It's Gonna Get Worse.... Power Of The Internet - Gamergate Edition

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Комментарии • 377

  • @MadamRoastBeefYT
    @MadamRoastBeefYT 6 месяцев назад +74

    Could NOTTTT Agree with you & your opinion, Boogie! As a GAY AF Gamer, I have always wanted to SEEE Some showcasing's of my community... But it does get to a point where it absolutely feels forced... & I think it is just so bizarre. 😕🤷‍♀️😅 Hahaha

    • @nightmaregaminggg6808
      @nightmaregaminggg6808 6 месяцев назад +36

      As a Christian I don't mind gays having rights and all the freedoms I enjoy. I just think how annoying it'd be if EVERYTHING had Jesus smacked onto it to pander to Christians. It'd be annoying even to me LOL. We can all disagree and still be friends.

    • @arkainin4638
      @arkainin4638 6 месяцев назад +11

      The problem is bad content, not representation. A lot of times you end up with a bad story or a bad game, that also just happens to be pushing for diversity, and the entire focus for these trolls is the representation, not the objectively bad story. Tells you where their hearts really are.
      I personally don't think there is such a thing as too much diversity or forced diversity. There are just bad games that use DEI as a shield, bigots who can't handle black people or gays in their games, and then the rest of us annoyed that the creeps keep harping about how the gays are ruining their games.

    • @MadamRoastBeefYT
      @MadamRoastBeefYT 6 месяцев назад +5

      Agree more* haha RUclips of course wouldn't let me edit my comment... 🤦‍♀️🤣😝

    • @chentz2d552
      @chentz2d552 6 месяцев назад

      @@nightmaregaminggg6808 You are a FAKE Christian is you agree with the GAY agenda, in the eyes of GOD, homosexuality is detestable act/sin.
      Leviticus 18:22
      "Do not practice homosexuality, having s*x with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin."
      The rest of the scripture against homosexuality can't be written here in RUclips.

    • @chentz2d552
      @chentz2d552 6 месяцев назад

      The WOKE GAY agenda is "bizarre".

  • @PRATERVXEX
    @PRATERVXEX 6 месяцев назад +25

    Please stay on track with this sort of stuff man. You just ended a man’s career which was fucking fantastic, I understand it’s controversial to some but you’re in a happy relationship, you’re killing it on the new podcast, it’s good to see you like this.

    • @Hiddenpringle
      @Hiddenpringle 6 месяцев назад +3

      Huge ups for boogie these days. Redemption arc incoming

    • @Sal13414
      @Sal13414 6 месяцев назад

      @@HiddenpringleRedemption arc when hes still a POS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @tbeast151
      @tbeast151 5 месяцев назад

      Get a life

    • @animamaster
      @animamaster 3 месяца назад +1

      Bruh, this man has not changed at all

  • @miamismallman
    @miamismallman 6 месяцев назад +12

    “I PLAY VIDEO GAMES TO ESCAPE MINORITIES” -boogie2988

  • @tubguinace
    @tubguinace 6 месяцев назад +64

    That's not how or why gamergate happened Boogie... It was about a developer getting a good review on their game when the reviewer was sleeping with her.

    • @enjoi0555
      @enjoi0555 6 месяцев назад +25

      Why are people forgetting this? It bc these “content creators” are grifting and trying to make a nothing burger into a get rich quick scheme

    • @sticks7857
      @sticks7857 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@enjoi0555 I don't think he's grifting so much as realizing he blindly trusted the wrong side the first time and is rectifying that mistake this time around. Regardless though him trying to do a retelling of what happened when he had no idea himself and only trusted what he was told through the grapevine makes for a terrible start to this video and doesn't do him any favors in the eyes of the people he's trying to appeal to.

    • @enjoi0555
      @enjoi0555 6 месяцев назад +12

      @@sticks7857 There’s no “this time around” this entire thing is blown way out of proportion and nothing like the “first” gamergate.

    • @stonedgamer2892
      @stonedgamer2892 6 месяцев назад

      THISSSS

    • @MisogynyMan
      @MisogynyMan 6 месяцев назад

      What you described was one of the firecrackers that set the looming firehazard off.
      It was going to happen either way. But feel free to pretend that's all it was.

  • @AdamMichalMarkowski
    @AdamMichalMarkowski 6 месяцев назад +28

    "Gimme a game with short, fat character blind in one eye" - Boogie, no! We do not need Ethan Ralph being put into a videogame!

    • @Deoxy360
      @Deoxy360 6 месяцев назад +7

      Stealth mission: Tail Gate Chris Chan to the hotel and camp outside.

  • @graveborne8724
    @graveborne8724 6 месяцев назад +10

    I agree. I'll play any game no matter the protagonist IF the character is well written and makes some kind of sense. If the game contains "the message" throughout, I wont play it,

    • @arkainin4638
      @arkainin4638 6 месяцев назад +3

      If your issue issue is the woke message rather than the bad game then it sure just sounds like you have a problem with the message itself.

    • @bigtone231
      @bigtone231 6 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@arkainin4638I think his problem is that they recently have been trying to force these "messages" into video games.

    • @arkainin4638
      @arkainin4638 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@bigtone231 Define forced. I don't think a race swap or focusing on stories that highlight real diversity issues is being forced. That's just focusing on things that don't directly pertain to you.
      I get it. You might not be as interested in a game that digs deep into cultural issues for a race or people that you have nothing to do with.
      You might not identify with a cast of mostly black characters or people who are of different orientations than you.
      And that is exactly how all the people not being portrayed have always felt.
      That's the entire point, to allow for greater representation and diversity to appeal to people traditionally left out in the cold.
      If that is your problem, then you inherently just have a problem with minority people being in your game.
      There are thousands of games published every day. The vast majority of them still focus on the majority of characters and issues and religion based on Western culture.
      Hell, most of these so-called "woke" games still end up having a white male protagonist or a story very much focused on traditional plot devices. They just then will have a token trans person or will have a simple UI switch to allow for pronouns.
      These are tiny small attempts to get the progressive crowd and yet people lose their minds over them.
      AzzHeelVersusBabyFace just went viral for this. Starfield, an objectively mid-game that failed in a lot of ways gets a pass on the shit gameplay and bad design because herr, durr, pronouns.
      Point being, it's the bad game, not the diversity in it. If you don't like the game because of the diversity, then you just don't like diversity and should ask yourself why this is.
      This is coming from a cis white dude who grew up in the 90s and for a long time held the same views as people like The Quartering and who got upset when I saw woke stuff in games.
      One day I just suddenly realized, the woke stuff bothered me because it felt like I was losing my place in the industry. This was my thing. I grew up on it. I loved it long before all these woke people did, and now they are infecting my games with their nonsense.
      Realizing my issue was not the game, but rather my own hangup helped me see that diversity is not the problem, it's just bad games and personal problems.

    • @theodis8134
      @theodis8134 6 месяцев назад

      What message?

    • @LudwigHorsecock
      @LudwigHorsecock 5 месяцев назад

      So you’ll play every game then

  • @1Onsokumaru1
    @1Onsokumaru1 6 месяцев назад +4

    As someone who primarily plays Japanese, Korean and Chinese games, and also stays away from western AAA titles, I’m glad this is happening so people can wake the fuck up and fight back against this stupidity

    • @AIChameleonMusic
      @AIChameleonMusic 6 месяцев назад

      Guild Wars 2 has been a great game since 2012 so I tend to agree ^

  • @darklotus5309
    @darklotus5309 6 месяцев назад +5

    May I suggest calling it fake diversity instead of forced. Fake in the sense that it’s plastic & not in the interest of the experience. It tokenizes the marginalized & uses them for appearance sake.

  • @BoboBreez
    @BoboBreez 6 месяцев назад +4

    Nice, I think I'll listen to this during my workout

  • @phatpolofish
    @phatpolofish 6 месяцев назад +21

    The problem is the US and its obsession with identity politics, the rest of the world can see that corporate greed is the problem with gaming and wanting everything to appeal to every demographic. Having gay or black people in games isn't the issue and it's insane how people have been played to believe that blaming mediocre games on a tiny group of 16 consultants.

    • @theodis8134
      @theodis8134 6 месяцев назад

      Because the whole gamergate thing in the first place was to push people to the right. The last thing the drivers of the movement want to do is get people blaming capitalism.

    • @bluemanwelder
      @bluemanwelder 6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks, Obama.

    • @MH-bw9zt
      @MH-bw9zt 6 месяцев назад +1

      "having gay or black people in games isn't the issue". Always comes off as disingenuous af. The thing people are complaining about is the fact that there are gay and black characters or whatever. It's annoying that they just cannot admit that they hate gays and whoever else, and do not want to see those characters in media. No one can ever say what they think is a "forced diverse" game vs a game that has what they say is "genuine diverse".

    • @captainazrale4404
      @captainazrale4404 5 месяцев назад

      @@MH-bw9ztAgreed.

  • @hamtheterrible7621
    @hamtheterrible7621 6 месяцев назад +17

    I couldn't give two shits about diversity in video games - as long as it's in there naturally, Instead we see complete garbage games with garbage storylines and garbage script pushed on established popular IPs. Like comic books. I used to love comics - now most (except a few indies) seem to be complete and utter trash.

    • @whatgari
      @whatgari 6 месяцев назад

      Are you a straight white male?

  • @winlover37
    @winlover37 6 месяцев назад +10

    I find it really infuriating just how hard gaming journalists are pushing this "harassment campaign" narrative. I must have read those exact words 2 dozen times this past fucking week. Ask yourself why?
    Couldn't be to sway people that aren't gamers/informed to side with them by default. I really want these journos to define harassment because dollars to donuts it's any disagreement with their philosophy. Also toss in disingenuous highlight the handful of idiots that just throw death threats out anywhere and everywhere.

  • @SagaMediaNet
    @SagaMediaNet 6 месяцев назад +13

    From my pov the focus on catering to diversity has come at a heavy price to quality and a focused narrative.
    I fondly love games like shadow the collossus and FarCry3. The focus was more on a consistent narrative and nothing was shoehorned in for the sake of it, it was all their for a reason

    • @spudermoth
      @spudermoth 6 месяцев назад

      It's actually capitalism that ruins modern movies/games. Corperate bodies restrict the artistic and storytelling freedom of the actual people behind the projects.
      Like why are you so angry at diversiry? What does "natural diversity" even mean? It sounds like you're just throwing around a bunch of buzzwords that dont actually mean anything so you can keep being angry over nothing.

  • @jbobdavis1984
    @jbobdavis1984 6 месяцев назад +14

    Someone should make a documentary on Internet fame and how fragile it is.

    • @Salemchevy
      @Salemchevy 6 месяцев назад +4

      Honestly could be a college class like memeology.

  • @jameshofman321
    @jameshofman321 6 месяцев назад +3

    Boogie you said once that your content wasn't that good, I've been watching you for years and I can say you're content is great just make more of it.

  • @JoeBlow-wx7ug
    @JoeBlow-wx7ug 6 месяцев назад +3

    It certainly didnt help the dwarfs in snow white. They took the only movie role dwarfs play and gave it to lgbtq. Sorry but diverstity is not our strength just look at boeing.

  • @spudermoth
    @spudermoth 6 месяцев назад +4

    Can anybody actually define what "woke" means or is it gonna keep being a meaningless buzzword?

    • @Exprisonkoorigaming
      @Exprisonkoorigaming 6 месяцев назад +1

      Woke is forced diversity. Woke is changing story lines from a male to female strong leads just to look good for social clout.
      Thats my definition
      I do agree though people use it as a buzzword, its a bit silly i agree partly with you.

  • @Row-i1o
    @Row-i1o 6 месяцев назад +6

    Gamergate 2 isn't a thing.

  • @jsnification
    @jsnification 6 месяцев назад +1

    I bet all those people screaming created bespoken.

  • @TheBongorock
    @TheBongorock 6 месяцев назад +3

    I'm sick of the trans/whatever movement. It is so full of crap and Riley Gaines exposed the hell out of it.

  • @friekertv622
    @friekertv622 6 месяцев назад +2

    I agree with a large amount of the video, what most companies (like sweet baby inc.) don't seem to realize is, that gamers speak with their money, if a game seems to have forced diversity, they just won't buy it, if a game has a strong story telling and gameplay, and diversity isn't forced, it will be a major success, look at Baldur's Gate 3 for example, you can make a character however you like, and interact with whatever character the way like, have relationships with whoever you want, it is not forced at all and the game is praised by the majority of its players... good games gain fans, who want more from that studio, and who will come back for other IP's, forcing something to a demographic who has no interest in it, is only counter productive.

    • @enjoi0555
      @enjoi0555 6 месяцев назад +1

      That’s a different style of game though. Not every game should be a “create your own character/ interact with whoever you want” Like a game shouldn’t be viewed as trash if it happens to have a black woman lead in the game as the story. Sometimes games will have different walks of life… this entire thing is a grift who gives a fuck about this lol

    • @Uberwenis
      @Uberwenis 6 месяцев назад

      @@enjoi0555 Who gives a fuck about this? Blackrock and Vanguard.

    • @enjoi0555
      @enjoi0555 6 месяцев назад

      @@Uberwenis and apparently 50 year old neckbeards who date 18 year olds. Like Boogie is taking an L on this and anyone else who even gives a crap about this. It’s a grift.

    • @friekertv622
      @friekertv622 6 месяцев назад

      @@enjoi0555 to me personally it doesn't matter what a character looks like, but at the same time it also depends on what kind of game it is, if for example a game is supposed to be historically correct, but then place a protaganist/antagonist in the game that doesn't fit there, it ruins the game for me and prevents me from getting the game, but with Forspoken for example, I was looking forward to that game a hell, it looked like such a fun game, but I was like I will wait for the release and see how it is received, and because of that I decided not to get it (yet), so to me if a game seems fun or good then I wait to get it until it is released and then I see how it is received, walked to many times into the trap of pre-ordering the game and the game being garbage in the end.

    • @SpamMeSpamSpam
      @SpamMeSpamSpam 5 месяцев назад

      bro have you seen their site? its beyond fucking creepy and loaded with P3do Symbolism not to mention its literally baby themed. Red flags 150%

  • @SuperNintendoMan
    @SuperNintendoMan 6 месяцев назад +1

    Damn boogie will be hitting four million soon for the 3rd time

  • @xileets
    @xileets 6 месяцев назад +3

    Log OFF! Best advice that anyone can get about social media BS. Our political situation and landscape would be better. Our mental well-being. Our country and even local communities. ALL would be better if we just logged-off more.

  • @plumber1337
    @plumber1337 6 месяцев назад +5

    An "actually" diverse game?
    HellDivers2: your personal private intimate existence isn't relevant to the story of the game, EVERYONE is cannon fodder to the cause.

  • @plumber1337
    @plumber1337 6 месяцев назад

    10 years ago social media platforms and even RUclips weren't seen as the main publicity vehicles, as such companies depended on publishers and mega companies to advertise their games.
    And the SBI site doesn't have a few games anymore, I wonder why.

  • @5british5
    @5british5 6 месяцев назад +1

    The world was already very diverse untill the progresivew decided to judge everyone by race ,sex and sexuality .

  • @heartsalive3157
    @heartsalive3157 6 месяцев назад +4

    Keep doin this my man I love your podcast it’s the exact length of my walk.

  • @kalsizzle
    @kalsizzle 6 месяцев назад +44

    I thought the woke gaming stuff was going to start going away back in 2017 but it only got worse.

    • @lucasportasio
      @lucasportasio 6 месяцев назад +8

      It still made money back then, now its kinda going broke so hopefuly it goes away

    • @arkainin4638
      @arkainin4638 6 месяцев назад +19

      Funny how people never complain about bad content, stories, or characters, they just whine about pronouns or it being woke. Tells me it's not actually about the content, but the gays/black/whatever daring to intrude on your special place.
      Not saying you specifically, more just an observation that anti-woke people set the narrative how games being bad due to woke agendas while never actually commenting on the story or gameplay or characters aside from that.

    • @lucasportasio
      @lucasportasio 6 месяцев назад

      @@arkainin4638 thats a Very dishonest take. We complain about forced divercity BECAUSE it waters down the story, narrows characters to their physical traits or sexuality. This DEI bullshit narrows stories down to opressor and opressed, paints the MAJORITY of the consumers as evil for just being born the way they are (white and male) , It talks down to minorities, like we need any more fucking condescending by white women that mean well and white saviours who want their egos stroked. By all Tell gay, trans, black stories, but make them PEOPLE, not a one dimensional fucking pony you can take to the show

    • @Milkiy-Hazard
      @Milkiy-Hazard 6 месяцев назад +1

      I am so happy people finally start talking about this. censorship must stop at all cost

    • @Noah-pr2or
      @Noah-pr2or 6 месяцев назад

      You sound like the problem.​@@arkainin4638

  • @plopperator
    @plopperator 5 месяцев назад

    I've never heard of Sweet Baby Inc. They sound bloody awful. I can't see why a company like that even exists.

  • @player1_fanatic
    @player1_fanatic 6 месяцев назад +1

    I do not remember anything about forced diversity during first gamer gate. At least not as a main focus.
    There were issues with gaming media that sparked the whole thing, cultural clash due to feminist frequency and a whole gamers are dead narrative.

    • @player1_fanatic
      @player1_fanatic 6 месяцев назад

      With that said, what Americans call forced diversity, we Europeans called "Americanism" of culture, a concept of whatever setting you make in any media, it needs to resemble the melting pot that is modern day America, even when it makes no sense (like in historical setting).

    • @vampire847
      @vampire847 6 месяцев назад

      @@player1_fanatic The people pushing that crap hate America though....

  • @tchakaflockaflame5622
    @tchakaflockaflame5622 6 месяцев назад +1

    16:00 I'm glad I saw another video that showed the FULL context of this because that's not even what she said. Why lie about it?

  • @vitgerivaz
    @vitgerivaz 6 месяцев назад +3

    Gamergate wasn't about diversity, it was about ethics in journalism. The straw that broke the camel's back was Zoe Quinn sleeping with no less than FIVE MEN in exchange for clout and positive reviews for an otherwise trash game.
    This even started the whole meme where quinn would be referred to as FIVE GUYS BURGERS AND FRIES (a famous fast food chain in the US).

    • @SPM0717
      @SPM0717 6 месяцев назад

      Except Quinn's boyfriend himself later said he had no evidence the reviewer had slept with Quinn. Also, if it was about ethics in journalism, why has there only been the one story that kickstarted the whole movement and absolutely nothing since?

    • @vitgerivaz
      @vitgerivaz 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@SPM0717 Quinn later admitted herself that she had had sex for reviews.

    • @SPM0717
      @SPM0717 6 месяцев назад

      @@vitgerivaz Proof? Because the only evidence came from Quinn's angry boyfriend, and no one she allegedly slept with actually reviewed her game. The Kotaku journalist given attention only made brief mention of her game in writing, and that was before he entered into a relationship with her.

    • @DaytonaRoadster
      @DaytonaRoadster 6 месяцев назад

      @@SPM0717 >you got a peer reviewed source for that bro!
      ok reddit

    • @vitgerivaz
      @vitgerivaz 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@SPM0717 She tweeted it out. But if you think i'm gnna waste time digging up a tweet from god knows how long ago, I'm sorry to disapoint. Either believe me or don't. I don't care. But back then it was known.

  • @MisogynyMan
    @MisogynyMan 6 месяцев назад +1

    Be very careful about saying lines like "Every Single XYZ", that never works out well. Makes it too easy for the other side to point out that No its not every single xyz, and they can feel like they got a win.

  • @JustinEmlay
    @JustinEmlay 6 месяцев назад +1

    Add Valiant Hearts Coming Home to the list. The first game was diverse, told everyones story and it was an amazing game! This new sequel doesn't tell anyones story. It simply tells the tale of how B's were heros for joining the Army even though W's are the worst thing on the planet.

  • @minemonster
    @minemonster 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bro how can you claim online bullying hasnt affected your real life when there's a 50 minute docu on YT about how depressed and poor you are because of a reddit post

    • @AllAmericanBadass
      @AllAmericanBadass 6 месяцев назад

      Cyber bullying effect’s everyone differently some don’t realize it till the effects are more severe and some have too much pride

  • @deffcon9
    @deffcon9 6 месяцев назад +2

    12k views. can't get many LA10's for that money :

  • @grizzlybehr1902
    @grizzlybehr1902 6 месяцев назад

    Not sure if anyone noticed this or not but this happened at 21:20 and cracked me up hard---
    "Mr. Beast gets bullied too, oh Mr. Beast blind curedness" 🤣🤣
    Love you Boogie keep killin' it buddy 🤙

  • @graysonvandenbrink1317
    @graysonvandenbrink1317 6 месяцев назад +5

    Its pretty sad that a person is so insufferable that their channel with 4 million subs can't break 100k views on a genuine video.

    • @MoonwalkerWorshiper
      @MoonwalkerWorshiper 6 месяцев назад

      What's the point of those subs then?

    • @judochopna
      @judochopna 6 месяцев назад

      They prob subbed 10 years ago and no longer watch youtube@@MoonwalkerWorshiper

  • @drivetounderstand8579
    @drivetounderstand8579 6 месяцев назад +8

    It wasn't the forced diversity that made me mad. It was when less talented developers sought success through identity politics and were rewarded by trust fund babies in the media.

    • @SOGBigBoss
      @SOGBigBoss 6 месяцев назад +2

      Simple Google search says otherwise.

  • @PlayfulFruitLPer
    @PlayfulFruitLPer 6 месяцев назад +8

    As an LGBT person and the only reason I deem it important to mention that is because I feel like there are plenty of people like myself who don't subscribe to forced diversity quotas when it comes to movies or videos games. People these days are getting upset about games set in a place or made by a certain group of people and said game not representing THEM or acknowledging THEIR identity. My question to that is... why is it the job of a game to represent ANYONE? The game should only represent itself and to expect and REQUIRE a game reflect each person who plays it is very weird. I think to me, it all comes back to this need in 2024 for members within the LGBT to get their sense of identity or validation from other people or the media they consume - WHICH IS A PROBLEM. I think if people could generate their own sense of indentity, self worth, and validation within themselves - they wouldn't need to seek it out in every single show, video game, or movie they watch.

    • @LG1ikLx
      @LG1ikLx 6 месяцев назад

      I agree with this. I find all this forced implantation is actual causing a lot of hate towards the LGBTQ+ community, as people are blaming them for what is happening to entertainment media. It's companies just trying to prove that they care for extra points, when actually I say it shows the complete opposite because they aren't doing it for the right reasons.

  • @GoombaKungFu
    @GoombaKungFu 6 месяцев назад

    I think characters should just identify by their personalities in games. Rather than their race or pronouns, gender, sex, or whatever.

  • @DarktechKelly
    @DarktechKelly 2 месяца назад

    Find a lake and dive into it.

  • @chasejackson7248
    @chasejackson7248 6 месяцев назад +3

    Layoffs happen in every industry, i remember the left not too long ago was telling us on the right to learn to code if we lost our job, so i will tell them to go lift boxes.

    • @AlphaCrucis
      @AlphaCrucis 6 месяцев назад

      And then blue collar workers were getting suspended for telling journos to learn to code once it was their turn to get laid off.

  • @AIChameleonMusic
    @AIChameleonMusic 6 месяцев назад +1

    its like the "Velma" cartoon its not JUST the fact that its forced diversity with no class its because the fkn cartoon is objectively trash. (and when i say trash i mean the hot smelly wish you hadnt sort of variety)

  • @ghostman2k782
    @ghostman2k782 6 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome video!. Wanted to share my recent experience with forced diversity. I was playing need for speed unbound. The cops are chasing me, and I hear a female officer say, "Let's wrap this up. I've gotta get home to my wife and kid.'...what cop would ever say that during a high speed chase??? It was sooo forced and groan inducing. It really feels like pandering and I just find it off-putting.

  • @frankpartidas2842
    @frankpartidas2842 6 месяцев назад

    these people won't back down and the corporations are with them...

  • @MH-bw9zt
    @MH-bw9zt 6 месяцев назад +3

    "having gay or black people in games isn't the issue". Always comes off as disingenuous af. The thing people are complaining about is the fact that there are gay and black characters or whatever. It's annoying that they just cannot admit that they hate gays and whoever else, and do not want to see those characters in media. No one can ever say what they think is a "forced diverse" game vs a game that has what they say is "genuine diverse". Also there are very few AAA games that have gay characters aside from massive open world games that have tons of characters, and even if theres a gay character in there somewhere, the anti gay people have their meltdowns. Also games that have a ton of characters like overwatch or RB6 or whatever have a couple. They use this ridiculous argument like boogie did where if there is a gay or female character, it has to be a main part of the story. Them being gay has to be central and the game has to be designed around that, there can't just be a gay character. That is absurd.

    • @flyingphoenix113
      @flyingphoenix113 6 месяцев назад +3

      The Walking Dead Game by TT Studios was a genuinely diverse game. Fair gender balance. Black protagonist. They even mocked aging white, male conservatives! Nobody complained, and everyone praised it; that was more than 10 years ago. Contrast that with TLOU 2, or any other recent game that has faced criticism for "forced diversity," and it's pretty clear why the games are viewed differently by the gaming community. One has characters that happen to be minorities, LGBTQ, etc. (ultimately making no difference to the plot and allowing any player to become immersed in the story), whereas the games that receive criticism make the character's minority status CENTRAL to their personality and actively impede most player's ability to become immersed in the game.

    • @MH-bw9zt
      @MH-bw9zt 6 месяцев назад

      @@flyingphoenix113 the fact that you use TLOU 2 as an example for that shows you aren't consistent. How tf is Ellie being a lesbian CENTRAL to her personality? Because her relationship is a huge part of the story or what? Are you going pretend there isn't depth to her character? Also if that walking dead game came out today, the usual people would absolutely complain.

  •  6 месяцев назад

    While escaping reality is one reason to consume media, it can also help us understand and process society and ourselves. For example, playing a game Silent Hill 2 isn't just about having a good time - there are lots of really heavy themes there, not just escapism. No one would argue Lord of the Rings is pure escapism just because it's fantasy, and I think it does games a disservice to say they're "just" escapism or "just" entertainment. Everything with a story worth experiencing will say something about the world and the human condition. Hell, I'd argue even the Mario games have things to say and take stances on stuff - if they didn't, games like Braid wouldn't exist.
    Saying there's forced diversity in all or even a majority of games/movies/etcetera is kind of a broad statement, and one that ought to be substantiated. Looking at the most popular games on Steam, it's titles like God of War and Helldivers. I wouldn't call those examples of forced diversity. I guess we could call Cyberpunk 2077 a 'woke' game because you can make a character that's female presenting but has a deep voice and a dick? But that game isn't really considered a paragon of LGBTQ representation, nor is it unsuccessful.

  • @JonathanEisenzopf
    @JonathanEisenzopf 6 месяцев назад

    Hey Boogie. I was also born in ‘74 and grew up on video games and comic books. I didn’t watch your old stuff, but I like your new stuff. You’ve gotten wise with age. Great job and keep it up bro.

  • @Monika-di7vv
    @Monika-di7vv 6 месяцев назад +2

    Exactly why I'm mostly into Japanese media.. anime, games, visual novels and manga 😁. The more it pisses off the western audience, the better 😂

    • @Monika-di7vv
      @Monika-di7vv 6 месяцев назад

      @@neo-didact9285 I'm talking more along the lines of stuff like Eromanga Sensei, Oreimo, UzaMaid, Astarotte's Toy and Onimai along with games like The Eden of Grisaia and Maitetsu 😆

  • @tamrielspirit3285
    @tamrielspirit3285 6 месяцев назад +1

    Boogie getting a whole new fan base from the right shrewd move

  • @SuperBuddy19
    @SuperBuddy19 6 месяцев назад

    I agree with you Boogie that there should not be forced diversity in video games because of poorly written characters and story written content for games.

  • @ronin4991
    @ronin4991 6 месяцев назад

    40:18 lol that's alright yo, just keep doing your thing 🍹

  • @johndeau95
    @johndeau95 6 месяцев назад +2

    My Battlefield 5 avatar Elsa VonSchnitzel is the most diverse character ever. Where’s my medal?

  • @elbagofcarp
    @elbagofcarp 6 месяцев назад +2

    I find it funny that sweet baby so concered about poc, women, and lbgqt. What about a hero in a wheelchair? When you run into some stairs game over.

  • @ronin4991
    @ronin4991 6 месяцев назад +2

    20:01 I hope this is true c: I like knowing you're happy and able to chill at the end of the day once you log off.

  • @Bus_Driver_Tom
    @Bus_Driver_Tom 5 месяцев назад

    Gamergate 2.0 = Video Game Crash 2.0? It certainly seems like they're intentionally trying to tank the industry with their nonsense. Then add the half baked broken games that are released day one and microtransactions is it any wonder why there's all these problems in the industry? I say let's crash it. I survived the Crash of '83 and we'll survive this one

  • @TheZeldaSymphony
    @TheZeldaSymphony 6 месяцев назад

    I’m behind on your videos.
    I don’t like forced diversity in video games or movies or shows. As a gay man, I don’t like to be reminded of how horrible the real world is. In video games, movies, and shows, I want to see others like me, but i don’t want the story to basically “break the 4th wall” and tell me this person is this way.
    I enjoy imagining I’m in a world where nobody thinks twice about it. There’s no angry mob. There was no need for a movement. The problems never existed because nobody created a hateful rule thousands of years ago.
    A couple shows that I enjoyed where they did it correctly was Another Life and The Expanse. People acknowledged each other’s partners without acknowledging their sexuality or gender. It wasn’t forced.
    That’s a world we will never live in but it’s nice to imagine one where nobody cared about things like that. All that matters is 1) are you a good person and 2) is who you are or what you are doing going to harm anyone else?
    Warcraft in Dragonflight failed hard on forced diversity. There were 4 small questlines where they really put it out there. The heterosexual love stories didn’t have any effort put into them. The writing flowed naturally. It should be the same for all, but they feel they have to force it to feel they’re being diverse.
    Instead of a line like “my husband will help you with the next quest” they would basically treat it like verbal PDA.
    And to top it off, the stories weren’t even good.

  • @FlawlessLego
    @FlawlessLego 6 месяцев назад

    I played hogwarts because I kept seeing so much about it. I knew the political nonsense wasn’t there, and ironically it has a bunch of diversity in it. I’m not even a Harry Potter fan but hey; they got my sale because people couldn’t shut the fuck up about it

  • @plumber1337
    @plumber1337 6 месяцев назад +1

    No offense, but there's somethig rhat you're not perceiving properly: they have ingrained the idea that their morals standards and experiences are the righteous ones and anyone that doesn't agree iare the ines that sre wrong and should the "encouraged" to view things their way.

  • @dreamspheree
    @dreamspheree 6 месяцев назад

    a normal ass game industry worker here, i've been following you more then 10 years dude. and let me tell you this,
    we the normal ass workers we just kill tasks on the endles tasks list to make a game, we love to do it, i love my job and we dont really have a say on the broader sense. we just want to do our jobs keep our jobs in making gamins because really i dont see my self doing something else other then making games. good games bad games, we just wanna make games and people take advamtage of that because at the end of the day we need the payment :) keep being awesome and you developed so much as a person and a youtube i am glad i am here for the ride

  • @barricusbear6769
    @barricusbear6769 6 месяцев назад

    Why don't you force yourself out of that chair and outside to mow your lawn?

  • @AndrewMarloweTV
    @AndrewMarloweTV 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great commentary boogie. I never thought I'd hear you call out forced diversity, but i completely agree. We need new characters that are just good, and not emphasizing how diverse they can be. Sure, diversity is great, but it shouldn't be the main focus

  • @daneshields2015
    @daneshields2015 6 месяцев назад

    Covered a whole lot of truth here. Great listen.

  • @LifeOnPlanetJapan
    @LifeOnPlanetJapan 6 месяцев назад +1

    WOW .. Boobs Orange Soda ... We don't even have this in Japan. I mean the vending machines near my place does have used panties.. but not Oppai Soda .. This just made my day, needed a smile .. Nice .. Wonder if I can import this.. I would so drink this on the show.. totally beats my Boss Coffee 😆😁😆

  • @skeletonmandiecastcollector
    @skeletonmandiecastcollector 6 месяцев назад +2

    The Buzz light year movie is when I was like “WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON” 😮

    • @gsampson97
      @gsampson97 6 месяцев назад

      What forced diversity is there in that movie?

  • @moiucihdaa21
    @moiucihdaa21 6 месяцев назад +3

    Though I agree with the majority of your comments, I think it’s important to remember representation matters. When we use a term like “forced diversity”, it implies that “diverse character” must be BETTER than what exists now otherwise it’s bad. That shouldn’t be the case. There’s absolutely nothing negative about just have a POC be a protagonist and it NOT have anything to do with them being a POC. They can just, exist in the story. Just having the ability to see oneself represented on the big screen or in a game can do tremendous good for young consumers.

  • @SpamMeSpamSpam
    @SpamMeSpamSpam 5 месяцев назад

    So im just saying that SBI is a BAD thing. they have all kinds of unsettling red flag
    shit right out the gate. These guys need to be shut down.

  • @joxetchannel
    @joxetchannel 6 месяцев назад +1

    Who is from Kuzma and Yulik?

  • @Robert-pd8hj
    @Robert-pd8hj 6 месяцев назад

    You should totally start a podcast!! I enjoy listening to you just ramble on and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

  • @mjarbo
    @mjarbo 6 месяцев назад

    This is literally the worst retelling of gamergate I've ever heard. It's almost like he wasn't even there, when he was. Either he didn't pay attention or he's gone brain dead 12:09

    • @Chris47629
      @Chris47629 6 месяцев назад

      The word woke wasn’t even a thing until gamergate was basically dead

  • @gizmo4653
    @gizmo4653 6 месяцев назад

    Asmongold looks like Jared Leto legit haha 😂

  • @Dyndase-29
    @Dyndase-29 6 месяцев назад +3

    These hacks can only write Diversity in gaming by showing who the characters are kissing and complaining about pronouns.

  • @marcoesquandolez4737
    @marcoesquandolez4737 6 месяцев назад

    Taylor Swift likes games. March madness

  • @AlternateKek
    @AlternateKek 6 месяцев назад +1

    im digging the base Boogie arc

  • @jmp01a24
    @jmp01a24 6 месяцев назад

    Video games are portals into an alternative universe. One where you can act out being someone else that you might not be in real life - or it can be. You decide. Fantasy is a realm where censorship should not be an issue. Sometimes I like to explore a HP Lovecraftian horror story. Other times I want a story that emulates real life. Nobody should deny potential gamers their own experience. Censorship is there enough of in the real world. Please do not let in bleed into the realm of fantasy.

  • @homebound-g3o
    @homebound-g3o 6 месяцев назад +1

    Boogie I am glad you brought this topic up. I have felt so alineated as a non diverse gamer. One video game even started by the opening scene of a black female saying racial slurs about white men. I want old school non agenda driven games back personally.

  • @theremphase
    @theremphase 6 месяцев назад +3

    omfg just play games you wanna play instead of engaging in the stupid culture wars! They only people who profit of it are the corporates in charge

  • @mrmeme2780
    @mrmeme2780 6 месяцев назад

    love these longer videos please keep it up

  • @mathewdewsbury9456
    @mathewdewsbury9456 6 месяцев назад +1

    I love playing videogames since i was a little kid, i am in my early 40's and I still play video games.

  • @xSimone92x
    @xSimone92x 6 месяцев назад

    Like I agree but you know these lists aren't just "bad games" in the end any game that dares to try, good or bad, gets on a hate list somewhere because some don't draw the line at "the game/ character has to be good/ make sense" which is such a subjective standard to hold a game to while also making sure sensitive groups aren't being targeted simply for existing in a game world. The line doesn't stop ANYWHERE for some people. That's basically where I'm at. I like fun games. I like diverse characters. I hate bigotry and targeted harassment of any kind. Good video. Very thought provoking. And I listened while playing Dead Cells incase you were curious lol! Much love! ❤

  • @letstrend
    @letstrend 6 месяцев назад +9

    boggie why can't you get like healthy sponsers?

    • @LittlePlant888
      @LittlePlant888 6 месяцев назад +2

      Why would they give him a sponsor in the first place??

    • @TheTrueR1val
      @TheTrueR1val 6 месяцев назад

      you think boggie wants healthy food? he has 4mill subs he can do whatever he wants OBVIUIOSYLY.

    • @blakerodriguez5999
      @blakerodriguez5999 6 месяцев назад +1

      Because I’m sure he is taking any Sponser he can… as any of us would in his shoes.

    • @trollishmc2920
      @trollishmc2920 6 месяцев назад +1

      Who's boggie?

    • @AcidBuu
      @AcidBuu 6 месяцев назад

      Why can't a rock swim?

  • @whatgari
    @whatgari 6 месяцев назад

    I don't play every new game that comes out that was developed in the west so idk what this means by characters getting gender swapped or something. Was a call of duty guy gender swapped? How many games are being remakes with gender swapped and stuff?

  • @CortinasAndClassics
    @CortinasAndClassics 6 месяцев назад

    playing motogp whilst listening Boogie

  • @StevenWallace-x2e
    @StevenWallace-x2e 6 месяцев назад +1

    There is a million games to choose from now a days. If they add this pronoun, race,lgbtqurah w/e bullshit I just won’t play it. Makes things very simple for me.

  • @joshlopez2021
    @joshlopez2021 6 месяцев назад +3

    Has anyone seen the Nickelodeon documentary?

  • @jow04
    @jow04 6 месяцев назад

    what part of alan wake 2 was woke political again? must've missed that part on my first playthrough.

  • @LazyQ8i
    @LazyQ8i 6 месяцев назад

    Yay finally a rambling video, please do more

  • @JanaeRose
    @JanaeRose 6 месяцев назад

    Glad to see Boogie figuring out Modern RUclips. God Bless hope you doing well fam 🙏

  • @ElementofCoD
    @ElementofCoD 6 месяцев назад

    Hope minecraft is still a regular in your house XD

  • @GrifFungin
    @GrifFungin 6 месяцев назад

    Looks like your pressure is down today. ✌🏻

  • @nocturnal6027
    @nocturnal6027 6 месяцев назад

    Lolcow gonna be good this week!!

  • @animeOfDarkness405
    @animeOfDarkness405 6 месяцев назад

    I love playing female characters like bloodrayne and anime games as girls und panzer and playing female characters in fortnite

  • @Crusader1984
    @Crusader1984 5 месяцев назад +1

    I do not like diverse video games. I will not play if there’s LGBT or a black character.

  • @apersonontheinternet8354
    @apersonontheinternet8354 6 месяцев назад

    *points at Celeste, a game about a trans woman that is absolutely an amazing game, whether you like it or not* :)

  • @xAshesxElitex
    @xAshesxElitex 6 месяцев назад

    I don't think GamerGate will ever hit again like it did the first time. What got us the first time was that most regular gamers didn't know that publications hated them, were more so activists than serving their audience. We all know it now! I don't know who even bothers with them anymore.

  • @steveb7144
    @steveb7144 6 месяцев назад +2

    45 minutes? Good god

  • @shadowandsin3593
    @shadowandsin3593 6 месяцев назад

    I feel like Boogie got hate in this heart for fallenstar and frank hassle

  • @mikofi
    @mikofi 5 месяцев назад

    Boogie - you're talking like a "right wing extremist". It's good to use reason and logic in life, including video games. We need good and fun video games and it doesn't matter who they portray as long as the story is good, the gameplay is fun and we can just enjoy it, without being lectured.

  • @dustinuts
    @dustinuts 6 месяцев назад

    It's pronounced "oh-pie". If you're gonna talk about titties you better say it right.