yes I did the same on both of my xmaxxs and knock on wood no more problems w spur and pinion. if I could send ya a picture I could show you what I used. Happy Thanksgiving!
Great video Earl, What's your take on Outcast 8s vs Xmaxx, I have all arrma rigs, 8s, all the 6s rigs, all M2Cified. So there all tank status. Bit curious on getting an Xmaxx maybe, Drive performance, durability, as easy to wrench on? (I'm curious enough I watched this whole video and I don't even own a traxxas) Don't get me Wrong, love my Arrma's, just always liked the look and Plushness (and durability supposedly?) of the Xmaxx for Monster Truck feel. Appreciate your feedback
The xmaxx is clumsy but strong 💪it takes a little while to work the bugs out of it so you can have a great time the xmaxx really is king 👑 of bashers without spending a ton of money on upgrades to make it not break 💯💯👍👍👍👍👍
I'm having the same exact problem. Traxxas told me that the rear bulkhead was cracked. I replaced it still had the problem. Can't wait for the next video hopefully thats the problem
Omg!, I'm kinda proud of myself. I guessed what was wrong with it. I know guessing isn't the proper way to be doing it, but I'm kinda shocked I got it right. Watching your videos is actually helping me with stuff I know nothing about! Great job as always.
I know this video is old and you have sorted the steering. I had the same issue, after giving it some throttle it started to pull to the right. It's something to do with the gyro. I temp fixed it and ran with multifunction set to zero and it stopped. Later when what fixed it for good was that the radio controller was loose in the box, glue or tape it down worked fixed it so I can run with multifunction set to mid atleast.
Hey Earle, I just ran across a video earlier and someone mention if the pinion is too tight against spur after tightening the motor mount screw, add some spacers or washer on the line up pins to make motor mount get a slight slack on the mesh...also get the HD Traxxas adlustable tie steering rods...like $49 on Amazon somewherez....I'ma add spacers between motor mount and bulkhead pin area and see if it helps....I'll get back with ya on what I do..cheers ol boy
Nvrmnd Earl, it kinda works but takes too many washers to build up n then run the risk of making a hole in plastic with spacers or washers....needs almost 1+mm spacer to get the ticktock sound all the way round.....Traxxas cheaper out on this.....dont have this problem with none of my arrmas....ugh...oh well I tried everyway with what I had.....
Wife's brand new orange Xmaxx has same binding problem on spur to pinion ,she only drives it In training mode..... Cheap ass plastic they make these things out of..my outcast 8s on the other hand....smooth as butter barely any noise
I've had steer servos ruined by not backing them off a bit on each side after unboxing the rc, thats why a Bluetooth is a must with Traxxas Tqi transmitter. Thanks for the heads up with cushdrive problems!
Yes I own a couple of the blue tooth module to set the end points I feel it skipped a tooth inside the servo it’s a couple of years old now I feel it did well with all my bad crashes 💯💯👍👍👍
Yo Earl! Sorry about that servo! Bummer 👎🏻. Mine failed as well, and my buddy’s. I ended up going with traxxas #7749. It’s a 1/10 scale (standard) servo adapter. For servo I went with a savox 1230sg steel geared, digital coreless servo. It’s 500 oz @ 6 volts, and will resist lateral force. You would also need a 25 tooth servo horn. This is of course if your new X servo poops the bed too. The X servo has a brass gear in it, it will die too, (maybe) good luck! Thanks for your time in the vids! 👍🏻 and keep em coming.
Yes I’ve seen the smaller servo adapters but I got this X servo two years ago figured I’d need it soon knowing traxxas servos but it lasted me awhile for a stock servo it did well I hope the X does as good
Same thing happened to me. You need to replace the motor bearings too. Shortly after I rebuilt mine the motor bearings failed and the rotor damaged everything inside. Check the rubber Cush drive piece too. They sell a Cush drive housing that take up some slop same part # with an X at the end.
I have a video showing me checking my motor bearing this one is ok the new one that I never ran has tons of play on the motor bearing area so I won’t run it till traxxas send a new motor 💯💯👍👍👍
hey earl. in one of my xmaxxs I had an issue with the motor temp wire got cut between the motor and heat sink/cooling fan and truck would only run at half throttle. So I had an xtra receiver for my Dx5c Spectrum remote so I swaped all that out. No more motor temp wire to worry about an no more glitching from servo. Get n rid of all traxxas electronics is a hugh help in these xmaxxs. Have fun and good luck
Hey, just set the mesh without the pins, last time i did the 18/46 gearing on mine, the mesh was too loose with the pins. Without the pins i had to trim some plastik to get the mesh right. And i think your servo is fine, if TSM is not at 0, it will do that stuff like your did 😉 Greetings from Germany
Thanks 🙏 the tsm was at zero and was glitching that why I was looking at the remote so much wondering why I was trying to adjust 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️good info on the pins I know Ive seen a few ppl get rid of the pins but I’m tight on one side and loose on the other side of the spur 👍👍💯💯
EARL,,,,does the motor shaft has a side to side play,,,,I had to get new bearings for mine. And the used matching Robinson racing gears,,,,so far so good,,,,it’s been 6 months...I also installed a glitch buster in the receiver...In order to get to the servo you have to separate the front module,,easy job,,🇺🇸👈
I don't use that pin system. I set my mesh manually and I use those aluminum washers in front of the bolts for the motor that Traxxas sells so that I don't go though the plastic chassis. From what I understand, the pin system doesn't work well with aftermarket gears. I personally would run 20/50t gearing with the stock motor anyways. Better mesh and less heat than 18/46T TBH.
Earl, does your spur gear slide a tad back and forth? I rebuilt the cush drive, rubber, pin, and plastic cush case. Even though it has the plastic washer with notches to hold down the pin, it seems to still have a little back and forth movement about 1/16 of an inch. Does yours do that and if it did, how did you fix it. I didn't see yours move at all. And I use Hot Racing spur and Tekno pinion. Even the tekno broke a tooth which is not normal do to the quality of the material. Anything you did to make the cush secure so that it doesnt move? Was told by the local hobby shop that it was normal for it to move slightly but if it got worse it would case problems. Saw a video where someone pot an o-ring on top of the washer that holds pin down to stop the movement.
Yes the spool moves around not the gear itself as they have spacer on the aftermarket spools to stop that and the factory v1 spools have red spacers so the spur gear stays in place but the whole assembly will move back in forth in the motor mount assembly 👍👍
@@earlmoorhead5555 I bought the 8s new last year and when I rebuilt the cush with new casing, rubber, pin and pin holder, there were no spacers in it. Are there suppose to be? And if so where do they go. Tya
Bro the hands not working and nothing goes easy days- you are singing my song !! Winter is going to be alittle harder this 50th year. The x maxx is a notorious gear shredder, I have been looking into a belt drive setup for mine. Have you seen any of the belt systems for the x maxx. Hope the Moorhead Fam has a great thanksgiving
Hello Earl. I’ve got a question that I’m hoping you’ve seen before. I bought a new xmaxx and on the second battery pack the pinion gear backed off. When sliding the pinion back on I noticed the mesh was super tight with the spur. I haven’t had time to pull the motor and check the factory pin placement yet, as i had to leave for work. (Truck Driver) just curious have you seen this before,and where I should start if not motor pins? Thanks in advance if you have the time to help.
Is it the stock spur and pinion installed ? And I know they run tight with the pins on the motor the pinion needs red lock tight to stay on and definitely keep your eye on motor temps that’s normally why the pinion get loose it runs hot 👍👍
@@earlmoorhead5555 yes stock. It was so tight I had trouble getting the pinion back in mesh with the spur. That really concerned me. I’m just getting into the hobby and feel better about it now! Thanks for the help and looking forward to more of your vids!
I'm having issues with the stock gearing just bought a xmaxx and haven't even run it yet because with the pins in I for the stock gearing 18p 54s it's so tight a piece of notebook paper will bind it up did you have any issues with yours and if so what was your fix??
Hey man those gears you're not supposed to use the pin system I just went through that with mine oh and have fun setting the mesh without the pin system
My Cushdrive got damaged when my factory spur shattered and it messed up the plastic mount for the spur I knew it was damaged but the new gear mounted up good I didn’t notice the massive wobble in it tho 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤔🤔🤔
@@earlmoorhead5555 yea first time stock plastic spur using self righting with e revo tires second time with all steel traxxas gears and dboot backflips 4s i first thought it to be the tires but now i wonder
What a piece of junk that cush drive system is traxxas has a lot of nerve installing all of the junk parts they install on all there vehicles Xmaxx? The servo? Junk plastic gears? Really? Motor junk esc junk. Tires junk. I can go on. This is why l buy a chassis and build my own trucks. Learned a long time ago not to buy an rtr vehicle from traxxas or arma. I build my own instead of buying an rtr and replacing all the junk parts it comes with.
I’ve had good luck with there motor and tires as long as there not over a year old and I reglued them but I feel whatcha are saying I think all rtr are like this in my experience 👍👍⚠️⚠️
Yep waste of money to buy an rtr. For me it is l am a hardcore basher if i am not doing 20 foot jumps i am not having fun. Screw gluing tires. Prolline beadlocks. Crappy spongy stock tires that fill with dirt? No thanks.
Hi man love your vids.. I put a rubber o wring on cush drive it takes out all the slop and never had a problem after!
Really that good to know thanks 🙏
yes I did the same on both of my xmaxxs and knock on wood no more problems w spur and pinion. if I could send ya a picture I could show you what I used. Happy Thanksgiving!
Great video Earl,
What's your take on Outcast 8s vs Xmaxx, I have all arrma rigs, 8s, all the 6s rigs, all M2Cified. So there all tank status. Bit curious on getting an Xmaxx maybe,
Drive performance, durability, as easy to wrench on? (I'm curious enough I watched this whole video and I don't even own a traxxas)
Don't get me Wrong, love my Arrma's, just always liked the look and Plushness (and durability supposedly?) of the Xmaxx for Monster Truck feel.
Appreciate your feedback
The xmaxx is clumsy but strong 💪it takes a little while to work the bugs out of it so you can have a great time the xmaxx really is king 👑 of bashers without spending a ton of money on upgrades to make it not break 💯💯👍👍👍👍👍
They have a kush drive housing that has a extra plastic piece to take out the slop too. I forget the part# but it’s the the one with an X at the end.
I'm having the same exact problem. Traxxas told me that the rear bulkhead was cracked. I replaced it still had the problem. Can't wait for the next video hopefully thats the problem
Mine definitely not cracked in the rear but my Cushdrive shaft is still a little bent I just don’t think it will matter the little wobble it has 💯💯👍👍👍
Omg!, I'm kinda proud of myself. I guessed what was wrong with it. I know guessing isn't the proper way to be doing it, but I'm kinda shocked I got it right. Watching your videos is actually helping me with stuff I know nothing about! Great job as always.
Nice 👍 sometimes guessing will work but it also shows where to look for an issue 💯💯👍👍👍
I know this video is old and you have sorted the steering. I had the same issue, after giving it some throttle it started to pull to the right. It's something to do with the gyro. I temp fixed it and ran with multifunction set to zero and it stopped. Later when what fixed it for good was that the radio controller was loose in the box, glue or tape it down worked fixed it so I can run with multifunction set to mid atleast.
Hey Earle, I just ran across a video earlier and someone mention if the pinion is too tight against spur after tightening the motor mount screw, add some spacers or washer on the line up pins to make motor mount get a slight slack on the mesh...also get the HD Traxxas adlustable tie steering rods...like $49 on Amazon somewherez....I'ma add spacers between motor mount and bulkhead pin area and see if it helps....I'll get back with ya on what I do..cheers ol boy
Nvrmnd Earl, it kinda works but takes too many washers to build up n then run the risk of making a hole in plastic with spacers or washers....needs almost 1+mm spacer to get the ticktock sound all the way round.....Traxxas cheaper out on this.....dont have this problem with none of my arrmas....ugh...oh well I tried everyway with what I had.....
Wife's brand new orange Xmaxx has same binding problem on spur to pinion ,she only drives it In training mode..... Cheap ass plastic they make these things out of..my outcast 8s on the other hand....smooth as butter barely any noise
I've had steer servos ruined by not backing them off a bit on each side after unboxing the rc, thats why a Bluetooth is a must with Traxxas Tqi transmitter. Thanks for the heads up with cushdrive problems!
Yes I own a couple of the blue tooth module to set the end points I feel it skipped a tooth inside the servo it’s a couple of years old now I feel it did well with all my bad crashes 💯💯👍👍👍
LOL you buy accessories for traxxas electronics and you're just a sucker
@@lindsayk41 I didn't buy it ,it was a free accessory that came with a used Maxx i bought off e-bay. Works great!!
Nice 👍
Yo Earl! Sorry about that servo! Bummer 👎🏻. Mine failed as well, and my buddy’s. I ended up going with traxxas #7749. It’s a 1/10 scale (standard) servo adapter. For servo I went with a savox 1230sg steel geared, digital coreless servo. It’s 500 oz @ 6 volts, and will resist lateral force. You would also need a 25 tooth servo horn. This is of course if your new X servo poops the bed too. The X servo has a brass gear in it, it will die too, (maybe) good luck! Thanks for your time in the vids! 👍🏻 and keep em coming.
Yes I’ve seen the smaller servo adapters but I got this X servo two years ago figured I’d need it soon knowing traxxas servos but it lasted me awhile for a stock servo it did well I hope the X does as good
Same thing happened to me. You need to replace the motor bearings too. Shortly after I rebuilt mine the motor bearings failed and the rotor damaged everything inside. Check the rubber Cush drive piece too. They sell a Cush drive housing that take up some slop same part # with an X at the end.
I have a video showing me checking my motor bearing this one is ok the new one that I never ran has tons of play on the motor bearing area so I won’t run it till traxxas send a new motor 💯💯👍👍👍
I had the same problem,check if one of the bearings on the cush drive shaft is wore
Both my bearings are good that is one thing I do check often but good information 🙏🙏
hey earl. in one of my xmaxxs I had an issue with the motor temp wire got cut between the motor and heat sink/cooling fan and truck would only run at half throttle. So I had an xtra receiver for my Dx5c Spectrum remote so I swaped all that out. No more motor temp wire to worry about an no more glitching from servo. Get n rid of all traxxas electronics is a hugh help in these xmaxxs. Have fun and good luck
I have a max 6 esc in there temp wire is not used now 👍👍👍
Hey, just set the mesh without the pins, last time i did the 18/46 gearing on mine, the mesh was too loose with the pins. Without the pins i had to trim some plastik to get the mesh right.
And i think your servo is fine, if TSM is not at 0, it will do that stuff like your did 😉
Greetings from Germany
Thanks 🙏 the tsm was at zero and was glitching that why I was looking at the remote so much wondering why I was trying to adjust 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️good info on the pins I know Ive seen a few ppl get rid of the pins but I’m tight on one side and loose on the other side of the spur 👍👍💯💯
Yup take out the pins
EARL,,,,does the motor shaft has a side to side play,,,,I had to get new bearings for mine. And the used matching Robinson racing gears,,,,so far so good,,,,it’s been 6 months...I also installed a glitch buster in the receiver...In order to get to the servo you have to separate the front module,,easy job,,🇺🇸👈
Not this xmaxx my new xmaxx does as we found out on Rc guy garage channel 👍👍💯💯💯
Looks like parts and more parts. That is a nice beefy spur gear
Thanks 🙏 it really is a good spur gear ⚙️💯💯
Earl Moorhead I'm having alot of problems keeping my pinion on no matter what I've done. Any suggestions? Thanks I like this video.
Check motor temperature if it’s getting to hot it will melt the lock tight everytime
I used a dremel to make a divot on the motor shaft for the set screw to sit in. And red lock tight.
The Traxxas x-maxx pin system is bunk. Try the pins at 17/50 for tighter mesh.
Thanks 🙏
Did you see the spur gear wobble ?
I don't use that pin system. I set my mesh manually and I use those aluminum washers in front of the bolts for the motor that Traxxas sells so that I don't go though the plastic chassis. From what I understand, the pin system doesn't work well with aftermarket gears. I personally would run 20/50t gearing with the stock motor anyways. Better mesh and less heat than 18/46T TBH.
Thanks good to know 💯💯👍👍👍
Earl, does your spur gear slide a tad back and forth? I rebuilt the cush drive, rubber, pin, and plastic cush case. Even though it has the plastic washer with notches to hold down the pin, it seems to still have a little back and forth movement about 1/16 of an inch. Does yours do that and if it did, how did you fix it. I didn't see yours move at all. And I use Hot Racing spur and Tekno pinion. Even the tekno broke a tooth which is not normal do to the quality of the material. Anything you did to make the cush secure so that it doesnt move? Was told by the local hobby shop that it was normal for it to move slightly but if it got worse it would case problems. Saw a video where someone pot an o-ring on top of the washer that holds pin down to stop the movement.
Yes the spool moves around not the gear itself as they have spacer on the aftermarket spools to stop that and the factory v1 spools have red spacers so the spur gear stays in place but the whole assembly will move back in forth in the motor mount assembly 👍👍
@@earlmoorhead5555 tyvm
@@earlmoorhead5555 I bought the 8s new last year and when I rebuilt the cush with new casing, rubber, pin and pin holder, there were no spacers in it. Are there suppose to be? And if so where do they go. Tya
cool video and great information
Thanks 🙏
Hey! Pro tip, don’t remove the motor or anything. All you need to do is remove the cover on the gears and losses the set screw. Takes 10 minutes :)
Unless you are physically using a different tooth pinion etc.
Bro the hands not working and nothing goes easy days- you are singing my song !! Winter is going to be alittle harder this 50th year. The x maxx is a notorious gear shredder, I have been looking into a belt drive setup for mine. Have you seen any of the belt systems for the x maxx. Hope the Moorhead Fam has a great thanksgiving
Yes I have seen a few belt drive system I know tru boyz ran one and had a bunch of issues so I never ordered one 💯💯👍👍👍
i would suggest putting a rubber oring inside cush drive and see how it does
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My xmaxx steering was doing that and after I updated firmware it stopped doing that tsm turned up to high also does that
Yes my tsm was at zero and then I turned it up a quarter turn to see if it would stop clithing but it didn’t 🙏🙏👍👍👍
@@earlmoorhead5555 than probably the servo !lol 👍have you updated the rx and esc lately?
No I
Didn’t know about the update but now I’ll check on that 👍👍👍
Hey I wondering where you got that body my xMaxx is super upgraded and I have spent almost 400 dollars on new body’s from bad landings
eBay about a year ago is where I found this body 👍👍
Rcmaniacs on ebay. Comes on slow boat from russia though so 2ish months shipping time
Yes but sometimes you find a local dealer having them in stock like I did with my xlx brace 👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@earlmoorhead5555 haha I was not that lucky. Ordered mine back in late October and here I am missing the back half of my body waiting impatiently.
Dang that’s crazy 🤪🤪🤔🤔
Hello Earl. I’ve got a question that I’m hoping you’ve seen before. I bought a new xmaxx and on the second battery pack the pinion gear backed off. When sliding the pinion back on I noticed the mesh was super tight with the spur. I haven’t had time to pull the motor and check the factory pin placement yet, as i had to leave for work. (Truck Driver) just curious have you seen this before,and where I should start if not motor pins? Thanks in advance if you have the time to help.
Is it the stock spur and pinion installed ? And I know they run tight with the pins on the motor the pinion needs red lock tight to stay on and definitely keep your eye on motor temps that’s normally why the pinion get loose it runs hot 👍👍
@@earlmoorhead5555 yes stock. It was so tight I had trouble getting the pinion back in mesh with the spur. That really concerned me. I’m just getting into the hobby and feel better about it now! Thanks for the help and looking forward to more of your vids!
@@earlmoorhead5555 red lock tight did it!!! Thanks for the help!
My problem was spur gear shaft bearings were bad after replacing them my problem was solved
Def bad servo as well!!
Mine did same when took tumble
Yes I agree something wrong with it 💯💯💯
I'm having issues with the stock gearing just bought a xmaxx and haven't even run it yet because with the pins in I for the stock gearing 18p 54s it's so tight a piece of notebook paper will bind it up did you have any issues with yours and if so what was your fix??
I had an issue on my orange xmaxx the motor had to much slop in it I updated the gears and I’m waiting on it to break 👍👍👍
Had a xmaxx for 2 years now and never knew the battery wires run under the clip lmao 🤣 learn something new everyday i guess
👍👍🔥🔥🔥
That's moving because it doesn't have that cover on it that covers for the hold that down
Turns out motor bearings failed as I show the sloop in the motor shaft 👍⚠️⚠️
Ok
for me the rear diff gear was missing 2 teeth and that thing would keep on shredding gears in seconds
Hey man those gears you're not supposed to use the pin system I just went through that with mine oh and have fun setting the mesh without the pin system
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@@earlmoorhead5555 what happens is is without the proper gear mesh it rides up on it and clips the top of the gear then screws up your cush Drive
My Cushdrive got damaged when my factory spur shattered and it messed up the plastic mount for the spur I knew it was damaged but the new gear mounted up good I didn’t notice the massive wobble in it tho 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤔🤔🤔
its bent from moving back an forth or front to back. rubber oring in cush
I don’t have forward to back play tho 🤔🤔🤔
Brother earl what’s up champ
Hey 💪👋👋
awesome
Thanks 🙏
been having the same issues with my lil maxx if it strips again ill know the fix lol
Right you did strip one already on the little maxx ?? Damn 🤪🤪
@@earlmoorhead5555 yea first time stock plastic spur using self righting with e revo tires second time with all steel traxxas gears and dboot backflips 4s i first thought it to be the tires but now i wonder
Wow 😳
Hey did you notice there’s no thumbs down yet your thumbs down people are sleeping! Lol
Right they might be working at McDonald’s still 🤪🤪🤪🔥🔥
That thing looks like a dumpster 🔥 compared to your Arrmas 🤣💪😉
Tsm is doing that “glitch” your aftermarket gears don’t play nice with traxxas pins
Nice trouble shooting
Thanks 🙏
Switch to wfo gears .you will never strip a gear again.
Turned out motor bearings failed & I already use DGI gears that seem good 👍👍
What a piece of junk that cush drive system is traxxas has a lot of nerve installing all of the junk parts they install on all there vehicles Xmaxx? The servo? Junk plastic gears? Really? Motor junk esc junk. Tires junk. I can go on. This is why l buy a chassis and build my own trucks. Learned a long time ago not to buy an rtr vehicle from traxxas or arma. I build my own instead of buying an rtr and replacing all the junk parts it comes with.
I’ve had good luck with there motor and tires as long as there not over a year old and I reglued them but I feel whatcha are saying I think all rtr are like this in my experience 👍👍⚠️⚠️
Yep waste of money to buy an rtr. For me it is l am a hardcore basher if i am not doing 20 foot jumps i am not having fun. Screw gluing tires. Prolline beadlocks. Crappy spongy stock tires that fill with dirt? No thanks.
Stock Xmaxx motor and esc is junk. Get a hobbywing or a castle