The Fall of Phoenix Jones
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- In the last decade, Seattle saw a group of real life superheroes patrolling their streets, led by the controversial Phoenix Jones. This story chronicles their tumultuous beginning, all the way to their shocking end.
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Further Reading/Viewing/Listening:
Phoenix Jones RUclips: ruclips.net/user/ThePhoenixJones
Rain City Superhero RUclips: ruclips.net/user/RAINCITYSUPERHERO
Purple Reign RUclips: ruclips.net/user/PurpleReignSeattle
El Caballero RUclips: ruclips.net/channel/UC0pMYkFX06dcagKg0homQ8g
Car Jacking: ruclips.net/video/te-tKEoBkt4/видео.html
Broken Nose: ruclips.net/video/TXFlrMa3wwA/видео.html
First arrest: ruclips.net/video/4lgB95WVpFg/видео.html
Ryan McNamee's video of "assault": ruclips.net/video/Fu7TCu9a3sM/видео.html
Face Reveal: ruclips.net/video/3LSs7pKn_s4/видео.html
Bob Rivers Interview 1: ruclips.net/video/Y5TsSGhV0bM/видео.html
Bob Rivers Interview 2: ruclips.net/video/zazPY_cGA-U/видео.html
Ryan Corey ("Rex Velvet"): ruclips.net/user/dirtyc34
KIRO Radio Interview: mynorthwest.com/82068/seattle-superhero-phoenix-jones-is-hiring/
Jason Rantz Interview: mynorthwest.com/142244/phoenix-jones-true-life-comic-book-features-gruesome-seattle-death/
Shockwave's Allegations & Phoenix's Announcement: www.seattleweekly.com/news/above-phoenix-jones-knocking-out-a-neer-do-well-in-the-u/
NW Nerd Interview: nw-nerd.com/podcasts/2019/3/7/episode-325-why-seattles-superhero-phoenix-jones-is-retiring
Drug Bust: www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/seattle-superhero-phoenix-jones-charged-after-undercover-drug-bust/
Dark Guardian Interview with Midnight Jack: anchor.fm/superyourself/episodes/Midnight-Jack-Interview-eaihed
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@@soulmechanics7946 facts
I should like to encourage all sodas, robotic or not, to continue saying whatever comes to mind.
"Phoenix Jones, local crimefighter, commits local crime" gold
Up there with "4 dead found dead"
It's not like batman handicapped 50 people
Local crime commit-er*
bloody elbow generally has good titles hahaha
Literally if Batman was real he could be charged with so much shit
Among the fake supervillains there should’ve been a J. Jonah Jameson lookalike with a cigar and mustache that would rant online about how Phoenix Jones is a menace to society
We technically got that with the guy wearing a ghost face mask
Isn't that exactly what Rex Velvet was?
@@TsunamiWombat close but no cigar (*ba-dum tss*)
@@TsunamiWombat Tbh, I'd love to see Rex Velvet make a return as a baddie. Maybe in a video game or something
@@jonahi1304 - Nice
So he sold drugs during the day and got rid of competition during the night.
Lol
So he's a guy who's high and thinks he's a superhero?
LMAO
This reminds me way too much of a real life, street level version of Irradeemable
What a hypocrite
Jones making fun of people who hand out food, shovel snow, etc. was the first red flag for me. If you demean others who are doing nothing but helping others because it's not cool enough for you, something is wrong. A real superhero would support those who are seeking to help others.
I agree but not for the same reasons. Just like you that signaled to me he thought he's above that. He wants bigger fish but he's like if batman were weaker and had no self restraint
a real "super" hero also has power
"A real superhero would support those who are seeking to help others." the same could be said to dismiss every single one of Jones's detractors
@@Ultimate_Gamer_3000 u do know Batman puts all he’s money into hospitals homeless shelters everything for he’s city right
@@leo01ng clearly some confusion has occured so I'd like you to explain your mistaken understanding of what I said so we can quickly and efficiently straighten this out
He takes his mask off to showcase his impossibly crisp and clean flat-top, this man really is a superhero
Bro real shit🤣
Parker Brown or when Ali g takes his durag off
This guy is a douche. Basically a self glorified security guard with a dumb looking costume and an even dumber haircut. Getting in the way of law enforcement, destroying evidence. I’m glad he’s gone.
Looks like if etika was a superhero
Honestly bruh
"Confused as to how to begin, Ben took to simply brooding on rooftops."
Laugh of 2020 for me, along with "condemned by other costumed heroes, who considered him delusional."
I do roofing all day long, I wear a harness all day long. I would love to see some idiot drop down in a harness. you can end up loosing your guts.
@@WritesMe "He's not a monster. He's just ahead of the curve."
I think that's mandatory if you're in super hero biz. Daredevil, Raphael (TMNT), Punisher (sometimes) and of course Batman))
@@bloodbath-and-beyond according to google that's a pretty common mistake
"Retiring in his 20's after inventing corrugated fiberglass" Now that's a superhero.
This has got to be the most underrated comment here
He definitely had fuck you -money.
That's what stuck out to me 🤣
LL Capitan sticky
@@oz_jones And he didn't get greedy with it.. if only Bezos or Musk had that kind of moral character
Imagine trying to buy a dub and getting jumped by the justice league.
You mean the Justice Dweebs?
@@SpiderGirl1615 Bet they rock those suits better than you tho lol
@@dunnlean9041 ain’t no way you’re defending the Bar Bruisers. The Defeaters of Drunks. The Pub Pummelers.
@@SpiderGirl1615 possibly the most amazing nicknames ever
@@SpiderGirl1615 A guy who runs towards an active shooter with an intent to stop him is pretty selfless in my books.
Wait, so you can legit legally challenge people to a fist fight duel in Seattle?
Neat.
heaven
Yes. Mutual pugilism is still on the books in Seattle law. You need a cop present though, to make sure it doesn't turn too dangerous. You get to drop the person, not beat the crap out of the person.
I'm pretty sure it's legal all over the US. You just need to make sure you don't kill anyone, don't damage any property, don't use excessive force (like bringing a knife to a fist fight), stop when the opponents call it off, and can 100% prove everyone involved consented to the fight. Correct me if I'm wrong, if anyone who (unlike me) has a law degree.
@@deuceloosely1120 I definitely don't have a law degree. I only know specifically about Seattle law because I am local to the region and remember the incident.
@Please Complete All Fields I could see a surly cop pushing a Disturbing The Peace charge, so I am reluctant to say mutual combat is legal in all 50 states.
Rex Velvet has the same vibe as someone laughing and playing along with a joke right before realizing that they're not kidding.
To be fair... He also took part in a make-a-wish thing where he "kidnapped" the Seattle Seahawks mascot so a 12 year old going as "Agent C" for the duration of the wish could defeat him (in a silly string duel).
@@kitmakin289 wait what really this is incredible
@@kitmakin289 the REAL hero
@@The-kr9rb There's an article on it from 2012.
@@kitmakin289 awww that’s actually pretty wholesome
This is like a peek into what drama channels would be like if the DC/marvel universe was real
Its real, we just call it reddit
95North well only if superpowers were in the real world.
Literally the plot of the first Incredibles
... Yo, I just got a great idea.
The boys
Girl gets shot.
Phoenix Jones sitting on the sidewalk wondering "Why me?"
"Captain sticky" sounds like porn parody of an actual super hero.
Peter Parker: Alright, I just finished my sticky goo shooter-things. Now I just need a name. Hmm...my goo is sticky, I can stick to walls...aha! I got it! I shall now be known as...Captain Sticky!
It do tho
Dude def looks like the Ron Jeremy of super heroes.
Try Cereal or Snack
That's perfect for a bangbros video. LOL.
"Polar Man travels the streets of Canada, shoveling driveways" Finally a hero I can relate to! 💎
This guys are all d and c class heroes in one punch
@@rikrob5172 ahahaha he is! 🤣🤣
I wish Polar Man lived on my block.
@@AutomaticSelector Next time there's a blizzard, leave a hot cup of Tim Hortons out on the porch. See if you can summon him! 🤣
@@TitansTracks Woe to you, oh snow and ice
For the Polarman drinks the hortons hot
Because he knows the time is short
Let him who hath understanding
Reckon the number of the plow
For it is a Polarman number
It's number is two.
Funding a war on drugs with drug money is straight out of a government playbook lol
There were claims the government actually sold cocaine in South America to fund a civil war in Nicaragua
RandomGuyOriginal I'm pretty sure that's just confirmed at this point
My boy liked to party. I was deep in the race scene and id see him at them all the time. It was either Thunderdome 1 or Zomboy I saw him last. Tdome1 would have been about two years ago.
@@idrisa7909 im pretty sure the Cia said(obviously paraphrasing) : yeah we trafficked cocaine for money to fund the contras, what you're gonna do about it?
Absolute power corrupts absolutely and so does a little power corrupt a little....
Incredible how accurate Alan Moore's watchmen was to how real life superheroes would be
People going around fighting crime whit costumes
Nope this is just cringe Cringemen
@@remix4098 What?
@@foreverGM.006 you can’t read?
@@remix4098 I can, I just don't understand what you mean by this
He's like a character out of Watchmen. And if you have read Watchmen then you know that is not a good thing.
His inspiration came from Nightwing thus the suits style
@@CollegeDroputPowerpoints I'm not talking about his suit. I'm talking about his personality.
Watchmen shows the reality of being a “hero” in real life. It’s quite disturbing honestly.
more like Kick-Ass or powered down The Boys given the ending lmao
"Its all a joke"
-The comedian 🙂
The real hero is the Canadian guy going around shoveling snow lmao. He's the one I'd be cheering for.
He's like this weak newbie background hero everyone laughs at, but has a real connection with people around, kinda like the cyclist in One Punch Man
Eh, you're welcome Bud!
And with a spade shovel, no less. Takes super hero ability to shovel any amount of an area covered in snow....whith a spade shovel. Lmao
I bet you'd cheer from your porch lol
@@Vulcan23 Yeah no shit, I'm from Texas. if it snows here enough to warrant shoveling snow it's time to bunker down and hide from the outside until the intense heat that sustains my people returns.
He was a bigger villain than the other villains in the video.
1 he was selling drugs
2 he scammed his allies out of money
3 he discouraged other real life heroes
4 he singlehandedly destroyed the Seattle superhero movement
Not even Lex Luthor comes close...
He's like the Terra of real life heroes or something.
Destroying an unaccountable vigilante movement is imo a win. Seattle is a shithole of violent crime because of the political class who rule Washington. Want evidence? Those who value the rule of law do not let masked revolutionaries throw shit at an unprotected courthouse.
Perhaps he was the hidden supervillain of this comic book.
Holy shit.
As a superhero fan I think his story sadly represents a very easy trap that these stories have fallen into as of recent. In comic books all these crazy events happen where the average human is treated as nothing but numbers on the casualty board. In the Batman Arkham games the city is evacuated and the average thugs still there are made to be over the top evil so that you don't feel bad breaking their bones. In the MCU the Avengers went from saving New Yorkers while fighting aliens to battling in empty wastelands.
Phoenix Jones is like this weird real life representation of everything I dislike about my favorite storytelling medium. All violence, no kindness.
Wait, you are against mindless comic violence, but at the same time are complaining that they aren't fighting in the middle of the city with hundreds of civilian casualties?
@@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon I think they were pretty clear on the issue.
In the past, superheroes were about fighting crime and saving the innocent, trying to avoid collateral damage and apprehending criminals and super-villains. Post-Man-of-Steel, when people complained about Superman's disregard for the civilians caught up in the crossfire, punching and pushing Zod through buildings and destroying them, along with the people in them, the suits in charge of DC and Marvel decided that the problem wasn't the excessive violence and destruction, but that it happened in a city with people in it.
By moving conflicts to various wastelands or conveniently abandoned areas, they could still cause all the devastation they wanted, but in turn, it removed the whole "save the innocent" and "limit collateral damage" aspect of heroics from the equation. Without that, these conflicts end up as safe, sterile spectacles, and the stakes of "we have to stop this supervillain because otherwise innocent people will be hurt" slowly morphed into "we have to stop this supervillain, or an entire universe will be destroyed with all the people in it, who we aren't showing, because we're in a wasteland, but trust us, they are there, and it would be really bad if their universe got destroyed".
To be fair, the Arkham games are video games so it should feel good to beat the crap out of them. I agree with the MCU critique though
@@Horvath_Gabor Sounds kinda nitpicky, since Thanos was after the Time Stone, it would be pretty dumb if Dr Strange just teleported back to New York and endangered every single person there when they fight, clearly there was a pretty good reason as to why they were fighting in the middle of a wasteland and not in a big crowded city that time
@@theoriginalman9426jesus christ dude you missed the entire point
"You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain"
He took that quote a little too seriously.
Nolan's Dark Knight movies man, the quotes cut deep into the fabric of real world human behavior.
yes...he did take that quote a little too seriously. You can say the same thing to half of the comments on this video! XD
The premise of this literally sounds like kick-ass not gonna lie
He became "THE MOTHERF#$@!ER"
More like mystery men
More like "The Boys"
Sol Morningstar naw the boys actually has people with powers
I mean he literally got inspired by the movie... so duh.
This is like if Batman was caught selling arms to criminals.
...Which has probably happened in some obscure comic book story arc.
That's just iron Man
@Rodney James he even has gold on his suit
@@lostgem8225 yellow/gold. Most do
@Rodney James Absolutely fucking hysterical
Definitely. He started off doin that in different countries before he took the mantle of Batman. Either way tho. -- Using an alter ego to trap criminals into a sting is something commonly done to stop illegal business. Batman def had a bad rap wit law enforcement. Only guy he really fcked wit was Gordon. Before he was commissioner. Remember, Gotham was full of dirty cops that vilified Batman as "a crazed vigilante". Blamed every botched sting and every crime on Batman. Lettin the real bad guys getting away. THats exactly what this sounds like.
The costume was probably the biggest red flag that this was a vanity project. He invests in a bullet-resistant layer for practicality, but practically speaking if you're going to prowl around your neighborhood at nights taking justice into your own hands, the last thing you want is for muggers or pushers to see a big ass gold stripe on your costume signaling your approach.
Dark matte colors in outline-blurring shapes and ditch the go-pro, nobody will see you coming.
Hypothetically speaking.
Mr. Wayne, is that you?
Ironically, Batman did it very well. He goes full black. Only discernible features are the horn and white eyes which is terrifying. The only flaw is the mouth. Seriously, a bullet or even some glass to the mouth and that mf ded
@@familyguysofunny1933nd the white eyes are only artistic choices, most of the time they don’t even exist. Which is also why the Batman Beyond Suit is the best one
No you need color all black is a good way to get the cops called on you
Matte Black and Dark Blood Red is a good choice?
This was an emotional rollercoaster. Started out thinking he was a fool and a joke. Then about halfway through I accumulated quite a bit of respect for him, but in the same amount of time 90% of it dwindled away
Me too
It really sucks that he ended up this way because that dude was seriously good at his job the simple fact that the police respected him tells you that
I definitely agree
@@dirckthedork-knight1201 I'm mean he had 2 kids gotta put food on the table
@@KipBlade he’s a pice of crap he did do some good things but he has to much hatred in him
@@osahjackson8580 he doesn't have issues tho
Tries to make a difference, becomes disillusioned as he gets older, gets arrested for selling drugs. Goddamn sad.
or, you could see it as he was a drug dealer just getting rid of the competition in a way that looks good to everyone else (including the local law enforcement- because he often acted within the law to bring them to justice).
It’s actually a shame! He was a huge inspiration for many people! Trying to show hope as a superhero! A thing many people want to be!
So it’s such a shame
Phoenix jones depends and diapers bullet proof your ass and nuts his new outfit is stripped
@@coolsvilleowner I feel like he was only fighting crime because he wanted people to be better than him
He was a drug dealer...a low life, he wanted to show other drug dealers that that isn't a good life to live and that you risk getting beaten or even DYING
He didn’t give a shit about making a difference, as could be seen in his denigration of those who wanted to uplift their community by handing out food. He was a grifter who enjoyed street fights and looking cool, nothing more. Everything else is carefully crafted mythology to feed the grift.
This is so.... bizarre??? I had never even heard of this culture of real life superheroes until now and now that i am hearing about it, its all so surreal. Fantastic video.
They’re an interesting lot, that’s for sure.
Same here. I only remember the occasions where two different guys had dressed up as Batman. One defended people against clowns during that ridiculous 2016 incident, while the other visited sick children in hospitals and such, sadly the latter past away a few years ago. This whole 'underground vigilante' thing seems so surreal.
@Transhumanist Cult Awareness Network Superbarrio was the first real life superhero
ever heard of Kairo Sanjiro the Light Rail Samurai? check out Wang's video on him. he was a much less capable version of Phoenix, & by that I mean he had zero former training & was armed with a Katana. a katana that he just carried around with him, like everywhere.
Phoenix Jones is a bad example, the rest of the community however are not
I am still confused. WHY did Phoenix Jones sell drugs? You can say, "To make money", but why did he do it when he was so against drug dealers? Did he simply stop caring? Did he gain a dislike for humanity? Did he never care in the first place? Did he think it wasn't wrong? WHY!?
He had good intentions just the wrong methods
Because it was never actually about "cleaning up the neighborhood" to him, it was his weird way of acquiring recognition and status. He also likes and needs money which selling drugs provides and he thought he could get away with both.
He never cared about crime. He cared about getting famous.
He was playing the role of hero to chase out other drug dealers that would take business away from him.
If I were a real life superhero I think selling drugs would actually be a good idea. Nothing strong, just weed or something to get you possible connections to bigger fish and rumors about stuff.
He's not a real life Batman, he's a real life Don Quixote. But instead of windmills it's crackheads and drunk people.
Im currently reading this book😂
"I am I; Phoenix Jones!"
YES! Precisely!
He's more like a real-life Crimson Bolt than anything. A guy who claims to be fighting for justice but in actuality, is just looking for an excuse to get into fights to vent his frustrations.
lmaoo
"The Sandwich Dealer" should have become Jones' nemesis.
Forward Synthesis superhero turned supervillain lol
Na man that should have became his new identity, the resurgence in popularity for his heel turn as the sandwich dealer would have been legendary, hitting the homeless with yae filled sandwiches XD
Jared Fogle in a mask
i think i just accidentally hopped into an alternate reality
No your in the the right one.
Yup we’re indeed in an alternate reality, finally 😄
That's how crazy that is
I thought this was a fake video I've lived near Seattle my whole life, worked in the city since 2012. Never heard of this guy.
Wait, this was released the day before April Fool's. Did I get pranked?
Imagine being a homeless dude who did the petty crime of stealing detergent only to get whooped by a half-rate Batman with a vlog.
Villain origin story
You explained batman but as a vloger.
@@Mewdo45 that’s the joke.
@@Mewdo45I mean I don't remember batman ever doing something like that besides for in those unfunny memes and shit
@@tVt2000"I'm not going to be some villain of the week anymore. I'm gonna crease your jays, Phoenix Jones."
The pace of your improvement has been staggering in every area of video production, and everything you've made along the way is thoroughly enjoyable. As long as you keep making, I'll keep watching.
Y'all should collab sometime :-)
@@cerealdust6770 That would be amazing!
hey fredrik, whens the next video? i need your documentaries :( or it could just be you playing animal crossing; its cool.
Hell yeah
Ayyyyy
The introduction of people in costumes handing out food and shoveling snow was so wholesome.. wished that was where it stayed
Yeah it's ironic how he was calling them the frauds
Yeah it's ironic how he was calling them the frauds
@@bestmimic Exactly, if he was only in for the cause he wouldn't make a big deal about how he's the real hero compared to everyone else
Well, you could always just do it, right? Become, and start, what you want in your community
In the immortal words of Blade
"Some Mofo is always trying to ice skate up hill"
“ A fools idea of glory is showing off “
- Bruce Lee
Bruce Lee was literally an actor in movies.
Great dude, but that quotes kinda weird
@@gamergod98l86 Bruce Lee was a real badass, And the face of martial arts
this guy try’s to show off and act like he’s a “somebody” and is a “show off”
@@gamergod98l86 That was the most aggressively passive aggressive statement I've seen in a long time.
Literally an actor. Really! Literally! That's something! You said something right there.
Then he's a great guy. Is he? You don't seem to like him for some reason.
But this quote was.. kinda weird. I'll bet! Why was it weird, Tannen? Or is your name Bryce?
You sound very sheltered.
@@alanfike It was a hypocritical statement coming from him.
@@gamergod98l86 , well, he never said he didn't show off. But we can assume that, unless he thought of himself a fool, he did not consider acting his glory.
Being a hero isn't about beating up bad guys, it shouldn't be. It's about helping people and seeing the good in humanity. Putting others before yourself because everyone deserves it. Looking down on people handing out food to those who need it is being a hero.
Everyone forgets Spider-Man volunteered in a soup kitchen.
@@calmexit6483 exactly. Even Batman founded various charities as Bruce Wayne. I feel like anyone who defines being a hero as beating people up for clout is kinda naive at best and a narcissist at worst.
"I USED TO LOOK UP TO YOU!
And you just THREW IT ALL AWAY!!!"
-spiderman
Reminds me of Captain Marvel’s resignation speech in Justice League Unlimited
@@starminer7z746 You mean Shazam!
@@nathanieldiaz5254 he was captain marvel at the time
@@SomeGlasses During the early days of Billy Batson in DC after Fawcett?
@@nathanieldiaz5254 he has used both names throughout the comics, and Shazam is the more popular name for him because of Marvel's hero sharing the other name with him.
He became a superhero to take out his competition, its brilliant.
Holy fuck thats smart
Brilliant comment lmao
That’s the start of a very well written villain. Honestly sounds like a Spider-Man or Batman villain
He pulled an ozymandias
A reverse green hornet
14:00 I was NOT expecting that hairstyle
I remember thinking this when I watched the footage the day it dropped so long ago. Like this dude was a live action cartoon.
ive noticed some black people nowadays are rocking that flat top straight outta like 1991 lol
I fucking miss Etika man... 😔😔😔
@@veryexciteddog963 for real man
VERY Excited Doggo me too bro
Trying to hold a straight face while saying "he loads a cannon with capsation easter eggs and rock salt" is legendary
He seems like a character that would be on “the boys” lol
The good news is that Phoenix Jones seems to be the black sheep of IRL supes. I don't want to see what would happen if things got more chaotic. I already read that story and I didn't like the ending.
No, out of watchmen
Fredy Joshua doesn’t watchmen take place in an alternate 1985?
@@fredyjoshua8698 there's no fucking difference both are the same fucking genre
@Stevie Wonder Exactly that is what this is based after.
Phoenix had a pretty self serving attitude for someone who styled himself as a hero. This honestly seems like more of a personal fantasy than anything else for him.
ok cool
It’s still a notable effort though. It takes heart to go out in the street picking fights with people that could possibly kill him. I sure wouldn’t do this.
Back when I 1st heard about jones a decade ago I thought he was clearly more egotistical than anything else but still well meaning and I like to think he was well intentioned at the onset but who knows
I feel like melodrama and power fantasies hiding behind humanitarian (or "conservative") concerns is a widespread attitude those days. See how everybody tries to make themselves a hero now, through hashtags, donations, or anything instead of concentrating on the act itself. Fodor is not so much a weirdo than a product of our time. A self-absorbed comic nerd, but for CHARITY.
MKGE exactly. It goes right along with the Virtue Signaling and self serving attitude that masks a lot of popular issues of this day and age.
As silly as it sounds, it would be kinda terrifying as a criminal seeing Phoenix Jones speeding towards you
Depends what you have on you. 😉
I think anyone charging at you would be pretty terrifying ngl
@@abbycantrell1369 true lol
@513_cloud withoutwater 👨🏻💻”I’d beat the fuck out of him”
@@guy8643 lmfao he could try
I find it interesting that Phoenix looked down on "sandwich handling" superheros and saw himself as superior for fighting crime directly.
Its interesting because the ideology behind the sandwich handlers, proactive means to help the community and thus reduce crime, is directly opposed Jones' ideology which is to react to existing crime without addressing its roots causes.
I find it funny that the police detested Jones so much because ideological, the both believe in the violent reactionary approach to crime.
crime will still happen even if addressed beforehand.
@@honestkyn718 American ? Crime happens anyway and police is not a magic tool that can stop a crime before is committed , but u can reduce crimes to a minimum directly addressing the root of the issue
@@ashenone3050 Yes i am American. And yes, you can REDUCE crime, maybe, but you will still need cops to react to it as you cannot prevent it from happening entirely.
Some people are just bad people.
@@honestkyn718 I didn’t say u don’t knew cops , just that cops are not the solution to crime , just a temporal patch
@@ashenone3050 There is no solution to crime.
There's preventive, and there's reactive, but neither can solve the core issue of the fact some people are just bad people.
There's so much going on in this story, I can imagine a Tiger King-esque seven episode deep dive into the world of real life superheores
literally my exact thought was the next tiger king style docuseries from netflix
I'd watch it, the superhero movement was fascinating to see
i bet he never read modern Daredevil, being a hero is a thankless, hard life, and the consequences can be both physically and mentally taxing, if not worse
Yea, they had a RUclips vid' about how long Batman could reasonably be Batman, and it was like 3-4 years TOPS! Hell, in Dark Knight Rises his body is fucked at the start of the movie and he'd already been retired for a few years!
@@nurse425 you got a link for it? it sounds interesting
@@nurse425 Very true actually because he was Batman for 3 years max before retiring for 10 then coming back for Rises.
Or like, any Spider-Man story ever
Jennifer Pyrce In the comics he started travelling the world and training when he was 14
His story turned from "Kick-Ass" to "The Boys"
Well yes but the boys is about a lot of rape not drug dealing
@@the-dramatic-nerd yes but "the boys" Ig is like the reality of how fucked up superheroes actually can be. Idk just my opinion🤙🏽😁
It's like the boys in the most surface level way possible
Hah another commenter said that too! 🤣
You mean from Mr.bean to Mystery men
A great example of the problem with vigilantism. The fact that he considers feeding the hungry a poor example of heroism tells it all. He was just a narcissist with delusions of grandeur who really wanted a justification for his sociopathic violent tendencies.
Much thanks to all the real heroes out there who believe in kindness towards their fellow people.
And to think that he rejected applications of people with "violent tendencies" that drive-by really got to him in a deep rooted way
Like it or not, he and his team were put in situations where violence was necessary, and may well have saved lives. Violence, and the capacity to inflict it, is very valuable in emergency situations
@@fronthal157Like it or not, comics about flying men in tights do not reflect real life. And good luck becoming a real hero with that attitude- it's like you didn't even watch this video...
@@hamishwhitehenderson5197 regardless of your opinions on the man, he and his team helped people. And on what fucking earth did I claim to be a hero? What relevance does that have? Hell, I pray that I'm never required to be a hero. That would require someone to be put in danger in the first place.
@@fronthal157 "were put in" really seems to imply that they weren't engaging in vigilantism by choice. Are they literally plastic people that some giant was just randomly putting into little dioramas of Seattle?
No one ever empowered them to take the law into their hands and there are a variety of legal and ethical reasons behind why society has to consent to be "policed."
He accepted his destiny and became “The Dark Phoenix”
And now I have Rick James/Dave Chappelle in my head "DARKKKNESSSSSS" - now darkness the table are turnnnned!
@@vafixer8885 sh*t now I want a parody sketch with Dave Chappelle as Phoenix
😆😆😆😆😆
LOL
@David Lindsay sure.
Phoenix Jones: I'm declaring war on anyone who sells drugs to the community
Also Phoenix Jones: But Phoenix, I sell drugs to the community!
You aint shit LOL!!! FUNNY BLACK DYNAMITE
I laughed at that from the other room!
HAHAHAH!
BRILLIANT!
Spider-Man meme pointing at himself
Punctuation correction.
"But Phoenix; I sell drugs to thr community !"
Real heroes are the ones who don't do it for the frame and glory. Real heroes are the ones who are brave enough to stand up and do the right thing. Most times, you never notice them.
Ye that's kinda the point.
And yet superman is always smiling for the cameras and giving some corny ass speech.
This is not always true.
What is true, however, is that *real* *heroes* do the right thing, even during the times when nobody is watching or they don't get anything in return.
@@magdalenecastillo2905 The others are no better....
Batman is all angsty & "gloom and doom", Wonder woman acts tough nearly all the time, and Martian Manhunter tries to make everything look deep.
I like Flash though. He doesn't take himself too seriously and he cracks jokes while smiling for the camera ;)
Heroes are nothing but a means to the end what this world is truly lacking is pain, true pain. Order for endless peace the weak Must Fall and the strong must be consumed
i like how the main argument of authority figures against superhero wannabes boils down to "the only costumed weirdos who don't know what they're doing should be cops"
underrated comment
13:57 I’m amazed at how he can keep that high top fade disguised under his mask. Reminds me of Miles Morales in Into the Spider-Verse.
"Mom I want to read Watchmen."
"We have Watchmen at home."
Watchmen at home:
DreamzPanda Mom: That book is to mature for you. Maybe when you get older like your brother.
This isn't watchmen this is kickass
Jhalen Hanshaw *too
Did the characters in watchmen ever have lots of cameras following them? You know that's actually a smart thing. I have no idea what kind of person phoenix is i never met him or anything but having cameras around is actually more of a safety measure than anything. It provides proof in case anyone ever tries to frame him or say he did anything that he didn't do etc etc. Also, if one of the goals was to inspire others, it would be almost necessary to have some kind of social media activity.
Piddy yes, it went from Kick-Ass to The Boys...
the girl who said he "looked like count chocula" is my personal hero that's the funniest thing ive ever heard
he’d be a better superhero if he just handed out count chocula to people
@@PartnershipsForYou Bruh he’d already have a religion if he did that.
People who hand out food and stuff to the people who need it are definitely heros.
Good parents are heroes imo
The team behind Tiger King needs to do this as their next series.
Would be nuts. Probably not as large scale tho
Pleeaase ill subscribe to netflix for the rest if my life if this happens
@nathaniel gray Have you SEEN Netflix lately? Its Raw Ass they need some quality content
Lol
@@SaltedMallows and thats not even mentioning that they literally have CP on there
His origin story sounds exactly like a comic book. He finds that his car has been broken into, his son hurts himself, he uses the mask of the person who committed crimes to stop crimes. He could have been a legend.
His whole story seems like a comic book, it even the twist at the end.
I don’t think having your car broken into is a good origin lol.
having your car being broken in doesn't seem like a great origin tbh.
Even the first few outings having missteps and failures and embarrassment feels straight out of like daredevil or something
Retrax CraEZy grew up in orphanages apparently , turned into a teacher for mentally disabled kids , got his car broke into with a mask lying on his seat and his kid got hurt , he already was aware of the huge crime rate in his city , that was the final straw to become a masked vigilante... pretty cool origin story for a real life “superhero” haha
This new Watchmen reboot looks really good.
I know right
@Trantor The Troll Heheh that's funny. You are a good joke. :)
God the HBO miniseries was utter garbage. I couldn't watch the whole thing because I was pissed.
@@theactualTVB Uh it wasn't a reboot.
dante wilson
>doesn't call the 2019 miniseries a reboot
>another film came out ten years prior
Bruh
According to Mantis, he did receive his ballistic vest directly from Phoenix, but made the mistake of selling it to make ends meet with the intention of buying it back once he had his finances in order. By the time he returned to the pawn shop, it was gone, and he quit shortly thereafter to avoid further conflict
Imagine you go out to buy 2 grams of weed and a crew of superheroes comes and takes it lol
Weed's been legal in Seattle for a while.
Who buys 2 grams of weed? Lol get a job
@@austins.2495 , holy non-sequitir, Batman!
Who drinks a whole gallon of milk in one sitting? Get off my land!
And then sells it back to you
Ahhahaha I visually saw ur comment play in my head. Thank you
Me: Can I wach Kick-Ass?
Mom: We have Kick-Ass at home
Kick-Ass at home:
Especially if you live in Seattle
I Kick Ass cuz im a Boss ass kick
the live stream version
So Like when Kick-ass the movie came out this became so much more prevalent...
Yupp
@Hondo the Razor It had the opposite effect of what it intended
Remember watchmen also came around the same period
This is way more interesting than kickass
@Hondo the Razor it was a comic book long before it was a movie.
That rise and fall is both truly depressing and haunting. I imagine many of these vigilantes were good people who wanted to help their community somehow. That's where these ideas come from to begin with.
The thing that Phoenix Jones failed to understand or neglected was that heroes are more than just people who fight thugs. They are the sandwich givers, the medical assistance, the snow shovelers, the caped crusaders who rescue pets, the detectives, etc. They are many things, and back in the day, that's what comic book heroes were. They were people, sometimes with special abilities or inhuman features, that allowed them to help people though often with hidden identities.
Crime fighting was simply one of those things that over time became the most popular simply because it was the most action packed and interesting. Nowadays it seems to be the only thing "Heroes" do in the comics.
Hell, heroes didn't even have "arch enemies" or "Super Villains" back in the day. The only reason they exist is to give a persistent challenging opponent to the crime fighting heroes, thus allowing the maker to milk the Super Villain and the Super Hero dry by escalating their confrontations more and more.
If Phoenix Jones had simply stuck to his work of protecting the innocent and breaking up fights/deescalating fights, he would've remained incredibly popular. Furthermore, had he avoided being shady and hating against simpler heroes, his organisation could've carried more weight as a legit vigilante organisation that provided the tools and legal defences to all types of heroes, be it simple sandwich givers and crime fighters.
It's as they say tho; you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain... at least if you're a crime fighter.
When would you say comic heroes stopped doing anything other than fight supervillains? 1986?
@@valgorie1811I’d say that they still do it, a lot of times though it’s glossed over. For example Bruce Wayne used to spend a LOt of money on Gotham. And still does depending on the writer
Born and raised in Seattle here. Met Phoenix out on the streets once while I was barhopping in Capitol Hill. Read the news about him getting arrested after pepper spraying the dancers and figured that was it, that it was over. Never heard ANY of the stuff after. Thank you for the fascinating deep dive!
Same, met him on cap hill once. He did kind of fall off my radar, sad story but glad to see it told
As someone from all the way across the pond, the pepper spraying the dancers was the last thing I heard too, completely forgot about him after that. So yeah to hear all this "new" stuff is fascinating.
I feel like I just walked into an alternate reality, I've never heard of any of these people and somehow they were on fox news, national news, video games and even Joe Rogan and i had no idea
Yea well maybe you’re just stupid
@@sterlinggutierrez5240 Dude your name is sterling, you literally cannot have an opinion on anything ever because of that. God, Sterling is such a fucking dumbass pussy name.
@Electro_blob 2 I've always been into superheroes and shit similar to this like Watchmen, The Boys and Kickass and I have never heard of this until today. Fucking weird man
Lmaoooooo bro I’m crying at this comment
I see the double morality of this comment section, first insult bad, second insult good, even if it’s the same, but yea sterling is an stupid name
He literally started the Civil War from Marvel. The registration shit. It’s crazy. This is REAL LIFE! This is real LIFE! Then he turned to the dark side. This shit is crazy.
Life really does imitate art
Joycon Boyz 🙏
@Jbone Philly i said this imitated what happened. Not that it came first, you dingus
thats the most stupid and awsome story in the world that i ever heard, is like one of my favorites comic book stories is real life, like kick ass, the boys, civil war, ultimates, is like the greates movie in real life.
Facts
If a bunch of people come out saying "I always knew he was doing that" or "he's been doing that for years, everybody knows" you have to wonder why they didn't bother saying anything about it until *after* the arrest.
Cuz then you’re labeled a rat or snitch. It’s ridiculous.
I'm sure a lot or at least some of the accounts are true; but it's the internet, so it would be safe to assume some of it was bandwagon "me too" to fuel a fire or it was hearsay which is unreliable as evidence unfortunately... Can't be perfectly certain
For all we know he was doing that shit from day one, but got cocky and sloppy when things fell apart with his team when they realized what he was doing
@@petermontgomery638 I'm sure that some of them are true, too. But, by question still stands: why didn't you say something earlier if you knew the law was being broken?
Pack of bigly, manly men too scared to say something until after it's all over.
@@aaronleverton4221 I would guess that it's to do with things that can't be substantiated by anyone willing to do so.
It probably was that some few people bought drugs from Phoenix Jones. Those people had some proof of his dealings but would not exactly turn to the police. They might tell some friends though. A local "do-gooder" celebrity turns out to be your dealer? That's an interesting story. Now those friends don't have any proof other than that story, and they probably don't want to rat on their friends either, so they aren't going to the police. They might tell their friends though, although they might not say how they heard that Phoenix was a dealer, since that too would rat on their friend. So now you have a story that is going to spread without any way to substantiate it.
If they knew, they are as good as villains.
I used to respect this guy, but knowing he sold drugs is really disheartening.
Also, attacking drunks dressed as a Bibleman color swap is kinda funny
I never knew this guy existed but when I saw the thumbnail I thought it had something to do with bibleman at first
"Bibleman color swap" is the best comment to come out of this video lmao
Oh god! the bibleman's buldge!
I thought i was the only one who noticed he looked like Bible Man lmao.
This was an incredibly tragic story and it's weird to see how spot on the comics that mimic or satirize this subject matter are. i was expecting Jones to "die a hero", but what i got was a lot more sad.
This is probably the best real life comic book story
He was never really a hero
@white dom exactly
I mean as much as he deserved his criticisms I can't help but pity the guy. I don't think colorfully costumed vigilantes are at all a viable solution to crime rates in this world but I do sincerely think somewhere along the lines he really was trying to make a difference.
when your custom character is in a cutscene
Based on Midnight Jack’s comments, I don’t think Phoenix Jones was a con artist from the beginning. I think he had a misguided dream from the beginning: 50% wanting to help people and 50% wanting to live out a fantasy.
But it seems clear that when his wife and friend left him, they knew there was something wrong with him and he was going down a dark path.
He wasn't trying to stop drug dealers on the street, he was getting rid of the competition on his patch.
ShallowDepression lol😂
Makes you wonder if he would also stoop so low as to roofied the women he saved too...
this guy it’s not that hard to imagine honestly with all the media giving him attention and talking about him as a hero it would give him the impression that he could do anything and get away with it
No idiot
@@animephase9165 English only please.
22:50 - 24:00 Phoenix Jones Villans List:
Crazy yet snarky business-man
The Fashoniably Late Grim Reaper
And of course,
*_Your average gang member_*
I GOT A NEW *POTION* THATS GON TURNDE WHOLE WORLD AGAINST YOU
@@treesaregreen by God the madman did it, he succeeded where all others failed
@@treesaregreen oh god
*Looks like the potion worked*
@@Ysumbruh0 Damn...
a lot of people are saying how he started out as a good guy who fell from grace but I don't think he was really ever a good guy. Even at the very start he was shunning other superheroes for giving food to the homeless and calling it "inaction" even though those people were doing a lot more good for their community than he ever did. Shoveling snow or feeding the homeless isn't performative enough for him, he'd rather chase down a homeless shoplifter for stealing detergent. It's really obvious that from the start this was just about getting attention from playing hero, if he really cared about helping his community he wouldn't shun people for feeding the homeless. He realistically didn't serve any real purpose that the police didn't already serve, the people giving food to the homeless were more likely fulfilling a role that wasn't already being fulfilled (at least as much as it needed to be) I don't think it's all that heroic to fight people on the street for attention
He never called it inaction, he thought (and was kind of right) that giving people sandwiches makes you a good person but it does not make you a hero, there needs to be element of risk for an act to be considered heroism
@@JM-mh1pp That's a coward's view of bravery LOL. Shows how sad he really is, heroism is any action that creates a difference that is needed in a person's life. A hero is an always will be a subjective role that is determined not by the heroic, but those they help. Only narcissistic types, who are by their nature incapable of heroism, think that it has to be defined by some action hero image.. they only see the superficial aspects of heroism.
@@azarinevil
Is he really a coward? Didnt he risk his life and safety quite often?
@SLAMO legit cringe
@@juhppug3873 That doesn't make you brave, it can just be a result of other emotions. Phoenix Jones was anger and ego, narcissists aren't actually capable of courage as normal people see it. They are so insecure at their core that everything is done for the wrong reasons. That's why even now, after being busted a drug dealer, Phoenix still sees himself as the "real" hero, despite being a fraud.
I remember reading about Phoenix guy in a local newspaper. It's written "Muscular guy wearing a costum, broke a fight using pepper spray, got arrested". I'm not even American
Well, this was a ride! I remember seeing him in the international news section back in the day and thinking "woah, that's super cool! A real life superhero!". As an adult now, I can't help but think "This man probably has some issues to work on". I appreciate the way he went from "reckless antihero" to "okay, gotta abide the law", though.
It's sad that he had that illegal side hustle, and we can only speculate about the possible reasons he had to do it.
Thank you very much for uploading another interesting video, AG!
The reasons why he dealt drugs where probably the obvious ones: Money. I doubt he had stable income after his real name become public. The video stated that he lost his daycare job, and I gotta wonder if he was able to get employment after that since any potential employee would see be able to find his side hobby using google.
He did it to eliminate competition
I also was wondering why he was selling drugs. He was so against drug dealers, so why would he become one?
Just checked his instagram and he's recently come out of retirement.
Phoenix Jones 2
Electric boogaloo
Holy shit, really?
Like that one batman movie
Isn't he in prison tho
he took down the chaz
Phoenix Jones seems to take most of his influence from Batman, with the focus of gadgets, climbing buildings, and even the very clear Nightwing inspiration for the costume.
What I think he fails to understand about Batman is that in the many stories of the caped crusader, Batman fights crime to protect innocent people, while Jones fights criminals for the purpose of punishing them. He doesn't view heroism as a form of community service and spirit, but as a form of managing an unstable amount of anger and hatred while under considerable limelight. This is a very unstable man who should have never donned the cowl in the first place.
he’s a glorified cop lmao
Batman also has a secret lair like phoniex jones does in the comic store behind the book shelf.
Phoenix Jones makes me think more of Rorschach from Watchmen including his questionable morals and ethics and his actions.....
@@HolyGoddessMotherAnne As someone who loves Watchmen to death, I wouldn't necessarily equate him to Rorschach. Rorschach at least had understandable motivation and we could sympathize with him somewhat, despite some of his reprehensible views and disgusting character. He wasn't a good guy, but there were nuances to him that made him compelling. I can't say the same for Phoenix Jones, since he did it more for the thrill of it and to beat people up. On the topic of Watchmen, he's like a combo of The Comedian and Nite Owl II more than anything else.
@@chickensoupboi As a fellow fan of Watchmen yeah you are right,on second thought he does remind me of them.
This guy just has straight up dilutions of grandeur, he has these requirements for “joining” his crew like combat training yet he seems to employ pepper spray more often then anything. He talks down on “sandwitch hero’s” which such a act seems small but can have a massive impact on people who are so downtrodden. (I personally was gifted food when I was very young with no money and I will NEVER forget such kindness) his whole super hero career just seems like a ego trip.
Delusions. Dilutions means that you're diluting something, deluding means you're fooling yourself.
@@moomyung9231 To be fair, his "heroic" intent is indeed diluted with grandeur. This is a malapropism that actually makes sense given the context.
@@mrRPGamersno it doesn't make sense at all
I used to keep a Costco size box of granola bars in my car to give to ppl asking for money at stoplights. To my surprise, about half of those folks didn’t want the food at all. They would take it anyways. I guess bcuz they felt obligated. There was this one time tho, there was a lady off of the hwy. She looked absolutely defeated. When I stopped and held the granola bars out the window, her face lit up with a smile and she thanked me over and over. I’ll never forget that
“A real hero is someone who is concerned about other peoples well being, and will go out of their way to help them- even if there is no chance of reward.
That person who helps others simply because it should or must be done, and because it is the right thing to do, is without a doubt, a real super hero.”
-stan lee
he did it even if they wouldn't save him
And that's the real deal. If we're helping each other, there is less need to act desperately
Stan Lee was mentally disabled and insane you can't take anything he says as true
so not phoenix jones
Imagine being tweaked out of your mind and trying to get your fix when all of a sudden the Sense of Right Alliance comes in and starts beating your dealer’s ass.
Everyone's here! We got Batman, Superman, Sh-shrek? A car...?
Lmao danger dolan vibes
@@suicidalloafofbread2009 ooohhh noooo...
Wow that's a deep pull lol.
@@suicidalloafofbread2009 don’t forget a power ranger
There was a guy in Nashville that did something similar, except he tried to break up fights by hitting everyone with a flagpole. He was arrested and charged with aggravated battery
I love how civilians think every Veteran is a highly trained and skilled killer.
Yeah that Airman in S1 (basically HR) is a real killer.
Even amongst the Army and Marines, not everyone is a Sniper, Recon, Ranger, Super Soldier, Shuttle door gunner, etc.
"You look like Count Chocula" Lmfao I can't believe you glossed over that
Surprised he didn’t quit right there
This is inspiring me, not to be a superhero, but to give food out to homeless people.
That what Superheroes do they make people want to be better and do better
BEST comment. 👍🏽
Sandwich handler
Super sandwich handler >>>> pepper sprayer
Pure
It’s weird to think that this concept COULD work in real life but, you’d both have to be crazy enough to try it, and sane enough to not do it like Phoenix Jones
I know right. In concept, its plausible but its very risky.
it would totally work, just sadly, phoenix jones took advantage of the fame, and that’s kinda rule number one of being a vigilante: don’t reveal your identity under any circumstances
I know right
@@thatsideofyoutbe don’t think you wanna reveal to everybody on youtube that you’re gonna do it bro.
@@vagabond8460 why
I genuinely miss Rex Velvet. He really hit that perfect sweet spot of classical supervillainy. Totally would have been onboard with him as the star of a web series detailing his nefarious schemes.
His Twitter is semi active, retweeting/tweeting once every year
@@pqcowboychanel Dope
I died when the girl called him Count Chocula.
Lol same. I'm glad someone else caught that
Phoenix Jones isn’t the hero we needed.
But he is the villain we deserve.
Quiet Time Gaming cause we need drugs
The McDonald's toy you've been waiting for
he's just a delusional nut with nothing better to do, very unecessary, doesn't change anything
I feel like the RUclips comment section is where deviants can vent. Don't you?
How ?
These guys "saved" me more than once on severely drunken nights before. I truly appreciate them. Will come back after I'm done with video!
Alex D-G Yea let’s hear the story!
Yeah I wanna know too.
Well I blacked out and I guess I passed out in the middle of a park so they picked me up and placed me next to my friend who was also blacked out on the stoop of a friends apt building so they could find us. If it weren't for them all of my stuff would have been stolen and god knows what else.
I had no clue who put us there til I woke up and saw them all clad in their out fits they came by to check on us and make sure we were okay I thanked them and just had to make sure it was all real lol. I thought they were the coolest people. I also found out someone I knew was a part of their squad but I dont wanna put him on blast since I think he still does this
Of course!
This really was a tragedy. The idea of superheroes irl sounded good on panel covered paper, but it only went downhill in reality. Things went from Batman and Kickass to Watchmen and The Boys way too soon...
Are you serious? It never sounded good.
@@remix4098 it could have been ok. If it had just stuck to the "sandwich handler" style of superheroing.
@@masedaace5473 lol
this man has a better origin story than most actual comic book characters
Way better than "internet gas"
@Ben only Eats popeyes Touché
@tyrone kinard pheonix jones or internet gas?
@@donaldronson1387 Or a backpack that contains infinite Twinkies you found in the Lost Bin during your shift at the senior center😹
his ending leaves a lot to be desired tbh
It’s like watching Hancock in reverse
FinDoesPK It's rewind time!
@@gamesmithy LMAO
More like kick ass 2 on fast forward
Sucks that people think violence is the only true form of heroism. Stopping fights from escalating is heroic, not starting them.
Okay, but they also did a lot of that.
You can not fight tigers if you are not scarier than them
@@Cerdo_asqueroso damn, apparently every zookeeper who calms down the big cats, is actually physically equal to them. Who knew?
Umm thats exactly what he did did you not pay any attention to the video?
@@Cerdo_asqueroso not to be literal larry and derail your metaphor but zoo keepers who handle tigers and other apex predators don’t work off of fear as it would have them killed. they form personal bonds with each individual animal and create a positive association with themselves through positive reinforcement training/classical conditioning. to get to my point, this approach of calmness and non violence can and should be applied to every difficult individual we come across in our lives.
I remember telling my mom about him when I was a kid several years ago. I said “Hey mom do you know there are real superheros that go around and save people!?” And she said “Yes and they are called doctors and firefighters!” I dismissed what she said back then because I was excited about the idea of masked superheroes becoming real. But in the end she was right. Those are the real superheros. They make it their life’s work to save people and unlike these guys they don’t do it for publicity.
"In spite of everything you've done for them, eventually they will hate you."
In this case is more like...dissapointment
Man, I’m crying reading these comments 😂
Sounds like Batman 😁
@@lolobuto1608 I'm sorry but perhaps you didn't get the reference
I mean he sold crack and became a criminal himself...
i think that the fact that he unmasked himself proved he was just an attention seeker looking for a fight
Id he may have done that cause he was already doxxed by the court. The fact that he didnt get involved with any of the attention shows he may have been just a nutter.
he was forced to smartass
i mean fighting crime for free? man had legit MMA skills an had to cash on that to help his cause. w.e. it was.
the police said he either had to reveal his identity or retire his superhero career
He was a bully.
Plot twist, he got caught selling drugs on purpose in order to create a more dark and badass back story.
Rayzorbladez he’s not called Phoenix for nothing lol. Wait a second is this the Dark Phoenix saga?
Selling drugs isn't very badass.
@@DevineInnovations okay buddy? lmao I wasnt aware you were god and could choose whats "badass" and what isn't.
@@HoboAKAHottFuzz Come on, anybody can sell drugs.
@@HoboAKAHottFuzz Selling drugs is not bad ass though it's a piece of shit thing to do.