aaaaaaaaa i'm so glad this is back up!!! i was absolutely OBSESSED with this amv (and tribbleofdoom's entire channel tbh) when i was in middle school ❤ i still listen to this song all the time, it fuckin slaps
Thrushpelt accepted the fact Bluestar (Fur at the time) didn't love him. He didn't go pyscho over it like Ashfur, and he even offered to act like the kits father. If only Ashfur was like that...
When I first saw this video years ago, I thought Scourge was Hollyleaf, Squirrelflight and Firestar were the same cat and same with Brambleclaw and Hawkfrost. I was so confused.
Helps a cat from other Clan trap his leader, nearly get him killed, then nearly kills three Clanmates, then is about to tell their secret at the Gathering, to not only ruin their lives but make other Clans look down on ThunderClan for this. HOW IS THIS PIECE OF TRASH IN STARCLAN?!
In what way was Squirrelflight being a jerk, people? She let him down incredibly gently and tried very hard to make him happy after rejecting him. She can't help not loving him, and it would be wrong for her to ignore her own feelings to make Ashfur happy. He took it way too far. And remember, he did commit murder. He helped kill Firestar. And the intent is just as bad as the action. It's like saying that Tigerstar didn't actually kill Bluestar so that should be forgiven. Ashfur was disgusting and his actions would have crippled ThunderClan. He nearly destroyed his clan on three occasions just to spite a cat whose only crime was not loving him back. Seriously? And don't get me wrong. I don't love Squirrelflight at all. But I can't stand Ashfur.
People make mistakes. Remember that now, and most of them are due to Sadness, Confusion, and Anger. He went through some pretty tough shit throughout his life. That can leave a scar in your heart, especially if it's a weak one.
Still, Ferncloud went through tougher being his sister and all. He lost his mother, so did she. He got rejected, she lost most of her kits. And she never went nuts. See, I actually do think Ashfur is an interesting, well-written character, but I can't find him sympathetic in the slightest.
Ashfur never even felt remorse for what he did. He wanted to cause as much pain as possible. That's the definition of evil. Crookedstar became deformed and everyone he loved died and he didn't act like Ashfur. If he did something bad he felt remorse and hated himself.
It makes me sad to see how much his love for Squirrelflight destroyed him. Ashfur has always been one of my favorite characters and he always will be and it is a trajedy for him to be consumed by this rejection. Ashfur is a good cat and he didn't deserve any of this. 😔
Oh he deserved his death, he choose the poor path, "Oh he just loved her!She broke up with him " If he truly loved Squirrel, then he would only want to see her happy.
Thing is, guys, Squirrelflight didn't love him. You can't blame her for her feelings. She wasn't using him either. Sure, breaking his heart wasn't good, and she could have been nicer to him, but she didn't want to hurt him. Ashfur, yeah, he was going through a lot, but he went nuts and tried to kill not only Firestar, but her kits as well- JUST BECAUSE HE WAS HEARTBROKEN. How is that justifiable? Can you really tell me that being heartbroken is an excuse to attempt murder? And no, I don't like Squirrel. I always was annoyed by her. But I think you guys are blinded by your love for Ashfur just a bit. Not saying Ash was evil either; Neither were great cats.
I know what you are trying to say, but again, being heartbroken does not justify attempted murder of innocents. If someone you loved broke up with you, would you go and try to kill their father or children just for revenge? No! Ashfur may have had sympathetic reasoning, and I agree that Squirrel was not entirely in the right either, but he wasn't just heartbroken, he was sick. (Not illness sick, but mentally). I just don't think this whole thing is so black and white like many people make it out to be- neither of them were saints, both did bad things, and in the end, both were left a shell of themselves and trapped in a position where nothing they could do would fix it- not murder, not secret keeping, nothing. That said, I've always liked Ashfur as a character more than Squirrel, who annoyed the hell out of me. I'm just looking at it from a standpoint of one character versus another, not who I personally like more. Because sometimes your favorite characters can be in the wrong, and that's something people need to realize.
Squirrelflight and Ashfur were never together. Squirrelflight rejected him and honestly, she isn't evil for it. Ashfur *is* evil for trying to burn people alive. Being heartbroken isn't an excuse to kill.
I personally find Ashfur amazing, because apparently people forgot Brindleface was his mother. I believe he didn't know who is father was, so really, the only loved ones in his life were Ferncloud and Brindleface. But then Brindleface died, and Ferncloud stopped hanging around him because she became too busy with her kits. Then Squirrelflight came into his life, and he felt loved again and wanted, but then she leaves him for one of his friends. So I don't think he deserved to die.
Wow! Funny seeing you here. The name? Um....have you looked in the description becuase i really don.t know. Maybe the name is Hurt. But i have no idea what the artist is.
The ironic thing here? Ashfur turning to the dark side was completely pointless in hindsight when you realize that Brambleclaw is an awful partner to Squirrelflight. The reason she went to Ashfur in the first place was BECAUSE of Brambleclaw treating her like an inferior, but then all of a sudden, he starts acting all "sweet" which causes Squirrelflight to back to him, which results in Ashfur going from a supportive friend to a venomous third wheel because...why not? And you know what's more infuriating, even after all that happens with Ashfur, Brambleclaw goes back to treating Squirrelflight terribly. So essentially, Ashfur and Squirrelflight get completely screwed over by the narrative and parts of the fandom while Brambleclaw appears to get off Scott-free in both departments. Rather sad when you think about it.
Agreed. To be honest, I understand that they wanted Ashfur to be "crazy" and all for the plot, but really it was kinda out of character for him. Squirrelflight and Ashfur could've been mates and everything would be fine.
@@doctahlynn Wholeheartedly agree, they should have honestly just had Squirrelflight stay with Ashfur and not suddenly make Brambleclaw all "nice" and "sweet" as if to give an excuse as to why she should get back together with him despite all he put her through and considering all that he would do after the whole Ashfur thing went down. That way, it saves screwing over two characters just to keep one up on a pedestal.
I feel bad for Ashfur, but honestly, he went absolutely INSANE!! He tried to kill. Honestly, couldn't he just found another she-cat and had kits with her? Ashfur went besurk because Squirrelflight didn't love him. Don't you think that's a bit overreacting. Whoever fails to see that really needs to confont the authors or somethin'.
Wings Of Lives Spoiler Alert for Omen of the Stars! Actually, there is a chance Ashfur is the father of Ivypool and Dovewing instead of Birchfall. At least that's what i think
Wings Of Lives I kind of see him as a male Yandere. People don't hate on /female/ yanderes, so why does a /male/ yandere get all the hate? Right, because Warriors is English and not Japanese. I forgot. |:C
Kyouko Kirigiri ***** FiveNights1 Productions jason severs Luis Echevarria I don't believe that omen of the stars thing. I've read it, Ashfur and Birchfrost barely interacted with each other, and definitely didn't LOVE each other enough to have kits. Also, I'm not hating on Ashfur, he's sweet in a way, and I haven't read up that much on Mapleshade. :/
9 year old me: Wow, Ashfur is so dramatic and edgy! Just get over her! 15 year old me: I now understand Ashfur... being heartbroken can sometimes literally drive you insane.
Not justifying any of Ashfur’s actions, just saying I can now understand his feelings and what caused him to snap. The pain of wanting someone you can’t have is just unbearable.
It's so sad that Ashfur got killed by Hollyleaf... and all for nothing! she gave the secret away even after killing Ashfur so that he wouldn't! -.- If Squirrelflight had loved Ashfur then he probably would've been one of the Clan's greatest warriors in history!
+Silver Song It wasn't his right to tell though. Yes it was over reacting of her and I agree that she shouldn't have done that but maybe it was kinda needed? I mean otherwise there probably was no stopping him from revealing his secret. Besides, she wasn't thinking clearly anyway. I blame the trauma and shock she was in for killing him. Besides, He tried to fry her and her siblings, and being with in a clan where there's such a unbalanced justice system and how unpredictable things were in the clans, I can understand her killing him. I mean if those aren't justified reasons for killing him I don't know what it is.
Ashfur could have been a really great., deep, and relatable character, but no the Erins just had to screw it up (Sorry the spelling is terrible i know))
Squirrelflight says it as lightly as she can, willing you to forgive her, but what do you do? You try to kill everyone who was close to her, plus the CLAN LEADER. How could Firestar have forgotten that? He should have banished Ashfur from ThunderClan. Ashfur deserves to go to the Dark Forest more than a lot of other cats like Thistleclaw and Mapleshade. Thistleclaw has never even killed a cat before. Ashfur has attempted 4 murders and FAILED. He was revealed for his treachery, but what did everyone do? Of course they forgave "poor Ashfur" because "He has gone through so much in his life".
Nightshadow Of RiverClan I do, I am currently re-reading the New Prophecy, and it seems to me she is using him to get Brambleclaw to understand her uneasiness in Hawkfrost. I can see Ashfur is falling more into her as they spend more time together.
littlejohnny2000 I can't deny what you said is true. However, it seemed Ashfur already knew Squirrelflight was not actually in love with him, as she avoided any acts of romance with him. When Squirrelflight clarified she wished to be with Brambleclaw, as I said before, he probably already knew. But of course, he makes a big scene about it, and tries to kill 90% of her family/friends.
Nightshadow Of RiverClan Well, all he wanted was for her to love him back.. But instead, she ends up betraying him, and using a knife to drain the love out of his heart. When a wound in your heart is that deep, there's no stopping you from showing that person the unbearable emotional pain they caused you.
Why so much hate on Ashfur? I understand he tried killing "her kits" and some of the clan but he truly loved and trusted her, but she didn't return his love, and that must've been the worst feeling for him. Personally I think Ashfur deserved a chance with Squirrelflight, let alone a she cat better than her. I don't hate Squirrel, but I dislike her. The way she rejected Ashfur was pretty upsetting.
but i find that notfair! why squerrelflight quit ashfur?? me if ima squerreflight i will say to brawbeclaw: NO NO NO AND NO i DUNT WANNA DATE YA I ALREADY HAVE A BF!!!!!! PLZ LET MEH ONELY DUDE
Because of this video, I am completely obsessed with this song and it will always remind me of Warrior Cats. The nostalgia makes me cry every time I hear it.
Let’s settle something. He did not love Squirrelflight. Not one bit. He loved the IDEA of her. When you love someone, you want them to be happy, even if you are sad. If you think the proper response is to get angry, get help. You are a danger to society and yourself. Remember, these cats are anthropomorphised. We HAVE to treat them like humans. Ashfur may have been a decent cat before, but Squirrelflight’s rejection did not just suddenly turn him evil. He was already weak in the head. Already a little loose. The glass was already about to shatter. Ashfur was able to control himself before because he never had any interaction with Squirrelflight. Once he got a taste, he was convinced that he was entitled to her love. He didn’t love her. He was possessive and passive-aggressive. That’s abuse. That’s abuse and there’s no other way to swing it. He is NOT a good cat. I don’t care if you like Ashfur. Do NOT make excuses for him because you’re wrong and that’s that. He was decent before. Okay. But that doesn’t change the fact that he was an abusive asshole before he died. StarClan was wrong about him. He should have gone to the dark forest. Also, you want to know why Thistleclaw went to the dark forest? Because he was training with them and didn’t feel bad about it. He wanted the kind of strength they provided him and it wasn’t because he wanted to be a good warrior. Also, Bluestar did not chase him out of StarClan. That’s been proven false many times over. But back to my original point. Ashfur is not misunderstood. He’s an abusive, manipulative, angry asshole. He deserved everything that came to him except for StarClan.
well I mean I agree with you there but I think that he had some sort of cat bpd or somethin and shit. he shoulda talked to someone ngl that wouldve probably fixed everything So yeah he sucked n shit but man I wish he had gotten better instead of having it be his downfall
Ashfur loved Squirrelflight, but she oved Brambleclaw. Ashfur tried to keep Squirrelflight away from danger, but that was not Squirrelflight's destiny. Her destiny was to be with Brambleclaw, and Ashfur shouldn't blame her, or StarClan, but just face the fact that he and Squirrelflight weren't ment to be.
1. He's her uncle. Sandstorm's his half-sister or something. 2. They were never mates. She was barely aware that he liked her like that. 3. WHY DID HE GO INSANE THAT MUCH?! At least murder Brambleclaw, who STOLE Squirrelflight from you! Don't attack her father! AND WHY DID YOU GO THAT BAD IN THE FIRST PLACE?! Ugh. Ashflight was a sweet ship, but there's nothing we can do about it now. Squirrel X Bramble's endgame. Not that I particularly care......... I'm looking forward to Spark and Alder.
WolfFrost TheMagnificent Ashfur was squirrelflights half neice but squirrelflight is ashfur's half uncle cause sandstorm is ashfur's half brother and sandstorm is the mother of squirrelflight.but i hate when hollyleaf killed ashfur. I thought hollyleaf's was the happiest but a idiot named 'pumastarofdarkclan' said ashfur's death was happy i then got triggered and unsub to 'pumastarofdarkclan' and i knew her channle was really stuipd.
Hello from the future, having to type “warrior cats” is getting less results than “warriors” people all love the fannon Spottedleaf, more than canon. Maps amvs and pmvs are at an all time high in production, quality and viewership. And everyone pokes fun at ashfur the neck beard nice guy while preferring to not make a scene about scourges collar All is well and good Except medicine cats still can’t have kits despite the numbers of mcs
Squirrelflight:You see Ashfur, you're not my type. A $hfUr: wOt du yuo m3anz sw33t1e? 1,m pArfEECtly n0rm4l! BrambleClaw: m8 no sHe mien m8 she m1n3 Toms these days...
***** The only Jerk here is you. You gotta understand that when people's hearts are broken, they can't see straight. They make mistakes, they do things that they don't mean. When someone commits a crime, you automatically think that they're bad. But doing something bad doesn't make you a criminal.
Yuno Gasai: Female Yandere, loved by pretty much everyone that's ever seen Future Diary. Ashfur: MALE Yandere, hated by pretty much everyone that's ever read Warriors. Yuno Gasai: Killed way more people than Ashfur, still loved. Ashfur: Attempted to kill 4, hated. ..What the fuck? Where's the logic in this?
+SwiftNorthenSnowfall OfTheCentury What, so because one's a Japanese anime and one's an English novel, Ashfur can't be considered a valid Yandere? Ashfur can't get any love at all? Your logic is flawed.
Yellowfang: His only fault was that he loved TOO much. Me: O rly. Now, from what I've read, like most of the series anyways, even with my foggy memory, seemed to me like Squirrelflight was just using him. Which ultimately crushed Ashfur. He isn't be no Thrushpelt by no means, but with the dark turn that went with each passing series so did the character. Now I wait for the comments saying "Duuuuuurp Assfur sawks!" But to end this, Ashfur is like a less tragic Scourge and less debate about collars.
Squrrilflight needed comfort so as Ashfur wanted to be freinds she got the comfort but suddenly Ashfur admits he likes her and even before this Squrrilflight says she does't like him. It was going to end badly either way.
Cloudy. Kinda. She used him to fill the void left by Brambleclaw. When it was filled up, she suddenly left him and went straight to Brambleclaw. You don't do that.
Gais, before I get spammed with notifications about a pointless debate, a better thing to think about, is why ThunderClan gets all the attention. (Ship everything so even if one thing fails, you got so many backups, it doesn't matter)
You can't help but feel bad for ashfur, he went through a lot earlier in life, seeing his friend die (swift paw) and the other being called lost face, his mother had been ripped apart by dogs, and his sister had moved on, maybe didn't care about him. Like he said, he met squirrel flight and though his life would be better, he wanted love so badly he went insane for it, watching the only person you have walk away from you is one of the painful things in life, and having to watch them cry and smile without you there is ten times harder. He had thorn claw, one of his only friends, and that was it. Ashfur might have been insane, but he was insane for the right reasons.
When I watched this about 2 years ago or so I literally cried. I couldn't help it. Ashfur was my favortie and I was hoping that Squirrelflight and him would get together cuz I honestly think they would make adorable kits but NOOO. xD Love this video
Everyone that is hating on Ashfur needs to stop drooling over Squirrelflight and listen. If your life was torn to shreds around you- your mother dies, you don't know your father, your friend gets more privileges than you because he's related to someone special, and the girl you love's crush is the son of the one who killed your mother in the first place and yet he still gets pity and also special treatment, how wouldn't you go insane when the girl you gave your heart and soul to let you down "gently", even when, this whole time, it's been her fault? She's been leading you on, making you think that it's so possible to fill that space in her heart, with the cuddles as you go to sleep, constant chatting, hunts, and the times she always invites you to talk to her? So you go for it. You tell her you love her, and you want to take this to the next level. Only to be turned down and watch her go with (that) guy, the guy that is the son of your mother's killer. The one you thought was your friend. The one you were growing to despise. And it hurt so much. That pain that's been looming over your heart since that tragic day is growing in a dark, dark cloud, and your falling into a black, bottomless hole, and nobody can stop it? The girl that you loved turned away from you when you needed her most. You needed someone to lean on, but nobody is there. Just air. And your thoughts. Your ugly, ugly thoughts. The thoughts that lead into memories of blood. All of you Ashfur "haters" who also like to refer to him as Assfur for whatever reason, never stop and think from Ashfur's point of view. Especially when he is given the task later on to prepare and take "care" of the girl you love and the man you hate's son, who looks so happy but doesn't know anything. This son you want yourself to hate, convince yourself to do so, but overtime it grows somewhat real and somewhat into love. And that, my friends, is when you broke. The last straw. It was like the world was against you, and you just wanted to fall on your knees and see what you did wrong, ask for forgiveness, die, not exist. Nobody loved you anymore. Everyone you loved left you. That is what Ashfur feels like. Take a moment and put yourself into his body and life and know that, yes, he did some very wretched things such as trying to murder cats, but also realize he didn't murder them and he had a choice and he ran from it. Instead of continuing to spread the fire, thus killing Squirrelflight and Hollyleaf, Jayfeather, and Lionblaze, he ran away from it. Be somewhat thankful that your favorite character(s) did not die. And actually know that Ashfur was barely into that little "plan" to kill Firestar. All he did was trick and watch. He did not lay a claw on that Ginger's fur, so he did not commit any crime. So Squirrelflight should also be a little relieved and understanding that if Ashfur helped, then Firestar surely would be dead by now. Or at least, have lost a life. Bottom line is, Ashfur had a choice to do a lot of shitty things but being the considerate cat he was, didn't it. He took part in it in a way, yes, but at the same time, did not shed any blood in the process, did not have lives on his paws. I think Erin Hunter was wrong to do the things she did to him, and instead of coming up with the idiotic plan of killing him off for foolish, careless reasons, especially because it was Hollyleaf that killed him and let out the secret in the first place, she could have did it these ways: Ashfur told the clans at the gathering, hence demoting Leafpool and embarrassing Squirrelflight, and found someone that he ended up loving, probably a random character and a life that did him justice. 2. He ended up not telling anyone about anything because Hollyleaf convinced him not to (Therefore when she tells everyone at the gathering, it makes much more sense) out of fear, and then Ashfur continued to lead a normal life with a possible lover and a family. Out of dept, Squirrelflight and Leafpool's kits don't say anything about Ashfur's attempted murder plans, and they all apologize to each other, but keep their separate ways.
So so tragic like scourge and tigerstar or ( The better characters) Bluestar Crookedstar and poor lonely Firestar notice something here. Ashfur (Assfur is rude but sorta fitting) falls in group 1 not group 2
yourfavoriteanon I agree that he shouldn't have so much hate against him, but you also have to understand that Squirrelflight only ever saw him as a close friend. Whatever chemistry he felt with her was all in his head. She did NOT lead him on, especially not on purpose. He made his own choices, and even if he didn't kill anyone it doesn't change the fact that he wanted to, that he would have had the situation been different. He was aiding and abetting Hawkfrost in his crime, even if he didn't have much to do with it. He would have killed Squirrel's "kits" just to see her in pain. That's not what you do when you love someone, no matter how hurt you feel because they didn't love you the way you loved them. It's selfish, cruel and evil. The issue was between him, Squirrelflight, and perhaps Brambleclaw. Not three young cats who had no choice in who their parents were. Nor the father of the one he's angry with. But I do agree with you, Hollyleaf shouldn't have killed him, he didn't deserve to die but he does deserve to be punished in some way. I say let him stay single for the rest of his life. It's a justified punishment because after what he put Squirrel through, he doesn't really deserve to have anyone by his side. He needs to know the difference between love and obsession first. Perhaps he can find true love in another life.
Thanks for the comment! I actually thought it would turn out negatively (they usually do) but I have to say this made me see a bit differently. It's really nice to see someone in the fandom that won't post telling me how shitty Ashfur is and how his "fangirls" are corrupted.
yourfavoriteanon You're very welcome! I'm actually an Ashfur fan turned hater turned neutral party..soo I've been on all sides of this particular argument for about two years now. xD Now that Ashfur is in StarClan, I think he needs to have a nice long chat with Thrushpelt (and a right scolding from his mother, because she would NOT approve of his behavior). I feel it would really help him. At the end of it all, I feel that what Yellowfang told Jayfeather was the truth. Squirrelflight's and Ashfur's only real problems were that they loved too much.
Watched this a long time ago when I was younger I was innocent and never realized what my future would be I'm older now and relate to ashfur in this I had a girlfriend she then admitted she was seeing her other friend and loved him Someone promised to help me get rid of her and ban her by getting her in trouble with a fake lie and I said okay and then they got banned instead and then my friends didn't trust me and took a while to trust me again others didn't trust me ever again. I'm still trying to get over her but my pain hurts and the anger is burning..
tribbleofdoom, Your just SO amazing. I especially LOVE you COTW series that you made. Your so amazing with drawing. I draw a little in real life. I can never understand how to do it on computer, But your amazing at it.
Ashfur helped Hawkfrost with Firestar's trap?? What???... Well, sorry still on sixth Power of Three book here XD Once again Tribble you rock! I want more from you :D
I just cant stop thinking about how he was when he was an apprentice and lost his mother and who the hell even was his father and he lost his friend at a young age and he was such a good warrior, one that would have continued to serve his clan. I know theres sooooooo much debate about him as a character but personally, i like him! In no way would I excuse what he did. WRONG WRONG WRONG> but if you ask me, Ashfur to me represents something like a mental illness in which a lot of people won't get- and everything seems so much worse. He fell in love. He really, really, fell in love. And squirrelflight; while not intending to probably; did play him and lead him on and how hurtful must that have been to Ashfur? Heartbreaking. Devastating. When he thought he'd actually found something he could have that would be amazing, and he poured his heart into her and gave her so much support etc, only to have it ripped from him. So he must think- she never loved him in the first place, yeah. And to be told that? Horrible!!! Of course you're going to be in turmoil; absolute devastation. The way i see his reaction is he was so hurt and he didn't know what else to do; because it just seemed like she didn't care she'd broken his heart or whatever and now they had these kits and he couldn't bear it cause HE wanted that life with her, a family to raise, his mate whom he loved. I'm glad he went to starclan. I wish him and squirrel ended up together, or at least he had another cat to love and have a family with. :(
Yea! You are SOO right! Ashfur didn't deserve Squirrelflight especially when he did ALL that he could for her! She just tossed it down the drain and went for Brambleclaw! D:
'Ashfur is a kind, handsome cat who clearly thinks a lot of her. But the connection she has with Brambleclaw is very special because they went through so much together on the journey to sun-drown-place' Squirrelflight loved Brambleclaw first
aaaaaaaaa i'm so glad this is back up!!! i was absolutely OBSESSED with this amv (and tribbleofdoom's entire channel tbh) when i was in middle school ❤ i still listen to this song all the time, it fuckin slaps
If only Ashfur had been like Thrushpelt...
I'm new to warriors. Plz explain!
Yes
Shadowstorm23 luckliy? Explain how's it lucky.
Thrushpelt accepted the fact Bluestar (Fur at the time) didn't love him. He didn't go pyscho over it like Ashfur, and he even offered to act like the kits father. If only Ashfur was like that...
Shadowstorm23 but luckliy hollyleaf kills him.
Sorry about that but that's not that lucky ;-;
it's been 7 years since this was posted...I am no okay with this.
You feel old too?
I always feel old when watching this ;-; I'm not even that old
***** noted.
Almost 8 >O
feeling old man, jeez, I was 10 when this came out. Almost 18 now.
Hawkfrost: death by a stick
JUST THOUGHT ABOUT THAT LAWL
Lol
*Jayfeather is screaming*
When I first saw this video years ago, I thought Scourge was Hollyleaf, Squirrelflight and Firestar were the same cat and same with Brambleclaw and Hawkfrost.
I was so confused.
The Phantom
I used to think Fireheart/star and Bluestar were mates o,o
Hahahaha!...Sorry what.
Lol same with Holly leaf
☩ Monsieur Madeleine ☩ lol
THIS IS WHAT GOT ME INTO WARRIORS, THANKS FOR BRINGING IT BACK OMGG
THANK GOD WE GET THIS GEM BACK
Don't mind me, just on a nostalgia journey, rewatching the only video I ever thought about when I was 11
you're lucky i stayed up until 4 am thinking bout the old days
same
WHAT A MOOD
Me: watches this vid
Me: watches My Pride "Wow, Improvement!"
I saw this for the first time 4 years ago and I'm still obsessed.
Yes I'm rereading Warriors.
Don't judge me.
Grace Keller no one cares
Geez
I feel so old
I remember watchinf it years ago
Helps a cat from other Clan trap his leader, nearly get him killed, then nearly kills three Clanmates, then is about to tell their secret at the Gathering, to not only ruin their lives but make other Clans look down on ThunderClan for this. HOW IS THIS PIECE OF TRASH IN STARCLAN?!
Because of his *luxurious golend fur*
All he did was love too much
Tide Pod Pad Thai no he didnt
@@matthewmadjehe you mean *golden*
And he’s come back this arc
1:53 I love how everyone’s freaking out, and then there’s jayfeather like: “tf is happening”
1:53 Jayfeather is not amused
How can he watch it he is blind
+Ity_bity_eevee_11 #blue star He's not deaf. He knows what's going on.
I was just trying to make a joke about his facial expression compared to everyone else in the scene
+Rynneer oh sorry
+Ity_bity_eevee_11 #blue star No worries
In what way was Squirrelflight being a jerk, people? She let him down incredibly gently and tried very hard to make him happy after rejecting him. She can't help not loving him, and it would be wrong for her to ignore her own feelings to make Ashfur happy. He took it way too far. And remember, he did commit murder. He helped kill Firestar. And the intent is just as bad as the action. It's like saying that Tigerstar didn't actually kill Bluestar so that should be forgiven. Ashfur was disgusting and his actions would have crippled ThunderClan. He nearly destroyed his clan on three occasions just to spite a cat whose only crime was not loving him back. Seriously?
And don't get me wrong. I don't love Squirrelflight at all. But I can't stand Ashfur.
People make mistakes. Remember that now, and most of them are due to Sadness, Confusion, and Anger.
He went through some pretty tough shit throughout his life. That can leave a scar in your heart, especially if it's a weak one.
Still, Ferncloud went through tougher being his sister and all. He lost his mother, so did she. He got rejected, she lost most of her kits. And she never went nuts. See, I actually do think Ashfur is an interesting, well-written character, but I can't find him sympathetic in the slightest.
Ashfur never even felt remorse for what he did. He wanted to cause as much pain as possible. That's the definition of evil.
Crookedstar became deformed and everyone he loved died and he didn't act like Ashfur. If he did something bad he felt remorse and hated himself.
This was one of my favorite warrior cats videos when I was little and I’m really glad I’ve found it again
It makes me sad to see how much his love for Squirrelflight destroyed him. Ashfur has always been one of my favorite characters and he always will be and it is a trajedy for him to be consumed by this rejection. Ashfur is a good cat and he didn't deserve any of this. 😔
true
ashfur has always be my favorite too
D,,,,:
Oh he deserved his death, he choose the poor path, "Oh he just loved her!She broke up with him " If he truly loved Squirrel, then he would only want to see her happy.
i agree hes my favorite worrior cat and i under stand how he feels i dont really don't like hollyleaf i hate brambleclaw and squirrelflight
Wow your getting better and better! The part with Tigerstar singing and the part with Ashgur running are both amazing!!!!
Destiny Kishpaugh sorry XC never read warriors xD
ThreeTailed FoxGirl
its ok :3
Thing is, guys, Squirrelflight didn't love him. You can't blame her for her feelings. She wasn't using him either. Sure, breaking his heart wasn't good, and she could have been nicer to him, but she didn't want to hurt him.
Ashfur, yeah, he was going through a lot, but he went nuts and tried to kill not only Firestar, but her kits as well- JUST BECAUSE HE WAS HEARTBROKEN. How is that justifiable? Can you really tell me that being heartbroken is an excuse to attempt murder?
And no, I don't like Squirrel. I always was annoyed by her. But I think you guys are blinded by your love for Ashfur just a bit. Not saying Ash was evil either; Neither were great cats.
Ashfur is a cat who was broken up with so that Squirrelflight could go fuck another cat. Do you know how much damage that does to people emotionally?
I know what you are trying to say, but again, being heartbroken does not justify attempted murder of innocents. If someone you loved broke up with you, would you go and try to kill their father or children just for revenge? No! Ashfur may have had sympathetic reasoning, and I agree that Squirrel was not entirely in the right either, but he wasn't just heartbroken, he was sick. (Not illness sick, but mentally). I just don't think this whole thing is so black and white like many people make it out to be- neither of them were saints, both did bad things, and in the end, both were left a shell of themselves and trapped in a position where nothing they could do would fix it- not murder, not secret keeping, nothing.
That said, I've always liked Ashfur as a character more than Squirrel, who annoyed the hell out of me. I'm just looking at it from a standpoint of one character versus another, not who I personally like more. Because sometimes your favorite characters can be in the wrong, and that's something people need to realize.
Squirrelflight and Ashfur were never together. Squirrelflight rejected him and honestly, she isn't evil for it. Ashfur *is* evil for trying to burn people alive. Being heartbroken isn't an excuse to kill.
Yawning Lion ohmgosh I know
Rachel Nope lmao
Here it is, the video that threw me down the TribbleofDoom rabbit hole is now a decade old
I personally find Ashfur amazing, because apparently people forgot Brindleface was his mother. I believe he didn't know who is father was, so really, the only loved ones in his life were Ferncloud and Brindleface. But then Brindleface died, and Ferncloud stopped hanging around him because she became too busy with her kits. Then Squirrelflight came into his life, and he felt loved again and wanted, but then she leaves him for one of his friends. So I don't think he deserved to die.
Ashfur is my favorite character.
This still is amazing. It aged very well.
This is a throwback- I obsessed over this video as well as many others. It’s been years-.
I remember first watching this! XD I was 7!
I remember you showing it to me. By the way what's the name of this song
Wow! Funny seeing you here. The name? Um....have you looked in the description becuase i really don.t know. Maybe the name is Hurt. But i have no idea what the artist is.
+Lps DerpaDerp Hurt by Thousand Foot Krutch
+ExoticWaste _ hi
BRUH. x3
The ironic thing here? Ashfur turning to the dark side was completely pointless in hindsight when you realize that Brambleclaw is an awful partner to Squirrelflight.
The reason she went to Ashfur in the first place was BECAUSE of Brambleclaw treating her like an inferior, but then all of a sudden, he starts acting all "sweet" which causes Squirrelflight to back to him, which results in Ashfur going from a supportive friend to a venomous third wheel because...why not? And you know what's more infuriating, even after all that happens with Ashfur, Brambleclaw goes back to treating Squirrelflight terribly.
So essentially, Ashfur and Squirrelflight get completely screwed over by the narrative and parts of the fandom while Brambleclaw appears to get off Scott-free in both departments. Rather sad when you think about it.
Agreed. To be honest, I understand that they wanted Ashfur to be "crazy" and all for the plot, but really it was kinda out of character for him. Squirrelflight and Ashfur could've been mates and everything would be fine.
@@doctahlynn
Wholeheartedly agree, they should have honestly just had Squirrelflight stay with Ashfur and not suddenly make Brambleclaw all "nice" and "sweet" as if to give an excuse as to why she should get back together with him despite all he put her through and considering all that he would do after the whole Ashfur thing went down. That way, it saves screwing over two characters just to keep one up on a pedestal.
I feel bad for Ashfur, but honestly, he went absolutely INSANE!! He tried to kill. Honestly, couldn't he just found another she-cat and had kits with her? Ashfur went besurk because Squirrelflight didn't love him. Don't you think that's a bit overreacting. Whoever fails to see that really needs to confont the authors or somethin'.
I totally agree.
Wings Of Lives Spoiler Alert for Omen of the Stars! Actually, there is a chance Ashfur is the father of Ivypool and Dovewing instead of Birchfall. At least that's what i think
Wings Of Lives I kind of see him as a male Yandere. People don't hate on /female/ yanderes, so why does a /male/ yandere get all the hate?
Right, because Warriors is English and not Japanese.
I forgot.
|:C
+Koma Similar to you and Hina ^-^
Kyouko Kirigiri ***** FiveNights1 Productions jason severs Luis Echevarria I don't believe that omen of the stars thing. I've read it, Ashfur and Birchfrost barely interacted with each other, and definitely didn't LOVE each other enough to have kits. Also, I'm not hating on Ashfur, he's sweet in a way, and I haven't read up that much on Mapleshade. :/
can we just take a minute and appreciate how much you improved from this to My Pride? °^°
9 year old me: Wow, Ashfur is so dramatic and edgy! Just get over her!
15 year old me: I now understand Ashfur... being heartbroken can sometimes literally drive you insane.
Not justifying any of Ashfur’s actions, just saying I can now understand his feelings and what caused him to snap. The pain of wanting someone you can’t have is just unbearable.
I realized it at 19 👌
It's so sad that Ashfur got killed by Hollyleaf... and all for nothing! she gave the secret away even after killing Ashfur so that he wouldn't! -.- If Squirrelflight had loved Ashfur then he probably would've been one of the Clan's greatest warriors in history!
+Silver Song It wasn't his right to tell though. Yes it was over reacting of her and I agree that she shouldn't have done that but maybe it was kinda needed? I mean otherwise there probably was no stopping him from revealing his secret. Besides, she wasn't thinking clearly anyway. I blame the trauma and shock she was in for killing him. Besides, He tried to fry her and her siblings, and being with in a clan where there's such a unbalanced justice system and how unpredictable things were in the clans, I can understand her killing him. I mean if those aren't justified reasons for killing him I don't know what it is.
I agree. If only Ashfur wasn't blind by love.. in this video, love is a bad word :(
Ashfur could have been a really great., deep, and relatable character, but no the Erins just had to screw it up (Sorry the spelling is terrible i know))
It's ok and yea..
You shouldn't have to rely on another to live perfectly, he is weak,unlike Thrushpelt!
You know it’s old when she’s yellow
. Jesus in ten years you’ve improved so much! Shading drawing and colours wise! Amazing
Ashfur needs a super edition in my opinion
More like an e-book
Nope
I don't like him but yes. I would like to look deeper into his character.
E-book. Not an entire super edition book. .-.
gone I AGREE
man i just love warriors
Squirrelflight says it as lightly as she can, willing you to forgive her, but what do you do? You try to kill everyone who was close to her, plus the CLAN LEADER. How could Firestar have forgotten that? He should have banished Ashfur from ThunderClan. Ashfur deserves to go to the Dark Forest more than a lot of other cats like Thistleclaw and Mapleshade. Thistleclaw has never even killed a cat before. Ashfur has attempted 4 murders and FAILED. He was revealed for his treachery, but what did everyone do? Of course they forgave "poor Ashfur" because "He has gone through so much in his life".
You don't understand his side of the story, now do you Douche.
littlejohnny2000 Yeah I do. What you are getting wrong is Squirrelflight's side of the story. Think before you act :|
Nightshadow Of RiverClan I do, I am currently re-reading the New Prophecy, and it seems to me she is using him to get Brambleclaw to understand her uneasiness in Hawkfrost. I can see Ashfur is falling more into her as they spend more time together.
littlejohnny2000 I can't deny what you said is true. However, it seemed Ashfur already knew Squirrelflight was not actually in love with him, as she avoided any acts of romance with him. When Squirrelflight clarified she wished to be with Brambleclaw, as I said before, he probably already knew. But of course, he makes a big scene about it, and tries to kill 90% of her family/friends.
Nightshadow Of RiverClan Well, all he wanted was for her to love him back..
But instead, she ends up betraying him, and using a knife to drain the love out of his heart.
When a wound in your heart is that deep, there's no stopping you from showing that person the unbearable emotional pain they caused you.
I love this AMV! I like how it's unique, especially because of the flashbacks that explained why it happened. Great job, girl! Love your style!
it’s already 2021 please😭😭
Why so much hate on Ashfur? I understand he tried killing "her kits" and some of the clan but he truly loved and trusted her, but she didn't return his love, and that must've been the worst feeling for him. Personally I think Ashfur deserved a chance with Squirrelflight, let alone a she cat better than her. I don't hate Squirrel, but I dislike her. The way she rejected Ashfur was pretty upsetting.
Hm. Hm.
Lol he is a just a brainless cat if he really loved her he would been happy if she was, like what thrusthpelt did.
but i find that notfair! why squerrelflight quit ashfur??
me if ima squerreflight i will say to brawbeclaw: NO NO NO AND NO i DUNT WANNA DATE YA I ALREADY HAVE A BF!!!!!! PLZ LET MEH ONELY DUDE
i hate brawbleclaw........... in reality i hate him.... my favorite is scourge after ash after squerrel after brawbleclaw
+yaya lps swag It wasn't brambleclaw's fault :| look are you like 6 or 7? Older Age makes it less they r bad becuz they said no to a kityy ;-;
2:43 I’m like DROP IT
Because of this video, I am completely obsessed with this song and it will always remind me of Warrior Cats. The nostalgia makes me cry every time I hear it.
What is the song used for the epilogue with Squirrelflight? There at 6:50
I love Ashfur. Star Clan bless the warrior who has gone through more hurt than a cat could feel in 9 lives.
If ashfur really cared for squirrel flight he would of been happy she found love in brambleclaw, this is why I hate him
Oh, this makes me so nostalgic. This was my first introduction to warrior cats and I WAS OBSSESED with this.
Dont worry Ashfur! I still love you!
I miss these videos
Let’s settle something.
He did not love Squirrelflight. Not one bit. He loved the IDEA of her. When you love someone, you want them to be happy, even if you are sad. If you think the proper response is to get angry, get help. You are a danger to society and yourself.
Remember, these cats are anthropomorphised. We HAVE to treat them like humans.
Ashfur may have been a decent cat before, but Squirrelflight’s rejection did not just suddenly turn him evil.
He was already weak in the head. Already a little loose. The glass was already about to shatter.
Ashfur was able to control himself before because he never had any interaction with Squirrelflight. Once he got a taste, he was convinced that he was entitled to her love.
He didn’t love her. He was possessive and passive-aggressive. That’s abuse. That’s abuse and there’s no other way to swing it. He is NOT a good cat.
I don’t care if you like Ashfur. Do NOT make excuses for him because you’re wrong and that’s that. He was decent before. Okay. But that doesn’t change the fact that he was an abusive asshole before he died. StarClan was wrong about him. He should have gone to the dark forest.
Also, you want to know why Thistleclaw went to the dark forest? Because he was training with them and didn’t feel bad about it. He wanted the kind of strength they provided him and it wasn’t because he wanted to be a good warrior.
Also, Bluestar did not chase him out of StarClan. That’s been proven false many times over.
But back to my original point.
Ashfur is not misunderstood. He’s an abusive, manipulative, angry asshole. He deserved everything that came to him except for StarClan.
well I mean I agree with you there but I think that he had some sort of cat bpd or somethin and shit. he shoulda talked to someone ngl that wouldve probably fixed everything
So yeah he sucked n shit but man I wish he had gotten better instead of having it be his downfall
How you’ve improved! 2020 anyone? My Pride?
Ashfur loved Squirrelflight, but she oved Brambleclaw. Ashfur tried to keep Squirrelflight away from danger, but that was not Squirrelflight's destiny. Her destiny was to be with Brambleclaw, and Ashfur shouldn't blame her, or StarClan, but just face the fact that he and Squirrelflight weren't ment to be.
Fuck Destiny.
It Killed Ashfur.
true...hmm....you have a point
littlejohnny2000 *salute*
littlejohnny2000 LOVE destiny
It killed Ashfur
I have 11 year old and this movie have 11 years old 😱😱😱
1. He's her uncle. Sandstorm's his half-sister or something. 2. They were never mates. She was barely aware that he liked her like that. 3. WHY DID HE GO INSANE THAT MUCH?! At least murder Brambleclaw, who STOLE Squirrelflight from you! Don't attack her father! AND WHY DID YOU GO THAT BAD IN THE FIRST PLACE?! Ugh. Ashflight was a sweet ship, but there's nothing we can do about it now. Squirrel X Bramble's endgame. Not that I particularly care......... I'm looking forward to Spark and Alder.
Lol I saw a drawing titled "Canon Ashfur meets Fanon Ashfur". It was funny!
Lol XD
Yes very much
WolfFrost TheMagnificent Ashfur was squirrelflights half neice but squirrelflight is
ashfur's half uncle cause sandstorm is ashfur's half brother and sandstorm is the mother of squirrelflight.but i hate when hollyleaf killed ashfur. I thought hollyleaf's was the happiest but a idiot named 'pumastarofdarkclan' said ashfur's death was happy i then got triggered and unsub to 'pumastarofdarkclan' and i knew her channle was really stuipd.
Kai Wynn they were mates in the new prophecy for a bit
Oh you like Warriors to? Yay! And you are making My Pride wich makes me love your channel even more! :D
:o U know bout warriors?
Since when was Squirrelflight *ever* with Ashfur?!
They were never together, people! Get over it
Ikr
Hello from the future, having to type “warrior cats” is getting less results than “warriors” people all love the fannon Spottedleaf, more than canon. Maps amvs and pmvs are at an all time high in production, quality and viewership. And everyone pokes fun at ashfur the neck beard nice guy while preferring to not make a scene about scourges collar
All is well and good
Except medicine cats still can’t have kits despite the numbers of mcs
Did you even read the books?
I WANT aA VIDEO OF STORMFUR ASHFUR AND BRAMBLECLAW FIGHTING OVER SQUUIRELFLIGHT
Squirrelflight:You see Ashfur, you're not my type.
A $hfUr: wOt du yuo m3anz sw33t1e? 1,m pArfEECtly n0rm4l!
BrambleClaw: m8 no sHe mien m8 she m1n3
Toms these days...
yay :D someone who LUVS ashfur! :3 i am not a big fan of squirrelflight, really, all she did was hurt ashfur. and i don't really like her attitude :T
***** The only Jerk here is you. You gotta understand that when people's hearts are broken, they can't see straight. They make mistakes, they do things that they don't mean.
When someone commits a crime, you automatically think that they're bad.
But doing something bad doesn't make you a criminal.
***** No?.. Explain what you mean.
***** Maybe that's just you.
***** End of story. But that doesn't mean he's a psychopath and Insane.
***** I agree. To be honest, I don't think Lionblaze would be the cat he is today without Ashfur.
this is almost as old as me-
Yuno Gasai:
Female Yandere, loved by pretty much everyone that's ever seen Future Diary.
Ashfur:
MALE Yandere, hated by pretty much everyone that's ever read Warriors.
Yuno Gasai:
Killed way more people than Ashfur, still loved.
Ashfur:
Attempted to kill 4, hated.
..What the fuck? Where's the logic in this?
There a whole different series!
+SwiftNorthenSnowfall OfTheCentury What, so because one's a Japanese anime and one's an English novel, Ashfur can't be considered a valid Yandere? Ashfur can't get any love at all? Your logic is flawed.
I love Ashur but he killed good people Yuno killed good but killer peoplez
+Jantz Washington *people
Ashfur is not a Yandere if he was then he will have tried to kill Brambleclaw.
dude??? my childhood is hurting so bad rn ommggg??? i'd watch this obsessively!!
I CANT BELIEVE THIS HAS ALMOST 800k VIEWS OMFG
Haha I just realised this video is as old as my little sister 😂
What's this song called and who is it by PLZ TELL ME
hurt
hurt by thousand foot krutch
melissa matthews THANK YOU SO MUCH
wolfeylover scheff shut up
Hi
thank god this is back i think about it at least once every 4 months
Yellowfang: His only fault was that he loved TOO much.
Me: O rly.
Now, from what I've read, like most of the series anyways, even with my foggy memory, seemed to me like Squirrelflight was just using him. Which ultimately crushed Ashfur. He isn't be no Thrushpelt by no means, but with the dark turn that went with each passing series so did the character. Now I wait for the comments saying "Duuuuuurp Assfur sawks!" But to end this, Ashfur is like a less tragic Scourge and less debate about collars.
Squrrilflight needed comfort so as Ashfur wanted to be freinds she got the comfort but suddenly Ashfur admits he likes her and even before this Squrrilflight says she does't like him. It was going to end badly either way.
Cloudy. Kinda. She used him to fill the void left by Brambleclaw. When it was filled up, she suddenly left him and went straight to Brambleclaw. You don't do that.
Gais, before I get spammed with notifications about a pointless debate, a better thing to think about, is why ThunderClan gets all the attention. (Ship everything so even if one thing fails, you got so many backups, it doesn't matter)
Chase Taylor I suppose so, but I mean, the whole plot takes place in Thunderclan. Soooo....
Ashfur is my hero his so cute
Someone who tried to murder 3-4 cats are really someone to look up to.
who does the main song :(
Thousand Foot Krutch :)
ok thank! :P
9 years and this is still hilariously iconic
WAY 2 GO, SQUIRREL! :D
*hollyleaf
Great animating! I love the song and animation, and how he song fits the situation perfectly. You've earned a sub!
0:40 Isn't that from Cow of the Wild? The Backround?
You can't help but feel bad for ashfur, he went through a lot earlier in life, seeing his friend die (swift paw) and the other being called lost face, his mother had been ripped apart by dogs, and his sister had moved on, maybe didn't care about him. Like he said, he met squirrel flight and though his life would be better, he wanted love so badly he went insane for it, watching the only person you have walk away from you is one of the painful things in life, and having to watch them cry and smile without you there is ten times harder. He had thorn claw, one of his only friends, and that was it. Ashfur might have been insane, but he was insane for the right reasons.
For a 2009 animation, this is well done and pretty awesome. Also, yes, I'm basically the only one not commenting a rant about Ashfur. :)
This really shows how much you have improved!
Keep up the great work!
Seen this video so many times, in fact this was what got me into warrior cats and the amazing band thousand foot krutch! Thank you!
When I watched this about 2 years ago or so I literally cried. I couldn't help it. Ashfur was my favortie and I was hoping that Squirrelflight and him would get together cuz I honestly think they would make adorable kits but NOOO. xD Love this video
Everyone that is hating on Ashfur needs to stop drooling over Squirrelflight and listen.
If your life was torn to shreds around you- your mother dies, you don't know your father, your friend gets more privileges than you because he's related to someone special, and the girl you love's crush is the son of the one who killed your mother in the first place and yet he still gets pity and also special treatment, how wouldn't you go insane when the girl you gave your heart and soul to let you down "gently", even when, this whole time, it's been her fault? She's been leading you on, making you think that it's so possible to fill that space in her heart, with the cuddles as you go to sleep, constant chatting, hunts, and the times she always invites you to talk to her? So you go for it. You tell her you love her, and you want to take this to the next level. Only to be turned down and watch her go with (that) guy, the guy that is the son of your mother's killer. The one you thought was your friend. The one you were growing to despise. And it hurt so much. That pain that's been looming over your heart since that tragic day is growing in a dark, dark cloud, and your falling into a black, bottomless hole, and nobody can stop it? The girl that you loved turned away from you when you needed her most. You needed someone to lean on, but nobody is there. Just air. And your thoughts.
Your ugly, ugly thoughts. The thoughts that lead into memories of blood.
All of you Ashfur "haters" who also like to refer to him as Assfur for whatever reason, never stop and think from Ashfur's point of view. Especially when he is given the task later on to prepare and take "care" of the girl you love and the man you hate's son, who looks so happy but doesn't know anything. This son you want yourself to hate, convince yourself to do so, but overtime it grows somewhat real and somewhat into love. And that, my friends, is when you broke. The last straw. It was like the world was against you, and you just wanted to fall on your knees and see what you did wrong, ask for forgiveness, die, not exist. Nobody loved you anymore. Everyone you loved left you.
That is what Ashfur feels like. Take a moment and put yourself into his body and life and know that, yes, he did some very wretched things such as trying to murder cats, but also realize he didn't murder them and he had a choice and he ran from it. Instead of continuing to spread the fire, thus killing Squirrelflight and Hollyleaf, Jayfeather, and Lionblaze, he ran away from it. Be somewhat thankful that your favorite character(s) did not die. And actually know that Ashfur was barely into that little "plan" to kill Firestar. All he did was trick and watch. He did not lay a claw on that Ginger's fur, so he did not commit any crime. So Squirrelflight should also be a little relieved and understanding that if Ashfur helped, then Firestar surely would be dead by now. Or at least, have lost a life. Bottom line is, Ashfur had a choice to do a lot of shitty things but being the considerate cat he was, didn't it. He took part in it in a way, yes, but at the same time, did not shed any blood in the process, did not have lives on his paws.
I think Erin Hunter was wrong to do the things she did to him, and instead of coming up with the idiotic plan of killing him off for foolish, careless reasons, especially because it was Hollyleaf that killed him and let out the secret in the first place, she could have did it these ways: Ashfur told the clans at the gathering, hence demoting Leafpool and embarrassing Squirrelflight, and found someone that he ended up loving, probably a random character and a life that did him justice.
2. He ended up not telling anyone about anything because Hollyleaf convinced him not to (Therefore when she tells everyone at the gathering, it makes much more sense) out of fear, and then Ashfur continued to lead a normal life with a possible lover and a family. Out of dept, Squirrelflight and Leafpool's kits don't say anything about Ashfur's attempted murder plans, and they all apologize to each other, but keep their separate ways.
Keep your spirit up buddy, people will probaly come bash it, but I'm here to help.
So so tragic like scourge and tigerstar or ( The better characters) Bluestar Crookedstar and poor lonely Firestar notice something here. Ashfur (Assfur is rude but sorta fitting) falls in group 1 not group 2
yourfavoriteanon I agree that he shouldn't have so much hate against him, but you also have to understand that Squirrelflight only ever saw him as a close friend. Whatever chemistry he felt with her was all in his head. She did NOT lead him on, especially not on purpose.
He made his own choices, and even if he didn't kill anyone it doesn't change the fact that he wanted to, that he would have had the situation been different. He was aiding and abetting Hawkfrost in his crime, even if he didn't have much to do with it.
He would have killed Squirrel's "kits" just to see her in pain. That's not what you do when you love someone, no matter how hurt you feel because they didn't love you the way you loved them. It's selfish, cruel and evil. The issue was between him, Squirrelflight, and perhaps Brambleclaw. Not three young cats who had no choice in who their parents were. Nor the father of the one he's angry with.
But I do agree with you, Hollyleaf shouldn't have killed him, he didn't deserve to die but he does deserve to be punished in some way. I say let him stay single for the rest of his life.
It's a justified punishment because after what he put Squirrel through, he doesn't really deserve to have anyone by his side. He needs to know the difference between love and obsession first. Perhaps he can find true love in another life.
Thanks for the comment! I actually thought it would turn out negatively (they usually do) but I have to say this made me see a bit differently. It's really nice to see someone in the fandom that won't post telling me how shitty Ashfur is and how his "fangirls" are corrupted.
yourfavoriteanon You're very welcome! I'm actually an Ashfur fan turned hater turned neutral party..soo I've been on all sides of this particular argument for about two years now. xD
Now that Ashfur is in StarClan, I think he needs to have a nice long chat with Thrushpelt (and a right scolding from his mother, because she would NOT approve of his behavior). I feel it would really help him.
At the end of it all, I feel that what Yellowfang told Jayfeather was the truth. Squirrelflight's and Ashfur's only real problems were that they loved too much.
Watched this a long time ago when I was younger I was innocent and never realized what my future would be
I'm older now and relate to ashfur in this
I had a girlfriend she then admitted she was seeing her other friend and loved him
Someone promised to help me get rid of her and ban her by getting her in trouble with a fake lie and I said okay and then they got banned instead and then my friends didn't trust me and took a while to trust me again others didn't trust me ever again.
I'm still trying to get over her but my pain hurts and the anger is burning..
That little bit at the end made me .. Great job as always, tribbleofdoom!
I remember when we used to sympathize with Ashfur, glad we don't do that anymore lol
poor Ashfur, first his dad, then mom, his home, and now Love!!!! Poor thing!
This was the first video I ever saw that got me into animating. And now I'm in college for animation. How time flies lol.
tribbleofdoom, Your just SO amazing. I especially LOVE you COTW series that you made. Your so amazing with drawing. I draw a little in real life. I can never understand how to do it on computer, But your amazing at it.
I remember watching this repeatedly in middle school. And obsessively reading all the books I could get my hands on..
I’ve watched this since I was 8 years old, 2009. I’m gonna cry ;; I still listen to both these songs thanks to this.
Jackson Day oh. I was like 3 then.
Starclan, yes! This is the best thing ever, and the music is great, btw!
HAPPY TENTH BIRTHDAY TO THIS VIDEO
forgot how awesome Tribble' was until I watched this again! great video!
Love the video!!! Great artwork xD uwu. Amazing plotline ....... Shed a tear or two TnT
Ashfur helped Hawkfrost with Firestar's trap?? What???... Well, sorry still on sixth Power of Three book here XD
Once again Tribble you rock! I want more from you :D
I just cant stop thinking about how he was when he was an apprentice and lost his mother and who the hell even was his father and he lost his friend at a young age and he was such a good warrior, one that would have continued to serve his clan. I know theres sooooooo much debate about him as a character but personally, i like him! In no way would I excuse what he did. WRONG WRONG WRONG> but if you ask me, Ashfur to me represents something like a mental illness in which a lot of people won't get- and everything seems so much worse. He fell in love. He really, really, fell in love. And squirrelflight; while not intending to probably; did play him and lead him on and how hurtful must that have been to Ashfur? Heartbreaking. Devastating. When he thought he'd actually found something he could have that would be amazing, and he poured his heart into her and gave her so much support etc, only to have it ripped from him. So he must think- she never loved him in the first place, yeah. And to be told that? Horrible!!! Of course you're going to be in turmoil; absolute devastation. The way i see his reaction is he was so hurt and he didn't know what else to do; because it just seemed like she didn't care she'd broken his heart or whatever and now they had these kits and he couldn't bear it cause HE wanted that life with her, a family to raise, his mate whom he loved. I'm glad he went to starclan. I wish him and squirrel ended up together, or at least he had another cat to love and have a family with. :(
Beautiful!! Really feeling the emotion here.
Yea! You are SOO right! Ashfur didn't deserve Squirrelflight especially when he did ALL that he could for her! She just tossed it down the drain and went for Brambleclaw! D:
I haven't listened to this in years and I still love it!
IT'S BACK YESSSSSSSSSSSSS THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
First time watching it all the way til the end and now I realize that it had that sad,cute scene at the end with Ashfur and Squirrelflight.
I love the art for this. 😊 Esspecially the shading.
iconic.
im looking at old warrior cat videos i used to watch, this is still good even now, even tho i like watched it back in 2014 xD
that formidable animation !!, man, I cried! :(
you got another inscribed! :)
'Ashfur is a kind, handsome cat who clearly thinks a lot of her. But the connection she has with Brambleclaw is very special because they went through so much together on the journey to sun-drown-place'
Squirrelflight loved Brambleclaw first