Back when dark ascension came out, my local card store offered a booster pack each as trade for any archangel's lights you brought in, so that they could send them back to wizards. I don't know if wizards themselves put out a recall for it, or if my LGS just thought it was particularly egregious, but either way, I think it's hilarious
I imagine the effect being similar to the level up player shouting at the top of his lungs that he/she wants to be a god(dess) and a real god just flicks their finger at them super quick and sends them flying into the side of a mountain.
@@alfredvonfleisch There are many cards that would like to have a word with me. But very few are worthy of such an honor. Lighthouse Chronologist is not one of them.
I have it in my Brudiclad list. If you just leave it on the board it's a good way to keep games fair, with a sac outlet it's a great way to just close out a game.
I genuinely try to fit Ugin's Nexus into my EDH decks. There's always those fucking braindead morons that vote time. I also run it in my Atog tribal deck, since it's a free extra turn.
I have Kargan dragonlord in my Gruul dragon deck. It's nice flavor and having something to sink mana into if I don't have anything else worth doing is kinda nice.
I personally want to know what the card they got rid of to replace with Archangel's Light is. If it was super busted, to the point they'd refuse to print it, I really want to know what it is more than some shitty 8 mana lifegain.
I think it just didn't actually do what it was trying to do, or didn't work within the rules of magic the way they thought it would. i.e. the other meaning of 'broken'
Archangel's Light is more than just shitty life gain... Never, ever underestimate the power of getting everything in your yard shuffled back into your library, especially in mono-white or white/x. Sometimes that can get you out of a bind pretty solidly. If you need access to more late-game reach, it gives you that, without needing a shuffle titan to get pitched.
So won't deny one its own descent into madness is terrible but combine it with assemble the legion and it's hilarious, you exile the tokens assemble makes each time as your opponents keep losing real things, plus they grow at the same rate, so if you drop assemble the turn before your netting a token each time
@@felixsonofscouty other than the fact that its a black card, whats worse about it? having them exile the permanents instead of sacrificing them is a lot more brutal.
Kind of considering Descent into Madness alongside Tombstone Stairwell in my Meren or Jarad decks. I know everyone will be dropping the Tombspawn tokens into it (if they can), but it still kind of feels like fun.
@@felixsonofscouty maybe because it’s a nice budget option, even if smokestacks isn’t too much, $.79 is better than $6 if you are lucky and that one is even in stock, if not, it’s a cool $11.
@@somejerk5662 The only mythic played in Dimir Rogues, the BEST deck in standard according to PVDDR and most other pro players, is Agadeem's Awakening.
There's a special brand of punctured joy that one can only really know when first seeing that mythic symbol, and immediately understanding the $0.24 card it's stuck to... Excitement going sour as it deflates is a heavy feeling to find in a booster pack.
One of my favorite decks was a rakdos control deck that won way more games than it had any right to. It used Bazaar Trader to give awful cards such as hellcarver demon (or to make Treason cards last more than one turn) to my opponent before mindslavering them. (Consuming vapors followup) I made it as a joke, but the deck ended up really taking people off guard.
@@elbe0072 slap an Ensoul Artifact onto your mindslaver, use Bazaar Trader to give your opponent your mindslaver. Activate a separate mindslaver to take your opponents turn, to then activate their mindslaver to in turn grant control of your next turn. Realize that it is a terrible idea, and instead build a deck using Chaos Confetti, Mycosynth Lattice, Mindslaver, March of the Machines, and Mirrorweave... because you are a terrible human being.
@@elbe0072 on a serious note, you are completely correct... the mana requirement for that finisher are crippling. It shouldn't have been a decent deck, but it surprised me. Almost as much as Immolating Souleater was for an opponent who didn't bother blocking it, to suddenly have me pay 18 life... then fling for the win.
Descent into Madness was niche, but IIRC, it did come in a block where Black had a sorcery to create 13 Zombie tokens, and an enchantment that created zombie tokens on each of your upkeeps equal to the number of Zombies you controlled. So you could use either of those to fuel Descent into Madness for a long time, resulting in your opponent losing their board and hand while you are losing mostly if not completely Zombie tokens. I always felt like Hellcarver Demon was really built for a deck loaded up on Sorceries and Instants, probably UBR-colored. But I can't imagine that working out well. It's like a twisted one-sided Warp World, but on the wrong side.
Descent into madness is one of my favourite cards of all time and I have a deck where it's even the "hidden commander", my Alela deck. It creates loads of tokens to exile to Descent, while simultaneously proliferating more counters onto Descent, strangling my opponents to death. It also has smokestack :)
Wizards: “We are scared of releasing a card so strong, so we will replace it with this” Also Wizards: “Hey, we should print Oko, Cauldron Familiar, Escape to the Wilds, Fires of Invention, Lucky Clover, and Once Upon a Time all in the same set. Oh, and let’s also just throw in The Great Henge and Embercleave for good measure”
Don't forget that the set also had Chulane, Teller of Tales; Kenrith, the Returned King; Korvold, Fae-Cursed King; All That Glitters; Brazen Borrower; Syr Konrad, the Grim; Bonecrusher Giant; Questing Beast; Garruk, Cursed Huntsman; Mystic Sanctuary; and Midnight Clock 😂.
Arch angles light should have also had a fog effect, remove poison counters, and included exiled cards as cards put back into your library for it to be worth it.
@@magwaaf good on him. I do hate the idea of that build around but that and aetherflux would be so flavorful. Just let me charge my death ray with god's glory.
I have a level up deck using Atraxa as the commander. I have no +1/+1 counters, no poison counters and no planeswalkers. Just level up and silly charge counter type stuff. I back up the low power creatures with high power instant and sorceries to balance it out. Holds it's own in out fun casual games. Helps that Atraxa by herself is bonkers.
Hellcarver Demon actually sees play now because of Jon Irenicus, Shattered One. It sees play in some Beamtown Bullies lists. But it is actually broken in the Irenicus deck because it gets goaded, can't be sacrificed, and doesn't get exiled. But it's hilarious to see your opponent with a massive board state, take control of it, and have to swing. Bye-bye permanents and hand! Lol
Molten-Tail Masticore at number 2? I didn't think it was that bad, but I'll agree it's effects are a bit underwhelming, especially for Commander, but are still ok. At least you get to choose what you discard, and that stat-line of 4 mana of any color for a 4/4 with a relatively inexpensive regeneration cost is pretty good, but that's my opinion. I sure liked pulling it in a Scars draft during those years. Wouldn't beat a Wurmcoil Engine of a Batterskull just to name a few of the better cards, but it was at least a decent win condition for the limited format.
I'm not even going to try to convince anyone that Descent Into Madness is a good card... That said, it's still part of my favorite jank combo of all time: Assemble the Legion + Descent Into Madness, letting the Assemble the Legion trigger resolve first each upkeep so I can exile those lemming Soldiers to Descent Into Madness. It sure ain't good, but it's hilarious when the table can't stop it and they truly... descend into madness.
@@mattd3978 Totally recommend trying it out with Ghen, Arcanum Weaver from Commander Legends since you're already in those colors, both Assemble the Legion and Descent Into Madness are enchantments which Ghen synergies with, and because if you can't maintain both of them at the same time you can sac Descent Into Madness to Ghen so you don't screw yourself over.
I remember pulling a bunch of Archangels Light back in the day and just thinking to myself "Why the hell is this a mythic rare?". Good to know other people thought the same.
Descent into Madness's awfulness shows just how important the option to put the counter on Smokestack is. It's almost the exact same card, but must escalate each turn. Exiling is probably worse than sacrificing, but since that's two sided it's not as bad of a change. But the ability to keep Smokestack going forever is what makes it so good, which Descent into Madness can't do nearly as easily.
I'd still say Lich's Mirror deserves a spot on this list. I even ripped a foil of it in half when I read it because I knew I could do NOTHING with it but cry and die a second time.
That card is funny for group games. Someone will *need* to deal with it or they can just ramp up and do something stupid like Hurricane, and then they win.
You're either lying or really stupid, first, I have a large collection and still wouldn't rip even a token or a common card, because even these could have a purpose in somebody's hand Secondly, Lich's mirror isn't useless, especially in limited and EDH, and a very funny and unique card when played with artifact recursion Conclusion : I think for your own sake that you in fact lied and never ripped a foil mythic in half, and if it happens to be the case, then I have no respect for you and you shouldn't play MTG at all
lmao Kargan Dragonlord is a fantastic levelup card. Yes, it's all Red to level it up, but what makes it good is that it's a mana sink. You get it down early, and pump it up over the next 3-4 turns with the mana you held up for kill spells that ended up not being used. Now. Is it good in a vacuum? No. Is it even particularly good in general? Not especially. But it's flavorful and useful, which puts it ahead of 50% of Mythic cards and shouldn't earn it a spot on this list.
Honestly happy to see Mind's Dilation (Eldritch Moon) of this list, first thing that came to mind when you did the intro, while not OP definitely not worthy of a "worst" classification, that card can wrap entire EDH pods around it, don't think it's ever coming out if my Thraximundar deck.
Descent into Madness seems like it would be good in a token deck; you can build the deck around getting the 'right board state' for Descent to favor you by having a ton of junk to exile, while your opponents don't. You could combine that with symmetrical sac effects (which also favor the same deck type) so that Descent will be eating their lands and hands ASAP.
When Archangel's Light came out, I was like, "Check out this trash." A couple of people then told me that it was actually a decent card because you can gain a ton of life. I guess we now know which of us was right. :P
Transcendent master would have worked as a design if it could be leveled up as an instant. This way, you put spare mana into it at the end of opponents turn and level him up in response to damage. It also could have worked if the training enchantment was able to reduce level up costs below 1.
'Descent into Madness' is a jankier, worse Smokestack, but Smokestack is so good that the bad version is still playable. Had one in a Hapatra EDH deck, it always became a 'must destroy' for my enemies as I could just exile tokens or even cards that I'd draw sacking tokens to Skullclamp. And "Hellcarver Demon" has a janky but fun combo that PleasantKenobi played in legacy, where you reanimate it and hit with it in a deck full of extra attack cards, effectively winning on a turn 2. If it's playable-ish in such a high power format, it's hardly deserving of being in a 'worst mythic ever' list, but that's my opinion.
Wizards defineitly has a different philosophy now, as compared to the story of Archangel's Light lol. They'd lean to print a busted card over a trash card nowadays if they were in the same set of circumstances... out of fear they haven't met their power creep quota lol. Then, they'd just slap a ban on it if it was too out-of-hand 🤷🏻♂️
Imho, this problem comes from WotC no longer having seperate teams for designing and developing cards. Their (relatively) new "play design" team - who's cards started to surface first with Throne of Eldraine - is both design and developement in one and I'm pretty sure that this causes a ton of powercreep problems. You just don't have a seperate set of eyes evaluating and rebalancing the cards and who really wants to tell somebody on their own team that their baby is ugly (aka busted) ?
@@Nr4747 i think it has more to do with the fact that wotc is a company which is constantly seeking higher and higher profits and will gradually go to greater lengths to get those profits. i like your theory better though its definitely more endearing
@@alaraplatt8104 It could be both, really. And Hasbro has been the parent company of WotC and extremely greedy for decades - so that's not as new as the design philosophy since Throne of Eldraine. Although it could have started affecting designs more recently, of course.
The thing with Kargan Dragonlord and Transcendent Master is that you can use proliferate effects to give them more level up counters as well as pay mana for the level up. Also I have used Dragonlord many times in a Red deck wins type deck and it has won me the game several times. It's nice when the deck is running out of steam(I have a friend that likes his stalling decks) and so I can dump my mana into it and get a big creature that wrecks face if no one has an answer for it.
Imo Nizzahon was unnecessarily harsh towards the Level Up Mythics. It might cost you 9 mana total to get the Dragonlord to being an 8/8, but you get to do it over multiple turns, and you don't have to spend cards in your hand to do it
Can you make a top 10 worst / top ten best magic sets. Not sure what data you could use on this but take into account how many cards in the set did well in high-level events, the EV of the set, how fun the set was to draft/play sealed, and overall how people liked it.
@@jouysoleycomelles5229 (waste not) seems like a nice combo with this. Mill a bunch hope to hit at least a few creatures per go and set up with the descent.
As someone who started playing MTG (Online) with Alara block, and stuck with it for a few years, it is surprising for me to see how many cards on this list are from that timeframe. Yeah, Arcangel's Light was an obvious #1, but 5 of the rest come from that timeframe as well, and a few of those (Molten-Tail Masticore, Hellcarver Demon, and Transcendant Master) were absolutely dominant cards in drafts, with Transcendant Master also seeing some pretty heavy play as a win condition in Standard UW Control decks I played against.
I don't think any of these were rrmotely close to dominant in drafts, and transcendent master might have been played by some, but it never appeared in any deck at a premiere event. I can agree that some of them are certainly fine to good in Limited, but none were dominant.
I found Erebos's Titan played pretty well in a deck that could keep the field fairly clear, and had ways to reanimate an opponent's creature. The fact that the card allows for both blanking of removal of 2 types (targeted destroy effects, which are reasonably common, and burn) if they have no board state is actually a substantial upside vs some decks. I found it's a decent option for Pox if you don't want to run Rotting Regisaur, or if you actually think the indestructibility is good enough to warrant inclusion (or that the recursion is worth it, which it really can be if you can keep the field clear, because it lacks trample). Not saying it's a top tier card, just that it's better than it looks.
Those mythics with Level-Up would be a lot better if you could level up at instant speed, which would allow you to pump your extra mana into them at the end of your opponent's turn. That would make the cards well worth the extreme cost to hit their highest level as you can use mana you weren't going to use anyways, and make your opponent feel less bad about your instants because at least it buys them time before you leveler becomes a larger threat
Descent into madness isnt nearly as bad as you think. In a deck, with alot of ways to generate alot of cheap tokens it shines. If your board is removed, you can always exile descend to madness itself. Nath of the gilth-leaf is a perfect example, where this card shines!
I'm sad to see Rowdy Crew in this list. It's probably my favorite card from Ixilan block (not that that's saying much.) It's at the very least a weird two-for-one, and it can also enable graveyard synergies (though it doesn't do that very well.) Plus, the random draw and discard is exciting and fun to do. If I was running a red EDH deck with graveyard synergies, I would probably throw in Rowdy Crew.
I have a "Bad stuff" cube I made in paper. The only 2 mythics I have in it are Progenitus and Maze's end. The cube has things like collect'em all cards, a few assist cards from battlebond like Huddle up and quite a few cards from the "worst card ever series" by The Manasource. The cube has a lot of themes like bad costed vannilas,1/1s with trample,coin flips,and meme inteactions like chillerpillar and cacoon. Unquenchable thirst and quench. As well as "Bomb" legends like Grun the lonely king,Fblthp, and Yargle.
Hellcarver was amazing in the original Zendikar set. It combo'd extremely well with Warp World and with heavy mana ramp, when it was still in Standard. x4 Hellcarver x4 Warp World x4 Bogardan Hellkite x2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn Won a couple local tournaments with the deck.
manipulate top to get barren glory on top, have an animate dead spell on hellcarver demon, profit. Could be a fun wincon in EDH. Doomsday + Hellcarver demon, could also be a fun alternative wincon in an already doomsday focused EDH deck. Get balancing act and Tergrid, god of fright on top, attack, have fun watching enemies having barely any board state while you suddenly have a huge one, this is for EDH too.
I play Erebos's Titan in my budget mono black devotion deck as a one-off, it is fairly efficient, but I use him only as a replacement for Phyrexian Obliterator.
I play the Dragonlord in my Ur-Dragon deck. He's a nice lightning rod creature since either the opponents answer it, wasting resources, and allow an opening for my scarier monsters, or let it get pumped while preparing. Mana is never an issue in that deck, and I often have so much floating around by turn 5 that getting it to be scary is quite easy.
I have it in my Gruul dragon deck. Honestly I think it's nice flavor to have that in there, but gameplay wise most decks with green shouldn't have any issue throwing an extra mana or two at it a turn. Like you said, it either gets removed or pretty quickly starts dishing out some damage along with whatever else you've played.
I built a deck around using hellcarver demon back when it was in standard. I had two hellcarver demons and four clone shells and a couple summoning traps. The whole point was to get Emrakul out for free! When it worked, it worked!
Erebos’s Titan was actually pretty cool at the time because Languish was printed in the same set. So unless you were up against Tasigur/Siege Rhino/Silumgar, you could get the Titan’s indestructible ability active really easily
I tried really hard to make Descent into Madness work in Standard. It didn't really, but it was still pretty fun and I think it's a super flavorful card.
Transcendant Master shows up in 39 Atraxa Decks, where you don't really need to put that much mana into it. You just Proliferate its counters. It does a fine enough job as far as I've seen being a Planeswalker guard dog.
Descent into Madness is more or less a 'fixed' Smokestack, and works with similar strategies. (pump out a lot of tokens to exile, watch the opponent's board vanish.) It's Johnny-tastic, to be sure, but *worst* is stretching it, IMO.
Wold of devils breach i uave to say would be badass in Madness as Conspiracy Theorist is a heavily played card in that deck format and it is both less powerful and exiles the card which limits the situations for its use as the card may be gone for good.
I dont think Descent into Madness is that bad. It's basically just a worse Smokestack ... but any deck that really wants Smokestack should probably be running Descent as well.
I think it would see sideboard use at 2 or even 3. Consider how many mill decks are in format right now. A lot of times Rogues for example beats other aggro decks by mill pressure. So a lot of white aggro decks would like to have a couple of copies for game two, because it totally tranform the game if you could push it through the counters. In fact, it would be so meta that rogues would have to slow play to avoid it. I'm you are playing rogue and turn six or seven, white plays a card that puts the 30+ cards you've mill back in their library, and gains 60 life. Suddenly all your race conditions are heavily against you, your spell effects are turned off because they no longer have 8 in the graveyard, and you know that you are facing the same reset in your future.
I really like the idea of Erebos´s Titan in Marchesa Steal EDH decks. I can trigger it with her by flinging an enemies creature and getting it back with Marchesa.
Fun Fact: I won the prerelease ROE Event thanks to Hellcarver Demon. I hit the enemy, and revealed "pelakka Wurm" and "Kozilek". Next time I revealed "It that Betrays". After that it was GG. :D I had that kind of finish in two Games. I thought "It isn't that bad"... Well, that evaluation went downhill. :D
Soul of Ravnica does have some reasonable utility in edh, as birthing pod decks can tutor it up after generating infinite mana with perigrine drake in order to win the game on the spot, though that is pretty fringe for a mythic.
Indestructible when least needed, and comes back from the graveyard, but only when the stars line up just right if it's Tuesday. However he is devoted, and mono B 5/5 for 4.
Prerelease kit 1: 2x Halvors and an Eradicator Valkyrie Prerelease kit 2: Orvar Prerelease kit 3: 2x Showcase Valkis and a borderless Alrund’s Epiphany AND a foil In Search of Greatness Should I quite while I’m ahead?
As soon as i saw Rowdy crew in a booster i opened, my first reaction was that it was not a good mythic. I have a binder with mostly mythics and rares and i dont want it near that. Hahaha
I think Axis of Mortality deserves to be on this list... It's a giant, useless enchantment, and after getting it for my first 3 straight mythics on arena, I quit playing arena. Yes, that might taint my vision of it, but I still can't see where it would be terribly useful in all but VERY small narrow niche situations in EDH. Love the channel nizzahon!
Lol I have archangels light in one of my decks and I just use it to make sure I don’t deck out. I don’t have a mana problem for casting it cause I also have green in my deck. I think it’s okay for late game affects or if you’re going up against a mill deck. You have 99 cards in your library if 50 of those get reshuffled into your library that’s100 life gain and depending on what cards you have on board may even win you the game.
I'm glad to see Mind's Dilation is off this list. Perfect card for my steal stuff deck, which balances the feel-bads of stealing by having an element of randomness to it.
So here's some edh deck styles where those cards are okay: 10 : for any deck trying to get infinite mana it's another staff of domination 9 : wrath tribal ? giant tribal ? okay I'm stumped with this one 8 : well you said it cleric tribal, also it's a great "leftover" mana sink 7 : same as 8 just slightly worse, funny those 2 don't synergize with Zirda while lower rarities one does (Hedron field purist is a must in Zirda) 6 : Well there is 12 madness B/R cards with CMC 5+ so yep good with Falkenrath 5 : With the new pirates in CMRlegend it's hard to justify especially if you also play U, still it's okayish if topdecked in mono-R 4 : Tokens Decks love this Prosh, Thalisse etc... 3 : If you can set up the top of your deck with CMC 7+... DOOMSDAY (evil laugh), I mean the card Doomsday 2 : Ok that's pure unadulterated Jank of Olde, Dredge with Zirda companion ? Memelord ? 1 : Lathiel love this, also a "security" in self mill deck 0 : Also all those cards are CHEAP (づ◔ ͜ʖ◔)づ
Molten-tail masticore was my first mythic. I had recently rejoined magic after having originally started and then leaving in Kamigawa. To have this welcome me back was such a slap in the face that I once again quit Magic. The only thing that brought me back was the commander 2017 decks (I am a sucker for dragons). I dont buy packs though, because of how hit or miss the rares, and especially the mythics are. Wizards should be a lot more careful with the power of their mythics. Opening a bad one just leaves such a bad taste in people's mouths.
How much life per card would Archangel's Light have to gain to be broken at it's current mana cost? I think at 5 life per it could be pretty oppressive.
I actually made Molten-tail work pretty damn well before. I played self mill with training grounds. Unless they can remove it right away its instant death on your next upkeep
Despite being the top 10 worst mythics, I'll be more than happy to Pack 1 Pick 1 at least the top 6-10 cards on this list. It just goes to show that Mythics are still inherently much more powerful.
Back when dark ascension came out, my local card store offered a booster pack each as trade for any archangel's lights you brought in, so that they could send them back to wizards. I don't know if wizards themselves put out a recall for it, or if my LGS just thought it was particularly egregious, but either way, I think it's hilarious
that is hilarious
God tier card against a mill deck. Completely useless in every other situation lol
Trying to imagine playing level up when bounce spells for 1 mana exist
I imagine the effect being similar to the level up player shouting at the top of his lungs that he/she wants to be a god(dess) and a real god just flicks their finger at them super quick and sends them flying into the side of a mountain.
Lighthouse Chronologist would like a word with you.
@@alfredvonfleisch There are many cards that would like to have a word with me. But very few are worthy of such an honor. Lighthouse Chronologist is not one of them.
This is why Hexdrinker from Modern Horizons is like the only good level up creature. It has built in protection from bounce spells.
@@a.velderrain8849 Love this Card!
The last time he did a video on this topic, I took it as a challenge to put Ugin's Nexus into my Breya EDH.
I have it in my Brudiclad list. If you just leave it on the board it's a good way to keep games fair, with a sac outlet it's a great way to just close out a game.
I genuinely try to fit Ugin's Nexus into my EDH decks. There's always those fucking braindead morons that vote time. I also run it in my Atog tribal deck, since it's a free extra turn.
@@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor I for one love those brain-dead morons who vote for Time since I'm the one who usually casts Expropriate 🤣
I had someone unironically play Ugin's Nexus. A complete stranger happened to be running it. I was running Edric Extra Turns, it was a sad day
It's actually a pretty solid card in the right deck. Like korvold
As an EDH player I can see myself using a couple of these when going budget.
Masticate can be handy for reanimator style decks on a budget. Probably not the best but it could certainly help with getting rid of creatures
Some bad mythical are good in edh
you ain't going budget, mate. you going bald.
@@gordonlekfors2708 🤣
I have Kargan dragonlord in my Gruul dragon deck. It's nice flavor and having something to sink mana into if I don't have anything else worth doing is kinda nice.
I personally want to know what the card they got rid of to replace with Archangel's Light is. If it was super busted, to the point they'd refuse to print it, I really want to know what it is more than some shitty 8 mana lifegain.
Oko
I think it just didn't actually do what it was trying to do, or didn't work within the rules of magic the way they thought it would. i.e. the other meaning of 'broken'
Archangel's Light is more than just shitty life gain... Never, ever underestimate the power of getting everything in your yard shuffled back into your library, especially in mono-white or white/x. Sometimes that can get you out of a bind pretty solidly. If you need access to more late-game reach, it gives you that, without needing a shuffle titan to get pitched.
@@andrewamann2821 Shuffling your grave into your deck is like a 3 mana effect that cantrips, it really isn’t good
@@andrewamann2821 So do the OG Eldrazi but they do things and you can run them in every colour.
"If you want to use any of the cards on the list as costers." I can't after you burned them to a crisp like that.
Great list.
“This card doesn’t deserve a spot in my deck, but it would make an excellent coaster for my drink!”
I laugh at you. I ate an Ugin's Nexus after a draft, on a dare.
I wouldn't recommend it.
Not gonna lie. I do want to get a playmat with descent into madness on it
.....I am not pleased
Boom roasted
🤣🤣🤣
u sukkk
You'll always be cool in concept.
So won't deny one its own descent into madness is terrible but combine it with assemble the legion and it's hilarious, you exile the tokens assemble makes each time as your opponents keep losing real things, plus they grow at the same rate, so if you drop assemble the turn before your netting a token each time
it is still better to just play smokestacks even with that combo
@@felixsonofscouty other than the fact that its a black card, whats worse about it? having them exile the permanents instead of sacrificing them is a lot more brutal.
@@loghan9565 it is more expensive, and you can't control the rate at which the effect grows.
Kind of considering Descent into Madness alongside Tombstone Stairwell in my Meren or Jarad decks.
I know everyone will be dropping the Tombspawn tokens into it (if they can), but it still kind of feels like fun.
@@felixsonofscouty maybe because it’s a nice budget option, even if smokestacks isn’t too much, $.79 is better than $6 if you are lucky and that one is even in stock, if not, it’s a cool $11.
WOTC 2012: Don't print a mythic that is busted, it will ruin formats
WOTC 2020: Money printer goes brrrrrrrrr
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Gotta get players used to the idea of mythic rares before you make them the only relevant cards.
@@somejerk5662 The only mythic played in Dimir Rogues, the BEST deck in standard according to PVDDR and most other pro players, is Agadeem's Awakening.
WOTC 2012: Infect was one of the more hated mechanics and we probably won't do it again
WOTC 2020: hehe double poison counterz...
Uro... oko.... tefari.... ugin...
Also known as "Cards you never want to see when you open a pack"
There's a special brand of punctured joy that one can only really know when first seeing that mythic symbol, and immediately understanding the $0.24 card it's stuck to... Excitement going sour as it deflates is a heavy feeling to find in a booster pack.
I remember having Hellcarver demon as a kid . Man was i disappointed when i learned to read.
One of my favorite decks was a rakdos control deck that won way more games than it had any right to. It used Bazaar Trader to give awful cards such as hellcarver demon (or to make Treason cards last more than one turn) to my opponent before mindslavering them. (Consuming vapors followup) I made it as a joke, but the deck ended up really taking people off guard.
@@Omnimalevolent1 Sounds like a really big set up . What about mind slavering yourself for the extra swag points ?
@@elbe0072 slap an Ensoul Artifact onto your mindslaver, use Bazaar Trader to give your opponent your mindslaver. Activate a separate mindslaver to take your opponents turn, to then activate their mindslaver to in turn grant control of your next turn. Realize that it is a terrible idea, and instead build a deck using Chaos Confetti, Mycosynth Lattice, Mindslaver, March of the Machines, and Mirrorweave... because you are a terrible human being.
@@elbe0072 on a serious note, you are completely correct... the mana requirement for that finisher are crippling. It shouldn't have been a decent deck, but it surprised me. Almost as much as Immolating Souleater was for an opponent who didn't bother blocking it, to suddenly have me pay 18 life... then fling for the win.
Descent into Madness was niche, but IIRC, it did come in a block where Black had a sorcery to create 13 Zombie tokens, and an enchantment that created zombie tokens on each of your upkeeps equal to the number of Zombies you controlled. So you could use either of those to fuel Descent into Madness for a long time, resulting in your opponent losing their board and hand while you are losing mostly if not completely Zombie tokens.
I always felt like Hellcarver Demon was really built for a deck loaded up on Sorceries and Instants, probably UBR-colored. But I can't imagine that working out well. It's like a twisted one-sided Warp World, but on the wrong side.
Descent into madness is one of my favourite cards of all time and I have a deck where it's even the "hidden commander", my Alela deck. It creates loads of tokens to exile to Descent, while simultaneously proliferating more counters onto Descent, strangling my opponents to death. It also has smokestack :)
8:41, Hellcarver Demon is SO bad that I have seen decks gift it to their opponents and goad it into attacking!
Lmao at the end “if you want to own any of these cards to use as coasters…”🤣
Pulled a foil Lich Mirror as my first ever foil mythic. The absolute sheer disappointment I felt at my first being such a dud...
Pulled one as my first mythic ever, IIRC. Second was Elspeth, though.
I would have traded big for that. Mostly because I was into fun, janky Channel/Fireball decks at the time.
what do u mean it makes it so that u can never lose lol
Mine was Iona, Shield of Emeria
Mine was wrenn and six
Transcendent master has awesome art and one of the coolest names in all of magic. The fact that he's awful is insulting
Wizards: “We are scared of releasing a card so strong, so we will replace it with this”
Also Wizards: “Hey, we should print Oko, Cauldron Familiar, Escape to the Wilds, Fires of Invention, Lucky Clover, and Once Upon a Time all in the same set. Oh, and let’s also just throw in The Great Henge and Embercleave for good measure”
Tbh; this is basically a before and after "F.I.R.E" design
Don't forget that the set also had Chulane, Teller of Tales; Kenrith, the Returned King; Korvold, Fae-Cursed King; All That Glitters; Brazen Borrower; Syr Konrad, the Grim; Bonecrusher Giant; Questing Beast; Garruk, Cursed Huntsman; Mystic Sanctuary; and Midnight Clock 😂.
Arch angles light should have also had a fog effect, remove poison counters, and included exiled cards as cards put back into your library for it to be worth it.
I saw a guy mill himself for 60 cards and cast this in edh
@@magwaaf good on him. I do hate the idea of that build around but that and aetherflux would be so flavorful. Just let me charge my death ray with god's glory.
If there was a good commander for level up I would play Transcendent Master in that deck, because I love its art.
I have a level up deck using Atraxa as the commander. I have no +1/+1 counters, no poison counters and no planeswalkers. Just level up and silly charge counter type stuff. I back up the low power creatures with high power instant and sorceries to balance it out. Holds it's own in out fun casual games. Helps that Atraxa by herself is bonkers.
yah he's lit af
Zirda, the Dawnwaker.
It makes Transcendent Master level up for free.
@@Oimfiel It unfortunately does not. Zirda can't reduce a cost to less than 1.
@@Oimfiel No it doesn't. Zirda doesn't discount to zero.
Hellcarver Demon actually sees play now because of Jon Irenicus, Shattered One. It sees play in some Beamtown Bullies lists. But it is actually broken in the Irenicus deck because it gets goaded, can't be sacrificed, and doesn't get exiled. But it's hilarious to see your opponent with a massive board state, take control of it, and have to swing. Bye-bye permanents and hand! Lol
Molten-Tail Masticore at number 2? I didn't think it was that bad, but I'll agree it's effects are a bit underwhelming, especially for Commander, but are still ok. At least you get to choose what you discard, and that stat-line of 4 mana of any color for a 4/4 with a relatively inexpensive regeneration cost is pretty good, but that's my opinion.
I sure liked pulling it in a Scars draft during those years. Wouldn't beat a Wurmcoil Engine of a Batterskull just to name a few of the better cards, but it was at least a decent win condition for the limited format.
I'm not even going to try to convince anyone that Descent Into Madness is a good card...
That said, it's still part of my favorite jank combo of all time: Assemble the Legion + Descent Into Madness, letting the Assemble the Legion trigger resolve first each upkeep so I can exile those lemming Soldiers to Descent Into Madness.
It sure ain't good, but it's hilarious when the table can't stop it and they truly... descend into madness.
That's deliciously evil. I'd definitely try it
@@mattd3978 Totally recommend trying it out with Ghen, Arcanum Weaver from Commander Legends since you're already in those colors, both Assemble the Legion and Descent Into Madness are enchantments which Ghen synergies with, and because if you can't maintain both of them at the same time you can sac Descent Into Madness to Ghen so you don't screw yourself over.
I love how you post the video like right at 12:00. I watch them every Wednesday and Friday morning. They are a great start to my mornings.
I remember pulling a bunch of Archangels Light back in the day and just thinking to myself "Why the hell is this a mythic rare?". Good to know other people thought the same.
I use good old Erebos’s titans in a budget mono-black devotion deck in modern
That doesn't sound like a fast enough modern deck...
Descent into Madness's awfulness shows just how important the option to put the counter on Smokestack is. It's almost the exact same card, but must escalate each turn. Exiling is probably worse than sacrificing, but since that's two sided it's not as bad of a change. But the ability to keep Smokestack going forever is what makes it so good, which Descent into Madness can't do nearly as easily.
Smokestack is easily abused. The 'Stax' deck archetype is named after it.
I think that both level up cards are really cool in a casual cube or decks, they are so cool
Honestly I can see myself using the hell carver in my poisoned gift deck. You give him to the dude who wins, you goad him, boom. He’s nuked
And then you use your Homeward Path just to seal the deal.
I used to use him with a reanimate deck
He’s pretty OP in reality...
I love seeing a content creator learning from their past work and improving
Archangel's Light was almost a reflexive response when reading the title of this video.
I'd still say Lich's Mirror deserves a spot on this list. I even ripped a foil of it in half when I read it because I knew I could do NOTHING with it but cry and die a second time.
That card is funny for group games. Someone will *need* to deal with it or they can just ramp up and do something stupid like Hurricane, and then they win.
You're either lying or really stupid, first, I have a large collection and still wouldn't rip even a token or a common card, because even these could have a purpose in somebody's hand
Secondly, Lich's mirror isn't useless, especially in limited and EDH, and a very funny and unique card when played with artifact recursion
Conclusion : I think for your own sake that you in fact lied and never ripped a foil mythic in half, and if it happens to be the case, then I have no respect for you and you shouldn't play MTG at all
I find it funny that hellcarver demon shot up in price and pretty much is off of this list thanks to Jon coming out.
lmao Kargan Dragonlord is a fantastic levelup card. Yes, it's all Red to level it up, but what makes it good is that it's a mana sink. You get it down early, and pump it up over the next 3-4 turns with the mana you held up for kill spells that ended up not being used.
Now. Is it good in a vacuum? No. Is it even particularly good in general? Not especially. But it's flavorful and useful, which puts it ahead of 50% of Mythic cards and shouldn't earn it a spot on this list.
Honestly happy to see
Mind's Dilation (Eldritch Moon) of this list, first thing that came to mind when you did the intro, while not OP definitely not worthy of a "worst" classification, that card can wrap entire EDH pods around it, don't think it's ever coming out if my Thraximundar deck.
Descent into Madness seems like it would be good in a token deck; you can build the deck around getting the 'right board state' for Descent to favor you by having a ton of junk to exile, while your opponents don't. You could combine that with symmetrical sac effects (which also favor the same deck type) so that Descent will be eating their lands and hands ASAP.
When Archangel's Light came out, I was like, "Check out this trash." A couple of people then told me that it was actually a decent card because you can gain a ton of life. I guess we now know which of us was right. :P
Transcendent master would have worked as a design if it could be leveled up as an instant. This way, you put spare mana into it at the end of opponents turn and level him up in response to damage. It also could have worked if the training enchantment was able to reduce level up costs below 1.
Cool! Good on you for revisiting some stuff and improving your craft!
Kargan dragonlord actually made it in constructed I'm surprised.
I thought the same thing, but RDW was pretty bad at the time.
@@MiracleChips if I remember correctly those were the days of goblin guide but vampires and wall of omens keep mono red out of the meta
Yeah, the only red deck that could survive at the time couldn't afford to play the dragonlord
Archangel's light is the card that taught me booster packs are a bad investment
'Descent into Madness' is a jankier, worse Smokestack, but Smokestack is so good that the bad version is still playable. Had one in a Hapatra EDH deck, it always became a 'must destroy' for my enemies as I could just exile tokens or even cards that I'd draw sacking tokens to Skullclamp. And "Hellcarver Demon" has a janky but fun combo that PleasantKenobi played in legacy, where you reanimate it and hit with it in a deck full of extra attack cards, effectively winning on a turn 2. If it's playable-ish in such a high power format, it's hardly deserving of being in a 'worst mythic ever' list, but that's my opinion.
Wizards defineitly has a different philosophy now, as compared to the story of Archangel's Light lol. They'd lean to print a busted card over a trash card nowadays if they were in the same set of circumstances... out of fear they haven't met their power creep quota lol. Then, they'd just slap a ban on it if it was too out-of-hand 🤷🏻♂️
Imho, this problem comes from WotC no longer having seperate teams for designing and developing cards. Their (relatively) new "play design" team - who's cards started to surface first with Throne of Eldraine - is both design and developement in one and I'm pretty sure that this causes a ton of powercreep problems. You just don't have a seperate set of eyes evaluating and rebalancing the cards and who really wants to tell somebody on their own team that their baby is ugly (aka busted) ?
@@Nr4747 i think it has more to do with the fact that wotc is a company which is constantly seeking higher and higher profits and will gradually go to greater lengths to get those profits. i like your theory better though its definitely more endearing
@@alaraplatt8104 It could be both, really. And Hasbro has been the parent company of WotC and extremely greedy for decades - so that's not as new as the design philosophy since Throne of Eldraine. Although it could have started affecting designs more recently, of course.
The thing with Kargan Dragonlord and Transcendent Master is that you can use proliferate effects to give them more level up counters as well as pay mana for the level up. Also I have used Dragonlord many times in a Red deck wins type deck and it has won me the game several times. It's nice when the deck is running out of steam(I have a friend that likes his stalling decks) and so I can dump my mana into it and get a big creature that wrecks face if no one has an answer for it.
Imo Nizzahon was unnecessarily harsh towards the Level Up Mythics. It might cost you 9 mana total to get the Dragonlord to being an 8/8, but you get to do it over multiple turns, and you don't have to spend cards in your hand to do it
Can you make a top 10 worst / top ten best magic sets. Not sure what data you could use on this but take into account how many cards in the set did well in high-level events, the EV of the set, how fun the set was to draft/play sealed, and overall how people liked it.
"If u ever wanna purchase these cards to use as coasters..."
Dam, now that's a burn
I once used decent into madness after spawning an infinite amount of tokens. Felt good
One question, this card can be good on mill decks?? What you think?
Yeah stax with token generation this card is a bomb.
@@jouysoleycomelles5229 I'm not sure... Most good mill cards are enchantments so you wanna keep your bored alive.
@@jouysoleycomelles5229 (waste not) seems like a nice combo with this. Mill a bunch hope to hit at least a few creatures per go and set up with the descent.
As someone who started playing MTG (Online) with Alara block, and stuck with it for a few years, it is surprising for me to see how many cards on this list are from that timeframe. Yeah, Arcangel's Light was an obvious #1, but 5 of the rest come from that timeframe as well, and a few of those (Molten-Tail Masticore, Hellcarver Demon, and Transcendant Master) were absolutely dominant cards in drafts, with Transcendant Master also seeing some pretty heavy play as a win condition in Standard UW Control decks I played against.
I don't think any of these were rrmotely close to dominant in drafts, and transcendent master might have been played by some, but it never appeared in any deck at a premiere event. I can agree that some of them are certainly fine to good in Limited, but none were dominant.
Rowdy Crew was the first mythic I ever pulled from a booster.
Kargan Dragonlord was actually a widely played cube card for some years.
It was also great in the standard rdw of the time as well.
Yeah, it was a fun card
I found Erebos's Titan played pretty well in a deck that could keep the field fairly clear, and had ways to reanimate an opponent's creature. The fact that the card allows for both blanking of removal of 2 types (targeted destroy effects, which are reasonably common, and burn) if they have no board state is actually a substantial upside vs some decks. I found it's a decent option for Pox if you don't want to run Rotting Regisaur, or if you actually think the indestructibility is good enough to warrant inclusion (or that the recursion is worth it, which it really can be if you can keep the field clear, because it lacks trample). Not saying it's a top tier card, just that it's better than it looks.
Those mythics with Level-Up would be a lot better if you could level up at instant speed, which would allow you to pump your extra mana into them at the end of your opponent's turn. That would make the cards well worth the extreme cost to hit their highest level as you can use mana you weren't going to use anyways, and make your opponent feel less bad about your instants because at least it buys them time before you leveler becomes a larger threat
Okay, time to see what cards i want for commander decks. Always love these worst cards lists
Use these cards as Coasters i almost died laughing omg. Great work bro
Descent into madness isnt nearly as bad as you think. In a deck, with alot of ways to generate alot of cheap tokens it shines. If your board is removed, you can always exile descend to madness itself. Nath of the gilth-leaf is a perfect example, where this card shines!
The art and flavor text on Decent Into Magness is super high quality though
I think number 4 can be pretty insane with a spamm heavy deck, like a token doubler deck or a ramp type of thing with enchantments or elfes
The first masticore was the best one by far. Mowed down everything and even regenerated
I'm sad to see Rowdy Crew in this list. It's probably my favorite card from Ixilan block (not that that's saying much.) It's at the very least a weird two-for-one, and it can also enable graveyard synergies (though it doesn't do that very well.) Plus, the random draw and discard is exciting and fun to do. If I was running a red EDH deck with graveyard synergies, I would probably throw in Rowdy Crew.
Hellcarver Demon combos with Doomsday, so I don’t think it’s deserving of its spot on this list
Just because it can combo with Doomsday doesn’t mean it is playable in any type of Doomsday deck.
That was my first thought too
I have a "Bad stuff" cube I made in paper. The only 2 mythics I have in it are Progenitus and Maze's end.
The cube has things like collect'em all cards, a few assist cards from battlebond like Huddle up and quite a few cards from the "worst card ever series" by The Manasource. The cube has a lot of themes like bad costed vannilas,1/1s with trample,coin flips,and meme inteactions like chillerpillar and cacoon. Unquenchable thirst and quench. As well as "Bomb" legends like Grun the lonely king,Fblthp, and Yargle.
Hellcarver was amazing in the original Zendikar set. It combo'd extremely well with Warp World and with heavy mana ramp, when it was still in Standard.
x4 Hellcarver
x4 Warp World
x4 Bogardan Hellkite
x2 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Won a couple local tournaments with the deck.
nooo :ccc Transcendent Master is my favourite Card of all time - i started playing Magic again after i got him; such an awsome artwork :>
I once paired up Descent into Madness with Krenko Mob Boss, and some proliferate to speed it up in a Grixis EDH deck and it worked quite nicely
The worst ones are whatever I pull from a pack
manipulate top to get barren glory on top, have an animate dead spell on hellcarver demon, profit. Could be a fun wincon in EDH. Doomsday + Hellcarver demon, could also be a fun alternative wincon in an already doomsday focused EDH deck. Get balancing act and Tergrid, god of fright on top, attack, have fun watching enemies having barely any board state while you suddenly have a huge one, this is for EDH too.
I play Erebos's Titan in my budget mono black devotion deck as a one-off, it is fairly efficient, but I use him only as a replacement for Phyrexian Obliterator.
I play the Dragonlord in my Ur-Dragon deck. He's a nice lightning rod creature since either the opponents answer it, wasting resources, and allow an opening for my scarier monsters, or let it get pumped while preparing. Mana is never an issue in that deck, and I often have so much floating around by turn 5 that getting it to be scary is quite easy.
I have it in my Gruul dragon deck. Honestly I think it's nice flavor to have that in there, but gameplay wise most decks with green shouldn't have any issue throwing an extra mana or two at it a turn. Like you said, it either gets removed or pretty quickly starts dishing out some damage along with whatever else you've played.
I built a deck around using hellcarver demon back when it was in standard. I had two hellcarver demons and four clone shells and a couple summoning traps. The whole point was to get Emrakul out for free! When it worked, it worked!
Erebos’s Titan was actually pretty cool at the time because Languish was printed in the same set. So unless you were up against Tasigur/Siege Rhino/Silumgar, you could get the Titan’s indestructible ability active really easily
First mythic I ever pulled was Ulvenwald Hydra. Playing for 4 years at the time I was psyched. Still one of my favorite green cards
I tried really hard to make Descent into Madness work in Standard. It didn't really, but it was still pretty fun and I think it's a super flavorful card.
Transcendant Master shows up in 39 Atraxa Decks, where you don't really need to put that much mana into it. You just Proliferate its counters.
It does a fine enough job as far as I've seen being a Planeswalker guard dog.
Descent into Madness is more or less a 'fixed' Smokestack, and works with similar strategies. (pump out a lot of tokens to exile, watch the opponent's board vanish.) It's Johnny-tastic, to be sure, but *worst* is stretching it, IMO.
Wold of devils breach i uave to say would be badass in Madness as Conspiracy Theorist is a heavily played card in that deck format and it is both less powerful and exiles the card which limits the situations for its use as the card may be gone for good.
Descent into Madness and Tombstone Stairwell work well together if you can accelerate the counters on Descent
I dont think Descent into Madness is that bad. It's basically just a worse Smokestack ... but any deck that really wants Smokestack should probably be running Descent as well.
"Archangel's Light" *only* costs seven mana more than it should. XD
I think it would see sideboard use at 2 or even 3. Consider how many mill decks are in format right now. A lot of times Rogues for example beats other aggro decks by mill pressure. So a lot of white aggro decks would like to have a couple of copies for game two, because it totally tranform the game if you could push it through the counters. In fact, it would be so meta that rogues would have to slow play to avoid it. I'm you are playing rogue and turn six or seven, white plays a card that puts the 30+ cards you've mill back in their library, and gains 60 life. Suddenly all your race conditions are heavily against you, your spell effects are turned off because they no longer have 8 in the graveyard, and you know that you are facing the same reset in your future.
I really like the idea of Erebos´s Titan in Marchesa Steal EDH decks. I can trigger it with her by flinging an enemies creature and getting it back with Marchesa.
Fun Fact:
I won the prerelease ROE Event thanks to Hellcarver Demon. I hit the enemy, and revealed "pelakka Wurm" and "Kozilek". Next time I revealed "It that Betrays". After that it was GG. :D
I had that kind of finish in two Games. I thought "It isn't that bad"... Well, that evaluation went downhill. :D
Soul of Ravnica does have some reasonable utility in edh, as birthing pod decks can tutor it up after generating infinite mana with perigrine drake in order to win the game on the spot, though that is pretty fringe for a mythic.
11:12 - Are you sure this is WotC we're talking about here!?
Indestructible when least needed, and comes back from the graveyard, but only when the stars line up just right if it's Tuesday. However he is devoted, and mono B 5/5 for 4.
I remember being very excited I pulled a mythic and then reading what rowdy crew does
Prerelease kit 1: 2x Halvors and an Eradicator Valkyrie
Prerelease kit 2: Orvar
Prerelease kit 3: 2x Showcase Valkis and a borderless Alrund’s Epiphany AND a foil In Search of Greatness
Should I quite while I’m ahead?
As soon as i saw Rowdy crew in a booster i opened, my first reaction was that it was not a good mythic. I have a binder with mostly mythics and rares and i dont want it near that. Hahaha
I think Axis of Mortality deserves to be on this list... It's a giant, useless enchantment, and after getting it for my first 3 straight mythics on arena, I quit playing arena. Yes, that might taint my vision of it, but I still can't see where it would be terribly useful in all but VERY small narrow niche situations in EDH.
Love the channel nizzahon!
Lol I have archangels light in one of my decks and I just use it to make sure I don’t deck out. I don’t have a mana problem for casting it cause I also have green in my deck. I think it’s okay for late game affects or if you’re going up against a mill deck. You have 99 cards in your library if 50 of those get reshuffled into your library that’s100 life gain and depending on what cards you have on board may even win you the game.
It's weird, I like to see cards worth playing, but I like seeing cards not worth playing more.
Used to play Hellcarver Demon with Rakdos the Defiler and other demon bombs. It seemed to work.
I'm glad to see Mind's Dilation is off this list. Perfect card for my steal stuff deck, which balances the feel-bads of stealing by having an element of randomness to it.
Yeah it is great in EDH, so it is one of those that should never have been there
I like how Archangel's Light singlehandedly makes Helvault not the worst mythic of DKA.
So here's some edh deck styles where those cards are okay:
10 : for any deck trying to get infinite mana it's another staff of domination
9 : wrath tribal ? giant tribal ? okay I'm stumped with this one
8 : well you said it cleric tribal, also it's a great "leftover" mana sink
7 : same as 8 just slightly worse, funny those 2 don't synergize with Zirda while lower rarities one does (Hedron field purist is a must in Zirda)
6 : Well there is 12 madness B/R cards with CMC 5+ so yep good with Falkenrath
5 : With the new pirates in CMRlegend it's hard to justify especially if you also play U, still it's okayish if topdecked in mono-R
4 : Tokens Decks love this Prosh, Thalisse etc...
3 : If you can set up the top of your deck with CMC 7+... DOOMSDAY (evil laugh), I mean the card Doomsday
2 : Ok that's pure unadulterated Jank of Olde, Dredge with Zirda companion ? Memelord ?
1 : Lathiel love this, also a "security" in self mill deck
0 : Also all those cards are CHEAP (づ◔ ͜ʖ◔)づ
Soul of ravnjca with training grounds , biomancers familiar, and if you can turn it into an artifact giving it power artifact would be fun to see
Molten-tail masticore was my first mythic. I had recently rejoined magic after having originally started and then leaving in Kamigawa. To have this welcome me back was such a slap in the face that I once again quit Magic.
The only thing that brought me back was the commander 2017 decks (I am a sucker for dragons). I dont buy packs though, because of how hit or miss the rares, and especially the mythics are.
Wizards should be a lot more careful with the power of their mythics. Opening a bad one just leaves such a bad taste in people's mouths.
How much life per card would Archangel's Light have to gain to be broken at it's current mana cost? I think at 5 life per it could be pretty oppressive.
All the world’s life gain vs one horny boi
I actually made Molten-tail work pretty damn well before. I played self mill with training grounds. Unless they can remove it right away its instant death on your next upkeep
@Nizzahon Magic Do you know of the Big Bad Daddy Dom ( Legacy Hellcarver Demon Combo ) deck?
Despite being the top 10 worst mythics, I'll be more than happy to Pack 1 Pick 1 at least the top 6-10 cards on this list. It just goes to show that Mythics are still inherently much more powerful.