We don’t know exactly what they went through in those 6 years…people say he cheated, maybe she cheated too..every story has two sides and this is coming from a swiftie. It’s easy to blame it all on Joe when we don’t even know what happened. All speculations. But the important thing is: Taylor seems to be happy now and I wish Joe the same 😊❤️
Thats kind of what it sounds like. I suspect she got with Joe to move on from Matty Healy after an intense fling but never really closed the book. Then when issues started and she felt lonely with Joe she leaned back into Matty. At the very least it really seems like from her lyrics she at least emotionally cheated. Some of her lyrics sound like matty love bombed and manipulated her then when she did finally leave Joe to go be with him he bailed on her. You dont write 18 songs on an album for someone you dated 3 months. A lot of those songs are def not just Joe songs.
Totally agree. Sticking strictly to the lyrics, it appears Taylor believes Joe cheated on her. Her lyrics also seem to indicate that when the shine wore off of their relationship, she began to think about Matty with whom she had some kind of encounter before beginning a relationship with Joe. In one instance we are talking about physical cheating, the other is emotional. It seems to me that cheating on an emotional level would be more damaging than a physical tryst, but, then again, what do I know? I'm definitely not an expert in this arena.
@@cy318 Taylor could have also proposed?? and wdym he play as a cheat in a drama series... so?? Taylor kisses many guys in her music videos does that mean she cheats on her current boyfriend at that time?? no right so please use some logic
Taylor's true love 💗 songs tend to be angst filled in a "I hope I find love worth this much pain" kind of way. So I think she has never found true love, even though she knows what it is like and really wants it. Besides, she clearly thinks proposing with insincere love is terrible (worse than cheating). Since multiple songs are about how the relationship with be cold ❄ and joyless. So she would want him not to propose if he did not genuinely want to. And would get extremely mad at him if he did.
@@cy318jeez, does that mean Michael C Hall is a serial killer & Bill Skarsgård is a vampire.?! Holy fuck! someone call the police! .. & quick smart with the wooden stakes! 🤣
The fact that it was so private is EXACTLY why everyone’s so curious and asking so many questions. Streisand effect and all. Can’t blame people for being curious about something they made a point to talk about, yet simultaneously try so intensely to hide. I mean come on now. And they’re not stupid, they know this well.
I hope Travis stops behaving like a High Schooler. His brother retired, is married with kids and seems more mature. There was Matt Healey after this Joe thing. This is why Joe kept mum. People who start asking nosy questions.
@@12567NoYouCannotTravis was on top of the world in his own arena WITHOUT Taylor. He didn’t need her!! He had national commercials, the #1 sports podcast, and not only had 2 Super Bowl wins, but is considered to be the greatest Tight End of all time!!! Travis in NO WAY needs Taylor to elevate himself. And if you listen to him, he constantly says he doesn’t deserve the attention & how wonderful Taylor is & how much she deserves it. He’s truly supporting her!
Travis has caught the jackpot and spotlight ! But when a couple is so much in the media, it never lasts… We’ll see after the Eras tour is over. Can he handle to be the « boyfriend of » forever ?
After a year with Joe she was happy too. Time will tell. Id really love for her to have it but I dont want them to bow to pressure to get married either. Both had long term relationships that imploded before each other and not a whole lot of time in between getting together.
My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys” was about Matt. The lyrics are about their second try, which ended up being a fling that he ended quickly and painfully. “oh here we go again..” Damn near whole album is Matt, not Joe.
Joe was never mentally available to be what Taylor needed past the first couple years of their relationship. Folklore does not contain Fortnight. You don't know a thing.
If I didn't get a proposal after two years, I asked questions, and then split. If he isn't talking marriage by two years, he isn't going to talk about it after 4 or 6 years. You either want it, or you don't, and it must be both. If it's not, you need to leave, move on, and find the real deal. These people that hang around and wait like it's some kind of long game....no.
TS is obviously a lezbeen. Look at pics of her with her 'boyfriend (of the month)' . Face deadpan, eyes downcast or not looking her 'lover' Minimal body contact. Contrast with pics of her with a gf. Pawing her like she's a lollipop.
@@richlisola1 she literally said in her beeakup song dedicated to joe that she died at the altar waiting for the proof, and that shes pissed she gave all that youth for free. Taylor has spoken about settling down and wanting a family for years. You must be a new swiftie. She was literally interviewed during the red era and asked where she sees herself in 10 years, and she said either with a family or knowing exactly when she wants to start her family.
@@Nicole-kc1vx -You have fallen into the mistake of taking a liar at their word. Taylor Swift has never admitted wrongdoing, in any scenario. Personal, friendship, relationship, business. Show me one well adjusted human being who hasn’t admitted wrongdoing.
I do not believe Taylor is lying. I do believe together she and Joe decided to hang onto their privacy, but I don't think what that meant to Taylor was that she would have to literally RUN from paparazzi, hide in her home for years, never be seen in an affectionate moment with Joe, and avoid being seen in public etc. I remember when Joe was asked by a reporter to name his favorite Taylor Swift song, and he refused. I think his behavior revealed time and again a resentment and jealousy associated with Taylor's extreme success, wealth, and popularity. Travis Kelce was asked a similar question when he was asked to name his top 3 favorite Taylor Swift songs. No problem! He named them, and the sky didn't fall, the earth was not pushed off its axis, and there was NO BREACH OF TRUE PRIVACY associated with his relationship with Taylor. Joe's behavior made it appear that he wanted Taylor to hide her fame and success like they were something shameful and also to hide herself from her fans. Taylor and Travis currently keep what needs to be private between just the two of them. At the same time, it appears Taylor wants a NORMAL life, or as normal as it can be. She wants to be able to go to dinner, take a walk in the park, go on a boat ride, and do what other people do in their lives. She understands there will be chaos around her, but she still wants to live her life and have fun. Joe did not want to marry Taylor after more than 6 years. That tells you everything you need to know. For whatever reason, it appears she was just being strung along year after year. The other thing I find peculiar about Joe is he kept even the most mundane information hush-hush when he dated Taylor for over 6 years. She has moved on with Travis, who is someone who celebrates his relationship with Taylor and is proud of her success and accomplishments, and NOW Joe wants to have his say. He is beyond ridiculous. Joe finally has what he always seemed to crave: total privacy and, to a certain degree, anonymity because he is no longer with Taylor, so does not have to "deal" with her fame and, on his own, he never achieved the level of fame associated with an A-lister. I think he should be grateful that he finally got what he wanted and should live the rest of his life enjoying what he always claimed to want. Finally, Joe should be grateful that Taylor allowed him to contribute to two songs as a co-writer and as a producer on a few other songs which left him with a stream of income that will provide well for him in the coming years. The graceful thing for him to do is to just say thank you and move on.
Joe Alwyn shud shut his mouth...he is just jealous of Idol Travis ..move on Boy Joe..its Travis time now...pls no comment against Taylor is the best you can do SHAME ON YOU...MOVE ON PERIOD
@@CeciliaDeGuia-b2g Just accept the fact that Joe's an introvert & reserved unlike the gregarious Travis.....so lets not bash him......Both men are totally different & on different fields /backgrounds.....Let them move on !!!
I'm sure he just wants to move on . I can't imagine what he has gone through with the press. Just leave the poor guy alone. He is a nice guy, or she would not have been with him for 6 years. 😢
I think she would accept his desire to keep things private. But she wanted a commitment, she wanted to get married. She was patient, he didn't want to pull the trigger, she let him go. I don't think it is any more complicated than that.
@@colleenporcina2303 Well if Joe did help co-write then he deserves it. I'm sure everyone involved agreed. I don't think he put his name there by himself 🙄
6 years she wasted most marriages sometimes last five years the most. Taylor should realize that he was not committed to their relationship, I give her a lot of courage and self determination to walk away.
I’m a swiftie and Joe alwyn deserves the biggest apology. He made Taylor happy for 6 years. yes Travis and Taylor are cute but it’s not the same as Joe and Taylor. That’s my opinion.
Im sure she loved him but not being yourself and being cooped up because of her celebrity wouldve sucked! They fell in love and he was what she needed at the time and she was what he needed mabie but it ran its course. Taylor needs to get out there more while she is still young. She wasted her youth on him in my opinion.
Her fans are so dumb. This fake relationship is for publicity. They are just a tính and fans are eating it up. Lol making them rich by making the fans more poor.
Honestly, i feel like he wants to stay relevant by using his breakup with T.S. doing interviews. I never knew him until he started dating her, and now, I'm definitely gonna forget that he existed.
Ffs, he's doing press rounds for the movie he's in, it's contractual.. He knew he was going to be grilled on the split so decided to address it once & get out over with so he could concentrate on talking about shit other than taylor swift.. You people are delusional he's always done promos for his work, did you expect him to quit his career just because you can't deal with the fact he didn't want people like you in his life? 🙄 Grow up
Someone literally asked him and he absolutely have the right to speak for him. Taylor always humiliated her exes in song but they can't speak up? Lol. He dumped her long ago and don't give a sh!t on her. Delulu Swifties.
No way he was just as famous! She's actually famous he was just a football star big difference. Nobody knows if they are in love yet, it's still the romantic phase.
Did you even listen to TTPD? She clearly states she cheated. Guilty as Sin contains her emotionally cheating on him and Fresh out the Slammer mentions that she wrote letters to Matty. You swifties don't got any sense I swear. If Joe cheated she would have shouted it to the rooftops. But she only ever accused him because she's an insecure little girl trapped inside of a 40 year olds body.
Does she? She seems as lukewarm about the idea of relationships as always. Only seeming to be in it for the convenience of having someone for sex/as a line runner. It is just the man ♂ feels strongly as society thinks women are incapable of thinking for themselves. Being easily manipulated like draft oxen 🐂. Don't really blame her. Since society would complain if she just started hooking up with men to avoid leading them on.
Joe is absolutely right just leave him alone he moved on and he is happy and Taylor might be engaged so they both moved on so everyone else needs to move on and just be happy Joe because you deserve it
Or writing with her. Never paid her one compliment, just continued with the origins of his writing name in the writing credits that she gave him; making him millions now. Just for writing songs with his longtime “girlfriend”…. Didn’t realize that he wanted to be paid for having fun together.
He acted like he was ashamed to be seen with her or confirm that they actually were a couple.. And Maybe he was jelous about her being Much more famous than him might have bothered Joe.. And didnt he also cheated on Taylor? And thats why his pal, RYAN was angry with him!? And dropped him?? Well in my experience The cheater are often the biggest liar as well! Just saying … WHOs the biggest liar here ? JOE? Well Taylor & Travis looks so much better together than Taylor and Joe ever did.. in my eyes Maybe its Joes introvert that made it so, anyhow Im glad she seems to have a man thats proud of her & is over the moon for her, cos i think she deserves that after everything thats been happening from Kanyes stunt! (I knew who Taylor was then but I didnt know who Kanye was when it happened, i didnt follow the rap music very much.. I HAD NO IDEA who Kanye was but I knew Taylor’s name 😂😂
Ryan unfollowed him because Taylor is a crybaby and can't be mature. And no Joe didn't cheat because there would be EVIDENCE but there's plenty of proof that Taylor cheated on him with MATTY.
Taylor is more popular and all fans love her, if Joe support her there will be no split. The right person is out there for Taylor and his name is Travis her real Soulmate!
Travis and Joe are day and night in comparison this is what they are saying nobody knows what is in store for you till you find it Taylor is living a new life that is unrealistic she deserves the best and lucky enough to find Travis .
4:10 is simply wrong...its not the album folklore that contains the mentioned lyrics, its the song fortnight from the albung "the tortured poets department"
He a jerk I never heard of him before Taylor was seen with him and I don’t think much about him . Travis is a better man and will take care of Taylor the way she needs. Oh, and is such a joke go away and try to marry that girl she’s never been happier and you too. Oh and you never deserved her. That brand of her is so big I don’t know how it fits into her head, she is a beautiful person inside and out and she treats her feels like they are her friend. She never got a big head. Her parents raised a lovely daughter and I give them so much credit. 11:16
The moment Joe ask to hide away showed he was not ready to be a partner or have a relationship. Again there is no way to ever know. But I'm team TS all the way 😊
Joe was jealous of her fame. He cheated on her. He kept her hid away and didn’t want to be seen with her. He gets money from her albums that’s what he wanted. She’s better off with Travis. Travis is proud of her and loves to be seen out in public together. So Joe can just keep on walking
Oh, honey. Talk about delusional. First off she took his songs. He didn't even want to be on her album. He was simply bored during the pandemic. He never wanted her fame. If he did then he'd talk about her in every single damn interview but he never did. And he didn't cheat on her but she most definitely cheated on him. Your idol should be ashamed.
Travis is not the real deal, either. Taylor went out of her way to post Travis on the pic with Prince Willingly and children, tagged him, allowed him to be on HER stage after HE ASKED HER, she posted a video of him and yet he has not posted one single thing about her on any of his social media platforms. For 80% of Season 2 of New Heights, they never even said Taylor’s name. Not even when she wore a hat to promote his podcast. Just mentioned the color and that it was back in stock. Disgusting. Where’s her merch on him?? Not even an Era’s hat. It was never a question; she would never be on HIS podcast. She didn’t go on the road with the podcast and then he scheduled a MUSIC FESTIVAL for after she was back on tour. He couldn’t take the risk of having the attention on HER and not HIM. As if Taylor would ever do that on purpose, like he does. He showed up at her concert directly after his teammates wedding, knowing full well that the media would be insane about the early surprise. His PR company is really working overtime on him and his brand. Taylor is the best brand deal he’ll ever get and he knows it. Her concerts have become “is Travvy there?” “Travvvy is in the tent. OMG. Look. He’s dancing.” When can she have her spotlight back from him? Joe never tried to take any fame away from her and that’s Travis’ MO. He wants to be in entertainment and he had a plan to be with the top of the entertainment industry to help him. Catching Kelce flopped and got no calls for any future projects. Enter Taylor Swift: 2 shows coming this fall. (But he did that all on his own all of a sudden. BS!). Look how much SHE has HELPED HIM, but HE has not done ONE THING to HELP HER. He has yet to even defend her on anything. The flack from the 25 seconds of camera time during his games was too much for grown men. Did Travis make any statements about that to the media?? No. He just let her take it, but still expected her to show up at every game; which she did. To see him overshadowing her concerts is absolutely disgusting to me. She doesn’t do that to him during football games, and has even told the cameras to go away. Yet Travis cannot get enough attention - so he had the audacity to ask to be on her stage. Who does that? Even a talented and accomplished musician wouldn’t ask Taylor but he’s entitled now. The arrogance is definitely astounding and a huge red flag. The mere fact that we know he had his ex all over his social media before but he has not posted ANYTHING about Taylor speaks volumes about his true feelings. Not just when he is all smiles for HER fans and the media. That’s just a boy trying to make it to the top and he’s going to hurt her. If he were serious, he’d have made it IG official like Taylor did. That was a huge step for her and he didn’t reciprocate. He still has lingerie clad women on there, though. He’s even hidden a few posts. He wants people to think he’s serious because he’s so narcissistic that he can’t get enough attention. Joe was a gentleman who stayed behind the stage or in the tent, but didn’t make an entrance in the lights. He waited until the lights went out. Travis? Nope. He and his entourage enter front and center to make sure cameras get so many shots of them. It’s beyond disgusting that he wants more cameras on him than Taylor. Then to be on her stage and not post a thank you to HER (but does to Kam) is just vile, disrespectful and ungrateful. She deserves a MAN who is happy to be next to her, not in front of her. Kelce will never be the man who supports her; only uses her for the things that she can provide him. Facts. Idc if you don’t agree with me but you can not deny anything I said. 😡💔🤢👎🏻
Wow! I've never thought of this perspective. It makes sense but for Taylor's sake i really hope that this is just reaching because she doesn't deserve to be hurt any longer. Lets just hope Travis is a little immature who thinks theres no point on posting her on IG. idk man your point is so clear and evident im scared for her now.
Wow that's an angle I haven't seen. But look how proud he is of her, he cries at her seranedes, he looks ans smiles at her while walking hand in hand, he's very affectionate towards her in public, unlike Joey who couldn't even look at her in all media pics. I was thinking your way too at the start, but he showers her with gifts, he puts her needs first. He's not afraid of paps. Social media is scum. He does not need to prove to public his relationship. He's the kind of guy I would date.❤ Love from Australia..
OMG!! Can we be friends, lol. Finally, someone who's grounded. You are 1000% right. All Swifties see is what's in front of them and follow the crowd. He is in love with the entertainer, not the person, and is soaking up all the ins and outs of the business while benefiting from it. He loves the attention. It's way too obvious. It makes me cringe that people actually think this is "love" just because he's dancing at her concerts, holding hands, or going out for dinner. My head explodes after reading Swiftie comments. My message to all Swifties is: go outside and TOUCH GRASS!!
@@candlelights._.He knows exactly what he's doing; it's obvious. He craves attention. I'm not a Taylor fan, but I hope she dumps him. Right now, it brings attention to the tour, but the tour will end, the curtains will close, and I hope that will be her awakening. He won't be the one initiating the breakup. He knows he's got a cash cow.
For people who says she had too many boyfriends, she doesn't have to stay in bad relationships. She dates, not one night stands. 13 boyfriends for a 34 year old is normal. Most men sleep with like 50 or more nobody bats an eye
I'm tired of people defending Taylor swift , she makes OUTSTANDING MUSIC BUT 13 BOYFRIENDS FOR A 34 YEAR IS TOO MUCH STOP BEING IN DENIAL 1-3 is normal anything ovdr that is too much. Delete this comment NOW! you disgust me
13 is definitely not normal. And I'm pretty sure it's past 13 because you have no idea how many 1 nighters she's had. 50!? Disgusting. This world is a mess.
The album folklore contains the lyrics:For a Fortnight there we were forever running til you sometimes ask about the weather, GURLLL THATS TTPDDDDDDD HOW DARE U edit:and she aint have a husband like bro shut up
Joe did not split from Taylor. Taylor slit from Joe. Her song about your losing me was written before Joe even understood Taylor and he were done. So he is the liar. Evidence my friends evidence. And Taylors song about him visiting pubs and doing god knows what is also a big point against him. He is a jerk.
Everyone has relationships long or short and it doesn’t work. They have both moved on and they both are happy that’s all that should matter. It’s in the past now.
Wow whoever put this together is a real piece of work. It is truly a shame that videos like this exist, I wish the ridiculous sounding narrator could experience life under a microscope like celebrities do, maybe if the paparazzi truly understood how harmful they are they would leave celebrities alone…
Poor Joe I think you mean Poor Taylor she wasted 6 years with a guy who treated her like Trash, Cheated on Her oh and by the way she wanted to marry him and he didn’t!! Poor Joe yeah right 😂
@@Jess-y7cThe delulu is strong! You mean she wasted his time! They literally bought a house together before she went on tour. He wanted to marry Taylor, not Taylor Swift. I hope you feel proud that she chose you guys over true love. Watch her die alone at 40 with a house full of cats. And for the last time, SHE CHEATED ON JOE WITH MATT HEALY! Joe didn't cheat but he should have. 😑
Honesty: No one knows what really happened. All this shxx is speculation. I am sure they loved each other during this time. Women gotta wake up if he doesn’t put a ring on it, it’s cause he really isn’t in to you. 🤦🏻♀️ Plus T is no angel she seems she can have a snotty and spoiled attitude. He did write some of her songs. Honestly her songs are childish. Not a fan of her music. She is a serial dater which is her prerogative but she needs therapy so she can learn to respect herself and others more. Good luck to them both. 👏💪☮️🙏
So they wanted to keep it quiet and private, then when they break away from each other she writes songs about them, like all her other boyfriends. Something wrong with her in my opinion
No one except Gigi Hadid would know who Joe Alwyn is right now.. if Taylor hadn't dated him. He was with her more for the fame of her rather than her..He wanted to be famous... the whole, we want our relationship to be private was to have some control ..of her. He's the type of guy to appear perfect on the outside, says what is expected of a good guy, but deep down, he is the most important person in his life. She is a giver, he is a taker.
Oh, dear. What the heck do you even mean right now? If Joe was using her and wanting fame, don't you think he would want to talk about her and walk the carpet with her? Don't you think he would have used his real name instead of William Bowery? Taylor told the world about him writing songs with her. He then went on Kelly Clarkson because Taylor probably made him. Joe wanted to keep that stuff private. A clout chaser wanting fame wouldn't want privacy.
I'm sorry but didn't he book his first movie role with Oscar winning director Ang Lee before he even met Taylor? His career probably would've done better if he was dating someone actually likable. Like I dunno maybe a singer who can actually sing? He deserved better than that cheater.
Well, seeing as he’s a private man. Being known was hardly a boon for him, nor for his lifestyle. He didn’t seek anything from her, beyond what any man wants from a relationship with a woman he cares for.
We don’t know exactly what they went through in those 6 years…people say he cheated, maybe she cheated too..every story has two sides and this is coming from a swiftie.
It’s easy to blame it all on Joe when we don’t even know what happened. All speculations. But the important thing is:
Taylor seems to be happy now and I wish Joe the same 😊❤️
Thats kind of what it sounds like. I suspect she got with Joe to move on from Matty Healy after an intense fling but never really closed the book. Then when issues started and she felt lonely with Joe she leaned back into Matty. At the very least it really seems like from her lyrics she at least emotionally cheated. Some of her lyrics sound like matty love bombed and manipulated her then when she did finally leave Joe to go be with him he bailed on her. You dont write 18 songs on an album for someone you dated 3 months. A lot of those songs are def not just Joe songs.
Totally agree. Sticking strictly to the lyrics, it appears Taylor believes Joe cheated on her. Her lyrics also seem to indicate that when the shine wore off of their relationship, she began to think about Matty with whom she had some kind of encounter before beginning a relationship with Joe.
In one instance we are talking about physical cheating, the other is emotional. It seems to me that cheating on an emotional level would be more damaging than a physical tryst, but, then again, what do I know? I'm definitely not an expert in this arena.
If he cheated Taylor wouldn't hold back and write a whole album about it, so that didn't happen
She cheated on him with Matty. Joe didn't cheat on her but he should have!
But sometimes there just one side!
It's good they realized they are just not right for one another. It doesn't make either of them wrong or bad. Just not right for each other.
Exactly.
He was unfaithful
@@dihardingwe don’t know that. Shouldn’t throw stones without facts or proof. Besides she ended up in a much better relationship.
@@dihardingShe is a unfaithful
Exactly
Every story has three sides -- his, hers and the truth.
yes you nailed it right, so true.
😂
I heard plenty from her side, especially guilty as sin. And I sure hope she does feel guilty but karma got her when Matty left.
I say that all the time, I don’t know why people think it’s only two.
@@Cassandra_17 Taylor's songs from Reputation onwards are mostly fictional.
Clickbait - This video doesn’t really let us hear what Joe actually said - just some guy saying what he claims was said, if that makes sense.
Six years of no commitment from Alwyn is an explanation all by itself.
Its better to not get married if they are growing apart and they realise it
Staying with somebody that long and no marriage . Wasn't he in a series where he plays a cheater?
@@cy318 Taylor could have also proposed?? and wdym he play as a cheat in a drama series... so?? Taylor kisses many guys in her music videos does that mean she cheats on her current boyfriend at that time?? no right so please use some logic
Taylor's true love 💗 songs tend to be angst filled in a "I hope I find love worth this much pain" kind of way.
So I think she has never found true love, even though she knows what it is like and really wants it.
Besides, she clearly thinks proposing with insincere love is terrible (worse than cheating). Since multiple songs are about how the relationship with be cold ❄ and joyless.
So she would want him not to propose if he did not genuinely want to. And would get extremely mad at him if he did.
@@cy318jeez, does that mean Michael C Hall is a serial killer & Bill Skarsgård is a vampire.?! Holy fuck! someone call the police! .. & quick smart with the wooden stakes! 🤣
Why would anyone have to be in the wrong? They split; move on.
Relationship was private. It should stay private now.
Tell that to Taylor.
The fact that it was so private is EXACTLY why everyone’s so curious and asking so many questions. Streisand effect and all. Can’t blame people for being curious about something they made a point to talk about, yet simultaneously try so intensely to hide. I mean come on now. And they’re not stupid, they know this well.
Taylor and kylie
Taylor said Joe is an introvert. He didnt like the spotlight. Travis can handle her fame and is not afraid of it. Travis and Taylor seem perfect.
Travis WANTS THE ATTENTION SO BAD!!!!! He is USING TAYLOR for HIS OWN FAME. Travis is ENJOYING ALL the EXTRA ATTENTION.
I hope Travis stops behaving like a High Schooler. His brother retired, is married with kids and seems more mature. There was Matt Healey after this Joe thing. This is why Joe kept mum. People who start asking nosy questions.
@@12567NoYouCannotTravis was on top of the world in his own arena WITHOUT Taylor. He didn’t need her!! He had national commercials, the #1 sports podcast, and not only had 2 Super Bowl wins, but is considered to be the greatest Tight End of all time!!! Travis in NO WAY needs Taylor to elevate himself. And if you listen to him, he constantly says he doesn’t deserve the attention & how wonderful Taylor is & how much she deserves it. He’s truly supporting her!
Temporary...
Travis has caught the jackpot and spotlight ! But when a couple is so much in the media, it never lasts… We’ll see after the Eras tour is over. Can he handle to be the « boyfriend of » forever ?
She looks happier now. Enough for me.
Happier for today....another day another man and another album. But she is the real deal and incredibly talented.
@@dianemurray4826Typical misogynist stereotype
After a year with Joe she was happy too. Time will tell. Id really love for her to have it but I dont want them to bow to pressure to get married either. Both had long term relationships that imploded before each other and not a whole lot of time in between getting together.
So does he
She’s never sad. She doesn’t do sad.
My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys” was about Matt. The lyrics are about their second try, which ended up being a fling that he ended quickly and painfully. “oh here we go again..” Damn near whole album is Matt, not Joe.
ik so much errors in this video tbhh
Personally, it's good to hear both sides. I'm glad he FINALLY spoke.
Joe was never mentally available to be what Taylor needed past the first couple years of their relationship. Folklore does not contain Fortnight. You don't know a thing.
For what Taylor needed? What about what he needed.
I was gonna say isn’t Fortnight on TTPD Album?
Omg
If I didn't get a proposal after two years, I asked questions, and then split. If he isn't talking marriage by two years, he isn't going to talk about it after 4 or 6 years. You either want it, or you don't, and it must be both. If it's not, you need to leave, move on, and find the real deal. These people that hang around and wait like it's some kind of long game....no.
TS is obviously a lezbeen. Look at pics of her with her 'boyfriend (of the month)' . Face deadpan, eyes downcast or not looking her 'lover' Minimal body contact.
Contrast with pics of her with a gf. Pawing her like she's a lollipop.
Agreed
Taylor gives no true indication of seeking marriage.
@@richlisola1 she literally said in her beeakup song dedicated to joe that she died at the altar waiting for the proof, and that shes pissed she gave all that youth for free. Taylor has spoken about settling down and wanting a family for years.
You must be a new swiftie.
She was literally interviewed during the red era and asked where she sees herself in 10 years, and she said either with a family or knowing exactly when she wants to start her family.
@@Nicole-kc1vx -You have fallen into the mistake of taking a liar at their word.
Taylor Swift has never admitted wrongdoing, in any scenario. Personal, friendship, relationship, business.
Show me one well adjusted human being who hasn’t admitted wrongdoing.
I do not believe Taylor is lying. I do believe together she and Joe decided to hang onto their privacy, but I don't think what that meant to Taylor was that she would have to literally RUN from paparazzi, hide in her home for years, never be seen in an affectionate moment with Joe, and avoid being seen in public etc.
I remember when Joe was asked by a reporter to name his favorite Taylor Swift song, and he refused. I think his behavior revealed time and again a resentment and jealousy associated with Taylor's extreme success, wealth, and popularity. Travis Kelce was asked a similar question when he was asked to name his top 3 favorite Taylor Swift songs. No problem! He named them, and the sky didn't fall, the earth was not pushed off its axis, and there was NO BREACH OF TRUE PRIVACY associated with his relationship with Taylor. Joe's behavior made it appear that he wanted Taylor to hide her fame and success like they were something shameful and also to hide herself from her fans.
Taylor and Travis currently keep what needs to be private between just the two of them. At the same time, it appears Taylor wants a NORMAL life, or as normal as it can be. She wants to be able to go to dinner, take a walk in the park, go on a boat ride, and do what other people do in their lives. She understands there will be chaos around her, but she still wants to live her life and have fun.
Joe did not want to marry Taylor after more than 6 years. That tells you everything you need to know. For whatever reason, it appears she was just being strung along year after year.
The other thing I find peculiar about Joe is he kept even the most mundane information hush-hush when he dated Taylor for over 6 years. She has moved on with Travis, who is someone who celebrates his relationship with Taylor and is proud of her success and accomplishments, and NOW Joe wants to have his say. He is beyond ridiculous.
Joe finally has what he always seemed to crave: total privacy and, to a certain degree, anonymity because he is no longer with Taylor, so does not have to "deal" with her fame and, on his own, he never achieved the level of fame associated with an A-lister. I think he should be grateful that he finally got what he wanted and should live the rest of his life enjoying what he always claimed to want.
Finally, Joe should be grateful that Taylor allowed him to contribute to two songs as a co-writer and as a producer on a few other songs which left him with a stream of income that will provide well for him in the coming years. The graceful thing for him to do is to just say thank you and move on.
Exactly
Joe Alwyn shud shut his mouth...he is just jealous of Idol Travis ..move on Boy Joe..its Travis time now...pls no comment against Taylor is the best you can do SHAME ON YOU...MOVE ON PERIOD
HE IS A CHEATER...NOT TAYLOR IS A LIAR...SHAME ON YOU JOE ALWYN...MOVE ON BOY JOE
@@CeciliaDeGuia-b2g Just accept the fact that Joe's an introvert & reserved unlike the gregarious Travis.....so lets not bash him......Both men are totally different & on different fields /backgrounds.....Let them move on !!!
I totally agree with the resentment part. I sensed it too :/ it’s like he wasn’t proud of her success and didn’t want to celebrate it with her 😢
I'm sure he just wants to move on . I can't imagine what he has gone through with the press. Just leave the poor guy alone. He is a nice guy, or she would not have been with him for 6 years. 😢
I second your opinion
He knew what he was signing on for when he got involved in the first place
@@KB-ql8cxCould say that about everyone that ends up broken up. When you love someone you always think you can handle it until you can't.
@@KB-ql8cxNo, he didn’t. He knew on paper, but you gotta live it to know it.
I think she would accept his desire to keep things private. But she wanted a commitment, she wanted to get married. She was patient, he didn't want to pull the trigger, she let him go. I don't think it is any more complicated than that.
Oh there’s far more to it than that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Better suited with Travis, both stars both enjoy the spotlight and know how to handle it.
both idiots
Notice how she had to look for Joe after her show while Travis is waiting for her
Joe struggled with her fame. Yeah…he struggled all the way to the bank.
This is gold😂😂
😂😂😂
@@jewely9757 Travis is struggling all the way to the bank. I’ll soon see your same comment about him b
@@ladybug68776Taylor gave Joe writing credit on a couple of her songs. Joe will never worry about money again.
@@colleenporcina2303 Well if Joe did help co-write then he deserves it.
I'm sure everyone involved agreed. I don't think he put his name there by himself
🙄
Is anyone going to talk about the factual inconsistency of this video or...is it just me?
it’s called pop whisper, what u expect?
@@bkirstie Haha true 🤣
I don’t think any swiftie hates him. They had a good relationship but they wanted different things. People grow a lot in 6 years.
What bullcrap. All the clips are from different interviews, different years, different subjects even.
I hate to say but I’m glad Taylor moved on from Joe,,, she’s much happier with Travis Kelce!
I think Joe is immensely happier without Swift’s narcissistic games and baggage.
She’s got more baggage than a bag lady.
Will see how long that will last.
I’m waiting for the Travis Kelsie song(s) 🍿
Haha... So is he.
There are already a couple about him...;)
6 years she wasted most marriages sometimes last five years the most. Taylor should realize that he was not committed to their relationship, I give her a lot of courage and self determination to walk away.
The way she runs at the beginning 😂
When did Fortnight became a part of folklore?
I’m a swiftie and Joe alwyn deserves the biggest apology. He made Taylor happy for 6 years. yes Travis and Taylor are cute but it’s not the same as Joe and Taylor. That’s my opinion.
Im sure she loved him but not being yourself and being cooped up because of her celebrity wouldve sucked! They fell in love and he was what she needed at the time and she was what he needed mabie but it ran its course. Taylor needs to get out there more while she is still young. She wasted her youth on him in my opinion.
She is better off with Travis. He is not imitated by her fame! Travis loves her for who she is! 🫶❤️
Smart move on Joe's part .. Taylor Swift is one messed up carbon copy of J o .
Facts
Her fans are so dumb. This fake relationship is for publicity. They are just a tính and fans are eating it up. Lol making them rich by making the fans more poor.
Honestly, i feel like he wants to stay relevant by using his breakup with T.S. doing interviews. I never knew him until he started dating her, and now, I'm definitely gonna forget that he existed.
Ffs, he's doing press rounds for the movie he's in, it's contractual.. He knew he was going to be grilled on the split so decided to address it once & get out over with so he could concentrate on talking about shit other than taylor swift.. You people are delusional he's always done promos for his work, did you expect him to quit his career just because you can't deal with the fact he didn't want people like you in his life? 🙄 Grow up
Someone literally asked him and he absolutely have the right to speak for him. Taylor always humiliated her exes in song but they can't speak up? Lol. He dumped her long ago and don't give a sh!t on her. Delulu Swifties.
Taylor is fake
I feel Travis loves her no doubt,and shows it,he is just as famous as she is
@@patwarner6757 Travis loves the entertainer and what that entertainer has done for him. Period. Let’s talk again once the curtain closes.
@@ladybug68776Yes, let's. You'll be surprised I think...
Never heard of him till now😢
No way he was just as famous! She's actually famous he was just a football star big difference. Nobody knows if they are in love yet, it's still the romantic phase.
Not being a caged up for 7 years and him cheating and ignoring her!
Did you even listen to TTPD? She clearly states she cheated. Guilty as Sin contains her emotionally cheating on him and Fresh out the Slammer mentions that she wrote letters to Matty. You swifties don't got any sense I swear. If Joe cheated she would have shouted it to the rooftops. But she only ever accused him because she's an insecure little girl trapped inside of a 40 year olds body.
@@Cassandra_17 oh! Looks like mr. obsessed with Taylor Swift is back
Nice production, but I'll wait for the 60 Minutes interview.
Terrible production. He said Fortnight was on Folklore. The dufus knows nothing.
She ran to Joe the same way she runs to Travis 🤮
Exactly. I love her but all this Travis stuff is way too much.
She is so fake.
I think Joe needs another 15 years to grow into his face; then he'll have a kind of rugged Redford-esque thing going on.
I agree.
And Taylor needs 25 more years to grow into her body.
TAYLOR HAS LOVE IN HER EYES FOR TRAVIS 🧨🧨
They broke up
@@no0clue0808no they didn’t
She seems so much happier with Travis.
No one knows if she is, he is new its always great at first, give them years and then talk.
It's only been a year.
all narcissists seem much happier for the first year- two years of a new supply
Does she?
She seems as lukewarm about the idea of relationships as always. Only seeming to be in it for the convenience of having someone for sex/as a line runner.
It is just the man ♂ feels strongly as society thinks women are incapable of thinking for themselves. Being easily manipulated like draft oxen 🐂.
Don't really blame her. Since society would complain if she just started hooking up with men to avoid leading them on.
Does she though?
I see no evidence of her liking him for more than the convenience of sex/having a personal assistant.
Please stop it miserable people no shame Taylor is happy that’s all the matters have some shame
Joe is absolutely right just leave him alone he moved on and he is happy and Taylor might be engaged so they both moved on so everyone else needs to move on and just be happy Joe because you deserve it
Lying headline again He didn't say she's a liar. Shame on you for making things up.
Only Joe knows who Taylor truly is
Yes they both know each other well. They were never a couple.
he seemed like a douche when the question was asked about doing a movie together.
Swifty comment
Doesn’t make it untrue, the truth is the truth…@lisamurray8776
Or writing with her. Never paid her one compliment, just continued with the origins of his writing name in the writing credits that she gave him; making him millions now. Just for writing songs with his longtime “girlfriend”…. Didn’t realize that he wanted to be paid for having fun together.
@@NYandAZ don’t you think she had to agree with that, genius.
@@NYandAZ or do you think he went behind her back and just added his name without anyone noticing.
Joe is obviously very good looking but Travis is good looking plus more!!! I am a true Taylor and Travis fan.
Wat does good looking bring to the table
Stop judging a book by its cover.
@@ladybug68776 Welll, I like Travis's book cover better than Joe's.
@@rosellawerbicki good for you. Do you want a prize.
@@ladybug68776 If you have one for me, sure I love prizes.
He acted like he was ashamed to be seen with her or confirm that they actually were a couple.. And Maybe he was jelous about her being Much more famous than him might have bothered Joe..
And didnt he also cheated on Taylor? And thats why his pal, RYAN was angry with him!? And dropped him??
Well in my experience The cheater are often the biggest liar as well! Just saying … WHOs the biggest liar here ? JOE?
Well Taylor & Travis looks so much better together than Taylor and Joe ever did.. in my eyes
Maybe its Joes introvert that made it so, anyhow Im glad she seems to have a man thats proud of her & is over the moon for her, cos i think she deserves that after everything thats been happening from Kanyes stunt! (I knew who Taylor was then but I didnt know who Kanye was when it happened, i didnt follow the rap music very much.. I HAD NO IDEA who Kanye was but I knew Taylor’s name 😂😂
Ryan unfollowed him because Taylor is a crybaby and can't be mature. And no Joe didn't cheat because there would be EVIDENCE but there's plenty of proof that Taylor cheated on him with MATTY.
@@Cassandra_17 mr. OBSESSED with Taylor Swift
Oh get over it already, people!!!🙄🙄 This happens all the time? You forgot Matt.
Joe is cheating on her Because he's dating the same girl that he was accused of cheating with After him and Taylor broke up
Joe told you that?
Who cares it is none of our business. She has moved on and he is the past
What did she lie about? The thumbnail to this video is a lie lol
Taylor is more popular and all fans love her, if Joe support her there will be no split. The right person is out there for Taylor and his name is Travis her real Soulmate!
Of course all the Swifties are in Tays pocket! They gonna blame all on Joe.
That’s because they’re all bat shit crazy. They need to touch grass. Get a grip.
not me, I'm a Swiftie that's very critical of her and I think she was the one who messed up the relationship
@@miladeseitan Finally a smart swifty 🙂. Welcome to the real world
It doesnt matter she found her soulmate
Move on, Joe, she has found her true end game!
Kid swifty comment
actually they broke up in 2023 and taylor released the breakup album at 2024 so we knows who hasnt been able to moved on perfectly...
@@autumneevee2216 At the grammys she said she was hiding a secret for two years. Her new album.
@@Julilovesapple and?? she wrote it in 2022 but released it in 2024...
@@autumneevee2216 That means she moved on.
Travis and Joe are day and night in comparison this is what they are saying nobody knows what is in store for you till you find it Taylor is living a new life that is unrealistic she deserves the best and lucky enough to find Travis .
Joe is past history ....get over it ...
Yet here you are. Practice what you Preach.
4:11 should be the lyrics of Fortnight, and it has NOTHING to do with the Folklore album. I hate this AI stuff. It’s so lazy.
4:10 is simply wrong...its not the album folklore that contains the mentioned lyrics, its the song fortnight from the albung "the tortured poets department"
He’s such a doll ❤❤ but he cheated
No ❤❤ Taylor cheated ❤❤ she's disgusting ❤❤❤
They don't want it private that's why they talk about it.
She's too much. Common denominator is her.
He a jerk I never heard of him before Taylor was seen with him and I don’t think much about him . Travis is a better man and will take care of Taylor the way she needs. Oh, and is such a joke go away and try to marry that girl she’s never been happier and you too. Oh and you never deserved her. That brand of her is so big I don’t know how it fits into her head, she is a beautiful person inside and out and she treats her feels like they are her friend. She never got a big head. Her parents raised a lovely daughter and I give them so much credit. 11:16
The moment Joe ask to hide away showed he was not ready to be a partner or have a relationship. Again there is no way to ever know. But I'm team TS all the way 😊
No he did not. He never said anything. And really it's no one's business.
I get it. The longer you are in a relationship you actually become more like brother and sister. When the sex gets old, it is time to move on.
Joe was jealous of her fame. He cheated on her. He kept her hid away and didn’t want to be seen with her. He gets money from her albums that’s what he wanted. She’s better off with Travis. Travis is proud of her and loves to be seen out in public together. So Joe can just keep on walking
Saids who TS. You all act as if she’s some god. I’m here to tell you she’s far from a God. Go outside and touch grass.
@@ladybug68776 Love the Travis reference my fellow 92 % er 😂😂😂 Go outside and touch grass ...
@@ladybug68776 But I do think that Joe guy looks like a twat ... just saying
@@ladybug68776 Her fans are wild like that they actually call her mother and treat her like an idol.
Oh, honey. Talk about delusional. First off she took his songs. He didn't even want to be on her album. He was simply bored during the pandemic. He never wanted her fame. If he did then he'd talk about her in every single damn interview but he never did. And he didn't cheat on her but she most definitely cheated on him. Your idol should be ashamed.
Not every love story lasts forever. Relationship end for many reasons. Nobody is perfect. It appears that they have parted amicably.
He is extremely handsome and his accent is sexy!
He cheated on her….therefore, the song The Black Dog….ask Ryan Reynolds..he’ll confirm…and he was hiding her away and not allowing her to be herself.
Only as per her. 2-sides to a story. Go outside an touch grass!
Proof?
Didn’t think so.
And if he did? So what? She’s a serial cheating slore.
@@janicemackie611
It’s about Matt, the unstable one, with dependency issues
I totally understand "growing apart". I was with my ex husband 24 years n thats exactly wut happened to us.
Seems like she’s over Joe. Hope she’s over J. Biden too.
She should be.. he’s brain dead ☠️
Travis is not the real deal, either. Taylor went out of her way to post Travis on the pic with Prince Willingly and children, tagged him, allowed him to be on HER stage after HE ASKED HER, she posted a video of him and yet he has not posted one single thing about her on any of his social media platforms.
For 80% of Season 2 of New Heights, they never even said Taylor’s name. Not even when she wore a hat to promote his podcast. Just mentioned the color and that it was back in stock. Disgusting. Where’s her merch on him?? Not even an Era’s hat. It was never a question; she would never be on HIS podcast. She didn’t go on the road with the podcast and then he scheduled a MUSIC FESTIVAL for after she was back on tour. He couldn’t take the risk of having the attention on HER and not HIM. As if Taylor would ever do that on purpose, like he does. He showed up at her concert directly after his teammates wedding, knowing full well that the media would be insane about the early surprise. His PR company is really working overtime on him and his brand. Taylor is the best brand deal he’ll ever get and he knows it. Her concerts have become “is Travvy there?” “Travvvy is in the tent. OMG. Look. He’s dancing.”
When can she have her spotlight back from him? Joe never tried to take any fame away from her and that’s Travis’ MO. He wants to be in entertainment and he had a plan to be with the top of the entertainment industry to help him. Catching Kelce flopped and got no calls for any future projects. Enter Taylor Swift: 2 shows coming this fall. (But he did that all on his own all of a sudden. BS!). Look how much SHE has HELPED HIM, but HE has not done ONE THING to HELP HER. He has yet to even defend her on anything. The flack from the 25 seconds of camera time during his games was too much for grown men. Did Travis make any statements about that to the media?? No. He just let her take it, but still expected her to show up at every game; which she did. To see him overshadowing her concerts is absolutely disgusting to me. She doesn’t do that to him during football games, and has even told the cameras to go away. Yet Travis cannot get enough attention - so he had the audacity to ask to be on her stage. Who does that? Even a talented and accomplished musician wouldn’t ask Taylor but he’s entitled now. The arrogance is definitely astounding and a huge red flag. The mere fact that we know he had his ex all over his social media before but he has not posted ANYTHING about Taylor speaks volumes about his true feelings. Not just when he is all smiles for HER fans and the media. That’s just a boy trying to make it to the top and he’s going to hurt her. If he were serious, he’d have made it IG official like Taylor did. That was a huge step for her and he didn’t reciprocate. He still has lingerie clad women on there, though. He’s even hidden a few posts. He wants people to think he’s serious because he’s so narcissistic that he can’t get enough attention. Joe was a gentleman who stayed behind the stage or in the tent, but didn’t make an entrance in the lights. He waited until the lights went out. Travis? Nope. He and his entourage enter front and center to make sure cameras get so many shots of them. It’s beyond disgusting that he wants more cameras on him than Taylor. Then to be on her stage and not post a thank you to HER (but does to Kam) is just vile, disrespectful and ungrateful.
She deserves a MAN who is happy to be next to her, not in front of her. Kelce will never be the man who supports her; only uses her for the things that she can provide him. Facts. Idc if you don’t agree with me but you can not deny anything I said. 😡💔🤢👎🏻
Wow! I've never thought of this perspective. It makes sense but for Taylor's sake i really hope that this is just reaching because she doesn't deserve to be hurt any longer. Lets just hope Travis is a little immature who thinks theres no point on posting her on IG. idk man your point is so clear and evident im scared for her now.
I so hope you're wrong. Must admit I thought he was enjoying it a little too much but hopefully it's because he's besotted!
Wow that's an angle I haven't seen. But look how proud he is of her, he cries at her seranedes, he looks ans smiles at her while walking hand in hand, he's very affectionate towards her in public, unlike Joey who couldn't even look at her in all media pics.
I was thinking your way too at the start, but he showers her with gifts, he puts her needs first. He's not afraid of paps. Social media is scum. He does not need to prove to public his relationship.
He's the kind of guy I would date.❤ Love from Australia..
OMG!! Can we be friends, lol. Finally, someone who's grounded. You are 1000% right. All Swifties see is what's in front of them and follow the crowd. He is in love with the entertainer, not the person, and is soaking up all the ins and outs of the business while benefiting from it. He loves the attention. It's way too obvious. It makes me cringe that people actually think this is "love" just because he's dancing at her concerts, holding hands, or going out for dinner. My head explodes after reading Swiftie comments. My message to all Swifties is: go outside and TOUCH GRASS!!
@@candlelights._.He knows exactly what he's doing; it's obvious. He craves attention. I'm not a Taylor fan, but I hope she dumps him. Right now, it brings attention to the tour, but the tour will end, the curtains will close, and I hope that will be her awakening. He won't be the one initiating the breakup. He knows he's got a cash cow.
For people who says she had too many boyfriends, she doesn't have to stay in bad relationships. She dates, not one night stands.
13 boyfriends for a 34 year old is normal.
Most men sleep with like 50 or more nobody bats an eye
13? Wow probably time to get married and have some maturity. Money and planes are not it.
50?? WTF that's not normal that's a womaniser!
@@chiquitafeldberg8259 Normal?
I'm tired of people defending Taylor swift , she makes OUTSTANDING MUSIC BUT 13 BOYFRIENDS FOR A 34 YEAR IS TOO MUCH STOP BEING IN DENIAL 1-3 is normal anything ovdr that is too much. Delete this comment NOW! you disgust me
13 is definitely not normal. And I'm pretty sure it's past 13 because you have no idea how many 1 nighters she's had. 50!? Disgusting. This world is a mess.
TAY THIS N JOE IS NOT WHAT U WANTED U DID NOT NO TRUE TRUE LOVE TILL TRAVIS CAME ALONG N FINALLY MADE EVERYTHING REAL IN YOUR LIFE AMEN
Lol
The album folklore contains the lyrics:For a Fortnight there we were forever running til you sometimes ask about the weather, GURLLL THATS TTPDDDDDDD HOW DARE U edit:and she aint have a husband like bro shut up
Joe did not split from Taylor. Taylor slit from Joe. Her song about your losing me was written before Joe even understood Taylor and he were done. So he is the liar. Evidence my friends evidence. And Taylors song about him visiting pubs and doing god knows what is also a big point against him. He is a jerk.
uhm fortnight isnt in folklore..
Everyone has relationships long or short and it doesn’t work. They have both moved on and they both are happy that’s all that should matter. It’s in the past now.
Wow whoever put this together is a real piece of work. It is truly a shame that videos like this exist, I wish the ridiculous sounding narrator could experience life under a microscope like celebrities do, maybe if the paparazzi truly understood how harmful they are they would leave celebrities alone…
all these 'boyfriends' she has had, to make us think she is str8. weird.
Where exactly does it say that he called her a liar
VOICE PLZ 🤗
It's between 2 private persons relationship. I don't care who fail who. I just want you 2 person to be happy there after.
I knew after this video Taylor’s vile fan girls would come out and dog pile on poor Joe. It’s disgusting!
Poor Joe I think you mean Poor Taylor she wasted 6 years with a guy who treated her like Trash, Cheated on Her oh and by the way she wanted to marry him and he didn’t!! Poor Joe yeah right 😂
@@Jess-y7cThe delulu is strong! You mean she wasted his time! They literally bought a house together before she went on tour. He wanted to marry Taylor, not Taylor Swift. I hope you feel proud that she chose you guys over true love. Watch her die alone at 40 with a house full of cats. And for the last time, SHE CHEATED ON JOE WITH MATT HEALY! Joe didn't cheat but he should have. 😑
@@Cassandra_17MR. OBSESSED WITH TAYLOR SWIFT is back at it again
Good luck to them both ❤❤❤
Honesty: No one knows what really happened. All this shxx is speculation. I am sure they loved each other during this time. Women gotta wake up if he doesn’t put a ring on it, it’s cause he really isn’t in to you. 🤦🏻♀️ Plus T is no angel she seems she can have a snotty and spoiled attitude. He did write some of her songs. Honestly her songs are childish. Not a fan of her music. She is a serial dater which is her prerogative but she needs therapy so she can learn to respect herself and others more. Good luck to them both. 👏💪☮️🙏
Cannot stand her
Thank you Joe Alwyn.
I thought Joe and Taylor were good together. They always looked settled 😊
So they wanted to keep it quiet and private, then when they break away from each other she writes songs about them, like all her other boyfriends. Something wrong with her in my opinion
Her whole life is a lie she can’t sing live
When is some guy going to write a song about swift? She's a serial dater once she gets the guy she loses interest
He is a liar, not her
He is still young, plenty of time to find a soulmate.
Ok she is NOT a liar! Fixed it for you..
No one except Gigi Hadid would know who Joe Alwyn is right now.. if Taylor hadn't dated him.
He was with her more for the fame of her rather than her..He wanted to be famous... the whole, we want our relationship to be private was to have some control ..of her. He's the type of guy to appear perfect on the outside, says what is expected of a good guy, but deep down, he is the most important person in his life. She is a giver, he is a taker.
Thats the whole problem. He was not with her for the fame. He is a proper talented actor. And what is Gigi Hadid? An empty vacuum and a clothes horse.
Oh, dear. What the heck do you even mean right now? If Joe was using her and wanting fame, don't you think he would want to talk about her and walk the carpet with her? Don't you think he would have used his real name instead of William Bowery? Taylor told the world about him writing songs with her. He then went on Kelly Clarkson because Taylor probably made him. Joe wanted to keep that stuff private. A clout chaser wanting fame wouldn't want privacy.
@@Cassandra_17 thanks for watching that making a cult leader more money
Clickbait title says "she is a liar". About WHAT?
Who would even know who tf he is if it wasn't for Taylor???
An f ing good actor who did not want her fame hanging around his neck like a dead weight. Travis on the other hand.....😂
I'm sorry but didn't he book his first movie role with Oscar winning director Ang Lee before he even met Taylor? His career probably would've done better if he was dating someone actually likable. Like I dunno maybe a singer who can actually sing? He deserved better than that cheater.
Well, seeing as he’s a private man. Being known was hardly a boon for him, nor for his lifestyle.
He didn’t seek anything from her, beyond what any man wants from a relationship with a woman he cares for.
@@Cassandra_17 MR. OBSESSED WITH TAYLOR’S EXES
Dude your yesterday news move on nothing to see here