I agree, the S1000XR makes absolutely no sense at all. I mean, who needs 165 horses, especially in a “touring” bike? Or an engine that is constantly reminding you of its presence (and that it quite fancies ripping your arms off). And it is a bit rowdy (some would say angry). Yes, the S1000XR is completely and utterly daft. Which is why I’ve got one and why I love it so much.
It's why I ride a 'Busa. Utterly bonkers power, unusable for mere mortals like myself, horrendous fuel economy, makes no sense whatsoever....but I love it.
Thanks for the review TMF confirming I have done the right thing ordering my TE version! Incidentally it's possible to bring that model to well over £15k if you throw enough accessories and extras at it. If you are of a sensitive disposition look away now as here are examples of a few of the accessory prices: Colour matched panniers (without liners): £711 Colour matched top case (without liner): £460 Tinted tall windscreen: £206 Engine bars (front): £356 Aux lights: £529 Rear rack (reqd. for top box): £213 A couple of commentators have mentioned the poor back brake (not really a huge issue but I blame Bybre) and my only other minor gripe is that it would have been nice to have the tank at say 17 litres as BMW are clearly after a slice of the adventure market. Worth mentioning also that the lowest 775mm option requires a factory lowered frame and you have to forfeit the electronic suspension as well as the centre stand. As well as the pre-load adjuster you pointed out there is a screw adjustment for damping I seem to remember. I was idly wondering whether the Chinese-made engine might cause supply difficulties to Berlin (Corona virus etc) where the bike is assembled.
From the US so like all your vlogs really appreciate the scenery along the way. Great road and homes along the river. Then had to pause to look up Marlow and the Angler Hotel and learn about the beautiful church, and a bit of Hurley. A virtual vacation and BMW moto tour (great bike from Bahnstormer!) in 24 minutes - thanks mate! 🤪👌🏼✊🏻
This bike seems to be the do it all machine and it look bang on. You have done a cracking job with this review and you could not find anything much you did not like. I’ve been looking on RUclips for other people showing off this bike and thankfully now “you”. I thinking I might sell a couple of my bikes and buy one of these. Can’t wait for your long term review thank you TMF👍👍
@@TheMissendenFlyer Well stop it then. I personally use my 125 around town, and love it. I don't need to, and am not allowed to, go over 50 mph anywhere in my city. So stop the big balls big bike nonsense. Unsubbed.
And straight to the motorrad configurator to size one up. Appears to be yet another good all-rounder - the flow of new and improved models over the last four or five years has been amazing.
That white version looks delightful! Could be my favourite BMW! Years since I went to Marlow....what a lovely place. Anyway, nice review and have a good weekend!
First time commenter TMF, your review along with a couple others convinced me to order one. Mine will be red with the Select Package here in the US. Arrives in 5 weeks. Loved my test ride and the after 2 miles this bike felt great.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Have watched your vlogs for several years. Not a heavy poster so consider this influence you had on my purchase a supreme compliment. :-)
Sorry I can't help Mine has yet to arrive. My order did not get produced before the factory shut down for covid. Mine has now been made and will arrive in early October. It will be a 2021.
Great bike, really nice in red, excellent camera footage on your new phone. Perfect view of the bike. Great, informative, clear and helpful as always. Loving your vlogs. 😄👍
I think for the price these are used, it is great. Picked up a 21 TE with 6k, eveey option selected for 8.5k, 2 year warranty, and 2 year breakdown. I think for my first bigger bike from an MT07, it's going to suit me well.
Great video again! I had a look at the F900R/XR today and I really like the looks, especially the XR. But I must admit I was a bit disappointed about the plastic fantastic look and feel of the grey/red panels.
My local dealer has a 2021 for a steal of a price. I wasn't planning on buying a bike this late in the season but after this review I am so very tempted. This seems like my ideal motorcycle.
I’ve had the S1000RR & currently have the S1000R. But even that’s a tad insane for touring. Hence I’ll pass on the S1000XR, but this 900XR hits the spot! Here in Australia we’ll only get the fully loaded version. I can live with that👍🏻😎 This’ll arrive in April here so I’ll definitely take one for a test ride. I’m still not discounting the Yamaha Tenere or the Husqvarna Norden 901! Yep these 2 are obviously more off road focussed but if I like the 900XR, I’ll take it! Good review Andy & hopefully in the UK your weather picks up for riding. Here now we are almost through the worst of summer & can’t wait for autumn!!!👍🏻😎
👍 Nice to see Marlow, got great memories of going there when I was a kid. Great review, BMW have produced a good looking bike which will be entering a busy market.
Yes indeed sir ....nice review as always ....this could be my next addition to the garage as it ticks all the boxes for me ....was interested to hear your comment on the visor size being on the small side but there is a larger option ....I fancy long miles on it so wind protection a big consideration for me and also low seat height due to my short arse ..... Might hold off a year to see what unfolds regards teething issues and maybe by then get better deals on the go ( hopefully 👌) ....well done and keep up the good work sir 👏👏👏
Good review TMF, nice bike just sat on one in the dealers, agree on the seat but they do optional tour seats. Only downer for me is the small 15.5L tank.
I had a Triumph Bonneville (Sp?) back in the early 60s. I think it had about 40 hp. I was never disappointed with the power. Today bikes seem so crazy to me.
Hey TMF! Enjoying my Tracer 700 having just completed my A2 in Jan! Love this BMW. I would logically be looking at a Tracer 900 in two years time but this is a very tempting alternative. Thanks for all your great, comprehensive and entertaining reviews. You were a great help in my choice of first bike!
Got a test ride on one of these tomorrow Andy along side the R1250R. Saturday a ride on a GL1800 DCT Bagger. So many choices! Great video as always and what a lovely day for a test ride video...
Nice review, thanks a lot Andy...! It's hard to make correct choice. I like this new F900XR but I am a bit "scary" about this engine : funny or boring. Some testers/riders said that this engine is a bit boring. I have to try it ASAP. 😉 I have had a Street Triple R 2013 and now an old R1200GS (2004). Hard choice to change my GS for this new XR900...
I enjoy your content ,the first time impressions, the long-term reviews on a lot of the newer bikes and even your reading of the news. I think it would be super cool for you to ride some of the standout bikes of the early 2000s and the 90s to compare them to the current crop. I think you might be surprised at just how capable they are compared to the newer iron . They keep adding technology and complexity yet if you look at the zero to 60 and the quarter mile times they haven't gained much at all. Obviously there's a lot more to bikes than that it would just be cool to see.
I agree with everything you say. 900cc is nearing the honey spot, 1000cc plus is way too much. Twin is better than four - less is actually more! Amazed to hear you describe a 4 in line bike [XR1000] as buzzy. I'm impressed, first time i think you never said buttery smooth. Shows you have some knowledge and integrity! Great review, it sounds a wonderful bike.
@@fyorbane I test rode a Z900 and it's not buttery smooth. If you look at Google you will see that 4 cylinders is inherently rough. Go ride or drive a 6 cylinder and get back to me when you will know what smooth is. Btw, i never said that a twin was smooth.
Glad to see your review. My local dealer (BMW / Triumph) just got one in this past Saturday. It looked interesting. BTW, they got in 2 Rocket3's on the same truck, a GT & R.
Great piece, Flyer! I am somewhat intrigued by this machine. I'm not a huge fan of parallel twins (I prefer triples) but I still think it would be nice to give this bike a go and see what she's got. It's interesting, this move by several makers to introduce this 900 class machine. There are a few of them out there now. Better than the middle weights but still a reasonable alternative to the big bikes. Looking forward to the long term review later this year. Cheers!
I have 2015 VFR800F with 62k miles on and have been thinking of changing it. I have concluded that actually I will get another VFR800F when I change. My reasoning is that they are available new for £9500 and come equipped with heated grips and a centre stand. Add these to the BMW and it seems a larger screen then you are talking about £11k+. Do you really need power modes for a 100hp bike?
Hi TMF thanks for another great review. I’m torn between the standard BMW F 900XR and a standard Ducati 950 multisrada. I’m not bothered about big speed, mostly all day comfort. Which is better in your opinion, please? Thanks Joc
Ive not had lots of experience with either bike, I do love the looks of the Multistrada but for me I think the BMW is possibly the better all round bike…..you won’t go wrong with either….
Great review as always Mr Flier. Having seen this I think I'm still convinced the tracer 900gt was the right choice. Such a flexible bike with great spec. 5k miles since July used in all weather and is faultless. Good mpg even when riding spirited, I have the front and rear suspension adjusted perfectly thanks to my dealer. I like the look of the BMW but you have to add so much to it the gt came pretty much as I needed everything. F850gt or a tiger 900 would be the only other bikes I think I'd look at now. Top review
Thanks for another great review, TMF, I’ve been waiting for this one. Hope you’ll do a long term review later on. It seems a fully specced F900XR will cost about the same as a Multistrada 950S in Norway, where I live. How would you compare the two?
I love the looks of the multistrada but it's way too top heavy for me - the Duke has that certain something but the Beemer is more practical (if less exciting/exotic)...
Trekky Delirium Yes, the GT Pro definitely also deserves a test ride. I ride a Triumph today - a Scrambler 1200 XE. Love it, but I’m interested in trying something a little more touring-oriented.
@ 8.43-8.50 were you talking about yourself or the bike?. Tried the tracer 900 last year, might see if I can have a go on this one to see how they compare. Bet the Tracer will be a lot cheaper over here in Thailand though.
Thanks for another cracking video. I would love an R1200GS but it’s a bit tight and heavy to get down the side of my house to my shed. Would this be a good alternative and does it feel a bit narrower than the big GS?
Thanks a lot for this highly expected review and thumbs up for the quick production. As a road rider who loves the upright seating position of enduros I'm very keen on riding it myself. Considering also the very affordable price it could be the next addition to my garage. I'm not very happy with the colour range of red, light grey and yellow, I'd go for the red one, but with the higher screen. Can't understand why BMW didn't offer the popular blue-white-red hp scheme.
Great review again Flyer. I'm considering going down the adventure tourer path now but just not really convinced by these smaller 900's. They just dont seem to look right to me. I test rode the 900 Tiger and was ok to ride but it just looks a little skinny and empty, will give the F900 a crack too and see...
Came here from his other vid for the F990R as soon as he said the other one was a bit more upright. I hate wrist pain, and I get it too much from lean-forward bikes. Seems like quite a quiet bike when not being revved, which is a big, big YES for me. I spent the cost of this bike on a Yamaha Tmax 530 DX 18 months ago, and have put only 600 miles on it since then as it's so very noisy. Parallel twin? V-Twin? New seat, higher screen, knuckle guards, grip-heaters, wife on the back (maybe)... Good to go man!
I've been waiting for your review and here we are! One question none of the other riders have addressed either though. Are there any vibrations in the bars, seat or pegs from that twin thumper??? That's the only thing that's stopping me going to order one tomorrow! What say you?!
Looks like a great bike. I will likely try a test ride on one in the spring. Dealers here in Canada do not typically have demo bikes but BMW travels around with a truck load of bikes offering demo days at the dealerships
Hiya TMF, Another great review, bike looks really good to me, but i bet that rear tyre soaks you on wet roads! seat ends over the rear spindle!. Two questions for your Sir! 1. You have a bike with only a side stand, why do you always park with the bike in neutral? I only use neutral at traffic lights on the flat. Otherwise its in gear so I can use the clutch to control the speed moving in and out of the garage etc. 2. explore the facts for us = do you need to 'scrub' modern tyres in? No release compound from the moulds nowadays so why not just ride? Looking forward to your reply! Regards Rog
Hi, Andy another brilliant review as always. Just wondered if you will be doing a review of the latest 2020 Benelli ktr 502 x bike as the only reviews available are from over seas and im seriously thinlng about getting one but i kind trust your reviews and would love to hear and see your opinionon that model.
@@TheMissendenFlyer that would be fantastic. I look forward to seeing more in depth reviews. as I said your reviews and walk around are perfect as you have the straight talk no bull attitude which is needed as too many reviewers just try to upsell the vehicle's.
I enjoy these reviews just as they are, but . . . at the end, if there was a link to specs and (they always want more) a link to bikes already reviewed representing direct competitors
I’ve had one of these (after all) for the past 8 months. It was the best all rounder and practical bike I could get. I have the sporty red TE. The electronic suspension and quick shifter work well. The dynamic mode is like having a different bike if you want it. The three piece luggage is fine for tours. My Mrs is happy as a passenger/pillion. The main things I did change are to a MRA Vario windshield (took me 10 mins to fit) and a Wunderlich Queen seat for more distance comfort. I sometimes miss the retro bikes, such as Bonnevilles, or fancy the RnineT; but as a practical tourer this is fine. Also I prefer twin engines so this is a good option for me.
How did you get on with the wunderlich queen seat? I’m 99% sure I’m going to buy this bike soon but have heard a lot of people complaining about the factory fitted seat, saying it’s too firm. Is the wunderlich queen seat comfy?
@@stephenashley9311 the stock seat is ok to get used to the bike. I splashed out on the Wunderlich Queen Seat for its pillion qualities. It’s not a soft cushioned seat, but it’s ergonomically better due to its construction and width. It’s very well constructed. As it is slightly wider i can feel it’s higher i.e. on the stock seat it is more comfortable to touch t( ground, but when moving with feet on pegs the Wunderlich seat is more comfortable. That means it is more comfortable on a longer journey. I’m told I can expect it to become even more comfortable over time. My wife hasn’t had much chance to try the pillion, but initially she can feel it is more comfortable and feels secure. I can recommend it, but as it’s not cheap i advise to get the bike first and get used to the stock seat before paying out. You can get one from Nippy Normans if you are in the UK. Good luck. It’s a good bike, especially if you like twins.
@@petewebb6952 thank you Pete. Very helpful. I will see how I get on with the stock seat first then. I haven’t had any experience with twin engines yet simply because I haven’t passed my test yet. I passed my mod 1 last week and I have my mod 2 on 19th April. All being well on the test I’ll be buying a F900XR 😁👍🏼
As always, a great review; thorough, entertaining and informative - I've been interested in this bike since it was first announced and hoping you would get to review it. Thank you so much! It strikes me as one of the best all rounders that BMW have released in some time. Not too expensive, not too heavy, not too tall, commuting, touring, sports riding, adventure riding, - it appears to do it all with the caveat of not having the much vaunted "off road" capability. True, it doesn't have the tele lever front end of a GS/GSA or RT, which enables ESA on both front and back, and chain rather than shaft drive - but it costs a lot less, weighs a lot less, and given the difference in weight v's power is probably not that far behind a GS/GSA/RT in outright performance. Tellingly though, it has all the latest electronic safety aids such as ABS Pro for example, which could be a lifesaver if in a critical situation you should panic brake whilst leaned over, thus saving a low or high side accident and crash. I do think the GS/GSA/RT are likely the better bikes overall than this new F900XR - but at significant extra cost. However for what it costs, and what it offers, and if you have no desire to go off road other than on short distances of unmade road, it looks to be an exceptionally well rounded package and great value for money. My local dealer whom I spoke to yesterday tells me these will hit the Australian market in April and arrive in a "fully loaded" specification at circa A$22,000. Compare that to a fully optioned GS which comes in circa A$35,000, or a fully optioned RT which hits A$42,000 looking at the AU BMW configuration tool online, and the value both financial and in it's all rounder capabilities will likely ensure this will be a very popular machine. Certainly I'll be taking a very interested look at one when they arrive. Thanks again for the great review :-)
You should do a pound for pound best bike. I know you a big fan of the GS but what would you choose at a given price point? A lot people (like myself), have grew up the Bangernomics Philosophy, where we would rather buy used to buy a better machine. I'm talking cars of course, but if you had say £10k ish, whst would you buy with your money? Might add if you are an average, mature rider. Great channel, really appreciate the efforts you put in your videos
First of all thanks you so much for your vids they are amazing and always great content, I never had a bike neither ride one but I want to get my A2 license before summer and honestly I’m in love of this bike!! Would you consider this bike as your first bike ever?
TheMissendenFlyer thanks for your reply! And ofc I would be A2 license version otherwise I couldn’t ride in Spain 😅 or anywhere else in Europe as far as I know
Hi TMF, questions 1. 14:08 why you're glad this doesn't come with keyless ignition? 2. comparison between single sided swing-arm and convention double swing-arm, which do you prefer? Also please do a review on Triumph Tiger 900
Bearing in mind your experience with the rear shock on your GS, would you spec the electronic/dynamic rear shock and why were you glad to say that the demo bike didn’t have keyless ignition? Tia
This was a brand new bike so seats will always be on the hardside. Over the years ive found that your body also adapts to the seat so its not always a case of wondering whether the seat needs upgrading, you need to bed in with the bike over a few hundred miles, more in some cases. I recall when i first starting riding my FZ8 and wasnt convinced by the seat but after around 500 mile my backside and hips began to become more familiar with the position the seat was putting them in. Currently looking into these sit up bikes that can do all, its a large sector when you consider the bikes available, from V stroms to even the ninja 650 and Yamaha tracers. An all day do anything sit up bike seems to be the way many are going now and the choices are fantastic.
Fantastic review, nice to hear someone else say the 1000 feels angry, fun as it is I thought it only made sense when I was going at speeds which draw attention. I bought the ex demo 900 from my local dealer and have done 3 things to improve the comfort, MRA Vario screen, re-padded seat and an unplanned one, a Non-GT spec rear Road 5 tyre because of a puncture... I have no clue why they chose to fit the reinforced GT tyres to a light bike like this but it made a difference for the better. On the twisty back lanes the 900xr is very evenly matched with a friends V-strom 1000, it's more fun for me than my MK1 SuperDuke GT was, so for me it's perfect.
Screen blast hmm, I truly truly believe, whatever size screen a manufacturer could put on a bike, the tester /vlogger would say "screens a bit low". Bikes are breezy things!!!!
Excellent review, good to be back in Bucks!! Can't say I like the gold struts though, prefer them to match the frame. But other than that it looks great!
As always, a great review. Thanks. I had been thinking of a Tracer 900 GT. This looks more suited to what I do. The GT has the cases but they won't even hold a helmet.
I have the 900gt consider a kappa rack and box a cost effective addition. Having seen this I won't be hanging up my tracer keys it's a flexible bike great for touring and commuting I use it all year round nearly 5k miles since July and love it. I'd take both for a test ride and see what u think
Like a lot of things in life, you make your choices. For someone who doesn’t want a cramp riding position, is fed up with sportsbikes being so focussed, but also doesn’t have multiple bikes, the Xr1000 is a sportsbike which is comfy which you can tour on and will take decent luggage.
Rode one today. Nice engine, the TFT display is lovely but that seat is dreadful. Painful from the off . But the worse thing was the absolute road filth both the bike and my back was covered in my the time I got back from a wet testride. That rear end offers no protection at all
I test drove one yesterday. I guess if you like the way BMW parallel twins vibrate, which I don’t, it’s pretty decent... Anyway, really good ergonomics, crappy windshield with great adjustment system, super strong brakes that make the forks dive a lot, rev it to get power, and it averaged ... 36.1 mpg [US] - oh and the mirrors vibrated like crazy, which is weird given TMF’s comments
Great review, thank you. Having just returned to riding again I was instantly taken by the looks of the F900XR and ordered one last November. So pleased your review confirms my initial rash order was a good decision. I pick the white bike up shown in your video this coming Friday. The white bike is the TE model with Comfort pack, headlight pro, TPC and emergency control, in all the package came in at £12K. The TE version adds cruise control and electrics for satnav plus a few other smaller items. Well worth paying the little extra for the TE. New subscriber.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes. It arrived two weeks ago, have to wait until 14 Feb to pick it up according to BMW as they have restricted official launch until then.
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Now this is one of those bikes that just makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the video, Andy! Keep it up!
Will do Rutger....providing you keep watching!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I'll be watching you ;)
I agree, the S1000XR makes absolutely no sense at all.
I mean, who needs 165 horses, especially in a “touring” bike?
Or an engine that is constantly reminding you of its presence (and that it quite fancies ripping your arms off).
And it is a bit rowdy (some would say angry).
Yes, the S1000XR is completely and utterly daft.
Which is why I’ve got one and why I love it so much.
Yup! I agree. I've got the Triple Black and it makes me smile every time I ride it.
Precisely. On my second one now, and I reckon about 12 months away from my third, unless the V4 Multistrada is spectacular.
Thank god for that last line
It's why I ride a 'Busa. Utterly bonkers power, unusable for mere mortals like myself, horrendous fuel economy, makes no sense whatsoever....but I love it.
The last sentence was quite a surprise.
Thanks for the review TMF confirming I have done the right thing ordering my TE version! Incidentally it's possible to bring that model to well over £15k if you throw enough accessories and extras at it. If you are of a sensitive disposition look away now as here are examples of a few of the accessory prices:
Colour matched panniers (without liners): £711
Colour matched top case (without liner): £460
Tinted tall windscreen: £206
Engine bars (front): £356
Aux lights: £529
Rear rack (reqd. for top box): £213
A couple of commentators have mentioned the poor back brake (not really a huge issue but I blame Bybre) and my only other minor gripe is that it would have been nice to have the tank at say 17 litres as BMW are clearly after a slice of the adventure market.
Worth mentioning also that the lowest 775mm option requires a factory lowered frame and you have to forfeit the electronic suspension as well as the centre stand.
As well as the pre-load adjuster you pointed out there is a screw adjustment for damping I seem to remember.
I was idly wondering whether the Chinese-made engine might cause supply difficulties to Berlin (Corona virus etc) where the bike is assembled.
From the US so like all your vlogs really appreciate the scenery along the way. Great road and homes along the river. Then had to pause to look up Marlow and the Angler Hotel and learn about the beautiful church, and a bit of Hurley. A virtual vacation and BMW moto tour (great bike from Bahnstormer!) in 24 minutes - thanks mate! 🤪👌🏼✊🏻
Excellent! Thanks for watching and for your kind words....
This bike seems to be the do it all machine and it look bang on. You have done a cracking job with this review and you could not find anything much you did not like. I’ve been looking on RUclips for other people showing off this bike and thankfully now “you”. I thinking I might sell a couple of my bikes and buy one of these. Can’t wait for your long term review thank you TMF👍👍
Cheers Red Leader - stay tuned - more to come on this one later in the year....
Looks lovely, it's going to be a hit, I think BMW have done a great job. Thanks for the video!
My pleasure!
We live in an age where a 900 cc motorcycle is considered "cute and little". LOL
I know I know, I tried to stop saying that, my bad...
TheMissendenFlyer Well, you weren’t wrong about it in some ways. Keep up the great work!
got tegridy not much argument from anyone about that.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Well stop it then. I personally use my 125 around town, and love it. I don't need to, and am not allowed to, go over 50 mph anywhere in my city. So stop the big balls big bike nonsense. Unsubbed.
@@RTD553 PFFFT. Bye. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out!
If I wasn't a Tracer 700 owner already, I'd buy it this year. It's exactly my type of bike. Sporty but comfortable, especially for tall guys.
you can always sell and buy
I’ve been anxiously waiting your impression of this bike. Thank you! ...of course now I will be anxiously awaiting your review of the new Tiger 900!
And straight to the motorrad configurator to size one up. Appears to be yet another good all-rounder - the flow of new and improved models over the last four or five years has been amazing.
I see the new 2020 BMW have the same problem! The TFT gets blurry when get up to "Legal" speed..lol
Apart from the times he forgot
Don't worry, there is a nice clear screen shot a 22:26 ;-)
That white version looks delightful! Could be my favourite BMW! Years since I went to Marlow....what a lovely place. Anyway, nice review and have a good weekend!
You too Steve...
First time commenter
TMF, your review along with a couple others convinced me to order one. Mine will be red with the Select Package here in the US. Arrives in 5 weeks. Loved my test ride and the after 2 miles this bike felt great.
Enjoy Dan! ...and thanks for stopping by - what's kept you?
@@TheMissendenFlyer Have watched your vlogs for several years. Not a heavy poster so consider this influence you had on my purchase a supreme compliment. :-)
How do you like it so far? I was looking hard at the Tracer. IT's less $$ for sure apples to apples. Andy advice? I'm in San Diego fyi.
Sorry I can't help
Mine has yet to arrive. My order did not get produced before the factory shut down for covid. Mine has now been made and will arrive in early October. It will be a 2021.
Looking forward to your long term review on this model......interested! Thanks TMF!
My pleasure!
Great bike, really nice in red, excellent camera footage on your new phone. Perfect view of the bike. Great, informative, clear and helpful as always. Loving your vlogs. 😄👍
Thank you Gary - glad you think the new phone cam is an improvement, it was eye-wateringly expensive!
I’m loving your vids. Your review of the R1200RT really helped me decide that I want one as my first bike. Keep up the great vids :)
I'll do my best Kiel!
1st bike¿ that’s pretty serious
I was thinking the same thing
Pleased to meet you at Bahnstormer Mr TMF! A great discussion about bikes and planes, thanks for your time. Great review as usual :) G.
Great to meet you too George - get yourself that trial lesson ASAP!
@@TheMissendenFlyer thank you again TMF! Need to save ££ :)
Thank you for posting. First real person review I have seen of this bike . Sounds like a winner.
I think for the price these are used, it is great. Picked up a 21 TE with 6k, eveey option selected for 8.5k, 2 year warranty, and 2 year breakdown. I think for my first bigger bike from an MT07, it's going to suit me well.
Nice…
Great video again! I had a look at the F900R/XR today and I really like the looks, especially the XR. But I must admit I was a bit disappointed about the plastic fantastic look and feel of the grey/red panels.
My local dealer has a 2021 for a steal of a price. I wasn't planning on buying a bike this late in the season but after this review I am so very tempted. This seems like my ideal motorcycle.
I’ve had the S1000RR & currently have the S1000R. But even that’s a tad insane for touring. Hence I’ll pass on the S1000XR, but this 900XR hits the spot! Here in Australia we’ll only get the fully loaded version. I can live with that👍🏻😎 This’ll arrive in April here so I’ll definitely take one for a test ride. I’m still not discounting the Yamaha Tenere or the Husqvarna Norden 901! Yep these 2 are obviously more off road focussed but if I like the 900XR, I’ll take it! Good review Andy & hopefully in the UK your weather picks up for riding. Here now we are almost through the worst of summer & can’t wait for autumn!!!👍🏻😎
Don't forget the new Triumph Tiger 900.
Boz Yeah I gave it a look but not my style🤪 Plus I have 2 Trumpy’s already🤭
👍 Nice to see Marlow, got great memories of going there when I was a kid.
Great review, BMW have produced a good looking bike which will be entering a busy market.
Yes indeed sir ....nice review as always ....this could be my next addition to the garage as it ticks all the boxes for me ....was interested to hear your comment on the visor size being on the small side but there is a larger option ....I fancy long miles on it so wind protection a big consideration for me and also low seat height due to my short arse ..... Might hold off a year to see what unfolds regards teething issues and maybe by then get better deals on the go ( hopefully 👌) ....well done and keep up the good work sir 👏👏👏
Thanks for watching - will do....
Wait a year, maybr you'll grow like the magic bean.
Good review TMF, nice bike just sat on one in the dealers, agree on the seat but they do optional tour seats. Only downer for me is the small 15.5L tank.
I had a Triumph Bonneville (Sp?) back in the early 60s. I think it had about 40 hp. I was never disappointed with the power. Today bikes seem so crazy to me.
1961 Bonneville was 46 BHP. I fitted a remote diaphragm mounted Float Chamber, which gave an extra 1000rpm and around 112mph
Hey TMF! Enjoying my Tracer 700 having just completed my A2 in Jan! Love this BMW. I would logically be looking at a Tracer 900 in two years time but this is a very tempting alternative. Thanks for all your great, comprehensive and entertaining reviews. You were a great help in my choice of first bike!
Thank you Simon!
Snow drops are out !! spring is around the corner Daffs next. Looks a lovely bike to ride.Thanks for the review.
Yes one the snow drops start to appear there’s hope for us all!!
Got a test ride on one of these tomorrow Andy along side the R1250R. Saturday a ride on a GL1800 DCT Bagger. So many choices! Great video as always and what a lovely day for a test ride video...
Yes it's been gorgeous this week - I'm on the F900R tomorrow and the sun is going to be shining all day :0)
@@TheMissendenFlyer Might see you tomorrow then! We are seeing Sam at 1pm
@@TheMissendenFlyer BTW, your new iPhone 11Pro is sooo much better for the camera on video...
Nice vídeo, just can't decide between S1000XR and this one, what would you advice ? Thanks!
XR still a bit vibey for my liking - better bragging rights than the 900 though!
The best way to enjoy your videos is with a cup of tea and some classic pound cake. Good review as always Sir!
Nice review, thanks a lot Andy...! It's hard to make correct choice. I like this new F900XR but I am a bit "scary" about this engine : funny or boring. Some testers/riders said that this engine is a bit boring. I have to try it ASAP. 😉 I have had a Street Triple R 2013 and now an old R1200GS (2004). Hard choice to change my GS for this new XR900...
Compared to an old GS the engine is certainly not boring, compared to a Street Triple R...it is....
@TheMissendenFlyerTanks for your answer. The best way is to reach my BMW shop and try it.
I enjoy your content ,the first time impressions, the long-term reviews on a lot of the newer bikes and even your reading of the news. I think it would be super cool for you to ride some of the standout bikes of the early 2000s and the 90s to compare them to the current crop. I think you might be surprised at just how capable they are compared to the newer iron . They keep adding technology and complexity yet if you look at the zero to 60 and the quarter mile times they haven't gained much at all. Obviously there's a lot more to bikes than that it would just be cool to see.
Yes I'd love to do that Russell - there are some practical and logistical issues however....
On a 310Gs currently as my first bike, definitely eyeing this up to move up on to
Great review. How do you compare this to the new Triumph Tiger GT Pro you recently reviewed? Thanks.
I agree with everything you say. 900cc is nearing the honey spot, 1000cc plus is way too much. Twin is better than four - less is actually more! Amazed to hear you describe a 4 in line bike [XR1000] as buzzy. I'm impressed, first time i think you never said buttery smooth. Shows you have some knowledge and integrity! Great review, it sounds a wonderful bike.
Try riding the Kawasaki Z900. That is buttery smooth and not buzzy. Twin is not always better.
@@fyorbane I test rode a Z900 and it's not buttery smooth. If you look at Google you will see that 4 cylinders is inherently rough. Go ride or drive a 6 cylinder and get back to me when you will know what smooth is. Btw, i never said that a twin was smooth.
Glad to see your review. My local dealer (BMW / Triumph) just got one in this past Saturday. It looked interesting. BTW, they got in 2 Rocket3's on the same truck, a GT & R.
Nice - if only a Triumph dealer would let me have a go on one!
Great piece, Flyer! I am somewhat intrigued by this machine. I'm not a huge fan of parallel twins (I prefer triples) but I still think it would be nice to give this bike a go and see what she's got. It's interesting, this move by several makers to introduce this 900 class machine. There are a few of them out there now. Better than the middle weights but still a reasonable alternative to the big bikes. Looking forward to the long term review later this year. Cheers!
I have 2015 VFR800F with 62k miles on and have been thinking of changing it. I have concluded that actually I will get another VFR800F when I change. My reasoning is that they are available new for £9500 and come equipped with heated grips and a centre stand. Add these to the BMW and it seems a larger screen then you are talking about £11k+. Do you really need power modes for a 100hp bike?
Do you really need them at all full stop?
Hi TMF thanks for another great review. I’m torn between the standard BMW F 900XR and a standard Ducati 950 multisrada. I’m not bothered about big speed, mostly all day comfort. Which is better in your opinion, please? Thanks Joc
Ive not had lots of experience with either bike, I do love the looks of the Multistrada but for me I think the BMW is possibly the better all round bike…..you won’t go wrong with either….
@@TheMissendenFlyer pretty much the answer I was looking for,👍🏼 thanks for your great bike views….keep up the good work
Great review as always Mr Flier. Having seen this I think I'm still convinced the tracer 900gt was the right choice. Such a flexible bike with great spec. 5k miles since July used in all weather and is faultless. Good mpg even when riding spirited, I have the front and rear suspension adjusted perfectly thanks to my dealer. I like the look of the BMW but you have to add so much to it the gt came pretty much as I needed everything. F850gt or a tiger 900 would be the only other bikes I think I'd look at now. Top review
Thanks for another great review, TMF, I’ve been waiting for this one. Hope you’ll do a long term review later on. It seems a fully specced F900XR will cost about the same as a Multistrada 950S in Norway, where I live. How would you compare the two?
I love the looks of the multistrada but it's way too top heavy for me - the Duke has that certain something but the Beemer is more practical (if less exciting/exotic)...
You should consider the new Tiger 900 GT or GT pro.
Trekky Delirium Yes, the GT Pro definitely also deserves a test ride. I ride a Triumph today - a Scrambler 1200 XE. Love it, but I’m interested in trying something a little more touring-oriented.
Frode Støle : Beware you could fall in love 😉. I cannot wait to see the reviews about it & to test one. Cheers.
@ 8.43-8.50 were you talking about yourself or the bike?. Tried the tracer 900 last year, might see if I can have a go on this one to see how they compare. Bet the Tracer will be a lot cheaper over here in Thailand though.
What do you think Andy, the BMW or Tracer 9gt, i went Tracer but it would be nice to hear your thoughts
Think I’d have the BMW
Thanks for another cracking video. I would love an R1200GS but it’s a bit tight and heavy to get down the side of my house to my shed. Would this be a good alternative and does it feel a bit narrower than the big GS?
Yes and yes!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Thanks for the quick reply! 165k subscribers and you still reply to most. Brilliant.
I’d go for the R1250 RS over this.Just love the boxer engine.Thanks TMF.👍
Always the most helpful and honest reviews , excellent job !
Thank you!
Thanks a lot for this highly expected review and thumbs up for the quick production.
As a road rider who loves the upright seating position of enduros I'm very keen on riding it myself. Considering also the very affordable price it could be the next addition to my garage. I'm not very happy with the colour range of red, light grey and yellow, I'd go for the red one, but with the higher screen. Can't understand why BMW didn't offer the popular blue-white-red hp scheme.
Yes that would look good - that white one I showed the picture of looked really nice in the flesh.....
Great review again Flyer. I'm considering going down the adventure tourer path now but just not really convinced by these smaller 900's. They just dont seem to look right to me. I test rode the 900 Tiger and was ok to ride but it just looks a little skinny and empty, will give the F900 a crack too and see...
Very nice bike and as always a great review! Thanks Andy, yours aye, Alan
This new XR is such a nice bike. I still love the styling of the f800gs / f850gs. Great video🥂
Always appreciate your vids. Any thoughts BMW F90XR vs Triumph 900 GT Pro ?
Both great bikes - I’ve a soft spot for the Triumph though....
Hi Andy, I’m looking to buy either this bm or the new 850 triumph sport. Any tips on which one would be much appreciated 👍
Came here from his other vid for the F990R as soon as he said the other one was a bit more upright.
I hate wrist pain, and I get it too much from lean-forward bikes.
Seems like quite a quiet bike when not being revved, which is a big, big YES for me. I spent the cost of this bike on a Yamaha Tmax 530 DX 18 months ago, and have put only 600 miles on it since then as it's so very noisy. Parallel twin? V-Twin?
New seat, higher screen, knuckle guards, grip-heaters, wife on the back (maybe)... Good to go man!
Nice vid, good review as ever 👍🏻 Liking the colours on this one. Maybe a slightly taller package and it’s quite a complete package
I've been waiting for your review and here we are! One question none of the other riders have addressed either though. Are there any vibrations in the bars, seat or pegs from that twin thumper??? That's the only thing that's stopping me going to order one tomorrow! What say you?!
No none that I noticed otherwise I certainly would have mentioned it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer nice one, thanks. Think you've just made BMW another sale......!
Good first look video TMF. Nice looking bike.
Omg I was waiting so long for this review! Thanks!
Sorry for the wait! I was as fast as I could be!!
TheMissendenFlyer its alright, but I will keep my r1200gsa way beter I think 🤔
Great vid saw this at the NEC and thought this could be my next bike just need you to try the new tiger 900 now so I can make my mind up
Yes I defo want to compare it to that - I was at the unveiling at Hinckley and it looks a great bike in the flesh....
Looks like a great bike. I will likely try a test ride on one in the spring. Dealers here in Canada do not typically have demo bikes but BMW travels around with a truck load of bikes offering demo days at the dealerships
Hiya TMF, Another great review, bike looks really good to me, but i bet that rear tyre soaks you on wet roads! seat ends over the rear spindle!.
Two questions for your Sir! 1. You have a bike with only a side stand, why do you always park with the bike in neutral? I only use neutral at traffic lights on the flat. Otherwise its in gear so I can use the clutch to control the speed moving in and out of the garage etc.
2. explore the facts for us = do you need to 'scrub' modern tyres in? No release compound from the moulds nowadays so why not just ride?
Looking forward to your reply!
Regards
Rog
1 habit 2 Yes, not as bad as it used to be...
It looks great but the Yamaha Tracer still looks like it better value and probably a better bike. Not much in it though.
Hi, Andy another brilliant review as always. Just wondered if you will be doing a review of the latest 2020 Benelli ktr 502 x bike as the only reviews available are from over seas and im seriously thinlng about getting one but i kind trust your reviews and would love to hear and see your opinionon that model.
If I am able to easily get hold of one would love too!
@@TheMissendenFlyer that would be fantastic. I look forward to seeing more in depth reviews. as I said your reviews and walk around are perfect as you have the straight talk no bull attitude which is needed as too many reviewers just try to upsell the vehicle's.
I love it! I have to get that promotion at work for a new bike.
Thanks for another great review TMF - all the best.
Always good to hear from you Bonny!
I enjoy these reviews just as they are, but . . . at the end, if there was a link to specs and (they always want more) a link to bikes already reviewed representing direct competitors
I’ve had one of these (after all) for the past 8 months. It was the best all rounder and practical bike I could get. I have the sporty red TE. The electronic suspension and quick shifter work well. The dynamic mode is like having a different bike if you want it. The three piece luggage is fine for tours. My Mrs is happy as a passenger/pillion. The main things I did change are to a MRA Vario windshield (took me 10 mins to fit) and a Wunderlich Queen seat for more distance comfort. I sometimes miss the retro bikes, such as Bonnevilles, or fancy the RnineT; but as a practical tourer this is fine. Also I prefer twin engines so this is a good option for me.
Nice one Pete!
How did you get on with the wunderlich queen seat? I’m 99% sure I’m going to buy this bike soon but have heard a lot of people complaining about the factory fitted seat, saying it’s too firm. Is the wunderlich queen seat comfy?
@@stephenashley9311 the stock seat is ok to get used to the bike. I splashed out on the Wunderlich Queen Seat for its pillion qualities. It’s not a soft cushioned seat, but it’s ergonomically better due to its construction and width. It’s very well constructed. As it is slightly wider i can feel it’s higher i.e. on the stock seat it is more comfortable to touch t( ground, but when moving with feet on pegs the Wunderlich seat is more comfortable. That means it is more comfortable on a longer journey. I’m told I can expect it to become even more comfortable over time. My wife hasn’t had much chance to try the pillion, but initially she can feel it is more comfortable and feels secure. I can recommend it, but as it’s not cheap i advise to get the bike first and get used to the stock seat before paying out. You can get one from Nippy Normans if you are in the UK. Good luck. It’s a good bike, especially if you like twins.
@@petewebb6952 thank you Pete. Very helpful. I will see how I get on with the stock seat first then. I haven’t had any experience with twin engines yet simply because I haven’t passed my test yet. I passed my mod 1 last week and I have my mod 2 on 19th April. All being well on the test I’ll be buying a F900XR 😁👍🏼
As always, a great review; thorough, entertaining and informative - I've been interested in this bike since it was first announced and hoping you would get to review it. Thank you so much!
It strikes me as one of the best all rounders that BMW have released in some time. Not too expensive, not too heavy, not too tall, commuting, touring, sports riding, adventure riding, - it appears to do it all with the caveat of not having the much vaunted "off road" capability.
True, it doesn't have the tele lever front end of a GS/GSA or RT, which enables ESA on both front and back, and chain rather than shaft drive - but it costs a lot less, weighs a lot less, and given the difference in weight v's power is probably not that far behind a GS/GSA/RT in outright performance.
Tellingly though, it has all the latest electronic safety aids such as ABS Pro for example, which could be a lifesaver if in a critical situation you should panic brake whilst leaned over, thus saving a low or high side accident and crash.
I do think the GS/GSA/RT are likely the better bikes overall than this new F900XR - but at significant extra cost.
However for what it costs, and what it offers, and if you have no desire to go off road other than on short distances of unmade road, it looks to be an exceptionally well rounded package and great value for money.
My local dealer whom I spoke to yesterday tells me these will hit the Australian market in April and arrive in a "fully loaded" specification at circa A$22,000.
Compare that to a fully optioned GS which comes in circa A$35,000, or a fully optioned RT which hits A$42,000 looking at the AU BMW configuration tool online, and the value both financial and in it's all rounder capabilities will likely ensure this will be a very popular machine.
Certainly I'll be taking a very interested look at one when they arrive.
Thanks again for the great review :-)
F900XR.com
Thank you for the comprehensive comment!
@@sv7017 many thanks for the link :-)
You should do a pound for pound best bike. I know you a big fan of the GS but what would you choose at a given price point? A lot people (like myself), have grew up the Bangernomics Philosophy, where we would rather buy used to buy a better machine. I'm talking cars of course, but if you had say £10k ish, whst would you buy with your money? Might add if you are an average, mature rider. Great channel, really appreciate the efforts you put in your videos
Good idea - cheers Craig!
First of all thanks you so much for your vids they are amazing and always great content, I never had a bike neither ride one but I want to get my A2 license before summer and honestly I’m in love of this bike!! Would you consider this bike as your first bike ever?
Well if you get the A2 licence version with reduced HP then yes, absolutely...
TheMissendenFlyer thanks for your reply! And ofc I would be A2 license version otherwise I couldn’t ride in Spain 😅 or anywhere else in Europe as far as I know
Great review, Informative and thorough.
Is it better than a 2020 Ninja 1000sx?
I've not ridden it so can't really say.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer okay.Thanks.
Mr Flyer, did you get one of these as a long term loaner? Got the s1000xr and am thinking of this change.
No I didn't.....
Hi TMF, questions
1. 14:08 why you're glad this doesn't come with keyless ignition?
2. comparison between single sided swing-arm and convention double swing-arm, which do you prefer?
Also please do a review on Triumph Tiger 900
1 - I don't like it 2 - SIngle sided - OK, lots of Tiger 900 videos coming soon, stay tuned!
Bearing in mind your experience with the rear shock on your GS, would you spec the electronic/dynamic rear shock and why were you glad to say that the demo bike didn’t have keyless ignition? Tia
Long term loaner, awesome 👍 looking forward to your review, I really like this XR, so fill me in on your thoughts please.
This was a brand new bike so seats will always be on the hardside. Over the years ive found that your body also adapts to the seat so its not always a case of wondering whether the seat needs upgrading, you need to bed in with the bike over a few hundred miles, more in some cases. I recall when i first starting riding my FZ8 and wasnt convinced by the seat but after around 500 mile my backside and hips began to become more familiar with the position the seat was putting them in. Currently looking into these sit up bikes that can do all, its a large sector when you consider the bikes available, from V stroms to even the ninja 650 and Yamaha tracers. An all day do anything sit up bike seems to be the way many are going now and the choices are fantastic.
Makes a lot of sense especially if you’re not into joining the GS club.......
Was looking forward for this review. Thanks!
Nice everyday bike, looks really good too.
Good review, thanks.
Fantastic review, nice to hear someone else say the 1000 feels angry, fun as it is I thought it only made sense when I was going at speeds which draw attention.
I bought the ex demo 900 from my local dealer and have done 3 things to improve the comfort, MRA Vario screen, re-padded seat and an unplanned one, a Non-GT spec rear Road 5 tyre because of a puncture... I have no clue why they chose to fit the reinforced GT tyres to a light bike like this but it made a difference for the better.
On the twisty back lanes the 900xr is very evenly matched with a friends V-strom 1000, it's more fun for me than my MK1 SuperDuke GT was, so for me it's perfect.
Glad we concur! Thnaks for watching!
Screen blast hmm, I truly truly believe, whatever size screen a manufacturer could put on a bike, the tester /vlogger would say "screens a bit low".
Bikes are breezy things!!!!
Excellent review, good to be back in Bucks!! Can't say I like the gold struts though, prefer them to match the frame. But other than that it looks great!
Really like the looks and it looks a balanced bike ,I will be giving this some consideration when I'm due to change bikes .cheers Andy
How many speed cameras did you pass? Great bike, great vid
Err, I wasn't looking - did I pass some?? :o0
Rode one last week whilst my R NineT was in for a service, it was the TE Spec Version, i actually enjoyed riding it
Hey Mr FLly, what about those tyres? I have them on my r1150r and I am super happy.
Why are you glad to say it doesn’t have a keyless ignition, I thought they were becoming all the rage. Another great video. John in Sooke BC
I just bought an F850GS, I chose a model without Keyless Ride... I wanted a standard keyed ignition. 👌 Just personal preference for me.
I just think keyless is an answer to a to a question no one asked and has the potential to go wrong....plus there are security implications.
As always, a great review. Thanks. I had been thinking of a Tracer 900 GT. This looks more suited to what I do. The GT has the cases but they won't even hold a helmet.
I have the 900gt consider a kappa rack and box a cost effective addition. Having seen this I won't be hanging up my tracer keys it's a flexible bike great for touring and commuting I use it all year round nearly 5k miles since July and love it. I'd take both for a test ride and see what u think
Like a lot of things in life, you make your choices.
For someone who doesn’t want a cramp riding position, is fed up with sportsbikes being so focussed, but also doesn’t have multiple bikes, the Xr1000 is a sportsbike which is comfy which you can tour on and will take decent luggage.
Very true....
The F900XR or the Tiger 900 GT? - for commuting in and out town with some soft touring on back roads
Tiger 900 would be my choice but both excellent bikes and you won’t be disappointed with either….
That's a seemingly fun good looking well featured (in the upscale trim) and not overly expensive. BMW - kudos.
Great review.
I might buy one of these.
Rode one today. Nice engine, the TFT display is lovely but that seat is dreadful. Painful from the off . But the worse thing was the absolute road filth both the bike and my back was covered in my the time I got back from a wet testride. That rear end offers no protection at all
Looking forward to the long termer👍👍The seat's okay, you're just lost a lot cushioning off the bottom 😀
I'm glad you noticed! ;0)
Lovely review! Best material out there! Iknowvyoure not taken with Moto Guzzi but would you consider doing a long term with a V7 III? please? :)
I test drove one yesterday. I guess if you like the way BMW parallel twins vibrate, which I don’t, it’s pretty decent... Anyway, really good ergonomics, crappy windshield with great adjustment system, super strong brakes that make the forks dive a lot, rev it to get power, and it averaged ... 36.1 mpg [US] - oh and the mirrors vibrated like crazy, which is weird given TMF’s comments
Your experience was very different to mine!
Better than tracer 900??
More stability front suspension??
Dinamic esa is good??
I preferred it to the Tracer (which is also a great bike) yes - just felt a bit less flimsy to me....
Great review, thank you. Having just returned to riding again I was instantly taken by the looks of the F900XR and ordered one last November. So pleased your review confirms my initial rash order was a good decision. I pick the white bike up shown in your video this coming Friday. The white bike is the TE model with Comfort pack, headlight pro, TPC and emergency control, in all the package came in at £12K. The TE version adds cruise control and electrics for satnav plus a few other smaller items. Well worth paying the little extra for the TE. New subscriber.
Hi Dave - what the white bike is your actual bike at Bahnstormer’s??? Cool!! Lovely looking machine....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes. It arrived two weeks ago, have to wait until 14 Feb to pick it up according to BMW as they have restricted official launch until then.
Hi Andy, would you swap the gs for the XR?cheers
Probably not.....
Great looking bike ....... But 15 litre tank on what should be a great touring bike, what were BMW thinking ?
Yes that is a bit on the small side I agree....
TheMissendenFlyer It is a shame as everything else is great including Mitchelin Road 5 tyres in my view my favourite tyres by far