The young men (and they were indeed young--even the skippers) who went and fought in these "machines" could never have imagined that in 2019 many of us would be binge watching this series. Hokey and wooden that it is, there is an underlying story of ardent warriors in these episodes. I can hardly imagine what it must have really been like--the eagerness to do battle mixed with the foul and putrid confines of these subs. The cool and measured tracking of the enemy punctuated by the terror of being hunted with depth charges. A special breed indeed to go back and patrol again and again. I wonder how many of these men suffered some type of PTSD? Being depth-charged had to be beyond traumatic no matter how brave one was.
They couldn't imagine people watching this in 1957 from their homes let alone using the internet to watch it in the early 2000's. An interesting survival epic from those early days in the Pacific War in WWII was the USS Marblehead. ruclips.net/video/Tb9h5bU8Dwk/видео.html
Her keel was laid in 1918 meaning the old girl was completely obsolete by 1941. Still, she performed well during the Philippine campaign (see Silent Service; the ordeal of the S-38), successfully bombarded a Japanese shore installation, rescued all of those British sailors and finally sank an enemy transport while damaging another before finally going to Australia for a much needed refit. I'd say for one of the 'senior citizens' of the fleet the S-38 earned her place in history.
Just one very small blooper. When the S-38 encounters the British sailors in the water and the captain orders "gun action" they show two sailors carrying .30 caliber M1 carbines. Although development of a 'light infantry rifle' began in 1938, the M1 carbine design was not approved until October of 1941 and was not initially issued until August of 1942, which would have been after this incident. Also, the standard 'small arms' used for 'gun action' aboard submarines during WWII was the 30-06 caliber Browning Automatic Rifle, adopted in 1918, a harder hitting, longer range and more accurate select fire rifle.
God Bless Them................ over 90 men crammed into an S-class boat..... dodging the enemy......loaded with wounded. *Salute* TRUE HEROES the likes of which we so seldom see these days EXCEPT for our brave men and women in Uniform.....Truly...........the GREATEST GENERATION indeed!
The crew of the s class submarines fought two wars at the same time the first was there own submarine equipment braking down every hour and the second the Japanese.They sleep on canvas hamocs.There was no air conditioning so the heat got up two 110.
Also, Lord Melbourne was important in Queen Victoria's court, and his son had intrigue involving Lord Palmerston,so son may have been famous for that , so that an educated wealthy man may have heard about it. and the tall actor with full beard seemed to have Australian accent
Thanks for this film.. had not known about S-38 and HMS Electra The comment by Exec. about hope for a victory during the ABDA era is spot on! Early war M1 Carbines. on an S-Boat during on FEB 28, 1942 nope, M 1903 "Springfield" and M-1918 "BAR" At least the S-Boat's had torpedo's that would explode if they hit.. more often than not
That night, about 0235hrs. in the morning of 28 February, 54 survivors of the 173 men on board were picked up by the United States submarine S-38, and were taken to Surabaya. When the submarine surfaced in the middle of the survivors, they were not sure if it was friendly or enemy. One of the survivors recognised the submarine as being friendly, because it had an 'Admiralty' type anchor; and at that time, only United States submarines still had this type of anchor. One of the survivors died on the submarine on the way. After treatment in a Dutch hospital, 42 survivors were taken to Australia by the inter-island steamer Verspeck, where they arrived on 10 March. One more survivor died at the hospital, and 10 others in critical condition were left at the hospital.
What a great story. If you're interested, Hoyt wrote a book about Bowfin and Captain Beach wrote a book called Submarine! These are based on war diaries of US submarines during the War. Great reads about America's heroes. Iron Coffins is also well written and is about German subs in WWII.
What guts to have manned these old “S” boats. When brand new they were inferior to the boats built in the late 30’s and later. 20 years of interwar neglect, plus salt water service, must have left them barely tolerable.
Ironically , it was going to be first get fresh air from the bleed... Remember the instruction to bleed ? Remember how they said the engines intake will suck.. no no such thing as suck ... reduce the subs in internal air pressure allowing atmospheric pressure to drive air into the sub..
I have to ask, is this a true story? A submarine just happens to be on the surface and just happens to be in the right spot with people on deck to hear someone call for help? Incredible...... And yes I do believe it could have happened. Just over a year ago a women in Santa Monica went for a late evening swim. The currently pulled her 3 miles off shore where 12 hours later a guy who just purchased a sail boat spotted an arm waving in the water. She was saved as well. Incredible
Crew from a Royal Navy destroyer - and S38 is rescuing them - and she will gain a commendation from not just US command but from British Command as well! Two commendations as well! It would not surprise me that this rescue operation formed the basis of rescue missions later in the second world war!
On 28 February 1942, the S-38 pickup 58 survivors of the HMS Electra, a UK E-Class destroyer sunk the day before, during the Battle of the Java Sea. The normal complement aboard the S-38 was 44 officers and men. She successfully off loaded the British sailors to a friendly surface vessel on 1 March 1942.
S-Boats had 4" single purpose, some were removed and put on newer fleet boats which had 3" at the first part of the war. I had not really studied the WW I era guns much but got interested after reading "The Destroyer Men" sci-fi books. It seems a lot of 4" guns on the old 4 stack DD's were pulled and replaced with 3" Dual Purpose guns the 4" were then often put to use on armed freighters and other lower priority ships One oddity was the Mk 14 mount on USS Stockton a DUAL 4" navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_4-50_mk9.php
The use of old ships shows why it is imperative that the navy stop scrapping old ships that work fine. They should use them while new ones come in ,especially since many new ones have less firepower to save money
There's no words of all of these men, I weep sincerely for my father suffered dearly when is ship was sunk and was rescued! I pray with our country becoming more weak with this asshole as president ( stolen ) we never forget all who fought from the beginning of our established country and constitution I will be in my forefathers footsteps, I will die for my country and my rights!!
What I love about these videos is it reminds me when the US was, you know, United.
Unbelievable, we are so lucky to have Americans like this. 🇺🇸
The young men (and they were indeed young--even the skippers) who went and fought in these "machines" could never have imagined that in 2019 many of us would be binge watching this series.
Hokey and wooden that it is, there is an underlying story of ardent warriors in these episodes. I can hardly imagine what it must have really been like--the eagerness to do battle mixed with the foul and putrid confines of these subs. The cool and measured tracking of the enemy punctuated by the terror of being hunted with depth charges. A special breed indeed to go back and patrol again and again.
I wonder how many of these men suffered some type of PTSD? Being depth-charged had to be beyond traumatic no matter how brave one was.
They couldn't imagine people watching this in 1957 from their homes let alone using the internet to watch it in the early 2000's. An interesting survival epic from those early days in the Pacific War in WWII was the USS Marblehead. ruclips.net/video/Tb9h5bU8Dwk/видео.html
I cannot imagine!
They are/were tougher than our current batch of young men.
Her keel was laid in 1918 meaning the old girl was completely obsolete by 1941. Still, she performed well during the Philippine campaign (see Silent Service; the ordeal of the S-38), successfully bombarded a Japanese shore installation, rescued all of those British sailors and finally sank an enemy transport while damaging another before finally going to Australia for a much needed refit. I'd say for one of the 'senior citizens' of the fleet the S-38 earned her place in history.
Just one very small blooper. When the S-38 encounters the British sailors in the water and the captain orders "gun action" they show two sailors carrying .30 caliber M1 carbines. Although development of a 'light infantry rifle' began in 1938, the M1 carbine design was not approved until October of 1941 and was not initially issued until August of 1942, which would have been after this incident. Also, the standard 'small arms' used for 'gun action' aboard submarines during WWII was the 30-06 caliber Browning Automatic Rifle, adopted in 1918, a harder hitting, longer range and more accurate select fire rifle.
Wow! The keel of the USS S-38 was laid down 15 January 1919.
The submariners who crewed these old subs at the start of WW II had guts.
99 people breathing the air for 42. That's some rough stuff. It's not always about tonnage.
90+ men in a sub built for about half that number with 100 degree temperature. The stench must have been fierce.
God Bless Them................ over 90 men crammed into an S-class boat..... dodging the enemy......loaded with wounded. *Salute* TRUE HEROES the likes of which we so seldom see these days EXCEPT for our brave men and women in Uniform.....Truly...........the GREATEST GENERATION indeed!
The crew of the s class submarines fought two wars at the same time the first was there own submarine equipment braking down every hour and the second the Japanese.They sleep on canvas hamocs.There was no air conditioning so the heat got up two 110.
We are very quickly going to need an overdose of hero's like them.
Rear Admiral Thomas Duykers Retired correctly pronounced the name of the Australian city, "Melbourne". I'm impressed.
Sorry, no cigar for him, there is a city called Melbourne in Florida,USA, port city,probably had Navy facilities
Apparently named after the australian city.
Also,HMAS Melbourne .. ( various vessels with that name )
Also, Lord Melbourne was important in Queen Victoria's court, and his son had intrigue involving Lord Palmerston,so son may have been famous for that , so that an educated wealthy man may have heard about it. and the tall actor with full beard seemed to have Australian accent
Thanks for this film.. had not known about S-38 and HMS Electra
The comment by Exec. about hope for a victory during the ABDA era is spot on!
Early war M1 Carbines. on an S-Boat during on FEB 28, 1942 nope, M 1903 "Springfield" and M-1918 "BAR"
At least the S-Boat's had torpedo's that would explode if they hit.. more often than not
That night, about 0235hrs. in the morning of 28 February, 54 survivors of the 173 men on board were picked up by the United States submarine S-38, and were taken to Surabaya. When the submarine surfaced in the middle of the survivors, they were not sure if it was friendly or enemy. One of the survivors recognised the submarine as being friendly, because it had an 'Admiralty' type anchor; and at that time, only United States submarines still had this type of anchor. One of the survivors died on the submarine on the way. After treatment in a Dutch hospital, 42 survivors were taken to Australia by the inter-island steamer Verspeck, where they arrived on 10 March. One more survivor died at the hospital, and 10 others in critical condition were left at the hospital.
What a great story. If you're interested, Hoyt wrote a book about Bowfin and Captain Beach wrote a book called Submarine! These are based on war diaries of US submarines during the War. Great reads about America's heroes. Iron Coffins is also well written and is about German subs in WWII.
Beach also wrote Run Silent, Run Deep.
What guts to have manned these old “S” boats. When brand new they were inferior to the boats built in the late 30’s and later. 20 years of interwar neglect, plus salt water service, must have left them barely tolerable.
You got it.
"Take him to the engine room", that will bring him around. No, well I guess that was the only place left that had any room! Good to see they made it.
The fumes and the noise will do him good
Ironically , it was going to be first get fresh air from the bleed... Remember the instruction to bleed ? Remember how they said the engines intake will suck.. no no such thing as suck ... reduce the subs in internal air pressure allowing atmospheric pressure to drive air into the sub..
Every so often I loves to get my 'Subism' on! Like visiting an old friend!
I have to ask, is this a true story? A submarine just happens to be on the surface and just happens to be in the right spot with people on deck to hear someone call for help? Incredible...... And yes I do believe it could have happened. Just over a year ago a women in Santa Monica went for a late evening swim. The currently pulled her 3 miles off shore where 12 hours later a guy who just purchased a sail boat spotted an arm waving in the water. She was saved as well. Incredible
All the stories in this series are true. We even met the sub captain at the end.
@@andrewvelonis5940 Thanks for posting and your reply. Just 1 of thousands of survival stories from WWII.
Crew from a Royal Navy destroyer - and S38 is rescuing them - and she will gain a commendation from not just US command but from British Command as well! Two commendations as well! It would not surprise me that this rescue operation formed the basis of rescue missions later in the second world war!
The sub was older than the majority of the crew
On 28 February 1942, the S-38 pickup 58 survivors of the HMS Electra, a UK E-Class destroyer sunk the day before, during the Battle of the Java Sea. The normal complement aboard the S-38 was 44 officers and men. She successfully off loaded the British sailors to a friendly surface vessel on 1 March 1942.
I wish I could get my hands on one of those 3inch deck guns.
S-Boats had 4" single purpose, some were removed and put on newer fleet boats which had 3" at the first part of the war. I had not really studied the WW I era guns much but got interested after reading "The Destroyer Men" sci-fi books. It seems a lot of 4" guns on the old 4 stack DD's were pulled and replaced with 3" Dual Purpose guns the 4" were then often put to use on armed freighters and other lower priority ships
One oddity was the Mk 14 mount on USS Stockton a DUAL 4"
navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_4-50_mk9.php
Classic Stories
Heroes, indeed!
The use of old ships shows why it is imperative that the navy stop scrapping old ships that work fine. They should use them while new ones come in ,especially since many new ones have less firepower to save money
The US military needs independent thinkers such as Munson more now than ever before.
There's no words of all of these men, I weep sincerely for my father suffered dearly when is ship was sunk and was rescued! I pray with our country becoming more weak with this asshole as president ( stolen ) we never forget all who fought from the beginning of our established country and constitution I will be in my forefathers footsteps, I will die for my country and my rights!!
God bless you and your words.
Anti-democrats ,what sort though? Fascist ? Anarchist ??
Fate:
Sunk as a target by bombing, 20 February 1945
Brave men
The name isn't boy...it's Henry...Henry J Munson.
Henry Munson a relative
Music sucked back then!
Unwelcomed guests.