if you want to hold objective as light this is definitely how you do it, but i feel like participating in team fights outside of the cashout is still very important as light is great at being able to kill one and leave
Yeah it's a shame they didn't get into a fight but I did briefly say that I'd be ready to "flank" it's just that the overall context was that there was a previous fight so I had a strong idea that they would be fine, because I was thinking another team would actually go towards the cashout but we were faster. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching! And if that’s your style that’s fine too, I’m not saying every solo HAS to play like this, it’s just a method I use and a theory craft for others
Good tip on going to a cashout location and waiting for another to try and deposit. U can set up mines and other booby trap stuff and just ambush ppl when they're least expecting it
A bit of feedback on the video, I think you could have summarised the strategy a bit better with a flowchart or at least some text; describe a few options depending on the situation. The live commentary is great for showcasing what you mean, but its not great for actually communicating the main idea. I really like your edited little above view diagrams describing positioning to come in as a third or fourth party etc, and i think this strategy could be well described in that way too with a bit more text/diagrams/flowcharts. Hope that makes sense. That being said, thanks for the video.
Hey! This is awesome feedback thank you so much, I did actually make a video covering this entirely ( ruclips.net/video/EXosG33HDZI/видео.htmlfeature=shared ) and at the start I referenced the original video that covered it - however a flow chart is cool and I’ll add that for the others!) Awesome people like you are those that help push me making better content so I appreciate you watching and you’ll see the improvements to the content! :D
Yeah I should have used glitch there too that’s a great point but I just think getting it to detonate exactly there would have been hard, I just thought I’d be protected from the blast from the debris but I guess not haha. Thanks Bergh for helping out in the comments too
Had a match where 2 times we cashed out on the floating train and while my heavy/medium were direct defending I was playing park core Sim going for picks as they approached while chasing the train
Another great and informative video, absolutely love your way of thinking in this game. People dont unserstand that just because the game is chaotic doesnt mean you need to play chaotic. Calm cool and collected and knowing when you should push is the key to winning. Id kill for a team mate that understands the game as we do.
Thank you! Exactly this, if you see the strategy without understanding it, people think that I’m not “helping” the team, sure maybe not directly in fights AS MUCH, but the return is that I’m making sure we qualify/get objectives as much as possible, thus increasing our odds of qualifying. Appreciate the kind words!! Happy holidays!
@@THiiXY Exactly buddy! it's hard for people to understand because they treat it like a cod game, playing for kills staying on the point and causing as much carnage as possible. That's unfortunately not the way to win the game, if you're playing to win you have to carefully plan and think out ways to re take or hold down the objective without sitting directly on top of it for everyone to spam you with utils Happy holidays to you too!
I keep telling my friends you don't need kills to win, but they keep falling back to caveman instincts, haha. Love these videos. Can't wait to see the one for mediums.
This vid defo earned a sub, tried out this strat in my own solo q games, while it definitely wasnt as smooth as ur games i defo felt better solo q ing, overall W! Love this content
Thank you so much!! It may take some time to refine this strategy, because it’s a balance for sure but I’ll explain further as more time goes. What things did you struggle with when following VAP? Just so I know! Appreciate it!
I try to play all my fps games with some strategy I mean I loved siege for 3 years (then not so much) but every now and then I get a little monkey brain and chase kills, lose sight of the objective etc. This game though is a wet dream for objective based players and I’m one of them😂
Hahaha, yeah Siege has been that kind of chess-like strategy game especially in the early years but THE FINALS really pulls you away from that with all the fast-pace high intesity going on lol
9:00 you can have 2 breach charges on the ground at the same time so i like to place my first one on the top then jump down and as soon as i get the cd i put one below this will make it so the floor drops AND the enemies get damaged
Hopefully lights watch this. was playing with my friend n the randoms would always choose light then get destroyed without helping at all, totally made the game fun
Yeah it's kind of frustrating, that's why this way allows you both sides of the coin, if the team is solid, stick with them and continue helping, if the team just goes in and get's coined, don't sacrafice a random fight in a 1v3 etc, just go objective if they have coins so they can respawn in and everyone is good to go. Thanks for watching!
Awesome content man, id love if you paused the video and maybe talked as a narrator about why you made a certain choice to better emphasize the VAP method (in case the action is too hectic since it can be hard to play and explain at the same time) ❤ keep doing what youre doing my guy you got a new subscriber
Sweet, perfect thank you so much for the feedback, I’ll also do some pauses in there too and explain stuff better, makes sense because a lot of my “actions” are from my experiences so sharing it will help. Thanks for the sub, comments like this motivate me to keep pushing out more!
Its insane how different you have to play it in Cash Out and Bank It. I feel like light is at a disadvantage in cash out because it has zero defenses besides cloaking. You kinda have to play this way in Cash Out because if you're running around fighting you might kill a few sure but you'll step on a mine or get hit with an RPG or some other one shot. This game isn't about kills, its about killing at the right time!
Killing at the right time is so true. Sure u might only get like 10 kills but if those kills were on people getting the cash out or a heavy you helped so much
@@THiiXY i really understand man xD i use to tryhard on music industry so yeah, i feel you. im apparently played the game for 100 hours but still as a light main it feels overwhelming. so i would really appreciate any tips on positioning on it! i hope the best for your channel man, keep grinding!
honestly im a little too scared to play tournament / ranked. I'm getting my lunch taken in quickplay trying to pop players as light class. Still working on strategic plays to counter that
Yeah I get it, I think you could also try some unranked for a little bit as well to get used to the "mode" yeah some people don't take it as seriously and it's mainly a fun casual mode, but you still get to learn the experience from playing, thanks for watching and hope you face ranked soon!
Fantastic video, very well said for this style of play for light. Although I do think you should have engaged with your team a bit more its understandable due to you solo q’ing and wanting to play for the win. I try to mix this style of play with being a tad bit more aggressive to help out in team fights more. Biggest thing is talking to your team but unfortunately not everyone uses a mic which is an L when you want to win
Thanks for the comment and also watching the video! In the original video, I mentioned that for the first cashout, we are active and with the players (so we can understand if they know what they're doing or not) if they are collaborative, sure we can play the game as "normal" but if they run in and get coined (eliminated) then this strategy is a "backup" for that, because it puts the shift on the team-mates to follow you to "cashout". Hopefully that makes sense, I'll add more context in future videos :)
@@THiiXY I agree completely, if your team is just wasting lives pushing things they shouldn’t then it’s better to play conservative and smart like this. Brilliant response. Thank you for making good content for this game
Yeah so basically you gain more elo as you “qualify” so you don’t technically need to win an entire tournament, sure you miss out on the “maximum elo” but you still gain which is why this strat doesn’t need “home runs” hope that helped
@@THiiXY word. I solo Q so it’s guna be real hard for me to rank up lol I’m playing quick play to unlocked ranked and it’s real hard to win matches solo Qing
Haha, yeah you don’t have to take those types of fights, sure sometimes you’ll be pressured to but it’s the overall style of play which is where you can thrive, thanks for watching!
It does far too much beyond that. Should just get reworked into a silence tool. Doesn't fuck mobility or capturing. It's just not interesting for a low skilled weapon. CC in shooters is aids.
Its not crazy because your just focusing on playing the objective instead of just going for kills. My friends and I won hundreds of BF matches doing the boring thing of going to the empty bases to recapture instead of just going to where all the fighting was. We could flip entire matches doing this even when it felt like our entire team just couldn't stay alive. It is always about playing the objective and as light you have to play a certain way and that's all.
Ya I guess low risk is low risk and all but I think its a lot for fun as a light to be in more combat. This passive mindset is just boring and I want to actually play the game and not just chill and get no kills although I'm qualifying.
Awesome! That’s a great way to play, as I said you’re allowed to play however you want :) this is just for those that are struggling and offers an alternative, we all enjoy having fun
Haha I understand. I would say make a recording of your fights, then watch it back and think "was I took aggressive", "could I have used an ability", "was it my positioning or aim". Try that out for a bit and you'll get your improvement come ASAP. Remember to enjoy the game and the process too!
Haha, If you expel stun-gun on heavy stealing for example, the medium might go in to steal instead, so you can re-enter with shotgun to take them out quick. However in the original video I said weapon does not matter. Thanks for watching!
Yeah solo queue is for sure difficult and not optimal in a game like this, but many of us still do it in ranked for various reasons. Thanks for watching!
Yeah I was also against two heavies as well but I made some mistakes that I'm not afraid to show you guys, I'm about the realism of saying "hey, I play the game differently, BUT it doesn't mean I'm a god" thanks for watching. Let's also see what happens with the new update!
Would be awesome if you could spend time showing me your perspective as to why this isn't good! Before you do, feel free to watch the video before this that actually teaches this and explains why, no hate I'm just interested to hear the other side. Appreciate you watching either way!
Light being squishy doesn't mean it's incapable of contributing to the fights you can play a lot higher risk and still be useful. The amount of squad wipes that I get using the dagger is insane and it's all happening ducking in and out of cover and fights with cloak.
Yoo! Thanks for watching! Firstly, may I ask why I would have to win the entire tournament? Remember that I'm also solo queuing. We still gained 300ish elo and I actually went into the next match and did the same thing (600 elo in two runs). Just to mention that I'm showing realism, if I make a mistake in game, I'll show that so even my viewers can learn, better than "Cherry picking" a free win tournament with fake results. I'll be waiting for the reply, thanks!
@@THiiXY not only is it low effort to just record a strategy guide video in one take, it really doesnt help you bring your point across if you dont even win the actual game 😭😆
if you want to hold objective as light this is definitely how you do it, but i feel like participating in team fights outside of the cashout is still very important as light is great at being able to kill one and leave
Yeah it's a shame they didn't get into a fight but I did briefly say that I'd be ready to "flank" it's just that the overall context was that there was a previous fight so I had a strong idea that they would be fine, because I was thinking another team would actually go towards the cashout but we were faster. Thanks for watching!
Love the mind set/game plan. Need more content like this for the game. Really well done
Thanks! It’s a different way of playing for sure rather than just going in all the time for fights everywhere haha
thanks for this video! took notes and gonna apply into games :D
Ayy thank you for watching Mystic I really appreciate you :D
Very interesting to play the game with this mindset, I tend to focus on everyone else when the objective is far more important. Great tips, thanks.
Thanks for watching! And if that’s your style that’s fine too, I’m not saying every solo HAS to play like this, it’s just a method I use and a theory craft for others
Good tip on going to a cashout location and waiting for another to try and deposit. U can set up mines and other booby trap stuff and just ambush ppl when they're least expecting it
Yup exactly, if you watch the medium solo carry video I show exactly that! Thanks for watching! :)
Babe wake up! New THiiXY vid just dropped❤
AYYY!! Thanks qwaaq much love
A bit of feedback on the video, I think you could have summarised the strategy a bit better with a flowchart or at least some text; describe a few options depending on the situation. The live commentary is great for showcasing what you mean, but its not great for actually communicating the main idea.
I really like your edited little above view diagrams describing positioning to come in as a third or fourth party etc, and i think this strategy could be well described in that way too with a bit more text/diagrams/flowcharts. Hope that makes sense.
That being said, thanks for the video.
Hey! This is awesome feedback thank you so much, I did actually make a video covering this entirely ( ruclips.net/video/EXosG33HDZI/видео.htmlfeature=shared ) and at the start I referenced the original video that covered it - however a flow chart is cool and I’ll add that for the others!)
Awesome people like you are those that help push me making better content so I appreciate you watching and you’ll see the improvements to the content! :D
@13:01 would the glitch grenade have helped this situation? Does it reach high enough vertically?
Yes, it's able to reach much further vertically but you will need to time/lodge it.
Yeah I should have used glitch there too that’s a great point but I just think getting it to detonate exactly there would have been hard, I just thought I’d be protected from the blast from the debris but I guess not haha. Thanks Bergh for helping out in the comments too
Had a match where 2 times we cashed out on the floating train and while my heavy/medium were direct defending I was playing park core Sim going for picks as they approached while chasing the train
Yessir another VOD 🎉
Hell yea, I hope the live commentary helps! Thank you so much for watching! :D
these are the type of videos i wanna do too, you are amazing man!!!
Thank you so much for the kind words I appreciate it :)
@@THiiXY i feel like i am going to learn a lot from you, not just about the game but how to represent myself and coach others
Great video and tips.
Ayy I appreciate you!
Thank you for explaining this strat. My team thinks im just too scared when I play like this
If it’s solo play it doesn’t matter what others think, so your own thing to lead objectively and they’ll understand! Thanks for watching!
Another great and informative video, absolutely love your way of thinking in this game. People dont unserstand that just because the game is chaotic doesnt mean you need to play chaotic.
Calm cool and collected and knowing when you should push is the key to winning.
Id kill for a team mate that understands the game as we do.
Thank you! Exactly this, if you see the strategy without understanding it, people think that I’m not “helping” the team, sure maybe not directly in fights AS MUCH, but the return is that I’m making sure we qualify/get objectives as much as possible, thus increasing our odds of qualifying. Appreciate the kind words!! Happy holidays!
@@THiiXY Exactly buddy! it's hard for people to understand because they treat it like a cod game, playing for kills staying on the point and causing as much carnage as possible.
That's unfortunately not the way to win the game, if you're playing to win you have to carefully plan and think out ways to re take or hold down the objective without sitting directly on top of it for everyone to spam you with utils
Happy holidays to you too!
I keep telling my friends you don't need kills to win, but they keep falling back to caveman instincts, haha. Love these videos. Can't wait to see the one for mediums.
This vid defo earned a sub, tried out this strat in my own solo q games, while it definitely wasnt as smooth as ur games i defo felt better solo q ing, overall W! Love this content
Thank you so much!! It may take some time to refine this strategy, because it’s a balance for sure but I’ll explain further as more time goes. What things did you struggle with when following VAP? Just so I know! Appreciate it!
Mostly things outside my control like teammates or team comps. Three lights is defo not the way in ranked. The VAP worked just fine!
I try to play all my fps games with some strategy I mean I loved siege for 3 years (then not so much) but every now and then I get a little monkey brain and chase kills, lose sight of the objective etc.
This game though is a wet dream for objective based players and I’m one of them😂
Hahaha, yeah Siege has been that kind of chess-like strategy game especially in the early years but THE FINALS really pulls you away from that with all the fast-pace high intesity going on lol
In the finals you don't get 4 coins, you start with 2 in round one and get one extra each round. At least in unranked tournament
That’s just unranked this is literally a guide in ranked come on
@humanOctupus OK cool I didn't know if it was the same in ranked or not, thanks for the info
Wym you also get 2 in ranked
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@@humanOctupus don't you also get them in ranked?
9:00 you can have 2 breach charges on the ground at the same time so i like to place my first one on the top then jump down and as soon as i get the cd i put one below this will make it so the floor drops AND the enemies get damaged
Ohhh that's actually really cool I had no idea, thought it would be replaced, thanks for the tip!!
again a rly nice video. thx thiixy!
Thank you you’re awesome for coming back and commenting again! :D
Hopefully lights watch this. was playing with my friend n the randoms would always choose light then get destroyed without helping at all, totally made the game fun
Yeah it's kind of frustrating, that's why this way allows you both sides of the coin, if the team is solid, stick with them and continue helping, if the team just goes in and get's coined, don't sacrafice a random fight in a 1v3 etc, just go objective if they have coins so they can respawn in and everyone is good to go. Thanks for watching!
I subbed off this video thank you bro dope shit!
hell yea, new THiiXY vid
Thanks Ivy :D
can you do a guide on some game sense? when to rez, what to recognize in terms of pulling out of a fight or taking it
Yo good idea, I'll make sure to include it in the next videos coming soon!
Awesome content man, id love if you paused the video and maybe talked as a narrator about why you made a certain choice to better emphasize the VAP method (in case the action is too hectic since it can be hard to play and explain at the same time) ❤ keep doing what youre doing my guy you got a new subscriber
Sweet, perfect thank you so much for the feedback, I’ll also do some pauses in there too and explain stuff better, makes sense because a lot of my “actions” are from my experiences so sharing it will help. Thanks for the sub, comments like this motivate me to keep pushing out more!
Poison grenade or normal Grenada is a better pick then c4 because your heavy will have c4 and medium can have mines.
True but that’s relying on your team mates actually having them AND using them lol
Is this not the same exact video as the one you posted earlier?
Its insane how different you have to play it in Cash Out and Bank It. I feel like light is at a disadvantage in cash out because it has zero defenses besides cloaking. You kinda have to play this way in Cash Out because if you're running around fighting you might kill a few sure but you'll step on a mine or get hit with an RPG or some other one shot. This game isn't about kills, its about killing at the right time!
Killing at the right time is so true. Sure u might only get like 10 kills but if those kills were on people getting the cash out or a heavy you helped so much
very well made video, thank you!
Ayyy I’m glad you liked it! Thanks so much for watching and commenting it means more than you could understand :D
@@THiiXY i really understand man xD i use to tryhard on music industry so yeah, i feel you. im apparently played the game for 100 hours but still as a light main it feels overwhelming. so i would really appreciate any tips on positioning on it! i hope the best for your channel man, keep grinding!
Is it possible to play sniper with vanishing and evade? Every light video I've seen is about running invis.
Good vid very educational. I enjoyed alot.
Thank you for the kind words!
honestly im a little too scared to play tournament / ranked. I'm getting my lunch taken in quickplay trying to pop players as light class. Still working on strategic plays to counter that
Yeah I get it, I think you could also try some unranked for a little bit as well to get used to the "mode" yeah some people don't take it as seriously and it's mainly a fun casual mode, but you still get to learn the experience from playing, thanks for watching and hope you face ranked soon!
Fantastic video, very well said for this style of play for light. Although I do think you should have engaged with your team a bit more its understandable due to you solo q’ing and wanting to play for the win. I try to mix this style of play with being a tad bit more aggressive to help out in team fights more. Biggest thing is talking to your team but unfortunately not everyone uses a mic which is an L when you want to win
Thanks for the comment and also watching the video! In the original video, I mentioned that for the first cashout, we are active and with the players (so we can understand if they know what they're doing or not) if they are collaborative, sure we can play the game as "normal" but if they run in and get coined (eliminated) then this strategy is a "backup" for that, because it puts the shift on the team-mates to follow you to "cashout". Hopefully that makes sense, I'll add more context in future videos :)
@@THiiXY I agree completely, if your team is just wasting lives pushing things they shouldn’t then it’s better to play conservative and smart like this. Brilliant response. Thank you for making good content for this game
dont tell the kids kills don't matter. let them keep messing up so i can keep rolling them for exp
LOL listen we gotta help them out a bit hahaha, thanks for watching!
How is the ranking system? Can you still rank up without winning the finals ?
Yeah so basically you gain more elo as you “qualify” so you don’t technically need to win an entire tournament, sure you miss out on the “maximum elo” but you still gain which is why this strat doesn’t need “home runs” hope that helped
@@THiiXY word. I solo Q so it’s guna be real hard for me to rank up lol I’m playing quick play to unlocked ranked and it’s real hard to win matches solo Qing
Thank you embark sent me lol, this is how i need to play because i still suck at in your face fights 😂
Haha, yeah you don’t have to take those types of fights, sure sometimes you’ll be pressured to but it’s the overall style of play which is where you can thrive, thanks for watching!
Does the Stun gun cancel the steal?
It does far too much beyond that. Should just get reworked into a silence tool. Doesn't fuck mobility or capturing. It's just not interesting for a low skilled weapon. CC in shooters is aids.
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@@elimgarak1127fuck that lights have less than half the HP heavy has. They are squishy as hell and stun gun is the balance for that
Yes
Its not crazy because your just focusing on playing the objective instead of just going for kills. My friends and I won hundreds of BF matches doing the boring thing of going to the empty bases to recapture instead of just going to where all the fighting was. We could flip entire matches doing this even when it felt like our entire team just couldn't stay alive. It is always about playing the objective and as light you have to play a certain way and that's all.
Exactly! Thanks for backing the videos purpose up with this way of playing, appreciate the comment and you giving it a watch!
Game is so dead to hackers it's insane. At least in Diamond. You can't play 1 tournament without Chinese Hackers. :)
Yeah it’s actually really poor right now with the way they’re handling it too, they are saying theirs bugs preventing banning them etc too lol
Ya I guess low risk is low risk and all but I think its a lot for fun as a light to be in more combat. This passive mindset is just boring and I want to actually play the game and not just chill and get no kills although I'm qualifying.
Awesome! That’s a great way to play, as I said you’re allowed to play however you want :) this is just for those that are struggling and offers an alternative, we all enjoy having fun
Me a Diamond light using sniper only
Gigachad haha
what if your so bad you lose like 70 % of your fights how can some one improve without making it a job
Haha I understand. I would say make a recording of your fights, then watch it back and think "was I took aggressive", "could I have used an ability", "was it my positioning or aim". Try that out for a bit and you'll get your improvement come ASAP. Remember to enjoy the game and the process too!
If you missing that bad maybe lower your sens and warm up in the shooting range before you play
THiiXY is the Joe Rogan of the Finals
Thanks so much for watching!
hollyshit mn 7:00 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha I didn’t nearly jump off my chair LOL
My simple ADHD brain says
Hurt other team
Go invisible
Run away
Reload
Repeat
Stick n move
Maybe i'd be playing carefull for the first round then i'll just go rogue with my trusty aim
the shotgun was a troll
Haha, If you expel stun-gun on heavy stealing for example, the medium might go in to steal instead, so you can re-enter with shotgun to take them out quick. However in the original video I said weapon does not matter. Thanks for watching!
@@THiiXY I see👀
this vid did not get recomended to me :O
Yeah it's a shame I don't think they like me :(
This kind of gameplay is so frustrating for solo randoms I think, this macro moves need to understand properly
Yeah solo queue is for sure difficult and not optimal in a game like this, but many of us still do it in ranked for various reasons. Thanks for watching!
Do glitch grenade stop steal
No, it disables shields, turrets, abilities, gadgets and so on.
Only the stun gun stops people from stealing.
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Thanks for watching!!
Commen thiixy w
Common subscriber W for coming back, watching and commenting
Light in final round= you lose
Yeah I was also against two heavies as well but I made some mistakes that I'm not afraid to show you guys, I'm about the realism of saying "hey, I play the game differently, BUT it doesn't mean I'm a god" thanks for watching. Let's also see what happens with the new update!
@@THiiXY I feel you, it can't really be helped at the moment. MHH is an almost guaranteed win right now.
I hope the solo randos that my duo and I get don't watch this.
Would be awesome if you could spend time showing me your perspective as to why this isn't good! Before you do, feel free to watch the video before this that actually teaches this and explains why, no hate I'm just interested to hear the other side.
Appreciate you watching either way!
Light being squishy doesn't mean it's incapable of contributing to the fights you can play a lot higher risk and still be useful. The amount of squad wipes that I get using the dagger is insane and it's all happening ducking in and out of cover and fights with cloak.
you didnt even win the game 😂
Yoo! Thanks for watching!
Firstly, may I ask why I would have to win the entire tournament? Remember that I'm also solo queuing. We still gained 300ish elo and I actually went into the next match and did the same thing (600 elo in two runs). Just to mention that I'm showing realism, if I make a mistake in game, I'll show that so even my viewers can learn, better than "Cherry picking" a free win tournament with fake results. I'll be waiting for the reply, thanks!
@@THiiXY not only is it low effort to just record a strategy guide video in one take, it really doesnt help you bring your point across if you dont even win the actual game 😭😆
I really didn’t hear anything in this video that I didn’t already know. Very basic stuff in here.
Good vid if you’re a new player though.