... and playing. Thats missing here, whereas when Tim is on Norman's Rare Guitars, they talk and he plays either himself or with others. That's all thats missing here, and maybe a little about their chosen guitar (in the session) and why - not geeky but a a minute or two - it helps and guitarists are generally interested in what pickups, amp etc are used to get the tone.
For real. Tim, talking about being in awe, sort of, around Bob Dylan but not hesitating to say well yeah! And zero hesitation confirming the no mistakes cause we are all pros. It's appropriate. When you're the best, it's rather important to be confident that you're the best. Just imagine if Tim Pierce never got interested in RUclips. All his amazing knowledge and experiences, all the easy confidence no matter what he is doing, all this amazing and interesting storytelling. It wouldn't be unknown, but it's for sure that millions of people would never benefit from it. It's a whole master class on how to be an s tier pro musician that is not the lead singer just watching him fool around and interact with these other pros in a "casual" setting.
So many musicians have faces that look like they are in extreme pain when they are feeling it. I like how Tim's face lights up with joy when he plays something tasty.
One advantage of being on RUclips in your 60s is all of us viewers in our 60s who grew up at the same time with the same music and are enthralled when you take us back to revisit our lives through those songs. And there’s a big bonus for those of us who are musicians as well.
It's really nice to relate with people and to me these guys and their interests is like hanging around with my closest friends, we just understand where we're coming from and where each of us are trying to go and we back each other directly and implicitly, whether we agree or not, that's special stuff. Cheers
I was in a car accident that erased a lot of my memories so I look at old Top 40 lists from the 60s/70s/80s (happened in 88) to try to remember my life. It erased my ability to play piano too but increased my ability to learn song lyrics.
I had an AR man tell me to change the drums for a song I was working on. He came back the next day and I said "Here's the song with the new drums," he listened approvingly, he loved it. I hadn't changed a thing...
Like Leland Sklar’s “Producer’s Switch” or Tommy Tedesco ducking below the baffle and pretending to play a different string instrument between takes, which was just the same guitar, played differently.
Guys, I'm 73 and still working hard at what I love doing - guitar. I'm subscribed to both of you. You "youngsters" inspire as well as educate me! If you stay young at heart, chronological age doesn't matter.
One year younger than you. Feel blessed to grow up during the golden years of electric guitar. These guys illustrate true musicianship and virtuosity. Keep practicing!
Tim's description of playing with Dylan is terrifying. And I can't ever imagine having the ability to follow someone who is changing it up so much without screwing up all the time. I'm in awe of the talent of Tim and his fellow session guys.
Dylan's been a big joke for a long time. He pulled that act on the tour he did with the Grateful Dead - rehearsed a bunch of arrangements, then threw them out at the last minute i.e., on stage! I saw Dylan twice in the 1980s, I would never go again. He was awful. He destroyed all his arrangements, and melodies went right out the window, plus what little voice he had then was shot.
That’s why Dylan basically only plays with next level guitarists from Bloomfield to Robby Robertson to Mick Taylor to Mick Ronson to Larry Carlton to Mike Campbell or to a lesser extent Jerry Garcia.
And this makes The Traveling Wilburys first album even more amazing. George Harrison went to Bob's to use his studio to record one track of his own with multi-instrumentalist Jeff (Mr ELO) Lynne in tow as a friend / second ear and to assist production. Tom Petty popped in for a chill, Jim Keltner was called (drums initially on kitchen utensils) and Roy Orbison was local to connect with Lynne for a project (Jeff a huge fan of Roys). Next thing they are jamming together and wrote / recorded seven songs in seven days... with Bob Dylan in his kitchen, porch, garage, some what natural and un-amped. Lynne would work with George on the final production for the album later but really, I cannot think of anyone else other than George Harrison who could have pulled this off - of all the Beatle's he was the most relaxed about his creative input and ego, and had formed the closest relationship with Bob early days as they both had similar formative influences - American crossover folk, country, field, blues like John Cash, Carl Perkins, Chet Atkins, Woody Guthrie and Chuck Berry. Bob clearly respected George as an artiste and managed to contain him. Lynne would later comment that he had to pinch himself, sat there playing with Bob Dylan and George Harrison, his hero Roy, Tom and Jim thinking how did this happen to me... these guys are all legends and I am this guy from Birmingham who writes pop songs.
@@mrcustom61 - Although he did play with another Wilbury, George Harrison who recognised he was more than a Gibson Les Paul and a Marshall stack*. George encouraged Gary to play acoustic more and widen his approach from rock / blues - he understood that from his time with Eric - they wrote Badge together for example - who had arguably been going the same way with Mayall / Cream... nothing wrong with a blazing blues solo but Eric had more to give and would show it. Eric has mentioned several times in interviews that Harrison was one of his idols. Wah Wah indeed. * Not dissing Gary at all, arguably one of the greatest guitarists of all time and in terms of rock / blues up there with Duane Allman, SRV, Eric, Walter Trout, Jeff beck. I saw him live when he toured with B.B. King and he was sensational.
Rick, I just bought your Beato Book and I just want to say, I am blown away by how much information is there. The fact that it has audio examples to go with lessons makes it worth every penny and then some. Thank you for the work that went into making it!
The album Wichita Lineman was the only record my dad ever owned that he would listen to. Any other record was bought for my mom or us kids. So I ripped it onto a CD so he could listen to it in his car. It had a 5 CD changer with just that CD in it. I ripped a bunch of his other "faves" like Elvis and Slim Whitman and tried to get him to venture out a little bit, but they never left the jewel cases. When Tim mentioned that, it was kind of a shocker. I had not thought of that album since he passed in 2017. A whole bunch of memories came flooding back in a wave. Good call Tim. That was real time machine fuel
Love this conversation! A word came to mind when Tim discusses his career being hired to play on others records that goes beyond being “the guy who sounds like the band” … Responsiblity. People can tell when you really care about what you are being paid to do for them vs. phoning it in for the check. Tim is “good people” as we say in the South. 👍🏻
Wichita lineman takes me back to the 70s as a child. Heard that song on every AM radio at some point. From the kitchen at breakfast to the car on vacation to wedding receptions and funerals alike.
Counterpoint to your comment about jazz on your channel... I've been a rock guy my whole life but your comments about Wes Montgomery, Joe Pass, etc have got me listening to jazz. Even checked out Wichita Lineman and you both are right. What a beautiful song. I never would have given it a chance otherwise. Keep it coming! You're expanding my horizons!
I am about the same age as these amazing artists, but was not blessed with their talents. They lived my musical dreams. It gives me great joy to listen to their stories and analysis of records and trends in music, and to hear that they love many of the same songs and records that I love. I am so grateful to Rick and Tim for sharing this lively conversation with us.
Two of my favorite people from the music world here. It's not just because of their immense talent, which I'll never be able to emulate; it's their positive attitudes, which is something we all can (and likely should) strive for! 🙏
Jazz is what attracted me to your channel in the first place. It's opened my eyes to the structure of songs I've loved all my life and never really known why. Now I hear a song and I hear a 2nd or a maj7 chord or a funky mode and I'm like: oooh! Wow! I never caught that before! Now I know why I love this song!
The Mamas and the Papas records from the mid-60s were extremely well produced. ( I’m guessing Wrecking Crew musicians.) And those 4-part harmony vocals are sublime.
Very well written Barb. It’s so pleasant to see and listen to Tim that i have to constantly smile ☺️ What a beautiful Soul…..so inspiring ✨❤️💫 Thank you Tim & Rick
@@thepanicroommastering2062 Thank you. I agree. Tim's smile is contagious for sure. I also love how Rick is all smiles when he's listening to Tim. They have a great admiration for each other. ❤️
Enjoyed this much! Born in '54, grew up in SoCal with music on AM radio morphing into the good stuff on FM (KRLA.....KDAY.....KLOS.....KMET) . I'm looking forward to watching Rick's video on Wes Montgomery. My band plays "Four On Six" and we're gonna work up "Back to Bach to Bock".
There are two main types of jazz. Instrumental jazz and lyrical jazz. Lyrical jazz is still popular with artists such as Melody Gardot, Amy Winehouse, Beth Hart and Sting. Instrumentals in any genre right now are not popular.
I don't know you Rick but I think I know how talented you really are. The reference to the 'unnamed track' that you mixed and produced and the end product released by the record company really interests me. You have 3.3 million subscribers. It would be nice to hear that record back to back and see what your followers think.
Nothing better than these little podcast style interviews. Tim Piece is right up there with the greats like early Jimmy Page, Steve Lukather, Vic Flick, etc. Yeah he didn't go out there and found his own wildly successful band, but he has every bit as much skill at the instrument as most famous guitarists.
Just want to let you guy’s know that I really enjoy your RUclips content! I turned 67 on the 20th of January and I started playing guitar at the age of 16 in 1972, I’m so inspire to keep learning after all of these years because of the both of you! PLEASE keep the video’s coming ❤
Totally true about the ego thing! I've done work for people where I thought "this is excellent" and been asked to do something completely different. And you can *feel* your first idea was better, and almost feel like going "you should get someone else". Being able to suppress that and up your game can be hard, but often pushes you to write something even better.
I love when you two guys get together. Rick your interest in the LA studio session days and the questions you ask really pulls all the information I want to hear from Tim out so well. I'd love to hear Tim talk more about taking little parts and layering counter parts (harmonies, octaves or call and response) over them to build a great track. I think it's so cool how you can just start small and build great songs in the studio and Tim is one of the best. Great convo guys...😎🎸
Fyi - check out Andrew Synowiec’s channel for a new studio recording video with Tim playing rhythm and some great lead solos. Albuquerque Blues is awesome and Tim and Andrew go toe to toe in a solo dual! (Just dawned on me that he may have written the song about Tim as he was from Albuquerque?). Anyway, Andrew was on Tim’s show not too long ago and is a top notch session guitarist in LA! There are at least three other songs that Tim plays on that are listed. You may have already seem them! If you like it share with your friends as I think Tim needs a little credit for this phenomenal performance!
This stuff going down right here is unprecedented in its candor and fidelity. In hundreds of years historians and enthusiasts will have such a rich body of information about the scene. Remember these guys lived it before it could really be captured and preserved, bridging that time from before (the Internet) and after. Thank you so much for sharing it’s truly a privilege to get to hear what you have to say. Peace.
I have the HIGHEST respect for studio musicians. Tim is a LEGEND! The ability to work on the fly and satisfy the artist is mind-blowing; the perfection required is unbelievable... I meant session players if that's the correct term.
Your advantage: You took the stairs here. It was an open stairway exposed to the sounds, the feelings, the soul, the heart, the talent (sadly sometimes the lack thereof)…And the touch… in the chest, in the mind, in the gut (and sometimes a bit lower). The touch on the skin: on the fingers; brushing the arms. Sometimes, water on the cheek from corners of the eyes. And, during your ascent, you stopped to checkout the floors, exploring, learning, sharing. Leaving each floor with a desire to explore more, to learn more, to share more. For many, especially the young, over-eagerness, craving fame and becoming a bit too caught up in ambition will lead to a desire to take the elevator. I genuinely appreciate you for being who you are and what you do. Thank you so very very much and best wishes and warmest regards for you and your loved ones.
I'll never forget being 11 in fifth grade and trading a few acdc cassettes for nevermind. I had no influences to know such music. It was truly life changing. It blew my fucking mind. I was like this is MY music this is ME. This speaks to me like nothing ever before has. I wore that cassette out and had to retape it over and over.
When you guys get together it's better than feeling like a fly on the wall. You feel like the third person in a great conversation who has their mouth taped shut. Keep up the great work!
Man I love this very much! This is me and my friends hanging out at each other’s houses with our guitars in the 80’’s. Geeking out and basking in the glory of music. 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
21:41 This reminds me so much of Clare Torry's now epic performance in "The great gig in the sky", and how she describes her leaving the studio that day, without a clue if they (the band) even liked what she had done.
When an entire band is into improvising their songs live, changing up parts & reacting off of each other in their performance, that is where people see the true magic. Its a very special relationship to have with a group of people, and a pleasure/privilege to behold as a listener.
EXACTLY... My background as a Guitarist, 99.9% of my originals were written on the spot. No Rehearsals. Pure Improvisation. Give or take some bad timing during the iMPROV, that can always be fixed later.. 😁👍 I feel that many bands today don't have that ON THE SPOT Improvisation .. Just my take
I too was born in 1958 along with Prince, Mike Jackson and Madonna ...and now Tim Pierce! Hey! The best age to get the beginning of the Beatles (and get it) thru it all. I turned six as they performed on Ed Sullivan. My W. Line is probably Yesterday for the exact same reason you give for WL. When that highest violin note reaches its top at about 1:37 at the final verse used to cause my eyes to well. Not my favorite song but a production that works for me emotionally. The next time that happened to me was Linger by Cranberries. "why were you holding her hand" - it tears at me.
Never really was a Rick Springfield fan, but noticed some of his song's guitar parts and solos were phenomenal. Found out, recently, they were all Tim Pierce. Started following him then. I'm 58 and have been playing guitar for a long time, but never made the move to become pro. I just played the clubs. I love listening to him talk about his experiences.
Most amazing thing about this for me is learning that such a monster player as Tim had no music school or training! You'd think, from listening to him play that he was a professor at Berklee in a previous life. What a HUGE talent.
So weird. Both Tim & Rick love "Wichita Lineman." It is one of my all-time favorite songs as well. Sublime lyrics ("I hear you singing in the wire; I can hear you through the whine")....everything about it. My dad was a telephone lineman when it came out. I almost imagined the song was about him.
It is my all-time favorite also... so I puffed up a little bit when they said it was theirs. You know what was weird? When A Girl Named Tom performed on The Voice a couple years ago, the first two songs they performed were my two favorite songs in the world, Wichita Lineman and Helplessly Hoping by Crosby Stills & Nash. Man, I hope you got to hear their version of Wichita Lineman, It brought tears to my eyes.
Jazz always works for me, and especially when you do it on your channel. I'm a pretty serious player and I can attest that my my all time favorite music video that I have ever watched (and I have watched it so many times I can't count) is the greatest solo ever played with Oscar Peterson. Please don't lose the faith Rick, there are jazz fans out there.
it is nice to be older and do what you enjoy and love. I'm 72 and just started to learn to play guitar, and a student of Tim's and loving it. Rick I found your channel about a year ago and love all that you produce even your Jazz its great!!!!
The hard part, so very often for musicians, is "keeping your marriage (or relationship) good" as Tim says. Props to you both for all you have given us through talent, hard work and passion that you always bring to your craft. It's a joy to witness
Tim has been one of my favourite guitarists since the early 80s, was lucky enough to see him play with Rick Springfield in London. Check out the playing on 'Tao' by Springfield and on Patty Smyth's solo album...brilliant!
Love this. I'll never be anything more than a hobby musician, but I can sort of relate having spent 30 years as a commercial photographer. When you arrive on set, either studio or location, you are expected to produce no matter what. It was huge pressure, but that made it exciting. Man, I miss that action.
This was an interesting conversation and as a professional software developer the same basic theme applies. Early in my career I did exactly what the client wanted but now with decades of experience I know when a client is making a mistake with what they are asking for. If they don't want to hire me for my experience and ideas of how to design and implement the software I simply tell them I'm not interested!
Pure entertainment. Listening to guys who are so accomplished and who STILL had to go through the goofy stuff in the studios and live gigs make me realize it's ok for me to continue to write and record my music. They give me PERMISSION. And, all of my songs I release into the wild may be "digital dust", but they are better constructed digital dust after working through the Beato book, especially the chapters for what chords go together in major and minor keys and the use of borrowed chords. 😆
I love Tim's definition of a "record." That's a whole different perspective. I always wondered why some people considered songs a record. I assumed they were referring to a single of it.
This is why it is SOOO hilarious when clueless "music people" incorrectly make a big deal saying - it's a CD, or it's a MP3. True artists ALWAYS said: let's go make a record. The delivery medium is inconsequential.
I started learning guitar in 82, and learned every RnR tune from Buddy Holly to Van Halen. I went back and studied the delta style, Chicago, slide, alt tunings etc. Folk, Country etc. A great song is a great song. Players like me grow on trees, but writers...are a gift. I'm glad they brought up My Cherie Amour. Might be my favorite song. Would like to see Tim, Lukather, Skunk Baxter, Watchel etc, talk about all the hits we love that "THEY" came up with the licks/hooks etc. I know Lukather mentioned NDAs sadly. These guys are American music history. Everyone needs to watch the Wrecking crew documentary. Inspiring. Tim Pierce is all that! Cheers 🍷
@@bankruptfilly Tim made it very clear as to how Nirvana ignited his career from random sessions to performing seven days a week! That was the whole point of the thumbnail!
@@j_freed Mechanicals is what they used to be called. It’s where a good portion of mine came from and it wasn’t easy to collect ‘em. Some people are control freaks
I was blessed enough to have breakfast with Tim and then head over to his studio and watch him work. He was so FAST! Amazing how quickly he could not only come up with a part but then he just laid it down immediately in Pro Tools. A true artist.
I love that you mentioned Jazz and the Wrecking Crew. Carol Kaye is one of my favorite bass players because her Jazz background made her a more interesting Rock & Roll musician. She understood the simple, little things that could make, "Good enough," _better,_ like incorporating arpeggiated chord _extensions_ into a standard walking bass line.
Good point on focusing on the session and not what is done later with it. Like advice to writers on letting go of their creation if it is turned in to a film.
Some of your fans love the Jazz. Sorry there aren't enough of us. I grew up on Eric Dolphy, John Coltrane, Miles Davis and the Art Ensemble of Chicago.
There's so much to learn from both Rick and Tim when it comes to life experiences. I'm 48 and I feel like a kid listening to his dad and friend talking about life and work as well as wisdom learned along the way.
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This needs to become a regular show, just Tim and Rick talking about music.
... and playing. Thats missing here, whereas when Tim is on Norman's Rare Guitars, they talk and he plays either himself or with others. That's all thats missing here, and maybe a little about their chosen guitar (in the session) and why - not geeky but a a minute or two - it helps and guitarists are generally interested in what pickups, amp etc are used to get the tone.
i think keeping Davoderado is huge being on as well at RS on keeping things exciting as well
Harrier than that 😂
No TV-show is better than this! I love professional people talking about things they love. So much joy!!!
I love these guys' mixture of humility and self assurance. No false modesty and not bragging either. Like proper pros.
It’s a delicate balance.
For real. Tim, talking about being in awe, sort of, around Bob Dylan but not hesitating to say well yeah! And zero hesitation confirming the no mistakes cause we are all pros. It's appropriate. When you're the best, it's rather important to be confident that you're the best. Just imagine if Tim Pierce never got interested in RUclips. All his amazing knowledge and experiences, all the easy confidence no matter what he is doing, all this amazing and interesting storytelling. It wouldn't be unknown, but it's for sure that millions of people would never benefit from it. It's a whole master class on how to be an s tier pro musician that is not the lead singer just watching him fool around and interact with these other pros in a "casual" setting.
Agreed. . . 100%
Great thought
So many musicians have faces that look like they are in extreme pain when they are feeling it. I like how Tim's face lights up with joy when he plays something tasty.
Even if your Jazz videos get fewer views, many of us still enjoy them :)
I’m only here for the Holdsworth mentions 😅😅😅
I second this. I come here mostly for the jazz and steely dan stuff. Maybe we could get a video about Wayne Shorter?
Speaking of views, it seems to be getting harder to see how many views a video is getting
Hey Rick, Waiting and waiting for the George Benson Video.... Pretty please...
Oh wait, they moved it down! Easier to read! That's the advantage of living in Asia. Nobody reads anything I say for many hours! Great video, BTW.
One advantage of being on RUclips in your 60s is all of us viewers in our 60s who grew up at the same time with the same music and are enthralled when you take us back to revisit our lives through those songs. And there’s a big bonus for those of us who are musicians as well.
And us viewers in our 70s too!
It's really nice to relate with people and to me these guys and their interests is like hanging around with my closest friends, we just understand where we're coming from and where each of us are trying to go and we back each other directly and implicitly, whether we agree or not, that's special stuff.
Cheers
I was in a car accident that erased a lot of my memories so I look at old Top 40 lists from the 60s/70s/80s (happened in 88) to try to remember my life. It erased my ability to play piano too but increased my ability to learn song lyrics.
I had an AR man tell me to change the drums for a song I was working on. He came back the next day and I said "Here's the song with the new drums," he listened approvingly, he loved it. I hadn't changed a thing...
Like Leland Sklar’s “Producer’s Switch” or Tommy Tedesco ducking below the baffle and pretending to play a different string instrument between takes, which was just the same guitar, played differently.
Was your Dad the great great guitarist, Sonny Greenwich?
@@bluecrueful He still is! He's 87yrs old...
That is quite scary considering how much control he had. Well done ;-)
@@SonnyGreenwichJrMy friend will freak out - he loved Sonny’s playing.
Guys, I'm 73 and still working hard at what I love doing - guitar. I'm subscribed to both of you. You "youngsters" inspire as well as educate me! If you stay young at heart, chronological age doesn't matter.
One year younger than you. Feel blessed to grow up during the golden years of electric guitar. These guys illustrate true musicianship and virtuosity. Keep practicing!
Nothing better than Tim and Rick talking and conversating. No shortage of invaluable experience and counsel from them. Pure Class.
I read that as Tim and Erick. Haha
Conversating… My favourite new neologism
*conversing
@@peterevans8598 One of my most despised. There was already a word serving perfectly well.
Conversationating
Tim's description of playing with Dylan is terrifying. And I can't ever imagine having the ability to follow someone who is changing it up so much without screwing up all the time. I'm in awe of the talent of Tim and his fellow session guys.
Thats why Gary Moore didnt want to play with Dylan.... frivolous.
Dylan's been a big joke for a long time. He pulled that act on the tour he did with the Grateful Dead - rehearsed a bunch of arrangements, then threw them out at the last minute i.e., on stage! I saw Dylan twice in the 1980s, I would never go again. He was awful. He destroyed all his arrangements, and melodies went right out the window, plus what little voice he had then was shot.
That’s why Dylan basically only plays with next level guitarists from Bloomfield to Robby Robertson to Mick Taylor to Mick Ronson to Larry Carlton to Mike Campbell or to a lesser extent Jerry Garcia.
And this makes The Traveling Wilburys first album even more amazing. George Harrison went to Bob's to use his studio to record one track of his own with multi-instrumentalist Jeff (Mr ELO) Lynne in tow as a friend / second ear and to assist production. Tom Petty popped in for a chill, Jim Keltner was called (drums initially on kitchen utensils) and Roy Orbison was local to connect with Lynne for a project (Jeff a huge fan of Roys). Next thing they are jamming together and wrote / recorded seven songs in seven days... with Bob Dylan in his kitchen, porch, garage, some what natural and un-amped.
Lynne would work with George on the final production for the album later but really, I cannot think of anyone else other than George Harrison who could have pulled this off - of all the Beatle's he was the most relaxed about his creative input and ego, and had formed the closest relationship with Bob early days as they both had similar formative influences - American crossover folk, country, field, blues like John Cash, Carl Perkins, Chet Atkins, Woody Guthrie and Chuck Berry. Bob clearly respected George as an artiste and managed to contain him. Lynne would later comment that he had to pinch himself, sat there playing with Bob Dylan and George Harrison, his hero Roy, Tom and Jim thinking how did this happen to me... these guys are all legends and I am this guy from Birmingham who writes pop songs.
@@mrcustom61 - Although he did play with another Wilbury, George Harrison who recognised he was more than a Gibson Les Paul and a Marshall stack*. George encouraged Gary to play acoustic more and widen his approach from rock / blues - he understood that from his time with Eric - they wrote Badge together for example - who had arguably been going the same way with Mayall / Cream... nothing wrong with a blazing blues solo but Eric had more to give and would show it. Eric has mentioned several times in interviews that Harrison was one of his idols. Wah Wah indeed.
* Not dissing Gary at all, arguably one of the greatest guitarists of all time and in terms of rock / blues up there with Duane Allman, SRV, Eric, Walter Trout, Jeff beck. I saw him live when he toured with B.B. King and he was sensational.
Rick, I just bought your Beato Book and I just want to say, I am blown away by how much information is there. The fact that it has audio examples to go with lessons makes it worth every penny and then some. Thank you for the work that went into making it!
Being a Brazilian, watching your jazz videos is one the only sources that I can really trust, Rick. Please keep doing these, I love them
I don't know how Tim can bring more joy to the party.... he is a great big mountain of joy, with smile icing. Love it!
Witchita Lineman is so awesome. Glen is such a versatile musician! I still listen to this today all the time.
The album Wichita Lineman was the only record my dad ever owned that he would listen to. Any other record was bought for my mom or us kids. So I ripped it onto a CD so he could listen to it in his car. It had a 5 CD changer with just that CD in it. I ripped a bunch of his other "faves" like Elvis and Slim Whitman and tried to get him to venture out a little bit, but they never left the jewel cases. When Tim mentioned that, it was kind of a shocker. I had not thought of that album since he passed in 2017. A whole bunch of memories came flooding back in a wave. Good call Tim. That was real time machine fuel
How lucky are we to see Rick AND Tim together! I learned how to play some Zeppelin riffs by watching Tim's channel lol. Awesome!
Tim mentioned Burt Bacharach. The Bill Frisell album “The Sweetest Punch: The Songs of Costello and Bacharach
Bill Frisell” is an amazing album.
Love this conversation! A word came to mind when Tim discusses his career being hired to play on others records that goes beyond being “the guy who sounds like the band” … Responsiblity. People can tell when you really care about what you are being paid to do for them vs. phoning it in for the check. Tim is “good people” as we say in the South. 👍🏻
Carol Kaye, one of the best ever string slingers. Legend. That's an interview I'd love to see.
Yeah, that, and, hey Rick, we're still waitin' on the Joni interview!
Unfortunately she seems to have a pretty big chip on her shoulder. But I can still hope for a great interview...
@@RockandRollWoman Chip on her shoulder? Do you mind elaborating?
Wichita lineman takes me back to the 70s as a child. Heard that song on every AM radio at some point. From the kitchen at breakfast to the car on vacation to wedding receptions and funerals alike.
Counterpoint to your comment about jazz on your channel... I've been a rock guy my whole life but your comments about Wes Montgomery, Joe Pass, etc have got me listening to jazz. Even checked out Wichita Lineman and you both are right. What a beautiful song. I never would have given it a chance otherwise. Keep it coming! You're expanding my horizons!
When Rick said, "Tim, that's not true", to the notion of their falling out as a partnership, it was a beautiful moment. Rick really loves Tim.
I am about the same age as these amazing artists, but was not blessed with their talents. They lived my musical dreams. It gives me great joy to listen to their stories and analysis of records and trends in music, and to hear that they love many of the same songs and records that I love. I am so grateful to Rick and Tim for sharing this lively conversation with us.
Don't give up on jazz. The next generations need the inspiration and creative genius that jazz brings.
Two of my favorite people from the music world here. It's not just because of their immense talent, which I'll never be able to emulate; it's their positive attitudes, which is something we all can (and likely should) strive for! 🙏
Jazz is what attracted me to your channel in the first place. It's opened my eyes to the structure of songs I've loved all my life and never really known why. Now I hear a song and I hear a 2nd or a maj7 chord or a funky mode and I'm like: oooh! Wow! I never caught that before! Now I know why I love this song!
I feel fortunate to have sat next to Tim on sessions in the 90s-00s. Seeing this, I still get excited by his massive talent and professionalism.
Rick, love Wes Montgomery. He was the gateway drug to me starting to “get” jazz. His octave stuff opened a door for me to step through.
The Mamas and the Papas records from the mid-60s were extremely well produced. ( I’m guessing Wrecking Crew musicians.) And those 4-part harmony vocals are sublime.
Wrecking Crew is indeed correct. You can hear the distinct sound of Joe Osborn on bass and Hal Blaine on drums on those great Lou Adler productions.
Wrecking Crew musicians and Bones Howe producing. Same people as the Fifth Dimension, who also had great harmony vocals.
I even love the slight tape pitch irregularity on "I saw her Again" and the false start is fabulous, such character!
Never stop the jazz videos
I keep forgetting these 2 are in their 60s . They’re so youthful! Love this duo
Love when you two have a chat and invite us along. ❤️ Tim you already bring joy with that contagious smile of yours.
Very well written Barb. It’s so pleasant to see and listen to Tim that i have to constantly smile ☺️ What a beautiful Soul…..so inspiring ✨❤️💫 Thank you Tim & Rick
@@thepanicroommastering2062 Thank you. I agree. Tim's smile is contagious for sure. I also love how Rick is all smiles when he's listening to Tim. They have a great admiration for each other. ❤️
I want to see Rick and Tim jamming together. It's my wish for 2023 🤘
Enjoyed this much! Born in '54, grew up in SoCal with music on AM radio morphing into the good stuff on FM (KRLA.....KDAY.....KLOS.....KMET) . I'm looking forward to watching Rick's video on Wes Montgomery. My band plays "Four On Six" and we're gonna work up "Back to Bach to Bock".
I'm in my 60s (63) and I love and agree with all you guys are saying! Great discussion guys, great discussion.
We love jazz Rick, do a feature on Julian Lage, BadBadNotGood, The Bad Plus etc
Many of us care about jazz
Many of us like how you explain jazz in a pop/rock context.
Keep going Rick! Aloha!
There are two main types of jazz. Instrumental jazz and lyrical jazz. Lyrical jazz is still popular with artists such as Melody Gardot, Amy Winehouse, Beth Hart and Sting. Instrumentals in any genre right now are not popular.
I don't know you Rick but I think I know how talented you really are. The reference to the 'unnamed track' that you mixed and produced and the end product released by the record company really interests me. You have 3.3 million subscribers. It would be nice to hear that record back to back and see what your followers think.
I think we're all thinking the same thing!
You guys are so awesome.. So inspirational as a musucian and independent small time producer... Love you guys.....
Nothing better than these little podcast style interviews. Tim Piece is right up there with the greats like early Jimmy Page, Steve Lukather, Vic Flick, etc. Yeah he didn't go out there and found his own wildly successful band, but he has every bit as much skill at the instrument as most famous guitarists.
Probably even more skill
Just want to let you guy’s know that I really enjoy your RUclips content! I turned 67 on the 20th of January and I started playing guitar at the age of 16 in 1972, I’m so inspire to keep learning after all of these years because of the both of you! PLEASE keep the video’s coming ❤
Totally true about the ego thing! I've done work for people where I thought "this is excellent" and been asked to do something completely different. And you can *feel* your first idea was better, and almost feel like going "you should get someone else". Being able to suppress that and up your game can be hard, but often pushes you to write something even better.
Ahhhh…. Being eclectic and loving many flavors of music, this is one of my favorite happy places!
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I love when you two guys get together. Rick your interest in the LA studio session days and the questions you ask really pulls all the information I want to hear from Tim out so well. I'd love to hear Tim talk more about taking little parts and layering counter parts (harmonies, octaves or call and response) over them to build a great track. I think it's so cool how you can just start small and build great songs in the studio and Tim is one of the best. Great convo guys...😎🎸
Fyi - check out Andrew Synowiec’s channel for a new studio recording video with Tim playing rhythm and some great lead solos. Albuquerque Blues is awesome and Tim and Andrew go toe to toe in a solo dual! (Just dawned on me that he may have written the song about Tim as he was from Albuquerque?). Anyway, Andrew was on Tim’s show not too long ago and is a top notch session guitarist in LA! There are at least three other songs that Tim plays on that are listed. You may have already seem them! If you like it share with your friends as I think Tim needs a little credit for this phenomenal performance!
“Once you get a taste of doing your own thing, you can’t go back.” So true.
Hey Rick could you do a video on crowded house, underrated man. Maybe essential songs, great melody and cool chord substitution.
Love Crowded House!! Great suggestion!
Plenty of folks went to LA and didn’t become great studio players despite their hopes and dreams. Tim and his studio peers are super talented.
Tim has the best attitude. I smile when he tells stories.
The jazz stuff is how I found your channel, Rick. So please, keep 'em coming!
Mainly here for the jazz!
This stuff going down right here is unprecedented in its candor and fidelity. In hundreds of years historians and enthusiasts will have such a rich body of information about the scene. Remember these guys lived it before it could really be captured and preserved, bridging that time from before (the Internet) and after. Thank you so much for sharing it’s truly a privilege to get to hear what you have to say. Peace.
I have the HIGHEST respect for studio musicians. Tim is a LEGEND! The ability to work on the fly and satisfy the artist is mind-blowing; the perfection required is unbelievable... I meant session players if that's the correct term.
Australia also doesn't pay royalties on performances. I'd be significantly better off if they did as I've played on some big ones.
I love to hear Tim talking about learning and wanting to keep getting better as a guitar player. That inspires me!!
Your advantage: You took the stairs here. It was an open stairway exposed to the sounds, the feelings, the soul, the heart, the talent (sadly sometimes the lack thereof)…And the touch… in the chest, in the mind, in the gut (and sometimes a bit lower). The touch on the skin: on the fingers; brushing the arms. Sometimes, water on the cheek from corners of the eyes.
And, during your ascent, you stopped to checkout the floors, exploring, learning, sharing. Leaving each floor with a desire to explore more, to learn more, to share more.
For many, especially the young, over-eagerness, craving fame and becoming a bit too caught up in ambition will lead to a desire to take the elevator.
I genuinely appreciate you for being who you are and what you do. Thank you so very very much and best wishes and warmest regards for you and your loved ones.
I'll never forget being 11 in fifth grade and trading a few acdc cassettes for nevermind. I had no influences to know such music. It was truly life changing. It blew my fucking mind. I was like this is MY music this is ME. This speaks to me like nothing ever before has. I wore that cassette out and had to retape it over and over.
When you guys get together it's better than feeling like a fly on the wall. You feel like the third person in a great conversation who has their mouth taped shut. Keep up the great work!
I have a sweeter option: We are like children listening to the coolest elders on our family sharing amazing stories.
Man I love this very much! This is me and my friends hanging out at each other’s houses with our guitars in the 80’’s. Geeking out and basking in the glory of music. 🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
21:41 This reminds me so much of Clare Torry's now epic performance in "The great gig in the sky", and how she describes her leaving the studio that day, without a clue if they (the band) even liked what she had done.
I'm a big fan of Tim Pierce and Rick Springfield! Thank you a lot for the great 80's music and sound!
I had no clue Tim Pierce plays all the guitars on Shinedown’s “Sound of Madness” album. I’m listening to it in a new way now! Wow! Mind is blown.
When an entire band is into improvising their songs live, changing up parts & reacting off of each other in their performance, that is where people see the true magic. Its a very special relationship to have with a group of people, and a pleasure/privilege to behold as a listener.
EXACTLY... My background as a Guitarist, 99.9% of my originals were written on the spot. No Rehearsals. Pure Improvisation. Give or take some bad timing during the iMPROV, that can always be fixed later.. 😁👍
I feel that many bands today don't have that ON THE SPOT Improvisation .. Just my take
I too was born in 1958 along with Prince, Mike Jackson and Madonna ...and now Tim Pierce! Hey! The best age to get the beginning of the Beatles (and get it) thru it all. I turned six as they performed on Ed Sullivan. My W. Line is probably Yesterday for the exact same reason you give for WL. When that highest violin note reaches its top at about 1:37 at the final verse used to cause my eyes to well. Not my favorite song but a production that works for me emotionally. The next time that happened to me was Linger by Cranberries. "why were you holding her hand" - it tears at me.
As a kid from the 90s, I greatly appreciate this. I learned to play guitar by endlessly strumming along to nirvana.
I’ve come full circle. Jazz is true understanding of music/guitar/piano…hell, all instrument…virtuosity and understanding!!
It'd be GREAT to see you both guys along with Adam Reader (Professor of Rock) just talking about music in general.
Hopefully.... :)
Sort of competitors, but it would be cool to see them get together and maybe enhance each other's audiences.
Never really was a Rick Springfield fan, but noticed some of his song's guitar parts and solos were phenomenal. Found out, recently, they were all Tim Pierce. Started following him then. I'm 58 and have been playing guitar for a long time, but never made the move to become pro. I just played the clubs. I love listening to him talk about his experiences.
I love your Jazz videos Rick. Keep em coming. The Ron Carter Interview was life changing for me.
Tim, I don't know how you could possibly "play better guitar", but I understand wanting to keep learning. Excellent discussion from a couple of pros.
Most amazing thing about this for me is learning that such a monster player as Tim had no music school or training! You'd think, from listening to him play that he was a professor at Berklee in a previous life. What a HUGE talent.
So weird. Both Tim & Rick love "Wichita Lineman." It is one of my all-time favorite songs as well. Sublime lyrics ("I hear you singing in the wire; I can hear you through the whine")....everything about it. My dad was a telephone lineman when it came out. I almost imagined the song was about him.
It is my all-time favorite also... so I puffed up a little bit when they said it was theirs.
You know what was weird? When A Girl Named Tom performed on The Voice a couple years ago, the first two songs they performed were my two favorite songs in the world, Wichita Lineman and Helplessly Hoping by Crosby Stills & Nash. Man, I hope you got to hear their version of Wichita Lineman, It brought tears to my eyes.
Just thinking about that song brings the tears. So beautiful!
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You could literally sell tickets for this...and, here it is. Absolutely free.
Thank you both.
So much wisdom here, I can't believe it! "The best version of the simplest part or the simplest version of the best part" - Zen!
Cool to see Tim and Rick together again. Excellent video. Love this format.
I love hanging out with you guys on you tube. Same age, same love for music of 60s and 70s, same love of all things guitar. Thank you Tim and Rick
I have so much respect for Tim and his professionalism.
During 38 minutes with 2 guitars ready to play but they didn't! I thought that was a guitar video!! 😁 What a power of conversation! Thank you both!
Jazz always works for me, and especially when you do it on your channel. I'm a pretty serious player and I can attest that my my all time favorite music video that I have ever watched (and I have watched it so many times I can't count) is the greatest solo ever played with Oscar Peterson. Please don't lose the faith Rick, there are jazz fans out there.
it is nice to be older and do what you enjoy and love. I'm 72 and just started to learn to play guitar, and a student of Tim's and loving it. Rick I found your channel about a year ago and love all that you produce even your Jazz its great!!!!
I enjoy these interviews for more than just the guitar talk. I play just for my own amusement and its just cool to hear the conversations.
What a privilege we have to hear you guys talk and share the history of modern music with us .
The hard part, so very often for musicians, is "keeping your marriage (or relationship) good" as Tim says. Props to you both for all you have given us through talent, hard work and passion that you always bring to your craft. It's a joy to witness
Tim has been one of my favourite guitarists since the early 80s, was lucky enough to see him play with Rick Springfield in London. Check out the playing on 'Tao' by Springfield and on Patty Smyth's solo album...brilliant!
His playing on Living in Oz with Rick S., even better and more aggressive imo.
Rick, you have at least one subscriber who loves jazz and would love learning about jazz from you and your guests.
Love this. I'll never be anything more than a hobby musician, but I can sort of relate having spent 30 years as a commercial photographer. When you arrive on set, either studio or location, you are expected to produce no matter what. It was huge pressure, but that made it exciting. Man, I miss that action.
Top-class grumpy old guy entertainment. This is what hard work & experience sound like
Two of my favourite people
What a fantastic video! I also love being autonomous. It's the best thing about being on RUclips!
This was an interesting conversation and as a professional software developer the same basic theme applies. Early in my career I did exactly what the client wanted but now with decades of experience I know when a client is making a mistake with what they are asking for. If they don't want to hire me for my experience and ideas of how to design and implement the software I simply tell them I'm not interested!
Pure entertainment. Listening to guys who are so accomplished and who STILL had to go through the goofy stuff in the studios and live gigs make me realize it's ok for me to continue to write and record my music. They give me PERMISSION.
And, all of my songs I release into the wild may be "digital dust", but they are better constructed digital dust after working through the Beato book, especially the chapters for what chords go together in major and minor keys and the use of borrowed chords. 😆
I love Tim's definition of a "record." That's a whole different perspective. I always wondered why some people considered songs a record. I assumed they were referring to a single of it.
It's a record of what happened
This is why it is SOOO hilarious when clueless "music people" incorrectly make a big deal saying - it's a CD, or it's a MP3. True artists ALWAYS said: let's go make a record. The delivery medium is inconsequential.
@@martinaddison4880 Perfectly said.
without context, it's just Engrish.
Jazz works for me Rick. I love when you cover it.
You guys named some of my favorite all-time records, but I didn't know why I loved them so much.
I started learning guitar in 82, and learned every RnR tune from Buddy Holly to Van Halen. I went back and studied the delta style, Chicago, slide, alt tunings etc. Folk, Country etc.
A great song is a great song.
Players like me grow on trees, but writers...are a gift.
I'm glad they brought up My Cherie Amour. Might be my favorite song.
Would like to see Tim, Lukather, Skunk Baxter, Watchel etc, talk about all the hits we love that "THEY" came up with the licks/hooks etc.
I know Lukather mentioned NDAs sadly. These guys are American music history. Everyone needs to watch the Wrecking crew documentary. Inspiring.
Tim Pierce is all that!
Cheers 🍷
I think Nirvana ignited a lot of our careers .... Love these chats with Tim, what a guy.
The video title has very little to do with what they discussed in the video. Kinda disappointing
@@bankruptfilly yeah -- I think Rick was click-baiting us ... lol. Good one Rick because I still watched and enjoyed it.
@@bankruptfilly Tim made it very clear as to how Nirvana ignited his career from random sessions to performing seven days a week! That was the whole point of the thumbnail!
I saved this to watch later, I saw the original title about Kurt/Nirvana that you guys are talking about. Interesting that Rick now changed the title.
@@j_freed Mechanicals is what they used to be called. It’s where a good portion of mine came from and it wasn’t easy to collect ‘em. Some people are control freaks
I was blessed enough to have breakfast with Tim and then head over to his studio and watch him work. He was so FAST! Amazing how quickly he could not only come up with a part but then he just laid it down immediately in Pro Tools. A true artist.
I love that you mentioned Jazz and the Wrecking Crew. Carol Kaye is one of my favorite bass players because her Jazz background made her a more interesting Rock & Roll musician.
She understood the simple, little things that could make, "Good enough," _better,_ like incorporating arpeggiated chord _extensions_ into a standard walking bass line.
Good point on focusing on the session and not what is done later with it. Like advice to writers on letting go of their creation if it is turned in to a film.
Some of your fans love the Jazz. Sorry there aren't enough of us. I grew up on Eric Dolphy, John Coltrane, Miles Davis and the Art Ensemble of Chicago.
There's so much to learn from both Rick and Tim when it comes to life experiences. I'm 48 and I feel like a kid listening to his dad and friend talking about life and work as well as wisdom learned along the way.