Yea the reason you don't wanna do that against a slashing type weapon like that or a halberd, is because you cannot deflect a strike. Remember, it's not a sword, you aren't out spacing your opponent. The Naginata is too heavy for a regular deflect.
@@HonorableAssassins yea he's saying that he wouldn't partake in a competition where he couldn't. Against a weapon like that, you don't want to. It's meant for slashing and it's gonna bring a hell of a lot of force behind it. In plus it's a polearm so you gotta overcome that length when you thrust.
@Aaron Savage to an ant, my flick is like being punched by a god. I'm aware of the damage it can do to a human. I think it is funny to equivocate that to a bonk, in comparison to other more devastating blows.
"Ok, everyone knows the rules, no stabbing, alright ? Your opponent will be fighting with a Naginata." *Picks up THE MOTHERF***ING SPEAR* Dude. At war, whenever you want. At sports : why on Earth ?
The Naginata's swept-up tip can be used to attack the insides of the armpits, the thighs, and the groin. You can just imagine the amount of bleeding that can cause in real life combat. If sparring rules don't allow for this, it is not the Naginata's fault. The rules then determine which weapon gives you the most advantage in this controlled sparring environment.
All three of those locations are protected by a layer of chainmail and padded gambeson, it would be a lot more difficult to land an effective cut than you'd think.
I like both spears and Naginata's. I believe the Naginata is both easier to use/attack and hit with. It's litteraly a staff with a sword attached. The spear requires more precision to score a hit.
Spear is more effective one handed compared to a Naginata though, as you don’t need to handicap yourself if you want to have a shield. Two handed spears could also get pretty long, he’s definitely got a shorter one.
At first I was like “imagine people on the battlefield standing around this long 🤣” but then I looked at the armor they were wearing,,, and maybe it’s closer to the past than I thought.
Is a spear a good dueling weapon? To me, a spear seems much more effective issued to an army, not used in a 1v1 duel. I think a better matchup for the naginata would be a polearm since they both seem to have a more similar use case ( both are largely striking weapons, while a spear is largely a thrusting weapon), but please correct me if I'm wrong.
It's an excellent weapon, as stabbing weapons are in general. It isn't good at point blank range, but that can be easily mitigated by keeping your distance and delivering mid-run stabs. The advantages of its range are far greater than the disadvantages. Its main disadvantage is that it isn't a good "just in case" weapon. You can't carry it on your waist as a spare, or easily take it with you while traveling.
I wonder how real old wars were cuz we know armor wont be cut through with weapons so easily you gotta put alot of force into it but the first one to strike loses the time to wind up a heavy attack
I always thought spears were more . . . Stabby stabby - plus the length of the spear is its defense. Though I could tell the knight was more used to using a longsword.
People don't realize spearing with a spear is a lot harder than it seems. You either extend your spear and losing your grip balance or you get closer to stab. And stabbing accuracy really need lots of training cuz a single sweep off your spear when you stab, you lose a lot of balance.
@the amorphous flatsch I don't think it's the same as boxing or mma, there aren't any rounds in a life or death battle they might not want to give their enemy any time to breath
Dificil para el caballero, ya que su lanza es para apuñalar y la del Samurai es más para cortar a distancia. Las reglas impiden que el caballero use la lanza como corresponde xd La armadura Samurai tiene muchos puntos débiles para apuñalar, mientras que la armadura del caballero es más completa y por la punta ancha de la Naginata, le sería dificil dar en algún punto vital, si es que tiene posibilidad.
Is it bad that my impulse in this situation is to at some point charge into them like a barbarian would and body check to stagger them and go for a fatal blow? I understand realistically I’m sure it could get you killed doing that but it’s just an intrusive thought😂
Perhaps this is the strangest manner of using a spear that I have seen. Perhaps this is HMB and it is forbidden to stab, but then why use a spear at all?
The armour is probably decently heavy, but it’s also distributed over your entire body so you don’t notice as much. As for the weapons- probably not that heavy given that they’re pretty short, maybe 3-4 lbs?
Someone thats somewhat knowledgeable on the matter, please correct me if I’m wrong but seeing as both are heavily armored, can’t the one knight just trap the slashy spear *yes that’s the technical term your just not reading the right manuals duh* and then just stab him with the staby spear
Why not put a tennis ball at the end of these things or something? Just so you can do the stabby stab. Why spar with weapons that are literally known for stabbing if you're just gonna waste it?
Brother, games have shit in your brain that swords are heavy, the average longsword weighed maybe a kilo maybe more, if you cant wield a kilo of equipment comfortably then maybe but I bet you can swing that sword as good as any of them with practice
That’s not how you use Naginata. It shouldn’t be so close to one’s body. It’s a Katana with longer handle he should extend his arms and create distance between enemy and make swift cuts during enemy opening.
i assume there are some strikt rules, cause i cant imagine weilding a spear and not stabbing with it.
I think stabs aren't allowed in buhurt
And that's the whole point of spears you poke with them
It's simple really
Stabbing can kill
This is a sport where you're training
@@badfoody Training what? You can only fight they way you train. If he uses spear like that he can't use spear.
Obviously he can’t stab with it, this is a sport, not a medieval tournament
I would never partake in something with a spear that says I can't use it as intended.
Yea the reason you don't wanna do that against a slashing type weapon like that or a halberd, is because you cannot deflect a strike. Remember, it's not a sword, you aren't out spacing your opponent. The Naginata is too heavy for a regular deflect.
Stabbing might puncture the armor..
They do that so they don’t fucking kill each other
@@carminescursethats not true at all.
Buhurt as a sport does not allow thrusts. Period.
@@HonorableAssassins yea he's saying that he wouldn't partake in a competition where he couldn't. Against a weapon like that, you don't want to. It's meant for slashing and it's gonna bring a hell of a lot of force behind it. In plus it's a polearm so you gotta overcome that length when you thrust.
The naginata is a spear designed for stabbing and slashing, moreso slashing as it's literally a swordspear.
Isnt the "samurai spear" called a Yari? A naginata is, like you said, more like a swordspear
Naginata is not a spear, it’s more like a glaive, a pole sword. Yari is the Japanese spear.
ye but.... They do not train as how real samurais trained. He even stands different, and fights different,
@@armintor2826 The term you're looking for would be a glaive.
Ngl I was sure it originated as a farmers tool.
Yea both should've used polearm, if no stabbing is a rule then using a spear is pretty.. pointless.
Ba-dum tsss
@@generaljim3283 i think no pun was intended...........
Ba-dum tssss
I see your point.
I'll be leaving now.
Well, a spear usually has a point.
I know terrible dad joke but I couldn't help it and I did it at about 3 in the morning
@@sylvershelley8595 not using a spear as a spear is . . . Pointless
Pointless
PPPPOOOOIIIIINNNNTTTTLLLEEESSSS
that last lil bonk on the helmet, and the sad walk away. perfect.
That “lil bonk” would have lacerated your face and probably blinded you in one eye. That’s a cut that’ll bleed you out
@Aaron Savage to an ant, my flick is like being punched by a god.
I'm aware of the damage it can do to a human. I think it is funny to equivocate that to a bonk, in comparison to other more devastating blows.
"Ok, everyone knows the rules, no stabbing, alright ? Your opponent will be fighting with a Naginata."
*Picks up THE MOTHERF***ING SPEAR*
Dude. At war, whenever you want. At sports : why on Earth ?
bruh they should've just replaced the metal tip with a blunt but equally heavy wooden one, that way they can actually use them as spears
Bro forgot spears are pointy
Cant stab with steel weapons in duels like this
He also forgot that it's a swordspear. Slashes are optimal and both are decently armored, sooo
Bro forgot its not a real duel and theyre just sparring
@@zerumsiru5204 The idea isnt to kill the person just sparring
@@medievalarmorexptert6827duh it’s full contact armor and it’s not against the rules to slash. Plus don’t they do it in sword sparring
The Naginata's swept-up tip can be used to attack the insides of the armpits, the thighs, and the groin. You can just imagine the amount of bleeding that can cause in real life combat.
If sparring rules don't allow for this, it is not the Naginata's fault. The rules then determine which weapon gives you the most advantage in this controlled sparring environment.
All three of those locations are protected by a layer of chainmail and padded gambeson, it would be a lot more difficult to land an effective cut than you'd think.
I like both spears and Naginata's.
I believe the Naginata is both easier to use/attack and hit with. It's litteraly a staff with a sword attached. The spear requires more precision to score a hit.
Spear is more effective one handed compared to a Naginata though, as you don’t need to handicap yourself if you want to have a shield. Two handed spears could also get pretty long, he’s definitely got a shorter one.
Why are they comparing a polearm to a spear? Japan also had spears.
Yari.
I gues their just having fun. This fight doesnt nearly qualify as scientific so its just a little fun
I can already see how fast real life fights with these would last
Bro has a stabbing weapon.. proceeds to never stab
skillful both fighters💪
WHATS THE POINT OF A SPEAR IF YOU WONT STAB!
Not to mention weapons with longer reach (Naginata, spear) that are short as hell and have the same reach as sword. What is the point?
At first I was like “imagine people on the battlefield standing around this long 🤣” but then I looked at the armor they were wearing,,, and maybe it’s closer to the past than I thought.
That man with the spear forgot that he can stab.
Для нас ждёт фехтование луками и армреслинг на цестусах
Is a spear a good dueling weapon? To me, a spear seems much more effective issued to an army, not used in a 1v1 duel.
I think a better matchup for the naginata would be a polearm since they both seem to have a more similar use case ( both are largely striking weapons, while a spear is largely a thrusting weapon), but please correct me if I'm wrong.
Not only is the spear a great dueling weapon, but most definitely classifies as the *classic* polearm as it is on a *pole*.
As long as the guy isn't half a meter away, he's a relentless weapon.
@@valtenLbOz1495 Ohh I see, I think I mixed up polearms and poleaxes, my bad
It's an excellent weapon, as stabbing weapons are in general. It isn't good at point blank range, but that can be easily mitigated by keeping your distance and delivering mid-run stabs. The advantages of its range are far greater than the disadvantages.
Its main disadvantage is that it isn't a good "just in case" weapon. You can't carry it on your waist as a spare, or easily take it with you while traveling.
The Glaive is the western equivalent of the naginata.
I wonder how real old wars were cuz we know armor wont be cut through with weapons so easily you gotta put alot of force into it but the first one to strike loses the time to wind up a heavy attack
It's always fun to watch these
Awesome
i see he skipped spear lesdons
That armor would cost a fortune even for a noble armor of that quality depending on the time was rare
You know the one saying that has been around since the don of humankind? "Use the pointy end"
Man that spear slash to the face was dauuuum boy!!! XD
Suprised the hell out of me, my sparring partner threaded a fucking needle for sure!
Both sets of armor look very cool
Why is the spearman trying to use his spear like an axe?
I always thought spears were more . . . Stabby stabby - plus the length of the spear is its defense.
Though I could tell the knight was more used to using a longsword.
Should a Spear not be more like stabby-stabby ?
That's looks more like a partisan than a spear in terms of length and thickness.
Bro really got bonked
People don't realize spearing with a spear is a lot harder than it seems. You either extend your spear and losing your grip balance or you get closer to stab. And stabbing accuracy really need lots of training cuz a single sweep off your spear when you stab, you lose a lot of balance.
Imagine doing that all day. Must be comfortable. 😂
You expect me to believe that's how during they fight in the days.
how else are they supposed to fight?
@@theamorphousflatsch2699 they aren't being aggressive enough
you want them to kill each other? its just a sport
@@Nocturne33 no, fighting aggressively doesn't mean you fight well, when you're in battle you need to conserve your energy as well as possible.
@the amorphous flatsch I don't think it's the same as boxing or mma, there aren't any rounds in a life or death battle they might not want to give their enemy any time to breath
Its all fun and games until the guy sitting at the side gets run through.
En un combate real puedes usar la empuñadura para desequilibribar 😅
Cool cool
I feel like if there wasnt rules, the knight could have easily just tucked into a football charge and stabbed the enemy
That's a surprisingly short Naginata
A lot of you guys really miss the point of this sport, along with how war and battle worked back then, holy shit.😅😂
My favourite weapon is a taiaha
Historically he would use a partisan if he fought like dat
You gotta inflict bleed…
Why not use something like a bardiche or a halberd since you can't thrust in buhurt anyway?
Мне кажется тут подошли удары из shafow fight 2 :)
U kinda remind me shadow fight 2
Bring back the arena we need blood!!
This guys are in the highway to get in the hospital...
Shoulda used a bo staff with leather point to allow stabs
Maybe this can be a new competition in thr world.
The problem is that he's using a piercing weapon as a slashing weapon, you're not going to get very far like that.
Looks like a tie to me.
The samurai guy survived because the naginata gives plus 1 def and res
Next have them use a Super Nintendo vs Sega Genesis control pad...seriously
What gloves do you wear? Sand clocks?
I oscillate between grettirs and a custom pair I made from myself
Dificil para el caballero, ya que su lanza es para apuñalar y la del Samurai es más para cortar a distancia. Las reglas impiden que el caballero use la lanza como corresponde xd
La armadura Samurai tiene muchos puntos débiles para apuñalar, mientras que la armadura del caballero es más completa y por la punta ancha de la Naginata, le sería dificil dar en algún punto vital, si es que tiene posibilidad.
Halberd game play would be epic. BRING THE LAW
Why did the spear guy not get a glaive lol
The advantage of the spear is it reached stabbing potential which of course they wouldn't allow them to do. Not a fair comparison.
Samurai 😎😎
Is it bad that my impulse in this situation is to at some point charge into them like a barbarian would and body check to stagger them and go for a fatal blow?
I understand realistically I’m sure it could get you killed doing that but it’s just an intrusive thought😂
This is the sport I want to be apart of. If anyone has any information on what this style of fighting (armored full contact) please let me know
i kinda want to do this
its always the same the knight wins at the start and samurai adapts
I'm really tired of seeing HEMA guys or Buhurt Guys dressed in Yoroi and misusing Japanese weapons terribly
Lowkey dream about this but I’d prolly let my intrusive thoughts win and get my ass kicked
Hyper armor is what they need
Perhaps this is the strangest manner of using a spear that I have seen. Perhaps this is HMB and it is forbidden to stab, but then why use a spear at all?
Yari vs spear. Which makes it spear vs spear.
Lawbringer vs Nobuschi
Lawbringer vs nobushi
Whats the point of a spear if thrusting is against the rules? Wouldnt a poleaxe do better knowing that?
That fake spear would still go through that armor it's why he's using it as a sword
Where is the leg armor on the samurai?
Should've just picked a staff or something
Tin samurai never use koryu budo techniques always do and use brute forces
i wonder if the spear start to stab and the naginata user swing really hard
If the spear isn't allowed to stab, then it's just a nerfed naginata isn't it?
So would fully armoured fights be this drawn out back in the days?
Or is it mostly that these are blunt weapons?
Fully armored fights would most likely happen with different weapons and not duels and be a bit more energised because Adrenalin
@Little Lord TaM yeah I get that. I guess my question is just - does armor fully nullify strikes from an actual sharpened combat weapon?
How heavy are the armour and weapons?
Pretty heavy
The armour is probably decently heavy, but it’s also distributed over your entire body so you don’t notice as much. As for the weapons- probably not that heavy given that they’re pretty short, maybe 3-4 lbs?
weird ur allowed to use the spear but cant fracking stab with it!?
For honor literally
Even though I wouldn't suggest it, if he could have performed a straight lunge spear would have won this specific battle
That's not how you use a spear.
aren't spears meant for thrusting?
Someone thats somewhat knowledgeable on the matter, please correct me if I’m wrong but seeing as both are heavily armored, can’t the one knight just trap the slashy spear *yes that’s the technical term your just not reading the right manuals duh* and then just stab him with the staby spear
"My whole life was a lie "
Why not put a tennis ball at the end of these things or something? Just so you can do the stabby stab. Why spar with weapons that are literally known for stabbing if you're just gonna waste it?
Angina ya has great design even if cut in half it could still be used as a sword
可惜老外不懂刺槍術.一擊必殺
Well, this is hardly a representation of what was going on back then. But still cool.
Ich würde am liebsten bei so etwas ein Langschwert nutzen, bin leider zu schwach dafür glaube ich
Friend in the Middle Ages there were soldiers of 1.40 meters and malnourished. You are definitely very capable of using whatever you set your mind to.
Brother, games have shit in your brain that swords are heavy, the average longsword weighed maybe a kilo maybe more, if you cant wield a kilo of equipment comfortably then maybe but I bet you can swing that sword as good as any of them with practice
No idea why the spear user is not utilizing his reach
wow
Wouldn't you cook fighting in armor under the sun? Battles had to of been best when fought at dawn 👀
Naginata vs glaive would be better
Yari vs spear
That’s not how you use Naginata. It shouldn’t be so close to one’s body. It’s a Katana with longer handle he should extend his arms and create distance between enemy and make swift cuts during enemy opening.
Racists: NO LONGSWORD SUPERIORRRRR
Weebs: NOOOOO KATANAAAAA
Actual Knights and Samurai: hehe sharp thing on stick goes brrrrr
Why are they hitting each other's armor