Pascal was the #2 behind Kawhi on our championship run, and admittedly had a tough time being pushed into our #1 once Kawhi left. He's matured so much since then, on and off the court, and is ready to be the go to #1 guy. I hope he gets that chance with the Pacers. I love your team first approach and how often your whole team scores in double digits, but sometimes you just need one guy to take over. Pascal is that guy, and Mathurin seems to be on his way too. Hope you guys figure out how best to play this team.
It's pretty bad when our 2 way player is showing more effort and is playing better ball than our star, It's unacceptable. I wish Rick would get on him about this. I really wouldn't mind if he got benched for a little bit. And I would honestly love to see Nembhard take his role when he comes back. Maybe that would be a wake up call. No one is untouchable in this league. And I hate to see this for Ty, because he is my favorite player, but he does need a reality check.
5 Team Trade: Jared McCain and Adem Bona to Pacers for 1st round pick and cash (Pacers release James Wiseman and Andrew Nembhard) Walker Kessler to Philly for (2) 1st round picks and cash Philly sign Dwight Howard and Lonnie Walker, IV Kyle Kuzma, Jonas Valanciunas and Johnny Davis to Utah Jazz (Kyle Kuzma went to college in Utah) 1st round pick, John Collins and Jordan Clarkson to Wizards Wizards sign Tristan Vukčević Dorian Finney-Smith and Jalen Wilson to Dallas Mavericks Spencer Dinwiddie and Markieff Morris to NJ Nets
Time to start Quinton Jackson lol. Dude's first step is a guaranteed bucket. Even set a solid screen for a Mathurin 3. Team player, never gives up no matter what. Always attacking the basket too. 👏
Your two bigs can't average 6 rebs. It takes Mathurin making 30 points and 12 rebs to get a win right now.. ridiculous. Give me anyone with length and hustle.
Without good 3 point shooters and rebounding Haliburton will suffer.Teams are smothering Haliburton by closing the paint because they know he is a non contact player.
5 Team Trade: Jared McCain and Adem Bona to Pacers for 1st round pick and cash (Pacers release James Wiseman and Andrew Nembhard) Walker Kessler to Philly for (2) 1st round picks and cash Philly sign Dwight Howard and Lonnie Walker, IV Kyle Kuzma, Jonas Valanciunas and Johnny Davis to Utah Jazz (Kyle Kuzma went to college in Utah) 1st round pick, John Collins and Jordan Clarkson to Wizards Wizards sign Tristan Vukčević Dorian Finney-Smith and Jalen Wilson to Dallas Mavericks Spencer Dinwiddie and Markieff Morris to NJ Nets
I truly believe Tyrese is throwing games I seen him loose the ball last year against Boston twice last year just looked weird he seems to be doing some of the same things this year just weird i don’t understand could have drives to the lane and just dribbles east and west what is really going on smh
Mentally there could be something going on. Perhaps this is not being considered enough by those around him. Remember folks, what happened to Ben Simmons. Has he ever truly bounced back to his former self. I think it was both mentally and physically for Simmons. I will bet it is the same for Haliburton. Only time will tell folks.
If your team is losing because of poor performance from one guy, its not fair to the team. Sit Haliburton like the Colts sat Richardson. It may be the best for the team moving forward and for him.
We need rebounds and our next Bruce Brown. Someone that can slow down the quick guards and play SF too if need be. Point of attack defender. Someone to impose their will on teams and make them feel that defensive impact. You lose anyone like that and not replace it.. With losing one of the most consistent shooters in the league and a Jalen Smith.. That hurts. Didn't exactly handle our drafts and FA the best either over the years.
I'm almost checked out on Walker too. Gradey Dick would have been a damn near perfect fit for this team and he was drafted after Walker. Walker has non chalant careless turnovers every game and those 3s are great when they go in but when they miss they always seem like a bad shot. This team is unwatchable with Tyrese on the court. He's turned into last year's Buddy hield right before our eyes. Carlisle seems oblivious to what SHOULD happen to him. Hope coddling Haliburton was worth your job Carlisle because the rest of the players respond to him. Tyrese seems uncoachable. He looks non chalant lazy almost like he was wining and dining some pretty girl all night. Actions speaks louder then words but im seeing Oladipo all over again. Tyrese wants to be in a bigger market surrounded by big names. I 100 percent guarantee you
Why did they hire Jim Carrey as the coach ??? What did you expect ??? You shouldn't have Signed Siakam he's good but not good enough to give a big contract to !!
I hate to say it but we got some significant injuries. Our stars arent hurt but having 5-6 guys out a night matters. Its still early in the season to start saying bench this player and trade that player. I think its our turn to whine about injuries like the Knicks and Bucks did in the playoffs. I do think we could play better even with the injuries tho cause we look like crap
Tyrese had a hot streak we got excited he is to passive to be a Super again Super max Player… yea there are injuries…. We were special because Ty was special… he is not that guy
He needs to stop driving down the lane just to pass the ball put when clearly you can lay it up. He doesn't even look to score in the paint. His handles are to basic. He has no bag with the dribbling. Can't shake any defenders smh
Bullshit they afto run the offense though pascal, the second half no one pass him the ball, they can gard him and that clown of the coach dont know how to used pascal
@ Tyrese is a good player and he can really light it up. The problem is, he’s to inconsistent and his offensive game is limited. Brunson has a bigger bag. If I were a Pacers fan I would be very concerned because Tyrese is not consistent and he doesn’t seem to have that passion you want from your superstar. At one point I thought Sac gave up the wrong guy and he was better than Fox but Fox is miles away better
Brunson and Ty are different point guards, Brunson is a beast scorer, Ty can be on occasion or can get streaky. Ty is more of a floor general, Brunson can do it also but Ty is better at that. I hate to say it but injuries are hurting us
No they just needa do what’s best for the team and trade tyrese haliburton I’ve seen enough dude is garbage nobody’s got time to wait for a dude to get better he used the pacers for money it’s that simple and it already feels like the dude ain’t even on the court playing bc he barely does anything to try and help the team win anyways 😂😂😂😂
I doubt Haliburton goes, but maybe it's time to see what's available for Nembhard and Walker. Quinton Jackson is a good enough 2nd or 3rd. We need a wing and a big. If not a trade right now. Because idk who they'd even target at this point.. But I will say this. I do think we should continue looking at length, athleticism and huslte within the G-League. Or small trades. Darius Baizley isn't a shooter, but will play D, run and rebound. He's streaky. Or maybe it'd be better to add a big guard forward like Javonte Smart. Dude can hit step back 3's, attacks, looks to rebound and plays good defense. Tosan Evbuomwan 6'8, can do a little of everything, shoot and drive. Defensive upside. Not explosive, but it's length with hustle and he hustles. I honestly thought Jordan Goodwin was a Free Agent and I like him as a point of attack defender. Not the best shooter, but does other things well. He's on a 2 way with Memphis. I'd like him and Jaylen Wells their SF. Moses Brown should help, simply because of his size and ability to run the floor. Anyone that will offer length, hustle, effort, driving the ball and playing with a tenacity.. Look for those player's.. Go get em, cut Newton and Freeman. Try some other guy's.. Do something.. and play who's performing well.. simple as that. I'd try anything and everything. We are short handed and already had an awkward lineup with holes.. No real Wing and no one who rebounds the ball.. We get the right mix to hustle and shooters. Let Hali take a couple weeks off. Idc, take a vaca, heal. Woosah. Something. But let's keep trying other thing's. Can we maybe swing a couple 2nds and something to add a player we could use??
At this point we stay pushing the random offense no plays identity but it’s not working…could be because Haliburton isn’t stepping up but another possible part is other teams might’ve figured out how to stop it…it might be time to change our identity to fit around Siakam and Mathurin (if he can stay more consistent),etc with Carlisle taking control of the offense, running plays and etc schemes
Stopping a random offense that even Boston had no answer for in the playoffs is not easy. This is simply due to Halliburton's slump and inability to run in transition and slow pace.
@ with the Haliburton at his best being basically the core to that random offense and pace as the PG its definitely deadly and sort of got that sneak peak of how the offense can potentially thrive at its best vs Celtics…however if he’s unable to step up consistently and do what’s needed, it might be time to adjust if too many games slip away
@@ThaCarter317 I think Halliburton is one of the few players who creates the best offense. I think waiting for Halliburton to recover will get us closer to the championship. By the way, up until a few games ago, the data showed that the Pacers half court offense was 2nd in the league. Halliburton is in a slump and without nemhard!" . This is remarkable. Let's wait and trust that Halliburton will recover. When Nembhard returns, Halliburton should take a month or so off to heal his mid-back and mental health.
Pfff, still way too early to call that. Bucks and Knicks whine about injuries in the playoffs, so I thinknits our turn. I hate to use the injury schtick but we are missing 5-6 guys a night, it matters
Tyrese just likes to show out against my Knicks. Well the Knicks and the Celtics that is. We will see how well he does next time he sees the Knicks, after they have built chemistry
Tyrese had a hot streak we got excited he is to passive to be a Super again Super max Player… yea there are injuries…. We were special because Ty was special… he is not that guy
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Pascal was the #2 behind Kawhi on our championship run, and admittedly had a tough time being pushed into our #1 once Kawhi left. He's matured so much since then, on and off the court, and is ready to be the go to #1 guy. I hope he gets that chance with the Pacers. I love your team first approach and how often your whole team scores in double digits, but sometimes you just need one guy to take over. Pascal is that guy, and Mathurin seems to be on his way too. Hope you guys figure out how best to play this team.
@@goodhurtproductions start tj and math and pascal are 1-2 in offense. bring hali off bench against 2nd team
It's pretty bad when our 2 way player is showing more effort and is playing better ball than our star, It's unacceptable. I wish Rick would get on him about this. I really wouldn't mind if he got benched for a little bit. And I would honestly love to see Nembhard take his role when he comes back. Maybe that would be a wake up call. No one is untouchable in this league. And I hate to see this for Ty, because he is my favorite player, but he does need a reality check.
Appreciate the passion guys.
They usually begin the show with Tyrese introduction. Still did, just a different message.
Keeps passing the ball when he has a chance to layup!
Or misses the Layups...
Because he thinks all he has to do is pass the ball.
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Right!!! Like what the heck are you doing!! Stop being scared to get in the paint smh
5 Team Trade:
Jared McCain and Adem Bona to Pacers for 1st round pick and cash (Pacers release James Wiseman and Andrew Nembhard)
Walker Kessler to Philly for (2) 1st round picks and cash
Philly sign Dwight Howard and Lonnie Walker, IV
Kyle Kuzma, Jonas Valanciunas and Johnny Davis to Utah Jazz (Kyle Kuzma went to college in Utah)
1st round pick, John Collins and Jordan Clarkson to Wizards
Wizards sign Tristan Vukčević
Dorian Finney-Smith and Jalen Wilson to Dallas Mavericks
Spencer Dinwiddie and Markieff Morris to NJ Nets
@@deborahstewart1934 release Wiseman and Nembhard...pfff no way
I love honesty
Time to start Quinton Jackson lol. Dude's first step is a guaranteed bucket. Even set a solid screen for a Mathurin 3. Team player, never gives up no matter what. Always attacking the basket too. 👏
Haliburton needs to learn how to get to the rim. He has no real handles either smh
Bench Haliburton and have him rest. I feel bad for the team, they're playing the best that they can but myles and hali are stinking it up
Your two bigs can't average 6 rebs. It takes Mathurin making 30 points and 12 rebs to get a win right now.. ridiculous. Give me anyone with length and hustle.
Clown Ben is shit , they afto pass the ball to pascal he is the best player on the team they can't guard him
Without good 3 point shooters and rebounding Haliburton will suffer.Teams are smothering Haliburton by closing the paint because they know he is a non contact player.
We ruijed hibberts career early by not benching him. It helps both sides
Great show. Bad things must be buried, earnestly.
Its like theyre filming a new space jam and the monstars stole his talent.
I've followed the Pacers since the ABA. I have never seen a player nosedive like Tyrese. To think of the bag he got it's insane.
In my opinion it is still Burton for certain, it is either pain or personal issues that are hindering his performance
Or as I just stated BOTH! I am convinced now that it is BOTH, and being hidden.
At this point the Pacers are worse than the year they had to fill the team with some players picked up out of factories.
5 Team Trade:
Jared McCain and Adem Bona to Pacers for 1st round pick and cash (Pacers release James Wiseman and Andrew Nembhard)
Walker Kessler to Philly for (2) 1st round picks and cash
Philly sign Dwight Howard and Lonnie Walker, IV
Kyle Kuzma, Jonas Valanciunas and Johnny Davis to Utah Jazz (Kyle Kuzma went to college in Utah)
1st round pick, John Collins and Jordan Clarkson to Wizards
Wizards sign Tristan Vukčević
Dorian Finney-Smith and Jalen Wilson to Dallas Mavericks
Spencer Dinwiddie and Markieff Morris to NJ Nets
Thank you... everyone just makes excuses for him all the time.. he is playing SO bad. It's embarrassing....
I’m gonna say it again! Tyrese Haliburton has turned into a Bust! He needs to be benched!
He's definitely busted
Do u guys think we could see a Edmond Sumner type situation with Quenton Jackson in terms of earning a future rotation spot?
Nobody cares at the moment
@ looking at the effort he putting in compared to others they should
Ya never know, he has really maximized his opportunities so far this season. Anything is possible
I truly believe Tyrese is throwing games I seen him loose the ball last year against Boston twice last year just looked weird he seems to be doing some of the same things this year just weird i don’t understand could have drives to the lane and just dribbles east and west what is really going on smh
I’m sorry but Haliburton is absolutely terrible and shouldn’t see the court
Mentally there could be something going on. Perhaps this is not being considered enough by those around him. Remember folks, what happened to Ben Simmons. Has he ever truly bounced back to his former self. I think it was both mentally and physically for Simmons. I will bet it is the same for Haliburton. Only time will tell folks.
Why don't they pass the ball to Pascal especially when Tyrese is in the game.
Thank you, they don't want him to out shine Haliburton
@@mugarbelennon1578I think your right!Kind of like kicking Lance to the curb for Paul George.
If your team is losing because of poor performance from one guy, its not fair to the team. Sit Haliburton like the Colts sat Richardson. It may be the best for the team moving forward and for him.
I just really want post game reporters to start asking tough questions
What would you like asked?
It seems basketball has become a job he hates since he got paid. Almost like someone that is experiencing career burnout.
nba life and women
He got paid
We need rebounds and our next Bruce Brown. Someone that can slow down the quick guards and play SF too if need be. Point of attack defender. Someone to impose their will on teams and make them feel that defensive impact. You lose anyone like that and not replace it.. With losing one of the most consistent shooters in the league and a Jalen Smith.. That hurts. Didn't exactly handle our drafts and FA the best either over the years.
Stop worrying about being mean… Yall generation doesn’t understand the Truth Does not care how anyone feels
If only Haliburton could be LaMelo Ball this year. That would solve all our problems. 😅 I heard Giannis is needs a new home. 🙏
Doesn’t even look like another guy. He’s visibly bad.
If he can't shoot a step back 3 then he isn't doing ANYTHING
I'm almost checked out on Walker too. Gradey Dick would have been a damn near perfect fit for this team and he was drafted after Walker.
Walker has non chalant careless turnovers every game and those 3s are great when they go in but when they miss they always seem like a bad shot.
This team is unwatchable with Tyrese on the court. He's turned into last year's Buddy hield right before our eyes.
Carlisle seems oblivious to what SHOULD happen to him. Hope coddling Haliburton was worth your job Carlisle because the rest of the players respond to him.
Tyrese seems uncoachable. He looks non chalant lazy almost like he was wining and dining some pretty girl all night.
Actions speaks louder then words but im seeing Oladipo all over again. Tyrese wants to be in a bigger market surrounded by big names. I 100 percent guarantee you
Not with this coach
Why did they hire Jim Carrey as the coach ??? What did you expect ??? You shouldn't have Signed Siakam he's good but not good enough to give a big contract to !!
I hate to say it but we got some significant injuries. Our stars arent hurt but having 5-6 guys out a night matters. Its still early in the season to start saying bench this player and trade that player. I think its our turn to whine about injuries like the Knicks and Bucks did in the playoffs. I do think we could play better even with the injuries tho cause we look like crap
Pacers have the worst last names in the league 😂😂😂
he’s starting off games badly. hard to be happy when you start 0-4 every game. give him a break. he’ll get it together. slumps happen to everyone.
No one is considering it but... what if that back pain turned into an oxy problem?? Stretch? maybe....
Tyrese had a hot streak we got excited he is to passive to be a Super again Super max Player… yea there are injuries…. We were special because Ty was special… he is not that guy
He needs to stop driving down the lane just to pass the ball put when clearly you can lay it up. He doesn't even look to score in the paint. His handles are to basic. He has no bag with the dribbling. Can't shake any defenders smh
mid white girls pill poppin got my guy
Bullshit they afto run the offense though pascal, the second half no one pass him the ball, they can gard him and that clown of the coach dont know how to used pascal
Y’all still think Tyrese better than Brunson ?
No he was better for a time and could be better again but right now not even close.
@ Tyrese is a good player and he can really light it up. The problem is, he’s to inconsistent and his offensive game is limited. Brunson has a bigger bag. If I were a Pacers fan I would be very concerned because Tyrese is not consistent and he doesn’t seem to have that passion you want from your superstar. At one point I thought Sac gave up the wrong guy and he was better than Fox but Fox is miles away better
A little YES if before the injury.
Hell NO if after injury
Brunson and Ty are different point guards, Brunson is a beast scorer, Ty can be on occasion or can get streaky. Ty is more of a floor general, Brunson can do it also but Ty is better at that. I hate to say it but injuries are hurting us
He is to passive mentally… he is a soft suburban kid who never played street ball
Quinton Jackson > Hali
No they just needa do what’s best for the team and trade tyrese haliburton I’ve seen enough dude is garbage nobody’s got time to wait for a dude to get better he used the pacers for money it’s that simple and it already feels like the dude ain’t even on the court playing bc he barely does anything to try and help the team win anyways 😂😂😂😂
I doubt Haliburton goes, but maybe it's time to see what's available for Nembhard and Walker. Quinton Jackson is a good enough 2nd or 3rd. We need a wing and a big. If not a trade right now. Because idk who they'd even target at this point.. But I will say this. I do think we should continue looking at length, athleticism and huslte within the G-League. Or small trades. Darius Baizley isn't a shooter, but will play D, run and rebound. He's streaky. Or maybe it'd be better to add a big guard forward like Javonte Smart. Dude can hit step back 3's, attacks, looks to rebound and plays good defense. Tosan Evbuomwan 6'8, can do a little of everything, shoot and drive. Defensive upside. Not explosive, but it's length with hustle and he hustles. I honestly thought Jordan Goodwin was a Free Agent and I like him as a point of attack defender. Not the best shooter, but does other things well. He's on a 2 way with Memphis. I'd like him and Jaylen Wells their SF. Moses Brown should help, simply because of his size and ability to run the floor. Anyone that will offer length, hustle, effort, driving the ball and playing with a tenacity.. Look for those player's.. Go get em, cut Newton and Freeman. Try some other guy's.. Do something.. and play who's performing well.. simple as that. I'd try anything and everything. We are short handed and already had an awkward lineup with holes.. No real Wing and no one who rebounds the ball.. We get the right mix to hustle and shooters. Let Hali take a couple weeks off. Idc, take a vaca, heal. Woosah. Something. But let's keep trying other thing's. Can we maybe swing a couple 2nds and something to add a player we could use??
At this point we stay pushing the random offense no plays identity but it’s not working…could be because Haliburton isn’t stepping up but another possible part is other teams might’ve figured out how to stop it…it might be time to change our identity to fit around Siakam and Mathurin (if he can stay more consistent),etc with Carlisle taking control of the offense, running plays and etc schemes
Stopping a random offense that even Boston had no answer for in the playoffs is not easy.
This is simply due to Halliburton's slump and inability to run in transition and slow pace.
@ with the Haliburton at his best being basically the core to that random offense and pace as the PG its definitely deadly and sort of got that sneak peak of how the offense can potentially thrive at its best vs Celtics…however if he’s unable to step up consistently and do what’s needed, it might be time to adjust if too many games slip away
@@ThaCarter317 I think Halliburton is one of the few players who creates the best offense.
I think waiting for Halliburton to recover will get us closer to the championship.
By the way, up until a few games ago, the data showed that the Pacers half court offense was 2nd in the league.
Halliburton is in a slump and without nemhard!" . This is remarkable.
Let's wait and trust that Halliburton will recover.
When Nembhard returns, Halliburton should take a month or so off to heal his mid-back and mental health.
First view. Go pacers. Let’s turn this around.
They won’t make the playoffs this year for sure!
Pfff, still way too early to call that. Bucks and Knicks whine about injuries in the playoffs, so I thinknits our turn. I hate to use the injury schtick but we are missing 5-6 guys a night, it matters
Tyrese just likes to show out against my Knicks. Well the Knicks and the Celtics that is. We will see how well he does next time he sees the Knicks, after they have built chemistry
We'll woop your Knicks and Celtics again and again and again
Tyrese had a hot streak we got excited he is to passive to be a Super again Super max Player… yea there are injuries…. We were special because Ty was special… he is not that guy