Lionel Messi's strange relationship with Saudi Arabia
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Lionel Messi is an icon. A footballing icon, and an Argentinian icon. He will be central to Argentina’s joint bid to host the 2030 World Cup. However his paid ambassadorship with Saudi Arabia will complicate things.
Why is his ambassador agreement with Saudi Arabia so controversial, why it is a conflict of interest, and why is it not what it seems?
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#Messi #WorldCup #VisitSaudi
The Argentina, Paraguay, Chile, and Uruguay bid is they only bid that makes geographic and cultural sense.
I can see Egypt and Saudi but Greece? 🤔 strange one.
@@Moemuntz it's geopolitical. All those three countries share is their rivalry with Turkey.
well since most of the world cups having been held in europe, most recently in russia, i can guarantee that with the success of Qatar, it'll will be held in Saudi Arabia and if people disagree, then stop accepting middle eastern oil and gas which your country relies on in order to keep already higher expenses even low. SaudiArabia will probably offer oil/gas deals to western governments for their support of the tournament and before you say that's illegal, well, the french promised their vote for the usa 2022 bid but qatar offered more to the french what usa could. so it's all fair as it's just good business that matters.
@@miraclemaker1418 oh good point did not know 😂 now a Turkey-Greece World Cup would be amazing. 2002 ended Korea-Japan hate/enmity. Never underestimate the power of football.
Not to mention, it's the only right one, the centenario world cup should be in Uruguay and Argentina at least
For 2030, I would like WC to be held in South America as it would be 100th anniversary from 1930, the year when it all began.
It belongs there for 2030 it should go to no one else but Uruguay and Argentina at least
Should be held in England
@@00dude3 nobody wants that
@@00dude3 yeah and be like the disastrous euro final 2020
When the host selection for the 1996 Summer Olympics rolled, many considered the snubbing of Athens in favour of Atlanta as very odd, considering that the first Olympics in their modern look back in 1896 were held in Athens and the US had hosted the Olympics 12 years ago. It turned out that Atlanta-based companies such as CocaCola (conveniently one of the sponsors of the Olympics) lobbied to the IOC for Atlanta to be given the hosting rights. This case shows that one candidate might be perfect for historical resons, but that is not always a sure thing. And to be honest it was excess to add Chile and Paraguay to the bid - Argentina and Uruguay on their own was fine
Unless the countries are really small, I don't agree with joint bids.
I love the World Cup host really selling their culture, their identity and having the World Cup as their own and keeping that as the theme of the Tournament.
Having a list of different countries hosting just feels like their culture is diluted.
It's a way to split the costs though. These things get very expensive...
I also prefer having only one host country, but it’s too expensive esp now that they’re rxpanding the participating countries. I still prefer two instead of four though.
Can you do a story why East African is so poor on developing soccer players or why countries from East Africa is not in major competition
That's a great idea! I'd like to hear that too. I imagine it's due to political or societal reasons. Is football popular in East Africa? I don't know, but it would be interesting to learn the reason why so few players come from that region.
@@funkrates4778 isn't it that Anglophonic countries have worse talent than Francophonic countries. Western half of Africa has got footballing culture whereas the eastern half is whack. Anglophonic countries usually do well in rugby and football
These condescending and low key racist comments got it all wrong, it has more to do with all the federations and football owners of the league are within that country. If both officials from the fútbol federations and the club owners are more concerned with pocketing investment $$ rather than investing into the infrastructure, like many federations below the top 20 of the FIFA rankings, than it's really up to the fans or someone within that system to care enough to make the proper changes to make a more competitive national league and national team.
@user-hn4io5or6k western imperialism and colonialism, sanctioning poor countries like Zimbabwe for example. They also creating ethnic conflicts/escalating ethnic divisions by supporting one over another like for example the TPLF against the Ethiopian,typical divide and conquer strategy in order to weaken a nation , also TPLF is a right-wing fascist org despite what’s western media are claiming otherwise as the West have historically supported right wing or prop up right wing/capitalist regimes to do it bidding, all for extracting wealth and resources and talents out of Africa, that’s how they’re still doing it till this day around the world. However they don’t have as much dominance like they used to have.
@@Kobe_Jay_Kenobii oh no I'm being serious. Also care to give examples of what's racist they said
the south american bid was the only logistically and geophrically viable bid. also, it would be symbolic, as it would be 100 yrs since the first world cup was held in 1930, which was hosted by uruguay itself.
Yeah but do they have oil money for the bald guy?
@@Mesjach It's actually not too far in travelling wise though. All of the main cities (Buenos Aires, Santiago de Chile, Asuncion, Montevideo, Cordoba) are within 2.5 hours by plane. Not as bad as the Brazil or Russia WC in that sense.
@@qprsuperhoops10 he meant if the south American countries have enough money to bribe infantino. Who will surely give it to Saudi Arabia.
@@StuttGooner i don’t think Asia can host another world cup
Too bad it isn’t economically viable. Paraguay is a very poor place with low development, African levels of poverty. Argentina is about to hit an economic meltdown thanks to decades of abysmally bad governments. And Chile and Uruguay aren’t exactly swimming in money either, both of these nations have unlaced roads as something normal.
Since the 2026 WC tournament will be hosted in Canada, Mexico and America, My city of Houston Texas will get to host some games. As for 2030 tournament the four South American countries should host it because the year 2030 marks the 100 year anniversary of the inaugural tournament. Argentina has not hosted a world cup since 1978 and I would like my cousins and fellow Argentines from my generation to experience their country hosting such a prestige tournament.
rigged
Tell Em! - a fellow Houstonian
Isn’t it Dallas where games will be hosted within Texas though?
@@caio5987 both AT&T and NRG will host games
@@caio5987both have been named host cities
I had been hoping for a Spain, Portugal + Morocco bid but UEFA didn't back it.
Bloody shame as Western Europe hasn't had a WC since 2006, Portugal has never hosted and Morocco has bid multiple times but come up short. As much as I love Ukraine, adding their name to the bid is just self sabotage.
Esp since Infantino is in Putin's pockets
The Ukraine addition is so cringe. It's so blatantly obvious to everyone that they're just doing this to get sympathy votes. Replacing Ukraine with Morocco would make so much more sense but UEFA is a greedy pig
So much travel is bad it should be in South America
The only way to offer some credibility to a Spain Portugal Ukraine bid is if Ukraine only hosts the third place game.
Ukraine isn’t going to be a country by then.
You'd think he'd had enough money
Messi is worth about $600 million he'll probably be a billionaire agree he definitely doesn't need the money LoL
The problem with being rich is you are surrounded by leeches who make you greedy
@@Model_Roe At the same time unless there are laws against keeping earnings once you reach a certain level of wealth, why not make as much as you can with your relevance. I personally would prefer that he didn't make deals like this and instead helped others with his wealth of course.
Isn’t Ronaldo trying to sign a $200 mil a year 2 year deal to play in Saudi Arabia 😂
@@phightinphil25 Why make as much as you can? What's the point?
Even his grandchildren couldn't spend all that money even if all they did was to throw the money out of the window.
Saudi Arabia last Monday: "We beat the world champions, surely there's merit to host the World Cup" /j
Seethe and cope indians lol. You weren't even in this world cup or any other. The audacity 😝
I heard Saudi withdrew to host the world cup in 2030
I won't be surprised if conspiracy theories comes up relating that Saudi vs Arg match with this all 😂
People love to bring conspiracy theories when they don't get what they Want to
You laugh, but there are many football fans that agree. Doesn't take much to chance their minds. It's not human rights its match results.
@@XoRvULtD Not true. They withdrew a striker not the bid.
one day someone will acctually reply to tifos emails 😭
The art and visuals here are better than ever!
Did unicef mention how many children died in Iraq and Afghanistan?
As the this is the centenary of the world cup, the Uruguay, Argentina, Chile and Paraguay makes sense. It has to go back to where it all started, Uruguay.
Holding a WC across multiple countries is ridiculous.
Qatar has shown that closer stadiums, training camps etc. is so much better for players and fans.
If that's the case why not copy the Olympics and just have one city and its region host.
@@phightinphil25 FIFA will make more money holding a WC across multiple countries.
Japan/South Korea was the pilot, we’ve had EUFA hold a Euros across Poland/Ukraine, then plan to hold Euro 2020 across the whole of Europe.
Qatar has now shown the model for a World Cup, even down to building a stadium from shipping containers that’s deconstructed after use!
The West wants to hate on Qatar, but this WC has been nothing short of perfect.
Canada and Trudeau? Mexico, USA - all these countries have their problems.
@@thomasrichards3760 Perfect is too strong a word. I am American so I am aware of our problems. I still don't quite get your point as Qatar was held in Doha and Lusail almost exclusively and those two cities are right next to each other proving how a city concept could work. I was favorable to the Benelux bid for 2018 or 2022. As far as Europe goes those 3 are on top of each other so having the players get from Amsterdam to Brussels isn't a problem. The problem with North America in general is its size but the US hosted in 1994 and is the main host this time (sadly).
But stadiums that close to each other become useless after the tournament. Plus they cost 4000 lives to build.
@@jeff-gj6en That figure is not true. Stadium wise, only England could host WC without building a stadium (50,000+capacity).
I think maybe maximum of 6 stadiums that a WC is played in.
Building stadiums for tournaments, that are then never used isn’t a new thing by the way.
South Africa 2010 was a total waste of money and did nothings for that country.
It seems majority want to find whatever criticism to find with Qatar, when in fact our countries are no better or even worse at times.
Qatar built a whole stadium with shipping containers that’s now being deconstructed.
Stadiums built for South Africa and Japan/Korea are just blots on a landscape.
A combined bid from Spain, Portugal and Ukraine? it doesn't; make any sense geographically
Would that explain Argentina's first match in this World Cup...?
(I am joking)
Wouldn’t be surprised
@@xyzjuan Nah I don't think so
By this logic, he is in PSG and World cup was in Qatar and he won
And Neymar is important figure of PSG but he was knocked out in QF
These are all conspiracy theories
Just being brand ambassador for money doesn't downgrade the talent and performance
I bet you haven't watched that full match
@@XoRvULtD Mbappe or Messi was a win win for Qatar, let's be honest
3 offside goals for Saudi was unsual
@@naheem extremely unusual
No one can question Messi's talent and football career, but his actions and character are questionable. It is sad that money always wins.
yes mr cr7 fanboy
why is it questionable ?
Character questionable??
Lmao you people love to blame anyone you don't dickride.
Messi is a good person, not Jesus or Buddha.
Let him earn some, he ain't robbing you.
I’m not sure you or I would do much different in the same situation
@@SongofIceandTea The video explained just that
As someone who’s from Saudi Arabia, I’m happy for the video you made :)
It has been the logic of geo-politics and sports unfortunately. Disguise heinous acts under the guise of multiculturalism and any kind of pushback is seen as either western intervention or racist(despite many of the criticisms happening in states outside the west)
How many non-western countries are criticizing them......the problem is that western countries are hypocritical about it
pushback against "heinous acts" would be fine if western countries were not already up to their elbows in blood, I am sure you will agree.
It is very hard for us in the middle east to stomach a lecture from the Europeans in particular about respecting human rights.
@@sturgeon2888 idk, most western countries are peaceful, have a high standard of living and are strong liberal democracies. The UK, US (if you want to call that a western democracy, I wouldn't) and, to a lesser extent, France are awful when it comes to global intervention, but most of the west lead by example and learn from their previous atrocities, which does give them the moral high ground against nations that still perform the same atrocities, and whose refugees all seek the west.
@@sturgeon2888 if the victims of human rights abuse come to Germany or other nordic countries for safety, that says something about the global situation. You don't see Norwegian native dissidents seeking refuge in Saudi for a reason.
@@sturgeon2888factos
Spain and Portugal would be smart to drop Ukraine and add Morocco. If they did so they may win the bid.
Drop Ukraine from the bid, I honestly almost cringed my face off when I heard the Iberians had done this extreme act of cheesy virtue-signalling.
But Morocco could host a group or two. It’s a nice place with plenty to offer visitors (unlike Qatar).
I've loved Messi for years, he's been my favorite player but his connection to these states & controversial figures just leaves a bad taste, and I fear he might do damage to his legacy in the years to come, and all for what, a few extra million bucks? He already has everything and all the money in the world. I always hoped he would emulate an athlete like Federer, such a clean figure with no controversial sponsors (that I can think of). I mean Federer is sponsored by Lindt chocolates lol & promotes Swiss tourism. I wish Messi would just promote more things in Argentina and be done with it.
Lindt profits from child labour in Ghana and Ivory Coast. Switzerland provides "financial services" to private individuals who steal public money from some of the world's most impoverished societies.
most corporations and democracies are evil
Pele had accusations that he took money intended to UNICEF (reported in 2020) as an example. I think a lot of people see these sporting greats as deities. They're as fragile and flawed as the rest of us, and if they're a footballer from South America, chances are they grew up in poverty and have a completely different set of values compared to many. Tennis, and especially in Europe is more middle class so its no wonder Federer has kept himself away from controversy. I'm guessing he had things in his life growing up that a lot of kids his age didn't.
Mate, this is obviously a propaganda video. This thing happened a months ago and it conveniently arose again when america and saudi are having a conflict with oil. And what does messi care about what other people from the west think? All that matters is that Argentinians love him. If someone can be easily be swayed by us/uk propaganda then I fear for this world’s future.
Just because they are muslim countries and they don’t go around invading other sovereign countries.
"Jeddah, a resort city on the Red Sea"... Really? It's a cool city, but also one of the oldest cities in Saudi Arabia, and it's 2nd biggest city.
The amount of Saudi accounts that cuss you out if you talk about another players’ greatness other than Messi makes this unsurprising lol
Ronaldo is more famous than messi in the Middle East especially Saudi Arabia. Thanks to Real Madrid links, which has more Saudi fans than Barcelona. And if he joins Al Nassr, he’ll be even bigger. Still won’t eclipse messi worldwide though.
Also the saudis: "where is messi?"
Eh, they're just dickriding. Guarantee they don't care about the sport unless he's involved
@@acacia8261 that's just banter, the same guy litterally wore Argentina shirt in the final
Nope it is expected regardless. But the advertisements surely increases the amount.
The 2030 World Cup HAS to happen in Uruguay and the final in Estadio Centenario.. the site of the first ever WC final 100 years ago! It will be poetic.
While the hypocrisy of westerners criticizing other countries governments is a topic which should be acknowledged and discussed, it does not excuse the human rights abuses committed by those governments like in Saudi or Qatar and they still should be called out on it
Westerners criticize their own governments continuously, so your criticism has no merit and lacks any understanding of the West.
@@funkrates4778 my comment did not address whether or not westerners criticize their own governments, rather I was addressing the issue inherent when one operates from a standpoint of moral or ethical superiority when engaging in discourse surrounding foreign governments or cultures, so I'm really not sure how the ability westerners have to more publicly scrutinize their own governments invalidates the point I made
@@sonny7194 You claimed that Westerners are hypocritical when criticizing other countries. I merely pointed out that Westerners are not hypocritical because they treat their own governments the same way. I'm still not clear on what is your issue.
@@funkrates4778 people from western countries have the ability to openly criticize their own governments, they do not do it more than people from other parts of the world because they are inherently ethically or morally superior but beacuse they have the right to do so without fear of reprisal or punishment from a government (whereas someone like Jamal Khashoggi criticized his government and was killed for it). I belive you may still be unconsciously operating with this morally or ethically superior mindset, of course I am assuming you are a westerner (as am I). Also in terms of my use of the phrase 'hypocrisy' I am not accusing tifo specifically of being hypocritical, but you cannot deny that many western media outlets are eager to critique world governments worldwide (often correctly) but consistently neglect or make excuses for the immoral and unethical actions of European or north American governments or societies
@@funkrates4778 no u don't ......you point fingers while your government do the very same things(ps everyone criticizes there own government)
Isn't Messi worth $600 million? He's already one of the world's richest athletes 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I really wouldn't think he needed the money
You would also think he was rich enough to pay his taxes 😂
Greed gets never satisfied.
@Netaji-The British Slayer that's why he joined PSG right
@@00dude3 Barca didn't sign him due to pandemic economic crisis. Casual
@@BeefTallowBoy I forgot there's only 2 clubs in the world...he chose whoever gave him the highest salary
I always wish the Tifo narrator would pronounce the club: "AL-MARE-IA" rather than "AL-MEIR-A"
Alternative headline: Messi ends Saudi-Qatar war 😂
Smoke less!
Where did you get this news from? A great news though, but we should check it's authenticity before cheering.
there we go Tifo going after middle-east again. you guys talked about how many kids died in Yemen, lets's see if you guys are gonna talk about how many people died in Iraq considering the next world cup is in America.
Both can be bad
@Sofus putting all the focus in a ridiculous way on one is the worst considering they're "journalists". but the bias is clear.
You can't just write articles on one side, then when asked about other like-for-like situations, you just brush it off with "both can be bad" when all the focus I'm seeing is emphasizing how bad the saudi, qatar, governments are, by demonizing them based on their mistakes redundantly.
I really can't see how both can be bad in this case when only one of both is getting all of the attention, almost.
Like one of them doesn't exist at all.
I wonder why this video wasn't uploaded before the world cup
i like how Hugging and shaking hands become a topic for destroying Messi legacy
He's literally taking money to back a rival of his own country. Surely that's enough to at least tarnish his reputation?
@@ChiChiChutes It's useless to try to reason with the fanboys, they're emotional not rational. Incapable of accepting the truth about their idols whom they perceive as pure and perfect.
For example I was a huge fan, not fanboy, of David Beckham but the guy lacks ideals or morals so I no longer am interested in him.
I still don´t understand why Ukraine is part of the Iberian bid.
Nice to see Messi is assisting in the sports washing
It would makes sense to hold the 2030 WC in Uruguay (as part of a joint bid) on the 100th anniversary of the first WC, which was held in Uruguay.
Skipping 2026 already lads? At least post a few football related videos before this one to hide your obvious agenda.
The host of 2026 World Cup is clear: US, Mexico and Canada. Why do you want explanation for something which already clear?
now cristiano its going to saudi arabia which makes me question what cristiano and messi gonna win with that???
Sports super stars signs deals with USA/UK/EU: nothing to see here...
Sports super star signs deal with Arab rich country: The strange relationship of x and y
Who tf is signing deals with the EU lmao y'all are absolutely disconnected from reality thinking countries buying people's loyalty is normal
@@1998Cebola Chris Hemsworth signed a deal to be Australia's tourism ambassador in 2018, that's a country buying "loyalty" or PR with a celebrity. We didnt see "Hemsworth's strange relationship with Australia" videos uploaded on RUclips.
My friend, I think you're the one disconnected from reality.
@@user-qx9zn2cj4e lol, Hemsworth trying to get people to fly to his homeland is a bit different to Messi potentially being the "face" of Saudi Arabian tourism who may bid against his own motherland for a world cup
So are all Tifo videos just Athletic articles?
'Why did Tifo publish this video right after Messi won the world cup'- next tifo video idea.
Funny how unicef can talk about human rights violation in Saudi but is quiet about china
This is a timely video. Hopefully the adulation he is getting now in Argentina would make him change his mind about this Saudi deal. I hope he can play a large role in the South American WC bid in 2030.
What does any of this really have to do with messi? I mean great timing..after he wins a world cup, you post a deep dive about his business dealings, and to emphasis what? That he's shady? Or some kind of crook? He's the GOAT, and as much as you try to stain his name he'll always be the greatest...do better Tifo
It’s cool when Beckham does it for Qatar but a problem when Messi does it for Saudi Arabia. No video on Beckham I notice, just a shameless attempt to capitalise on messi’s World Cup win
Hypocrisy of the West
Is it cool? Beckham's getting a lot of heat from the British press about the deal. I think the issue the video raises is how there is a conflict of interest of who's bid Messi might support
@@immortalsteel5412 can’t believe he would not support Argentina’s bid, andI haven’t heard that much flak for Beckham , Neville got more and he got a fraction of the money Beckham did. There was a time when sportsmen and women had morals and ethics but no longer, and no one cares, money is god
TIFO: Beckham is British -> Even better: He's English -> Deals with Qatar -> He's an astute businessman at the top of the food chain.
TIFO: Messi is a South American -> Tweets: "Visit Jeddah" -> He has no moral compass and is an average player.
Source : trust me bro
Amazing in-depth content that looks at the game from different angles. Very refreshing and enlightening.
Zero to hero by x millions would be a terrible tragedy.
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I would send an email, not sure they read the comments!
this is football channel ?
Strange this is coming just after Messi had won the World Cup. The English media campaign has officially started.
well now Ronaldo is getting 200M per year for it lol
I think we should have a WC in 2029 in Saudi/Turkye/Greece and then a Centennario in S.America. Kind of like 2016 Copa America...
This video has nothing to do with sport, it’s 99% politics, and btw god bless MBS
🇸🇦💚
.. wat.
Is that the best video idea you can think of right now.
No Messi the Goat.
No Argentina champions at last.
No History made in Argentina.
.. nothing
strange? We gave him money. That's it.
If he's promoting tourism I really don't see what's the problem.
Ok, human rights are not respected, but he also have to think long term and to earn money now.
And he seems to have a good relationship with some Saudis so it yeah, it makes sense.
@@gropatapouf5998human rights are respected in more than %99 of the world countries.
@@1Thani China, US, Russia, North Korea, Australia (migrant children in detainment camps in Nauru doesnt sound very free) and a few more say no
@@AManWithNoName that’s literally 0.2% of the world countries. And yes, you bring up a good point, in which multiple western countries are committing atrocious behaviors, yet are willing to lecture all the globe about human rights.
@@gropatapouf5998 human rights are not respected in almost every country...and about the wars well its our guns that we sell..so we arent in PEACE bussiness we are promoting war and selling it like its for protection.
Why can't we just have 1 country hosting a world cup, why is it suddenly only joint bids.
I think since 1998 it has become join bids. its because join bids have more chances of winning the host... Qatar is the only exception since it has sooooooooooo much influence on world stage than many realize.
I think the main thing is the sunk cost of hosting. Most world cups or Olympics cost around 8-14bn, while Qatar was 220 with a lot of infrastructure costs included. Joint bids make financial sense but come with logistical issues
Look up what happened to stadiums after the 2014 World Cup hosted by Brazil. They built a ton of infrastructure and stadiums to host the matches, only for a majority of them to go unused afterwards.
Or look at the most recent World Cup in Qatar, where they didn't have nearly enough lodging and food services, and built a ton of temporary structures.
Joint bidding is as much about utilizing existing infrastructure and spread costs as allowing more countries be highlighted.
love these passive aggressive hit pieces you guys do on footballers when you don’t agree with what they do
Watching this inside a saudi school 500m away from the US Consulate Jeddah may be the most unexpected thing I did today
This is fantastic journalism, it really is. Tifo is always high quality, but even for you guys, this is some of the best stuff you do. In depth, yet easy to understand and digest dives into the more important and nuanced aspects attached to football. More of the same, please, and thanks for your work
They never disappoint
100% agreed.
Tifo always has to mention the human right violations of Saudi and Qatar whenever they are mentioned, but never speaks about the human right violations of the US and the UK when they are mentioned. For example, millions of people bombed in Yemen = millions of people bombed in countless countries by the US and UK. Strange journalism.
@@oran7260 Tifo always has to mention the human right violations of Saudi and Qatar whenever they are mentioned, but never speaks about the human right violations of the US and the UK when they are mentioned. For example, millions of people bombed in Yemen = millions of people bombed in countless countries by the US and UK. Strange journalism.
Fantastic journalism? Most of it came from non credible sources. You may have meant lazy, and quite frankly misleading. I can agree with that
Rofl now they gaslight Messi xD
Bro just trying to get click from Messi name! Is not that deep. Messi teams just doing business, and for the South American.
It started well and I was enjoying the video before it turned into a "Let's bash the Saudis" video. Don't know why sports channels have decided to become political nowadays.
So you enjoyed a political video until it became political?
can you imagine Englishmen trying to lecture others about human rights? lmao
Women, people of colour and LGBTQ community aren't denied their rights in england
@@Tasmanaut sadly.
Westerners have no shame
They are all oppressors. Saudi takes your right to speak and commits war crimes in Yemen. UK sells weapons to Saudi and is busy neo colonizing African nations buy destabilizing governments so to steal their resources which results in immigration. There are too many people who are Willing to burn the world for their own gains. Peace will never be an option 😔.
The English man lecturing has never violated human rights so has all the rights to be able to call out when other do
And Ronaldo with an important offer from Al-Nassr. Heavy investment!
Very confident in the PT+ES+UKR bid for the 2030 WC.
As great as a player he is, off the field he is dodgy, constantly dodging his taxes, has no moral compass when it comes to who he associates with, and projects like he is clean living guy, least Maradona was fully in with his lore of being a rebel. This guy would do anything for money with any fiend.
Idk about Maradona, he has pictures hanging out with the biggest narcos and mass murderers in South American history. As much as coining him as a rebel sounds cool he also seemed to have extremely dodgy relationships. Although I do agree that Messi puts out an image of ethical purity he clearly either doesn’t care enough to do his own research into the people and associations he gets in business with or worse he knows but doesn’t care enough to not accept the money that comes with supporting them.
Stop being a hypocrite!
good for Saudi Arabia
It's staggering to me how one of Argentina's most important and world-famous icons is the public face of a World Cup bid against Argentina by Saudi Arabia. It truly staggers the mind.
You’ve been swayed by a simple propaganda video mate. There’s probably not much up top to be tinkered against.
@@philcartman2216 I think it is you that arr blind lmao, all of this is public knowledge. Messi loves whoever pays him more, like a true wh*re. He and CR7 are the same.
@@1998Cebola lmao why would you delete your comment bruv.
@@philcartman2216 Dude your hero is greedy for money. You gotta admit that
@@falconeshield aren’t we all? Whoever controls the money controls the world and freedom. It’s sad but its true.
I really liked how you talked about the innocent children that died in Yemen due to Saudi coalition but why dont you have the same energy for USA and Canada? European Canadians killed 80-90% of canada’s indigenous population in a mass cultural genocide.
Usa is like canada but they commit 100x worse atrocities in their own country and in foreign countries. Lets not forget about the millions of innocent Iraqis USA murdered in the name of “freedom” and “democracy”.
Hosting a world cup in a country that has ret@rded gun laws with mentally disabled citizens is way worse.
Killing innocent people is bad no matter who does it but the western media loves to hate on Muslims world while committing much worse crimes against innocent humans. You guys have no right to be moral policing others especially Muslims countries.
This is a political video aimed to and has nothing to do with sport, aimed to defame Saudi Arabia. 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
Messi now has over 400M followers on insta
How does Greece, Egypt and Suadi Arabia make geographical sense.
Way more sense than US, Mexico and Canada
Greece is exactly opposite of Egypt and the nearest European nation (along with Cyprus) for Egypt and Saudi Arabia. For example, Creta is closer to Egypt than to mainland Greece.
all three of them are literally neighbours, you should've looked at a map before commenting.
@@Dhoom1981 not really
Makes perfect sense if you check google map
Messi won the World Cup in Qatar and his football team is also owned by a large Qatari fund. Messi also doesn’t have a problem getting benefits from a dicey Saudi Arabian government.
YIIKES! This is an uncomfortable context.
Tifo used to be legit and talking about all aspects of great football, but the last month show me the real story. Even on the middle of a great WC and lots of good stories and performances, they decided to talk only politics and against one party only!
Disgusting 👋🏻
Now I understand why Messi & Argentina surprisingly can lose to Saudi Arabia in the first match while after that Saudi never win against other teams..
This is out of context comment :). in 00:57 Rafha was shown in the map of Saudi Arabia, but why? This city has a population of only 100K people lol. As a Saudi, I'm a bit surprised tbh
Saudi arabia, grece and egypt
Italy could do with germany and japan......
It is so weird what people will do for money when they are already so obscenely wealthy
Why would a channel discuss this out of the blue? Why would someone wait to post this exact topic now especially when it happened months ago. It doesn’t feel right especially with what’s happening currently between america and saudi. Huh, coincidence?
Tifo always has to mention the human right violations of Saudi and Qatar whenever they are mentioned, but never speaks about the human right violations of the US and the UK when they are mentioned. For example, millions of people bombed in Yemen = millions of people bombed in countless countries by the US and UK. Strange journalism.
It's so interesting that this basically sets up a international moral quandary, does Messi follow patriotism and tradition or does he let the money get the best of him?
How is this "strange"..? Many footballers advertise Western tourism and products without criticism despite the fact that many "human rights abuses" which Western media have accused Middle Eastern countries of happen regularly here in the West.
How many bombs did they drop on women and children in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Hiroshima, Nagasaki and beyond? How many leaders have they assassinated for political reasons? How many prisoners die in custody or police shootings?
You can shrug and say 'stop the whataboutery, that's bad too' but it merely exposes your hypocrisy given you haven't and won't criticise England in the same way during the Euros last year and the USA during the next World Cup. Western media's double standards and hypocrisy when it comes to Muslim/brown countries is laughable.
You say Messi wished him happy birthday as if that is something bad....who cares if someone was wished happy birthday man come on mate...
Throughout the 2022 World Cup, I saw genuine and bad faith arguments citing the historic and even present-day human rights abuses of European countries as a justification for Qatari and Saudi human rights abuses.
1. That's just the dictionary definition of whataboutism. Congratulations for using the most basic and worst argument in your defense.
2. It also doesn't make sense because the scale and severity of human rights abuses by Middle Eastern governments are far more than what happens in The West today. In 1822, France and the UK were worse. But it's not 1822 last I checked.
It's all "Qatar killed 6,500 South Asians in the last 10 years but the British killed 10 million South Asians in the 1940s! Therefore, Qatar is innocent! If you don't believe me, here's a celebrity with a price-tag on their moral values that we paid for to reiterate that statement!"
False. Merely providing a counterfactual is not "whataboutery" : it is exposing the double standards and hypocrisy of Western media in pointing out alleged "human rights abuses" when it comes to a Muslim/brown country as opposed to the West.
And no-one is suggesting you go back centuries:
Where was the criticism of Russia in 2018? Or were they a paragon of virtue which became the bad guys overnight..?
How about England in 2021 or the USA next World Cup, both of which fabricated evidence to drop hundreds of bombs on women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan and assassinated political leaders in recent history?
You can be content to be manipulated like a puppet but some people actually question the narratives they're fed. Even if they are with pretty cartoons.
"The scale and severity of human rights abuses by middle eastern governments are far more than that happens in the west today"
Do you have any evidence for your asinine and ignorant comment?
The next world cup in 2026 will be held in USA - a country that has criminalised abortion, has insane levels of gun violence, lgbt people are killed frequently in mass shootings and has killed countless civillians through drone strikes across the world. I doubt hypocrites like yourself will be protesting about the world cup being hosted there.
Qatar has hosted the best world cup ever and it's obvious you're bitter about this.
I mean European countries/USA are violating humans rights as we speak in 2022. It's important to recognise that. Innocent people (some children) were kidnapped and held in an offshore prison by the US for decades - and some are still being held without trial. Britain and USA facilitate war crimes in Yemen and Palestine by selling arms which are killing innocent civilians. It's important to have these discussions considering the next World Cup is in USA.
The Afghanistan occupation ended just a few months ago, leaving 50,000+ civilians dead. We're not talking about 1822...
@@zaffage comparing the afghan war to the world cup in Qatar I can‘t even
Messi is Based
I think your stuff has some incredibility and missing the truth
Man mentioned unicef lol
Now do a video about Qatars strange relationship ship with Messi
This entire video was just made redundant with Ronaldo's ridiculous $200M per year salary with Al Nasr which would also include clauses to promote 2030.
Qatar world cup was amazing in spite of being in Qatar not because it was there
Let's not forget the human rights abuses, corruption and the turmoil it caused being in the winter
Let's not host another world cup in the Middle East for at least a while
It was great because it was in Qatar, and the winner was the one who don't play politics and respect the host. All those European who disrespect the host crash out early.....
Let that sink in!!!!
True . Let's have some gap.
Middle eastern heat would again shift wc to December which we don't want.
@@MuhammadOthman88 the winners were supported by those Arab states! PSG owned by Qatar! Messi Saudi Arabia’s tourism promoter! 🤡
well since most of the world cups having been held in europe, most recently in russia, i can guarantee that with the success of Qatar, it'll will be held in Saudi Arabia and if people disagree, then stop accepting middle eastern oil and gas which your country relies on in order to keep already higher expenses even low. Saudi Arabia will probably offer oil/gas deals to western governments for their support of the tournament and before you say that's illegal, well, the french promised their vote for the usa 2022 bid but qatar offered more to the french what usa could. so it's all fair as it's just good business that matters.
Human rights abuses and corruption exist in every country and the uk and usa are much worse than qatar.
@@MuhammadOthman88 and Qatar did so well did they lmao
Waiting for your video about the human rights abuses all around the world done by the 2026 world cup hosts countries !
Anyone commenting on Canada and Trudeau?
Thought not.
🍿 Argentina suffering throughout the tournament was out of hollywood script. I can’t believe it was real! 😒It was definitely rigged somehow. 😒
Messi to Argentina/Uruguay/Chile 2030 "haste pasha bobo"
Messi to Newcastle United confirmed!
The multi-country bids are stupid.
If Ronaldo took the same deal, we would never hear the end of it. I love Messi but there's no denying the shadiness of these types of deals. Like Beckham and the Qatari contract
100% spot on. Messi somehow managed to retain an image of humble, down to earth guy while being no different from those who are constantly criticized by doing even less shady deals than him. I guess the fanboyism is blinding.
And I'm saying this as an ex David Beckham fan, I just can't stand lack of integrity.
Spot on. Messi fanboys are insufferable.
@@MrTuttiFrutti you're just an idiot spamming this nonsense everywhere.
Saudia had a secret affair with Messi, now has an open relationship with Cr7.. 👀👀
Morocco deserves to host the 2030 world cup after all the failed bids and their performance at this world cup.
They really do!
Nah Uruguay and argentina deserve 2030 as its the 100th anniversary, but morocco should absolutely get the 2034 one like idk abt fifa or anyone else but I for one would love to see a Moroccan world cup, an Arab world cup with far fewer controversies plus an African one too
100% agree with Rafael.
100% agree with joshua
@@alexhildebrand5542 hence why 2034. South America hosted the first ever world Cup and they should get the 2030.
Well….mhmm…where Ronaldo now…*coughs in hypocrisy*
The video starts about messi and saudi arabia and end with Yemen and jamal
And no one understands what is the point here
And then out of nowhere Messi moves to Saudi Arabia and joins Al Nassr with CR7..lol unlikely but it would certainly make big news.
Actually there is rumor spreading that Messi might join another football club in Saudi they started selling Messi shirts already
@@Zero-ft3sf for real?...lay me in..whats the news thus far?
No more than 1 nation should hold the world cup. Reason why Qatar worked nicely is because all the stadiums were closely next to each other. The atmosphere and feeling of seeing other tourists makes it a warm feelings. I think a world cup should be held in a country that has not had it yet