Hope this helps you out! Here are the links 5 lb Cylinder with case and Hose. bit.ly/3C3khR3 10 lb Cylinder with case and Hosebit.ly/4ff62qM 10lb no case no hose bit.ly/3YnQrOM Refillable 1 lb cylinders. amzn.to/40pGsei 2 pack. amzn.to/4f1UpDL Propane Refill Hose. amzn.to/3C040w2 Refill stand. amzn.to/3UucYrY 12' Propane Quick Connect(on-Board). bit.ly/3UsrRLm Blackstone Propane amzn.to/4fGETgD Etrailer Propane accessories. bit.ly/3TkfX63
Yeah that company you're using way overpriced I just looked and get one at Ace hardware for 50 or 60 bucks I don't know what they're doing with all that extra money paying for a 5 lb cylinder for 130 bucks geez are they made out of gold or something
Coleman once sold DOT approved refillables in the taller, skinny size that were painted red, back in the late 1970's. They included a simple vent and had kits & adaptors for refilling.
Thanks... we carry a 5lb and 4 of the Flame King refillable 1lb. I fill them from one of our 20lbs at home before our travels. Keep all of the tanks in one milk crate with hoses.
My Dad was a propane gas man for 25 years. We had no money back in the 60’s but he had plenty of propane. He made an adapter to refill them from a 100 pound tank. I get the safety issues, etc. unless they changed them, the disposable ones have a valve just like a stem on a tire. You slightly unscrew it and it will bleed out once it is getting full. The only bummer with all propane tanks is they expire in 10 - 12 years. I have 20 lb tanks that literally look new, but they have long expired. It costs 50% as much as new to get them re-Certified. Nice video.
Wow, I need to ask Southern States to see what they charge. I just asked someone a while back that wouldn’t fill a 20lb tanks because it was out of date. Thanks for the tip. How are they re-Certified if I could ask?
@@jerrytalley802 We do an inspection on the tank to make sure it's in good condition, then fill it with vapor and then do a leak test opening and closing the main and spit valves to make sure they work and don't leak when closed. Weight on the scale helps you determine if a tank is full, the spit valve keeps you from over filling. A tag is applied to the tank collar with a new date. We are located in northern Michigan.
@@jerrytalley802I’ve had numerous bottles re-certed. They made sure the bottle was empty, and then installed a SMALL amount of propane, and then sprayed All of the exterior fittings, including inside of the hose connection, with that soapy stuff and were looking for any bubbles. No leaks/bubbles, it passed, if bubbles, the top valve gets replaced. I also have a hand held gas leak detector. It’s really handy to have when you smell mercaptan but don’t know where it’s leaking from. I’ve never had a problem in the rv, only 1 time with some of the Frankenstein’ed plumbing I’ve had to do around home.
@@KyleKAPI was told 10-12 years was the hydrostatic recertification period. Wouldn’t that mean they must be not just externally inspected, but also pressure tested?
As a volunteer at Oregon State campgrounds, it always breaks my heart to see all the 1 lb cylinders that just go in the trash - they can't even be recycled! Great information, Jared! (I have a refillable cylinder and refill kit)
I've been refilling the basic disposable bottle for years. I work at a fire and safety equipment shop doing hydro testing of hi pressure scba tanks as well as oxygen, CO2 and others I've had zero problems refilling and using the bottle unless you are incompetent and way over fill the bottle
I was at Walmart to get some 1# cylinders for a Bernzomatic 19425 JT850 Self-Igniting 20,000 BTU Outdoor Torch. I saw the Mr. Heater Fuel Keg and refill kit, and got those immediately. Sure, I have an extension hose for the propane outlet on my camper, but I need the bottle portability to use the torch to start my campfires.
We have a 9 lbs tank and it's one of the best things I've done to help with weight and room. Love that little tank and I've never emptied one in one summer using it for both the weber Q and the Blackstone!
My solutions have been developed over 5 years living in RV full time. I have 16 of the flame king 1ib, a 5lb, and many hoses and adapters. I also have 6 of the 20lb grill bottles. I have 2 bottle heater rigs too.
Good video. I found the small 1# cylinders annoying yrs ago. Learned how to fill em & I still have the adapter too. Now I have a 5 lbs & a 40 lbs tanks that takes care of all my needs. 5lbs for cooking & 40 lbs for li'l buddy heater. Thanks
I have been using. The flame king refillable bottle for the last three seasons. I have a buddy heater and a grill. It works extremely well. And $0.75 vs. $6 it's a no brainer.
Great video but only one thing I see is incorrect, do not insulate the tank while drawing propane from it. Tank requires the ambient air to heat up the liquid in the tank to keep the pressure up for the burner connected to it. Otherwise ice forms up on the tank and pressure drops. It works on refrigerant principles.
Hey Jarred - Thanks (as always) for a great video. Another related topic that I’d love to see you cover in a future video: Use of the low-pressure, quick-connect line on the RV, and (specifically) which appliances work with that connector? I’ve been frustrated many times by the “double regulator” problem, not to mention the multitude of propane stove fittings that are out there. I would love to use our quick-connect for stoves, bbqs, fire pits, etc, alongside our trailer, but I swear every time I buy one, either the fitting is somehow different from the (growing!) collection of adapters I have, or it has an internal regulator and would thus require a major modification to work with the low-pressure LP gas line. A video with a list of appliances (stoves, barbecues, fire pits) that work with quick-connect (-without- requiring modification), and your recommendations for the “best of” those, would be very helpful! Keep up the great work!
Great video! I’ve been using the 1lb refillable canisters for about 5 years. I also have the hose that connects to my 20lb cylinder. I should get a 5lb cylinder for greater portability
I got tired of the 1lb cans not being large enough so I cut the threaded top off an older 1lb can and made a new cylinder that holds 2.5 lbs from a length of 3/16" wall seamless pipe with a same gauge welded cap on both ends. I also installed an under chassis 100lb tank which I removed from a wrecked tour bus, I use that for my refills and outdoor cooking and as a back up for the main supply. I still have the two original tanks up front and I made up a pair of 8" diameter 5lb tanks with regular valves for back up, which get stored underneath. Yes, each homemade cylinder got hydro-tested before use.
We carry a couple of 1lbs Disposable Bottles, just because we once used them. (I should check dates to see if they are expired.) When camping, we do 90% plus of our cooking outside of our trailer. Therefore, for short (7 days or less) we take a 10 lbs tank, for longer we carry a 20 lbs. They are just normal Propane Tanks that we picked up at Canadian Tire. They can be filled at any bulk supply company. The one thing I have found in Ontario, is that most Suppliers charge a Flat Rate based on the size of your tank. We have learned that Costgo weigh each tank and charges you by the Litre. MUCH cheaper!! Most summer I can fill both tanks at the beginning of the season and they will not run out. I then use them as back-up for my BBQ at home.
That's interesting. How much do they charge? It's a $50 investment to buy two of the Mr Heater Fuel Kegs and a fill kit, then after that I can fill a 20# tank at my locale Ace and fill my own tanks.
@ they charge $20 to $30 i believe for a full 1lb tank and $5 if that is a deposit you get back when you return empties or you can pay $20-25 for an exchange of a full one I’m not 100% sure on it as I was going to the hardware store for white gas for my Coleman lantern and stove
@spencerrodgers Wow. That sounds like an absolute rip off of I'm understanding that correctly. They're only $18 to buy on Amazon or anywhere else, then $30 for the fill kit. As long as you already have a big tank for a BBQ grill, that's it. My local Ace hardware fills 20lb tanks for $16.99.
@@WindsorStinks If this moves beyond single use cannisters in California in 2028, I'll worry about it. The 20 lb tank was an upgrade from the small green ones, 4 years back.
I have no problem with the disposable 1lb tanks going away. We've used refillable ones for years that we fill from our 20 or 30lb tanks. We have filled the 'non-refillable' ones in the past but invested in some proper ones because the savings just made sense.
I’ve been using the Flame King 1 lb refillable cylinders for several years and it paid itself many times over. The tank expiration date only applies to propane refillers since they can’t legally do that do so unless it’s recertified. However, you can do so, but use a little bit of not all too common sense. As for 20 lb cylinders, I just exchange them when they hit the 12 year mark. In some cases it’s way more cost effective and less hassle than getting them recertified. P.s. Mr Heater Fuel Keg is another refillable 1 lb option. One nice design is the liquid level bleeder is integrated with a quarter turn key vs a separate allen key which tends to get misplaced every now and then. I just have my extra allen keys stuck to a neodymium magnet on my refrigerator.
I have zero issues with this, disposables have gotten too expensive. I have 6 1lb flame kings and they work great refilled many times. Also mr heater has some options too.
Good information, but, like a lot of people, you misunderstand the part about 'transportation if refilled' (01:17) That's for commercial interstate transportation which is subject to federal interstate regulations, NOT John Q Public who refills a disposable and carries it on an RV across a state line.
Look for this to go nationwide. What set California off is every can that is recycled has to have any remaining propane removed. Then the can has to have a hole drilled in it. Then it’s crushed and melted. Many recyclers aren’t taking them anymore because they cost more to process than they’re worth. California generates 13 million of them a year.
One thing that might bite you with these smaller containers... a lot of the refill places near me charge a minimum fill fee, meaning it could cost $25 or more to fill one of these smaller containers. IMHO it's definably worth investing in the tools to refill you own. ...or you can be a retro wacko like me and still use good old white gas camping gear. A can of camping fuel lasts a loooooonng time.
I've been refilling normal green ones full time 6 years some even the same tanks i started with. More Cal BS uneeded regulation. Whens the last time a news reported story included a refilled green 1lb tank.
I can get 8 or 10 cooks from a 1-lb bottle using my Coleman stove. With my Little Buddy Heater, on Low setting, I can get approx. 6 or 7 hours of continuous heat with the 1-lb bottle. I'm looking at getting a 3-lb tank, if I can find one, with a hose adapter.
The option of using your own board propane would be much preferable to me. Takes a little more forethought and work up front but after you got it figured out it should be the easiest method.
I switched to an induction stove a long time ago. What a relief. With the current pricing on lithium batteries, it is not as huge an investment as it used to be. We have a small electric BBQ as well. Still, we carry a disposable propane cylinder with a small stove as a backup, but we have not used it in over a year.
Thank goodness some states are forward thinking. Reusable helps all of us and is actually more cost effective long term plus keeps things out of the landfills which I suspect you don't want in your neighborhood. You must have a problem efficiency and lack of waste.
I just got two of the Mr Heater Fuel Kegs and like them. I thought about getting a 5lb, but i dont think they're that much more convenient than a bigger tank and they're expensive.
The small use with these cylinders. Is why I bought a old Colman stove . Fuel was $8.00 per gallon. Then the supplier got greedy. Went to $12 .00. I weed it to gas at. ,$3.00+ per gallon.
I have one of these too, from my old tent camping days. Held onto it for any SHTF scenarios. I’ve never run straight gasoline in it though. Do you happen to know if ethanol blended gasoline is OK to run in these? It’s all we have around here.
I refill the green ones. I use a scale, and I’m usually between 15.9oz - 1.2lbs. I have tanks (30) I’ve been using since 2021. They usually get filled 2-3x a year. No problems yet. No signs of rust on the interior. Thicker walls? Ok. I’ve had tanks sit for years before I used them. I have thought about investing in the refillable type.
Small ones are still legal BUT they have to be refillable. That will ultimately be cheaper to refill. People probably can get a bigger one like a 5 or 10, 20 gal for home and refill their own.
We are getting propane at $2.50 a gl. We bought four of the new tanks. I love it. But with the Mr. Buddy, you need to have a filter. That inner corrosive coating, will clog the Mr buddy. We have 4 new tanks, and love them.
My only suggestion would be, after you flip the tank over, open the valve on the hose for a second or two. That purges the air in the hose so you're not putting that into the propane bottle. It's not a big deal, but no need to put air into your propane tanks.
We have a Grand Design Reflection which is plumbed for propane. I believe this is is something Grand Design adds to at least the Reflection if not their other rigs. So much better than carrying the 1# bottles. We have friends who spent $$$$ on a really nice rig but there isn't any outside connections and they are going to have to add this if they want to use their RV's tanks. Probably a good idea to ask the sales person if they are standard and if not have them add the propane connections before they drive off the lot.
FYI - Flame King Refillable 1LB Empty Propane C$63. I use a 20# with hose with certified Big Buddy (green) hose...much cheaper. No oil filter required.
I just bought a portable propane heater for my small travel trailer and had planned for now just using the 1lb cylinders. The idea of the refillable ones sounded great, but I would have to carry an extra 20 lb tank just to refill them. I opted for a 5 lb , so I could have it refilled at any propane refiller .
I haven't used them for years. In fact, I don't think I have ever bought one of the small green cylinders. I always use a 20lb tank with an adapter and hose. Much cheaper.
I use a 10lb propane tank and purchased an extra Mopeka tank sensor. I just added it to the phone app and labeled it “Grille”. The app shows both RV tanks and the grille.
@@duckwacker8720 The term 'approved for transport' is a bit of a DOT legalese and both insurance companies and RV inspections care quite a bit. RVs need to install a certified tank and the narrow blue bottles will pass the test while the green stubbie ones will not. It is just nice to know that the newer 1lb tanks are up to DOT code now as well. This update is particularly relevant to small campervan looking to change over to RV insurance given how they often lack the room for the larger white tanks. Easy to see how the 'approved for transport' term could be misinterpreted though. If you are just tossing stuff in the truck, then yes, then using your own approval is more than enough. Transport what you want .... so long as you are not tossing in so much to need a CDL and hazmat!
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. You realize the canisters are pressure vessels that corrode from the inside, and once they fail, it is catastrophic? For about 50 bucks you can get a tested certified vessel and hose to do this right and safely. Enjoy the Darwin Award, but know this probably hurts someone innocent way before it takes you.
We had a coleman that used them but it never really did the job and then we had this non recyclable thing. We now have a range that we hook to one of our 20 lb tanks and cooking is much better. I hated to get those green things and then throw into the trash, but no more.
I have 2 of the 5 pound tanks that people threw out, I assume they have to be available at local stores on occasion; will note one was vintage(old style threaded female tap) and other is newer type), I am not an rv'er and only got them cause they are small and might make for a decent compressor tank once flushed/etc:P
Funny, my dad had the refillable ones back in the 1980's (but they were longer and skinnier). They went out of style for the disposable ones in the 90's and 2000s.
It's not. He misunderstands, or deliberately misstates the law. For noncommercial purposes, it is not illegal. If you were trying to re-sell refilled, reused tanks THEN you'd have a problem. Refilling your own tanks? No problem at all.
@@somewhat.random I don't think so. First: he isn't the only one that says this. In fact every video that demonstrates this say the same. Second: it says right on the bottle " Federal law forbids transportation if refilled". That's it, says nothing about commerce.
No only is it a fine to transport the non refillable ones after refilling, it also the same for filling them. The "valve" on the top of the refillable one is called a splitter valve and let's you know when the liquid level is has reached 80% which is the legal limit
Read the label on the Disposable propane bottle again. Are you sure it doesn't say you cannot sell them and you cannot ship them by common carrier. That means you can take them along in your own vehicle
@@paulvanderborgt5581 check out the RUclips and Amazon non-paid reviews and then take a peek at the actual product at your local store. You will notice a marked difference in quality and ease of filling. I had been refilling the colemans for years and was skeptical until I saw the actual Fuel Keg at the Tractor Supply. I then decided to pull the trigger because the colemans were not really lasting that long, plus the legalities and possible hazards, the initial cost is recovered after a couple of trips...But that's just me, go find out for yourself, I am pretty sure you will agree. No, I don't live in commiefornia....
@@paulvanderborgt5581 for me it wasn't so much the "legal" but rather the ability to utilize the full capacity of the refillable cylinder vs the used up coleman. BIG difference between the two. The colemans will refill up only so much, and always dependent on the remaining pressure of the larger cylinder.... the "legal" portion is a bonus. Seriously, go check them out at your local distributor, I think you'll appreciate them. If not, nothing lost. :-)
All great advice, but that web site you showed is the highest priced I've ever seen. The big box hardware stores web sites are about half those prices. Sporting goods stores (online or in store) would also be better priced.
Do you have to refill yourself? I wonder if a propane store will do for me? I’m so happy to learn about these refillables. I’ve been wanting to get a propane heater and stove for winter power out emergency and dreading contributing to landfill. But hopefully will not use many tanks, just need to have in prep supplies.
I don't think a normal propane filling station has the connections to directly fill the 1 pound tanks. IMO you are better off using a larger 10 or 20 pound cylinder for what you want anyway. You just need a 15 dollar hose to connect a coleman stove to a larger tank and there are a bunch of propane heaters that are actually designed to sit on top of a 20 pound tank.
Empty gas bottles (they are never truly empty, there's always some gas left) are a menace for the waste handling industry. Lots of explosions happen in crushers and furnaces when a gas bottle gets through where it's not supposed to be.
Thanks for the information, I've been hoping they would ban those disposable propane bottles for decades, refilling is easier or do what I did is get rid of every single thing that is propane and getting all electric coach. I usually travel to high altitude locations where the propane barely works anyway.
Unsecured tank upside down while filling can quickly become a tragedy with kids running around campground and they plow into the table knocking it over. Just a thought.
Jared, good video. But my question is, I noticed your 17” Blackstone in the video you added a lid to it. Where did you get the lid? I haven’t seen one with that lid that has the hinges on the back. Thanks Jim
Is headspace not needed in a one pounder? With the bleeder valve open, it looks like it was probably filled all the way with liquid. I guess at such a small volume the risk of overpressure or sending liquid to your device isn't as great or do I misunderstand why larger tanks are supposed to only be about 75-80% full?
I purchased one of the quick connect hoses for our blackstone, and I'm not getting the pressure I get with the smaller bottles. The quick connect doesn't have a regulator, and I'm not sure if the quick connect on our camper was ever used, we are the third owners of this camper. Any ideas on why I'm not getting the same pressure?
Two things it could be. Is there a regulator on the blackstone? If so you can’t have that and get good pressure. You have to remove it when using on board propane because it is already regulated. Second is I have seen failing regulators on the RV that need to be replaced that restrict proper flow.
@AllAboutRVs Unless it's inline, there is no regulator on the blackstone, and now that you mentiin it, I do notice that it takes quite a while for the rv fridge to get cold running on propane. If the rv regulator is bad will it also cause this issue?
got a question for you on inverters for running a residential fridge just while traveling on the road. We have a 2021 Keystone Cougar Half Ton with all the bells and whistles. solar, on-command system and a Sinewave 1200-watt inverter all prewired with the disconnect switch. Problem is we are getting rid of the Dometic fridge and installing a residential one. The outlet to plug in the fridge is shore power only but there is a hot wire inside the cabinet to wire up the existing outlet for the inverted dc to ac power. will this work or will this impact the other electrical systems? I could just run an extension cord but I would have to cut holes somewhere to get one in the cabinet? any suggestions
Thanks for the informative video. One unanswered question though, can you take the small refillable cylinders to propane sellers and have them refill them?
Hope this helps you out! Here are the links
5 lb Cylinder with case and Hose. bit.ly/3C3khR3
10 lb Cylinder with case and Hosebit.ly/4ff62qM
10lb no case no hose bit.ly/3YnQrOM
Refillable 1 lb cylinders. amzn.to/40pGsei
2 pack. amzn.to/4f1UpDL
Propane Refill Hose. amzn.to/3C040w2
Refill stand. amzn.to/3UucYrY
12' Propane Quick Connect(on-Board). bit.ly/3UsrRLm
Blackstone Propane amzn.to/4fGETgD
Etrailer Propane accessories. bit.ly/3TkfX63
Yeah that company you're using way overpriced I just looked and get one at Ace hardware for 50 or 60 bucks I don't know what they're doing with all that extra money paying for a 5 lb cylinder for 130 bucks geez are they made out of gold or something
Wow. The title is a lie. They are not banning 1lb propane canisters. They are requiring them to be refillable. You are a liar and a cheat.
Been using the same 5lb cylinder for the past 2 years and love it!!!
Coleman once sold DOT approved refillables in the taller, skinny size that were painted red, back in the late 1970's. They included a simple vent and had kits & adaptors for refilling.
And Coleman quit selling those because they figured out they can make a lot more money selling throwaway containers.
Thanks... we carry a 5lb and 4 of the Flame King refillable 1lb. I fill them from one of our 20lbs at home before our travels. Keep all of the tanks in one milk crate with hoses.
You’re the best when it comes to the consumer for RV info. Hands down the most
Informative. Thanks again. God bless 🙏🏼⛺️👍🏼
My Dad was a propane gas man for 25 years. We had no money back in the 60’s but he had plenty of propane. He made an adapter to refill them from a 100 pound tank. I get the safety issues, etc. unless they changed them, the disposable ones have a valve just like a stem on a tire. You slightly unscrew it and it will bleed out once it is getting full. The only bummer with all propane tanks is they expire in 10 - 12 years. I have 20 lb tanks that literally look new, but they have long expired. It costs 50% as much as new to get them re-Certified. Nice video.
That's too bad about your re-cert costs, the plant I work at only charges $5 dollars with a fill.
Wow, I need to ask Southern States to see what they charge. I just asked someone a while back that wouldn’t fill a 20lb tanks because it was out of date. Thanks for the tip. How are they re-Certified if I could ask?
@@jerrytalley802 We do an inspection on the tank to make sure it's in good condition, then fill it with vapor and then do a leak test opening and closing the main and spit valves to make sure they work and don't leak when closed. Weight on the scale helps you determine if a tank is full, the spit valve keeps you from over filling. A tag is applied to the tank collar with a new date. We are located in northern Michigan.
@@jerrytalley802I’ve had numerous bottles re-certed. They made sure the bottle was empty, and then installed a SMALL amount of propane, and then sprayed All of the exterior fittings, including inside of the hose connection, with that soapy stuff and were looking for any bubbles. No leaks/bubbles, it passed, if bubbles, the top valve gets replaced. I also have a hand held gas leak detector. It’s really handy to have when you smell mercaptan but don’t know where it’s leaking from. I’ve never had a problem in the rv, only 1 time with some of the Frankenstein’ed plumbing I’ve had to do around home.
@@KyleKAPI was told 10-12 years was the hydrostatic recertification period. Wouldn’t that mean they must be not just externally inspected, but also pressure tested?
As a volunteer at Oregon State campgrounds, it always breaks my heart to see all the 1 lb cylinders that just go in the trash - they can't even be recycled! Great information, Jared! (I have a refillable cylinder and refill kit)
I also camphost in Oregon and completely agree with you.
@@philsmith5400 I've found that you can recycle them, but they have to have a hole in them.
I know of front country campgrounds in national parks that have designated recycle bins for these cylinders. So they can be recycled.
They can be recycled.
@@MagentaRV So a round at the firing range first, then recycle.
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I've been refilling the basic disposable bottle for years. I work at a fire and safety equipment shop doing hydro testing of hi pressure scba tanks as well as oxygen, CO2 and others I've had zero problems refilling and using the bottle unless you are incompetent and way over fill the bottle
The only thing I feel you forgot to mention was to flip the source tank slowly as some have a safety that will close if the tank flips too fast.
I was at Walmart to get some 1# cylinders for a Bernzomatic 19425 JT850 Self-Igniting 20,000 BTU Outdoor Torch. I saw the Mr. Heater Fuel Keg and refill kit, and got those immediately. Sure, I have an extension hose for the propane outlet on my camper, but I need the bottle portability to use the torch to start my campfires.
We have a 9 lbs tank and it's one of the best things I've done to help with weight and room. Love that little tank and I've never emptied one in one summer using it for both the weber Q and the Blackstone!
Thank you. I'll probably just get another stove so I can use the 20 lb with a hose.
My solutions have been developed over 5 years living in RV full time. I have 16 of the flame king 1ib, a 5lb, and many hoses and adapters. I also have 6 of the 20lb grill bottles. I have 2 bottle heater rigs too.
Good video. I found the small 1# cylinders annoying yrs ago. Learned how to fill em & I still have the adapter too. Now I have a 5 lbs & a 40 lbs tanks that takes care of all my needs. 5lbs for cooking & 40 lbs for li'l buddy heater. Thanks
I have been using.
The flame king refillable bottle for the last three seasons. I have a buddy heater and a grill. It works extremely well. And $0.75 vs. $6 it's a no brainer.
Great video but only one thing I see is incorrect, do not insulate the tank while drawing propane from it. Tank requires the ambient air to heat up the liquid in the tank to keep the pressure up for the burner connected to it. Otherwise ice forms up on the tank and pressure drops. It works on refrigerant principles.
I use a hose like yours for filling my pounders. I never thought to drain the liquid propane back into the big tank. Thanks for the tip.
Hey Jarred - Thanks (as always) for a great video. Another related topic that I’d love to see you cover in a future video: Use of the low-pressure, quick-connect line on the RV, and (specifically) which appliances work with that connector? I’ve been frustrated many times by the “double regulator” problem, not to mention the multitude of propane stove fittings that are out there. I would love to use our quick-connect for stoves, bbqs, fire pits, etc, alongside our trailer, but I swear every time I buy one, either the fitting is somehow different from the (growing!) collection of adapters I have, or it has an internal regulator and would thus require a major modification to work with the low-pressure LP gas line.
A video with a list of appliances (stoves, barbecues, fire pits) that work with quick-connect (-without- requiring modification), and your recommendations for the “best of” those, would be very helpful!
Keep up the great work!
Great video! I’ve been using the 1lb refillable canisters for about 5 years. I also have the hose that connects to my 20lb cylinder. I should get a 5lb cylinder for greater portability
I got tired of the 1lb cans not being large enough so I cut the threaded top off an older 1lb can and made a new cylinder that holds 2.5 lbs from a length of 3/16" wall seamless pipe with a same gauge welded cap on both ends.
I also installed an under chassis 100lb tank which I removed from a wrecked tour bus, I use that for my refills and outdoor cooking and as a back up for the main supply. I still have the two original tanks up front and I made up a pair of 8" diameter 5lb tanks with regular valves for back up, which get stored underneath. Yes, each homemade cylinder got hydro-tested before use.
Good to know what options we will be able to choose from.
We carry a couple of 1lbs Disposable Bottles, just because we once used them. (I should check dates to see if they are expired.)
When camping, we do 90% plus of our cooking outside of our trailer. Therefore, for short (7 days or less) we take a 10 lbs tank, for longer we carry a 20 lbs. They are just normal Propane Tanks that we picked up at Canadian Tire. They can be filled at any bulk supply company. The one thing I have found in Ontario, is that most Suppliers charge a Flat Rate based on the size of your tank. We have learned that Costgo weigh each tank and charges you by the Litre. MUCH cheaper!!
Most summer I can fill both tanks at the beginning of the season and they will not run out. I then use them as back-up for my BBQ at home.
A local hardware store in my town sells full 1lb reusable propane bottles and offers exchanges on them too witch I thing is really awesome
That's interesting. How much do they charge? It's a $50 investment to buy two of the Mr Heater Fuel Kegs and a fill kit, then after that I can fill a 20# tank at my locale Ace and fill my own tanks.
@ they charge $20 to $30 i believe for a full 1lb tank and $5 if that is a deposit you get back when you return empties or you can pay $20-25 for an exchange of a full one I’m not 100% sure on it as I was going to the hardware store for white gas for my Coleman lantern and stove
@spencerrodgers Wow. That sounds like an absolute rip off of I'm understanding that correctly. They're only $18 to buy on Amazon or anywhere else, then $30 for the fill kit. As long as you already have a big tank for a BBQ grill, that's it. My local Ace hardware fills 20lb tanks for $16.99.
@@spencerrodgersif that pricing is accurate, thats ridiculously expensive.
We have a 20 lb lp tank, a splitter, and a tabletop grill and Blackstone. Easy peasy.
Soon 20lb will be banned. You'll need to spend more to upgrade to the new version.
@@WindsorStinks If this moves beyond single use cannisters in California in 2028, I'll worry about it. The 20 lb tank was an upgrade from the small green ones, 4 years back.
@@WindsorStinks Only the "sale" not the "use" is being banned. If I come to California from Oregon with a green bottle it wont be illegal.
@shaynejenkins446 For now. We are sliding down that slippery slope.
Please keep the videos coming. I have learned so much! Stay well!
I have no problem with the disposable 1lb tanks going away. We've used refillable ones for years that we fill from our 20 or 30lb tanks. We have filled the 'non-refillable' ones in the past but invested in some proper ones because the savings just made sense.
I’ve been using the Flame King 1 lb refillable cylinders for several years and it paid itself many times over. The tank expiration date only applies to propane refillers since they can’t legally do that do so unless it’s recertified. However, you can do so, but use a little bit of not all too common sense.
As for 20 lb cylinders, I just exchange them when they hit the 12 year mark. In some cases it’s way more cost effective and less hassle than getting them recertified.
P.s. Mr Heater Fuel Keg is another refillable 1 lb option. One nice design is the liquid level bleeder is integrated with a quarter turn key vs a separate allen key which tends to get misplaced every now and then. I just have my extra allen keys stuck to a neodymium magnet on my refrigerator.
I have zero issues with this, disposables have gotten too expensive. I have 6 1lb flame kings and they work great refilled many times. Also mr heater has some options too.
Good information, but, like a lot of people, you misunderstand the part about 'transportation if refilled' (01:17) That's for commercial interstate transportation which is subject to federal interstate regulations, NOT John Q Public who refills a disposable and carries it on an RV across a state line.
Does not affect me, because I fased out and banned California 2 decades ago. No amount of money could get me to go there. (I lived there for 12 years)
No one cares
It willl affect you eventually as what happens in California will almost always reach many other states.
4th generation Californian here, left in 2016. Best decision ever.
@@jcontoniodon't be mad.
Look for this to go nationwide. What set California off is every can that is recycled has to have any remaining propane removed. Then the can has to have a hole drilled in it. Then it’s crushed and melted. Many recyclers aren’t taking them anymore because they cost more to process than they’re worth. California generates 13 million of them a year.
Been using the 1 gal LP tank for 15 years or more. Definitely the way to go. I carry two, because I run out of fuel while cooking a lot.
One thing that might bite you with these smaller containers... a lot of the refill places near me charge a minimum fill fee, meaning it could cost $25 or more to fill one of these smaller containers. IMHO it's definably worth investing in the tools to refill you own.
...or you can be a retro wacko like me and still use good old white gas camping gear. A can of camping fuel lasts a loooooonng time.
I've been refilling normal green ones full time 6 years some even the same tanks i started with. More Cal BS uneeded regulation. Whens the last time a news reported story included a refilled green 1lb tank.
I can get 8 or 10 cooks from a 1-lb bottle using my Coleman stove. With my Little Buddy Heater, on Low setting, I can get approx. 6 or 7 hours of continuous heat with the 1-lb bottle. I'm looking at getting a 3-lb tank, if I can find one, with a hose adapter.
The option of using your own board propane would be much preferable to me. Takes a little more forethought and work up front but after you got it figured out it should be the easiest method.
I switched to an induction stove a long time ago. What a relief. With the current pricing on lithium batteries, it is not as huge an investment as it used to be. We have a small electric BBQ as well. Still, we carry a disposable propane cylinder with a small stove as a backup, but we have not used it in over a year.
Which brand did you get? I’m hoping for a better electric cooktop option. I may trade in my blackstone for a simple electric griddle. :-)
@ stove is Xiaomi. BBQ is from Australian Kickass.
California? why am I not surprised?
Also a good place to be from.
Yep I left in 2000.
But I do know what a balance sheet is for. Might be why.
Who else instantly thought California?
Comifornia as usual.
@@Halffast719
Commiefornia
@ indeed it is.
Thank goodness some states are forward thinking. Reusable helps all of us and is actually more cost effective long term plus keeps things out of the landfills which I suspect you don't want in your neighborhood. You must have a problem efficiency and lack of waste.
@@homeshowsthis.
I just got two of the Mr Heater Fuel Kegs and like them.
I thought about getting a 5lb, but i dont think they're that much more convenient than a bigger tank and they're expensive.
The small use with these cylinders. Is why I bought a old Colman stove . Fuel was $8.00 per gallon. Then the supplier got greedy. Went to $12 .00. I weed it to gas at. ,$3.00+ per gallon.
I have one of these too, from my old tent camping days. Held onto it for any SHTF scenarios. I’ve never run straight gasoline in it though. Do you happen to know if ethanol blended gasoline is OK to run in these? It’s all we have around here.
Sentence fragments. Incomplete sentences. Improper use of punctuation. Misspelling. If you had an idea to express, it got lost in translation. Smh.
Put the unleaded in it !!!
I refill the green ones. I use a scale, and I’m usually between 15.9oz - 1.2lbs. I have tanks (30) I’ve been using since 2021. They usually get filled 2-3x a year. No problems yet. No signs of rust on the interior. Thicker walls? Ok. I’ve had tanks sit for years before I used them. I have thought about investing in the refillable type.
Nothing wrong with refilling. The only way they'll rust on the inside is if water gets inside.
Small ones are still legal BUT they have to be refillable. That will ultimately be cheaper to refill. People probably can get a bigger one like a 5 or 10, 20 gal for home and refill their own.
Clickbait title. Its the bottle not the propane.
We are getting propane at $2.50 a gl. We bought four of the new tanks. I love it. But with the Mr. Buddy, you need to have a filter. That inner corrosive coating, will clog the Mr buddy. We have 4 new tanks, and love them.
My only suggestion would be, after you flip the tank over, open the valve on the hose for a second or two. That purges the air in the hose so you're not putting that into the propane bottle. It's not a big deal, but no need to put air into your propane tanks.
Always great videos with helpful information. Thanks!
Nice. I have been using the green tanks for a few years. When I fell them, I use a scale so I know how much I have in the bottle for sure.
Another outstanding video, my friend!
We have a Grand Design Reflection which is plumbed for propane. I believe this is is something Grand Design adds to at least the Reflection if not their other rigs. So much better than carrying the 1# bottles. We have friends who spent $$$$ on a really nice rig but there isn't any outside connections and they are going to have to add this if they want to use their RV's tanks. Probably a good idea to ask the sales person if they are standard and if not have them add the propane connections before they drive off the lot.
FYI - Flame King Refillable 1LB Empty Propane C$63.
I use a 20# with hose with certified Big Buddy (green) hose...much cheaper. No oil filter required.
Legit question. If you refill a non-refillable and "drive" somewhere with it, how can they prove you refilled it and broke the law?
look up definitions of refill and transportation
I havent used the Little ones in Years I have an Adapter that can connect to the Little Stoves from my Big Tanks
I just bought a portable propane heater for my small travel trailer and had planned for now just using the 1lb cylinders. The idea of the refillable ones sounded great, but I would have to carry an extra 20 lb tank just to refill them. I opted for a 5 lb , so I could have it refilled at any propane refiller .
I haven't used them for years. In fact, I don't think I have ever bought one of the small green cylinders. I always use a 20lb tank with an adapter and hose. Much cheaper.
Nice tips and options that I didn’t know existed. Thanks!
I use a 10lb propane tank and purchased an extra Mopeka tank sensor. I just added it to the phone app and labeled it “Grille”. The app shows both RV tanks and the grille.
Etrailer is an awesome company to deal with.
Guess what Gavin Newsom has stock in.
Stock in keeping these disposable canisters out of the landfil, maybe. Now tell me why that is a bad idea, genius?
@@patarmstrong3582 Never said if I thought it was a good or bad idea. Read it again.
Worth mentioning that the blue refillable bottles from Flame King are approved for transport while the green ones typically aren't (yet).
Who cares. You can transport what you want
@@duckwacker8720 The term 'approved for transport' is a bit of a DOT legalese and both insurance companies and RV inspections care quite a bit. RVs need to install a certified tank and the narrow blue bottles will pass the test while the green stubbie ones will not. It is just nice to know that the newer 1lb tanks are up to DOT code now as well. This update is particularly relevant to small campervan looking to change over to RV insurance given how they often lack the room for the larger white tanks.
Easy to see how the 'approved for transport' term could be misinterpreted though. If you are just tossing stuff in the truck, then yes, then using your own approval is more than enough. Transport what you want .... so long as you are not tossing in so much to need a CDL and hazmat!
when i leave the rv park i always stop and pick up the green one pound bottles
i have the kit to refill them!
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. You realize the canisters are pressure vessels that corrode from the inside, and once they fail, it is catastrophic? For about 50 bucks you can get a tested certified vessel and hose to do this right and safely. Enjoy the Darwin Award, but know this probably hurts someone innocent way before it takes you.
We stopped using much propane n bought electric grill. Most always have electric at the sites.
Good information. Thank you!
I prefer any tank having a gauge inline.
Strangely the steel from which these are made is 100% recycleable, the plastic lined ones will need the plastic removing before recycling.
We had a coleman that used them but it never really did the job and then we had this non recyclable thing. We now have a range that we hook to one of our 20 lb tanks and cooking is much better. I hated to get those green things and then throw into the trash, but no more.
I have 2 of the 5 pound tanks that people threw out, I assume they have to be available at local stores on occasion; will note one was vintage(old style threaded female tap) and other is newer type), I am not an rv'er and only got them cause they are small and might make for a decent compressor tank once flushed/etc:P
A bunch of those refillable containers were recalled. Flame Kings, I believe.
Funny, my dad had the refillable ones back in the 1980's (but they were longer and skinnier). They went out of style for the disposable ones in the 90's and 2000s.
Great video. We are newbies and enjoy your videos
How exactly is refilling & traveling of the old Coleman 1# tank policed? How would they know the propane in the 1# isn't the original fill?
It's not. He misunderstands, or deliberately misstates the law. For noncommercial purposes, it is not illegal. If you were trying to re-sell refilled, reused tanks THEN you'd have a problem. Refilling your own tanks? No problem at all.
@@somewhat.random
I don't think so.
First: he isn't the only one that says this. In fact every video that demonstrates this say the same.
Second: it says right on the bottle " Federal law forbids transportation if refilled". That's it, says nothing about commerce.
No only is it a fine to transport the non refillable ones after refilling, it also the same for filling them.
The "valve" on the top of the refillable one is called a splitter valve and let's you know when the liquid level is has reached 80% which is the legal limit
Great current information Gered. - Thanks - Cheers!
Read the label on the Disposable propane bottle again. Are you sure it doesn't say you cannot sell them and you cannot ship them by common carrier. That means you can take them along in your own vehicle
The Fuel Kegs are (IMO) a better system and very robust. Surprised that you did not mention them....great video.
Agree. The fuel kegs is the superior version of the two.
Curious... why? I've been refilling my Colemans (yeah, yeah) for years, but have been considering becoming "legal".
@@paulvanderborgt5581 check out the RUclips and Amazon non-paid reviews and then take a peek at the actual product at your local store. You will notice a marked difference in quality and ease of filling. I had been refilling the colemans for years and was skeptical until I saw the actual Fuel Keg at the Tractor Supply. I then decided to pull the trigger because the colemans were not really lasting that long, plus the legalities and possible hazards, the initial cost is recovered after a couple of trips...But that's just me, go find out for yourself, I am pretty sure you will agree. No, I don't live in commiefornia....
@@paulvanderborgt5581 for me it wasn't so much the "legal" but rather the ability to utilize the full capacity of the refillable cylinder vs the used up coleman. BIG difference between the two. The colemans will refill up only so much, and always dependent on the remaining pressure of the larger cylinder.... the "legal" portion is a bonus. Seriously, go check them out at your local distributor, I think you'll appreciate them. If not, nothing lost. :-)
I switched to a 20lb tank for my little weber grill and it lasts me a long time
All great advice, but that web site you showed is the highest priced I've ever seen. The big box hardware stores web sites are about half those prices. Sporting goods stores (online or in store) would also be better priced.
Well done !!!
Very informative !!!
Do you have to refill yourself? I wonder if a propane store will do for me? I’m so happy to learn about these refillables. I’ve been wanting to get a propane heater and stove for winter power out emergency and dreading contributing to landfill. But hopefully will not use many tanks, just need to have in prep supplies.
I don't think a normal propane filling station has the connections to directly fill the 1 pound tanks. IMO you are better off using a larger 10 or 20 pound cylinder for what you want anyway. You just need a 15 dollar hose to connect a coleman stove to a larger tank and there are a bunch of propane heaters that are actually designed to sit on top of a 20 pound tank.
Thx!
California ruined all of my appliances, now they are ruining my camping equipment. Thanks guys. Thanks a whole bunch.
If you haven't already switched to the 5lb tanks you're missing out
Ruined by improving things ?
Empty gas bottles (they are never truly empty, there's always some gas left) are a menace for the waste handling industry. Lots of explosions happen in crushers and furnaces when a gas bottle gets through where it's not supposed to be.
In Mexico years ago I saw smaller tanks. Probably a kg or so.
Thanks, but I have no issues refilling the green ones, even in goofy California.
Thanks for the information, I've been hoping they would ban those disposable propane bottles for decades, refilling is easier or do what I did is get rid of every single thing that is propane and getting all electric coach. I usually travel to high altitude locations where the propane barely works anyway.
Well the EPA is pushing propane in refrigerators R-290.
Unsecured tank upside down while filling can quickly become a tragedy with kids running around campground and they plow into the table knocking it over. Just a thought.
I have 24 of the Colemans that I rotate and refill from a 20 lb cylinder. It's stupid to pay that much for the new kind.
Shouldn’t the 5 lbs only be transported outside of a living space just like regular cylinders?
Jared, good video. But my question is, I noticed your 17” Blackstone in the video you added a lid to it. Where did you get the lid? I haven’t seen one with that lid that has the hinges on the back. Thanks Jim
Is headspace not needed in a one pounder? With the bleeder valve open, it looks like it was probably filled all the way with liquid. I guess at such a small volume the risk of overpressure or sending liquid to your device isn't as great or do I misunderstand why larger tanks are supposed to only be about 75-80% full?
with a rubber hose you want a filter or the rubber hose will ruin the buddy.
There is a problem with using certain type of hose on a buddy heater. Research before destroying the heater.
I purchased one of the quick connect hoses for our blackstone, and I'm not getting the pressure I get with the smaller bottles.
The quick connect doesn't have a regulator, and I'm not sure if the quick connect on our camper was ever used, we are the third owners of this camper.
Any ideas on why I'm not getting the same pressure?
Two things it could be. Is there a regulator on the blackstone? If so you can’t have that and get good pressure. You have to remove it when using on board propane because it is already regulated. Second is I have seen failing regulators on the RV that need to be replaced that restrict proper flow.
@AllAboutRVs Unless it's inline, there is no regulator on the blackstone, and now that you mentiin it, I do notice that it takes quite a while for the rv fridge to get cold running on propane. If the rv regulator is bad will it also cause this issue?
got a question for you on inverters for running a residential fridge just while traveling on the road. We have a 2021 Keystone Cougar Half Ton with all the bells and whistles. solar, on-command system and a Sinewave 1200-watt inverter all prewired with the disconnect switch. Problem is we are getting rid of the Dometic fridge and installing a residential one. The outlet to plug in the fridge is shore power only but there is a hot wire inside the cabinet to wire up the existing outlet for the inverted dc to ac power. will this work or will this impact the other electrical systems? I could just run an extension cord but I would have to cut holes somewhere to get one in the cabinet? any suggestions
Thanks for the informative video. One unanswered question though, can you take the small refillable cylinders to propane sellers and have them refill them?
If you're 20lb tank is under pressure, does it really work to drain propane from the hose back into the tank after filling the 1lb containers?
Sure. The hose is at pressure, too.
Problem is, most places are going to charge you for a 20# tank when you fill a 5# or 10# one. 20# being their "minimum charge".
I have two of the light green refillable 1 lb cylinders. My only complaint is that they seem to slowly leak over the months.
I live in California and like guns and camping so I’m a lawbreaker already
Do the refillable cylinders hold as much propane as the disposable?