I put the Flo Pro twister resonator on my 2018 6.7 because I hated the highway drone after deleting it and adding the 4inch straight pipe. It helped so much! I also had one single 30 hp tune so I didn't care abut making insane hp numbers. It was a daily driver for the most part. I'd recommend to anyone that can't stand drone to get a resonator because they definitely help. This guy was also running a muffler too, so that along with a resonator seems like over kill. Just my 2 cents though. Run what makes you happy.
a simple straight through resonator with fine perforated screen inside will really cut down on noise and drone and I doubt it will sacrifice much if any power, that stupid twisty thing is obviously going to be a real restriction!!!
@@mvcg-cl4cr eh.... thinking about putting one on my straight piped 6.2 Detroit... its got extreme drone, and the exhaust is dual 2.25 back from the down pipe so it certainly isn't going to restrict it more..... on a stock truck those things DON'T seriously restrict exhaust but you are talking about turboing and tuning and are gonna have much higher flowing exhaust.... they make a 5in version also which might do the trick or perhaps you could put two on with a y and y back down.... I'd think driving without a resonator is a non option long term unless ya wanna go deaf.
@@Wingnut353 been thinking about a cat delete on 5.7 Ram. I've seen the resonator deletes, with an aftermarket muffler and the sound is awsome!! The drone.... fck no 🙌
I have to agree those fte style mufflers reduce a lot of noise but they are heavy restrictive. I took mine off and dropped egts 200 degrees and it just ran so much better. Now have a Flo-pro 5” straight thru muffler and it’s perfect.
I took my ram to the shop because of the cat engine light only to find out it didn’t have one and the one on the exhaust was a resonator, I’m thinking of just cutting that off my self and sticking something and clamping it down with some exhaust clamps, but idk cuz idk that much about vehicles. My ram is a 4.7 so it’s not fast but the resonator makes that truck so fricken slow
Another company has done it with a 5 inch exhaust and made 819hp straight piped and 800hp with the twister. I'm running it on my 5 inch system as i'm no where near where its going to make a difference.
Well, I guess if I just listened to your verbiage at the beginning I woulda heard you say for people looking to get high horse power numbers they block it up. I’m not looking for high numbers so I should be fine. Just looking to add the smarty jr, air intake, and air intake horn.
Best muffler I’ve had is Aeroturbine, hands down. They are made to increase flow by design. And on a 5 “ it is 5” straight through, and they do not neck down to 4”
I had a 3.5" Aero on my Dmax when it was stock, I really liked it. Not too loud, no drone, decent sound, really good product. Thats the only device on the exhaust then, no resonator and mine never had a cat from the factory. love to have 6" since it was so effective but have to drop to 5" . Really nice looking & well made too.
Would have been nice to see the two dyno graphs side by side, with and without the resonator. I’m curious to know if most of the difference was at high rpm where max hp would be. If there’s not much difference under 2800 rpm, some guys that aren’t using their trucks competitively might not care enough to take them off
Right, but the pulls started around 2800 rpm. Many of us are driving trucks that rarely ever see 2800 and higher rpm. I’m curious how much difference it makes at lower rpm and on more stock-ish trucks. It’s great to see these results too.
@@jaredfreeman5562 This is a S476/87/090, this truck isn't going to get up on peak boost much below 2600rpm so you won't make over 200hp at low rpm when the turbo isn't on full boost, and at that point, the resonator will not be a concern. We would need a truck with closer to a stock turbo to test it at lower rpm.
Firepunk Diesel, that makes sense. If you get one on the dyno with a resonator and a 64 or 67mm turbo, I know I’d like to see a video of the difference.
Firepunk Diesel I think a lot of us deleted and second gen swapped guys are curious what the loss would be on our lower hp trucks. Like stock vgt with and without resonator. Or S467 on stock fueling with and without resonator.
Make a Helmholtz resonator based on the noise freq. you want to eliminate and no more drone. You can find calculators online so you know what tubing and lenght you need to eliminate drone.
After watching this video I removed my flo pro 4" twister p/n 51299 and now my s369sxe does not build boost no way as quickly as it did before. I do understand the restriction when making large HP due to the volume of air flow but at moderate throttle the turbo response is so much more laggy and smoky after removing it. Instead of re installing the twister I am gonna try a straight thru aero turbine resonator to see if my lower end boost response is restored. If all else fails I will keep the 70 to 120 hp loss up top and reinstall the twister ..
Put one of those on my '16 6.7 and thought the no drone was great...until I mashed on it and felt the power loss. Went to a straight through perforated resonator and never looked back
I used a second muffler of the same type to reduce my noise. Not sure if it hurt my power or not. Magnaflow 12770 and a 12773. Interested in your thoughts. I recently tried to weld a hander on it and burned a hole so plan to replace it with 5 inch of the same type. The pin hole has so much pressure which is what spawned the idea to throw more money.
It seems terribly obvious that the issue here is not "resonators" in general but rather that particular crazy bottleneck baffle from what looks like 8" diameter to maybe 2" diameter dude was using. That's less of a resonator more of a tube shaped chambered muffler. An appropriate length/diameter, to dissipate the sound frequency the owner finds an objectionable, of a simple fibreglass/steel wool/ceramic wool pack pipe would rob them of very little power and tune the sound.
I never understood resonators just get a quality muffler. My old diamond eye never droned. If thats too loud Donaldson has some badass mufflers. I didnt notice any real seat of the pants gains from the straight pipe. Mayne 25* or so.drop in egt
But we know that dyne numbers are lower the first run and higher on the second run and third. Should do a first run with it off then install it and run a second time.
What flow thru muffler you guys recommend for a 6.7 cummins? Also is there any major improvement on 5 vs 4” nothing crazy just a delete want as little drone as possible
So on a 6.7 with stock fuel and a second gen swap how much do you guys think would the hp loss be? Of course it's not gonna be as significant but sounds like it could still easily be 20 30 hp?
A poorly designed and necked down resonator will for sure. A straight through not necked down one should make no difference. It's not just the presence of a resonator, it's the resonator you choose.
Those are the most restrictive pieces of shit on the market. I had a 75/96 single on my lbz with a 4” fte and the second time I went wot it blew the muffler of along with the pipe that went over my axle. The difference it made when it shot off was night and day lol
Is 1500 ftlbs tq the number you typically want to stay under with stock rods? At what level is sleeves recommended? And what injector for that 1150 hp?
man ive been wondering about this. I have a res on right at the downpipe to straight pipe. Wondering if i should go back to all straight or not lol. After watching this video time to pull that some bitch off lol.
I put the Flo Pro twister resonator on my 2018 6.7 because I hated the highway drone after deleting it and adding the 4inch straight pipe. It helped so much! I also had one single 30 hp tune so I didn't care abut making insane hp numbers. It was a daily driver for the most part. I'd recommend to anyone that can't stand drone to get a resonator because they definitely help. This guy was also running a muffler too, so that along with a resonator seems like over kill. Just my 2 cents though. Run what makes you happy.
Where did you install it in the exhaust? Did you leave the resonator?
a simple straight through resonator with fine perforated screen inside will really cut down on noise and drone and I doubt it will sacrifice much if any power, that stupid twisty thing is obviously going to be a real restriction!!!
@@mvcg-cl4cr eh.... thinking about putting one on my straight piped 6.2 Detroit... its got extreme drone, and the exhaust is dual 2.25 back from the down pipe so it certainly isn't going to restrict it more..... on a stock truck those things DON'T seriously restrict exhaust but you are talking about turboing and tuning and are gonna have much higher flowing exhaust.... they make a 5in version also which might do the trick or perhaps you could put two on with a y and y back down.... I'd think driving without a resonator is a non option long term unless ya wanna go deaf.
@@Wingnut353 been thinking about a cat delete on 5.7 Ram. I've seen the resonator deletes, with an aftermarket muffler and the sound is awsome!! The drone.... fck no 🙌
I have to agree those fte style mufflers reduce a lot of noise but they are heavy restrictive. I took mine off and dropped egts 200 degrees and it just ran so much better. Now have a Flo-pro 5” straight thru muffler and it’s perfect.
I took my ram to the shop because of the cat engine light only to find out it didn’t have one and the one on the exhaust was a resonator, I’m thinking of just cutting that off my self and sticking something and clamping it down with some exhaust clamps, but idk cuz idk that much about vehicles. My ram is a 4.7 so it’s not fast but the resonator makes that truck so fricken slow
the loss is far more dramatic in this case because the res bottlenecked the exhaust from like 5" down to 2.5" at the res...ofcourse it will rob power
Can we all just appreciate how big that intercooler is.......
5" FTE resonator for sale. Had it a few years, never installed. Let me know if anyone wants it lol
I have that exact resonator/muffler on my truck and it might get cut off soon😅
Steve Trojano I’ll take it
Steve Trojano I am thinking the same thing!! 😆
Glad to see my old compound setup doing work !!
When are you guys releasing “send em on the way” apparel?
I’d like to see this test: With vs Without a FIVE inch resonator on a stock turbo 6.7 Cummins.
My bet is you won’t see much (if any) loss in power.
Another company has done it with a 5 inch exhaust and made 819hp straight piped and 800hp with the twister. I'm running it on my 5 inch system as i'm no where near where its going to make a difference.
I'd like to see what difference it makes when it's a 5 inch resonator without any muffler
Strait pipe all the way 😬👍🏻💨💨💨
Congrats on 20k Firepunk crew!! Great info, thanks
It seems that the culprit is factory resonators. Performance resonators don't have that inner tube which without a doubt be a restriction.
What about one of those 5 inch flow pro twisters? Do they rob power as well? Surely not that much.
Well, I guess if I just listened to your verbiage at the beginning I woulda heard you say for people looking to get high horse power numbers they block it up. I’m not looking for high numbers so I should be fine. Just looking to add the smarty jr, air intake, and air intake horn.
Best muffler I’ve had is Aeroturbine, hands down. They are made to increase flow by design. And on a 5 “ it is 5” straight through, and they do not neck down to 4”
I had a 3.5" Aero on my Dmax when it was stock, I really liked it. Not too loud, no drone, decent sound, really good product. Thats the only device on the exhaust then, no resonator and mine never had a cat from the factory. love to have 6" since it was so effective but have to drop to 5" . Really nice looking & well made too.
Damn, that's a lotta power robbed by that resonator. But it does help a lot reducing drone.
Would have been nice to see the two dyno graphs side by side, with and without the resonator. I’m curious to know if most of the difference was at high rpm where max hp would be. If there’s not much difference under 2800 rpm, some guys that aren’t using their trucks competitively might not care enough to take them off
You can see your comparison at 2:18 in this video
Right, but the pulls started around 2800 rpm. Many of us are driving trucks that rarely ever see 2800 and higher rpm. I’m curious how much difference it makes at lower rpm and on more stock-ish trucks. It’s great to see these results too.
@@jaredfreeman5562 This is a S476/87/090, this truck isn't going to get up on peak boost much below 2600rpm so you won't make over 200hp at low rpm when the turbo isn't on full boost, and at that point, the resonator will not be a concern. We would need a truck with closer to a stock turbo to test it at lower rpm.
Firepunk Diesel, that makes sense. If you get one on the dyno with a resonator and a 64 or 67mm turbo, I know I’d like to see a video of the difference.
Firepunk Diesel I think a lot of us deleted and second gen swapped guys are curious what the loss would be on our lower hp trucks. Like stock vgt with and without resonator. Or S467 on stock fueling with and without resonator.
Make a Helmholtz resonator based on the noise freq. you want to eliminate and no more drone. You can find calculators online so you know what tubing and lenght you need to eliminate drone.
After watching this video I removed my flo pro 4" twister p/n 51299 and now my s369sxe does not build boost no way as quickly as it did before. I do understand the restriction when making large HP due to the volume of air flow but at moderate throttle the turbo response is so much more laggy and smoky after removing it. Instead of re installing the twister I am gonna try a straight thru aero turbine resonator to see if my lower end boost response is restored. If all else fails I will keep the 70 to 120 hp loss up top and reinstall the twister ..
Did you change it out yet? The ones from Flowmaster are supposed to be great
Wow that’s as I like to say, “Nucking Futs”!!!!! Would have never guessed that much. Wonder what a flow through muffler like my diamond eye robs??
A flow through robs very little
Put one of those on my '16 6.7 and thought the no drone was great...until I mashed on it and felt the power loss. Went to a straight through perforated resonator and never looked back
What resonator did you go with?
What about aero muffler that claims it moves air faster have you tried those
Straight piped my LBZ. Sounds great with no drone.
I thought those came like that. Not even a muffler
Well damn that resonator was like a straw... Vibrants are wide open
I used a second muffler of the same type to reduce my noise. Not sure if it hurt my power or not. Magnaflow 12770 and a 12773. Interested in your thoughts.
I recently tried to weld a hander on it and burned a hole so plan to replace it with 5 inch of the same type. The pin hole has so much pressure which is what spawned the idea to throw more money.
It seems terribly obvious that the issue here is not "resonators" in general but rather that particular crazy bottleneck baffle from what looks like 8" diameter to maybe 2" diameter dude was using. That's less of a resonator more of a tube shaped chambered muffler.
An appropriate length/diameter, to dissipate the sound frequency the owner finds an objectionable, of a simple fibreglass/steel wool/ceramic wool pack pipe would rob them of very little power and tune the sound.
Well seems like an electronic cut out is the obvious solution and keep the resonator
Have you guys found this resonator to cause a considerable loss of HP on mild build trucks too?
Under 500hp, the loss is not significant
@@FirepunkDiesel - you mentioned another truck where you lost 70 hp. What kinda power was that truck making?
@@Crazystuffyousee That truck was making 709HP with the resonator, took it off and it made 779HP
That's just because it necked down in the middle. Get a real straight through one at 4 or 5in it won't be an issue
Thanks guys! That Comet trick is funny too!
All these years, can't believe I'm just hearing about this...does it do any cleaning while it's in there hahaha
@@james_jr some self cleaning haha The EPA can't say it's dirty any longer!!
Don't use bleach. It will discolor aluminum parts is comes in contact with. Use baby powder. Works better than bleach without the harm.
Have you guys made a video of why the 48 is a better transmission?
I heard resonators don't hurt hp. But maybe it's when you tune a stock component 4th gen Cummins?
I never understood resonators just get a quality muffler. My old diamond eye never droned. If thats too loud Donaldson has some badass mufflers. I didnt notice any real seat of the pants gains from the straight pipe. Mayne 25* or so.drop in egt
But we know that dyne numbers are lower the first run and higher on the second run and third. Should do a first run with it off then install it and run a second time.
We had run 5 pulls on it before we took it off
@@FirepunkDiesel Thats what I like to hear.
WOW!!! Amazing. Thank you for sharing.
That’s why I’m looking into a quality 4” electric exhaust cutout.
Qvp electric cut out or any valves vacuum cutout
Where are you located? Might want you guys to work on my diesel one day, thanks! Like all your viedos, you all rock!💪
What was his limiting factor on making more power? 100%’s wouldn’t fuel high enough?
Well I’m going to cut that shit off from my trucks…
Cool video 😎 and I never seen the comet trick....good stuff💯🔥
My resonator is 2 turbines. 👍🏼
What flow thru muffler you guys recommend for a 6.7 cummins? Also is there any major improvement on 5 vs 4” nothing crazy just a delete want as little drone as possible
Tiny pipe in such a big resonator put a bigger opening resonator to match the size of pipe
Need to use a straight through resonator and not something that chokes it down like that
Compounds fix drone
So I have a Ford 6.7 with the test pipe and tuned. Still have factory dpf back tail pipe so could I pick up for power by removing that.
Same...seriously considering a 5" rear section now. Hope someone chimes in, because that stock tailpipe definitely has a small resonator in it.
Yes you will add some power by opening up the rear dpf back part... highly recommend
Why not just do a full exhaust?? Unless it's warranty you're worried about. I understand it's a lot easier to just swap in/out a test pipe.
So on a 6.7 with stock fuel and a second gen swap how much do you guys think would the hp loss be? Of course it's not gonna be as significant but sounds like it could still easily be 20 30 hp?
So just curious, what about the aeroturbine resonated mufflers? They are straight through.
We haven't dynod one, I have on my coach but being straight through I doubt there's any power loss!
Could you recommend a Muffler to cut out drone, without HP loss?
Great question I've deleted my resonator and muffler and iam concerned about performance loss
Probably the real question is how much boost does that on3 intercooler leak?
A poorly designed and necked down resonator will for sure. A straight through not necked down one should make no difference. It's not just the presence of a resonator, it's the resonator you choose.
Those are the most restrictive pieces of shit on the market. I had a 75/96 single on my lbz with a 4” fte and the second time I went wot it blew the muffler of along with the pipe that went over my axle. The difference it made when it shot off was night and day lol
I have a very hard time believing a straight through resonator robbed this truck of 15% HP. I'm betting ot was the previous tume.
With all other supporting mods, what power would a s467-s480 compound kit be capable of?
1150hp max
Is 1500 ftlbs tq the number you typically want to stay under with stock rods? At what level is sleeves recommended? And what injector for that 1150 hp?
A flow through is actually a resonator
Change my mind
Do resonators hurt power in gas rigs though? 🤔
Engines are air pumps and if they can't get rid of old air they can't take in as much fresh air
Does it make any difference with it being a 4” vs 5” or will the power loss be the same roughly?
I’m wondering the same thing
What about intake resonators? Do they rob horsepower?
I think not but I would like to see test results
Interesting that the resonator reduces hp 😢 im cutting mine off
What state you guys in
Plain City OH
man ive been wondering about this. I have a res on right at the downpipe to straight pipe. Wondering if i should go back to all straight or not lol. After watching this video time to pull that some bitch off lol.
Wtf type of resonator was that lol, just get a normal resonator straightthrough.
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honestly those look like very very internally restrictive resonators, like none I've ever seen. Probably not apples to apples to all resonators.
but....resognator? that's painful to hear and read
Anyone buying one of these crazy contraptions deserves to lose hp
First😁
What trans are these guys running?
Mine has the comp3 48re
Thanks for popping in Emanuel, beautiful truck
Bullsh!t !!!!
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