and not the expansion one
Delves sound like Thorgast in a way, but actually single player is the main component- and it's absolutely marvelous for me. You see, I'm this type of player who LOVES soloing stuff and I'm in wow for the challenge aspect - currently mount farming for last 3 years, because most of my guild left and I'm all alone. And I'm really loving it and find nothing wrong with it
Seeing Nixxom deadlift his PR was my fav part of the video good shit dude!!
I like the expansion on existing abilities with the new expansion hero talents, people already complain about too many buttons. Resto druids are already summoning alot of treants though you should see it in arena 😅
I don't think there's anything to worry about in regards to delves harming the social experience. For one thing, WoW has been becoming more and more singleplayer-friendly for years now (older dungeons becoming solo-able, easier re-speccing to switch off to DPS when your party isn't around to do it for you, activity finders that plunk you into content automatically instead of asking you to interact with other human beings, etc) and it's still a very intensely social game. The faction cities are still stuffed to the gills with people chatting, laughing, RPing, forming guilds, etc. All delves will do to that experience is give more players more options more of the time. And since they aren't instanced (at least AFAIK), it's not like it'll be a truly singleplayer experience anyway!
It's funny. I have always enjoyed your videos, but only recently tried Wow again after putting 3 hours into in 2004. It looks like I picked a good time to give it another try. Great Video
About delves, that's what i call evolution... You have to have meaningful activities to be done solo. Delves won't hurt guilds as long as they are like a personal extra-thing to do solo, no matter what gear they throw. For the casual that gives him the means to stay in game and do things in his own pace... while for hardcores it's just extra gear that may help you progress in the end...
In general solo content works like this... It's not like Arena fanatics dropped team content for solo , even if practically you take the same gear. It's different content.
Similarly, the point of a raid is to beat the boss in your prefer difficulty... challenge yourself and your team against it. Building the character - gear , is the mean to that progress (at least till you are fully equipped and even then you got personal records etc...).
Also , there are many people that as they age they don't have the same time... and the game losses a bunch of them because they can't follow - keep up with the whole gearing process ... Now these people will have something to do and maybe since they won't miss a whole bunch of gear progression they may raid when they have some spare time...
TLDR, no i don't think that Delves will hurt "team based content" , in the end they will help it grow because there will be less disparity in things like gear.
Biggest thing for Hero Talents is to REPLACE, abilities. Not just add to. Monk already has a problem with having way too many abilities that keybinds are bloated. So lets ensure they dont just add a bunch of abilities that are going to make the rotation ridiculous.
Tbh it felt like the cutscene they showed is something like the old warrior cutscenes for saurfang back in bfa so maybe we might get the bombastic trailers we usually get for trailers
I'm the introvert who doesn't care about the social element who is excited for delves, and that's the only feature that has me sold on this upcoming expansion.
it was my impression that the delves are not randomized. they are handmade encounters and they currently have either 11 or 12 planned for now. so no randomness to be had. also, your only getting endgame level gear if you farm out keys from other world content, and it seems theyre gonna be limiting those keys to prevent people from just farming out a full set of gear.
Its just repopulating raid maps with different bullshit. Its 100% made out of recycled content.
I don't mind the idea of the talents being passive...just wish they had more weight to them. Like that keeper, you are right lol, having 12 treants out at once would be gorgeously chaotic. Like the Death Knight's army of dead, but with trees.
I also agree with ya about the cinematic, the others drew hype by being dramatic. And sure, what Anduin went through is dramatic...its not the same. Needed hype drama, not therapy drama.
i think blizzard should add ultimate spells, which can only cast by consuming all your resource bar or some big condition. Would make for some interesting play and somewhat balanced
tbh i only do raids to see what the story is fight is like
the gear was always just something i hated grinding the raids for
I really liked the trailer. Sure it wasn't at the same pacing of previous installments, but it was nice to see that. A more grim, somber and grounded tone. Left a lot of questions too which elicits intrigue.
i do somewhat agree that being named Hero talents gives them a bit of expectation, but my issue with it is, are they permanent? or will they leave us eventually. How will they implement them without making them feel like every other instance of borrowed power we've seen since WoD? Legion, BFA and Shadowlands all had secondary talent systems, and all of them were generally met with disdain by the playerbase. It's possible that blizzard is just playing it safe for the moment because they also know this, but I still worry about the implementation
They litterly said there not adding anything into retail that won’t continue to next expacs so yes hero talents will continue past war within
As a very casual player over the years I'd like more solo content. I think the people that prefer going with others will prefer this over the solo content anyway. So to see they give us more options is very welcome.
Play a single player game then
@@grilledleeks6514 Smartass.
Why playing a mmorpg then? xD
They confirmed that wasn’t the sword lol. The teaser site has a brief description of the zones and it says it’s a crystal of Light that’s been there for centuries.
i dont get how so many people mistake the sword for the crystal when the sword isnt glowing in any way. people really not using their noggins these days.
Completely agree with you on the Hero Talents take.
They should go crazy with it! Give a capstone talent that is a 5 min crazy cooldown you pop once in the fight and feel like a frigging god! Keeper of the Give them the ability you mentioned. A Diablist Warlock? Make him use the frigging Rain of Chaos ability Archimonde did in Warcraft 3 summoning a horde of Infernals and Doomguards to completely demolish people. A Dark Ranger? Give them a cooldown that is a dark arrow infusing all your shots to shoot additional projectiles you can SEE made out of shadow and applying random debuffs or whatever. They should go completely balls to the wall with these.
I would love to have another option to get raid level gear without having to raid. I'm unable to do raids because of the times & the amount of time needed to do it. Arena pvp is also an issue. So an alternative to both is very welcomed by me. P.s I now have a massive crush on Anduin.
12:28, no, that's not his sword - They literally confirmed while talking about the area that it's a light crystal.
Delve specific armor would be a way to get some of the best gear in the he game. Not sure if i like the idea if it's true.
As someone who hasn't really played since Cata, aside from pecking at pandaria and warlords for like 15 hours each, this new trilogy really got my juices going. The cinematic was faaaaaaantastic.
I think it's brilliant to just tell us what they're up to for the foreseeable future, and making it a cohesive stretch of storytelling is pretty much like making a show rather than a movie, and I'm all about shows. All expansion packs so far have been so self contained.. This trilogy will be much less of that.
I hope we can be alliance belfs at some point. I like belfs, do not really like being horde that much. I miss Stormwind and Ironforge..
I think youre misunderstanding what Delves are. Delves are sort of like mythic dungeons for casual players. The gear rewards that you obtain from doing them will not compete with raiding or mythic plus dungeons.
7:00 ... what? you have like scheduled timeslots where you get together with people for a raid. you can do delves in the other 150 hours of the week....
Having played WOW since beta and then stopping at the end of Pandaworld, it's been interesting watching the progress of the game, the expansions, comments, fanboi tears of misery and so on. Nothing has really made me want to come back to the game, but in all honesty this expansion looks pretty buff. What I *would* like to see is Classic WOW (with TBC and WOTLK) made free to play - that would be a huge marketing coup for Blizard, pulling in tons of new players who then go on to retail subscriptions. And if that happened, I would definitely get back into the game. Maybe there's a marketing exec at Blizz who isn't a money-grabbing wotsit and who can see the potential in that, who knows. Anyway, good video, thanks Nixx.
Why would someone who enjoys Classic end up going to the massively gutted retail game? They aren't even remotely similar games at this point so I think you're massively overestimating the crossover between the two.
Will the the War Within be easy on returning players from classic/tbv/wotlk?
Thank you! everyone has been saying the trailer is great, the cinematic is great but it's not a cinematic trailer for the expansion. Look at bfa, they had the saurfang story cinematics ( this was more like this) but the bfa cinematic was different and got you hyped or the WoD trailer.. my god