If your designing difficult parts, very handy and if it connects to a 3D printer very handy, thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones
I have yet to see any actual critical reviews from anyone that was "given" this scanner. They're ALL sponsored. Meanwhile, the critical reviews all seem to be purchased and used by actual people and not high profile influencers. Even the listing on amazon was recycled from another product that had good reviews. Why do the actual users and influencers have such a different user experience???
I totally get what you're saying, and honestly I'm moving away from doing many more projects/reviews like this in the future because even if I tell the honest truth, it feels like an infomercial and doesn't provide the best value for my audience. I truly did my best to show my honest experience, including all the tracking errors that I ran into in the software and the delays they caused. This is the same issue you'll find complaints about online whether sponsored or not, so I haven't really seen examples of people having a different experience than that. (I don't count the whining on reddit by guys who've never even touched the product and just don't like the brand.) I ended up with very accurate scans, which are real and there's really no way to argue with the scan data that I got. For the cheapest option in a blue light scanner, it does work at a reasonable level with the understanding that it's not a top of the line professional machine. For the infrared, I also said it's not the best option available, which I think is a critical review. Regardless, I do appreciate and completely understand the feedback. Thanks a ton for watching.
These scanners definitely have a learning curve (the actual scanning, piecing together, mesh export, Fusion import, conversion to surface). I have the Einstar. After a couple scanning projects, you'll find you're grabbing it instead your calipers. "Learn Everything About Design" has some excellent videos on both scanning and Fusion import. Thanks Tim, have fun. Stick your kids on a spinning shop stool, scan then 3D print their heads. Very helpful for costume making.
They definitely do have a learning curve. I bought an Einstar also a little while back and it's been a fun technology to tinker with when I have time. Learn Everything About Design is a great channel, I've picked up a lot of tips there.
Thanks Tim for another thorough and comprehensive product tryout! btw, Creality's Ferret scanner also seems to be a good pick w/o the blue laser feature. Friend has that one and I wonder if he has printed out and stickered similar marker buttons like those. Anyway, that chuck cradle turned out super nice. 💯
Tracking errors could be related to your reference point pucks. The geometry of the pucks are too similar to the next, if pucks have too similar geometry around the part, the transformation can get skewed. Try randomizing the puck geometry so the reference point placement isn't identical and try not to use too many of similar geometry in your scan, you may have had too many pucks also. You can 3d print a "pillar frame" to surround your part also and put your reference points on the pillars in a random orientation.
The raptors NIR(near infrared is not very good. The NIR on the Creality Otter scanner is extremely good. There is now a wireless bridge for the raptor that has just been released. I’m loving both the raptor and otter scanners. Extremely happy with my purchase. 🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼🍀☮️😎
That's a great idea! I have a couple rotary welding positions I might try to use as is, but if those don't work, I'll probably build something like you're describing.
This is a bit of an odd request but could you scan your elbow and or the knuckles on your hand. A hotwheels car maybe ? Im struggling to find reviews for using the raptor to scan a small area with intricate details with a resin print of the object to compare them 1:1. I can't afford to buy a scanner and I'm struggling to find someone willing to rent one to me. Hence the odd request 😂. A really informative review and great video by the way.
I only have two, and they have very different strengths, so a comparison would definitely make sense. It's not on the video list in the short term, but if I happen across a project that's a good example to compare them on, I'll make a quick video out of it.
Yo if there was like little antennas with those calibrator nodes in front of the optics it could calibrate slash render better in real time maybe the software doesn't really work like that
I have the Einstar and I like it better for most things, it's easier to use and tracks better. That being said, the accuracy and detail of the blue light scans from the Raptor on small intricate parts are much better.
Great video! I have a question about the volumetric accuracy of the Creality Raptor. The site says it’s 0.02mm for 100mm, so I guess for a 1000mm part it would be around 0.2mm, right? I’m thinking of upgrading-currently using a Revopoint POP2, and I’m sure the Raptor is way better for small details. But my main focus is scanning larger parts, like 1 to 2 meters, for reverse engineering. With the POP2, even using markers, I’ve seen up to 5mm variation in 1-meter parts when I compare two meshes that should be identical. It seems like there’s a tracking issue or something when merging the point cloud. Has anyone here used the Raptor for scanning bigger parts? How’s the accuracy in practice? The specs look good, but I’m curious about real-world results. Thanks a lot for any help!
I haven’t seen this one. It looks interesting. The question is, would you have bought this yourself? I’m looking for one and I haven’t decided. I’m going to go to the additive expo a month, or so, from now, here in NYC. They usually have these, from amateur to high end commercial. What’s the cost of this one?
I just got a Raptor delivered on Monday. I think for most people, the Otter is the better option. It has a wider field of view, faster scanning, and still decent quality results. I got the Raptor for scanning in clay sculptures and detailed models. I will say the cord length is a bummer. It's connected to my workstation, which is too big to move to a work table so I'm going to try a 6' extension and see if there's issues. The infrared mode is also pretty worthless. The field of view is so small, and loses tracking all the time. But that's not what I bought it for, just sucks it's that bad. I got it with a discount code from Creality's website for $1100, normally $1500. The Otter is $900.
@@chadvoller that’s good information. Precision is the most important thing for me. Scan speed is secondary. I’m surprised at the short cord. Also surprised they’re using a USB A connector in late 2024. But I imagine a make USB C to female USB A would work. Another problem for me would be if the software is Windows only. Ok, I just checked. It works with M series Macs. That’s great. Now it would be even nicer if I could use it with my 13” M4 16GB RAM iPad Pro for more portable use.
@@chadvoller Hey! Would it be possible to know the discount code you used? I've tried a couple but they're all expired. Don't know if I can justify 1.5k euros for this haha
It's an ASUS Q540V creator laptop. Intel Core i9-13900H NVIDIA RTX3050 6GB 16GB RAM (it could use a little more to be honest, but I get by) It was a returned unit at my local Best Buy, which I was able to get for about $750, which was pretty good for those specs at the time.
The end that connects to the scanner is USB-C. And like @TimWelds says, it comes with a USB-A to USB-C adapter. But I agree, any modern hardware should default to USB-C and then have an adapter to USB-A. I don't see it as a big issue, however.
If your designing difficult parts, very handy and if it connects to a 3D printer very handy, thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones
I have yet to see any actual critical reviews from anyone that was "given" this scanner. They're ALL sponsored. Meanwhile, the critical reviews all seem to be purchased and used by actual people and not high profile influencers. Even the listing on amazon was recycled from another product that had good reviews. Why do the actual users and influencers have such a different user experience???
I totally get what you're saying, and honestly I'm moving away from doing many more projects/reviews like this in the future because even if I tell the honest truth, it feels like an infomercial and doesn't provide the best value for my audience. I truly did my best to show my honest experience, including all the tracking errors that I ran into in the software and the delays they caused. This is the same issue you'll find complaints about online whether sponsored or not, so I haven't really seen examples of people having a different experience than that. (I don't count the whining on reddit by guys who've never even touched the product and just don't like the brand.) I ended up with very accurate scans, which are real and there's really no way to argue with the scan data that I got. For the cheapest option in a blue light scanner, it does work at a reasonable level with the understanding that it's not a top of the line professional machine. For the infrared, I also said it's not the best option available, which I think is a critical review. Regardless, I do appreciate and completely understand the feedback. Thanks a ton for watching.
These scanners definitely have a learning curve (the actual scanning, piecing together, mesh export, Fusion import, conversion to surface). I have the Einstar. After a couple scanning projects, you'll find you're grabbing it instead your calipers. "Learn Everything About Design" has some excellent videos on both scanning and Fusion import. Thanks Tim, have fun. Stick your kids on a spinning shop stool, scan then 3D print their heads. Very helpful for costume making.
They definitely do have a learning curve. I bought an Einstar also a little while back and it's been a fun technology to tinker with when I have time. Learn Everything About Design is a great channel, I've picked up a lot of tips there.
Hello, Can scan large parts like a front bumper of a vehicle?
@@nordenconrad @TimWelds search for "Adding some Technology to the Jeep Cherokee Build - Shining 3D Einstar 3D Scanner" from Treasure State Toolbags.
Amazing how far this technology has come lately. Great review, Tim, very helpful, thanks
Thanks Tim for another thorough and comprehensive product tryout! btw, Creality's Ferret scanner also seems to be a good pick w/o the blue laser feature. Friend has that one and I wonder if he has printed out and stickered similar marker buttons like those. Anyway, that chuck cradle turned out super nice. 💯
Tracking errors could be related to your reference point pucks. The geometry of the pucks are too similar to the next, if pucks have too similar geometry around the part, the transformation can get skewed.
Try randomizing the puck geometry so the reference point placement isn't identical and try not to use too many of similar geometry in your scan, you may have had too many pucks also.
You can 3d print a "pillar frame" to surround your part also and put your reference points on the pillars in a random orientation.
The raptors NIR(near infrared is not very good. The NIR on the Creality Otter scanner is extremely good.
There is now a wireless bridge for the raptor that has just been released.
I’m loving both the raptor and otter scanners. Extremely happy with my purchase.
🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼🍀☮️😎
Very good review from the newbies perspective. Thanks Tim.
I built a table with a lazy susan on it and a stepper motor slapped on a motor controller and made a scanning table out of stuff I had here
That's a great idea! I have a couple rotary welding positions I might try to use as is, but if those don't work, I'll probably build something like you're describing.
I wanted to do that with a foot pedal to control direction and speed.
This is a bit of an odd request but could you scan your elbow and or the knuckles on your hand. A hotwheels car maybe ?
Im struggling to find reviews for using the raptor to scan a small area with intricate details with a resin print of the object to compare them 1:1.
I can't afford to buy a scanner and I'm struggling to find someone willing to rent one to me. Hence the odd request 😂.
A really informative review and great video by the way.
Thanks, Tim. Any plans to do a comparison of scanners?
I only have two, and they have very different strengths, so a comparison would definitely make sense. It's not on the video list in the short term, but if I happen across a project that's a good example to compare them on, I'll make a quick video out of it.
Yo if there was like little antennas with those calibrator nodes in front of the optics it could calibrate slash render better in real time maybe the software doesn't really work like that
I'm a user of the Shining3D - Einstar 3D Scanner, and I'm wondering if it's worth switching to this one? will it be better?
I have the Einstar and I like it better for most things, it's easier to use and tracks better. That being said, the accuracy and detail of the blue light scans from the Raptor on small intricate parts are much better.
@@TimWelds this what I wanted to know.
Hello, Can scan large parts like a front bumper of a vehicle?
How much clearance did you allow under the chuck? Seems to work very smooth
I left a .030" gap, which seems to be about right.
Do You thinking the Macbook M2 Pro with 16Gb will be good anough?
Great video! I have a question about the volumetric accuracy of the Creality Raptor. The site says it’s 0.02mm for 100mm, so I guess for a 1000mm part it would be around 0.2mm, right? I’m thinking of upgrading-currently using a Revopoint POP2, and I’m sure the Raptor is way better for small details. But my main focus is scanning larger parts, like 1 to 2 meters, for reverse engineering.
With the POP2, even using markers, I’ve seen up to 5mm variation in 1-meter parts when I compare two meshes that should be identical. It seems like there’s a tracking issue or something when merging the point cloud.
Has anyone here used the Raptor for scanning bigger parts? How’s the accuracy in practice? The specs look good, but I’m curious about real-world results. Thanks a lot for any help!
I also have the pop...currently contemplating miraco pro (because of its portability) and this.. because...blue light. So hard to choose
Hello no necessary you should review the calibration certificate and data sheet and the certificate accreditation
whats your opinion about Miracle vs Raptor? need a 3d scaner and thats only 2 options i can see
I haven’t seen this one. It looks interesting. The question is, would you have bought this yourself? I’m looking for one and I haven’t decided. I’m going to go to the additive expo a month, or so, from now, here in NYC. They usually have these, from amateur to high end commercial. What’s the cost of this one?
I just got a Raptor delivered on Monday. I think for most people, the Otter is the better option. It has a wider field of view, faster scanning, and still decent quality results.
I got the Raptor for scanning in clay sculptures and detailed models. I will say the cord length is a bummer. It's connected to my workstation, which is too big to move to a work table so I'm going to try a 6' extension and see if there's issues. The infrared mode is also pretty worthless. The field of view is so small, and loses tracking all the time. But that's not what I bought it for, just sucks it's that bad. I got it with a discount code from Creality's website for $1100, normally $1500. The Otter is $900.
@@chadvoller that’s good information. Precision is the most important thing for me. Scan speed is secondary. I’m surprised at the short cord. Also surprised they’re using a USB A connector in late 2024. But I imagine a make USB C to female USB A would work. Another problem for me would be if the software is Windows only. Ok, I just checked. It works with M series Macs. That’s great. Now it would be even nicer if I could use it with my 13” M4 16GB RAM iPad Pro for more portable use.
@@chadvoller Hey! Would it be possible to know the discount code you used? I've tried a couple but they're all expired. Don't know if I can justify 1.5k euros for this haha
@@melgross It comes with the USB C adapter. It's actually a USB C connector at the unit where it screws in.
@@chadvoller ok, that’s good.
Can you do like a blue light red light overlay at the same time or alternate in real time I mean.. does the software do that?
No, it's one or the other in this case.
Tim, would you mind sharing your laptop specs? You had 40fps it looked like on the 1-2-3 block.
Laptop Brand/Model
CPU
GPU
RAM
Thanks!
It's an ASUS Q540V creator laptop.
Intel Core i9-13900H
NVIDIA RTX3050 6GB
16GB RAM (it could use a little more to be honest, but I get by)
It was a returned unit at my local Best Buy, which I was able to get for about $750, which was pretty good for those specs at the time.
instead of movinng the scanner why didn't you move/rotate the model you wannted to scan? or it works just as you did?
You can put the object on a turntable to rotate it around. I just don't have one set up at the moment.
can we use it for inspection ?
I was going to ask the same.
Is there any scanner available on the market for civil infrastructure? Such as scanning the structure of a bridge, for example?
I'm not sure, I haven't seen one for things like that.
Bonjour
Oui, ce sont des scanners terrestres. Portée de plusieurs metres à plusieurs centaine de mètres. Marques: Trimble, Leica...
Looks good. :)
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Clean
The bots are out in force lately!
Totally. I try to go through and delete them pretty soon after a video goes live.
Bikini pic thumbnails & asking about editing the audio. Yeah, they're everywhere too.
Thanks for this review. You get what you pay for with this scanner unfortunately.
Don't those things technically use graphics cards
The computer I used has a killer graphics card, which I think is needed, but I'm not sure of the specs on this one.
Rocker arm, i know what thats about! tic tic tic
$1500 and it’s not even usb c??? Must be meant for poor people.
It had a USB-C adapter also, but this connection seemed to be fine.
The end that connects to the scanner is USB-C. And like @TimWelds says, it comes with a USB-A to USB-C adapter. But I agree, any modern hardware should default to USB-C and then have an adapter to USB-A. I don't see it as a big issue, however.
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