Getting ready to make some of these for Christmas gifts, so I watched this video again to refresh. Thanks Sam for all the hard work you do sharing your knowledge with us. Those are really beautiful boxes
Thanks Mike I am really planning on doing more boxes. I love the inlay stuff it is a grew way to use up small bits of wood, which we all have laying around. Oh, by the way. I went to the Rocky Mountain turning symposium in Colorado. there was a blind turner who I saw twice. AMAZING!!!!! His work was excellent. He is a little faster than your friend but still very deliberate. But really something to see. Plus he was a great comedian as well with an incredible attitude. Sam
It looked as though you finished (applied oil) the inside of both the top and bottom with it still being a very tight fight so you could use it as a jam chuck. At what point did you then losen the fit? I assume you recut it and finished it again?
Adam Luna Hi Adam.....The jaws I used are long nose jaws with a Vicmark chuck. The smallest compression fixing is about 1 1/8 inch so it is a pretty small tenon. So yes it is held in a compression mode. I turned this box in the normal fashion for a box. Sam
Wonderful video (which I was waiting for...) and a fine looking box! wish I could get my hands on some cocobolo, but I can't find anything in Italy, and to ship it from anywhere else is just too much for me right now, but I'll get there, I'll find some :) I love the extra bead at the end, it's subtle but adds a lot to the overall feel of the box. If you don't mind Sam, a little question about your finish, you mentioned you used some shellac on it, anything else after the shellac? how many coats? sanding between applications? Thanks again for a great video!
yuval lahav I use the shellac as a seal coat mostly. I apply two or three coats. I let it dry for 20 minutes then buff. I used oil as the final finish on this box. I don't really sand between application but I do buff with a shop towel between coats. I often use shellac as a first coat. it makes a good base for Lacquer, oils, or even a friction polish which sometimes is a shellac based finish. Sam
thanks Sam, I finally found where to buy shellac here in Rome, and got me some (it's premixed, since transparent denatured alcohol is illegal in Italy, it has to be colored pink... which is why I can't make Addie's shine juice), I was a little timid about using it. better get to it :)
yuval lahav if you can't get non coloured denatured alcohol, what about finding someone that makes a high proof homebrew spirit? It's pretty much the same thing after all.
Pete G Nope, no moonshiners in my town, or among my friends, none that I know of that is. I think Italians are pretty much content with their wine and terrible wannabe whiskey to be wanting to make anything else... :)
Sam, this is not about the inlay but I see you always put the tenon between the box and the lid, on the box rather than the lid. Is there a reason for that or could the tenon be on the lid?
Glen, I think it is about which (the lid or the base) is easier to fit into the other one when making the box. I agree it is easier making the lid with a recess and the base, with the "tenon" that fits into the recess. Plus it has been done this way since time began. Sam
Nice looking project. Do you ever have any problem with the glue holding on cocobolo or other oily wood? Likely not a problem on this project, but I usually swab the surface with acetone to take off the surface oil. I have made pens with cocobolo or most all other exotics, and I always swab out the hole with a q-tip before gluing in the brass tube with CA.
Ron I glue cocobolo to something else rarely or never. I do think it is a good idea to clean the surface with acetone.My feeling is that woods like cocobolo and lignum vitae are so oily that cleaning the surface with acetone may help only a little as the oil will migrate back to that area. That is only a theory. With the piece in the project I had a good fit that probably will be ok. But that is a great tip for the pens and the brass tube. Sam
Jim I don't think it as critical with a small item. I would first determine the form or shape of your box when it it completed. Second. Make sure that you have enough wood for the area that will be the male and female joint. (You could even leave this out and do it later. Sam
What finish did you use? (Just curious).... I have heard the argument that one could just apply some carnauba wax and nothing more. To me it is a bit like Lignum vitae=very oily. I usually just use some friction polish and have been OK. thanks Sam
Getting ready to make some of these for Christmas gifts, so I watched this video again to refresh. Thanks Sam for all the hard work you do sharing your knowledge with us. Those are really beautiful boxes
+Lynn Schmidt Thanks very much
Sam
The beauty of that little box just sums up the joy of wood turning for me so many thanks.
Alan.
Excellent video Sam, and the Cocobolo insert really makes that box "pop". Great tutorial again my friend.
Cheers
Mike
Thanks Mike I am really planning on doing more boxes. I love the inlay stuff it is a grew way to use up small bits of wood, which we all have laying around. Oh, by the way. I went to the Rocky Mountain turning symposium in Colorado. there was a blind turner who I saw twice. AMAZING!!!!! His work was excellent. He is a little faster than your friend but still very deliberate. But really something to see. Plus he was a great comedian as well with an incredible attitude. Sam
Very nice Sam, I really like the contrasting woods.
Thanks
Sam
Sam, just ran across this one. Very nice! I love the cocobolo (I just wish I could find good and relatively in expensive stock.)
Very nice boxes. I'll have to do more of them.
Alan
Nice work
lovely boxes Sam, Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching
Sam
It looked as though you finished (applied oil) the inside of both the top and bottom with it still being a very tight fight so you could use it as a jam chuck. At what point did you then losen the fit? I assume you recut it and finished it again?
Yes that is correct. I do need to go back and resize the join to make sure it is workable. Sam
Excellent... Beautiful inlay and box... Cheers...
hey sam i had to get a new tablet a while back so i had to subscribe again just to let u know my friend. chris
Sam,
How are you holding the piece? With the exterior of the jaws? Are those pin jaws?
Thanks!
Adam Luna Hi Adam.....The jaws I used are long nose jaws with a Vicmark chuck. The smallest compression fixing is about 1 1/8 inch so it is a pretty small tenon. So yes it is held in a compression mode. I turned this box in the normal fashion for a box. Sam
Thanks Sam! I wasn't sure how you were grabbing the piece, makes sense now.
Adam Woodturner b
Wonderful video (which I was waiting for...) and a fine looking box! wish I could get my hands on some cocobolo, but I can't find anything in Italy, and to ship it from anywhere else is just too much for me right now, but I'll get there, I'll find some :) I love the extra bead at the end, it's subtle but adds a lot to the overall feel of the box. If you don't mind Sam, a little question about your finish, you mentioned you used some shellac on it, anything else after the shellac? how many coats? sanding between applications?
Thanks again for a great video!
yuval lahav I use the shellac as a seal coat mostly. I apply two or three coats. I let it dry for 20 minutes then buff. I used oil as the final finish on this box. I don't really sand between application but I do buff with a shop towel between coats. I often use shellac as a first coat. it makes a good base for Lacquer, oils, or even a friction polish which sometimes is a shellac based finish. Sam
thanks Sam, I finally found where to buy shellac here in Rome, and got me some (it's premixed, since transparent denatured alcohol is illegal in Italy, it has to be colored pink... which is why I can't make Addie's shine juice), I was a little timid about using it. better get to it :)
yuval lahav if you can't get non coloured denatured alcohol, what about finding someone that makes a high proof homebrew spirit? It's pretty much the same thing after all.
Pete G Nope, no moonshiners in my town, or among my friends, none that I know of that is. I think Italians are pretty much content with their wine and terrible wannabe whiskey to be wanting to make anything else... :)
yuval lahav well it might be time to either start frequenting shady bars OR be building yourself a still ;)
Hey Sam ,, I use a Forsna bit on the lid ,, then a hole-cutter for the inlay ,, almost no measuring,, what could be easer ,. Regards Alf
The hole cutter is an interesting idea. Now the hole cutter is like what is used on doors? Might be worth trying. Sam
Sam, this is not about the inlay but I see you always put the tenon between the box and the lid, on the box rather than the lid. Is there a reason for that or could the tenon be on the lid?
Glen, I think it is about which (the lid or the base) is easier to fit into the other one when making the box. I agree it is easier making the lid with a recess and the base, with the "tenon" that fits into the recess. Plus it has been done this way since time began.
Sam
Thank you so much for this one !
Most excellent, thanks
Thank you Sam, I'm only a few months into turning, and am just starting on boxes. I will give your 'Inlay' method a try. Sure to please the wife :)
Just been a got a load of wood today after watching this video, thanks so much for the idea's
Thanks Sam ... you gave me some great ideas for using some of the scraps I have been accumulating!
Very nice job. Thanks Sam ! I'll try to do sth similar...
Really like that box I think I will have to give that a try. Excellent job!!!!!
beautiful work Sam. Great bunch of boxes.
very very excellent ! Ildus from Russia )
Sam, I enjoyed this video. Excellent advice and excellent demo.
Nice looking project. Do you ever have any problem with the glue holding on cocobolo or other oily wood? Likely not a problem on this project, but I usually swab the surface with acetone to take off the surface oil. I have made pens with cocobolo or most all other exotics, and I always swab out the hole with a q-tip before gluing in the brass tube with CA.
Ron
I glue cocobolo to something else rarely or never. I do think it is a good idea to clean the surface with acetone.My feeling is that woods like cocobolo and lignum vitae are so oily that cleaning the surface with acetone may help only a little as the oil will migrate back to that area. That is only a theory. With the piece in the project I had a good fit that probably will be ok. But that is a great tip for the pens and the brass tube.
Sam
Enjoy your videos. Have learned much from them. Question?? When turning a box from wet wood, do you use the 10% rule for the thickness of the sides?
Jim
I don't think it as critical with a small item. I would first determine the form or shape of your box when it it completed. Second. Make sure that you have enough wood for the area that will be the male and female joint. (You could even leave this out and do it later.
Sam
Nice project. Just started to get into making lidded boxes after many requests and inlays can add such character to a piece. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching
Sam
Very nice job Sam. I love making little boxes as Christmas gift's for the family. Have a great day.
Matt
Thanks Matt, hope you are feeling better.
Sam
Terrific job! I like the "handle" finial as the tall thin ones really don't appeal to me...more of a show off piece.
I think on a box you need more of a handle because of the lid being taken off etc. Plus they are so easy to turn.
Sam
Very nice!
Thanks
Sam
Great video Sam. Beautiful boxes. Any tips on finishing cocobolo? I recently turned a bottle stopper but the oils keep leaching out through my finish
What finish did you use? (Just curious).... I have heard the argument that one could just apply some carnauba wax and nothing more. To me it is a bit like Lignum vitae=very oily. I usually just use some friction polish and have been OK. thanks Sam
Thanks Sam. I used salad bowl finish from general finishes
very nice looking box Sam. I've been thinking about an inlay. Glad to see your method. Thanks for sharing. Fred
Fred
I am still working on the proper way to do it. I sometimes get a gap in there I am not proud of. More practice.
Sam
WYOMINGWOODTURNER Practice is the fun part, and that's my plan.
Love the contrast of the woods. Thanks :D
Thanks very much
Sam
Nice video Sam
cheers Colin.
Thanks for watching
Sam
That is great I will give it a go.
Thanks
Thanks for watching, Sam
+icespeckledhens