CFMOTO ZForce 950 UForce 1000 CForce 1000 Engine Teardown
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- Опубликовано: 1 фев 2023
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Today we are going to Teardown a CFMOTO Engine This engine applies to CFMOTO ZForce 950, CForce 1000, UForce 1000. Lets take a peak inside and see why it Locked up and can we repair it?
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💯 💯 thanks for Tuning in my friend.
Great video man
Love the channel Mate! Aussie here!
Man you have everything I need on your videos 🙌🏼🙌🏼
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Very educational...thanks!!
Your welcome 🙏
I will catch you next live stream , thanks to you I bought the overland 1000 to go along with my Z950 sport. Keep on Rocking my friend!
Awesome to hear 👂 thank you 🙏
@@R.N.GPerformance I'm hoping you get the clutch kits in soon, your the best!
Hell ya borther this is the content I'm here for
Hell yes.
Awesome video. 👌
Thank you 🙏
Great manual - God bless you
Thank you 🙏
Finally a video I was waiting for. Thank you. I have a request though, is it possible to get more close up shots like the one on 14:10 mark? I know it is a lot more camera work, but is so nice seeing all the engine guts.
We will be doing a more up close video here soon.
Good find on the loose rod cap
Definitely 👍
Thanks for the excellent video Steve. Is this a similar configuration to the '21 800 motor? Looking for the oil relief valve... 👍
Hey, can do you a lot more coverage on the cam shaft swaps??? I would love to know if that could help a 2020 Z950 sport....Thanks... Also can wait to see the turbo install stuff...that should be really awesome.
Drove a Pontiac 3.1 for almost a year with water in the oil...no isues at all
i'm not a cf moto owner (can am and honda) but you are very entertaining to watch.
Thank you 🙏
Well, Jay. That sure sucks. That just forgetting to tighten a couple of bolts. Cost you? Getting a new engine. Thanks for a great video Steve.
Accidents happen unfortunately. Your welcome 🙏
happy birthday Stevo
Thank you sir.
I'm new to the CFMoto world and SxS so I found this video very informative. Thanks!
I have been wanting to see what a V belt drive looked like so this video was a great help. It would be great if you could show the split case and explain how a wet and dry clutch differ and the advantages and disadvantages of each.
I have a 2022 ZForce 800EX made in August 2022 and was told it has a dry clutch. My understanding is that engine was always a wet clutch until mid 2022 production. I have not found an explanation for the change.
Yes CFMOTO changed it. Your unit now resembles this block.
My uforce 1000's engine doesn't look so complicated anymore. Looking forward to a transmission inspection / cleaning video.
Very easy for sure. Might tear in to the transmission this week also.
Having a bushing style bearing is actually preferred for a turbo application as a roller bearing cannot contain crankcase pressures that are increased by boost. Also every car out there has a normal insert bushing for the crank. Roller bearing don't exist on cars for main bearings. Also it's the microscopic layer of oil on a bushing type bearing that is the bearing 😊 . I'm also curious what type of bearing you feel they should use? It's a pressurized oil system and needs tight clearances fpr proper oil pressure. That's why 2 stroke utilize roller bearings for the crank as they do not have a high pressure oil system. In my humble opinion
"That's why 2 stroke utilize roller bearings for the crank as they do not have a high pressure oil system." I was with you until there. A two stroke uses the crank case as an intake tract. When the piston comes down it decreases the size of the crank case, pushing air/fuel into the combustion chamber via ports in the cylinder walls. A common reason for a no start is the loss of seal, ie. not being able to pressurize the crank case. They use roller bearings yes, but having a crank case that won't hold pressure is not a result of that. Two strokes still need to be able to pressurize the crank case, roller bearings or not. While a 4 stroke will run with a leaky crank case, a two stroke won't even start.
Are you in the northeast? I'm new to the channel and see you've been to some New York events. I'm a half hour north of Syracuse and looking for someone to rebuild the motor in my 2016 zforce 800ex, just got it with 850 miles and it has a hard knock. something I could do myself with the help of your videos but would like to have someone who knows them well like yourself go through it.
Hello, I like your videos very much. Thank you. I have a CF 625 engine, but it is very difficult to shift gears. What should I do? Can you give me some advice?
Don’t forget to grease your muffler bearings and top off the blinker fluid
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Hello, thank you for this very clear and detailed video. I would like to know the weight of the motor and transmission. Does anyone have this information?
Valve covers make the best bolt trays
Don’t they do
Can yo show the crank Journal and bearings on the loose Side
im trying to get my side cover off and it aint budgin and i dont want to brake it, is the bearing in the center pressed into the cover? i even heated the cover around the dowel pins................. stuck
With the motor being v twin can you get more power then the same size on a inline motor. By keep up the videos love watching them!!!
I doubt it but we’re going to see what’s possible for sure.
Awesome video i love it!
I finished my first 700 miles and my dealer don't want to check the valves because he never had to adjust something.
What do you think? Should i change the dealer? Please tell me your experience
I never mess with the valves unless your having issues.
Hello, what was the reason for the crankshaft failure and what was the engine mileage?
I've bought a CFMOTO zforce 800 ex engine as a spare engine for my zfore 800 ex UTV. It is supposed to have a broken drive shaft and would need to be rebuilt with new rod bearings and stuff (I guess). I have't picked it up yet but for 60 US dollars (yes SIXTY for an entire engine) I couldn't let it pass. Will pick it up myself in about 4 weeks time to reduce the risk for further damages. My plan was to pick parts from it if ever needed - but would it be possible to rebuild it to working condition? How much will I have to invest in parts? Would I be able to do it myself?
Hi. Im working on a cf520 for a friend. The engine is sounding strange and died after a while. Im having truble removing the "inner disc" of the clutch. Need to remove this to split the engine. Do you have any tips?
If you're doing just a top end on one of these 1000cc engines from CF Moto, how do you keep the timing chains in place on the crank so is not to mess up the timing when you're putting it back together?. I have a 22 C-Force overland that I'm going to have to re-ring due to dust intrusion. Thanks! Thanks for the great content!
Thank you 🙏. You will have to re time it. Your going to want a book because timing these engines are a little different.
I have the CFMoto service manual. So I take it from your reply I need to plan to remove the covers on both sides for crank access to retime it when I go back together?
Hello old friend! I own a zforce 1000, 1st gen. Due to plain shaft bearing being worn, i had to crack open the engine! Replaced everything, put the engine back on, it starts, but it starts in only one piston, the one from the back of the. The front piston, from the cabin, blows unburnt fuel out of the exhaust, and i can feel a lot of gas smell. While pulling the spark plug out of the engine, i saw that it sparks only when the engine starts, then it stops. I have no error on the tester. I changed the spark plugs to each other, but the problem remains on that piston. I really don't know what can i do anymore...it got me out of my mind...
Do you got video of put it back together with the timming??
No sir unfortunately
You take any other engine apart Yamaha Polaris Can-Am Arctic Cat tell me if you see much of a difference if anything you would probably see cheaper parts In some of those other named Brands. Polaris 👀
Your right for sure. I’ve seen my fair share of cheapness lol. I really do like how these CFMOTO engines are built.
8mm bolts on most of the engine and the other ones looked like a 10 or a 12mm. Seems small for an engine. The 8mm at least. Very nice video though
That’s about normal on all the engines I’ve ever torn apart. I remember back in the day they were all frearson or flat head bolts on dirt bikes, ATVs, Motorcycles etc. thank you 🙏
Can the top end be done with the engine in the frame? I have a overland 1000 needs rings. Thanks!
Yes
Great vids steve.i'm new to the cf world,I bought a used 2015 zforce 800 ex not running,found timing chain on #2 jumped,retimed it after starting it I noticed oil light blinks all the time and just before muffler it gets red hot ,it also idles very rough, any advice would greatly appreciate it, when are you going to rebuild the 950 ? Thanks
I think this motor needs too many parts to rebuild however I’m planning on taking parts from this to build the cforce 1000 engine. Check the valve lash.
@@R.N.GPerformance thanks Steve appreciate it
is it complecated? i need to rebuild my engine please. can you Help.
That tear down answered a question for me. My 950 is dumping tranny fluid from the bottom of the block. Wasn’t sure if there was an actual gasket or not. For some reason my gasket failed.
Now you know it’s super easy to repair too.
@@R.N.GPerformance I took it back to the dealer to have done. Didn’t really know what I was gonna get into lol.
@@drewswigart1257 right.
@@R.N.GPerformance I know I’m not the only one with that issue. It looked like a decent quality gasket.
@@drewswigart1257 allot of times it’s just those little bolts that come loose and you can just tighten them up. CFMOTO use’s really good gaskets.
How do you remove the inner pully off of crankshaft so you can split the case apart
You need the clutch puller. We stock them www.rngperformance.net
Hello I'm working on a cf moto ex899 g force. The issue is that it won't stay in high gear. Does the case have to be split. Is it the shift fork
Yes
Its ktm motor on twins n bosch motor on single cyl
I really don't think that bearing is going to suffer from a little boost. Make sure everything is balanced to avoid any deflection and give her 5psi. Fuel and tuning would be the critical factors. Possibly have to borrow a map sensor capable of providing a positive pressure reading. It's a basic 5v sensor signal at the end of the day. I have been pondering the idea. My problem is that I only have 16 miles on my overland. Do I want to light my warranty on fire? Maybe. 😀
Lol. I’m sure it would take 5psi but 5psi isn’t fun lol
@R.N.G Performance 5 psi would be an additional real world 24hp. That's like strapping a cforce 500 on the back! I'm honestly thinking of going electric. TorqAmp possibly. Would easily make 5 psi on demand with our small displacement engines. Would be relatively safe as well. No oil lines. Less heat. TPS activated. You should see if they would donate one to the channel! I think alot of ppl would donate to design a kit. I would.
@@seamonsterco7570 those things are cool. But we don’t have the charging system to keep up with it.
@R.N.G Performance It has a standalone lithium power supply. 48v. You could charge it with as little as 1 amp. Obviously the more current available, the faster it would charge.
Is that a wildcat shirt? Could you replace a wildcat 1000x engine with a cf moto? Just asking cause the 13.5 to 16 have the case issue.
Yes it is. I doubt it buddy
I'm going to rebuild my 800 I'm wondering if the engine rebuild kits on ebay from china are original equipment or not or if you would recommend them the price is good
I’ve heard of people using them. But I haven’t.
Any chance you can make a video on how to change spark plugs on CF Moto ZForce 800?
Yes 🙌 I already did. Search valve adjustment it comes right up
In MT, and don’t trust the local dealer. Have a MC / ATV mechanic shop here in town. So, I planned on using them - although they aren’t CFMOTO gurus. MY QUESTION: Should I buy a specific CFMOTO book to make life easier for them (in the event I have an issue). If so, what do I buy for a 22 Overland?
You would just need the repair manual
Hello friend, what caused this problem?
We're can I buy parts for 950cc engine ?
When is the reassembly video coming out?
Soon as I get parts my friend. I’m waiting on something special.
@@R.N.GPerformance I enjoyed the video, having done a recent tear down of a 2015 800 ex, but like you, I’m still waiting on a few parts before putting it back together.
so how many hours on this engine. Bushing in place of bearings. Are there aftermarket real bearings? I'm questioning this vs a can am for about 7K more. But if the reliability and repair costs might outweigh the differential. What about the drive line and wheel bearings?
N/A on miles. But yeah I my self would like to see real bearings also.
Can help me to timed a CFmoto v twin cylinder
Cf moto v twins are very similar to can am Rotax very twins.
Very very close
Engine looks a lot like a Can Am engine. Like, spitting image besides the belt box.
It’s close
What are the reason why this kinda motors broke?here in Finland i heard that many motors get jammed😮thx 4 good vid,😊
I show the reason. The rod.
What was the initial cause for the Motor to be rebuild the first time did he run it to hard or got water in it?
Здравствуйте,какой пробег двигателя и какая причина поломки коленвала?
Ur thoughts??? 800 or 950. Which is a better more bulletproof motor?
Basically same motor. Only difference is the stroke.
How do u get the sleeve clutch apart
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Where Is a good place to order a whole rebuild kit? Crank and all?
I can get that stuff. I even stock the gaskets. Www.rngperformance.net
@R.N.GPerformance might be sending a message. Found one with a engine knock. Trying to figure worst case on fixing i5
What's the plastic gears driving oil pump? I hope they do a upgrade plastic gears could break easily
Older Kawasaki Vulcan s had plastic gears for the oil pump and would break and trash motors
Oil pump. These gears don’t fail very often and if they do and your oil light comes on shut down your motor and it will love to see another day. Broken pump gears don’t trash motors. People who don’t pay attention to their dash warning lights trash engines. Plastic gears are used in many many engines and for the most part out last steel counterparts.
Hey
How did you get the primary clutch off the crankshaft?
It was already off when I got it. But you need this puller here. amzn.to/3Jzut59
Здраствуйте .подскажите cf 625 2022год .пробег 1000км плохо стал заводится.насос работает ,прокачиваю насос два раза и после этого пробую заводить но также плохо заводется рывками .
Any helpful tips on a zforce 950 that won't go into 4wd? Machine has 200 pampered miles
Check the plug on the front actuator
Hola amigo vivo en houston tengo un motor de estos y no se cambiar las hojas en las que corre el crank shaft podrias ayudarme
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Is this engine similar to the 800ex ?
Yes. Very similar
I have a 600 rancher. I took the water pump off put it back and the shaft slid back. Can you help me with this problem
I don’t work on those I’m sorry
I bet the guy that donated the engine feels a bit foolish or pissed at himself after seeing this video. But that stuff happens when you rush through assemblies.
He is a little upset But he knew they were rushing because they had a ride coming up.
MLS gaskets are reusable?
Not technically. But this engine was built ran for 5 mins then took out. The gaskets are like new not even a scratch I could most likely get away with reusing them lol.
@@R.N.GPerformance oh okay. So they didn't even have a heat cycle through them yet. Yeah I'd probably reuse them too and just torque it down couple more pounds.
How to contact you??
Www.rngperformance.net
hes dont forgot nathing to tighten these china crap engines got this problem since launch that rods get loose by time you use that engine
Agree, I think he did tighten the rod bolts. They loosen up all by themselves in the motor which is an unbalanced quivering vibrating hunk of a shaking mess.
Is a engine that's had all the coolant and then some ran through it until it stalled worth rebuilding?or buy a used one for3k? My cousin's I think water pump seal went out and the rad it packed with oil and the engine drained coolant then milk shake after. It's a2020uforce 1000.
Can you change the head gaskets with out pulling the engine in a Zforce 800EX?
Yes
@@R.N.GPerformance Thank you for the reply. I am not sure if I have a bad gasket or not. I thought I had coolant in the oil. Now it appears to be gone. I did four oil changes and ran it about 45 minutes after each change. The real watery oil is now gone. I did use 10w 30 and not 15w 40 like the owners manual said. Long story short after four changes with 15w 40 I ran it for an hour last night and did one more oil change. It's looking normal again. So is it possible that the 10w 30 that I used became real runny? I probably ran that oil for at least two maybe three months. Lots of real short runs and a lot over the cold weather. My neighbors thinks I got condensation in there.
Hi. Im working on a cf520 for a friend. The engine is sounding strange and died after a while. Im having truble removing the "inner disc" of the clutch. Need to remove this to split the engine. Do you have any tips?
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