Female game developers make everything ugly
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Just to confirm: I'm not personally making any comments about BG3. I'm referencing an article someone else wrote about it. I don't know enough about the characters to have a meaningful opinion on their appearances or to judge them for being weird aliens haha.
I always get to the end of editing these videos and I'm like, "well, there is still more to say, but I think this will be enough torment for one video." 😂
Thank you for that Sydney. Regenerating those lost IQ points for the next video is wise 😁
ROFLMAO aspirated in less than 4 min 👍
If I'm in 3rd person, I want to watch my fine ass chicka all the time. If you're a chick watch your fine ass character. Or whatever. Nobody cares about your game in reality.
Sydney, you will never complete a video to absolute perfection. Aim for competent and correct and concise. Thanks for your hard work.
In Zero Dawn it was painfully obvious Aloy liked women.
The only good female character I could think of is the walking dead clementine and AC odyssey Kassandra.
Imagine if guys demanded all romance novel writers stop making their male characters attractive and instead required all male characters to be ugly, broke, 5 foot tall, overweight, cowardly, dumb and awkward.
They would become sitcoms
Really, it doesn't matter at all as long they have a huge cock
Tag: Ugly bastard.
Yep, checks out.
@@minitntman1236 dude 🤣🤣🤣
I feel like you are attacking me directly. 😢
"Hey, lets desexualize the female characters, that's progress! Also, Onlyfans is empowering."
Pick a lane, people.
"People"? Don't you mean "women" what ever that means?
You nailed it perfectly. 100%, really.
Note that in both "let's desexualize female characters" and "onlyfans is empowering", there's a distinct lack of "because" (nah, 'because I want it that way' doesn't count), and that can reconcile the two no problem. It's quite simple: "that goes against the interests of [the majority of] straight men".
@@Hisu0 actually "because I want that" sums up perfectly the real reason why they do that. It's not about a "because" it's about me being me wanting what I want, in a nutshell. I want to be the most beautiful one, the most adored one, I want everyone to serve under my heels - mostly males, but other beautiful women as well. Both men and beautiful women are rivals since they hold some power that I can't have (because I'm ugly, angry, and lazy), so they must be crushed, cancelled or controlled. It's just thirst for power, personal power, it all comes down to that.
Women jealous is the most cringe things, they would jealous with literally fictional character. Now.. Try imagine this kind women come to power they would make other ugly just for them prettier. Oh.. I forgot they already did it by making fatso and man women.
Amen. We don't play games for realistic body depictions, male or female.
Facts. 😂👌
I thought that we played games for the good game play and not to sexually fixated on the imaginary characters. Dude if you personal real life is non existent there is always porn to fixated and calm your sexual frustration.
we play anime
Who's we??
Do you play games for the character's body? Weird
I don't understand the obsession with making video games and movies more representative of real life. The whole purpose is that it's a fantasy! There's nothing wrong with that.
99.9% of male gamers don't look anything like Kratos; including those of us that go to the gym on a regular basis. Yet, you won't find a single one of us complaining about it. If anything, we wanna look like him. That's even the reason why some of us go to gym.
I think it's because women don't objectify men, I mean Im sure we do sometimes but it feels like men are constantly looking at women as objects. But what do I no? I'm just a chick
That's your problem you are trying to apply male logic to the female mentality, the majority don't like to see a chick hotter than them but sadly those who don't like it don't consume videogames sooo companies trying to please people that are not their customers are loosing more
100% untrue. Keep believing your own lies though if it makes you happy.@@melkiecapella2998
@@melkiecapella2998 We do not objectify you. That was exposed as another feminist lie in the 80s.
@@melkiecapella2998Since you're desperate to look at ugly women, just look at your friends and especially the mirror
The issue with this always boils down to insecurities and jealousy.
1) They self insert themselves
2) They create sprites that are intentionally uglier than themselves
3) They speak out against anything that is prettier than themselves as toxic
Bingo. Shows just how insecure, narcissistic and solipsistic they are.
These people have never played otome games, where a female main character is romanced by super attractive and rich and talented male love interests. Most otome are heterosexual and I legit have seen complaints from people that the men look *too fit.* Otherwise there’s bitching that there’s no gay option. So even if it’s focused on a female audience Western gamers really ruin everything.
The atrocity that is April O'Neil in the latest TMNT is a PRIME example. That "I'm not Starfire" comic comes to mind as well.
It always happens when they think they're 10s, and irl they are quasi-solid 2s (pun intended)...
@@avenqeryou’ve seen that garbage too?😤
At least we have Mario and Luigi to represent the average man lol
😂😂
Well except average men are not parkour masters
Those guys are the epitome of unrealistic standards. I can't grow a mustache that fine.
😂
I'm a woman and I love sexy female characters. It's kind of annoying they're getting rid of those
If ya got a minute... look @ Plarium with Raid Shadow Legends. There are amazing female champs on there to get diversity....
What about practically undressed characters?
@@truthseeker7815 Yes. Especially those. More of those please.
@@emirwattabor6991, if I want to watch undressed characters I prefer to watch its rule34, not the game itself
@@truthseeker7815 you can have both and it's even better 🤑
A lot of women will have an issue how a woman is portrayed in a videogame, then turn around and watch a romance where the guy is depicted as this flawless prince charming. Double standards eh?
Double standard is the only one fee-males have.
Its ok for them to fawn over a fake ken because men dont give a fuck. But the moment we enjoy some unrealistic bobs on a vigi game whamen get jealous and cry to men to fix it. They are used to crying and getting there way, men are told no more so we get over stuff or fix our own problems. No one else really does it for us.
Or in the same video games they're playing
Not even that is allowed anymore, it needs to be a gender fluid FAT person
Yeah, how many women out there want their boyfriends or husbands to be like the typical Disney princes or boyfriends? My ex said I should be like how Kristoff treats Anna in Frozen 2. While also having a thing for Chris Hemsworth in the Thor movies. Oh yeah, because those characters are completely true to life. If you don't want men to see women as objects, women should not turn around and do the same. Because all you're going to do is make men double down ten times harder.
Actually no, because most honest men don't do that, we know the difference between what's real and fantasy, and what actually WILL happen as opposed to trying to live in a dream. Because trying to live in a dream can and will ruin other people's lives.
If you see someone in a game and go: "They don't look like me! I can't relate to them...", you have WAY bigger and more basic issues than you think you do!
A hilarious comment I saw recently was along the lines of: "I don't like seeing Asian people in western fantasy games because it breaks my immersion". This was about previews of Dragon's Dogma 2, which has anthro lion people.
@@onceonly1111 its not the same. Ultimately it all depends on the in-game world and lore. For example it wouldnt make sense to have in skyrim asian or black people as the natives, unless there was some specific lore reason why that were such. So if a western fantasy game doesnt have the lore or world building that fits with having people of a certain race, then they shouldn't be inclued just for "diversity" or "inclusion".
Yeah, I have no desire to play as myself in a video game. I want to escape my daily life. And I’ll never have a physique like Geralt’s, but I’m not going to have an identity crisis over it.
@@onceonly1111that's actually an extremely valid point? What do you mean? So if they made an ancient Japan fantasy hame wouldn't seeing westerners also break your immersion
@@yous2244 Maybe the next Dynasty Warriors will have Craig the feckless as a playable character if you have a camera so it can super impose your jowls on a flabby white frame. Sounds awesome... xD
"if I wear heels - I am the patriarchy"
I love this amazing beanpole
The only thing I ever asked for was armor that made sense, and suddenly I'm fending off thirsty green lizardwomen.
Regarding setting unrealistic body expectations, with that I can only agree. I will never look like my tauren hunter. Darn.
flirty armor does make sense -- the best/only chance a girl has at beating an equally trained man is by distracting his lizard brain with tiddies
1: Sexy sells. Always has. Probably Always will.
2: Most people like looking at beautiful people.
these are not people, though. they're images of people. And if you have ever been to an art gallery or studied any kind of history, you'd know beauty has changed throughout time.
@@user-dd5eh5lu3oyet grotesque was never considered beautiful
Until and unless we lose our instinct to reproduce sex will always sell. It's an instinct. It's kind of like we'll always want food and air.
@@user-dd5eh5lu3o True, but UNHEALTHY and out of shape/obese/overweight and ugly women are NOT the beauty standard.
yep that's why japanese manga/amime/games are dominating western ones
being mildly attractive is an "impossible beauty standard". let that sink in.
Mostly all women are ugly just face facts
Pixels viewed as competition for keeping interest
Said by the same sjw's that think obese is healthy.
Think about it. They want to be represented.
They're telling us that ugly characters represent who they are.
It is what it is.
it is, for the people who say this^^ they'd even be jealous of scarecrows.
"Representation matters"
No, it doesn't matters. It's already time somebody says it: representation DOESN'T matter. Quality matters! Relatability matters! A character is supposed to represent only ONE individual (himself/herself), not a whole demography!
Stop thinking EVERYTHING must be about you.
KEEP SPEAKING FACTS MY BRO! 😂
The activists, despite what they would have you believe, are incapable of normal empathy, which is why they won’t accept a character’s character (kindness/cruelty, dedication/laxity, bravery/cowardice, etc.) as unique to that character. They project each of those character traits onto entire demographics because they only ever consider how appearance contributes to “class struggle.”
Stranger yet, the activists demand representation and empathy and compassion from others, all the while making more and more outrageous demands.
I legitimately don’t know how a person gets to be like that.
Hot take: Video games are a visual medium. And you can build and populate entire worlds down to the last detail-the creative potential is literally limitless.
We want characters to look good, even impossibly good, because 1) we like visuals that are pleasant and stimulating to the imagination (not necessarily _that_ way, geez), and because 2) in a medium where you can create anything, why would we accept an unimaginative reflection of mundane reality? It’s the death of creativity, and they’re killing the creativity in each of us with their boring, ugly games/characters.
When a girl sees an attractive girl character: “impossible standards”
When a boy sees a ripped and attractive male character: “that’s literally me”
😂😂😂 exactly
im Kratos, arkham batman & nathan drake & sly copper at the same time
best boy vs girl meme i heard so far ))))
Nice generalization you’ve got there. I’d suggest talking to some actual people.
@@adams3560stay mad 😂
ge a life @@adams3560
"Impossible beauty standards" They do know that hot people exist in reality, right? Like...lots of them.
The problem is that they don't see these hot people in the mirror. They never outgrew the self-insert fanfic phase
@@thatoneperson401 that's a personal issue...not the world's
Cos most of then aren't feminists
@@seancouger007 it should be a personal issue. Unfortunately they make it a world issue by making things like those ted talks, new character models, and Velma
reminds me of that mangaka who got dragged through the mud for drawing a short stacked character which apparently was "unrealistic" while the mangaka herself was a short stacked woman.
"I'm 5'11 if I wear heels and stand in a room full of average height guys... I am the patriarchy"
Nah bro wtf 💀
"Video game women are over-sexualized!"
Meanwhile, half of the male characters in games, especially fighting games, being attractive, ripped, shirtless guys.
now thats a lie a lot of vid game male characters have shirts on (might be sleeveless tho)
It is interesting how "every shape and size" seems to only mean ugly.
It's also interesting that "beautiful in every shape and size" only applies to women. Fat and ugly men are still shamed mercilessly.
What’s crazy is there are people who criticize the “impossible body standards” of anime and video game characters, with tight waists and huge boobs, when many women are naturally that way. One of my good friends has like GGG cups or some shit, but if you go to hug her she has a slim waist and is nowhere near fat, which is what so many people think she’d be given her breast size. She IS an anime character body type IRL.
What’s also crazy, like has already been said, women are the only ones complaining about this shit. Guys don’t care if the dude is fat like them or a 6’ 8” tall ultra ripped dude with a 19 inch cock, they’ll see him and say “literally me” idk why, but we all know this
And if someone's pretty, their either have to constantly apologize for being so, or they're just straight-up evil.
@@SkaldzerkerBody positivity is all a grift. Even Lizzo was caught body shaming other big women. I guess she wants to be the only fat boss bitch getting that fat check. No competition.
@@VueiyVisarelli lets not even mention the women who post twitlongers or go on tiktok, crying about people posting their weight loss journey or going from average to toned, muscular and more attractive than they were before. Saying shit like "thats very insensitive and its fatphobic and you need to be mindful of other peoples feelings."
feminists: female characters with beauty standards in video games are degrading:
*cardi B in WAP*
also feminists: that's empowering
"There some whores in this house.
There some whores in this house."
Feminist: i feel so seen☺️
Feminists hate men, their standards are somewhat consistent when taking into account the misandrist way they frame things. If it’s lesbian women finding women attractive that’s admirable, if it’s a woman exploiting their sexuality for financial gain that’s admirable because they have gained something other than attention from men (who are inherently evil), but the man who finds a woman attractive are “objectifying” them with the “male gaze”. Terms deliberately designed to conflate male sexuality with violent crime.
Excellent point, Mary, and succinctly stated.
Because feminists aren't one thing or set of belief, it's a large spectrum
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I just want artists to be free to explore thier work without fear of offending people who get offended by everything.
Again, i agree with pretty much everything you said. I just asked a non gamer girl what she thought and she said "if i am gonna play a game, im going to pick the goodlooking girl, why would i want to be an ugly girl in a fantasy" and that made sense to me.
Ever notice men are never complaining about unrealistic portrayals of attractiveness in games and media? I don't feel dehumanized when I'm playing Gears of War and every man is a hulking colossus of muscles. Body positivity and representation is fully a women's gripe.
i am overweight but you dont see me in target complaining the manikins dont look like me. Not arguing but agreeing
@@grabble7605 Are you being serious right now?
Do you want to know something that they changed in the MCU that everyone loved?
Nick Fury is black in the MCU and the original is white...
It has nothing to do with a character being black unless they are portrayed poorly...
@grabble7605 did you just say colored people? 😬
IF anything, you see men complaining when it becomes too realistic that it overflows back into uncanny valley.
IE: People losing their minds over Diablo 4 druids being insanely obese compared to earlier versions from 20 years ago.
It was a really weird design decision in World of Warcraft... to make an entire culture / race of fat humans that made no sense. And then copy / paste that exact same people into your next game ... or no good reason.
@@grabble7605what? You are making no sense.
We don't play games because we want reality. We play them to experience fantasy and fiction. These people need to go bankrupt.
yeah but now we get screaming girls into our ears talking about their problems, it sucks.
If you look at Saints Row, they definitely are going bankrupt for this shit
More like they need to stop...... breathing.
@@SuperLumianairesomeone had to say it
To be fair, one doesn't exclude the other. I think Kratos isn't exactly the most attractive dude on the planet, yet it doesn't prevent me from enjoying God of War to the point that I need to make mods of him replacing him with a guy looking like Timothée Chalamet or something. Most men would be outraged and criticize female gamers heavily if they came up with a mod changing Kratos into a cute softboy and claiming they like it better that way, lmao. They would also say "He's a Spartan warrior and a godslayer, he's supposed to look huge, scary and covered in sweat and blood! Women ruin everything..." and I would fully agree with them. So I also agree with female players wanting the female characters to actually look like warriors, and thinking it's a bit silly for men to want warriors to look like instagram models.
It's interesting how this applies mostly to female fighter characters, at least from what I've seen, when fighting pretty much requires you to be in top physical condition. I remember that one Blizzard panel from yonks ago where a woman asked why Sarah Kerrigan looked the way she did, moderately shapely but most importantly athletic and pretty visually capable of handling herself, instead of something more normal like the woman asking the question.
I would never expect a guy character who fights to look like me or act like me. I'm 5'1", not packed with muscle, pretty avoidant when it comes to confrontation, kinda rotund. It doesn't make sense for a fighter to be built or act like that. It's the same for female characters.
Idk I like variety. Beautiful, ugly, whatever fits the vibe. I dont like seeing the same standard face, I want each character to have a unique combination of characteristics
I want pretty female characters in the video games. That's what sells the game
As a woman, I say I don't want to spend my relaxation time playing or looking at ugly characters, Male or Female. Especially in games where I can create my own character and they still look like dogshit.
I recommend Valkyrie Elysium .
@@mo_musashi_284 played. It’s a 6/10 for me.
Based VE enjoyer @@mo_musashi_284
And this is why I mostly play Asian games lately. They always have proper beauty standards.
Starfield returned me to a western game dev world that I have all forgotten about.
Oblivion be like
"Why do they ruin all the things I like?" Summary of pop culture in the 2020's
...of all of the 2000's really
It was refreshing to see Larian Studios make Baldur's Gate 3. They didn't care about all this nonsense about making females ugly for the modern audience. They made really hot and ugly characters. No fucks given. I loved them for that.
The elites want to eliminate gender and sex altogether. They want humanity to be just a lab created slave race
Society has not made a major shift. It is what is being “pushed”. Most people do not believe any of it
@JAIMEGARCIA-gw9re Same can be said of Starfield. Just focused on their world-building and the creation of fun.
As a woman who enjoys playing computer games, grew up in the 90s with highly overly sexualized female charters in-game, and also works in the game industry, I think its good to have the option to customize your character how you see fit.
Whether you wish to play as an absolute giga chad/babe, or an absolute munter, its good when games give us the option to fully customize the character how we see fit. Variety is the spice of life :D
This isn't that though is it? This is female actors being brought into a game then some trans Dev going time to leather face my face onto that.
I agree, the solution is better character customisation. Then everyone can play whatever character they want.
Lae'zel is a queen, her personality alone makes her one of the best romances in BG3. Shadowheart is great too, but you can tell she was made to be the one most people simp for, just like Astarion. Lae'zel might have a weird nose, but that's a minor gripe at best. Female Orcs can get it and so can female Gith.
I agree that Shadowheart and Astarion are thirst traps but that's just the first impressions. The reason they are popular are also their dialogue was really well portrayed and honestly some of the more memorable ones. And funnily enough Astarion is also pretty annoying to people at the start but easily becomes one of the mainstays because of his story and voice lines.
@@Vamparina413 Uh? i think that the fav is still Karlach actually.
Lae'zel has to look like that. She's a githyanki. Making her "hot" in human terms, would be completely, totally, 100% and beyond idiotic decision. Her physical appearance is faithful to her species.
@@Vamparina413I really like shadowheart just for her voice
Lae'zel and Karlach are the freaking besssst
Bitter, resentful people hate aspiration. It would mean they could try harder but it’s easier to drag others down into the muck with them.
Feminist game devs resent positive role models like incels resent chads
This comment is so loaded with fact, and it extends further than just aesthetics. Morals too. I genuinely believe this is the attitude behind the deconstruction of idealistic characters and “heroes”.
Heroes have standards to live by. Heroes have to work and struggle in order to be role models whether they intend for it or not.
Much easier to just say “It’s not fair to expect so much from people! You should accept yourself the way you are, even if you are a profoundly flawed, bitter, hateful person.
@@deleted01not a bad comparison
Bitter, ugly, and fat women who can't get the attention the pretty ones get started this shit and are leading this ugly(as they are outside and inside) trend.
Humans are evil by nature, too much evidence of this
I hate playing ugly characters, I like the games that let you create your own character. I love being able to see how pretty or handsome I can make them. Feminists have a skewed perspective.
It's self hating aggressively unattractive narcissists trying to take possession of everyone else's sexual preferences.
I just know that when I'm playing a female character, I want to *like* that character. I'm spending hours of my life with that character that I am not spending out on a date (for a start).
She doesn't have to be a sex doll (I don't do h games) but I'm not up for spending my fantasy-time with some unpleasant drone. I can get that from HR at work.
@@zimrielexactly. If I have a choice of an avatar, of course I want it to be attractive. Man or woman.
It's why I prefer playing games with good character customizers. I want the *option* to make my character either a good looking guy or gal (depends on the build or how I feel that particular day) or to make the most terrifying monstrosity known to mankind.
There is no inbetween.
Much the same thing here, except that I also like creating my own ugly and weird characters, or just characters with "character" - I don't want mediocrity thrust upon me without choice in any event, variety is the spice of life, and I need a lot more variety than modern video game developers seem to want to provide in a world where androgynous, racially-ambiguous creatures cut from the same approved templates have become a compulsory norm....
It's always ugly women that make ugly characters. I never see a 10/10 advocating for making video game characters ugly
Hell, I don't really even see moderately pretty women advocating for making video game characters ugly.
I just came here to say every character in Baldurs Gate is hot af without mods and I love them all.
If you think Lae'zel is hot you might have mental issues. She is a good character but, HOT? Dude what are you smoking, Crack? The only hot characters in Baldur's Gate 3 are Shadowheart, Astarion and Gale (Karlach is just average looking). Everyone is else is average looking to downright ugly (eg Z'rell). Let's keep it a stack.
The reason why men are okay with being "sexualized" and women are not is simple. Generally, men look at attractive men and find it aspirational, while women look at attractive women and feel jealousy.
Well said
So, so true.
Well said. 👍👍👍
@@truthpowerlove3310 And what percent of men is that? 1? 1.2?
@@truthpowerlove3310the reason I can’t agree with this is because those simps and fem boys are just siding with their friend to try and get a chance at hitting it… they align their beliefs with feminist because they wait for a chance at licking that boot instead of being their own man.
If it was such a 'large contingent' then wouldn't we see this same effect happen to male characters and them getting the Thor from Endgame treatment, the math and reaction does not add up and even if they were as upset as the women making other women ugly out of jealousy they certainly aren't constantly harping about it online.@@truthpowerlove3310
I'm a girl and I actually like playing video games. I also like appealing character designs (both for guys and girls). Let people enjoy their cute/sexy characters. Please. 😮💨
Play games from the east like Japan and Korea, the way they model characters is undoubtedly majestic
Nobody's not letting people enjoy those, though...
@@grabble7605 Let me introduce you to game journalists and X
Does it matter how "appealing" the character is? Don't you just like the game for the game?
@@melkiecapella2998 1st they would have to make a good game, and they don't know how to do that.
The reason you can't find the name of the character from Fable is because you get to make your own character in Fable. That was just a character for the trailer, unlike the other characters who listed which are actual wrote characters.
One major reason why ugly male characters aren't actually that controversial is that ugly male characters are, overwhelmingly, bad guys you're supposed to hate.
If you're a protagonist male, you're a handsome dude - a pretty boy, an athletic type, ruggedly handsome, a badass mercenary, a muscle dude (and there's very much an audience for heavily muscled dudes amongst both men and women) or, if you're older, a silver fox. Same goes if you're an ally - the Lancer in any game is probably pretty good looking as well, as are your other male characters. The only time a playable male character is ugly is if they're a badass or "bestial" in some way, and generally speaking, the playable character roster does not include a lot of characters like this in most cases. If you look at the average JRPG cast, for instance, almost everyone is attractive, except maybe one veteran warrior type who is not.
If you're a villain, you can be any of those things... or you can be ugly, and either can be done just fine and dandy and no one cares because they're the bad guys. If a villain is ugly, then their evil is on full display; if a bad guy is pretty, then it's a veneer over a rotten core (and oftentimes when they descent into depravity they will look increasingly wild looking).
Indeed, a lot of the complaints about the ugly female characters are specifically about female characters that the player plays as or is required to emphasize with. Haggish women have always existed in video games as bad guys and no one has ever batted an eye at that. It's playable female characters or major NPCs who you're supposed to interact with constantly who are "supposed" to be attractive. Even Anya from Overwatch or the random elderly women in Watch Dogs: Legion are not ugly. They're designed to be characters who you emphasize with and enjoy playing as, and while they aren't "sexy", they're not ugly - they are aesthetically pleasing. The kindly looking old british woman may not be a "looker" but she's not repellant to look at, and it's funny to play as a geriatric 80 year old who used to work for as a spy to roll over a fence and then tase some hapless guard.
Even non-conventional female protagonist characters tend to still be attractive - Zarya from Overwatch is not what every dude looks for in a lady, but she has a pretty face, and while she has lots of muscles (and that's not for everyone) you'd have to be quite crazy to say she's ugly. She's clearly designed to be attractive. Indeed, Lae'zel from BG3 - who is anything but conventionally attractive because of her missing nose and odd skin color - is actually pretty much conventionally attractive otherwise, and while she isn't everyone's cuppa, there's a lot of male (and female) players who want her to step on them. She's a badass warrior lady, and fulfills that fantasy well for a certain demographic.
If Abby's face had been prettier, I doubt people would have even batted at eye at her build (though people would have complained about her for murdering Joel regardless).
People like attractive people - men like attractive men and women like attractive women. While there are exceptions to this rule, if you look at popular media, people gravitate heavily towards attractive characters of both sexes, regardless of their own sex. Harrison Ford is popular with both men and women. Same goes for Tom Cruise.
Indeed, the only time this really ends up being alienating for people most of the time is when the character in question is a child - this is why in the West, most media aimed at adults is focused on adult characters. Indeed, it's a pretty sure sign when the main character is underage that it is a work that is targeted primarily at children. This is not as true in Japan, where teenage years are often viewed in the same way as college years in the west, resulting in more protagonists who are in high school (but generally not younger than that) in adult oriented media.
This is quite different from people not liking it when characters are overly sexualized - a character can be very attractive, but not particularly sexualized. For example, the protagonists of Uncharted - Nathan Drake, his wife Elena, and Sullivan - are all attractive people, with Sullivan being a "silver fox" type and both Nathan Drake and Elena being quite attractive. However, they aren't heavily sexualized.
Being upset over people being attractive, as opposed to sexualized, is often a sign that there's something wrong with you personally - it's the green-eyed monster coming out, the monster of jealousy, over other people being more attractive than you are.
This is well thought out and I thank you for posting it.
As a 58 year old woman I game daily and when I play a character I want to play an attractive female and I want to look at attractive males and females. I prefer to create my character and have never created an unattractive one.
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😮 how dare you
If it's a multiplayer game where movement speed is upgradeable like, for example ARK, I like to make huge fat people and max movement speed because that's funny to me. But that's just me.
I'm 40 yrs old and when my husband and I create characters in games we also want to play a sexy female character. Most of the time I like to play the hunky guy character because.... I'm shallow.😂
same as making very small characters with maxed out strength@@guypierson5754
Someone who demands validation from complete strangers is not at peace with themselves and will constantly be at war with others as a result.
Someone who demands that all pixels on a screen make them cum is not at peace with themselves and will constantly be at war with others as a result.
Everyone demands validation from strangers.
@@grabble7605 it's what we naturally want of course but there is a way to have peace even when others look down on you.
@@icecoolguitaEvdryone does want or demand validation, but that is not the problem, it is HOW they go about to get it. And the hateful ones exclusively pick the methods that allows them to play the woke cards. Victim, racist, and so on.
@@grabble7605nah we dont
My question is why do men get mad when women use their attractiveness or sexuality to make money. But then when it comes to games when a woman is less attractive they’re complaining that they can’t sexualize a fictional character. I just don’t get it. I guess one compared to the other is the female capitalizing on their sexuality is under their control where as the female fictional character has no control over being sexualized so they prefer it. That’s just my logic.
thank you so much for writing this! actually finally someone
Thanks for the video. Totally agree.
Imagine that. The women that have these issues about attractive women are themselves not attractive...
I know, it writes itself. It's pathetic.
It’s totally insecure women. It’s always insecure women…
Women love to keep other women in misery lol.
That's like saying males who don't want to see peens and scrotes in mainstream film are just tiny dicked and jealous. That's why we don't see much full frontal make nudity, because most men must have tiny peens and are all jealous.
All i care about is massive boobs and skimpy lingerie. Look at the original tomb raider, raiding caves in a bikini and massive boobs. Inspirational this is what they need to do, a winning formula
My wife being a somewhat busty lady also finds it strange that the only female characters whether they be in games or live action are only permitted to have big breasts if they are morbidly obese.
Buh buh where are her OrGaNs
Must be all the fat deposits
There are plenty of game characters that are busty but still skinny
@@crumblingphilosophy9323majority of them are
Female characters to resemble the women who play them? When have male characters resemble the men playing as them???????
I'm a female gamer and I don't agree with the "majority of female gamers". I prefer to be a beautiful sexy tough woman. Something unexpected. Games are not reality so why not be something fantasy?
Meanwhile as a straight female, I LOVE the sexualised characters. Why? Because I look badass, and I feel badass. Getting upset vs doing something about it like losing weight is apparently a hard decision. Only one makes you feel better
BADASS=BRAINWASHED WITH AN INFLATED EGO
Like I'm just scared for remastered new characters or just I wonder what lower Croft is going to look like in I would say 10 years I would love to see what all of the old superhero you know love interest female protagonists are going to look like because it's not looking good at all it really isn't I started to say we need to go back to lollipop Chainsaw
@VodPJ24uEgkkZT although would you wear it if it gave you extra inventory slots? Lol maybe 2? 😆 but don't even mind the breastplate stuff because I find it humorous. Being sexy isn't offensive, don't know when it did? As long as it wasn't portrayed to kids. I hate to say it, but it "adds character" lol
I just don't understand why everyone has to be offended, and especially because it's rooted in jealousy and fear. I don't understand how this out of everything going on is what people want to focus on and be pissed about.. 😒
I always played non humans(but then I tabletop game not video?) to remove this unrealistic standard in the first place. But with some of these fantasy games or post apocalyptic, they are forgetting one thing. The characters that live and interact in those games are designed to survive in a VERY different reality to ours. Its therefore realistic to believe that female warriors in those games would be more toned and muscled because they have to be to survive and thus totally unlike regular girls whose hardest task they have to do each week is driving to the supermarket to load heavy shopping in their back seats or boot of their car. If you lived in worlds like that, your body would adapt or you would die. That's why its a fantasy, it's not meant to be overly realistic because it can't be and I don't think you'd really want it to be.
Attractive* ecualising yourself is not cool, we men dislike it
Our timeline took a turn for the worse when someone managed to convince the masses that jealousy is stunning and brave. Because let's be real, unattractive women complaining about attractive women is jealousy of the most ancient kind.
Yeah but now we have the internet, so they can find each other, organize, and bitch louder.
@@robertsteiner4696 That's just wrong and awful to do tho.
Unless you're a sociopath, dont do what that dude says.
Jeez man don't kick a dead dog like that
Great video Syd!
I find it so strange that people think that changing fantasy worlds that are 100% fictional is where change needs to happen to help whatever problem they’re trying to solve. To me, it feels like people are trying to say we can’t even imagine women being attractive or remotely unrealistic even when the setting is completely fictional.
15:50 "No one in those games is particularly attractive."
In _Zero Dawn_ Aloy wasn't supermodel hot. She was above average in an average attractive society. Yet someone was threatened by above average and wanted her to be ugly. That is next level insecure.
Thats the problem with Hollywood/VG in general. The face models for MK1 for example are conventionally attractive but example like Tanya look objectively worse and its not a case of uncanny valley. Shadowheart's face model is good looking but they make her weedily and mouse-ish. Almost like a broodish hobo.
@@Monty2289 actually shadowheart still comes off as rather cute in game if you ask me. the mods for shadowheart just seem to me like "alt face mod" , not really prettier mod. now La'zaerl or however her name is spelled .. she is Fffffffffff uuuuuu *****k ugly, no matter how you slice it. she looks like shrek had sex with a bull dog that then had sex with a chijuaua which was then crossed genetically with a sun rotted cumcumber and she was the testube offspring that poped out after all those mixes.
How is Aloy ugly in Forbidden West? She is by far the prettiest character in the game and is generally beautiful exactly like the actress they scanned. I think Aloy should be more muscular, actually, considering she climbs mountains constantly and is an expert archer. As for her face, she looks incredibly realistic for a person with fair skin who spends a lot of time outdoors in the sun. She's a little ruddy and has some freckles, but her skin is clear and youthful, plus the artists even gave her realistic peach fuzz around her jaw muscles like real women have.
@@Elriuhilu exactly these people are just stupid tbh
Most women ARE insecure I think.
Feminist game developers are miserable inside, so everything they make is with the purpose of spreading their misery to others...
Could just nix the “game developers” part lol
Their one goal is to co-opt as space they perceived to be hostile to them, despite gaming being one of the first inclusive hobbies to be widely adopted. All they want is to corrupt it into something that their "enemies" hate. That is why they boast their war trophies proudly on twitter like a severed head after a long battle. Five years of game development career to achieve their crowning achievement of making a beloved male character into an ugly black female because that's what they think they hate the most. They don't even have the decency to make them attractive and charismatic, and to be a strong role model for the people that confide in characters of similar race. They are always bitter, nasty people, even if they are meant to be a good character.
It's ironic that Japan, a country with an incredible asian majority, not only consistently creates better female characters from a personality AND aesthetic standpoint, but they also do the same for black characters as well.
doesn't help they don't play the games they make. it's a job for them, nothing more. easy for them to criticize.
I totally agree
insert Tolkien quote about evil being unable to create.. only corrupt and destroy
I haven't played any new games releases in years, ant certainly none that you mentioned, besides TR1. But you've said one thing that resonated with me well: games are a form or entertainment and escapism. They aren't anatomy or sociology class. It's perfectly okay for a character to look what a player might aspire to look like, and same thing about character, and other traits.
super well done video! great job.
I'm a strait female gamer. Whenever it is possible I choose the female character.
Of course my female viera looks stunning, with nice colorful hair, pink eyes and a skimpy outfit from last year moonfaire festival. I played as Kassandra on AC Odyssey, because she looks (at least in my eyes) beautiful, sexy, is smart and strong. Whereas in Valhalla, I choose the male Eivor, because there is no sex appeal in the female version and the dialog version she feels so abbrasive.
When I play a video game, I want to dive deep into a fantasy world, why not playing a smart and good looking female character, preferably also with a sexy outfit? Heck, in most games, I'm not even a human char.
That's precisely what makes the "representation" argument so ludicrous. I'm a female gamer, too, and I have zero problem playing male characters, young, old, aliens, zombies, monsters, robots, anthropomorphic animals, "God" in God simulation games, etc etc. If the game is immersive, then the player "becomes" their avatar. Yet these uggos IRL assert (as if it is self-evident fact) that a person can only identify with an avatar that is their exact match. It's demonstrably false. Do these people perhaps have some mental limitation that prevents them from self-inserting into another person's situation??? Whatever it is, I sure don't want them speaking on my behalf!
@@iridescentsea3730female gamer here too - the new generation of gamers seem to lack any imagination and feel the need/right to be represented in everything including games and films. I just think they enjoy finding offence and having a ‘cause’.
I literally deleted my female warlock in Destiny cuz I didn't like how the robes made her ass look huge. Remade the character into a hot awoken male lol And this would be AFTER I completed the main storyline of the first game (so like a decade ago).
Hell if I can make a female character beautiful and sexy, I'm gonna do it. Why would I want my character to be hideous to look at, especially if I'm going to be watching them for over 40+ hours of gaming?
Every women gamer in my friend circle and with whom I have spoken to (which may still be a limited perspective) feel exactly as you do and I personally believe that most women feel the same as men do when it comes to the fantasy.
Movies too, we want beautiful people and escapism more than selfishly seeing ourselves in the medium.
@@sarasunshinemt4444 I make my male avatars nice looking too, my Cyberpunk male V is a delight lol. I'm just glad I can play as a female and I want a badass female with a decent storyline and game mechanics. This is one of the reasons I loved the Tomb Raider franchise. To me, these activists are basically saying we can only be powerful OR attractive when represented by media. I hate that gaming has been made this toxic by the new generation.
I'm a female gamer. I play a lot of games and I'm not ashamed to say that I don't want to play as an ugly character. I always use beauty mods for my Skyrim game and now for Balder's Gate. I can't even play that game without character mods.
A LOT of those mods are actually made by women, especially outfits. And this is also true for Skyrim's endless stream of female followers, sometimes voiced byt the developers themselves.
Balders Gate actually has attractive character models though. The men and women look very pretty. I was very pleased.
I'm also a female gamer,not even that pretty,but I still don't want to play as an ugly character either. Love using skyrim mods!
@@michaelpettersson4919Proof?
I think representation. DOESN'T matter.
Another good piece.
all i got from this is that all this people who wants "realistic body" are insecure af when exposed to good looking characthers in fiction
Funnily enough, if you pay attention to the second Ted Talk, the one with the short-haired girl, she does state that they use these characters to "humanise themselves". I kind of feel this is somewhat of a self-report, that this person needs media for self-validation. It is hard to tell how many of the developers are similar to that.
Being a female gamer, I just want to be able to create my character 😂 and when I can't, I want to look pretty and badass, not normal
Yeah !
I don't understand why there's so hate about oversexualising character. Yes sometime it's dumb xD
But look at the male character this is the same and noone's complaining. Gordon Freeman is a fucking scientist and he's badass and handsome.
If we got the option to play as Zelda in totk I would feel more immersed into the game. Not saying I don’t. If you play as a cute character you see yourself and pretend to play as them that’s more fun I’ll enjoy! 😆
As a male gamer I have weird attraction to make 80% of my characters - beautiful females. Also I have same strong need to use game balance exploits to make any character OP.
And here is fun: yet another princess-looking girl who kicking shit out of anything in her way. Damn, I'm more feminist than that entitled bitches who are trying to ruin games cause they want everyone to be as ugly as they are.
Exactly !! Been playing my whole life. Own every Tombraider. Never ever felt intimidated by the character.. wtfff. She was my hero. I'm 53 now and also grew up loving elektra and miho and a gazillion other female characters. Sure they looked great... but dah, that's who I love
Basically this.
If I wanted to play as a regular, somewhat-overweight guy with glasses, who can spend hours leveling up his strength and yet still struggle to pull even a regular weight person out of water and on board the boat, I'd just step outside the house. 😆
meanwhile me looking at male gears of war characters : yeah well...I need to eat I guess....
Oh, come on. Women in Baldurs Gate 3 are just gorgeus. Yes, even Lae'zel, who is literal ALIEN from another planet
Shadowheart is the only objectively attractive character, hence why 51% of the player base is romancing her. What other romanceable attractive female characters are there in BG3, except maybe Mizora...?
@@VarthalabauHair Female Tavs get a majestic ass by default. Most female NPCs look good, romanceable or not.
Funny thing is Laezel is pretty much a direct face scan, small nose and all (of course the small nose is alien looking on purpose but her actress does have the same face sans the alien features) I've seen her youtube shorts and she is gorgeous. Laezel is pretty imo alien looking? sure, but I still would without a second of hesitation
@@VarthalabauHair Minthara is romanceable if you don't kill her
@@MrWepx-hy6sn Lae'zel's voice actress is indeed pretty, but unless you're into green women with frog like skin, it's safe to say most people find Githyanki gross. Karlach looks like a male bodybuilder, Jaheira is old (and unromanceable), Minthara is mid (they could have done a much better job with a female Drow). That's all female followers in BG3 basically...
There's even a pretty female tiefling in Act I you meet near the mountain pass which you can ask to join you, but she flat out rejects you. Lol the devs went out of their way to say "fuck you" to people who wanted traditionally attractive women.
There is no societal shift in beauty standards, there is a forced push to try to change it.
The world leaders are satanist they are inverting everything
Seriously though, theres guys who like women that dont fit those beauty standards, they dont need to see them in video games to appreciate them.
It simple the LGBTQ people are offended by Beautiful women, their not offended by Handsome men.
@@bjornsmith9431 nah, its definitely more than just lgbtq communities, they may be more vocal for representation but its more the "body postivity" shit like, i get it if theyre sensitive about their weight or if they dont look like the girl the guy they like didnt choose them over, but that aint everyone elses problem, be positive about your body without calling for attention and acknowledgement. Especially if they dont even plan on playing the games theyre so up at arms over.
Which is absurd! I like skinny/athletic girls with big boobs and feminine faces and no amount of social engineering will change this fact.
You can convince fools, your family and friends to "change" the foundations of reality but never complain when a stranger still thinks you're ugly and weird.
80% of them can't even live up to their standards
For girls, the bare minimum is needed nowadays. Just don't be fat.
100% of them can't even live up to their standards!
@@stevencooper4422 I have a need to be with a fat one. Never was. I wonder how it would be. At least once God dammit!
@@stevencooper4422 I would add pleasant personality to that as absolutely bare minimum. Pleasant personality these days means someone you can talk to without being called names. 😆 Yeh absolute bare minimum.
The honest truth is women have been spoiled rotten in the western world. In most Asian countries women at least look physically attractive because the culture still has Traditional Values at making women more marriageable.
That Fable mc totally looks like a Shrek peasant lol
Aloy is NOT ugly 💀 She lives in the woods, do yall want her to have a 10 step face routine?
The point is the irl model looks a lot better than the final product means that they nerf her looks on purpose just to please the me n ta ll y i ll
@@johnstrife7 if you think her looks are “nerfed” because of facial fuzz you need a reality check. Imagine talking about mental illness all while coming up with weird conspiracies on why a female character isn’t attractive *to you* instead of admitting you simply don’t find them attractive.
It’s okay to want everything that moves to be considered fuckable and sexy but don’t project that onto fictional characters while talking about mental illness. Let me set this straight- this WHOLE comment section that you presumably side with is talking about a characters looks being “nerfed” because feminists don’t like hot women and only care about representation and that representation “doesn’t matter”… but then you whine about how the character looks.. sounds weird. Because if looks really didn’t matter you wouldn’t be complaining about it either, I feel like both sides are just really stupid.
@@Authlix cope lmao
@@johnstrife7 No argument? 💀
@@johnstrife7”She’s not hot to me, it’s woke liberal feminist ps!” Or, hear me out.. Aloy isn’t a prepubescent big booty one piece character because she’s ripped and goes outside to fight bears 😨
This is why I play games where I design my own character. Nobody is gonna dictate to me how unatractive my character has to be to not hurt their feelings
Unless you have only bad options in the character creator.
Just like in Mass Effect Andromeda. No chance to create a good looking woman thanks to Anita Sarkeesian or what her last name was lmao.
I'm a little sad that I can't create grossly obese Fat Bastard themed characters, but there's usually plenty of opportunity to make something incongruous enough to tickle my fancy.
_SoulCalibur VI_ FTW! Heck, you can even dress up the main cast with the same variety.
(Such as when I dressed up Amy and Talim as Raven and Starfire. 😋)
@@auturgicflosculator2183 in dragons dogma 1 you could make fat character but the developers misunderstood how fat and muscles worked
As game artist and upcoming game developer, I agree. Representation should not get in a way of creativity.
As a fellow artist and game dev I agree with your statement however representation became a weapon called "Cancel culture" and that has ruined a lot of people. What's ironic for me at least is "we don't want impossible beauty standards in a game", when the game is meant to be fun and a escape of reality, ergo fantasy, also known as not reality, so real standards should not apply unless the developer wants it to be.
@@Victorneko it's funny because If I am to create I humanoid creature character, that would also be impossible beauty standard? Makes no sense. These people need to find a hobby or something and stop being so miserable.
Nice meeting another fellow game artist 🥳
How can they say there are only 3 tropes for female characters, but then brings up Tomb Raider. A vastly intelligent archeologist, who is trained to survive.
I couldn’t honestly make it through the Ted talks alone
I don't see what's wrong with wanting your fiction to not resemble reality. Honestly, if I'm going to be looking at characters for several hours, I want them to be pleasant to look at.
Feminists and other Marxists dont want you to enjoy anything. You need to be as miserable as they are looking in the mirror
Especially the character your playing as and be interacting 100% of the time
Furthermore, these uggos do not represent reality. The reality is that average non-American women are pretty damn beautiful. Like people think a 5/10 is an insult, but it really isn't. A 5/10 woman is a good looking woman. And 5/10 is dead average.
@@TheStraightestWhitest its the people who put themselves a 10 but have massive hissy fits about pixels on screen being a unrealistic beauty standards as competition they must punish
Gaming community spent so much time asking for realism in the game, and now they're ripping what they sowed. I got tired of being told between 2008 and 2013 how realism in video games made them better, now look at that, it seems that it wasn't so good after all...
I’m a woman and I don’t want characters that ‘represent’ me. It’s a game. It’s imagination. A realistic Orc? Fairy? The whole point is it’s escaping your reality and immersing yourself as someone else.
people who want to be "represented" in fiction have low IQ.
fiction is supposed to develop your imagination and tell impressive and memorable tales, not inflate a specific person's ego
Exactly, men love halo and the character is a featureless mech suit.
Yep escapism is why we play these games. If i wanted to see normal women, you know what, I can do that in the local supermarket.
😂 its insanity
And doesnt help whatever group thats kikn up a stink ,im gna assume its the alphabet soup mob.....again
Arrrgh A creation thats prettier than me,that i made...damn pastry-archy
is that 2nd speaker on helium, holy cow.
Did we learn nothing from the Victoria Secrets Angels? Even the majority of women want the prettiest women.
I'm a female gamer, not a feminist. I enjoy playing characters that are prettier than I will ever be. As you pretty much said, video games, like comic books, are representations of ideal humans - SUPER humans, not usually normal ones. And anyway, why does "normal" have to be ugly and sexless?
hmmm
I honestly think most men don't ever even think about how the characters of the games they play are more attractive than them. Like Geralt could probably steal my wife but that thought never crosses my mind. Like seriously who's getting jealous over a few pixels?
Men really don't have a problem seeing chiseled greek gods in games, because for us, it's motivation to aspire to be that man.
As a male gamer and not a feminist, I also enjoy playing female characters that are prettier than me. If I can't play as a sexy dominitrix in leather, why am I even playing video games?
Lets remember here , its not female gamers that are the problem, because 99% of female gamers I play with ALWAYS make their characters as hot as inhumanly possible. The problem, as Syndey pointed out, is with the female developers who got into game development with the pure intention of changing how female characters look. THEY are causing this problem and it will only end when companies start hiring mostly male developers again. I dont like sexism but this is one area where I think we may actually need some 🤷♂
If you want reality, walk outside. I work retail. I see ugly, fat people every day. And that’s just me looking in the mirror when I get out of the shower. What’s wrong with playing something that’s supposed to take you out of reality for a while? Most of us get enough reality.
Yeah like I'd love some hot male characters and full frontal male nudity but where is it? Midsommar tried it at least. Video games though, why are the scrotums not hanging out and where are the giant penis outlines in the tight pants? We women get gypped. No one wants to see some ugly dude in a video game with 8000 lbs of armor covering him.
I agree, but I'm sure you don't look that bad
Haha. Thank you. I mean, someone thinks I look ok. I’m married to a beautiful woman. So, at least one doesn’t think I’m a hideous beast. But close.
@@jonbeck5945 I am happy to hear you have someone 💯😊
What's wrong with it? They don't control it. They control your workplace. They control your neighborhood. But they don't control your fantasies. And that pisses them off to no end!
I didnt think of it like that. I always just sorta assumed the artists weren't good enough to make them better looking.
Having an alt motive makes alot of sense
I completely agree! As a female gamer i use it for escapism, i want to be a super hot badass woman, and i want to see super hot badass guys and girls in my games! Games are not supposed to reflect real life! They are taking me to a fantasy world where everyone is super attractive and that’s what i want! If i want to see “normal” bodies I’d go to Walmart!
Preach!
How many of these ugly people actually drive game sales?
🤣
Agreed, even as a straight dude if I play a game where the Male protagonist is good looking it makes me feel more badass while playing.
Agreed
got it in a nutshell, "fantasy" or "rpg" isn't meant to be seeing yourself to make you feel validated. That just demonstrates huge lack of focus and imagination. The beauty of a good character creator to me is being able to make someone as beautiful or f**ked up as you can imagine!
I was a video-game artist for over 25 years. I can tell you on several occasions over the last decade or so, I have been specifically told to "tone down the hotness" and "chunk her up a bit", and the like.
Side Note: I've worked along side female game-developers almost that entire 25+ years. I can think of only two employers I had that had no female devs.
Interesting. What were the diferences between the rest of your employers and the "only two"?
@@handroids1981once a female was present in the office all the males changed their behavior to be more feminist aligned
@@roadrash2005 Wow! One bad apple (Dev.) spoils the barrel (Game.). I wonder how many Radical Fembots were involved in Horizon zero dawn, LOL.
@@handroids1981 well based on the data they had less feminists working on that game compared to forbidden west.
Small team size. It was much more likely to have female co-workers on larger teams and at larger studios. More to that point, even the larger of the two with no females was early in my career, when there were just far fewer females overall in the industry to even encounter.@@handroids1981
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 very well said indeed. It's all fantasy, escapism, and we definitely need that in these times, hypersexual or not.
So they have no issues with most male characters being ripped and handsome as hell. I guess beauty standards apply only to females eh?
As a gamer, I want to see beauty. These are FANTASY worlds. I make my character as beautiful as possible. If I am going to play the character for many hours, I want to feel good. If others want to play ugly characters, go for it. Why should I have to play a game their way?
I agree. Why would I want the main characters in my games to look like my coworkers? I see those people enough. More than enough.
I always get a chuckle out of people going on about "representation" mattering so much. I'm black irl, for reference, and never once have I thought: "This movie/game would me much more enjoyable if the main character looked like me."
If you absolutely must have a character who represents you in every facet of your personality and looks to feel like you *exist*...maybe spend a little more time touching grass?
Yep. Had this argument with my EX. Representation is *OVERRATED* ...
I didn't need to feel represented in Blade. I was just there to watch an awesome movie.
@@quoudten It is overrated until you don't see yourself in anyone anymore. It would be interesting for you to not see any person anywhere who resembled you in any way.
My favorite black actor is Robert Downey jr.
@@AwakenedAvocadoI got that reference, and my brother and I love that movie😂
I’ll never forgive them for what they did to MJ in Spider-Man 2
The biggest problem is that even if they get their representation that they want, the majority of them will not buy or watch a game/Series/Movie they bullying the industry into 🙄
A wise gamer told me almost 20 years ago "you are going to watch your character for a very very lot of time, be sure to make something that you want to keep looking at". up to this day i still live by his advice
I pretty much follow this advice to heart, that's why I'm always stuck for 2 hours everytime there's a character creation tool in game.
That's been the reason my character is always a woman when it's an option. I'd rather look at a woman than a man for 60 hours.
Every game I play is first-person or you wear armor...
Yeah I've looked at a few different mmo characters of mine more than I have looked at myself during my whole life. I don't take any pictures of myself so the only time I really see myself is when I go to the bathroom.
You know you're a simple man when you choose to look at a woman for hours than a man.
"Dont sexualize us, Also pay for my only fans!!!!!"
-Modern (Feminist) Women
Exactly 😂🤣😂
Aint that the duplicitous truth!
This...
Never pay! Wait for leaks if you must, but ideally don't even look.
In a Nutshell. 😂
The ones who want all to be ugly are already dead inside too much pride
This intentional over-uglification is happening in Hollywood too, movies, TV, commercials, etc.
As a dude who has gamed for about 25 years I've never once had a cry that the character I was playing in a game was more muscular and attractive than me, same when watching male heroes in movies. I'm sure this true for most males, so why should a few dictate for the rest of us?
Same i am old been playing games since the start , and could give 2 craps
I dont think a single guy gets mad at muscular dudes in movies.
Because they're louder
@@caddermeran that is accurate!!!
Men are not inherently insecure like most women.
I like how in a lot of the clips containing sexualized women, there are also men who shockingly don't have beer bellies, double chins, or skinny arms... Almost every man in video games has a six pack, muscly arms bigger than my thighs, and chad jawlines. Don't hear many complaints about those men being sexualized or representing an impossible male image.
Well, you do, but it's most often because we started the discussion talking about the women and then someone throws in something about gender equality without thinking about it.
@boobah5643 it's a totally reasonable thing to bring up. Why is the sexualization complaint conveniently only applicable to women? Seems narcissistic. It reveals a lack of empathy.
It's because when men see those characters, they usually feel inspired rather than insecure.
A jacked dude doing crazy shit in a video games makes more sense and looks cooler than an average looking guy.
@@boobah5643bro, wtf you just said, you basically said that those arent complains but a comeback to what they are doing to the female characters
thank goodness for modders
“Why do they always ruin the things I like” yeah same
This reminds me of when I got Hogwarts Legacy for my gf. She usually makes female characters in games but ALL of the female presets were so ugly and masculine looking she ended up picking a male one instead. She figured that if she can't play as a cute girl then might as well have a handsome guy to look at. And boy were all the male presets handsome.
I didn't know that there was anyone out there who had the same problem I had with Hogwarts legacy.
I primarily play female characters if the game allows for character creation like the souls games because as a guy I'm used to playing males characters since there are plenty of them so I always create a female avatar but I'm Hogwarts legacy I couldn't see any satisfying creation which made me believe the Devs did it on purpose.
See I find that so funny nowadays.
Women characters were the fun characters because they looked better than men.
Now it's almost flipped in this woke era.
@@citizenvulpes4562 so true, even I knew that we live in the dark ages when I had no choice but to pick a male avatar because that is very uncharacteristic of me to do so and what these so called female developers don't understand is that at the heart of it all, gamers are not focused on looking at how pretty their character is, rather they are still focused on the gameplay for example, who in their right mind would be trying to look at how pretty their female character is when malenia from Elden ring is sending your soul to the shadow realm. These people just don't understand how gaming works.
Maybe someone will release a patch to fix that. Like for Mass Effect Andromeda. 🙏🤞🤞🤞
That is sort of why I sometimes choose female characters in games. "If my character can't have a beard like a mran, I might as well be a womin!", I would much prefer the unachievable awesome beard standards of dwarves with beards spanning their whole bodies.
In Oblivion I was practically forced to choose between being a cat man, a lizard man, or a woman. "This beard slider isn't a beard! HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO FEEL 'SEEN' WITH GREEN FIVE-O'CLOCK SHADOW, TODD!?"
One of the refreshing and revolutionary things about Skyrim was the ability to play as a well-bearded elf. :D
The fact that a lot of folks deflect the fact that male characters also have unrealistic, hyper sexualized bodies and designs, and chalk it up to "iT's A mAlE pOwEr FaNtAsY" completely miss the fact that it's a power fantasy in both cases. My ex absolutely adored Lara croft. She cosplayed as her and everything. Playing as Lara, a very attractive, powerful, independent woman was definitely a "power fantasy" for her, just like playing as Batman, a super attractive billionaire who kicks ass is a "power fantasy" for me. The only difference is that there isn't a sub-group of men who get jealous over Batman and how he's depicted like there is for Lara. My guess as to why is that maybe men don't care as much about being less attractive than some of the people around them, but it's just a guess.
What?? A separation of reality and fantasy?? An understanding that you can't perfectlt emulate your favorite characters 100% in every aspect of their character?! As if you and your favorite characters are different people/beings?!
Who'd have thought?!!
A fat guy can get laid if he has other redeeming traits. A fat guy that cries in public because he doesn't look like Batman though... not so sure. Probably because doing the best with what you got generally is a more male thing to do than to cry and settle for being a victim.
Gynocentrism is the reason why people have a hyper-focus on the depiction of females, and the propensity to hand-wave off the male counterpoint.
The difference between having a personality of admiring or aspiring to be like someone instead of being jealous or hateful of someone that has positive attributes lies mostly in lack of confidence.
There is a huge confidence epidemic and it is getting worse with every generation. Males, because of their (on average) slightly more robust mental framework, suffer slightly less from this than females, but they are slowly starting to catch up for sure in younger generations.
Either way, this is incredibly worrying and not because of the effect on videogames, even though this is highly annoying and very unneccesary. But it is having incredibly detrimental effects on mental health, social interaction, creating succesful relationships and overall quality of life in general.
Being jealous or hateful instead of aspirational, means you will not improve on yourself, which is an important way to build confidence, Slowly adding layers and layers of achievements will eventually result in a solid foundation that can heal even the worst of broken spirits, but without apsiration or admiration (or great rolemodels to begin with) there is no way start this process.
@@pinobluevogel6458 I have almost no confidence or self esteem due to life-- im slowly gaining it now.. but maybe thats why I love playing games.. lara croft is my favorite female in a game.. and as for guys.. i like playing any guy that is physically capable and confident.. its 100% an escape from reality for me.. I feel so much more confident playing games where the character is strong and confident. if i had to play as a character that was weak and had no confidence. well I wouldn't even touch the game. I think in a way the last bit of your comment sums it up in a weird messed up way ... I kinda aspire to be the character in the games.. They become role models for me .. I've been socially isolated for 10+ years with no role models or social interaction.. which has destroyed all my confidence and self esteem.. ontop of having disabilities.. so for me having strong and confident characters helps build my motivation and desire to be more confident and stronger.. I often want to be like the characters in games.
It’s really not that complicated why this uglification became a thing:
- ESG & DEI
- Sweet Baby Inc (and other cancers of this type)
- Black Rock, Vanguard and the UN
I’m surprised none of those verifiable core factors were mentioned in this near 30min long video. But good you have the overall correct and sound view on this issue.
Ohh can you give me a run down on how these affected the turn to uglification?
Sydney nails the target when she asks, "Why can't women be both sexy and strong?". They aren't mutually exclusive.
And also, it's just not realistic if women show signs of being overweight in an action game. Take Marvel's Captain America. He is supposed to be a superhero who is ridiculously strong and fast. Because of this, Marvel went to Chris Evans and said, "You better get freaking ripped for this film." Could you imagine if they wanted to add representation and allow Chris Evans to get overweight for the role? It would look absolutely ridiculous because we all know that's not realistic, regardless of how it's not "representative".