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Do employers check to verify gig work? Are big corporations more likely than small businesses and Mom & Pop businesses to check your gig work history? I've done some gig work off and on during layoffs. I know there's little to no regulations surrounding gig work. I'm worried that employers don't want to see overlapping (W2 job dates with the same mm/you as gig work) because it shows that you're not loyal and you're likely to quit. Also I had a big gap in employment from 2014 to 2022 (I had a 100% disability rating from the VA back then). Platforms like Uber and lyft were around then. One of the platforms I drive on is Uber. Could I put on my resume that I've been driving on Uber since 2014 when I've only been driving on Uber since 2021? 10 years at Uber looks better on a resume than an employment gap of 8 years followed by 2 years of gig work plus W2 work.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff yes. You can leave a job off a resume. You're not the dev you were before, so why let an old bad experience pull you down? Remove it and adjust the time.
Short answer, yes… Always lie to employers. Never feel obligated to share all of your work history with employers. They’ll just use it against you anyway they can. It’s like talking to police. Anything you say can and will be used against you.
Why they lie to you And they're willing to imperil your future, make you lose your house, be unable to get food, unable to support people, unable to love your life. Theyll tell you to work 15 minutes before and 15 after without pay, work through breaks, give your entire life to them. Do not give them anything
Not only it’s OK but many times necessary to customize your resume to the job posting. I look at it this way: Anything in your resume can be used against you during the screening and interview processes, so edit accordingly. The potential employer will certainly not share everything with you, then why should you?
I have 40 years of experience, removing the first 20 years has allowed me to begin having interviews again. Not a big problem for me as I appear to be 10 years younger than I am (so as I am told) and went to college at the age of 30 which works well for dates too.
I had a job coach tell me its ok to not have a job you don’t want to talk about on your resume. (I didn’t want to talk about a very toxic fast food job I had)
@@inudigifan201 heh I got yelled at because I was making pancakes too small on my first day at McD's; even at 17 I had less-than-stellar thoughts about certain managers and management in general. Guy's long dead by now anyway.
Yes, it is ok. I just quit a job a couple of weeks ago. I have 13 yrs of straight employment before that. I was only there for 3 months. It was a shitty retail job for a small store. The manager was OCD about every little detail. Plus they had promised me more hours, originally. They had cut me down to 15 hrs a week. I told them I can't make this work. So I quit. 🙂 I just applied to a couple real jobs. I left this one off my resume.
I just left a job that was a complete waste of time. I knew six months in that it was a mistake, but I'm related to the owner so I kinda felt obligated, like I was helping him in a way. I was there almost two years and finally had enough, don't make the mistake I did, if a job feels like a dead end or you just aren't happy update your resume and abandon ship.
On your CV instead of EXPERIENCE put done SELECTED EXPERIENCE and list what is relevant. Its the same logic as for training courses / certifications - instead of listing everything you done you just list what is relevant.
I did 3 miserable months at a nonprofit. They fired me and it wasnt until much later i realized they were protecting themselves from a lawsuit and I missed the opportunity.
In this age of project hires, a person with years of experience will rack up lots of companies. To keep a resume at two pages, it's necessary to leave irrelevant jobs off in order to highlight more detail that better relate to the job you're applying for.
Nothing much to share, they just decided to end my job 7 days in. The person said no reason was necessary since it was within my first 90 days and just sent me off
I worked at the Veterans Administration for three months shy of my probationary period and it was a horrible, traumatic experience. They didn't provide adequate training or detailed information about the daily job and schedule expectations. Those folks couldn't ever evaluate my skills and experience. I don't include it on my resume.
I usually take off some jobs that are pointless like seasonal jobs. Unless they’re fun jobs I wanna talk about like gardening or farming. If I need to look like I been working I usually add seasonal jobs just to say hey I’m hustling and am a good worker ever since graduatin college.
I love the “other relevant experience” section! I once was prepared to sign on to an LLC with three other parties. Six months into our planning and preparation, one backed out and made it so the rest of us had to as well. I don’t include this on my resume since I never held an official title, but those six months were critical to my current communication and planning capabilities, and the knowledge I gained proves invaluable in every aspect of my life now
I don't include my initial (very successful) 20+ year sales experience. I left for my sanity and moved into more "project management" positions. I only include the last ~12 years on my resume as it's most relevant to my current pursuits and, frankly, at 56 years old I am trying to remove an immediate ageist rejection.
If a job is too old and doesn't really align with your new skills then yes, it is perfectly fine. I know software engineers who have been working in the industry since the 90s and they don't list their 20 y/o jobs. I've worked in fast food and obviously I never list that in my resume.
Thank you! I worked for a company that treated (almost) everyone there like s*** - there was yet another negative review on Glassdoor a week ago. I leave this off my resume because the old HR person very likely wrote very negative things about me before she was fired.
I was fired after two weeks and never included it on a resume or application. Seven years later I was working as a temporary employee at that company in another state and they wanted to hire me, so in that case I told what had happened because they would find out anyway, even though I had since married and changed my name. They hired me anyway.
Background check companies are usually only verifying what you wrote on the application. Several years back, I had a job that lasted 6 weeks when I quit due to a personality conflict with the hiring manager. Never put it on my resume and was never questioned about it by future employer background checks.
Talk for yourself. Are you American? I am not... And jobs come in my background, since I was on a work visa seven years ago. One is still in a contentious issue and I am obligated to mention it, since it comes up in the crappy immigration & Mexican Social Security system...
@@josephpatti4575 They find out, trust me. I left one off of my resume at a company that did a comprehensive background check (using Orange) and it found the job. Fortunately I was able to explain it to their HR.
Yes, you can. Majority of the interviewers don't give an F about your whole job history. They'll only focus on the latest ones and those who have relation to the job offer. Also, my last job was in July as a consortium seller. I was there just for a week. It was an awful experience, so not worth having it in my resume
I'll never forget this job I applied to where after I filled out the application, I was given this form that asked me if I had left off any positions on my application and below it said they can check with The SSA to see all the jobs you've had.
Sounds more like a way to scare you than that they were actually going to check, but yes, this is definitely not a fool-proof concept. Most companies probably won't. Similar to that, I remember talking to a friend of mine who ran a company of about 30 employees, and he said he was asks for salary verification. I'd never heard of this,but apparently it's way of actually finding out if what you say you made on your previous job is actually what you were paid.
@kevinmach730 Yeah, this was about 20-25 years ago when I applied. I have never seen anything like that on any applications since then.But you're right it was probably there as a scare tactic.
I'm not sure how I'd remove a toxic job that I had for too long off my resume (that was more than a decade of my life that I won't get back). Then again my late grandfather foretold me years ago that there will come many twists and turns and that many opportunities will arise. While I'm working a job I generally like, I'm still not over the post trauma of my previous, toxic job that I was looked down on a lot.
I've left Jobs off my resume before.. No one's ever found out, come to me, and said Why did you never mention this? What I'm wondering though-- what do you do with jobs that no longer exist? Like the company still exists, but your specific location/manager/ area is gone? For example, I did camera room/loss prevention at Dillard's for a time, but the store is gone. The mall is knocked down. The mangers are God knows where.
If the company still exist it’s fine, if u were to put it in your resume u can still speak about your experience working there. I would still put the old location I’m sure the employer / interviewer can find out what happened if they really wanted too I just wouldn’t use them as a reference if you cannot locate the manager anymore or whoever
Yea the ATS probably doesn't want to know I worked for a cleaning service and retail to help me get me through school and I'm applying for a cybersecurity role. If the hiring manager asks I'll tell them.
It took me a lot of explanation to do if I include them. Leave them out. If it leaves a few month gap, so be it. If the companies are looking for someone who never had a gap in the resume and immediately start a new job, you don’t need it anyways.
I think either you liked it or not, every experience we had opportunities to work on, are adding up to you as an individual and therefore, every little helps nothing is wasted time.
They experts say to leave off anything older than 15 to 20 years. I guess no one told the interviewer that. I did this, and they said then what did you do from 1977 thru 1997. They DID NOT like that I lefts 20 years off my resume. Never heard from them again.
thats a dumb interviewer though, then. An answer should have sufficed "i removed it because its not really relevant anymore, but would be happy to discuss it with you in detail, if youd like?" - I had a similar situation once where the recruiter instructed me to "add it all back, this hiring manager would want to see it" so I did.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff I don't think they really care, I think they are just hyper focused on finding ANY they can discount you for, that makes them feel like "They are really doing THEIR job". Companies never see a lot of good people for this very reason.
@@deanowexford7021 I have a long and successful career in Engineering, starting off in machine design, then injection molding, then packaging design in both the glass and plastic industry, moving up to Senior Project Manager in the Pharmaceutical and Medical device field. All 43 years of my experience was cumulative and under the same umbrella. I was granted six patents and made one company I worked for between $20 to $40 million dollars.
3:35 my situation is a little interesting, I was in a long term position until April ‘22, then took a new role at a different company for 6 months before being laid off for nearly a year. The job was relevant to roles I was applying for, but was a slight step down in position title and I didn’t have much impact in that amount of time. Debated keeping it on (for the work history) or leaving it off (reverse mobility & no impact during time).
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I once left a job after two weeks after finding a rejected candidate who I had sent there from a staffing agency was hired directly without paying me a fee. I do not put this employer on a resume. Years later, a financial institution, known to do extensive background checks, questioned me hard about why I’d lie on my resume and why I was there only two weeks. I told them the job was misrepresented and moved on, which seemed to satisfy HR. Unfortunately, I’ve had no choice but to take a position below my capabilities due to long economic recession in banking. I cannot leave it off my resume since I had to stay several years. Work at a lower salary or stay unemployed and widen the job gap, or be thankful for the lower opportunity. I have no doubt this has hurt my career.
I can't believe some people are asking this question...heck yeah it's okay! I took a management job, sold my house, moved to a different city for it...only to quit at lunch time 6 weeks later LOL. I've never been asked about that job. In fact, I took the following 7 months to self study and get into a different field (tech altogether)...via RUclips. I've never had any one ask about that 8 month gap, either.
I’m 39 and I’ve had about 38 jobs in my life. One as a minor. I will have to leave out most of my story. This includes jobs that lasted a day annd jobs they refused to pay me in sales. currently working part time as a successful sales representative. Considering I’ve been with company nearly 3 years and made 54k last year and am debt free and own a nice car with a 4 year degree too, I’d say nothing can stop me. I was fired about 20 times in life and also quit nany jobs. Today I love my remote sales job!
My first 3 jobs were contracts that lasted 4 months, 8 months, and 4 months(technically FTE but ended do to me not being a good fit) respectively. 14 years later, needless to say these are off of my resume for good and out of memory 😀
I did because it was an under the table HVAC job and I honestly don't remember that employer's contact info. Also it was more than 10 years old which airlines don't care about and neither does the TSA & Customs (for airport credential background checks). Both groups only want the last 10 years of your history.
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I was fired in 2004 from the first full-time job related to my degree that I ever had. I was in that job for two years and left the industry for two years after that. This job, and the stopgap jobs I held for the next two years, have not appeared on my resume for a long time now. No employer I’ve spoken with since has cared enough to bring them up.
Why would I include my short time working in a boiler room for a mortgage lender on my resume when the last few positions I've held were either in contract or proprietary security? Not related and yep, you're first point.
I left a few jobs off my cv , I left a job which lasted three days which was an employment agency at a company, I left that off , as I was let go, not suitable. I always try to fill gas in my cv, short term , short temporary jobs are okay if it got some skills you have picked up., most the companies I worked for are not around now, and agencies change names. or two merged into one
as a contract IT consultant you do a lot of 4 month projects and some could be even less. Also you may have times when you finish a project and don't have something lined up right away and you may sit on the bench looking for your next job. And this is often caused by the company laying people off suddenly. Several companies do this, usually at the end of the year. BofA did this almost every year in October early November and then after the 1st of the year try and hire them back at a lesser rate. Or try and hire them as perm. at a much lower rate then they would lay them off anyway when the Project was completed. They're not the only company that does that. So leaving jobs off and dates off is OK. who said you have to work everyday from one job to another with no breaks? That's stupid and any recruiter who HR person or department head that believes that is stupid. Right now they're 1000s of people on Linkedin who have been off work for months and they post stuff all the time complaining they're getting pasted of for jobs they are more than qualified to do. A recruiter friend of mine said the current crop of recruiters and HR persons are"scummy". His integrity was more important to him and he has since quit.
I tried this several years ago when I held a job for like 6 months that was so horrible, basically a toxic stressful environment. This was the first and only job I ever walked off of, but stupid me came back to work, then got fired. When I left this off my resume, it showed a career gap. When I explained that I had a job that I just left off (being honest), it made hiring companies very suspicious of me. So now I have left it on there and just explain my reason for leaving. Any other tips you can offer for this would be great?
I would normally say "SURE" but in my experience the irrelevant job is less important than a time gap, ESPECIALL with government or contractors who require EVERY time window to be work or school.
Will companies reject you before looking at your resume? I ask because these online applications are very time consuming and it’s redundant to fill out job information, school and certs already on your resume.
I was fired from 2 jobs due to personality conflict with management. Not due to anything I did. I never put that I was fired. I work in a field that’s always looking for bodies so I always managed to get job by the next week. I only put month and years worked. And that I left the position. Interviewer almost never asked why I left. And I don’t offer the information. When they do ask I say that it wasn’t a good fit.
I always do. I'm looking for a certain job. If some of my past jobs aren't related of the job search I'm doing I always leave out. I never leave anything in the resume that will lose track of the reader that are reading hundreds of resume. So I never jot down jobs not relied to that job search. So the reader of my resume won't be looking for the no pile.
i left out mostly my fast food jobs when i first started working in my early 20s and i’m almost 40 now. is that bad? i have about 5 jobs in my resume currently
You can leave jobs off your application also. If they don't know you worked at a company they wont know to talk to them about you working for that company. Its not like they are going to call random companies to see if you worked for them. But you will have to say you where unemployed during that time period which could be far worse as companies really frown on periods of unemployment.
so then they can find a job i ommitted on a background check then? if i sign that document that i need to disclose everything i need to or they can find anyway?
Well Im taking double naught spy of my resume. I'm currently in the process of retraining. I just received a Copy of Brain Surgery for Dummies, however I'm keeping my options open for monster truck driver.
You know what they say about references, "it's what they don't say". If there is a gap the tendency is always to assume the worst. Maybe that time was spent in prison?
I always let jobs out of my resume. As a youth, I always had a summer job. I started at 14. Should I put those jobs in my resume? Absolutely not! Then I worked as a machinist (lathe operator) while I was studying to become an automotive engineer. Should I put that job in my resume? Absolutely! Do I have a choice? Can I let those jobs out, when I'm going to apply for an engineer position at the same plant? They already have my employment records. After working for about 7-8 years as automotive engineer, I switched to software development for more money (double salary actually). Back in my country, Romania, everything was hunky dory with these sort of career changes. It was normal. When you complete some sort of technical post-secondary education in Romania you are supposed to know programming, because no one accepts "hand calculation". Most of the time. you must build a program that does the calculation. That's how it works. So, yeah, switching from various technical fields to computing is like Monday in Romania. No one sees any problem. The problem arrived after I immigrated to Canada. Employers seem to have an issue with you switching from a management position to a simple developer job. It does not sound right to 9 people out of 10. No one can comprehend how can you give up on such "amazing" position for a simple one, where leadership skills are not required. I have been asked to explain countless times, at every interview, all my past decisions. I got tired, so, I removed all those "outrageous" positions from my resume. That did the trick. I got multiple offers. People thought that I was like 10 years younger. However, they can find your previous jobs, no matter how hard you try to hide them. Two of my employers asked me to agree to a background check when I got the job. I agreed, and they found out. There are companies specialized in background checks, they do the job and sell the records to whoever asks and presents your background check agreement with the photo ID.
If you're at the same company but took some roles or worked on some teams that were not so good and wanted to exclude those, would the background check be able to determine that on the application?
if I included every job, I should also include unpaid volunteering that were harder than any job Ive ever had, and if I did that my resume would be 5 pages long.
In short. Can you leave it off your resume? yes. But during an in-depth background check someone CAN ask when you started/ended work. So be prepared to explain any gaps or inconsistencies.
Hi, I have a slightly related question. Soon I will be interviewing for a job I am slightly underqualified for on paper, but considering I come from within the team I am a desired candidate. I expect an offer. Our company works in scales, so the scale is set. The question is: Am i still in a position to negotiate? I know other similar jobs want me and would pay more than the bottom of the range, but I am afraid i will not be able to counter the argument that it is a huge step up either way. How would you do this? Thanks in advance for your or any other commenter's reply!
I was contractor that worked off and on for a government office. I took an oath to uphold certain statutes and to report violations of these. When I reported them I was removed from the department (telling me I did wrong by reporting) and transferred elsewhere and they did not renew my contract. How do I address this on a resume/interview?
If it's not relevant to the job, leave it off. If the interviewers actually read your resume (worst case during the interview for the first time since application), they'll ask about the time gaps. 😉
You can definitely do this. No one is going to check to verify educational levels beyond those required by the job.That being said, I have been in situations where I probably should have done this. One job in particular, they interviewed me 3 different times over 6 months and eventually hired me because the 2-3 people they hired instead didn't work out. I found that tibit out about a year later into my employment there, and also found out part of the reason they were hesitant to hire me because my education / work experience- they thought I would quit the second something better came along, when in reality I was just looking for a less demanding role (of course, I never told them this at any point in the interview, you don't want to admit that).
I leave half of my jobs off; extend the periods for jobs I keep on; strategically list my college without dates (dropped out); and put my certifications at the top so they don't even ask about college; I just make it look pretty and make sure I don't fudge it on the background check form
Do you have any videos on job gaps? I had to stop working for a year due to my son being deathly ill. And its been hard to get a job with such a large gap in employment. Any advice?
What about if the job I want to leave off is my current position? It doesn’t add value to my career, and I just took it to close the employment gap after a 1.5 year sabbatical. Please advise.
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I have a question should I include every former employers business addresses on my resume? When you have time, Please let me know thanks.
Do employers check to verify gig work? Are big corporations more likely than small businesses and Mom & Pop businesses to check your gig work history?
I've done some gig work off and on during layoffs. I know there's little to no regulations surrounding gig work. I'm worried that employers don't want to see overlapping (W2 job dates with the same mm/you as gig work) because it shows that you're not loyal and you're likely to quit.
Also I had a big gap in employment from 2014 to 2022 (I had a 100% disability rating from the VA back then). Platforms like Uber and lyft were around then. One of the platforms I drive on is Uber.
Could I put on my resume that I've been driving on Uber since 2014 when I've only been driving on Uber since 2021? 10 years at Uber looks better on a resume than an employment gap of 8 years followed by 2 years of gig work plus W2 work.
@@EmmanuelRodriguez-d8i I personally have never included my former employers business address on any of my resumes. In my opinion it's not important.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff yes. You can leave a job off a resume. You're not the dev you were before, so why let an old bad experience pull you down?
Remove it and adjust the time.
@@NickTheCodeMechanicdon’t adjust the time or employment dates. Easiest way to not pass a background & risk having the offer rescinded.
Your resume is a marketing tool not a legal document.
Yes leave off those short, toxic jobs.
Short answer, yes… Always lie to employers. Never feel obligated to share all of your work history with employers. They’ll just use it against you anyway they can. It’s like talking to police. Anything you say can and will be used against you.
Yet those are the employers that complain that they can't find good workers. Top talent must be fought for. Rock Stars know Rock Stars.
Lying is absolutely terrible advice. Omitting things is perfectly fine.
But then come the lawsuits.
It's only a lie of they ask for the gap. If they don't ask why a gap. No lie needs to happen
Why they lie to you
And they're willing to imperil your future, make you lose your house, be unable to get food, unable to support people, unable to love your life. Theyll tell you to work 15 minutes before and 15 after without pay, work through breaks, give your entire life to them.
Do not give them anything
Not only it’s OK but many times necessary to customize your resume to the job posting. I look at it this way: Anything in your resume can be used against you during the screening and interview processes, so edit accordingly. The potential employer will certainly not share everything with you, then why should you?
I have 40 years of experience, removing the first 20 years has allowed me to begin having interviews again. Not a big problem for me as I appear to be 10 years younger than I am (so as I am told) and went to college at the age of 30 which works well for dates too.
yup i finally got old enough where I had to start doing the same and rolling stuff off the bottom of resume to not appear so old or outdated :D
I don’t keep anything past 10 years on mine. I’ve moved across the country and a lot of previous employers have closed for good.
Better yet, don't bother putting dates on education.
@@Tie509Agreed...I leave dates off special industry related courses and formal education and only keep years on for dates in the employment section.
@@kneel1same, although my challenge is that my 1st employer out of college is where I remained for 20 years before moving along
Your employer is like the IRS. Dont give more information than needed to prevent an audit.
I had a job coach tell me its ok to not have a job you don’t want to talk about on your resume. (I didn’t want to talk about a very toxic fast food job I had)
The food was probably literally toxic also
@@ngkngk875 yeah I got yelled at for trying to wash the raw chicken off the pans… wouldn’t drink the tea either
@@inudigifan201 heh I got yelled at because I was making pancakes too small on my first day at McD's; even at 17 I had less-than-stellar thoughts about certain managers and management in general. Guy's long dead by now anyway.
Looking at it as a billboard as opposed to a job list is great advice. Thank you.
Yes, it is ok. I just quit a job a couple of weeks ago. I have 13 yrs of straight employment before that. I was only there for 3 months. It was a shitty retail job for a small store. The manager was OCD about every little detail. Plus they had promised me more hours, originally. They had cut me down to 15 hrs a week. I told them I can't make this work. So I quit. 🙂 I just applied to a couple real jobs. I left this one off my resume.
I just left a job that was a complete waste of time. I knew six months in that it was a mistake, but I'm related to the owner so I kinda felt obligated, like I was helping him in a way. I was there almost two years and finally had enough, don't make the mistake I did, if a job feels like a dead end or you just aren't happy update your resume and abandon ship.
Yes. I’ve found most companies do not search deep enough.
OF COURSE ITS OK! you owe nothing to nobody, especially if there’s a valid reason to exclude it.
On your CV instead of EXPERIENCE put done SELECTED EXPERIENCE and list what is relevant. Its the same logic as for training courses / certifications - instead of listing everything you done you just list what is relevant.
Careers are a private club for a small percentage of people
I did 3 miserable months at a nonprofit. They fired me and it wasnt until much later i realized they were protecting themselves from a lawsuit and I missed the opportunity.
In this age of project hires, a person with years of experience will rack up lots of companies. To keep a resume at two pages, it's necessary to leave irrelevant jobs off in order to highlight more detail that better relate to the job you're applying for.
I was hired on Tuesday and then fired on Monday, so yes I’m leaving it off my resume since I was only there for 7 days
Please do share the story.
Nothing much to share, they just decided to end my job 7 days in. The person said no reason was necessary since it was within my first 90 days and just sent me off
@@Sharpshooter649 Yeah fuck those people
If it's at-will, then yes. But still, they should tell you why.
Similar. Started on Monday, the guy that hired me went out of town on Tues, they cancelled his project on Wed, his boss told me to leave on Thurs.
I worked at the Veterans Administration for three months shy of my probationary period and it was a horrible, traumatic experience. They didn't provide adequate training or detailed information about the daily job and schedule expectations. Those folks couldn't ever evaluate my skills and experience. I don't include it on my resume.
I usually take off some jobs that are pointless like seasonal jobs. Unless they’re fun jobs I wanna talk about like gardening or farming.
If I need to look like I been working I usually add seasonal jobs just to say hey I’m hustling and am a good worker ever since graduatin college.
Hiring teams are easily confused except during salary negotiation 😂
I love the “other relevant experience” section! I once was prepared to sign on to an LLC with three other parties. Six months into our planning and preparation, one backed out and made it so the rest of us had to as well. I don’t include this on my resume since I never held an official title, but those six months were critical to my current communication and planning capabilities, and the knowledge I gained proves invaluable in every aspect of my life now
I don't include my initial (very successful) 20+ year sales experience. I left for my sanity and moved into more "project management" positions. I only include the last ~12 years on my resume as it's most relevant to my current pursuits and, frankly, at 56 years old I am trying to remove an immediate ageist rejection.
This is a way to combat ageism.
Yes being selective is the right word ! If you don’t want to get questioned on it DO NOT PUT IT ON YOUR RESUME lol
If a job is too old and doesn't really align with your new skills then yes, it is perfectly fine. I know software engineers who have been working in the industry since the 90s and they don't list their 20 y/o jobs. I've worked in fast food and obviously I never list that in my resume.
I have left several stupid gap jobs off my resume' who cares the better jobs i have interviewed for never found out
Thank you! I worked for a company that treated (almost) everyone there like s*** - there was yet another negative review on Glassdoor a week ago. I leave this off my resume because the old HR person very likely wrote very negative things about me before she was fired.
I was fired after two weeks and never included it on a resume or application. Seven years later I was working as a temporary employee at that company in another state and they wanted to hire me, so in that case I told what had happened because they would find out anyway, even though I had since married and changed my name. They hired me anyway.
Background check companies are usually only verifying what you wrote on the application. Several years back, I had a job that lasted 6 weeks when I quit due to a personality conflict with the hiring manager. Never put it on my resume and was never questioned about it by future employer background checks.
Talk for yourself.
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I am not... And jobs come in my background, since I was on a work visa seven years ago. One is still in a contentious issue and I am obligated to mention it, since it comes up in the crappy immigration & Mexican Social Security system...
Not at all true in comprehensive background checks, which are common at bigger companies. They'll find everything.
@@JustMe99999 how would they find out about a job if you don’t tell them about it
@@josephpatti4575 They find out, trust me. I left one off of my resume at a company that did a comprehensive background check (using Orange) and it found the job. Fortunately I was able to explain it to their HR.
@JustMe99999 Bullshit, bro!!
Sure you can, I have and never had issues
Yes, you can. Majority of the interviewers don't give an F about your whole job history. They'll only focus on the latest ones and those who have relation to the job offer. Also, my last job was in July as a consortium seller. I was there just for a week. It was an awful experience, so not worth having it in my resume
I sure as heck don't put my teenage fast food work on my resume as a data analyst.
I'll never forget this job I applied to where after I filled out the application, I was given this form that asked me if I had left off any positions on my application and below it said they can check with The SSA to see all the jobs you've had.
Sounds more like a way to scare you than that they were actually going to check, but yes, this is definitely not a fool-proof concept. Most companies probably won't. Similar to that, I remember talking to a friend of mine who ran a company of about 30 employees, and he said he was asks for salary verification. I'd never heard of this,but apparently it's way of actually finding out if what you say you made on your previous job is actually what you were paid.
@kevinmach730 Yeah, this was about 20-25 years ago when I applied. I have never seen anything like that on any applications since then.But you're right it was probably there as a scare tactic.
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I'm not sure how I'd remove a toxic job that I had for too long off my resume (that was more than a decade of my life that I won't get back). Then again my late grandfather foretold me years ago that there will come many twists and turns and that many opportunities will arise. While I'm working a job I generally like, I'm still not over the post trauma of my previous, toxic job that I was looked down on a lot.
I've left Jobs off my resume before.. No one's ever found out, come to me, and said Why did you never mention this? What I'm wondering though-- what do you do with jobs that no longer exist? Like the company still exists, but your specific location/manager/ area is gone? For example, I did camera room/loss prevention at Dillard's for a time, but the store is gone. The mall is knocked down. The mangers are God knows where.
If the company still exist it’s fine, if u were to put it in your resume u can still speak about your experience working there.
I would still put the old location I’m sure the employer / interviewer can find out what happened if they really wanted too
I just wouldn’t use them as a reference if you cannot locate the manager anymore or whoever
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Yea the ATS probably doesn't want to know I worked for a cleaning service and retail to help me get me through school and I'm applying for a cybersecurity role. If the hiring manager asks I'll tell them.
If it ain’t related to your career choice you can.
If they require you to enter 7 years of employment you might have to.
It took me a lot of explanation to do if I include them. Leave them out. If it leaves a few month gap, so be it.
If the companies are looking for someone who never had a gap in the resume and immediately start a new job, you don’t need it anyways.
I think either you liked it or not, every experience we had opportunities to work on, are adding up to you as an individual and therefore, every little helps nothing is wasted time.
They experts say to leave off anything older than 15 to 20 years. I guess no one told the interviewer that. I did this, and they said then what did you do from 1977 thru 1997. They DID NOT like that I lefts 20 years off my resume. Never heard from them again.
thats a dumb interviewer though, then. An answer should have sufficed "i removed it because its not really relevant anymore, but would be happy to discuss it with you in detail, if youd like?" - I had a similar situation once where the recruiter instructed me to "add it all back, this hiring manager would want to see it" so I did.
Why the hell would they want to know what you did in 1977. Red flags all around with this one.
@@ALifeAfterLayoff I don't think they really care, I think they are just hyper focused on finding ANY they can discount you for, that makes them feel like "They are really doing THEIR job". Companies never see a lot of good people for this very reason.
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3:35 my situation is a little interesting, I was in a long term position until April ‘22, then took a new role at a different company for 6 months before being laid off for nearly a year.
The job was relevant to roles I was applying for, but was a slight step down in position title and I didn’t have much impact in that amount of time. Debated keeping it on (for the work history) or leaving it off (reverse mobility & no impact during time).
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I've had a few jobs that were very short term. I've left those off and any jobs that are not relevant to the position I am looking for.
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I once left a job after two weeks after finding a rejected candidate who I had sent there from a staffing agency was hired directly without paying me a fee. I do not put this employer on a resume. Years later, a financial institution, known to do extensive background checks, questioned me hard about why I’d lie on my resume and why I was there only two weeks. I told them the job was misrepresented and moved on, which seemed to satisfy HR. Unfortunately, I’ve had no choice but to take a position below my capabilities due to long economic recession in banking. I cannot leave it off my resume since I had to stay several years. Work at a lower salary or stay unemployed and widen the job gap, or be thankful for the lower opportunity. I have no doubt this has hurt my career.
I can't believe some people are asking this question...heck yeah it's okay! I took a management job, sold my house, moved to a different city for it...only to quit at lunch time 6 weeks later LOL. I've never been asked about that job. In fact, I took the following 7 months to self study and get into a different field (tech altogether)...via RUclips. I've never had any one ask about that 8 month gap, either.
I have no idea how to do this selection correctly. My resume is all over the place. Then, my LinkedIn never matches my resume.
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I've left several lackluster jobs off my resume, and just explained the gaps with 'freelance work'. No one's ever asked further.
I’m 39 and I’ve had about 38 jobs in my life. One as a minor. I will have to leave out most of my story. This includes jobs that lasted a day annd jobs they refused to pay me in sales. currently working part time as a successful sales representative. Considering I’ve been with company nearly 3 years and made 54k last year and am debt free and own a nice car with a 4 year degree too, I’d say nothing can stop me. I was fired about 20 times in life and also quit nany jobs. Today I love my remote sales job!
On a related note, how do you address the mental wellness sabbatical - unemployment hole in a resume?
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My first 3 jobs were contracts that lasted 4 months, 8 months, and 4 months(technically FTE but ended do to me not being a good fit) respectively. 14 years later, needless to say these are off of my resume for good and out of memory 😀
I did because it was an under the table HVAC job and I honestly don't remember that employer's contact info. Also it was more than 10 years old which airlines don't care about and neither does the TSA & Customs (for airport credential background checks). Both groups only want the last 10 years of your history.
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Ive done it in the past, its a resume not an autobiography
A few times I've left jobs off my resume.
I was fired in 2004 from the first full-time job related to my degree that I ever had. I was in that job for two years and left the industry for two years after that.
This job, and the stopgap jobs I held for the next two years, have not appeared on my resume for a long time now. No employer I’ve spoken with since has cared enough to bring them up.
Yes. It’s also ok to make up jobs to fill the dates for the ATS.
Why would I include my short time working in a boiler room for a mortgage lender on my resume when the last few positions I've held were either in contract or proprietary security? Not related and yep, you're first point.
Yes, generally companies are only looking for 5-8 years of employment history
I left a few jobs off my cv , I left a job which lasted three days which was an employment agency at a company, I left that off , as I was let go, not suitable. I always try to fill gas in my cv, short term , short temporary jobs are okay if it got some skills you have picked up., most the companies I worked for are not around now, and agencies change names. or two merged into one
as a contract IT consultant you do a lot of 4 month projects and some could be even less. Also you may have times when you finish a project and don't have something lined up right away and you may sit on the bench looking for your next job. And this is often caused by the company laying people off suddenly. Several companies do this, usually at the end of the year. BofA did this almost every year in October early November and then after the 1st of the year try and hire them back at a lesser rate. Or try and hire them as perm. at a much lower rate then they would lay them off anyway when the Project was completed. They're not the only company that does that. So leaving jobs off and dates off is OK. who said you have to work everyday from one job to another with no breaks? That's stupid and any recruiter who HR person or department head that believes that is stupid. Right now they're 1000s of people on Linkedin who have been off work for months and they post stuff all the time complaining they're getting pasted of for jobs they are more than qualified to do. A recruiter friend of mine said the current crop of recruiters and HR persons are"scummy". His integrity was more important to him and he has since quit.
I tried this several years ago when I held a job for like 6 months that was so horrible, basically a toxic stressful environment. This was the first and only job I ever walked off of, but stupid me came back to work, then got fired. When I left this off my resume, it showed a career gap. When I explained that I had a job that I just left off (being honest), it made hiring companies very suspicious of me. So now I have left it on there and just explain my reason for leaving. Any other tips you can offer for this would be great?
I would normally say "SURE" but in my experience the irrelevant job is less important than a time gap, ESPECIALL with government or contractors who require EVERY time window to be work or school.
Will companies reject you before looking at your resume? I ask because these online applications are very time consuming and it’s redundant to fill out job information, school and certs already on your resume.
I was fired from 2 jobs due to personality conflict with management. Not due to anything I did. I never put that I was fired. I work in a field that’s always looking for bodies so I always managed to get job by the next week. I only put month and years worked. And that I left the position. Interviewer almost never asked why I left. And I don’t offer the information. When they do ask I say that it wasn’t a good fit.
I always do. I'm looking for a certain job. If some of my past jobs aren't related of the job search I'm doing I always leave out. I never leave anything in the resume that will lose track of the reader that are reading hundreds of resume. So I never jot down jobs not relied to that job search. So the reader of my resume won't be looking for the no pile.
Is it a good idea to put a security alert on your The Work Number profile so no one can look at your work history without your permission?
i left out mostly my fast food jobs when i first started working in my early 20s and i’m almost 40 now. is that bad? i have about 5 jobs in my resume currently
You can leave jobs off your application also. If they don't know you worked at a company they wont know to talk to them about you working for that company. Its not like they are going to call random companies to see if you worked for them. But you will have to say you where unemployed during that time period which could be far worse as companies really frown on periods of unemployment.
so then they can find a job i ommitted on a background check then? if i sign that document that i need to disclose everything i need to or they can find anyway?
Do you also leave the job off your resume off your LinkedIn profile too?
I think it depends on how long the job was. 30 days or less leave it off
More like 3 to 6 months long, leave it off!
Hello. The removing a filler job strategy sounds usful. However, it well not matter if I have a 4 month gap between one job experience to another?
If the job I had doesn’t fit the type of job I’m pursuing, I leave it off. Unless, of course, I don’t have much else.
Might be a problem if it leaves a long gap in your timeline.
Well Im taking double naught spy of my resume. I'm currently in the process of retraining. I just received a Copy of Brain Surgery for Dummies, however I'm keeping my options open for monster truck driver.
You know what they say about references, "it's what they don't say". If there is a gap the tendency is always to assume the worst. Maybe that time was spent in prison?
I always let jobs out of my resume.
As a youth, I always had a summer job. I started at 14. Should I put those jobs in my resume? Absolutely not!
Then I worked as a machinist (lathe operator) while I was studying to become an automotive engineer. Should I put that job in my resume? Absolutely!
Do I have a choice? Can I let those jobs out, when I'm going to apply for an engineer position at the same plant? They already have my employment records.
After working for about 7-8 years as automotive engineer, I switched to software development for more money (double salary actually). Back in my country, Romania, everything was hunky dory with these sort of career changes. It was normal. When you complete some sort of technical post-secondary education in Romania you are supposed to know programming, because no one accepts "hand calculation". Most of the time. you must build a program that does the calculation. That's how it works. So, yeah, switching from various technical fields to computing is like Monday in Romania. No one sees any problem.
The problem arrived after I immigrated to Canada. Employers seem to have an issue with you switching from a management position to a simple developer job.
It does not sound right to 9 people out of 10. No one can comprehend how can you give up on such "amazing" position for a simple one, where leadership skills are not required.
I have been asked to explain countless times, at every interview, all my past decisions. I got tired, so, I removed all those "outrageous" positions from my resume. That did the trick.
I got multiple offers. People thought that I was like 10 years younger. However, they can find your previous jobs, no matter how hard you try to hide them.
Two of my employers asked me to agree to a background check when I got the job. I agreed, and they found out.
There are companies specialized in background checks, they do the job and sell the records to whoever asks and presents your background check agreement with the photo ID.
If you're at the same company but took some roles or worked on some teams that were not so good and wanted to exclude those, would the background check be able to determine that on the application?
if I included every job, I should also include unpaid volunteering that were harder than any job Ive ever had, and if I did that my resume would be 5 pages long.
In short. Can you leave it off your resume? yes. But during an in-depth background check someone CAN ask when you started/ended work. So be prepared to explain any gaps or inconsistencies.
Yes you can
Hi, I have a slightly related question. Soon I will be interviewing for a job I am slightly underqualified for on paper, but considering I come from within the team I am a desired candidate. I expect an offer. Our company works in scales, so the scale is set. The question is: Am i still in a position to negotiate? I know other similar jobs want me and would pay more than the bottom of the range, but I am afraid i will not be able to counter the argument that it is a huge step up either way. How would you do this? Thanks in advance for your or any other commenter's reply!
I was contractor that worked off and on for a government office. I took an oath to uphold certain statutes and to report violations of these. When I reported them I was removed from the department (telling me I did wrong by reporting) and transferred elsewhere and they did not renew my contract. How do I address this on a resume/interview?
If it's not relevant to the job, leave it off. If the interviewers actually read your resume (worst case during the interview for the first time since application), they'll ask about the time gaps. 😉
Can you leave a graduate degree off you're resume, if you are being called "overqualified"?
Sure. Why not?
You can definitely do this. No one is going to check to verify educational levels beyond those required by the job.That being said, I have been in situations where I probably should have done this. One job in particular, they interviewed me 3 different times over 6 months and eventually hired me because the 2-3 people they hired instead didn't work out. I found that tibit out about a year later into my employment there, and also found out part of the reason they were hesitant to hire me because my education / work experience- they thought I would quit the second something better came along, when in reality I was just looking for a less demanding role (of course, I never told them this at any point in the interview, you don't want to admit that).
What if you don't have many jobs to begin with? If I left off jobs than id only have one job lol.
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It is 100% ok
When companies sell you the job do they leave off all the BS that come with the position?
Answer - Yes because companies lie as well and if that company had a bad culture or boss you can
I leave half of my jobs off; extend the periods for jobs I keep on; strategically list my college without dates (dropped out); and put my certifications at the top so they don't even ask about college; I just make it look pretty and make sure I don't fudge it on the background check form
Don’t extend the timeline for employment dates Quickest way to not pass a background check and risk losing the offer.
Do you have any videos on job gaps? I had to stop working for a year due to my son being deathly ill. And its been hard to get a job with such a large gap in employment. Any advice?
I'm number 1! That is all. 😅
Question: Does the airline industry legally need a 10 year employment history? if so where would I see this on the law books?
Well if I'm applying for a job in infosec, I'm not going to list my first job flipping burgers when I was 16..
What about if the job I want to leave off is my current position? It doesn’t add value to my career, and I just took it to close the employment gap after a 1.5 year sabbatical. Please advise.
Works for me.