@@melissapadilla812 I understand where you're coming from but to me it doesn't seem so cut and dry. We have two sets of prayer now. Those who use it as a unifying force and those who use it as a sword to cut down their opposition at every turn. It created a fracture within the church and as a former believer myself I'm simultaneously glad I'm no longer taking part in either side of that but also saddened by the fact that it's gotten as bad as it is. Worst part is now we're seeing legislators and even the Supreme Court trying their damndest to mandate religion in other facets of life. No other developed nation seems to have this problem. People should have the freedom to choose and be left alone if they wish. But that's unfortunately not what we're seeing nowadays.
@@melissapadilla812 how does prayer bring about unification when I, and many others, are nonreligious??? Prayer in public schools alienates non religious folk and those who believe in other faiths besides Christianity
Many public schools now teach anti-Christian messages under the guise of "Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion". They did this at a public school my son attended for 2 years, and I pulled him out.
@@Zlervo You christofascists are insane. You complain about the second amendment being violated while you are pushing to violate the first amendment. God has no place in school.
Prayer should be allowed in school, and anywhere in public for that matter, but not enforced. You have that right as an American. Duh! It’s unconstitutional to deny people their religious freedoms by law. My 2 cents for the day.
You have religious freedom in the US. Government buildings are the only places where constitutional rights can be limited. That is not a new concept, and it has always been like that.
"If God does not exist, then everything is permissible." -- Fyodor Dostoyevsky That's the reason these supposed "leaders' in the United States and other countries want God out of the schools, out of your life, out of my life and, most of all, out of their own lives. That way they can do their evil deeds without a conscience.
May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit. Romans 15:13
@@patrickphilip777 If religion is moral and non religion immoral as you suggest, why are the biggest religioses groups also the richest? This shouldn't be the case if immorality leads to making money. Religion squeeses money out of people since money exist with there products "Hope" and "Forgivness".
They want fairness, because some people are not christians or religious at all. Why should they pray christian prayers, if they believe in something else or lack in believe?
Damn right, prayer should be an individual activity, or if there is a congregation it should be a choice, no one should be forced against their will to adhere to any religion or lack there of.
@@johnpaulabocad6941 so you'd be okay if we rotated the prayer every day. 1 day is a Jew prayer, next a Muslim prayer, next a Christian prayer.... after all your kid wouldn't have to stand up... Ass hat
So you are saying that it is up to schools to teach morality.....not parents at home? But when those same schools want to teach safe sex education, birth control etc......many of these same parents say that those should be up to the parents, not the school....it's very simple....conservative parents want their kids to be taught things they agree with........and be quiet to their kids about things they disagree with......nothing wrong with prayer, it just shouldn't be forced......especially one type of prayer....Christian prayer on all students....you can't favor one religion over others.
@ johnnie smith: If I could jump up and down in support of your comment, I would do so. You are absolutely right. Taking down the Ten Commandments was the Beginning of the End.
You morons REALLY don't know the 10 Commandments is a man made movie. Right? There exists no list of 10 in scripture. Basically a graven image, worshipers of dogma if it's displayed anywhere. You imbeciles are the exact hate that hung Jesus in the story. Pathetic
Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it. How many decades ago did they gain control over our political parties? The early 60's were turning points, especially in 1963.
1st-Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
@@gregjames9875 right. And what does establishing a religion mean? What is it when a government entity says "hey now, children we are going to recite morning prayer to jesus."? In a facility those children are compelled by law to attend? Would you be making the argument if say pastafarianism was what the prayer was centered around? What about Islam? Satanism? The teachers choice?
@@gregjames9875 the law specifically banned teacher lead prayer. Individuals can choose to pray whenever they like provided they are not causing a disturbance. The kids are also free to form bible clubs or other religious clubs. This right has been upheld repeatedly in court.
Jefferson's letter to the Danbury baptist association was about letting all christian denominations in America, Jefferson said the state cannot establish one christian denomination but they are to allow all denominations that's why the context of the letter matters the court took the letter out of context, and I can't say it enough context!! Context!! Context!! Matters
@@HogExeNadoUser Thats because you don't recognize them, the world has been so corrupted that you really would not recognize lack of Christian Values. For example, do you have prayer to start each day. Are you being taught the WOKE values.
How else can you carry out the great commission? The Bible says we are to pray at all times... this has always been over reach of power in my opinion. Freedom of speech except for when it goes against government. Well, we must obey God above all else, even when it goes against the rulers that deny God. Government is given for our benefit and safety from God, but the LORD is the Supreme Authority
Not the right stance or position for JFK to uphold regarding the banning of school prayer by the Supreme Court in 1963. His statement here during this press conference was an affront to the majority of Catholics, as well as Protestants who supported and voted for him. He should have offered an alternative for public school students to meet in a private room, or be allowed to pray, at least silently outside the classroom. Private, silent forms of prayer were eventually allowed in public schools, to accommodate students of other beliefs and faiths. President Kennedy might have endorsed this right, but I don't believe he ever articulated it and endorsed the idea while in office, and as the first Catholic President. That said, he was one of our greatest presidents and moved our country into world leadership in space exploration and technology. Our nation was secure and prosperous, despite the Cuban Missile Crisis, a very tenuous and worrisome period. His leadership and resolve diffused it and kept America from nuclear war due to his superb leadership.
Prayer at schools if allowed should be allowed for any religion NOT just Christianity. America was founded not even on Christianity, the founding fathers were Deist, that God came down manufactured the whole universe and then left it to us to be caretakers, and that thereby God is in each and every one of us. But, in Islam God never left, he has been nd always is there.
Nah, I notice that serial killings and drug use and f0rnicati0n went up after they banned prayer and bibles in schools. If anything, society without Jesus, is trashy. Look at how people are acting now, they have no grip on reality. They think they're snails that can switch genders.
I honestly completely disagree. As a Catholic Christian and a Knight of Columbus, I think the student should be allowed to pray in a public school. Regardless of what the school administration says. As for me, I went to public schools in my past life and I wasn’t allowed to pray in public schools and wasn’t allowed to express my religious beliefs and views. As for what President Kennedy did, I think he made a big mistake.
@@alanbourbeau24 you can pray all you want. But just as one can't forbid you from praying, they cant force, coerce, or pressure you to do it either. Having any authority figure in a school lead a prayer has that effect.
It only banned prayer organized as a group. A school is not a freaking church. No one in their right mind would ban someone privately praying. That’s literally thought crime lmao
@@PunkShockRock Nothing was overturned, it simply said that individuals groups can still pray in school......but it's not school administration routine enforced on everybody, like it was in the past.
Verybad for our children and nation and Roe v Wade closely followed, then decades later gay marriage, all against the word of God - no, i will not support the supreme court in any of this‼️ psalm 33:12
This didn't age well, just look at this generation.
I’m gen z and I feel completely alone in my worldview. It’s sad
What about this generation specifically has you upset at it?
@@ghostofsilence2697 Everyone is divided, prayer brings unification, makes people feel loved, and creates a strong foundation, even for non believers.
@@melissapadilla812 I understand where you're coming from but to me it doesn't seem so cut and dry. We have two sets of prayer now. Those who use it as a unifying force and those who use it as a sword to cut down their opposition at every turn. It created a fracture within the church and as a former believer myself I'm simultaneously glad I'm no longer taking part in either side of that but also saddened by the fact that it's gotten as bad as it is. Worst part is now we're seeing legislators and even the Supreme Court trying their damndest to mandate religion in other facets of life. No other developed nation seems to have this problem. People should have the freedom to choose and be left alone if they wish. But that's unfortunately not what we're seeing nowadays.
@@melissapadilla812 how does prayer bring about unification when I, and many others, are nonreligious??? Prayer in public schools alienates non religious folk and those who believe in other faiths besides Christianity
Many public schools now teach anti-Christian messages under the guise of "Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion". They did this at a public school my son attended for 2 years, and I pulled him out.
Good on you for pulling him out of that God-less school.
And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.
Romans 8:28
Ok white man. Cry me a river!
@@Zlervo You christofascists are insane. You complain about the second amendment being violated while you are pushing to violate the first amendment. God has no place in school.
Are you mad over not having kids being forced to pray?
Prayer should be allowed in school, and anywhere in public for that matter, but not enforced. You have that right as an American. Duh! It’s unconstitutional to deny people their religious freedoms by law. My 2 cents for the day.
Too bad they're already trying to enforce wierd lgbtabc on students, acting all holier than thou.
You have religious freedom in the US. Government buildings are the only places where constitutional rights can be limited. That is not a new concept, and it has always been like that.
Your two cents is correct, thank you for posting it.
Are you ok with LGTBQ ima schools then?
@@adonisblox9198 Stay on topic. That has absolutely nothing to do with my post. smh….
"If God does not exist, then everything is permissible." -- Fyodor Dostoyevsky
That's the reason these supposed "leaders' in the United States and other countries want God out of the schools, out of your life, out of my life and, most of all, out of their own lives. That way they can do their evil deeds without a conscience.
Yep! Plus immorality leads to make them money.
May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.
Romans 15:13
@@patrickphilip777 If religion is moral and non religion immoral as you suggest, why are the biggest religioses groups also the richest? This shouldn't be the case if immorality leads to making money.
Religion squeeses money out of people since money exist with there products "Hope" and "Forgivness".
They want fairness, because some people are not christians or religious at all. Why should they pray christian prayers, if they believe in something else or lack in believe?
@@Almafan Now, people need to learn what's good and bad. The world is turning bad.
Biggest mistake America ever made
This combined with LBJ's Great Society all within 2 years of each other are easily the biggest mistakes of this country in the past 70 years.
Damn right, prayer should be an individual activity, or if there is a congregation it should be a choice, no one should be forced against their will to adhere to any religion or lack there of.
As a Christian conservative, I totally agree.
If you don’t want to pray don’t join in it
I don’t look at how America is with out it
@@johnpaulabocad6941 don't have state employees leading School prayer
@@johnpaulabocad6941 so you'd be okay if we rotated the prayer every day. 1 day is a Jew prayer, next a Muslim prayer, next a Christian prayer.... after all your kid wouldn't have to stand up...
Ass hat
NOT to rile any believers - BUT - When the TEN Commandments left U.S. Schools the CURVE OF MORALITY & CRIME BECAME OUR NEIGHBOR .....
So you are saying that it is up to schools to teach morality.....not parents at home? But when those same schools want to teach safe sex education, birth control etc......many of these same parents say that those should be up to the parents, not the school....it's very simple....conservative parents want their kids to be taught things they agree with........and be quiet to their kids about things they disagree with......nothing wrong with prayer, it just shouldn't be forced......especially one type of prayer....Christian prayer on all students....you can't favor one religion over others.
@@kninezbanks Just stating facts.....!
That’s because these mfs did it on purpose
@ johnnie smith: If I could jump up and down in support of your comment, I would do so. You are absolutely right. Taking down the Ten Commandments was the Beginning of the End.
You morons REALLY don't know the 10 Commandments is a man made movie. Right? There exists no list of 10 in scripture. Basically a graven image, worshipers of dogma if it's displayed anywhere. You imbeciles are the exact hate that hung Jesus in the story. Pathetic
"...at home. " that last part was like a chilling threat.
Father forgive them for they do not know what they are doing
Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it. How many decades ago did they gain control over our political parties? The early 60's were turning points, especially in 1963.
1st-Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Correct which is why teacher lead prayer was banned.
@@TheHillbillyHeretic814 "Establishment" of religion, not "practice".
@@gregjames9875 right. And what does establishing a religion mean?
What is it when a government entity says "hey now, children we are going to recite morning prayer to jesus."? In a facility those children are compelled by law to attend?
Would you be making the argument if say pastafarianism was what the prayer was centered around?
What about Islam? Satanism? The teachers choice?
@@gregjames9875 the law specifically banned teacher lead prayer. Individuals can choose to pray whenever they like provided they are not causing a disturbance.
The kids are also free to form bible clubs or other religious clubs. This right has been upheld repeatedly in court.
@@TheHillbillyHeretic814 The Founding Fathers did not want there to be a Church of America. They were trying to get away from The Church of England.
Jefferson's letter to the Danbury baptist association was about letting all christian denominations in America, Jefferson said the state cannot establish one christian denomination but they are to allow all denominations that's why the context of the letter matters the court took the letter out of context, and I can't say it enough context!! Context!! Context!! Matters
When Jesus was taken out ,by demonic people, than the devil moved in. Now what is our children being taught?
Yuppp, Kicked God out and Moved the Devil In . Sad
What demonic things are being taught in school?
I’m a 9th grader and I see no demonic things in school
@@HogExeNadoUser Thats because you don't recognize them, the world has been so corrupted that you really would not recognize lack of Christian Values. For example, do you have prayer to start each day. Are you being taught the WOKE values.
@@lavochat15 I know, I was trying to bait out an answer like that
How else can you carry out the great commission? The Bible says we are to pray at all times... this has always been over reach of power in my opinion. Freedom of speech except for when it goes against government. Well, we must obey God above all else, even when it goes against the rulers that deny God. Government is given for our benefit and safety from God, but the LORD is the Supreme Authority
Not the right stance or position for JFK to uphold regarding the banning of school prayer by the Supreme Court in 1963. His statement here during this press conference was an affront to the majority of Catholics, as well as Protestants who supported and voted for him. He should have offered an alternative for public school students to meet in a private room, or be allowed to pray, at least silently outside the classroom. Private, silent forms of prayer were eventually allowed in public schools, to accommodate students of other beliefs and faiths. President Kennedy might have endorsed this right, but I don't believe he ever articulated it and endorsed the idea while in office, and as the first Catholic President. That said, he was one of our greatest presidents and moved our country into world leadership in space exploration and technology. Our nation was secure and prosperous, despite the Cuban Missile Crisis, a very tenuous and worrisome period. His leadership and resolve diffused it and kept America from nuclear war due to his superb leadership.
It is interesting to note that this was in 1962. He was assassinated in the following year, 1963.
President Harris must mandate the end of school prayer done in silence if it offends one teacher or student.
Prayer at schools if allowed should be allowed for any religion NOT just Christianity. America was founded not even on Christianity, the founding fathers were Deist, that God came down manufactured the whole universe and then left it to us to be caretakers, and that thereby God is in each and every one of us. But, in Islam God never left, he has been nd always is there.
pray ourselves ❤❤❤
It was a good decision to take prayers out of school. The separation of church is important and upheld as in the constitution.
Nah, I notice that serial killings and drug use and f0rnicati0n went up after they banned prayer and bibles in schools. If anything, society without Jesus, is trashy. Look at how people are acting now, they have no grip on reality. They think they're snails that can switch genders.
So is Islam, Satanism, witchcraft and the like. Leave them out of govt, media and keep it at home! Right????
Separation of church and state, is to pertect the church from the state, not the state from the church.
@@chuckwalch8025 The important issue is that the church stays out of politics.
So remove Prayer and Pledge of Allegiance and add LGBT education??? 😂 good luck people 🏴☠️
Yuppp! Prayer was banned and now we have LGBT Garbage
I say this as a 9th grader
No lgbt education is being taught
The beginning of the end... the devil was gleeful when they banned prayer.
We should be able to prayer where the heaven we want.
Yeah, fine. Just as long as it dont interefere with school work or your job then no one else cares.
Strongly disagree
At home is where prayer belongs.
I honestly completely disagree. As a Catholic Christian and a Knight of Columbus, I think the student should be allowed to pray in a public school. Regardless of what the school administration says. As for me, I went to public schools in my past life and I wasn’t allowed to pray in public schools and wasn’t allowed to express my religious beliefs and views. As for what President Kennedy did, I think he made a big mistake.
@@alanbourbeau24 you can pray all you want. But just as one can't forbid you from praying, they cant force, coerce, or pressure you to do it either. Having any authority figure in a school lead a prayer has that effect.
prayer belongs wherever the believer happens to be at the time of prayer
In public and at home and at church is where prayer belongs. Deal with it. ;)
@@nick_phi11ips and that shouldn’t be at a public school
Really poor choice to ban public school prayers.
And why is that?
dear president kennedy,
this ban would’ve been unconstitutional. just read the 1st amendment-prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
It only banned prayer organized as a group. A school is not a freaking church. No one in their right mind would ban someone privately praying. That’s literally thought crime lmao
Pray in private. Or shut up
Crime is in schools today
U communist deny culture and tradition ur reason for decay and u will be eliminated
@@yeelanma9165 🤡🤡🤡
This was my old perception. Pray whenever.. but a friendly suggestion is to pray woth the heart. Thats all.
Peace Love and Light
@@privateprivate1865 another case overturned. So in the words of Nelson muntz. HAHA lol
@@PunkShockRock Nothing was overturned, it simply said that individuals groups can still pray in school......but it's not school administration routine enforced on everybody, like it was in the past.
If only Jesus spoke on the subject of prayer in public.
Verybad for our children and nation and Roe v Wade closely followed, then decades later gay marriage, all against the word of God - no, i will not support the supreme court in any of this‼️ psalm 33:12
That was weak
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