@02hreblue30 No, this person doesn't know how to drive in snowy conditions. They got off the road and don't know what they need to do to get back on the road. Granted having snow tires would help significantly, but if you have all season or mud tires you can still drive in the snow.
100% tires. You can see the blocks on that jeep are mud. And the 4runner has some sort of all terrain. Snow tires on a subaru will push snow over the bumper. And summer tires it'll be still in the driveway.
@@IAMLEGIT2323 at the end right before the 4th gen passes, you can see the rear tires spin while the front tires ain’t spinning. this is when the rear pivots
@@meair I’d assume this is likely due to traction control, in the beginning they are all 4 spinning. In the beginning/middle, you can see the front tires slinging snow.
It's not about Jeep vs. 4runner. It's about right tires, right drivers, and right moments. A slight mistake can derail you, and things keep going south, which is very hard to recover from.
I once drove 15 miles on a glaze of ice up and down hills and around corners and every other vehicle was off on the side of the road. I was driving a 2004 Subaru Forrester. I had BFG’s on the Subaru. Tires matter.
@@H43339the jeep was probably driving on the darker "lanes" which could have iced up. Look at the Toyota, it's up on the thin layer of plowed, white snow.
It's down to driving skill. Situations like this require low revs. From the wheel spin it's clear the driver in the Jeep doesn't know what to do. And he makes a thoroughly capable vehicle look like a total muppet 😂 Notice how the Toyota rolled past cruising at low rev speed.
@@user-iv7yf1hf8y agreed, there's far too many modern vehicles that aren't up to par with past vehicles. Jeeps are a notorious one, they used to be so legendary.
CJ-style not great in snow, but Cherokees sure are. Over 35 mpg, 4WD and AWD don't help AT ALL - you're hydroplaning on snow. Remember that the next time you see some moron who go off the road.
Finnish here. I have always wondered when watching these kind of videos, why don't people in the US who live in an area like this won't buy winter tires? There is a reason why they exist.
I had almost bald tires, Uniroyal Tiger Paws, on my '81 AMC Eagle, and I walked out of a ditch and grade worse than that. Tires are just a scapegoat. My best friend growing up was embarrassed(and scared) to drive his Jeep in the snow.
4 Runner definitely had more aggressive tires for snow. But also the 4 Runner drove on the snow path not the icy part. In summary its experience along with the tires
It’s not more aggressive tires here. It’s bigger tires. Terrible traction more surface area you have. The best snow fighters, Walters and Osh Kosh, hold weight but only 4 axles 4 tires.
@@VenturaITdoubtful. Its obvious hes trying to get back on the road. You dont "have fun" on a snowy highway. You have fun on an empty back road, a trail, or a big empty parking lot.
G'day Y'all. I am a Canadian with 51 years driving experience and I have never been stuck in the snow and all I have ever driven is 2 × 4 either front or rear wheel drive. Driver knowledge including Tire knowledge are definitely key ! Larry B. 🇨🇦
4 runner stayed in the fresh snow, allowing for snow-snow traction. Jeep was riding the tracks (steeper and more slush) and hydroplaned. Angled road is your worst enemy in snow
You can get a good set and still have issues in snow and heavy rain, I've seen it too many times, jeeps are the worst at hydroplaining bc of the weight distribution and add in snow, sleet and a little ice it's rough
You may have also noticed that the SR5 had his tires on snow that had not been packed into ice yet. I learned that technique growing up driving in Maine.
@@nickyleblanc4200you’re saying that snow with some ice mixed in would make the conditions better for that particular set of tires? I’m from Chicago but the snow isn’t that bad here anymore and we have basically no elevation change. Would love some tips from a fellow northerner
Agreed. All the Jeep driver was concentrating on, was getting ahead of the Toyota. He should have let the Toyota pass, (and any other cars that wanted to get around) and concentrated on getting out of the situation. You don't muscle your way out of the snow. I think if he hadn't tried to race the Toyota, he could have made it out, the first time.
I drive a mustang GT. With snow tires from December 1 through may 1 in Whyoming. Been doing that for 30-ish years. I marvel at the number of 4x4s that can’t manage the places that I drive.
He's on 2wd, not 4wd. You can tell. Only the back wheels are spinning. Thats why the car won't go straight. It's probably a 2wd jeep wrangler instead of 4x4 wrangler Driver should of bought winter tires.
And tire choice probably… that’s what sucks about 35s. Too wide to excel in snow. My landrover on 33x10.5s was never a question in snow, could look buried and it would crawl it’s way out. My LJ on 35x12.5 not nearly as reliable in snow.
I’ve lived in AZ in the valley my whole life recently moved to Tennessee and holy shit driving in snow is so scary. I have an elantra with all season tires I might get a winter set for upcoming winter because I was slipping and sliding. Around corners and up streets
Sure good ties can contribute to positive results but if the driver doesn’t know what they’re doing, even good tires won’t help as you can see from the jeeps results.. when it comes down to it, you must know how to drive in the snow and ice condition. Obviously, this person was not experienced in doing so
From Buffalo, N.Y. So many people don't know how to drive in the snow. Here's the starters; Snow tires are made for a reason. Another is this; The transmission to be slaptinto a lower gear (engine braking) when trying to stop. But to downshift in a lower gear when crawling out of snow. Even 4 wheelers slip and slide in the snow.
The 4Runner has the right tires for the weather.Look like he’s running BFG KO2’s and that Jeep has summer tires with no traction.It doesn’t help that he’s just nailing the throttle and spinning.Once you start spinning in snow-it’s over-zero traction.Spinning only works in mud-snow is all about traction.The correct tire will fill up with snow and hold it-snow on snow is friction-friction is traction.Lesson dispensed.
Long ago I got stuck in mud with an avalanche, the stupid truck couldn't get out in 4L, a first gen 4runner pulled me out like butter with one big yank. Respect for toyotas.
If you told them again like they’ve been told before,they’ll act like they’ve never heard it nor will they ever. Those of us who aren’t millennials have an appropriate word for it. DENIAL…true story…
I got stuck in the mud in Azusa in a lifted 85 Suburban . An 80s Toyota truck pulled me out with no problem. I was young and didn't know about tires and gears. I had 35" all terrains
That's funny, Casey Ladelle from Cascade offroad and recovery used a Jeep for a long long time in snowy conditions to recover folks who were stuck, knowing what you're doing and having the right gear makes all the difference in the world.
I think we can all agree those jeeps are pretty useless tho. Not to rag on them but you get poor gas mileage and the ride is terrible with no benefits 😂
@@marcusfieldfield4069 because it's more likely to be fresh powder than the slush from yesterday, refrozen into a perfectly flat piece of ice, reminiscent of a whiteboard
4runner knew how to drive. Use the unpacked shit for traction. Depends on the tyoe of snow mix you're getting. Sometimes you want to stay in the tracks
He was on the road. The jeep was off the road. It's also a lot tires. My wife always has studded snow tires. She could have beat the 4×4 with her minivan.
@@klj2382 that could be. I wouldn't be passing someone who is spinning his wheels trying to get where you are. That's an accident waiting to happen. It's all tires.
If you have really good snow tires you can even make it up with front wheel drive. Don’t let anyone tell you it’s the drive system. Tires are Everything.
I had good tires just before winter when I brought my car. It's been nearly a year and nearly bald. I think I've got some inside wear although a year is decent for year round.
@@bldontmatter5319 LOL. You aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed are you? The irony is mind boggling. Absolutely nothing that I’ve said is up for debate. Talk about your all time backfires. 🤣
During a huge blizzard in the 2000s, I drove my 1986 4-Runner from the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia to South Jersey. Semis were all pulled over and no other traffic in sight. Many miles of interstate were unplowed, covered in a foot or more of snow, piece of cake. My baby NEVER left me stranded. She died later at 447 K on the odometer.
I've used all terrain and mud and honestly they both worked well. Never had issues. I think all terrains work phenomenal in rain though and are less noisy
@@1Turnatatime How you drive has alot to do with it too, some folks panic and floor it when they lose traction. You're right on the all terrains in the rain, definitely less hydroplaning.
@toxy9754 not gunna to lie, I was just out last night, and I almost slid into a tree with the bed of my truck. Had I not floored it, I would've got messed up. I was able to pull myself back up on the trail. I definitely agree with the panic part, but in snow, you'll only just start digging yourself a hole. Although I was on icey trails last night, terrible paving jobs these guys did 🤣 and it's weird cuz I enjoy the mud tires I got now and they've been great in the rain too, I literally floor it through puddles and may slide in the direction of the tire with the lower tread which is normally the right. Both control arms are shot though
@@1Turnatatime lol glad you made it out in one piece! I love my Jeep but I do miss having a good ol manual RWD pickup. Always had pickups & sports cars when I was younger and getting sideways was just part of my daily drive 🤣
As other said. He’s prob running wrong tires, you need run snow tires. Don’t matter what vehicle you’re driving, if has shit all season. Of course it slide all over the place durning a blizzard.
One word: real snow tires. A surprising amount of Americans seem to disregard the need for that. No sane Norwegian/Finn/Swede would neglect to use them.
I used to live in CO. I owned a 2WD XTERRA. I used to swap my regular tires for winter strutted tires and drive around in the snow like any other day with zero issues. That being said, having the right tire for the right season is a must!
Here in New Jersey the 4 x 4 guys think they can do 60 miles an hour in 6 inches of snow on the interstate and then you pass them a mile up in your Honda Civic because they’re on the roof first bend in the highway
I have a rear wheel drive bmw that goes no where with its 19inch low profiles in just a light snow covering. Put a set of 16 inch snow tyres on, it turns into a snow plough and goes through a heavy covering with no problems
@@eggpod4567 that has to be the worst comment I’ve ever seen 😂. Subarus are decent at best. They lack power and the ones that do have power blow head gaskets and bend rods all the time 😂. Not to mention the weak clutches and transmissions.
I would say that was more about the drivers rather than the different vehicles. The 4Runner driver is keeping his tires on the packed snow rather than the ice and going slowly to maintain control.
Yeah I was just about to reply this and then I saw your comment, that's the exact same thing I do in a semi-truck when there's ice all over the road I hot the packed snow that what you have grip and traction.
And the Jeep is on a much steeper gradient, but the Jeep probably just backed up and got out of the gutter on a different path. That Jeep is just playing around.
I have had 4 Wranglers (2 YJs and 2 TJs), and now I have a Gladiator. I live up in New Hampshire, and I have never had an issue like this in the winter. The problem here is driver error and/or wrong tires.
Gods do TJs ever suck on ice though even with winter tires .. so glad I have a grand Cherokee and a power wagon for winter now and just use my TJ for fun in the summer
@@LancesterHardwoodactually no it wouldn't. It's one of the widely known problems w lockers. U lose traction w both tires you no longer have stability sideways and will slide sideways in the direction of the slope. Whether on a hill in mud or snow/ice. Front tires can be mitigated by counter steering. Rear is most definitely a no go.
@danielbigger490 Lockers are not so good in snow, they make both wheels slip instead of just one. Diff should be free so the wheels slip independently. When wheeling on snow, you want your tires or chains to adhere to the snow - you won't be going anywhere if you try to dig the snow out with the wheels.
Explain how they drove this in 1970's when no one could afford winter tires. You had Steel Belted tires.. With steel wire inside... Manual Steering, Manual Brakes with no anti locking brake systems. Single tire spin traction systems. Our car technology is from another planet but peoples ability to utilize it has gone backwards.
@@dootdoot1867 I drove 4X4s for 20 years before retirement. Modern studless winter tires are much better than the old studded type. They have microbubbles in the rubber that expose pits to grab the snow as they wear.
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I’m not a Jeep fan. But something I’ve learned as an off-roader is 90% is having the correct tires for a situation
Don't forget tire pressure. Let some air out and get up that hill!
@@paullund3263 exactly
Once fiat bought jeep it all went down hill .
Yes Winter tires and offroad tires is not same
@One chanin is not nesecery you can see car with Winter tires can go normaly...4x4 can help if you have also hevy right leg
A classic case of "I don't need winter tires, I have a 4x4"
I've done just fine with bald ass tires in a fwd
Edit: and I'm talking the rock's head kind of bald, almost into cords.
I hope it's that and not the jeep is not good.
I've never had a set of winter tires in my life and never had a problem. And I have a 4x4 lol
@@char_cole4680maybe its because you never driven in actual winter conditions?
@lauriviik I live in maine you idiot...so yeah, I've driven in actual snow conditions🤦♂️
That's not a jeep problem, that's a driver problem!
Tires
"It's a jeep thing" 😂
Correct! Just because they can afford one doesn’t mean they know how to drive it.
@02hreblue30 No, this person doesn't know how to drive in snowy conditions. They got off the road and don't know what they need to do to get back on the road. Granted having snow tires would help significantly, but if you have all season or mud tires you can still drive in the snow.
@@brandonreder9869true, but I think tires make a huge difference here. And a good driver would know better
Thought it was the jeep, then I realized it was the driver
That isn't a jeep issue that is a tire and user error.
To harsh on the ol gas pedal. And tires are not for snow and ice
Trans and 4wd set up is also better on the 4 runner and probably also has locking diffs mabey.
Jeeps are for women.
100% tires. You can see the blocks on that jeep are mud. And the 4runner has some sort of all terrain.
Snow tires on a subaru will push snow over the bumper. And summer tires it'll be still in the driveway.
no mames wey😅
That’s what happens when you leave your summer tires on a 4X4.
looks like it’s a 4x2, at the end his rear slides out when he applies throttle and the front tires aren’t spinnin
@@meairthey’re clearly all spinning
@@IAMLEGIT2323 at the end right before the 4th gen passes, you can see the rear tires spin while the front tires ain’t spinning. this is when the rear pivots
@@meair I’d assume this is likely due to traction control, in the beginning they are all 4 spinning. In the beginning/middle, you can see the front tires slinging snow.
Should have lowered the tire pressure.
It's not about Jeep vs. 4runner. It's about right tires, right drivers, and right moments. A slight mistake can derail you, and things keep going south, which is very hard to recover from.
Them BFG Ko2’s on the 4Runner are showing it’s the clear winner in these conditions
He stayed on the road
I was looking for this exact comment.
I once drove 15 miles on a glaze of ice up and down hills and around corners and every other vehicle was off on the side of the road. I was driving a 2004 Subaru Forrester.
I had BFG’s on the Subaru. Tires matter.
That’s 100% a tire issue
both are all terrains
No it's not, look what they are driving in ?
One on the road and the jeep on the shoulder in the plowed snow.
@@Enchanted3DPrintsnope
@@H43339the jeep was probably driving on the darker "lanes" which could have iced up.
Look at the Toyota, it's up on the thin layer of plowed, white snow.
It's down to driving skill. Situations like this require low revs. From the wheel spin it's clear the driver in the Jeep doesn't know what to do. And he makes a thoroughly capable vehicle look like a total muppet 😂
Notice how the Toyota rolled past cruising at low rev speed.
It’s the tires.
skill issue
Driver
yeah that guy doesn't have the know how
Let sum air ought
Let me guess the 50 likes are from jeep fan boys and girls😂
Bruh that 4 runner just couldn’t stop 🤣🤣🤣
4runner owner here. Love the video but the 4runner should have had his lights on!
I'm a toyota guy, but I don't think it was the jeeps fault. It was the driver who doesn't know how to drive
Or that he needs proper tires. Driver was the fault 100%, that jeep would eat that up without him/her behind the wheel.
It appears to me that he has his locker’s engaged. 🙏🙏👍💪
@@TrustMelDontCare True, though you still shouldn't buy one. All the Fiat jeeps are absolute crap.
@@user-iv7yf1hf8y agreed, there's far too many modern vehicles that aren't up to par with past vehicles. Jeeps are a notorious one, they used to be so legendary.
CJ-style not great in snow, but Cherokees sure are. Over 35 mpg, 4WD and AWD don't help AT ALL - you're hydroplaning on snow. Remember that the next time you see some moron who go off the road.
Tire choice is key
Driver experience trumps everything else.
How bout some snow chains too lol
@@kennethcurtis1856 to an extent.
It’s the engine also too much power for frozen surfaces 😂
KO2s FTW
Toyota deserve and have the respect on every level, believe me there’s nothing better than toyota.
Arab loves their Land Cruisers!
@Spooner4040 no mustangs can't go fast because they go right when they try 😂
The manufacturer has absolutely nothing to do with it in these conditions.
@@davedawe2420
Exactly👍. The Toyota had no problem because its owner was smart enough to put chains on the vehicle.
It's all in preparation 🤷.
@@davedawe2420True but Toyota makes good shit. Might be biased because I drive a Tacoma.
best thing to do when you get stuck like that is to panic and push go crazy on gas
Canadian here...this is a classic case of winter tires VS no winter tires .
Norwegian here... My 2005 FWD Opel Astra would handle these conditions with the right tires... such a misleading video.
Toyota Vs Jeep.
Is the tires
Damn near looks like they both have KO2s. This ain’t so much about tires but simply vehicle placement.
Finnish here. I have always wondered when watching these kind of videos, why don't people in the US who live in an area like this won't buy winter tires? There is a reason why they exist.
Perfect proof of the importance of tires
Were the chains for the wheels 😅
Facts 💯
A rearwheel drive Mustang with proper tires will easily outrun a Hummer with the wrong tires in the snow. Tires are everything!
Short wheel based Jeeps are very nervous on slippery roads...
That Toyota was stylin' on the Jeep.
If you want to see the mountains buy a jeep, if you want to make it home buy a Toyota.
Winter tires have left the chat
Yea dude didn't change out the all terrain tires 🤣
Tires are everything!
I had almost bald tires, Uniroyal Tiger Paws, on my '81 AMC Eagle, and I walked out of a ditch and grade worse than that. Tires are just a scapegoat.
My best friend growing up was embarrassed(and scared) to drive his Jeep in the snow.
The driver is everything
And the PSI of the wind in em.
Looks like they both had BFG
Knowing how to drive in various conditions is everything.
Just as a rule of thumb: Things that look cool usually function poorly.
it's all about tires and driving skills
4 Runner definitely had more aggressive tires for snow. But also the 4 Runner drove on the snow path not the icy part. In summary its experience along with the tires
It’s not more aggressive tires here. It’s bigger tires. Terrible traction more surface area you have. The best snow fighters, Walters and Osh Kosh, hold weight but only 4 axles 4 tires.
The BFG KO2’s on the 4 runner aren’t bad in the snow. Not great either. But like you said he woulda had trouble if he hit the same ice
If you spin, you don't win . Slow, let the tire do a handshake with surface .
100% correct
Jeeps are too light
Stop wailing on the gas and let the torque do the work. Guy in the Toyota probably doesn't even have his foot on the pedal.
Jeep is just playing around, not stuck, they cut the video before the Jeep just backed up and out to the easy path the Honda was taking.
@@VenturaIT the only Honda I see is the one in front of the camera guy ))
but, yeah, possibly driver was just having fun
@@VenturaIT 😂
@@VenturaITcope
@@VenturaITdoubtful. Its obvious hes trying to get back on the road. You dont "have fun" on a snowy highway. You have fun on an empty back road, a trail, or a big empty parking lot.
I could imagine the drivers face seeing the Toyota going by 😂😂😂😂😂
Makes a good tv ad for Toyota look how seamless he’s driving past that useless jeep 😂
It’s not the vehicle, it’s the tires and the driver all day!
It's called "Ice" tires kids. Not aggressive tread, but clever materials and tread design. Signed all of Canada.
💯
G'day Y'all. I am a Canadian with 51 years driving experience and I have never been stuck in the snow and all I have ever driven is 2 × 4 either front or rear wheel drive. Driver knowledge including Tire knowledge are definitely key !
Larry B. 🇨🇦
Lots of siping is key. The more siping, the more the tread will grip ice (and slick pavement in general).
Here come the experts
4 runner stayed in the fresh snow, allowing for snow-snow traction. Jeep was riding the tracks (steeper and more slush) and hydroplaned. Angled road is your worst enemy in snow
"I will get the cheap tyres. I already spent to much on the rims."
Then this happens
Definitely cheap out on the tyres so you can afford bigger blingier rims.
Bahahahaha "but I look so cool, I'm the only one with a jeep"
Those aren't cheap tires, those are wrong tires.
@@mike6571 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 so spot on brother
You can get a good set and still have issues in snow and heavy rain, I've seen it too many times, jeeps are the worst at hydroplaining bc of the weight distribution and add in snow, sleet and a little ice it's rough
It's not always the rig sometimes it's the driver. Props to Mr SR5.
You may have also noticed that the SR5 had his tires on snow that had not been packed into ice yet. I learned that technique growing up driving in Maine.
@@nickyleblanc4200you’re saying that snow with some ice mixed in would make the conditions better for that particular set of tires? I’m from Chicago but the snow isn’t that bad here anymore and we have basically no elevation change. Would love some tips from a fellow northerner
@virtuerse he's saying it's worse. SR5 man has his tires in the good spots of snow where ice hasn't formed yet or the snow has gone completely solid
Agreed. All the Jeep driver was concentrating on, was getting ahead of the Toyota. He should have let the Toyota pass, (and any other cars that wanted to get around) and concentrated on getting out of the situation. You don't muscle your way out of the snow. I think if he hadn't tried to race the Toyota, he could have made it out, the first time.
@@sharkeatinpizza ah okay, thanks for the clarification.
Wrong tires, wrong driver.
"I don't need winter tyres, I have a 4x4" - his famous last words
I drive a mustang GT. With snow tires from December 1 through may 1 in Whyoming. Been doing that for 30-ish years. I marvel at the number of 4x4s that can’t manage the places that I drive.
U Live
U Learn¿!?
I have a 4x4 with snow tires. I go places you can only dream of. 😂@@anselpeneloperainblossom-s3489
I live in Alaska, drive a Nissan xterra with 4 wheel drive. All weather tires work just fine.
You are correct. I've seen 4x4 s unable to move with all 4 tires spinning. I drove by with the same vehicle but had winters.
"I don't need winter tires, I have 4x4 bro."
You don’t need snow tires. 99.9% of people don’t. 😂
I have a jeep bro, you ever seen one like mine, I bet not 😅
He's on 2wd, not 4wd. You can tell. Only the back wheels are spinning. Thats why the car won't go straight.
It's probably a 2wd jeep wrangler instead of 4x4 wrangler
Driver should of bought winter tires.
Dudes probably on mud terrains cause you know…. Them puddles at the mall bro
@rodolphestpreux what's the use of jeep if it isn't 4wd?
Some will say Tires, Others will say, Driver, However there is something about a 4 runner I just like.
It’s not the Jeep. It’s the driver.
The problem is not the technology -
The problem is sitting behind the steering wheel!
По русски говоря: «прокладка между рулём и сиденьем»)
You are correct 💯😅😂😂
And tire choice probably… that’s what sucks about 35s. Too wide to excel in snow. My landrover on 33x10.5s was never a question in snow, could look buried and it would crawl it’s way out. My LJ on 35x12.5 not nearly as reliable in snow.
@@tomgleason9093my 35x10.5 do very well in the snow I can drive where I want with them
It’s the tyres. Not the driver’s skill.
Man it’s called patience and being gentle on the throttle.
Also tires is like 80% of the problem
I’ve lived in AZ in the valley my whole life recently moved to Tennessee and holy shit driving in snow is so scary. I have an elantra with all season tires I might get a winter set for upcoming winter because I was slipping and sliding. Around corners and up streets
Either run studs on ice or drop the tires to 8 psi or less. That's just silly.
tires
@@ashtonl6122 It's scary if you aren't used to it but it's pretty much normal in regions that know how to handle it.
Lmao the four runner just cruisin by had me laughing so hard
dont blame the ride, its the rider and you know that
That jeep guy was just waiting for this moment and he completely blew it.
Embarrassed not only himself but the whole jeep community.
@@camaroman101
they embarrassed themselves when they bought a jeep
Lol
Mud tires ain't worth a shit in snow
It's all about the tires. Look at the nice tread on that 4runner
nah...that is more operator error.
Sure good ties can contribute to positive results but if the driver doesn’t know what they’re doing, even good tires won’t help as you can see from the jeeps results.. when it comes down to it, you must know how to drive in the snow and ice condition. Obviously, this person was not experienced in doing so
Jeep guy wasted all his money on all that useless gear and now can't afford tires lol
@@TheAngryFishh…word up! 🙃🤪
Yeah, the 4 runner guy knows, tires, correct route and the right vehicle.
From Buffalo, N.Y. So many people don't know how to drive in the snow. Here's the starters; Snow tires are made for a reason. Another is this; The transmission to be slaptinto a lower gear (engine braking) when trying to stop. But to downshift in a lower gear when crawling out of snow. Even 4 wheelers slip and slide in the snow.
Toyota driver is from upper Michigan and didn't spill a drop of beer.😂
What’s the Toyota model?
@@aykraxart7238looks like a 4runner
@@aykraxart7238also says it in the description 😂
Them Yoopers...😊
@@naudelrussell4868 did see it lol but thx
That jeep and 4Runner are driving in two very different conditions at that moment
Exactly. This comparison makes no sense.
nah jeep couldnt drive right went to the side
Guess why he got in to that condition in the first place.
How did he end up off the road
but my commuter car could get out while the jeep can't. Probably on summer tires lmao.
Jeep: the best on road off-road vehicle for driving through Starbucks
The 4Runner has the right tires for the weather.Look like he’s running BFG KO2’s
and that Jeep has summer tires with no traction.It doesn’t help that he’s just nailing the throttle and spinning.Once you start spinning in snow-it’s over-zero traction.Spinning only works in mud-snow is all about traction.The correct tire will fill up with snow and hold it-snow on snow is friction-friction is traction.Lesson dispensed.
Long ago I got stuck in mud with an avalanche, the stupid truck couldn't get out in 4L, a first gen 4runner pulled me out like butter with one big yank. Respect for toyotas.
If you told them again like they’ve been told before,they’ll act like they’ve never heard it nor will they ever. Those of us who aren’t millennials have an appropriate word for it. DENIAL…true story…
@@user-li3so1tb2t cool story boomer
Not surprised the avalanche is basically a Tahoe lmao. That and an underpowered 5.3 for off roading.
So you got stuck in a spot that even the best of tires couldn't get you out of... mud?
I got stuck in the mud in Azusa in a lifted 85 Suburban . An 80s Toyota truck pulled me out with no problem. I was young and didn't know about tires and gears. I had 35" all terrains
That is not a jeep problem, that is a driver problem.
Lack of snow tire problem.
Jeeps are a problem
That's what I was going say
100% a Jeep problem, because people who buy Jeeps are the same people who put the wrong tires on it during snow season. It's all circular.
@@dogg92 Actually…I think you make a good point.
That's funny, Casey Ladelle from Cascade offroad and recovery used a Jeep for a long long time in snowy conditions to recover folks who were stuck, knowing what you're doing and having the right gear makes all the difference in the world.
It’s not the Jeep. It’s the damn driver.
It is not the car, it is the driver!!! 😜
100%
I think we can all agree those jeeps are pretty useless tho. Not to rag on them but you get poor gas mileage and the ride is terrible with no benefits 😂
@@murkyturkey5238….A Jeep is by far, the best 4 wheel vehicle made. By far.
It's actually the tires. the 4Runner has snow tires, Jeep has AT.
Probably was the driver but Jeeps are still garbage anyway
Difference is the 4Runner driver knew how, and just as importantly WHERE, to drive on the slippery road.
Is that a Sequoia? Looks nice tbh
There’s no 4Runner in this video. That is an FJ Cruiser.
@@alexcharles8541 there's no Fj Cruiser in this video. That is a Sequoia.
@@alexcharles8541 There’s no FJ Cruiser in this video. That is a Wagon Queen Family Truckster.
@@slapdat.bytemetheres no wagon queen family truckster in this video. Thats a caterpillar 797
That 4 runner was like oh excuse me miss 😂
The Jeep: Slipping on the road and getting stuck on snow
The 4Runner: 🗿
Toyota knows how to drive in the snow, keeps his left tire on the white
Exactly 👍😎
Livin in Maine my own life, you tend to learn how to drive even better on ice n snow my friend. 🙃
Right
Grew up in the mountains of PA and you are correct. My front wheel drive saturn SL would do fine on that road lol
Why do you keep your left tire on the white line ?
@@marcusfieldfield4069 because it's more likely to be fresh powder than the slush from yesterday, refrozen into a perfectly flat piece of ice, reminiscent of a whiteboard
I live in northern Ontario and drive a diesel jeep, that is a simple solution. Right tires for the right conditions
4runner knew how to drive. Use the unpacked shit for traction. Depends on the tyoe of snow mix you're getting. Sometimes you want to stay in the tracks
Toyota just cruising passed is insult to injury lmao 😂😂😂
That's got to be extremely embarrassing
He was on the road. The jeep was off the road. It's also a lot tires. My wife always has studded snow tires. She could have beat the 4×4 with her minivan.
Yeah, his tires were crap.
@@justincoats7236the Jeep was there because it was sliding off the road.
@@klj2382 that could be. I wouldn't be passing someone who is spinning his wheels trying to get where you are. That's an accident waiting to happen. It's all tires.
If you have really good snow tires you can even make it up with front wheel drive. Don’t let anyone tell you it’s the drive system. Tires are Everything.
I had good tires just before winter when I brought my car. It's been nearly a year and nearly bald. I think I've got some inside wear although a year is decent for year round.
Wrong. And FWD would be much better than RWD. 😂 Your tires could be bald as fuck with AWD and you’d have no problem.
@@Carl_McMelvinno traction means movement. You don't understand basic physics.
@@bldontmatter5319 LOL. You aren’t the sharpest tool in the shed are you? The irony is mind boggling. Absolutely nothing that I’ve said is up for debate. Talk about your all time backfires. 🤣
@@bldontmatter5319 tell me you live in a tropical climate without telling me.
Actually jeep guy wanted to overtake 4runner in order to make 4 runner look down , however resverse happened 😂
During a huge blizzard in the 2000s, I drove my 1986 4-Runner from the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia to South Jersey. Semis were all pulled over and no other traffic in sight. Many miles of interstate were unplowed, covered in a foot or more of snow, piece of cake. My baby NEVER left me stranded. She died later at 447 K on the odometer.
As a Jeep heater, I have to be honest. It's the tires and the driver more than anything. Poor guy. The 4Runner should have at least towed him out.
I'm sure a Subaru came along and helped him at some point
Tip - Mud terrain tires can get packed full of snow and now you're driving on skinny snowballs. Mud terrain is not all terrain.
Snow tracts better on snow then rubber, real snow tires hold snow in the grooves to use as an advantage. However mud tires aren't snow tires still.
I've used all terrain and mud and honestly they both worked well. Never had issues. I think all terrains work phenomenal in rain though and are less noisy
@@1Turnatatime How you drive has alot to do with it too, some folks panic and floor it when they lose traction. You're right on the all terrains in the rain, definitely less hydroplaning.
@toxy9754 not gunna to lie, I was just out last night, and I almost slid into a tree with the bed of my truck. Had I not floored it, I would've got messed up. I was able to pull myself back up on the trail. I definitely agree with the panic part, but in snow, you'll only just start digging yourself a hole. Although I was on icey trails last night, terrible paving jobs these guys did 🤣 and it's weird cuz I enjoy the mud tires I got now and they've been great in the rain too, I literally floor it through puddles and may slide in the direction of the tire with the lower tread which is normally the right. Both control arms are shot though
@@1Turnatatime lol glad you made it out in one piece! I love my Jeep but I do miss having a good ol manual RWD pickup. Always had pickups & sports cars when I was younger and getting sideways was just part of my daily drive 🤣
Let's jack it up and have big fat tires, nothing will stop me. Tall skinny tires are better in the snow as well as knowing how to drive.
As other said. He’s prob running wrong tires, you need run snow tires. Don’t matter what vehicle you’re driving, if has shit all season. Of course it slide all over the place durning a blizzard.
One word: real snow tires. A surprising amount of Americans seem to disregard the need for that. No sane Norwegian/Finn/Swede would neglect to use them.
And Canadian
@@snowgorilla9789 was coming here to say the same thing, lol. Cheers
Mud tires are the best tires for snow
Put a new set on every year in the mountains..... never had a problem with snow... slush.... ice
Running Nokian WG4’s
Tire quality is the most important!
yup ... it helps if they have TREAD!
And air down
Fun fact: most of the aftermarket parts on my Toyota were purchased from money I made towing Jeeps out of the forest. 🔧
staying on the road vs being off the road
I used to live in CO. I owned a 2WD XTERRA. I used to swap my regular tires for winter strutted tires and drive around in the snow like any other day with zero issues. That being said, having the right tire for the right season is a must!
Here in New Jersey the 4 x 4 guys think they can do 60 miles an hour in 6 inches of snow on the interstate and then you pass them a mile up in your Honda Civic because they’re on the roof first bend in the highway
I have a rear wheel drive bmw that goes no where with its 19inch low profiles in just a light snow covering. Put a set of 16 inch snow tyres on, it turns into a snow plough and goes through a heavy covering with no problems
The more shit we talk on our awesome state the less people will move here. You gotta make it sound awful. We got too many people now!! Stop it!!
who cares
Studs can get you so far up in the mountains where I live…
It’s more about the driver than the vehicle in these situations 😂
I was thinking that. Toyota kept to the uphill side. May have had more suitable tires.
no it's not.. it's about the tires...
yeah the drivers selection of tires
No good operator 😅
Jeeps are garbage
Jeep: FUCK!
4runner: U cant park there mate. 🧐
4 wheel drive is useful but on solid ice, it’s not invincible.
The tacoma said hey man better luck next year😂
Respect to any vehicle with the right set of tires on it and the right amount of throttle.
Like others said…it’s the tires. Makes a huge difference.
If his intention was to be drifting and plowing at the same time...then hes a genius
I love the Toyota casually passing by
It's not because it's a Jeep it's because hes on the shoulder
@@davidmclaws604
And why did he end up on the shoulder in the first place
Toyotas and Subarus are the kings of the road.
I love the CRV sitting in front of them.
@@eggpod4567 that has to be the worst comment I’ve ever seen 😂. Subarus are decent at best. They lack power and the ones that do have power blow head gaskets and bend rods all the time 😂. Not to mention the weak clutches and transmissions.
4 runners are stealth.
The ones recording somehow came out dumber than the driver 😂
“But I had it in 4H, that’s higher power right?” Very common mistake in these situations
its just funny to make fun of jeeps because their owners literally think they are the only capable vehicles on the road.
They aren’t the only capable but they are the most capable.
Solid axles or nothing when the going gets really rough. It’s just a fact.
@@AlphanumericCharacters and yet here we are, commenting on a video where the going appears to have gotten too tough for the Jeep and its solid axles
@@mrkazmanIt's the driver
@@AlphanumericCharacters Wouldn't say most capable... Subarus and 4Runners can easily beat Jeeps
@@frafraplanner9277 lol Subarus and 4runners can beat jeep at what? Grocery hauling?
I would say that was more about the drivers rather than the different vehicles. The 4Runner driver is keeping his tires on the packed snow rather than the ice and going slowly to maintain control.
Yeah I was just about to reply this and then I saw your comment, that's the exact same thing I do in a semi-truck when there's ice all over the road I hot the packed snow that what you have grip and traction.
Bingo!
And the Jeep is on a much steeper gradient, but the Jeep probably just backed up and got out of the gutter on a different path. That Jeep is just playing around.
輪胎风太多
That’s not a jeep, that’s a mall crawler. There is a difference.
"Notice all the air in the tires" - Heavy Southern Accent
THIS is why you run WINTER TIRES during cold months. It does not matter how powerful your engine may be, if you have no traction.
Straight truth, having 4wd doesn’t mean you can stop in snowy conditions. Which people seem to forget even tho you’d think it’s common sense
I have had 4 Wranglers (2 YJs and 2 TJs), and now I have a Gladiator. I live up in New Hampshire, and I have never had an issue like this in the winter. The problem here is driver error and/or wrong tires.
I absolutely agree
You are correct 💯
Gods do TJs ever suck on ice though even with winter tires .. so glad I have a grand Cherokee and a power wagon for winter now and just use my TJ for fun in the summer
@@ericmarshall5548Agreed
The front end of that 4Runner was smiling and you know it
The person in the yota obviously knows a little bit about driving in snow and ice too
4Runner didn't even need to have his headlights on. They already know he's coming.
Not only a tire issue, but he's got his lockers on like a dingus.
Lockers would help to go straight actually...
Its simply a tire issue.
@@LancesterHardwoodactually no it wouldn't. It's one of the widely known problems w lockers. U lose traction w both tires you no longer have stability sideways and will slide sideways in the direction of the slope. Whether on a hill in mud or snow/ice. Front tires can be mitigated by counter steering. Rear is most definitely a no go.
@@stotheak Exactly, better for one tire to slip not an entire axle haha
@@stotheak That’s all true except it’s the front axle you don’t want locked so they can steer and counter steer for rear slippage.
@danielbigger490 Lockers are not so good in snow, they make both wheels slip instead of just one. Diff should be free so the wheels slip independently. When wheeling on snow, you want your tires or chains to adhere to the snow - you won't be going anywhere if you try to dig the snow out with the wheels.
This is why I am a hard core Toyota fan. I have a Yaris with 418,000 miles on it. Never once got stuck in the snow or slid off the road
Always easier to just drive along in the grooves in a winter storm than trying to get off an icy shoulder.
It's not the Jeep's fault. It just needs winter tires.
Explain how they drove this in 1970's when no one could afford winter tires. You had Steel Belted tires.. With steel wire inside... Manual Steering, Manual Brakes with no anti locking brake systems. Single tire spin traction systems. Our car technology is from another planet but peoples ability to utilize it has gone backwards.
@@dootdoot1867 I drove 4X4s for 20 years before retirement. Modern studless winter tires are much better than the old studded type. They have microbubbles in the rubber that expose pits to grab the snow as they wear.
@@flagmichael I'm talking steel belted radials on a 1974 Tornado. For an example.
That jeep needs a winter driver.😮
Toyota was like please get outta my way holding up traffic 😂😂