"Charlie, i'd like you to meet someone" *happy gasps* "really?! who is it, mom?!" *happy noises* *gestures to Abel* "you wanna introduce yourself to your half sister, Abel?" "i have a half brother-?" "i have a half sister-?" "yes, my children." "SINCE WHEN?!" "since i hooked up with [Adam/Lucifer] and then [Lucifer/Adam]." :/ (it honestly depends on who she hooked up with first tbh) "and you didnt tell us until now????" "i can explain, children!!" "nope. mother-daughter/son day is over. it's sibling time now. bye!!"
I’m on the theory that God used Lilith as his blueprint when he made Eve because he didn’t have much to go off of (because children weren’t conceived yet either) but the only thing that God can’t copy is personality.
I think he looks really nice actually I always think of people/ cartoon characters as animals (don’t ask me) and off that one picture he gives hard golden retriever vibes so yea kinda excited
I've always imagined Eve as having dark brown/black hair (idk maybe blame it on the silhouettes), but I like the Lilith idea. Gives me reverse-East of Eden vibes fs
What’s interesting is that Adam was said to be the first human soul in Heaven, but that means that Abel would’ve had to die after Adam, but how was Seth born then?
@melodyG.L. I hypothesize that this isn’t the original Abel and that Adam, out of grief of his favorite son being murdered, named another son Abel, but that son could never be as good as the first one(psychology wise, if you neglect one child and favor the other, the neglected child will be nicer than the favored one, who would get an inflated ego)
@ I mostly only thought of that because I need a reason for him to exist in my AU(I made Cain and Abel way back when the full show first came out, as in, way back in February)
abel is the second born so if anyone is gonna be Lilith 's child it would more likely be Cain. can't picture her coming back to get pregnant once Adam is with Eve
@arcadia179 that was my thoughts! That's why when Lucifer did that bow chicka bow wow thing I thought the joke was he was poking fun at the fact Adam had more than one wife, therefore ADAM being the one doing the bow chika?(although why would he poke fun at his OWN wife like that so I also see why people see it the other way)I doubt Lilith would have let him bang Eve or use that as a ploy to get her to eat the apple
I do wish they waited until the first season 2 trailer though, because people who don’t have twitter are probably going to be confused about why everyone is acting like they’ve already seen Abel before.
I would love to know more about Abel, I hope he'll be much nicer than Adam and Lute. He'll definitely get along with Saint Peter, Sera, and Emily. Also I would love to hug Abel so badly now! Plus Abel reminds me of Lucifer because of the design and face.😊😍
Ngl, I really like Abel design very much. He looks so happy and more polite than his father, I just notice the hat he wear is French kepi hat with feather
@@midnight5908Angels in Hellaverse actually as I believe, like in Lucifer tv series. Overall they are positive good heroic characters, but there is examples like Adam, Lute and Exorcists, and Sera, though for Sera I see a redemption arc, which is a villainous characters. I can see Abel be a both villain and hero. At first he probably will have a revenge on main characters for murdering his father, but when he realizing the whole picture he can possibly turned to be a good guy. Or he is a good guy from the start. Also I can see such characters like Elders being one of the Overarching antagonists in franchise, with Uriell being their leader and main antagonist, but Michael the Archangel is a heroic character and major protagonist in the series, like Emily, who just want protect humanity and Heaven and who against exterminations, because he still see a hope in mankind. About Cain well he Absolutly can be a both villain and hero as I see him. Also I want Judas Iscariot to be a character of this series and a good character just like in Jesus christ superstar, who realized his mistake that he had betrayed his own teacher and friend and who wants to receive his forgiveness. Other biblical characters that I would like to see are Jesus Christ, Jonah, Moses, Joseph, Esther, David, Saul, John the baptist, Virgin Mary, Azazel, Pontius Pilate and of course Eve and Lilith as positive heroic characters, and Noah, Elijah, Goliath, Herod the Great, Ahab, Jezebel, Caiaphas, Delilah, and Horsemen and Beasts of Apocalypse, and Damien the AntiChrist son of Satan as a villainous characters.
Sort of related fun fact! There are some religious texts that suggests Abel was the son of Adam while cain was the son of Lucifer/Satan! I don't think this is going to be canon in the show but I just think it's kind of interesting. Personally I just want able to be blonde because Eve may be blonde, having him be Charlie's half sibling is kind of weird imo.
@@Comet346Angels in Hellaverse actually as I believe, like in Lucifer tv series. Overall they are positive good heroic characters, but there is examples like Adam, Lute and Exorcists, and Sera, which is a villainous characters. I can see Abel be a both villain and hero. At first he probably will have a revenge on main characters for murdering his father, but when he realizing the whole picture he can possibly turned to be a good guy. Or he is a good guy from the start. Also I can see such characters like Elders being one of the Overarching antagonists in franchise, with Uriell being their leader and main antagonist, but Michael the Archangel is a heroic character and major protagonist in the series, like Emily, who just want protect humanity and Heaven and who against exterminations, because he still see a hope in mankind. About Cain well he Absolutly can be a both villain and hero as I see him. Also I want Judas Iscariot to be a character of this series and a good character just like in Jesus christ superstar, who realized his mistake that he had betrayed his own teacher and friend and who wants to receive his forgiveness. Other biblical characters that I would like to see are Jesus Christ, Jonah, Moses, Joseph, Esther, David, Saul, John the baptist, Virgin Mary, Azazel, Pontius Pilate and of course Eve and Lilith as positive heroic characters, and Noah, Elijah, Goliath, Herod the Great, Ahab, Jezebel, Caiaphas, Delilah, and Horsemen and Beasts of Apocalypse, and Damien the AntiChrist son of Satan as a villainous characters.
I think Abel is a wasted opprotunity. He could have been a much better antagonist than Adam. He was murdered by Cain his own brother and has a reason to hate sinners. He can't take it out on his brother or he'd be punished 7 times due to the mark of Cain. With no one else to take out his aggression on he directs his attention to the sinners of hell and by extension Charlie who is trying to redeem them. He sees his murderer in every one of these sinners and just goes off the deep end. What better person to oppose Charlie than someone who suffered because of the very sinners she is trying to redeem? Someone who was the first victim. He had everything taken from him.
No, Abel was perfect in god eyes. Pure and faithful. We might meet Cain who makes the better antagonist. Who is probably in hell and still seething in angry over his jealousy of his brother and the fact he ended up in hell. I could see him ending up like Adam thinking everyone should bow down and respect him And might even try to permanently get rid of his brother now that they have a way of killing angels. Abel i can’t see it, he died young Im pretty sure. And there no reason to stay mad if you ended up in heaven where everything is perfect where his mom and dad are at and his brother isn’t there. And is probably like Emily too forgiving and nice but Naive like a child i could see him trying to help sinners become saved since nobody was there to save Cain from himself which cause Abel’s death.
@ There’s plenty of reason to stay mad. He could be resentful he never got to experience Eden because of the sins of his parents. His life was cut short and taken from him by his own brother. One of the very same sinners Charlie was trying to redeem. Cain wouldn’t even be in hell he was cursed to wander the Earth remember? He might not have died and Abel can’t punish him or be punished 7 times. So who does he have left to take his aggression out on? Sinners. Denizens of hell. All that pent up anger and rage could have made him snap.
I like the idea that Adam originally had bright blonde hair too but as he succumbed to his bad side the color was drained from him, his skin tone is also notably a less saturated color.
If Abel turns out to be Lilith’s son that would be interesting because that would mean Charlie has a half sibling she doesn’t even know about, however timeline wise it would make less sense unless Abel in the Helluverse was born in the Garden of Eden. Plus I feel like if he was Lilith’s he would be treated less of a golden child
My brain short-circuited and remembered the whole "blue eyes are a result of incest in the family tree" thing and immediately theorized it was a reference to how Adam and eve are technically related, but of course that's with eyes and not hair. This goes beg the question of how future generations would be handled if Eve was the first and only female human for a while...
@LittleBeanHere oh... My grandparents have blue eyes, my mom has blue eyes, my brother and many cousins have blue eyes... I have hazel eyes thanks to my dad
What bothers me about these is that Adam had a kid and so did Stolas but when Stolas was vanished, his first thought was his daughter and when Adam died he was ranting about how the people murdering him should be worshiping him..
Quella canzone è un fan-Made probabilmente se resuscita come peccatore userà la solita facciata del “Dick Master”, ma in segreto proverà preoccupazione x Lute e Abele, in più Abele è maggiorenne di migliaia di anni, mentre Octavia è Minorenne
Upon seeing him he’s not really what I expected for able, but im thinking that’s the point; from first glance he looks like a boyish, short, jovial butterball type in his marching band uniform. It’s honestly gonna interesting to see what role he plays after his dad died.
i didnt know the bible described its characters physical attributes(im not an avid christian reader, so to say) does it say anything about the rest of their physical appearances? im suprised the bible would give Eve blonde hair because i always imagine the original stories to have more middle eastern influences- but who am i to say?
I’mma need a verse- Like, really. The first humans (according to the Bible) were in the Middle East, not Europe. Not being rude, just curious where you got that. Also, Cain was first.
I’d think he’s actually eve’s child, since I don’t think Lilith had a kid with Adam, and I don’t think Adam would want to keep a kid from his ex since he’s kinda petty. He could be from Eve.
I feel like Eve is gonna be the mother and she's just blonde,probably because she was made to resemble Lilith a little due to being her replacement. Since Able is Adam's second born,Lilith being the mother would either mean she had both kids,which I don't find likely,or Lilith went back to Adam for whatever reason. Maybe when Luci was with Eve.
I feel like the thing no one’s talking about is if Abel’s around what about Cain, you know the first guy to ever commit murder making him one of the first humans in hell
I would give anything to see season 2! I just can't wait to see what evil looks like in this version! But I really wish that Charlie's mother Lilith would be on her daughter's side! It's just that I miss my mother sometimes and ever since she died on my least favorite holiday of Saint Patty's Day 2023, everything has changed and it was very complicated, especially with my father when he was very over protective around me! Sometimes I wish I could go somewhere on my own so I would stay discreet and not let my father notice that I was trying to be the me I wanted to be in town somewhere! Most of the time whenever I see people selling flowers or fruits or other things, I sometimes like to describe the things that they're selling as something that they made me think of! For example sometimes whenever I see jewelry like gems in the pendants, I like to tell that jewelry seller that they made me think of mystical crystals in amulets, even if there are differences between rare gems and mystical crystals! Anyway I'm really excited about season 2 of the Hazbin Hotel, but most of all I wonder if Angel Dust would be free from that mean bastard Valentino! If so I'd be happy for Angel Dust, AKA Anthony!❤
Imo I think Adam is the father of Abel, my theory is that Lucifer is the father of Cain with Eve as the mom. It would also help support why Lucifer is so upset with free will because his son became the first murder because of free will and committed the first sin.
My theory adam was blond but over time darkened to represent how he had the most sin in hesven and made him look more human as abel looks pretty angelic here
I feel like that the Lillith theory is not true, because at the end of season 1, Lillith has to Hell to stop Charlie and her Hazbin Hotel, because Adam died.
I kinda hope Abel and Charlie meet and get along just like she and Emily did and Abel would become a ally to the Hotel and so far I think that’s gonna be the case
Personally I think Eve is the mother. A because in every version of Adam and Eve's story I've seen their the parents, (ofcourse I could be wrong). And B every artistic depiction I've seen of Eve made her blonde so I've always thought of her as blonde.
I get that vivzie is twisting some Biblical lore for her story, but not only was Cain the older brother, but Adam didnt have any children until after being cast out from the garden of Eden, and I feel like those are elements you cant just retcon
I mean, who's to say he wasn't born after Adam was cast out? So far, we know very little of Adam's backstory. We assume that something happened between him and Lillith that drove her into Lucifer's arms and that Eve was his second wife, but that's about it. Maybe there's more secrets there to be found.
Even if Abel's mother also has dark hair, it doesn't make it impossible for her and Adam to have blond-haired children, since the gene for blond hair is recessive
I’ve got a stupid theory and it’s probably gonna be debunked in a day or two but I think that their hair is lighter on how good they are and darker the more villainous they are so Abel is gonna be good and Adam’s hair was darker since he was pretty evil
I'm personally against the idea of Lucifer and Lilith cheating on each other as it is kind of cliche, so I'm hoping neither of them are a parent of Cain and/or Abel. I'm also not seeing anyone bringing up the possibility of Roo having a connection to Cain and Abel. One of the popular theories about her is that Roo IS Eve, so what if Eve was blonde before turning into her Roo persona? That or what if Roo used her magic to alter the appearance of Abel to trick people into thinking one of Abel's parents was someone else. That would be an interesting twist to cause drama. Maybe Roo could also have had a role in Cain killing Abel in the HH universe?
I honestly think it's just that Eve is blonde because it just doesn't make sense why Adam would cheat on Eve with Lillith since he was supposed to be somewhat good when he was still human
Adam looks like he has dirty-blonde hair, and with my experience (I have this hair) you're born with traditionally light blonde hair, and when you age it becomes more brown, especially if you spend a lot of time inside (this is my experience idk if its accurate). Abel might have this same hair color, either its appearing more blonde because he's younger or because Adam spends time in hell and thats somehow affected his hair color.
People forget Eve exists in this universe. Eve might have blonde hair also. Cain and Abel are the sons of Adem and Even. I highly doubt that Adem and Lilith had kids.
Does this mean that either A. We could see Cain as a sinner Or B. Adam litterally killed and or ordered the killing of his own son during an extermination?
@juanjodiazmonges2245 I think A is the more likely option. We probably won't see Cain at all, but Cain possibly checking into the Hazbin Hotel could be a cool premise. Then again, despite Abel seemingly being portrayed as a child, and will probably act similarly to Emily, meaning Cain probably follows suit, I feel like realistically Cain would be an overlord and a really big deal, he's like the first ever sinner (Unless you wanna count Eve, but yknow, she ate an apple, Cain murdered his brother)
@@jakewolf4381Angels in Hellaverse actually as I believe, like in Lucifer tv series. Overall they are positive good heroic characters, but there is examples like Adam, Lute and Exorcists, and Sera, though for Sera I see a redemption arc, which is a villainous characters. I can see Abel be a both villain and hero. At first he probably will have a revenge on main characters for murdering his father, but when he realizing the whole picture he can possibly turned to be a good guy. Or he is a good guy from the start. Also I can see such characters like Elders being one of the Overarching antagonists in franchise, with Uriell being their leader and main antagonist, but Michael the Archangel is a heroic character and major protagonist in the series, like Emily, who just want protect humanity and Heaven and who against exterminations, because he still see a hope in mankind. About Cain well he Absolutly can be a both villain and hero as I see him. Also I want Judas Iscariot to be a character of this series and a good character just like in Jesus christ superstar, who realized his mistake that he had betrayed his own teacher and friend and who wants to receive his forgiveness. Other biblical characters that I would like to see are Jesus Christ, Jonah, Moses, Joseph, Esther, David, Saul, John the baptist, Virgin Mary, Azazel, Pontius Pilate and of course Eve and Lilith as positive heroic characters, and Noah, Elijah, Goliath, Herod the Great, Ahab, Jezebel, Caiaphas, Delilah, and Horsemen and Beasts of Apocalypse, and Damien the AntiChrist son of Satan as a villainous characters.
I as a science nerd would like to say Even if it was Eve and Adam's son they could both be A/a and get a a/a. A/A and A/a being visibly brown hair a/a being visibly yellow hair. Hope it help :3
No lilith being the mother wouldn't make any sense as hazbin hotel is bible based so it wouldn't explain anything as the bible says Adam and eve had 2 children
I just remembered that I dreamed an image of the post when I was about seven and that it was stuck in my head for a while till it disappeared, till now.
it would be so funny if lucifer was the father just cause of that line XD that means he would be charlie's half brother if that being the case,same with lilith,he would stop end up being charlie's half brother ethier way,I do hope we get to see what eve looks like soon,I want to know her hair color now,that way if we know she's not a blond then someone's got some explaining to do hahahaahaha
I'm thinking Eve was blonde and was likely made to resemble Lilith. I don't think there's any way Lucifer could be Abel's father. Lucifer's comment about Eve "liked what he had to give her" was a reference to the apple but made into a sexual innuendo.
Honestly I kinda hope that He’ll probably be a combination of Emily and his father’s personalities cause that’d make him so interesting. He could still be somewhat crazy like his father towards people who deserve it Specifically Lute, but also with Emily’s wholesome nature. Idk it’s more like a balance of the two than just being another Emily who’s already Just a Copy paste Heaven version of Charlie.
I have a theory that eve is the root of all evil because she accepted the apple and if you can compare the silhouette of Eve to Rue I think was her name they look kind of similar
Regardless, it’ll be interesting to see how Abel will interact with Lucifer and Charlie. Given how he looks here I think he’ll be sad about Adam being slain, but understanding since he knew what his dad was like.
Maybe Charlie and him can be friends, he looks quite joyfull. So maybe they would get along with eachother. The theory who the mother is. I think it's Eve, like you said we haven't seen her yet in the show, but from the story were she is from she was "better" then Lilith. Adam found Lilith to dominant, while Lilith saw it as they were made from the same clay so they are equal. Eve is made from one of Adam's ribs so lower then him. Probably making her what men like Adam thinks is the perfect wife, like maybe Eve was when she was still alive joyfull, sweet and optimistic (things that are seen as feminine to a lot of people).
Angels in Hellaverse actually as I believe, like in Lucifer tv series. Overall they are positive good heroic characters, but there is examples like Adam, Lute and Exorcists, and Sera, though for Sera I see a redemption arc, which is a villainous characters. I can see Abel be a both villain and hero. At first he probably will have a revenge on main characters for murdering his father, but when he realizing the whole picture he can possibly turned to be a good guy. Or he is a good guy from the start. Also I can see such characters like Elders being one of the Overarching antagonists in franchise, with Uriell being their leader and main antagonist, but Michael the Archangel is a heroic character and major protagonist in the series, like Emily, who just want protect humanity and Heaven and who against exterminations, because he still see a hope in mankind. About Cain well he Absolutly can be a both villain and hero as I see him. Also I want Judas Iscariot to be a character of this series and a good character just like in Jesus christ superstar, who realized his mistake that he had betrayed his own teacher and friend and who wants to receive his forgiveness. Other biblical characters that I would like to see are Jesus Christ, Jonah, Moses, Joseph, Esther, David, Saul, John the baptist, Virgin Mary, Azazel, Pontius Pilate and of course Eve and Lilith as positive heroic characters, and Noah, Elijah, Goliath, Herod the Great, Ahab, Jezebel, Caiaphas, Delilah, and Horsemen and Beasts of Apocalypse, and Damien the AntiChrist son of Satan as a villainous characters.
A cool theory i have for season 3 or 4 of helluav boss is stella will die at some point let me explain: In the s2 finale we meet the karen client (btw thats her name) and she died from something and after she died we see blitz not kill the dad cause he sees himself in their with him,stolas,octavia,and loona what i think this could mean is that in a future episode stella will meet the same fate as the karen client and die and after that since a royal goetia died an investigation will go into affect maybe uncover her plot to murder stolas or something and stolas powers will be returned and stolas and blitz will finally be together This is just a theory but would make some sense
Welcome to another episode of you are not the father (but seriously merry Christmas everyone and if you don’t celebrate it then I hope today is amazingly perfect)
I think it leans in more to the idea that Able is somewhat seen as a golden child in comparison to Cain.
That's what I was thinking too!
Well yeah. Abel got bashed on the head with a rock by Cain due to jealousy
Id say this is likely. Abel looks lije he has spoiled brat vibes. But im biased against him, because cain got shafted for no given reason.
@@Pauli-dg2yv we all know that
I mean Cain murdered Abel and is either on earth(bible accurate) or in hell@realrealwarpet
"..and the fact that he appears quite happy." DAMN 😂😂😂
Exactly😂
Adam is happy but in a smug way that is putting others down.
LMAO FR 🤣😂👌🎉
@@HelloHamburger yep 👍😂🎉
YEP 😂😎👏👌🎉
If Lilith is the mom, it’s gonna be one weird conversation with Charlie 😂
I dont think either of them know their mothers are the same
@ of course, but when they find out 😈
Same with if Lucifer is the dad.
"Charlie, i'd like you to meet someone"
*happy gasps* "really?! who is it, mom?!" *happy noises*
*gestures to Abel* "you wanna introduce yourself to your half sister, Abel?"
"i have a half brother-?"
"i have a half sister-?"
"yes, my children."
"SINCE WHEN?!"
"since i hooked up with [Adam/Lucifer] and then [Lucifer/Adam]." :/ (it honestly depends on who she hooked up with first tbh)
"and you didnt tell us until now????"
"i can explain, children!!"
"nope. mother-daughter/son day is over. it's sibling time now. bye!!"
@hyenawolftherian Love this
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@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090 I'm actually a sistah lol
@@eclipsedustkitten.12 **Sistah**
Yep
I personally think Eve is just a near perfect copy or replica of Lilith, and that the "Lilith" we see at the end of Season 1 is Eve.
Or Lilith is only in heaven because whatever deal she made with Adam
While I don't think that was Eve at season 1, I do agree about the "Eve looking like Lilith" idea, as it fits with the "Imposter Lilith" theory.
I’m on the theory that God used Lilith as his blueprint when he made Eve because he didn’t have much to go off of (because children weren’t conceived yet either) but the only thing that God can’t copy is personality.
true
@@reimichachaThat is if god actually exists in hazbin, as i don't remember any confirmation of his being
St Peter is obviously the mother
lol
Fr he's definitely gay
@@oj4gottencan’t be he’s in Heaven
@@keandregreen5628 lute HAS said some pretty homophobic stuff
@@keandregreen5628 well I think the creator said that gay people can go to heaven so…
Abels design is so cute tho-
Yeah so is Emily, huge eyes in the corner
@@The_Mad_Potato their just little cuties-
I thought I was the only one, Abel does look adorable
@@cookiesncreamkinglover Have a feeling once we get to know his character we’ll love him-
He just looks like a sweet happy little Fella :3
Why does he look so goddam OBESE @@cookiesncreamkinglover
Nah im tweaking out, when you said "lucifer could be the father" i was like "how tf did lucifer and adam have a kid" 😭
I mean....Lucifer CAN shapeshift. Who's to say he can't just transform the *ahem* Necessary parts.
new crackship just dropped
Why do I feel like the fan art of this already exists…
@@ayylmaotvWhat?😅
@@ayylmaotv I mean.... I already been shipping them so that's a win for me.
I think he looks really nice actually I always think of people/ cartoon characters as animals (don’t ask me) and off that one picture he gives hard golden retriever vibes so yea kinda excited
This made me notice how he kinda looks like N.
He def gives Golden Retriever vibes now that I look closer haha
So true
@@aeiio8372new headcanon until the next season comes out, Abel is just Angel N.
I've always imagined Eve as having dark brown/black hair (idk maybe blame it on the silhouettes), but I like the Lilith idea. Gives me reverse-East of Eden vibes fs
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What’s interesting is that Adam was said to be the first human soul in Heaven, but that means that Abel would’ve had to die after Adam, but how was Seth born then?
Lore might be different than Bible Lore
True theory. Maybe they will go down a different route with this since with what we have now I don't see how Seth would fit in the lore
@melodyG.L. I hypothesize that this isn’t the original Abel and that Adam, out of grief of his favorite son being murdered, named another son Abel, but that son could never be as good as the first one(psychology wise, if you neglect one child and favor the other, the neglected child will be nicer than the favored one, who would get an inflated ego)
@@FlimFlemFlom oh wow, you're good bro
@ I mostly only thought of that because I need a reason for him to exist in my AU(I made Cain and Abel way back when the full show first came out, as in, way back in February)
I can’t take Cain seriously because ever time I hear his name I’m thinking of Caine From TADC😂
Same
*WELCOME BACK MY MEOWING MILK MAIDS.*
Ciaphas Cain.
Caine from the Amazing Digital Circus could very well be named after and for Cain from the Abel and Cain story
same😂😂😂
abel is the second born so if anyone is gonna be Lilith 's child it would more likely be Cain. can't picture her coming back to get pregnant once Adam is with Eve
True!
Unless he is Lucifer’s and Eve’s love child form their bow chica bow wow
@@tahraethestoryteller6079pretty sure that a joke pertaining to the apple.
@tahraethestoryteller6079 would that mean Lucifer cheated on Lilith though??
@arcadia179 that was my thoughts! That's why when Lucifer did that bow chicka bow wow thing I thought the joke was he was poking fun at the fact Adam had more than one wife, therefore ADAM being the one doing the bow chika?(although why would he poke fun at his OWN wife like that so I also see why people see it the other way)I doubt Lilith would have let him bang Eve or use that as a ploy to get her to eat the apple
I do wish they waited until the first season 2 trailer though, because people who don’t have twitter are probably going to be confused about why everyone is acting like they’ve already seen Abel before.
I would love to know more about Abel, I hope he'll be much nicer than Adam and Lute. He'll definitely get along with Saint Peter, Sera, and Emily. Also I would love to hug Abel so badly now! Plus Abel reminds me of Lucifer because of the design and face.😊😍
"And the fact that he appears quite happy" NAHHH💀😭🤚
makes me wonder if Adam is truly happy, or is actually just frustrated-
Able definitely resembles Adam far too much for Lucifer to be the dad
Ngl, I really like Abel design very much. He looks so happy and more polite than his father, I just notice the hat he wear is French kepi hat with feather
Dude I legit scream every time HH news is out. I fucking love this show
In the bible, Abel is the son of Adam and Eve. So I believe that Viv will most likely go down the route of him being Adam and Eve's son
While that is true she dose take some stuff from the real bible half it is her own ideas
Lucifer was banished at about the same time as Adam and Eve and Abel is the second so he cannot be the one who, if he could be Lucifer's son, is Cain.
@@midnight5908Angels in Hellaverse actually as I believe, like in Lucifer tv series. Overall they are positive good heroic characters, but there is examples like Adam, Lute and Exorcists, and Sera, though for Sera I see a redemption arc, which is a villainous characters. I can see Abel be a both villain and hero. At first he probably will have a revenge on main characters for murdering his father, but when he realizing the whole picture he can possibly turned to be a good guy. Or he is a good guy from the start. Also I can see such characters like Elders being one of the Overarching antagonists in franchise, with Uriell being their leader and main antagonist, but Michael the Archangel is a heroic character and major protagonist in the series, like Emily, who just want protect humanity and Heaven and who against exterminations, because he still see a hope in mankind. About Cain well he Absolutly can be a both villain and hero as I see him. Also I want Judas Iscariot to be a character of this series and a good character just like in Jesus christ superstar, who realized his mistake that he had betrayed his own teacher and friend and who wants to receive his forgiveness. Other biblical characters that I would like to see are Jesus Christ, Jonah, Moses, Joseph, Esther, David, Saul, John the baptist, Virgin Mary, Azazel, Pontius Pilate and of course Eve and Lilith as positive heroic characters, and Noah, Elijah, Goliath, Herod the Great, Ahab, Jezebel, Caiaphas, Delilah, and Horsemen and Beasts of Apocalypse, and Damien the AntiChrist son of Satan as a villainous characters.
@ tf kind of paragraph story is this comment
Also Angels can shapeshift and hairdye/bleaching exists and it could just be his Winner form
Sort of related fun fact! There are some religious texts that suggests Abel was the son of Adam while cain was the son of Lucifer/Satan!
I don't think this is going to be canon in the show but I just think it's kind of interesting.
Personally I just want able to be blonde because Eve may be blonde, having him be Charlie's half sibling is kind of weird imo.
True, I hope they just stick with him being the son of Eve and Adam. It just makes more sense to me.
@@Comet346Angels in Hellaverse actually as I believe, like in Lucifer tv series. Overall they are positive good heroic characters, but there is examples like Adam, Lute and Exorcists, and Sera, which is a villainous characters. I can see Abel be a both villain and hero. At first he probably will have a revenge on main characters for murdering his father, but when he realizing the whole picture he can possibly turned to be a good guy. Or he is a good guy from the start. Also I can see such characters like Elders being one of the Overarching antagonists in franchise, with Uriell being their leader and main antagonist, but Michael the Archangel is a heroic character and major protagonist in the series, like Emily, who just want protect humanity and Heaven and who against exterminations, because he still see a hope in mankind. About Cain well he Absolutly can be a both villain and hero as I see him. Also I want Judas Iscariot to be a character of this series and a good character just like in Jesus christ superstar, who realized his mistake that he had betrayed his own teacher and friend and who wants to receive his forgiveness. Other biblical characters that I would like to see are Jesus Christ, Jonah, Moses, Joseph, Esther, David, Saul, John the baptist, Virgin Mary, Azazel, Pontius Pilate and of course Eve and Lilith as positive heroic characters, and Noah, Elijah, Goliath, Herod the Great, Ahab, Jezebel, Caiaphas, Delilah, and Horsemen and Beasts of Apocalypse, and Damien the AntiChrist son of Satan as a villainous characters.
That means Abel and Charlie could be half siblings
Honestly, I'd love to see that
"Your 1st wife didnt seem to hate what i had to offer, and the 2nd, and even the 3rd"
I think Abel is a wasted opprotunity. He could have been a much better antagonist than Adam. He was murdered by Cain his own brother and has a reason to hate sinners. He can't take it out on his brother or he'd be punished 7 times due to the mark of Cain.
With no one else to take out his aggression on he directs his attention to the sinners of hell and by extension Charlie who is trying to redeem them. He sees his murderer in every one of these sinners and just goes off the deep end.
What better person to oppose Charlie than someone who suffered because of the very sinners she is trying to redeem? Someone who was the first victim. He had everything taken from him.
No, Abel was perfect in god eyes. Pure and faithful.
We might meet Cain who makes the better antagonist. Who is probably in hell and still seething in angry over his jealousy of his brother and the fact he ended up in hell. I could see him ending up like Adam thinking everyone should bow down and respect him And might even try to permanently get rid of his brother now that they have a way of killing angels.
Abel i can’t see it, he died young Im pretty sure. And there no reason to stay mad if you ended up in heaven where everything is perfect where his mom and dad are at and his brother isn’t there.
And is probably like Emily too forgiving and nice but Naive like a child i could see him trying to help sinners become saved since nobody was there to save Cain from himself which cause Abel’s death.
@ There’s plenty of reason to stay mad. He could be resentful he never got to experience Eden because of the sins of his parents.
His life was cut short and taken from him by his own brother. One of the very same sinners Charlie was trying to redeem.
Cain wouldn’t even be in hell he was cursed to wander the Earth remember? He might not have died and Abel can’t punish him or be punished 7 times. So who does he have left to take his aggression out on?
Sinners. Denizens of hell. All that pent up anger and rage could have made him snap.
checks out with LuLu hating Sinners? hmm
@@PRISMSHOWERS_P Abel would also be a victim of Lucifers choice. Cain used that gift of free will to murder Abel.
I like the idea that Adam originally had bright blonde hair too but as he succumbed to his bad side the color was drained from him, his skin tone is also notably a less saturated color.
If Abel turns out to be Lilith’s son that would be interesting because that would mean Charlie has a half sibling she doesn’t even know about, however timeline wise it would make less sense unless Abel in the Helluverse was born in the Garden of Eden. Plus I feel like if he was Lilith’s he would be treated less of a golden child
My brain short-circuited and remembered the whole "blue eyes are a result of incest in the family tree" thing and immediately theorized it was a reference to how Adam and eve are technically related, but of course that's with eyes and not hair.
This goes beg the question of how future generations would be handled if Eve was the first and only female human for a while...
WAIT WHAT!?
@@midnights2631😭
@LittleBeanHere oh... My grandparents have blue eyes, my mom has blue eyes, my brother and many cousins have blue eyes... I have hazel eyes thanks to my dad
@@midnights2631 pause... 🤨
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Adam’s getting roasted for his depression
What bothers me about these is that Adam had a kid and so did Stolas but when Stolas was vanished, his first thought was his daughter and when Adam died he was ranting about how the people murdering him should be worshiping him..
Quella canzone è un fan-Made probabilmente se resuscita come peccatore userà la solita facciata del “Dick Master”, ma in segreto proverà preoccupazione x Lute e Abele, in più Abele è maggiorenne di migliaia di anni, mentre Octavia è Minorenne
In più Octavia adesso nn ha più nessuno che la ama, mentre Abele è circondato da brave persone, quindi Adamo sa che in buone mani
@ENDERDARK0 good reasoning however I don’t think Adam would care if his child was dying tho
To be fair Adam didn’t know he was gonna die and probably couldn’t say much after getting stabbed repeatedly in the chest
Plus like...Adam sees all humans as being his, Cain and Abel being the first probably don't make them special to him lol
Upon seeing him he’s not really what I expected for able, but im thinking that’s the point; from first glance he looks like a boyish, short, jovial butterball type in his marching band uniform. It’s honestly gonna interesting to see what role he plays after his dad died.
Imagine charlie meet him
They will be bestie
I really think its Eve bc Abel is the first child that was created by Adam and Eve, Eve has blonde hair acording to the bible ❤
i didnt know the bible described its characters physical attributes(im not an avid christian reader, so to say) does it say anything about the rest of their physical appearances? im suprised the bible would give Eve blonde hair because i always imagine the original stories to have more middle eastern influences- but who am i to say?
Wasn’t Cain the first Child of Adam and Eve with Abel being the second
I’mma need a verse- Like, really. The first humans (according to the Bible) were in the Middle East, not Europe. Not being rude, just curious where you got that. Also, Cain was first.
@ yea cain was first thats true
I’d think he’s actually eve’s child, since I don’t think Lilith had a kid with Adam, and I don’t think Adam would want to keep a kid from his ex since he’s kinda petty. He could be from Eve.
Lucifer could be the Dad ... Ayo? Lucy knocked up Adam too?
What 💀 no-
Makes sense.
It could also be that Abel's father is actually really dark, dirty blonde. Mousy brown hair is technically dark dirty blonde hair
I feel like Eve is gonna be the mother and she's just blonde,probably because she was made to resemble Lilith a little due to being her replacement.
Since Able is Adam's second born,Lilith being the mother would either mean she had both kids,which I don't find likely,or Lilith went back to Adam for whatever reason. Maybe when Luci was with Eve.
I feel like the thing no one’s talking about is if Abel’s around what about Cain, you know the first guy to ever commit murder making him one of the first humans in hell
According to verses in genesis, Abel is Eve’s son. Cain murdered him because Abel had a more favorable offering than Cain. He did it out of jealousy.
I would give anything to see season 2! I just can't wait to see what evil looks like in this version! But I really wish that Charlie's mother Lilith would be on her daughter's side! It's just that I miss my mother sometimes and ever since she died on my least favorite holiday of Saint Patty's Day 2023, everything has changed and it was very complicated, especially with my father when he was very over protective around me! Sometimes I wish I could go somewhere on my own so I would stay discreet and not let my father notice that I was trying to be the me I wanted to be in town somewhere! Most of the time whenever I see people selling flowers or fruits or other things, I sometimes like to describe the things that they're selling as something that they made me think of! For example sometimes whenever I see jewelry like gems in the pendants, I like to tell that jewelry seller that they made me think of mystical crystals in amulets, even if there are differences between rare gems and mystical crystals! Anyway I'm really excited about season 2 of the Hazbin Hotel, but most of all I wonder if Angel Dust would be free from that mean bastard Valentino! If so I'd be happy for Angel Dust, AKA Anthony!❤
If Lilith is his mother, you just know Charlie is going to absolutely freak with excitement and joy when she learns she has a brother
Y ñ And who has a family relationship with Adam
Idk I just have a feeling season 2 is coming way sooner than we can actually imagine 🤔
Imo I think Adam is the father of Abel, my theory is that Lucifer is the father of Cain with Eve as the mom. It would also help support why Lucifer is so upset with free will because his son became the first murder because of free will and committed the first sin.
Oo thats a good theory!
Sounds to me like Adam is a good person deep down and a good dad. He just hates sinners and comes of extremely confident.
I agree
He was necessarily a good person when he died because the system of heaven is impartial.
Please don’t be evil. Please don’t be evil. Please don’t be evil. Please don’t be evil. Please-
My theory adam was blond but over time darkened to represent how he had the most sin in hesven and made him look more human as abel looks pretty angelic here
I feel like that the Lillith theory is not true, because at the end of season 1, Lillith has to Hell to stop Charlie and her Hazbin Hotel, because Adam died.
DAMN IMAGINE ABEL WAS ACTUALLY CHARLIE’S HALF-SIBLING SO CHARLIE HAD EMILY AND ABEL ON HER SIDE FROM HEAVEN….
Abel Looks More Like Lucifer Than Anyone Tbh, Even The Bells He’s Holding Are Like Apples.
The bells look kinda like roses too
@Alastors_biggest_fan so.. apples and roses with tree symbolism?
@ hmmmm, dunno or we’re just trying to find symbolism when they’re simply bells lol-
I kinda hope Abel and Charlie meet and get along just like she and Emily did and Abel would become a ally to the Hotel and so far I think that’s gonna be the case
Personally I think Eve is the mother. A because in every version of Adam and Eve's story I've seen their the parents, (ofcourse I could be wrong). And B every artistic depiction I've seen of Eve made her blonde so I've always thought of her as blonde.
Emily in the picture just looking so happy is just cute
I get that vivzie is twisting some Biblical lore for her story, but not only was Cain the older brother, but Adam didnt have any children until after being cast out from the garden of Eden, and I feel like those are elements you cant just retcon
I mean, who's to say he wasn't born after Adam was cast out? So far, we know very little of Adam's backstory. We assume that something happened between him and Lillith that drove her into Lucifer's arms and that Eve was his second wife, but that's about it. Maybe there's more secrets there to be found.
When I started watching this short I was like “oh so lilith’s the mom- wait how does that work with Eve” like how did my brain fail to load that badly
I don’t know why this “abel” fella is blonde
But I do could agree with the theories fans came up with
Because everyone is a blue eyed blonde in every single lore.
Even if Abel's mother also has dark hair, it doesn't make it impossible for her and Adam to have blond-haired children, since the gene for blond hair is recessive
I’ve got a stupid theory and it’s probably gonna be debunked in a day or two but I think that their hair is lighter on how good they are and darker the more villainous they are so Abel is gonna be good and Adam’s hair was darker since he was pretty evil
Again this is really stupid
I'm personally against the idea of Lucifer and Lilith cheating on each other as it is kind of cliche, so I'm hoping neither of them are a parent of Cain and/or Abel.
I'm also not seeing anyone bringing up the possibility of Roo having a connection to Cain and Abel. One of the popular theories about her is that Roo IS Eve, so what if Eve was blonde before turning into her Roo persona? That or what if Roo used her magic to alter the appearance of Abel to trick people into thinking one of Abel's parents was someone else. That would be an interesting twist to cause drama. Maybe Roo could also have had a role in Cain killing Abel in the HH universe?
I actually did a color search and if you mix Lucifer's Color's with Adam they make Abel SO...
That means that Charlotte and him are half siblings
Yeah she's gonna have a hard time explaining and justifying her employee murdering his dad
I honestly think it's just that Eve is blonde because it just doesn't make sense why Adam would cheat on Eve with Lillith since he was supposed to be somewhat good when he was still human
Wait so Abel could be Charlie’s half brother?
Two people with dark hair can have recessive blond hair genes, producing a blond child. Anybody go to middle school science?
Literally, i am so glad someone was paying attention 😭
I just wish he was brunette he would look so much better 😭
Saying “has the same body type” is basically the nicest way of calling someone fat lmao
Adam looks like he has dirty-blonde hair, and with my experience (I have this hair) you're born with traditionally light blonde hair, and when you age it becomes more brown, especially if you spend a lot of time inside (this is my experience idk if its accurate). Abel might have this same hair color, either its appearing more blonde because he's younger or because Adam spends time in hell and thats somehow affected his hair color.
People forget Eve exists in this universe. Eve might have blonde hair also.
Cain and Abel are the sons of Adem and Even.
I highly doubt that Adem and Lilith had kids.
Does this mean that either
A. We could see Cain as a sinner
Or B. Adam litterally killed and or ordered the killing of his own son during an extermination?
I don't think so, Adam did have ethics up to a point
@juanjodiazmonges2245 I think A is the more likely option. We probably won't see Cain at all, but Cain possibly checking into the Hazbin Hotel could be a cool premise. Then again, despite Abel seemingly being portrayed as a child, and will probably act similarly to Emily, meaning Cain probably follows suit, I feel like realistically Cain would be an overlord and a really big deal, he's like the first ever sinner (Unless you wanna count Eve, but yknow, she ate an apple, Cain murdered his brother)
@@jakewolf4381Angels in Hellaverse actually as I believe, like in Lucifer tv series. Overall they are positive good heroic characters, but there is examples like Adam, Lute and Exorcists, and Sera, though for Sera I see a redemption arc, which is a villainous characters. I can see Abel be a both villain and hero. At first he probably will have a revenge on main characters for murdering his father, but when he realizing the whole picture he can possibly turned to be a good guy. Or he is a good guy from the start. Also I can see such characters like Elders being one of the Overarching antagonists in franchise, with Uriell being their leader and main antagonist, but Michael the Archangel is a heroic character and major protagonist in the series, like Emily, who just want protect humanity and Heaven and who against exterminations, because he still see a hope in mankind. About Cain well he Absolutly can be a both villain and hero as I see him. Also I want Judas Iscariot to be a character of this series and a good character just like in Jesus christ superstar, who realized his mistake that he had betrayed his own teacher and friend and who wants to receive his forgiveness. Other biblical characters that I would like to see are Jesus Christ, Jonah, Moses, Joseph, Esther, David, Saul, John the baptist, Virgin Mary, Azazel, Pontius Pilate and of course Eve and Lilith as positive heroic characters, and Noah, Elijah, Goliath, Herod the Great, Ahab, Jezebel, Caiaphas, Delilah, and Horsemen and Beasts of Apocalypse, and Damien the AntiChrist son of Satan as a villainous characters.
I as a science nerd would like to say Even if it was Eve and Adam's son they could both be A/a and get a a/a. A/A and A/a being visibly brown hair a/a being visibly yellow hair. Hope it help :3
Ty because idk why there are theorys for this when it was most likely a design choice
I thought maybe they did it just to make him stand out from Adam more since he does look similar to him
Yes, he is like a little Adam, the only thing different is his hair.
No lilith being the mother wouldn't make any sense as hazbin hotel is bible based so it wouldn't explain anything as the bible says Adam and eve had 2 children
My theory is that Adam had an affair with St. Peter!😂
Bro ain’t dropping show lore he’s dropping religion lore
I just remembered that I dreamed an image of the post when I was about seven and that it was stuck in my head for a while till it disappeared, till now.
The hazbin hotel Contents are MASSIVE i Watch them even id my phone battery Is LOW and i watch these CRAZY videos
I think it’s gonna be that Lilith and Eve are gonna be more like twins since Lilith is more of the “prototype”
Abel, Adams son. LUCIFERS THE DAD!
it would be so funny if lucifer was the father just cause of that line XD that means he would be charlie's half brother if that being the case,same with lilith,he would stop end up being charlie's half brother ethier way,I do hope we get to see what eve looks like soon,I want to know her hair color now,that way if we know she's not a blond then someone's got some explaining to do hahahaahaha
It is practically impossible for Lucifer to be the father
Emily's little smile in the corner of the picture is so cute.
Ok, I am so hyped to see Cain
I'm thinking Eve was blonde and was likely made to resemble Lilith.
I don't think there's any way Lucifer could be Abel's father. Lucifer's comment about Eve "liked what he had to give her" was a reference to the apple but made into a sexual innuendo.
God i want to see Cain's design so F*CKING *MUCH*
I feel like people are clutching at the tiniest things now
He looks like if Lucifer impregnated St Peter
New ship unlock
I feel like Ables going to be a cuddly teddy bear of a character and when Cain is revealed many woth thirst for him
Honestly I kinda hope that He’ll probably be a combination of Emily and his father’s personalities cause that’d make him so interesting.
He could still be somewhat crazy like his father towards people who deserve it Specifically Lute, but also with Emily’s wholesome nature.
Idk it’s more like a balance of the two than just being another Emily who’s already Just a Copy paste Heaven version of Charlie.
Wait: Lucifer take care of Charlie and Lilith take care of Abel, this would be cool
So…Charlie would have a brother or step brother
I think like half brother
Emily just :3
I have a theory that eve is the root of all evil because she accepted the apple and if you can compare the silhouette of Eve to Rue I think was her name they look kind of similar
What does that have to do with Abel blonde hair
Regardless, it’ll be interesting to see how Abel will interact with Lucifer and Charlie. Given how he looks here I think he’ll be sad about Adam being slain, but understanding since he knew what his dad was like.
alright most important question...
Who's the mom?
Maybe Charlie and him can be friends, he looks quite joyfull. So maybe they would get along with eachother.
The theory who the mother is. I think it's Eve, like you said we haven't seen her yet in the show, but from the story were she is from she was "better" then Lilith.
Adam found Lilith to dominant, while Lilith saw it as they were made from the same clay so they are equal. Eve is made from one of Adam's ribs so lower then him. Probably making her what men like Adam thinks is the perfect wife, like maybe Eve was when she was still alive joyfull, sweet and optimistic (things that are seen as feminine to a lot of people).
Angels in Hellaverse actually as I believe, like in Lucifer tv series. Overall they are positive good heroic characters, but there is examples like Adam, Lute and Exorcists, and Sera, though for Sera I see a redemption arc, which is a villainous characters. I can see Abel be a both villain and hero. At first he probably will have a revenge on main characters for murdering his father, but when he realizing the whole picture he can possibly turned to be a good guy. Or he is a good guy from the start. Also I can see such characters like Elders being one of the Overarching antagonists in franchise, with Uriell being their leader and main antagonist, but Michael the Archangel is a heroic character and major protagonist in the series, like Emily, who just want protect humanity and Heaven and who against exterminations, because he still see a hope in mankind. About Cain well he Absolutly can be a both villain and hero as I see him. Also I want Judas Iscariot to be a character of this series and a good character just like in Jesus christ superstar, who realized his mistake that he had betrayed his own teacher and friend and who wants to receive his forgiveness. Other biblical characters that I would like to see are Jesus Christ, Jonah, Moses, Joseph, Esther, David, Saul, John the baptist, Virgin Mary, Azazel, Pontius Pilate and of course Eve and Lilith as positive heroic characters, and Noah, Elijah, Goliath, Herod the Great, Ahab, Jezebel, Caiaphas, Delilah, and Horsemen and Beasts of Apocalypse, and Damien the AntiChrist son of Satan as a villainous characters.
I already love that little guy
A cool theory i have for season 3 or 4 of helluav boss is stella will die at some point let me explain:
In the s2 finale we meet the karen client (btw thats her name) and she died from something and after she died we see blitz not kill the dad cause he sees himself in their with him,stolas,octavia,and loona what i think this could mean is that in a future episode stella will meet the same fate as the karen client and die and after that since a royal goetia died an investigation will go into affect maybe uncover her plot to murder stolas or something and stolas powers will be returned and stolas and blitz will finally be together
This is just a theory but would make some sense
Welcome to another episode of you are not the father (but seriously merry Christmas everyone and if you don’t celebrate it then I hope today is amazingly perfect)
What if......Hear me out now........they just wanted to GIVE him blonde hair
The thing is it says that Adam was the first one in heaven but Abe was killed by Kane then was shuned by his father
Maybe Eve was blonde *gasp* ✨genetics✨