Efke 25 was a favourite emulsion of mine. I used to shoot it in 8x10 (developed in Pyrocat-HD), until it was discontinued. Not only silver rich, it had decent reciprocity, and Alt. printed really well. I shot the last sheet of 8x10 a few years ago, but I have one box of 4x5 that I'm slowly working my way through.
Very cool! I’ve never shot anything bigger than 120 but I’d love to one day. Speaking of reciprocity I just remembered I have some rolls of original Acros in the fridge I must shoot! Thanks for watching 😊🙏
@ I was wondering how it ages. I'm pretty sure it wasn't frozen or cold stored. Only one way to find out! I did get a bunch of IR filters with the lot tho.
I had some experience with the original Adox KB films in around 1959-61. The three films had been around since the early 1950s. They were very sharp, using a vey thin emulsion coating technology, which was the only way films got that characteristic at the time. As one consequence, they were slow, usually less than ASA (ISO) 100. In fact, the fastest Adox film at 100 was nothing special compared to others of similar speed. The mid-speed Adox film was quite similar in performance to Panatomic-X, then rated at ASA 32. Even in a major city (Seattle), Adox film was not commonly available, and pre-internet mail-order was minimal compared to today. Adox films were readily available in bulk rolls, however, and very cheaply, which at 15 drew my attention. I went through a couple of 27 foot bulk rolls of the mid-speed Adox film at the time (about $12 in 1960 dollars), but then shifted to Kodak Plus-X. The photos in the video seem to exhibit a serious compression of the highlights, lacking tonal separation. That was a common characteristic of this type of film back then, although I do not recall it being as extreme as shown here. Perhaps these are partly due to this development and/or scanning technique as well. That you could float the emulsion right off the film base with careless processing was the norm for all films back then, as in 1960, we were still a couple of years before Kodak started incorporating "pre-hardening" into its emulsions, immediately followed by most others. While some may wish a return to "the old days of film", the facts are that modern films preform far better at a given speed than 1950-60 film, owning to various technology advancements, even if you do not include T-grain tech in the comparison.
Wow thanks so much for the detailed info! I love hearing about the history of different films. Very interesting point about the tonal separation. I don’t shoot much black and white but every time I do I want to shoot more. Would also love to get back into home development but perhaps with a modern film that’s a bit easier to handle ha ha. Thanks for watching! 😊🙏
@@MattLovesCameras B&W home processing was a bit more challenging in 1960 compared to today, but at 14, I managed it in my home bathroom (to the regret of my mother), so it was doable. Since there was no scanning or computer "post", technical success was more challenging for optical enlargements, but with Kodak publishing endless guides and hobby magazines performing a real educational service, anyone who wanted to do it had access. There was almost no home color processing. Kodachrome never was. Kodak did not support Ektachrome or Kodacolor (negative color) home processing. However, from the mid 1950s, Ansco sold home process kits to do their Anscochrome. That was a transparency film, probably similar in technology to (if not literally compatible with) Ektachrome. (*) It's color was nearly as good as Kodak color films, and the home process angle and its higher film speed options sustained it into the late 1970s. Home processing of color blew up in the early 1970s, as independent producers of home color processing kits entered the market, Unicolor being the most prominent in the US. Kodak started supporting home processing of color sometime in the 1970s, but the efforts seemed more directed at small, local lab s than real "at home". Since selling Kodak film and processing was the cash cow, it is understandable that Kodak dragged its corporate feet through this period. (*) Agfa in Germany developed chromogenic color film technology in the 1930s with good results. (Check the on-line color films of Nazi parades.) Kodak started developing a similar film for the military during World War II. After the War, the US seized Agfa's color film patents and technical information as war booty and gave them over to Kodak, giving Kodak access to Agfa's technology and avoiding any patent infringement claims against Kodak. Kodak launched the original Ektachrome shortly after the War.
This roll of film has been mailed all over the world. Haha. It was a nice suprise seeing Alex Luyckx on your channel. That guy knows his developers! I've even reached out to him for advice about developing some film from the 1950's
On a day where I spent a couple of hours standing outside in the cold at work to assist garbage trucks delivering waste to the non-recyclable waste furnaces at the power plant, where I'm employed, it's nice to come home to photos like these. Nicely done both of you.
Ah wow that sounds pretty chilly NP! Glad you enjoyed the photos! It’s so hot here I was outside at 8am and the sun was fierce. I will have to wait until the sun goes down to mow the back yard, the grass has gone crazy with all the sun and rain.
@@MattLovesCameras It could be worse - we're having mild weather at the moment, but yeah, not my favorite thing to do at work. Hopefully you have a good mower, that can chew up the wild grass fast and painless.
Hi ya Matt, did you use any filter on the lens ? They just seem a bit flat to me or is that a charateristic of the film? I like the use of the palms as frames, we are blessed with beaches in Oz.
G’day! Yes I know what you mean, not sure what the issue is exactly. No filter on the lens and I shot the film at box speed. The roll of Amalia I recently reviewed had a bit more punch to it for sure. Yea so many good beaches! Those straddie beaches are so close yet so far 😂 the car ferry is expensive. Thanks for watching 😊🙏
This is a slightly more modern version of my late Dad’s favourite film. It used to be Adox KB14 with 14 coming from the old German DIN film speed system. He used to develop it in the Beutler heritage developer that he mixed himself. This developer is high accutance, enhancing the sharpness. I have three rolls of KB14 that expired in 1965 and they are still usable. A truly amazing film but not great for winter in the UK!
Oh wow very cool Mark! When I saw it had a 2014 date I thought given this is B&W this will be no problem shooting now. Amazing to hear 60 year old film is still going strong! Thankfully there’s lots of light here for these slow films. Thanks for watching 😊🙏
To the American viewers: Cleveland, the neighbourhood just outside of Brisbane. In Australia. Not "Cleveland, Ohio". :) Informative film review: thanks! :)
Efke 25 was a favourite emulsion of mine. I used to shoot it in 8x10 (developed in Pyrocat-HD), until it was discontinued. Not only silver rich, it had decent reciprocity, and Alt. printed really well. I shot the last sheet of 8x10 a few years ago, but I have one box of 4x5 that I'm slowly working my way through.
Very cool! I’ve never shot anything bigger than 120 but I’d love to one day. Speaking of reciprocity I just remembered I have some rolls of original Acros in the fridge I must shoot! Thanks for watching 😊🙏
I’m still miffed that those negatives went missing! Great shots and glad I could be a part of these! 🍻
Thanks so much for your help Alex, much appreciated!
@AlexLuyckxPhoto I recently aquired a fair amount of Efke IR820 film in 120 size. Would the same concerns about developing apply to this film as well?
@ Yes, also IR820 doesn’t age too well, but it is a true IR film so an R72 filter is a must!
@ I was wondering how it ages. I'm pretty sure it wasn't frozen or cold stored. Only one way to find out! I did get a bunch of IR filters with the lot tho.
Perfect excuse to find and shoot another roll!
I had some experience with the original Adox KB films in around 1959-61. The three films had been around since the early 1950s. They were very sharp, using a vey thin emulsion coating technology, which was the only way films got that characteristic at the time. As one consequence, they were slow, usually less than ASA (ISO) 100. In fact, the fastest Adox film at 100 was nothing special compared to others of similar speed. The mid-speed Adox film was quite similar in performance to Panatomic-X, then rated at ASA 32. Even in a major city (Seattle), Adox film was not commonly available, and pre-internet mail-order was minimal compared to today. Adox films were readily available in bulk rolls, however, and very cheaply, which at 15 drew my attention. I went through a couple of 27 foot bulk rolls of the mid-speed Adox film at the time (about $12 in 1960 dollars), but then shifted to Kodak Plus-X. The photos in the video seem to exhibit a serious compression of the highlights, lacking tonal separation. That was a common characteristic of this type of film back then, although I do not recall it being as extreme as shown here. Perhaps these are partly due to this development and/or scanning technique as well. That you could float the emulsion right off the film base with careless processing was the norm for all films back then, as in 1960, we were still a couple of years before Kodak started incorporating "pre-hardening" into its emulsions, immediately followed by most others. While some may wish a return to "the old days of film", the facts are that modern films preform far better at a given speed than 1950-60 film, owning to various technology advancements, even if you do not include T-grain tech in the comparison.
Wow thanks so much for the detailed info! I love hearing about the history of different films. Very interesting point about the tonal separation. I don’t shoot much black and white but every time I do I want to shoot more. Would also love to get back into home development but perhaps with a modern film that’s a bit easier to handle ha ha. Thanks for watching! 😊🙏
@@MattLovesCameras B&W home processing was a bit more challenging in 1960 compared to today, but at 14, I managed it in my home bathroom (to the regret of my mother), so it was doable. Since there was no scanning or computer "post", technical success was more challenging for optical enlargements, but with Kodak publishing endless guides and hobby magazines performing a real educational service, anyone who wanted to do it had access. There was almost no home color processing. Kodachrome never was. Kodak did not support Ektachrome or Kodacolor (negative color) home processing. However, from the mid 1950s, Ansco sold home process kits to do their Anscochrome. That was a transparency film, probably similar in technology to (if not literally compatible with) Ektachrome. (*) It's color was nearly as good as Kodak color films, and the home process angle and its higher film speed options sustained it into the late 1970s. Home processing of color blew up in the early 1970s, as independent producers of home color processing kits entered the market, Unicolor being the most prominent in the US. Kodak started supporting home processing of color sometime in the 1970s, but the efforts seemed more directed at small, local lab s than real "at home". Since selling Kodak film and processing was the cash cow, it is understandable that Kodak dragged its corporate feet through this period.
(*) Agfa in Germany developed chromogenic color film technology in the 1930s with good results. (Check the on-line color films of Nazi parades.) Kodak started developing a similar film for the military during World War II. After the War, the US seized Agfa's color film patents and technical information as war booty and gave them over to Kodak, giving Kodak access to Agfa's technology and avoiding any patent infringement claims against Kodak. Kodak launched the original Ektachrome shortly after the War.
This roll of film has been mailed all over the world. Haha. It was a nice suprise seeing Alex Luyckx on your channel. That guy knows his developers! I've even reached out to him for advice about developing some film from the 1950's
Yes it’s had quite a journey! Alex is super knowledgeable about all that stuff so I was very grateful for his help! Thanks for watching 😊🙏
So cool. Kudos to Alex.
Yes indeed! He did a great job. Thanks for watching!
On a day where I spent a couple of hours standing outside in the cold at work to assist garbage trucks delivering waste to the non-recyclable waste furnaces at the power plant, where I'm employed, it's nice to come home to photos like these.
Nicely done both of you.
Ah wow that sounds pretty chilly NP! Glad you enjoyed the photos! It’s so hot here I was outside at 8am and the sun was fierce. I will have to wait until the sun goes down to mow the back yard, the grass has gone crazy with all the sun and rain.
@@MattLovesCameras It could be worse - we're having mild weather at the moment, but yeah, not my favorite thing to do at work.
Hopefully you have a good mower, that can chew up the wild grass fast and painless.
Hi ya Matt, did you use any filter on the lens ? They just seem a bit flat to me or is that a charateristic of the film? I like the use of the palms as frames, we are blessed with beaches in Oz.
G’day! Yes I know what you mean, not sure what the issue is exactly. No filter on the lens and I shot the film at box speed. The roll of Amalia I recently reviewed had a bit more punch to it for sure. Yea so many good beaches! Those straddie beaches are so close yet so far 😂 the car ferry is expensive. Thanks for watching 😊🙏
@@MattLovesCameras maybe try a yellow or orange film to give the images a bit of punch & help separate the clouds.
@AlexLuyckxPhoto doing development right with an appropriate beverage😎. Couldn't of asked a better guy to do the developing. Nice images Matt.
Yes indeed! He’s a star 🌟 thanks for watching Darren! 😊🙏
This is a slightly more modern version of my late Dad’s favourite film. It used to be Adox KB14 with 14 coming from the old German DIN film speed system. He used to develop it in the Beutler heritage developer that he mixed himself. This developer is high accutance, enhancing the sharpness. I have three rolls of KB14 that expired in 1965 and they are still usable. A truly amazing film but not great for winter in the UK!
Oh wow very cool Mark! When I saw it had a 2014 date I thought given this is B&W this will be no problem shooting now. Amazing to hear 60 year old film is still going strong! Thankfully there’s lots of light here for these slow films. Thanks for watching 😊🙏
To the American viewers: Cleveland, the neighbourhood just outside of Brisbane. In Australia.
Not "Cleveland, Ohio".
:)
Informative film review: thanks! :)
Yes ha ha! Maybe one day I'll do a photo walk in the other Cleveland ha ha! Thanks for watching!
2012 💥 😒
2012?🤔