Donald Booth, thank you for your honest and respectful opinions, you really care for ethiopia and I think you had contributed your best share. The lady has no point and respect and the others don't care a bit. Thank you Donald, hope you help Ethiopians for peaceful transition, with all your experience, knowledge and positive thinking.
On the ethnic/nations/nationality issue: EPRDF has used these differences as its basic strategy to control the populous at the expense of a national identity. As for the 2020 election, the question mark is how the ethnic dynamics will play out. We have a generation of middle aged men/women who have grown up listening to EPRDF's ethnic propaganda.
first i would like to apricate and thank government of America for its concern peace in Ethiopia . and I hope all this experienced diplomates will bring good situation to better strengthen Ethiopian and American bilateral diplomatic relation ship. thank you American government and the people of America .
Dear Ambassadors, Moderator and USIP, thank you so much for your timely and well-informed discussion. Ethiopia and we, Ethiopians, are known for squandering opportunities to democratize our nation in the past, because our politicians and the society at large are yet to learn compromises - give and take! It appears to me, it is NOW or NEVER to transition to democracy
US is in no place to preach democracy when we have the highest number of people imprisoned. US has not said anything in the past and will not in the future to save Ethiopians. This is interesting, but i dont think they have any goal or action plan. Talk is cheap.
I like this panel discussion about Ethiopian political system, Dr Abiy Ahimed gave so much transformation on many sides of his government, but ethnic political ideology is not good for Ethiopian transformation.so we Ethiopians expect more bright tomorrow from Dr. Abiy's ideology and good leadership.
It’s true that Ethiopia is not a country. The people only unite when they are being invaded by outside forces. Other than that ethnic groups have been fighting each other since the beginning. People say the last 27 years were darkness but was their any civil war? No. Now theres the risk of civil war again
blakbord1@gmail.com Bik I know ethiopian history. One of the earliest kingdoms to rise to power in the territory was the kingdom of D'mt in the 10th century BC, which established its capital at Yeha. The Aksumite Kingdom rose to power in the Tigray Region with its capital at Aksum and grew into a major power on the Red Sea, subjugating Yemen and Meroe and converting to Christianity in the early fourth century. Then it’s name changed too Abyssinia during the Ottoman conquest. the Oromo people were able to invade into the highlands, conquering the remains of the Adal Sultanate and pushing deep into Ethiopia. Ethiopia was reunified in 1855 under Tewodros II, beginning Ethiopia's modern history and his reign was followed by Yohannes IV who was killed in action in 1889. Under Menelik II he sold off the Tigrayan people too the Italians for money and weapons. Then which the Italians decided to betray the truce and invade. But they failed defeating an Italian invasion in 1896. Then Haile Selassie became the ruler around 1935 and decided too ignore the Tigray people and let them starve and die while the Italians invaded for the second time. Selassie failed and Ethiopia was under Italians occupation “mainly in the north”. The British helped and drove the Italians away. Ethiopia and Eritrea united in a federation, but when Haile Selassie ended the federation in 1961 and made Eritrea a province of Ethiopia, the 30-year Eritrean War of Independence broke out. Eritrea regained its independence after a referendum in 1993. Haile Selassie was overthrown in 1974 and the militaristic Derg Regime came to power. Then a civil war broke out but the Tigrayans defeated Mengistu in gorilla warfare with the help of Eritreans. This resulted in the establishment of the Federal Democratic Republic under Meles Zenawi. Ethiopia remains impoverished, but its economy has become one of the world's fastest-growing because of Meles leadership. People say that the last 27 years were darkness but the truth is that in those years there have been no civil wars other than the Eritrean conflicts.
@@___AWFUL___ You said Selassie ignore Tigryan people. If you take your body for reference, and you experience a bacterial infection on your hand that affects function/ motion, will you say you ignored the hair follicles when shaving to avoid contamination or will you say you were forced to reduce damage and work toward recovery. A leader does not ignore regions he/she govern. That is why you were suggested to read the history. Will you say Meles ignored Tigryans when Eritreans bombed and killed residents of that region? That was forced. Those two leaders (meles & isayas) decided to split the country and rob its resources. Like thieves normally do. They agree to still but disagree to share what they took, hence broke the war. While I am at this comment, you said Ethiopia remains impoverished but the economy was strong? Webster dictionary says Impoverished means poor, reduced to poverty. If your agenda is to make Meles a superior than Haile Selasie, ask yourself this question? If Selasie was poor leader, do you think Meles inherited "84 countries" (quoting you) when he came to power? Know this history before making comments.
Bellu Sisay my agenda was proof. So instead of spewing nonsense how about you show facts. Because he did, many leaders ignore and sell out the Tigray people, this is historically true. There would never be an Eritrea if menilik didn’t sell them to the Italians. Meles has done more for Ethiopia then the past two leaders combined and this is facts.
@@___AWFUL___When you say your agenda is proof, you mean it is a proven phenomena that Tigreans were ignored by Haile Selassie and the subsequent leaders who came to power after his death? If that is what you meant, please share us your resources indicating these leaders deliberately ignore regions in which they administer. With out this important information, this argument will only be deemed as unproven and unfounded allegation that is used to advance once own agenda. You have mentioned last about Menelik and his treaty which may have a point. But that was Menelik not Haile Selassie or other leaders.
@@nebiatsisay . the proof of ignoring of tigrean people stands as fact. they ressist and fought back and get thier rights by destroying derg a powerful power which swore to destroy and insult them as a people .tigreans are always the power of magnet in ethiopean poletical social history that is why they have been a target from people of the south..deamat kingdom was in tigrai state and axum kingdom with its port adulis was tigrai and eritrea . there was neither amahara nor oromo civilization at that time . there was sabeans .himran from yemen . the tigran languge geez .tigrija.tigree. all of them pure semetic languge with its vocal similarity to arabic and hebriw. elits from south they claim they are the countinoution of the north civilazation with mixed pigin languge .to take awey history and identity of the north. ethiopia 4000 history is fake. ethiopia the name itself came almost 100 years ago .the conspiracy of killing of prince yohanes.the conspiracy of mnelik with italians to split the owners of axum kingdom to two.to weaken them . today we are wittnesing the attacking of tigreans by giving them bad name .after they devoloped ethiopia .they have been treaten as if they are ousiders . history is reapiting itself. hiding thier own creaminals and attacking tigreans .trying conspiracy with eritrean dictator which it failed
We long more such institutes to engage in the crucial matter of peace throughout the world. Here in our case, the time of assignation was too late because of the U.S.A. have access, accordingly, this institute for peace should participate the people in order to get a succesful result. Finally, I would like to suggest my free idea, that the U.S.A. should look through her foreign policy to succeed in the objectives of such an institute.
It is hard to believe these group of people simply have no idea what they were doing when they represented the US and they still have no idea - and they have "institute of peace" but they work knowingly or unknowingly to implement war. The guy who in their eye is very direct, Meles Zenawi, turned the once proud country into a North Korea. It began with the change of state ID cards to identify citizens by their ethnicity instead of their nationality for the first time in the country's history. To go with it, the country's map was redrawn and renamed by ethnicity. Schools had a new curriculum focused on how one etnic hurt the other - new history to divide and rule. The police was used to execute and terrorize people - having a police from a given ethnic group kill a citizen from another ethnic group to fuel hate. In the 2005 election, the opposition did not say they won't accept their seats but somehow knowingly or unknowingly these group of people think they did or are spewing propagand. Meles in the mean time became a multi billionaire controlling 50% of the economy with a VC fund they started for his ethnic group. This information can't be lost of these people, so what gives when the chickens have come home to roost? EPRDF ruled the country like North Korea - And the US was sleeping or knowingly ignored it? Why the hell do these people believe we should even listen to them?
Thank you all X ambassadors in Ethiopia. Thank you for organisers and moderator, you are all great. I have great respect for all of you. You are all career deplomats and I am sempathitic to you all, because you need to maintain deplomatic Norms for not to critical to Mr Zenawi. However, I have no doubt that you have all expressed your proffeional opinions that Mr Zenawi is a responsible person for what is happening today in Ethiopia and inconterrary Dr Abye is leading the country in the right direction despite dealing with the aftermath left behind by the TPLF distractive leadership. Professor David Shine, I have particularly a great deal of respect for you as you have been truthful about TPLF leadership over many years. Observer from London
What impressed me most about this discussion is how well the Americans understand Ethiopia and the psyche of Ethiopians. The participants expressed objective views, without any bias or favour. One of the gentlemen articulated the main cause of the war between Ethiopia and Eritrea which is far different from the view held by the vast majority of us. Most of us thought or still think that the cause of the war was Badme. Their understanding and insight into the political situation in Ethiopia is so factual that it puts most of us to shame. It made me realise how little I knew about my country. I have been greatly enlightened by this highly stimulating discussion about Ethiopia.
S.M.H. media ally americawew , I agree with you, my friend. Thank you for concurring with me. The issue of ethnicity is probably the most critical in Ethiopian politics. Unless this issue is resolved, it will be difficult to achieve peace and stability in Ethiopia. Every ethnic tribe whether big or small should be proud of their identity, language, culture, etc. Ethiopia should celebrate its ethnic diversity as it will make it stronger not weaker.
Thank you so much US Institute of peace we 8 regens need federal exept 1 that amhara need kingdem because they want abiuse and colaps to the other neation but we need federalism no more emperiar please all the world suport as yr vote has prise
Ethiopia in the eyes of former US ambassadors to Addis Ababa.Amhara ethnic group under the name of PP is dominating Abiy's government as TPLF dominated a pre-Abiy Ahmed era.
America is double standard and can't breach other nations what democracy is and should never be listened. American democracy is what they want and how they want. Ethiopians can sort their problems with themselves.
As a Somali from the ogaden region. You would consider me ethiopian and my land Ethiopia. But that couldn't be further from the truth. Ethiopia is an empire and empires can only be maintained by force and therefore Ethiopia cannot be a democracy. And it would've fallen apart long ago if not for western insistance on it existing. And that insistance has made the horn of Africa a constant warzone. Even if Ethiopia doesn't politically collapse just look at its economy and its debt and you'll realise it's close to economic collapse. The disintegration of Ethiopia is the biggest gift to the horn of Africa and I hope it happens soon.
Ethiopia is in a much better condition than some African countries. There are millions of somalian immigrants all over the world. Some of them including you are in Ethiopia. So, your analysis is not holding the truth. I love you as a fellow ethiopian because I believe that Ethiopia is our common home or country.
Thank you for paying attention about our beloved country. Right now the jails in Ethiopia are full tigriyan ( people from Tigray). You haven't mention that.
Solution for Ethiopian dictatorship is independence for all willing to be free. Specially the second largest ethnic group Somalis who were massacred by all regimes mentioned and is the least devoloped and does not belong to Ethiopia. It was handed to them by Britain as oil reserves and these behind the close powers shall free Somali peninsula for calm in east Africa.
TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray are the ones who are hijacking the peace atmosphere, spoil the reform process, roughen Ethio-US relationship and incite ethnic clashes using the money they embezzled from the US and Western donated funds, their paid corrupt agents (based throughout Ethiopia), as well as China's encouragement. The TPLF wants African economy to be strongly tied with China and not the US and the West at large. For that favoritism, they have been getting corrupt funds from China continuously. So, the US, UK and EU should act fast for the speedy neutralization, elimination or even demise if they are to keep their strategic interest in the region by deterring China's secret connection with the TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray. 40% of the Tigrian population is still living on food donated by the US+West.
koala10ish Keep blaming someone else for eternity and you will be able to save the country from integration. If you think crying day and night will improve the situation in Ethiopia wake up you are speeding up the process of Ethiopia’s disintegration . Instead I advice you to Come up with solutions to our problems.
@Love Tigray TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray are the ones who are hijacking the peace atmosphere, spoil the reform process, roughen Ethio-US relationship and incite ethnic clashes using the money they embezzled from the US and Western donated funds, their paid corrupt agents (based throughout Ethiopia), as well as China's encouragement.
@Rame Tekle TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray are the ones who are hijacking the peace atmosphere, spoil the reform process, roughen Ethio-US relationship and incite ethnic clashes using the money they embezzled from the US and Western donated funds, their paid corrupt agents (based throughout Ethiopia), as well as China's encouragement.
We Africans need economic growth not western democracy . western democracy brings as division among as. so we must understand the side effect of western democracy . the relationship between eri and ethiopia is the key solution particularly for East Africa in generally to Africa.Those ambassadors they only care about their especiall interests and to destabilize Africa.
Eritrea nation state we don’t even need democracy, we have to depend on our cultural and religious values relationship to deal with our political activities. Democracy influences us to surrender our selves to the western. We (Africans) need to be independent, United and free of foreign influences first. Because we never got a chance, to deal with our own problems on our own. Always have been problem after problems. Slave-trade, invasions, colonialism, war within, civil war, elections results, famine and so and so on. Let’s deal with our own issues and we can do it. They don’t have to intervene in every aspect of our continent.
Eritrea nation state thx like your view but I think we need to handle the westerners wisely but never ever let them get inside of us...one main thing I want to add is, we need to grow and use our indigenous social govern system which is popular among the kush ppl in the southern Ethiopia...
ቀኝ Kegn Yes! That was what I was trying to say. We have the GADA system of Oromo people of Ethiopia which is much better and more peaceful than democratic system.
OK this is a very true story after i follwed this report about our country ,but on the other hand Our prime minister suppose to be or i shall say pupate leader playing the wayen game,who is in charge in Ethiopia ,can any one of you wise guys can tell the public ,
Dr.Abiy Ahmed is a visionary Democratic leader who believes in tolerance, equality and justice. Unfortunately, the ethnic politics in which the country was ruled to empower and favor certain ethnic group had led to rifts and skepticism. Furthermore, a great deal of challenge ahead namely, deep state, scarcity of Hard Currency and ignorance of the ethnic groups who want Dr.Abiy to solve the accumulated problems, as if he has a magic stick. I wish him all the very best, as outstanding honest leader. Keep it up Bro.
Remarks " Ethiopia kid's can't be directed by United States and similarly, Ethiopia father's also can't directed their kids in the same way that American fathers do .🧐 So, please stop intervening to our internal matters, that you can leave it to our father he can make it ✊🏾
I thanxs to mr Jenny Carson(I apologize if am not correctly mentioned your name)besides I 4wards my appreciation to the UNITED STATES OF JUSTICE having concerned to our beloved country ETHIOPIA what is going on currently in the country with the "new DOGMATIST "leader".
The Name of Ethiopia is fake.Who is Ethiopian? This Country lived in Illusion for decades. There 200 hundreds of ethnic differences in What is called Ethiopia. The largest ethnic of Oromo, the third and second size land The Western Somali Liberation Front WSLF also called OGADEN SOMALI never accepted the border with brothers of Somalia. I guess it's time the reality to face because the dividing force between these African Communities are huge and the is no legal international acceptable to all which they can rule as one Country existed. To add more Ethiopia is the ex Yoguslavia in Africa.
1. There are more than 86 ethnic groups in the tradtional sence of it and many more if we count the newly created minorities through the mixing of cultures. And many more will be created! So the current system is not truly ethnic federalism it was just the manifestation of power and territorial expansion aspirations of certain groups with military power superiority at one time and their allies! 2. Any federal system made without the establishment of democracy first is clearly nonsense and must have other ulterior motives. And as such will not prosper but fail fast. 3. When a country has such a long history as Ethiopia things can not be smooth all the time. Eventually, we will figure out a way out of this mess! Maybe if we are lucky we get a strong outside enemy that will unite us in an instant :) 4. The main problem was not ethnicity in the first place so ethnic federalism can not solve it. It lies elsewhere! But definitely, a good system that balances shared-rule with self-rule and embraces diversity across all parts of Ethiopia goes a long way! We really don't need regional silos though. The only ones who aspire and work tirelessly are the politicians that are looking to become the next dictator! And the people know this! 5. Fun fact, article 62 of our current constitution assigns the power of interpreting itself (the law) to the house of the Federation (the equivalent of Congress). And to add more it almost entirely removes this house from the legislative role! Limiting shared rule seriously 🙈. And hence, one can call such a constitution ”session inducing” but the people know that also ;)
What are you taking about? define “our own” governance and put a logical argument forward. That way we can reach to some understanding and maybe to some solution. However exterme is your idea, you can still put it forward if it has any logic in it! It doesn’t hurt to use your brain for a change ;)
Thanks for reinforcing the ”ulterior motive” part of my assumptions! Maybe if you guys come forward with the idea openly and put it on the table for disscussion, it might get solved through proper compromise! Of course, if the idea flies in the first place ;)
@@easymoney1661 come on don't get pissed of so much negativity? It's not our fault, you amhara don't love you own amahara region like everyone else love their lol.
@@easymoney1661 lol the land is amhara but the church achievement is built by agaw lalibela that wasn't mix with habesha DNA. Read book Shaw don't speak Amharic as official language but second that have been oppressed by semantic amhara
@@A.D.540 you agames are disgusting . you are full of hate. who are you to tell us who is amahra or not ( i spit on your face) Agew is core being of amhara, you dont get to decided who is amhara or not. dirty leba yekin jibo timb tigra
I do not believe the diaspora know what is going on in Ethiopia. What they do know is what they see in social media from those who do not want to give up the privilege they had the last 27 years as well as those who few individuals who are looking for attention. Your information should depend upon the views and perspectives of those who live in the country.
Dear US diplomats and respected friends of Ethiopia.Thank you so much for your support for the ongoing change in Ethiopia under the leadership of Dr Abiy Ahmed who has shown a unique leadership full of forgiveness and national reconciliation.I trust God and very optimistic the change in Ethiopia never reversed and you have great ability to help the change and force those criminals hiding in the Tegray region in North Ethiopia and those at diaspora who were part of the very abusive 27 evil rules of TPLF.Also US politicians and leaders should continue observing the democratic flow in Ethiopia that those extremists from Dr Abiy party who ally with the former rebel OLF with dismantling Ethiopia never get a chance to infiltrate Dr Abiy;s government.There are also extremists on the other side who support the previous military regime and the feudal emperor who do not want those ethnic groups enjoy their freedom.
There has been no freedom for any one under TPLF rule, you just deluded with Ethnic freedom. If an individual has no freedom there is no a group freedom. Observer from London
Ethiopia can only exist as a federalism, other than that it will not exist as a country and will Diffiniatley divide small state countries. But that's bad idea even because look the Arabs or even EU. But Time will tell whether Ethiopia exists as a country or divide.
@Twenty Faces it's not the issue of liking or hating but it's the truth on the ground Ethiopia due to internal issues and external interest it's had to exist as a country unless to democratise and be federal state which is hard process for Ethiopia
@Twenty Faces because one amhara united the country through blood killing 6m innocent from this 5m were oromo which is more then Italy 1m death. Italy 7% & Menelik 2 55%. Second amhara steel land, force culture, treadtion & faith.
@@qarreeayantumekonnen1205 no the world hasn't evolved that is lie European countries are named after their ethnic after ww2 boxer changed any European country more then one ethnic wants independent even in Asia . This is why one ethnic nation are more stable. it's stable.
Because of amhara force assimilation not just language but also culture, treadtion, faith & land settlement replacing other ethnic from their ancestors land. Amara have muderd 5m oromo & 1m more if you include other ethnic from different region.
@@yekolotemari well the feeling of the people might change one change could be free of land stolen, the chance of other ethnic taking other ethnic land becomes harder as they have to speak the native Toung of that region to work & study. Before people didn't learn other region language, they just want settled & force majority to speak their tounge including remove. That is one simple example. Second most of this ethnic hate each other putting them in to one will just expand hate much faster. Example tigray& afar love each other, yet thirst & Amara hate each other, Somali & oromo like each other, yet Somali and Amara hate each other. In what universe can you see unfedralism take place in Ethiopia based on ancient yet.
TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray are the ones who are hijacking the peace atmosphere, spoil the reform process, roughen Ethio-US relationship and incite ethnic clashes using the money they embezzled from the US and Western donated funds, their paid corrupt agents (based throughout Ethiopia), as well as China's encouragement. The TPLF wants African economy to be strongly tied with China and not the US and the West at large. For that favoritism, they have been getting corrupt funds from China continuously. So, the US, UK and EU should act fast for the speedy neutralization, elimination or even demise if they are to keep their strategic interest in the region by deterring China's secret connection with the TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray. 40% of the Tigrian population is still living on food donated by the US+West.
@@A.D.540 TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray are the ones who are hijacking the peace atmosphere, spoil the reform process, roughen Ethio-US relationship
@@koala10ish actually it been found out its actually olf every time. A thirst person that got killed in fonder was killed by 3 olf , then few days Amara dies in album university, when abut came to power first time it was founded out the person with grenade was olf oromo, people who robbed oromo bank were olf. Yet people still blame thirst yet nobody has the evidence to prove it.
@@A.D.540 TPLF's Sebhat Nega is using and paying OLF to execute its proxy war and the US Embassy in Addis knows it. So, US and UK will take action on TPLF very soon to help Abiy consolidate his open, peaceful and inclusive administration!
@@A.D.540 TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray are the ones who are hijacking the peace atmosphere, spoil the reform process, roughen Ethio-US relationship and incite ethnic clashes using the money they embezzled from the US and Western donated funds
Amhara people no history no identity the lost Amhara people are trying to take the great people Tigrai history Civilization but will never happen. Amharay is selfish people lost people lost identity in The so called Ethiopia
@ChelseafcTube when memes was in power it was people vs government for more human right. 👉 Amharacomes to power more displacement, out of control political rebel parties, hate based on religion & ethnic. Their was low hate druing meles few hated him but people never hated each other. Amharaare virseof unstability.
For your information for over 27 years TPLF was controlled all the governments power not EPRDF. This is one of the reasons now TPLF when they lose the power they dont want to stay within their party EPRDF. Ceating issue and unstabilty in the country.
Nope wrong 3 reason we don't want to be part of Ethiopia? 1) amhara want to steal our land 2) Amara say one love, one Ethiopia yet they action show the opposite not just today but also past leaders. 3) Amhara like to blame without evidence which is dangers.
God bless you all!!!!!! thank you God we have the best leader our country Ethiopian Prime Minister abiy Ahmed
Donald Booth, thank you for your honest and respectful opinions, you really care for ethiopia and I think you had contributed your best share. The lady has no point and respect and the others don't care a bit. Thank you Donald, hope you help Ethiopians for peaceful transition, with all your experience, knowledge and positive thinking.
On the ethnic/nations/nationality issue: EPRDF has used these differences as its basic strategy to control the populous at the expense of a national identity. As for the 2020 election, the question mark is how the ethnic dynamics will play out. We have a generation of middle aged men/women who have grown up listening to EPRDF's ethnic propaganda.
Tell me what propaganda. Please tell me I can't seem to find any lie
first i would like to apricate and thank government of America for its concern peace in Ethiopia . and I hope all this experienced diplomates will bring good situation to better strengthen Ethiopian and American bilateral diplomatic relation ship. thank you American government and the people of America .
Dear Ambassadors, Moderator and USIP, thank you so much for your timely and well-informed discussion. Ethiopia and we, Ethiopians, are known for squandering opportunities to democratize our nation in the past, because our politicians and the society at large are yet to learn compromises - give and take! It appears to me, it is NOW or NEVER to transition to democracy
Personally I like that all you guys admitted America is still evolving democracy that is v humble!!
But We Ethiopians need learn pick quick!!!
I don't know how we became apart of what they call Ethiopia,European did by force,we want our independence as somali
Tigray clap for you 🙌🙏✌. Yes it was force by oromo who mixed with Amara the north shewa in Amara region.
we thank you so much
US is in no place to preach democracy when we have the highest number of people imprisoned. US has not said anything in the past and will not in the future to save Ethiopians. This is interesting, but i dont think they have any goal or action plan. Talk is cheap.
I like this panel discussion about Ethiopian political system, Dr Abiy Ahimed gave so much transformation on many sides of his government, but ethnic political ideology is not good for Ethiopian transformation.so we Ethiopians expect more bright tomorrow from Dr. Abiy's ideology and good leadership.
It’s true that Ethiopia is not a country. The people only unite when they are being invaded by outside forces. Other than that ethnic groups have been fighting each other since the beginning. People say the last 27 years were darkness but was their any civil war? No. Now theres the risk of civil war again
blakbord1@gmail.com Bik I know ethiopian history. One of the earliest kingdoms to rise to power in the territory was the kingdom of D'mt in the 10th century BC, which established its capital at Yeha. The Aksumite Kingdom rose to power in the Tigray Region with its capital at Aksum and grew into a major power on the Red Sea, subjugating Yemen and Meroe and converting to Christianity in the early fourth century. Then it’s name changed too Abyssinia during the Ottoman conquest. the Oromo people were able to invade into the highlands, conquering the remains of the Adal Sultanate and pushing deep into Ethiopia.
Ethiopia was reunified in 1855 under Tewodros II, beginning Ethiopia's modern history and his reign was followed by Yohannes IV who was killed in action in 1889. Under Menelik II he sold off the Tigrayan people too the Italians for money and weapons. Then which the Italians decided to betray the truce and invade. But they failed defeating an Italian invasion in 1896.
Then Haile Selassie became the ruler around 1935 and decided too ignore the Tigray people and let them starve and die while the Italians invaded for the second time. Selassie failed and Ethiopia was under Italians occupation “mainly in the north”. The British helped and drove the Italians away.
Ethiopia and Eritrea united in a federation, but when Haile Selassie ended the federation in 1961 and made Eritrea a province of Ethiopia, the 30-year Eritrean War of Independence broke out. Eritrea regained its independence after a referendum in 1993.
Haile Selassie was overthrown in 1974 and the militaristic Derg Regime came to power. Then a civil war broke out but the Tigrayans defeated Mengistu in gorilla warfare with the help of Eritreans.
This resulted in the establishment of the Federal Democratic Republic under Meles Zenawi. Ethiopia remains impoverished, but its economy has become one of the world's fastest-growing because of Meles leadership. People say that the last 27 years were darkness but the truth is that in those years there have been no civil wars other than the Eritrean conflicts.
@@___AWFUL___ You said Selassie ignore Tigryan people. If you take your body for reference, and you experience a bacterial infection on your hand that affects function/ motion, will you say you ignored the hair follicles when shaving to avoid contamination or will you say you were forced to reduce damage and work toward recovery. A leader does not ignore regions he/she govern. That is why you were suggested to read the history. Will you say Meles ignored Tigryans when Eritreans bombed and killed residents of that region? That was forced.
Those two leaders (meles & isayas) decided to split the country and rob its resources. Like thieves normally do. They agree to still but disagree to share what they took, hence broke the war.
While I am at this comment, you said Ethiopia remains impoverished but the economy was strong?
Webster dictionary says Impoverished means poor, reduced to poverty.
If your agenda is to make Meles a superior than Haile Selasie, ask yourself this question? If Selasie was poor leader, do you think Meles inherited "84 countries" (quoting you) when he came to power?
Know this history before making comments.
Bellu Sisay my agenda was proof. So instead of spewing nonsense how about you show facts. Because he did, many leaders ignore and sell out the Tigray people, this is historically true. There would never be an Eritrea if menilik didn’t sell them to the Italians. Meles has done more for Ethiopia then the past two leaders combined and this is facts.
@@___AWFUL___When you say your agenda is proof, you mean it is a proven phenomena that Tigreans were ignored by Haile Selassie and the subsequent leaders who came to power after his death?
If that is what you meant, please share us your resources indicating these leaders deliberately ignore regions in which they administer. With out this important information, this argument will only be deemed as unproven and unfounded allegation that is used to advance once own agenda.
You have mentioned last about Menelik and his treaty which may have a point. But that was Menelik not Haile Selassie or other leaders.
@@nebiatsisay . the proof of ignoring of tigrean people stands as fact. they ressist and fought back and get thier rights by destroying derg a powerful power which swore to destroy and insult them as a people .tigreans are always the power of magnet in ethiopean poletical social history that is why they have been a target from people of the south..deamat kingdom was in tigrai state and axum kingdom with its port adulis was tigrai and eritrea . there was neither amahara nor oromo civilization at that time . there was sabeans .himran from yemen . the tigran languge geez .tigrija.tigree. all of them pure semetic languge with its vocal similarity to arabic and hebriw. elits from south they claim they are the countinoution of the north civilazation with mixed pigin languge .to take awey history and identity of the north. ethiopia 4000 history is fake. ethiopia the name itself came almost 100 years ago .the conspiracy of killing of prince yohanes.the conspiracy of mnelik with italians to split the owners of axum kingdom to two.to weaken them . today we are wittnesing the attacking of tigreans by giving them bad name .after they devoloped ethiopia .they have been treaten as if they are ousiders . history is reapiting itself. hiding thier own creaminals and attacking tigreans .trying conspiracy with eritrean dictator which it failed
Why does Ethiopia need outsider to manage its affairs?
Ethiopia the best. Ethiopia has no innocent blood on their conscience.
Late p.m meles wos verey smart &he had perfermans to gaven the country also he wos very kind he don't want diy any insent people
thank you guys
thanks
We long more such institutes to engage in the crucial matter of peace throughout the world. Here in our case, the time of assignation was too late because of the U.S.A. have access, accordingly, this institute for peace should participate the people in order to get a succesful result. Finally, I would like to suggest my free idea, that the U.S.A. should look through her foreign policy to succeed in the objectives of such an institute.
It is hard to believe these group of people simply have no idea what they were doing when they represented the US and they still have no idea - and they have "institute of peace" but they work knowingly or unknowingly to implement war. The guy who in their eye is very direct, Meles Zenawi, turned the once proud country into a North Korea. It began with the change of state ID cards to identify citizens by their ethnicity instead of their nationality for the first time in the country's history. To go with it, the country's map was redrawn and renamed by ethnicity. Schools had a new curriculum focused on how one etnic hurt the other - new history to divide and rule. The police was used to execute and terrorize people - having a police from a given ethnic group kill a citizen from another ethnic group to fuel hate. In the 2005 election, the opposition did not say they won't accept their seats but somehow knowingly or unknowingly these group of people think they did or are spewing propagand. Meles in the mean time became a multi billionaire controlling 50% of the economy with a VC fund they started for his ethnic group. This information can't be lost of these people, so what gives when the chickens have come home to roost? EPRDF ruled the country like North Korea - And the US was sleeping or knowingly ignored it? Why the hell do these people believe we should even listen to them?
What do you expect, they are political appointees.
Excellent discussion & perspective.
Thank you all X ambassadors in Ethiopia. Thank you for organisers and moderator, you are all great. I have great respect for all of you. You are all career deplomats and I am sempathitic to you all, because you need to maintain deplomatic Norms for not to critical to Mr Zenawi. However, I have no doubt that you have all expressed your proffeional opinions that Mr Zenawi is a responsible person for what is happening today in Ethiopia and inconterrary Dr Abye is leading the country in the right direction despite dealing with the aftermath left behind by the TPLF distractive leadership. Professor David Shine, I have particularly a great deal of respect for you as you have been truthful about TPLF leadership over many years.
Observer from London
ኢትዮጵያን የሚበትን እራሱ ይበተናል
የኢትዮጵያ ሉአላዊነት የህዝቧ ነጻነት አይሸጥም አይለወጥም!!!
@@adamuabegaz512 يهت
What impressed me most about this discussion is how well the Americans understand Ethiopia and the psyche of Ethiopians. The participants expressed objective views, without any bias or favour. One of the gentlemen articulated the main cause of the war between Ethiopia and Eritrea which is far different from the view held by the vast majority of us. Most of us thought or still think that the cause of the war was Badme. Their understanding and insight into the political situation in Ethiopia is so factual that it puts most of us to shame. It made me realise how little I knew about my country. I have been greatly enlightened by this highly stimulating discussion about Ethiopia.
S.M.H. media ally americawew ,
I agree with you, my friend. Thank you for concurring with me. The issue of ethnicity is probably the most critical in Ethiopian politics. Unless this issue is resolved, it will be difficult to achieve peace and stability in Ethiopia. Every ethnic tribe whether big or small should be proud of their identity, language, culture, etc. Ethiopia should celebrate its ethnic diversity as it will make it stronger not weaker.
you said it wright, KECHACHA, the butcher.
Thank you so much US Institute of peace we 8 regens need federal exept 1 that amhara need kingdem because they want abiuse and colaps to the other neation but we need federalism no more emperiar please all the world suport as yr vote has prise
We build Ethiopia while you were cutting another man sexual organs and slave ether other.
I THNXS TO
Ethiopia in the eyes of former US ambassadors to Addis Ababa.Amhara ethnic group under the name of PP is dominating Abiy's government as TPLF dominated a pre-Abiy Ahmed era.
America is double standard and can't breach other nations what democracy is and should never be listened. American democracy is what they want and how they want. Ethiopians can sort their problems with themselves.
As a Somali from the ogaden region. You would consider me ethiopian and my land Ethiopia. But that couldn't be further from the truth. Ethiopia is an empire and empires can only be maintained by force and therefore Ethiopia cannot be a democracy. And it would've fallen apart long ago if not for western insistance on it existing. And that insistance has made the horn of Africa a constant warzone. Even if Ethiopia doesn't politically collapse just look at its economy and its debt and you'll realise it's close to economic collapse. The disintegration of Ethiopia is the biggest gift to the horn of Africa and I hope it happens soon.
Ethiopia debt is smaller then somalia also look at Somalia economy lol. You comment is pointless
Also Ethiopia empire is dead it died 1975 other then speaking bullshit read book.
Good bye TPLF!!!
Ethiopia is in a much better condition than some African countries. There are millions of somalian immigrants all over the world. Some of them including you are in Ethiopia. So, your analysis is not holding the truth. I love you as a fellow ethiopian because I believe that Ethiopia is our common home or country.
@@A.D.540 no it didn't.
Thank you for paying attention about our beloved country. Right now the jails in Ethiopia are full tigriyan ( people from Tigray). You haven't mention that.
ዜይ ዲዘርቭ ኢት ጄል ኖት የት
We have no sympathy for criminal Whether they are from north or south.
Observer from London
Hope all agame would be in jail they deserve
Where
@@nopenot4058 you don't even know what agama even mean
I like the lady ambassador
Yes! The lady diplomat sounds great!
Lool the lady ambassador sounds like she was on vacation in Ethiopia.
Solution for Ethiopian dictatorship is independence for all willing to be free. Specially the second largest ethnic group Somalis who were massacred by all regimes mentioned and is the least devoloped and does not belong to Ethiopia. It was handed to them by Britain as oil reserves and these behind the close powers shall free Somali peninsula for calm in east Africa.
3rd largest amhara & oromo out number somali
Sharing, Justice and Peace for All.
TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray are the ones who are hijacking the peace atmosphere, spoil the reform process, roughen Ethio-US relationship and incite ethnic clashes using the money they embezzled from the US and Western donated funds, their paid corrupt agents (based throughout Ethiopia), as well as China's encouragement. The TPLF wants African economy to be strongly tied with China and not the US and the West at large. For that favoritism, they have been getting corrupt funds from China continuously. So, the US, UK and EU should act fast for the speedy neutralization, elimination or even demise if they are to keep their strategic interest in the region by deterring China's secret connection with the TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray. 40% of the Tigrian population is still living on food donated by the US+West.
koala10ish
Keep blaming someone else for eternity and you will be able to save the country from integration. If you think crying day and night will improve the situation in Ethiopia wake up you are speeding up the process of Ethiopia’s disintegration . Instead I advice you to Come up with solutions to our problems.
@@koala10ish can you come up with a more interesting story this is old and boring.
@Love Tigray TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray are the ones who are hijacking the peace atmosphere, spoil the reform process, roughen Ethio-US relationship and incite ethnic clashes using the money they embezzled from the US and Western donated funds, their paid corrupt agents (based throughout Ethiopia), as well as China's encouragement.
@Rame Tekle TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray are the ones who are hijacking the peace atmosphere, spoil the reform process, roughen Ethio-US relationship and incite ethnic clashes using the money they embezzled from the US and Western donated funds, their paid corrupt agents (based throughout Ethiopia), as well as China's encouragement.
We Africans need economic growth not western democracy . western democracy brings as division among as. so we must understand the side effect of western democracy . the relationship between eri and ethiopia is the key solution particularly for East Africa in generally to Africa.Those ambassadors they only care about their especiall interests and to destabilize Africa.
Eritrea nation state we don’t even need democracy, we have to depend on our cultural and religious values relationship to deal with our political activities. Democracy influences us to surrender our selves to the western. We (Africans) need to be independent, United and free of foreign influences first. Because we never got a chance, to deal with our own problems on our own. Always have been problem after problems. Slave-trade, invasions, colonialism, war within, civil war, elections results, famine and so and so on. Let’s deal with our own issues and we can do it. They don’t have to intervene in every aspect of our continent.
@@dubisatalkiye7712 absolutely true but we have to educate our people first to have more understanding.
Eritrea nation state thx like your view but I think we need to handle the westerners wisely but never ever let them get inside of us...one main thing I want to add is, we need to grow and use our indigenous social govern system which is popular among the kush ppl in the southern Ethiopia...
ቀኝ Kegn Yes! That was what I was trying to say. We have the GADA system of Oromo people of Ethiopia which is much better and more peaceful than democratic system.
I wasn't hoping to gain a bit of knowledge out of this panel, and I didn't .
He just told that you dont want hear the fact but ethiopian problem is minorty tigirayan
Where is Donald Yukio Yamamoto is an American diplomat, He was in Ethiopia too
OK this is a very true story after i follwed this report about our country ,but on the other hand Our prime minister suppose to be or i shall say pupate leader playing the wayen game,who is in charge in Ethiopia ,can any one of you wise guys can tell the public ,
@S.M.H. media ally americawew thanks but it sounds to me the same hands who has been playing since 1974.
Africa Program but no African's on the panel as usual...
You can learn more about Ethiopia or East Africa from your couch and an internet connection.
@hagos hagoss get a life
Dr.Abiy Ahmed is a visionary Democratic leader who believes in tolerance, equality and justice. Unfortunately, the ethnic politics in which the country was ruled to empower and favor certain ethnic group had led to rifts and skepticism.
Furthermore, a great deal of challenge ahead namely, deep state, scarcity of Hard Currency and ignorance of the ethnic groups who want Dr.Abiy to solve the accumulated problems, as if he has a magic stick. I wish him all the very best, as outstanding honest leader. Keep it up Bro.
Remarks " Ethiopia kid's can't be directed by United States and similarly, Ethiopia father's also can't directed their kids in the same way that American fathers do .🧐 So, please stop intervening to our internal matters, that you can leave it to our father he can make it ✊🏾
I thanxs to mr Jenny Carson(I apologize if am not correctly mentioned your name)besides I 4wards my appreciation to the UNITED STATES OF JUSTICE having concerned to our beloved country ETHIOPIA what is going on currently in the country with the "new DOGMATIST "leader".
1:20:22 That's the Plan!
Well said, the change is real and visible. Abiy is the promise of Ethiopians and Ethiopia!!
The united States is responsible for all the atrocities that are committed in Ethiopia.
The Name of Ethiopia is fake.Who is Ethiopian? This Country lived in Illusion for decades. There 200 hundreds of ethnic differences in What is called Ethiopia. The largest ethnic of Oromo, the third and second size land The Western Somali Liberation Front WSLF also called OGADEN SOMALI never accepted the border with brothers of Somalia. I guess it's time the reality to face because the dividing force between these African Communities are huge and the is no legal international acceptable to all which they can rule as one Country existed. To add more Ethiopia is the ex Yoguslavia in Africa.
200 is Nigeria Ethiopia is 75 ethnic
Not in the interest of Ethiopia...but in the interest of ...
He butchering these habesha names!😂
1. There are more than 86 ethnic groups in the tradtional sence of it and many more if we count the newly created minorities through the mixing of cultures. And many more will be created! So the current system is not truly ethnic federalism it was just the manifestation of power and territorial expansion aspirations of certain groups with military power superiority at one time and their allies!
2. Any federal system made without the establishment of democracy first is clearly nonsense and must have other ulterior motives. And as such will not prosper but fail fast.
3. When a country has such a long history as Ethiopia things can not be smooth all the time. Eventually, we will figure out a way out of this mess! Maybe if we are lucky we get a strong outside enemy that will unite us in an instant :)
4. The main problem was not ethnicity in the first place so ethnic federalism can not solve it. It lies elsewhere! But definitely, a good system that balances shared-rule with self-rule and embraces diversity across all parts of Ethiopia goes a long way! We really don't need regional silos though. The only ones who aspire and work tirelessly are the politicians that are looking to become the next dictator! And the people know this!
5. Fun fact, article 62 of our current constitution assigns the power of interpreting itself (the law) to the house of the Federation (the equivalent of Congress). And to add more it almost entirely removes this house from the legislative role! Limiting shared rule seriously 🙈. And hence, one can call such a constitution ”session inducing” but the people know that also ;)
What are you taking about? define “our own” governance and put a logical argument forward. That way we can reach to some understanding and maybe to some solution. However exterme is your idea, you can still put it forward if it has any logic in it! It doesn’t hurt to use your brain for a change ;)
Thanks for reinforcing the ”ulterior motive” part of my assumptions! Maybe if you guys come forward with the idea openly and put it on the table for disscussion, it might get solved through proper compromise! Of course, if the idea flies in the first place ;)
@S.M.H. media ally americawew so are other african
“Zero sum gain ethnic identity that doesn’t know compromise” wow what a comment, spot on this so called pride of ethnicity in ethiopia
What Meles did is the best ever for Ethiopia!!!!!
You know sheet ! Don't play with our pain!😷
👍👍 thanks you all 🙏🙏❤💛❤💛l Love you Tigray💪💪
hahahaha, you dont have a job? you are everywhere digiral weyane
@@easymoney1661 come on don't get pissed of so much negativity? It's not our fault, you amhara don't love you own amahara region like everyone else love their lol.
@@A.D.540 hhahahhah Look at your profile picture dumb ass.
@@easymoney1661 lol the land is amhara but the church achievement is built by agaw lalibela that wasn't mix with habesha DNA. Read book Shaw don't speak Amharic as official language but second that have been oppressed by semantic amhara
@@A.D.540 you agames are disgusting . you are full of hate.
who are you to tell us who is amahra or not ( i spit on your face) Agew is core being of amhara, you dont get to decided who is amhara or not. dirty leba yekin jibo timb tigra
Where are they on Iraq war
I do not believe the diaspora know what is going on in Ethiopia. What they do know is what they see in social media from those who do not want to give up the privilege they had the last 27 years as well as those who few individuals who are looking for attention. Your information should depend upon the views and perspectives of those who live in the country.
The Gang Member ( ),and his Messangers (Tplf)
Zeregna
Good confession !
Dear US diplomats and respected friends of Ethiopia.Thank you so much for your support for the ongoing change in Ethiopia under the leadership of Dr Abiy Ahmed who has shown a unique leadership full of forgiveness and national reconciliation.I trust God and very optimistic the change in Ethiopia never reversed and you have great ability to help the change and force those criminals hiding in the Tegray region in North Ethiopia and those at diaspora who were part of the very abusive 27 evil rules of TPLF.Also US politicians and leaders should continue observing the democratic flow in Ethiopia that those extremists from Dr Abiy party who ally with the former rebel OLF with dismantling Ethiopia never get a chance to infiltrate Dr Abiy;s government.There are also extremists on the other side who support the previous military regime and the feudal emperor who do not want those ethnic groups enjoy their freedom.
There has been no freedom for any one under TPLF rule, you just deluded with Ethnic freedom. If an individual has no freedom there is no a group freedom.
Observer from London
U said change. What kind of change
Ethiopia can only exist as a federalism, other than that it will not exist as a country and will Diffiniatley divide small state countries. But that's bad idea even because look the Arabs or even EU.
But Time will tell whether Ethiopia exists as a country or divide.
@Twenty Faces it's not the issue of liking or hating but it's the truth on the ground Ethiopia due to internal issues and external interest it's had to exist as a country unless to democratise and be federal state which is hard process for Ethiopia
@Twenty Faces It is a backwards mentality to be stuck on tribalism while the rest of the world have evolved away from this.
@Twenty Faces because one amhara united the country through blood killing 6m innocent from this 5m were oromo which is more then Italy 1m death. Italy 7% & Menelik 2 55%. Second amhara steel land, force culture, treadtion & faith.
@@qarreeayantumekonnen1205 no the world hasn't evolved that is lie European countries are named after their ethnic after ww2 boxer changed any European country more then one ethnic wants independent even in Asia . This is why one ethnic nation are more stable. it's stable.
Wonderfu discussion.
why the assumption that ethnic federalism was a necessity?
Because of amhara force assimilation not just language but also culture, treadtion, faith & land settlement replacing other ethnic from their ancestors land. Amara have muderd 5m oromo & 1m more if you include other ethnic from different region.
@@A.D.540 let us assume what you say is true. What is your evidence that ethnic federalism is the best solution to address it?
@@yekolotemari well the feeling of the people might change one change could be free of land stolen, the chance of other ethnic taking other ethnic land becomes harder as they have to speak the native Toung of that region to work & study. Before people didn't learn other region language, they just want settled & force majority to speak their tounge including remove. That is one simple example. Second most of this ethnic hate each other putting them in to one will just expand hate much faster.
Example tigray& afar love each other, yet thirst & Amara hate each other, Somali & oromo like each other, yet Somali and Amara hate each other.
In what universe can you see unfedralism take place in Ethiopia based on ancient yet.
@ChelseafcTube how is that it's not my fault reality isn't in you side.
@ChelseafcTube if its lie go to somali region & ask who they hate between oromo & amhara, ask tigray who they hate between afar and amhara.
Akana
1:38:47
This black old man had no idea what he's talking about
abiy is the best man every he's my president
Hirut Zeru denez
He is the best man of Gala
You guys don't know the time ticking bomb of ethnic tension in the country
Asmara you wish!! God is all rhe time protect Ethiopia
@@dinkumengesha7026 I also believe in that, but those talking are the archetects of poverty and conflict around the world
Ethiopia civil war is coming soon believe that because people Ethiopia aren’t same people. Just like Yugoslavia. That is why is coming soon civil war.
So is Kenya so is Nigeria, so as south Africa lol.
Congratulations you just predicted a civil war
Abey Ahmed is the best president in Africa long live my hero
Donald Booth promoting ethnic federalism made me really disappointed.
TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray are the ones who are hijacking the peace atmosphere, spoil the reform process, roughen Ethio-US relationship and incite ethnic clashes using the money they embezzled from the US and Western donated funds, their paid corrupt agents (based throughout Ethiopia), as well as China's encouragement. The TPLF wants African economy to be strongly tied with China and not the US and the West at large. For that favoritism, they have been getting corrupt funds from China continuously. So, the US, UK and EU should act fast for the speedy neutralization, elimination or even demise if they are to keep their strategic interest in the region by deterring China's secret connection with the TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray. 40% of the Tigrian population is still living on food donated by the US+West.
Other shirty amhara domination lover, we're is you evidence puff none.
@@A.D.540 TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray are the ones who are hijacking the peace atmosphere, spoil the reform process, roughen Ethio-US relationship
@@koala10ish actually it been found out its actually olf every time. A thirst person that got killed in fonder was killed by 3 olf , then few days Amara dies in album university, when abut came to power first time it was founded out the person with grenade was olf oromo, people who robbed oromo bank were olf. Yet people still blame thirst yet nobody has the evidence to prove it.
@@A.D.540 TPLF's Sebhat Nega is using and paying OLF to execute its proxy war and the US Embassy in Addis knows it. So, US and UK will take action on TPLF very soon to help Abiy consolidate his open, peaceful and inclusive administration!
@@A.D.540 TPLF junta/clique based in Mekelle - Tigray are the ones who are hijacking the peace atmosphere, spoil the reform process, roughen Ethio-US relationship and incite ethnic clashes using the money they embezzled from the US and Western donated funds
Kechacha Asfa......loooool.
Amhara people no history no identity the lost Amhara people are trying to take the great people Tigrai history Civilization but will never happen. Amharay is selfish people lost people lost identity in The so called Ethiopia
@ChelseafcTube when memes was in power it was people vs government for more human right. 👉 Amharacomes to power more displacement, out of control political rebel parties, hate based on religion & ethnic. Their was low hate druing meles few hated him but people never hated each other. Amharaare virseof unstability.
For your information for over 27 years TPLF was controlled all the governments power not EPRDF. This is one of the reasons now TPLF when they lose the power they dont want to stay within their party EPRDF. Ceating issue and unstabilty in the country.
Nope wrong 3 reason we don't want to be part of Ethiopia?
1) amhara want to steal our land
2) Amara say one love, one Ethiopia yet they action show the opposite not just today but also past leaders.
3) Amhara like to blame without evidence which is dangers.
bla bla bla.