Homebrew Wars : Original Xbox vs Nintendo Wii | MVG

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  • Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
  • The Nintendo Wii and Original Xbox have excellent homebrew capabilities. But which one is better overall? Lets take a deep dive and compare both systems.
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  • @JakonDeluxe
    @JakonDeluxe 4 года назад +475

    The only console war both companies wanted to lose.

    • @AymanTravelTransport
      @AymanTravelTransport 4 года назад +19

      Anything which opens the door to piracy is a big no-no for video games companies

    • @Adamlol642
      @Adamlol642 3 года назад +2

      @@AymanTravelTransport yeah I pirated many games then for fun I went on the website I got the games on and it was terminated

    • @TNTMusic5757
      @TNTMusic5757 3 года назад +3

      @@Adamlol642 ..uhhhh

    • @NatetheNintendofan
      @NatetheNintendofan 3 года назад +3

      @@Adamlol642 did you get a virus

    • @hecker3041
      @hecker3041 2 года назад

      XD

  • @mackdee911h3
    @mackdee911h3 4 года назад +477

    You know a console is good when its homebrew versatile.

    • @austinismadcrunk
      @austinismadcrunk 4 года назад +26

      Xbox, Wii, PSP, 3DS, and Switch are the kings imo.

    • @PatrickLofstrom
      @PatrickLofstrom 4 года назад +35

      PSVita has joined the conversation.

    • @Delta225
      @Delta225 4 года назад +14

      Wii U?

    • @XXLuigiMario
      @XXLuigiMario 4 года назад +10

      @@austinismadcrunk Don't forget the original DS.

    • @MrDmoney156
      @MrDmoney156 4 года назад +13

      @@austinismadcrunk Agreed! To bad the PS2 and PS3 never got this treatment cuz of shitty attitudes of the devs and always keeping crap to themselves slowing down the community all the time.

  • @piratebear3126
    @piratebear3126 4 года назад +137

    The Wii being able to display emulators in both a proper 240p for CRTs and 480p on modern televisions is the killer edge for me. Plus Nintendon't can load Triforce arcade games for F-Zero AX and Mario Kart GP.
    Can't go wrong with either of them though. Both of them were many people's first exposure to softmodding, mine included.

    • @piratebear3126
      @piratebear3126 4 года назад +14

      @@freshcoat9311 My Life in Gaming went over it in their farewell to the Wii Shop video and a few of their other RGB Master Class videos.
      It's as easy as setting 480i mode in the Wii's settings for official VC releases, and most homebrew emulators have a setting that is 240p or "original" in their video settings.

    • @andrewnorris5415
      @andrewnorris5415 4 года назад +6

      I don't get why this is a "killer edge" - as 480p on the Xbox emulation is exactly the same as 240p - they just duplicate each row. Xbox does 480p on modern TVs no problem. If you really want to play on an old CRT - you're much better getting the original system - for the truly authentic experience - in my opinion. 240p is better than the original systems did but so is a modern display, esp. a plasma, much better colors. So it all depends on preferences. Xbox also does 720p for emulated games, which for the res on some systems scales up better than the Wii which is stuck at 480p.

    • @darkerson
      @darkerson 4 года назад +1

      The other killer edge reason to want to use a CRT instead of an LCD/Plasma/whatever is INPUT LAG.

    • @logasoba
      @logasoba 4 года назад +12

      @@andrewnorris5415 you cant do 480p on crts. only 480i which looks like shit for classic games.

    • @SamplersAndThings
      @SamplersAndThings 4 года назад +3

      LogaSoba Some pro CRTs you can go as high as 1080i, my panasonic dt-m3050w does!

  • @MrMario2011
    @MrMario2011 4 года назад +40

    Good start to the new year!

  • @simbin.
    @simbin. 4 года назад +37

    Love both systems. It's worth mentioning that Wii can output 240p over component to CRT, which was great for RetroArch and things, before we had new products like MiSTer. Also, WiiMotion controls for on-rail shooters, offer a great modern fix, for fans of old-school Light Gun games, on modern HDTVs.

  • @BamonBoy
    @BamonBoy 4 года назад +159

    Just a note: the Homebrew browser has been replaced with the Open shop channel

    • @skideric
      @skideric 4 года назад +10

      Well,i need to catch up ! Thanks!

    • @MrDmoney156
      @MrDmoney156 4 года назад +6

      Ah really? Never knew this, thanks

    • @elcamello1980
      @elcamello1980 4 года назад +13

      Wait, so is that why my HBB doesn't load correctly?
      I gotta get this new app!
      Good lookin' out, man!

    • @AuroraNemoia
      @AuroraNemoia 4 года назад +23

      Open Shop Channel is literally just HBB, but with a new server hosted by the Riiconnect24 team.

    • @mazor13
      @mazor13 4 года назад +1

      never even heard of this but I have not modded a wii in years. Thanks!

  • @izzyhope3810
    @izzyhope3810 4 года назад +195

    1:34 "which system is better in 2020"
    Me: What is he talking ab- Wait its allready 2020

    • @lionfire3359
      @lionfire3359 4 года назад +1

      Yes but there are retro gamers who stick to the console they grew up with.

  • @LucyDejima
    @LucyDejima 4 года назад +165

    Homebrew New Year everyone!

  • @Ish0tJR
    @Ish0tJR 4 года назад +71

    Their both great machines but if I’m playing on a CRT today, I prefer a soft modded Wii to a soft modded XBox due to native Bluetooth, WiFi and USB 2.0 support. Also, emulators on the Wii tend to be more up to date with more modern features like 7zip support for WAY smaller rom sets. Great video as always ;)

    • @JoshLineberry
      @JoshLineberry 4 года назад +1

      HAHAHAHA. Sorry but the xbox > wii and the emulators are sooo much better on the xbox.

    • @Chris-Courage
      @Chris-Courage 4 года назад +11

      @@JoshLineberry I find that for 16 bit emulation the wii emulators seems to be more accurate in both graphics and audio compared to xbox emulators. xbox can do more yes but for what the wii can do, I think it's better. So I own both and only use my xbox emulators for stuff the wii cannot handle.

  • @shanomacdaddy
    @shanomacdaddy 4 года назад +58

    The Wii can also do 240p which is nice with emulation/virtual console on CRT's, has a wider variety of controllers to choose from, and virtual console injects are nice.
    Both the Xbox & Wii are great systems and cant go wrong with either.

    • @icee1683
      @icee1683 2 года назад +1

      The only nitpick I have with the og xbox is its size, still a great console though.

  • @VicHD
    @VicHD 4 года назад +3

    I got a Wii in 2014 and a year or so later chose to softmod it. The homebrew channel, along with its emulators, really gave the console a whole new life. I still use it to this day.

  • @LetsPlayKeldeo
    @LetsPlayKeldeo 4 года назад +147

    I litterally cant get enought of your videos x3

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 4 года назад +6

      I can't either.. He has so much insight and he talks with so much information on the subject it's hard to not *watch* .. *"Edit: Changed LOOK to WATCH"*

  • @TPRES_74
    @TPRES_74 4 года назад +154

    People still sleep on the Wii and it's Homebrew. I was gonna get a snes mini or genesis mini then I thought forget that I can play both on my wii and many more.

    • @MrDmoney156
      @MrDmoney156 4 года назад +16

      Let people be idiots, it's their fault for not doing their research

    • @rooskiwolf1653
      @rooskiwolf1653 4 года назад +10

      @@MrDmoney156 I use my Wii to play Gamecube backups and my Emulators in 240p. Works like a charm.

    • @BlueHedgehog12345678
      @BlueHedgehog12345678 4 года назад +11

      You are right. Modded OG Xbox, Wii or PS2 fat with Hdd are really good and cheap gaming devices with good emulators. I really don't understand why people are spending money on snes mini (emulator), ps1 mini (emulator)or emulation boxes from China. For relative small amount of money you can buy any of this 6th gen. consoles and have really good gaming devices and more! For me this is the best generation of consoles = best games(for me personally)+emulators (xbox and wii have more and better emulators than PS2). As a long fan of video games for me defenetly 6th generation is on 1st place, then 4th is on 2nd place and 5th gen is on 3rd place, after that it doesn't matter to me that much.

    • @MegaKirbySuperstar
      @MegaKirbySuperstar 4 года назад +23

      @@BlueHedgehog12345678 I'm for modded consoles and also prefer getting a Wii but ppl are buying the minis as collector items, for how amazingly cute they are, and. For the easy plug and play and immediacy. They aren't stupid. That's just what they want

    • @dustyk01
      @dustyk01 4 года назад +1

      Well same for me

  • @give_me_my_nick_back
    @give_me_my_nick_back 4 года назад +88

    There is one super unique feature of wii that no other "modern" console has and that is 240p@60Hz RGB output (other consoles are 480i only) making it the only possible option aside of trickery with old PCs for 8/16bit on CRT thanks to its 240p scart output.
    Also... yeah you totally forgot to put wii's 240p support in your table :)

    • @seandonovan7062
      @seandonovan7062 4 года назад +10

      Yesssss. I have to bring this up all the time when people tell me that the WiiU is better than the Wii in every way for homebrew. Using Retroarch or a well developed Emulator like Snes9x, you can select "original" video mode and it will run it exactly like its supposed to.
      Another cool thing about that.. The internal aspect ratio of the Snes is actually 8:7, not 4:3. You also get a chance to see how some of these games look as they were intended.

    • @Kurtis761
      @Kurtis761 4 года назад +11

      I can't believe this fact wasn't mentioned. I still overall prefer my xbox, but this is a massive bonus for using the wii on a crt.
      If only someone could hack the xbox video encoder to output 240p, doubt it's even possible though.

    • @richardaddison7368
      @richardaddison7368 4 года назад

      @@Kurtis761 it is possible

    • @gabrieltorres6633
      @gabrieltorres6633 4 года назад +5

      @@seandonovan7062 that's true however some games are made I'm a way to be stretch and would look weird if they were displayed at 8:7 aspect ratio

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth 4 года назад +3

      Wii also supports the Gamecube-Gameboy Advance communication cable.

  • @sergiorprado12
    @sergiorprado12 4 года назад +44

    I would choose a Wii U instead of any of those two. The Wii U besides being retrocompatible with the Wii and all its homebrews, also can play GameCube on the gamepad like a semi-portable GameCube. And the Retroarch available for the Wii U offers a great variety of emulators of old consoles and arcades too.

    • @123456Domingo
      @123456Domingo 4 года назад +6

      Yes Wii U is awesome, it is Wii on steroids, you get everything you could get on Wii with vWii mode, also you get all of Wii U library. Wii U games are awesome too, Zelda BOTW, Mario Kart 8, Mario 3D land and a lot of other awesome games are on Wii U.

    • @swagmaster8225
      @swagmaster8225 Год назад +2

      That’s the reason I bought one only bad thing about it is you’re more unlikely to unbrick a wii u if it gets messed up

    • @frozencatcake
      @frozencatcake 4 дня назад

      i agree

  • @eldiablogaming4096
    @eldiablogaming4096 4 года назад +35

    It’s always amazing to see the history of homebrew on console.

    • @BFKAnthony817
      @BFKAnthony817 2 года назад

      The modern homebrew scene really started on Dreamcast, you should check it out. Still getting so many things brought over to it still to this day. The most recent homebrew port was Tomb Raider 1 which is so awesome. But yes, of course there were homebrew games made for older systems, but porting PC games to a console was really not a thing as big as it is now until the Dreamcast came out and was super easy to develop for. Obviously the OG Xbox and Wii carried on that torch, and don't forget the awesome PSP, HUGE homebrew community on that little powerhouse too! That is also what I like about the OG Xbox, it was literally X86 architecture so it allowed so many PC open sourced game ports and emulators it is crazy.

  • @MadnessMan13
    @MadnessMan13 4 года назад +2

    Got XLink Kai up & running a few weeks ago for my Original Xbox & have been enjoying playing OG halo 2 online with tons of people. Your channel is the #1 reason I found out it was possible to do so. Love the channel & the content! Would love to see more & more people taking advantage of XLink Kai in 2020 for the Original Xbox.

  • @Cold_Media
    @Cold_Media 4 года назад +9

    So hyped for XPostal! Can’t wait, that’s gonna be so good, keep up the good work my man!

  • @cloudit305
    @cloudit305 4 года назад

    Always felt like picking one of these up to play old games. Liking videos like this one really helps out whenever I have the time to dedicate to such a project. Thank you. It's very appreciated.

  • @BrokenOpus
    @BrokenOpus 4 года назад +16

    Looked at the thumbnail and thought it was a “You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about” meme.

  • @cheater00
    @cheater00 4 года назад +28

    bro, this is my first video after the year flipped. what a great start! happy new year MVG, i hope you have a great one!

  • @dodgykebaab
    @dodgykebaab 4 года назад +5

    I hit that like almost before the video starts playing with its MVG!

  • @Sterophonick
    @Sterophonick 4 года назад

    Great way to start 2020. A new MVG video. Keep up the great content!

  • @pc1x1
    @pc1x1 4 года назад

    Thanks for actually picking a winner. This is why I like this channel. 90% RUclipsrs basically fence sit, and advertise. Ill prob just mod both as I have use cases for both. Thanks!

  • @naomi_spysat
    @naomi_spysat 4 года назад +18

    I just remembered this channel and found that not 10 minutes ago you had uploaded. Very cool.

  • @jamesbuckwas6575
    @jamesbuckwas6575 4 года назад +26

    I like the Wii more. It can play almost every Nintendo home console game up to that point, and Game Boy/Game Boy Advance games.
    But I also like the Xbox.

    • @MegaKirbySuperstar
      @MegaKirbySuperstar 4 года назад +4

      I never had an X Box. I am impressed by what it can do. Makes me curious. I was always turned off by how bulky the console in general is. From the box itself to its fat controllers. My hands are little! Ill stick to my Wii/Wii U/ and PS Vita but I'm impressed by the xbox

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth 4 года назад +2

      @@MegaKirbySuperstar - You can use PS2, Dualshock 2 compatible, controller adapters & the X-Box has an internal, upgradeable HDD. It's pretty nice & it still has an active homebrew community. MAME-oXtras 2020 was just recently released for the original X-Box!

    • @sigurdtheblue
      @sigurdtheblue 3 года назад

      @@MegaKirbySuperstar Yeah, classic XBox controllers were kind of hillarious. I don't have big hands and I played the XBox mostly when I was not even in my teens. But the fact that Nintendo 64 had an even more unwieldy controller prepared me for it a little. The controllers were still heavier if I recall correctly. I think the original XBox is a truly unique experience, as is the Gamecube and Wii.

  • @ToTaLShaFF
    @ToTaLShaFF 4 года назад

    Happy New Year and MVG, keep up the good work brother!

  • @jarrodedwards5518
    @jarrodedwards5518 4 года назад

    Great start to 2020, Let the wars begin!!! Happy New Year MVG!

  • @Jakeeenator
    @Jakeeenator 4 года назад +6

    Man I remember when I first modded my Wii. This was back in 09 and I was 15. Those were some great times. Sometimes I wish I could go back.

    • @gabrieltorres6633
      @gabrieltorres6633 4 года назад +1

      I think I was 14-15 as well and it was everything. I had so many roms, homebrew and mods.

  • @FR4M3Sharma
    @FR4M3Sharma 4 года назад +27

    I always wanted to have a Gaming Console and today my wish was granted. (Sort of)
    Today i just got a Xbox Original the same Translucent version as MVG have here.
    I turned it On, and it booted and works the DvD drive is dead though since the person who had it said "it's been laying in my pile of tech trash for 4 years or so" so i was skeptical whether it'll work or not but to my surprise it worked AND is also modded! Which is also a good thing perhaps. I'm so happy today that i finally got a Console i always wanted a PS2 since they more common in my country but i'm also glad i got this!
    The only downsight is that he didn't had a Controller or Video component cables for it. I know i can buy them easily (the cable tho) but i won't get the original controller which would've been great.
    Everything's is fine with this but it's missing the DvD tray's front panel.
    Here are some pics :
    imgur.com/a/dcPcD4r
    If anyone would me to recommend some mods or whether where i can update them then please don't hesitate to ping me :)
    Happy New Year Ya'll!

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth 4 года назад +5

      If you have a Samsung DVD drive, try to fix it. They have the best disc compatibility, playing DVD+R DLs & CD-Rs, unlike Thompson & Phillips drives. If you have a V1.6 board (I believe the crystal X-Boxes were), you cannot perform the 128MB RAM upgrade; You need the empty pads on your board. If you step up to a SATA HDD, avoid Kingwin brand adapters as they introduce a long delay on boot. I prefer a hardmod to a softmod as it removes the HDD lock to the motherboard, allowing easy HDD upgrades. The Aladdin chip is very cheap & relatively easy to install; X-Box v1.6s are more of a pain than previous board revisions. Use xbox partitioner 1.3 to fine tune your F & G partitions on large HDDs; I'm using 2, 2TB WD blue label notebook HDDs & a 500GB Samsung Evo 850 solid state in a 3rd X-Box; It boots up very fast.

    • @mazor13
      @mazor13 4 года назад +5

      @@TexasHollowEarth Damn man. Good info. Especially with the HD and disc drive tips.

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth 4 года назад +4

      @@mazor13 - Happy to help. Let me know if you got any other questions. I've been working on OG X-Boxes for nearly 20 years!

    • @Meansoduck
      @Meansoduck 4 года назад +2

      That’s awesome man, enjoy your xbox. Happy New Year :0

    • @nevergiveup3293
      @nevergiveup3293 4 года назад +2

      Nicee

  • @thequake2009
    @thequake2009 4 года назад +1

    Happy New Year MVG! 2020 and beyond

  • @SatoshiMatrix1
    @SatoshiMatrix1 4 года назад

    Does anyone know where I could get my Xbox modded with the additional 64 MB?
    I have a 1.4 Xbox that has the spots on the board for the additional ram, but I don't have the ram chips nor any experience soldering surface mount components like that, so I'd need to send it off to be modded by someone who can. Any tips where to look?

  • @Cpnpunisher
    @Cpnpunisher 4 года назад +4

    This was spot on personally I had an Xbox & been thinking of getting another one just to have for some arcade classic.

  • @tomuppercut7101
    @tomuppercut7101 4 года назад +4

    I'll say this in the Wii's favor it's super easy to find one in the wild. I picked one up a few weeks ago at a Goodwill for $20 and that was two controllers with Wii Motion Plus and a Wii Fit Balance Board.

  • @disanthr0
    @disanthr0 4 года назад

    Love your videos and your podcast. Keep up the good work.

  • @TheMasterOfSafari
    @TheMasterOfSafari 4 года назад

    Happy new year!
    A new year of MVG :)

  • @MFTony727
    @MFTony727 4 года назад +8

    I've got them both modded. I've actually modded several of both systems, including the wii u. I honestly prefer the wii for emulation, mostly due to the SD card slot making it easier the add more roms and also the ability to use USB controllers and wireless controllers. But I love both systems and just games in general

    • @ButWhyMe...
      @ButWhyMe... Год назад

      That's sweet! If it's fine, what controllers do you use bc all I can find so far is ps3/4 wired controllers replacing gamecube controllers in nintendont, but I'm looking for one that can replace the wii remote.

  • @BlockABoots
    @BlockABoots 4 года назад +8

    The Wii can also do 240p, along with a Scart lead and RetroArch this has the xbox beat if connecting to a CRT display!!!

  • @jackburton8352
    @jackburton8352 4 года назад

    I like your content man.
    Happy New Year.

  • @brandonklopfenstein1633
    @brandonklopfenstein1633 4 года назад

    Love watching you’re videos. Good to see you on spawncast!

  • @Hazzardous13
    @Hazzardous13 4 года назад +7

    Man, I think you've missed one of the best points! Game mods!
    Now I can't speak for Xbox, but back in the day on Wii I was playing a ton of these!
    You have project M, an amazing smash mod that still has a tournament scene and online play to this day, and is worth considering for the title of best smash game ever made.
    You also have Mario kart CTGP, adding more than 200 new tracks to Mario Kart, including new mechanics like faster boosts, I got triple the enjoyment out of this than any Mario kart released before or since!
    And you've got newer Mario Bros, custom worlds for new super mario Bros that add all new worlds, powerups, and just a phenomenal sequel overall, plus another one in development!
    Patching your game disks to play these transformational overhauls of amazing games is the REASON to play a modded Wii, imo, and I'd love some details on the Xbox side of this, too!

  • @DanielLopez-up6os
    @DanielLopez-up6os 4 года назад +6

    Mame also work quite well under Retroarch on the Wii, but my favourite is the WiiSX to emulate PS1 and thus have discovered many PS1 games i missed out on, and Nintendont to enjoy Rare Gamecube games in 480p.

    • @viniciusbarros5881
      @viniciusbarros5881 4 года назад

      Use WiiSXR that can play some games better than WiiSX

  • @andresgv10
    @andresgv10 4 года назад

    Happy new year MVG!

  • @chaos3two
    @chaos3two 4 года назад

    Love your vids MVG, always informative, concise, fun & straight to the point!
    It's a shame you had to pull down the homebrew wars vid on PS Vita vs Switch. I'm a an avid PlayStation fan & that video in particular was the reason i brought a switch

  • @worldwritere-cat6603
    @worldwritere-cat6603 4 года назад +6

    1:40 That's some PC-98 Touhou music, innit? There's no way I wouldn't recognize it, although I don't remember the name or what stage it's from, but I believe that's from Lotus Land Story specifically.
    EDIT: Wait, I'm dumb. It's the fricking main theme! XD

    • @SakuyaInuIzayoi1
      @SakuyaInuIzayoi1 4 года назад +1

      That moment when you are focusing more on the background music and getting sightly annoyed by all the talking preventing you from recognizing it. Glad I was not mistaken about the theme

  • @DukeDudeston
    @DukeDudeston 4 года назад +4

    I have a softmodded Wii (was thinking about doing same to my Wii U one day).
    Its a great console to mod, and great for some retro games. I mainly done it for the GameCube support though.
    I have the vWii modded on Wii U so get to enjoy GC games via HDMI (I do have component for Wii too) nothing beats a genuine GC controller through (I know you can get a GC USB adapter for Wii U but dont want to spend any more money)

    • @7shocker
      @7shocker 4 года назад

      USB helper for Wii u is amazing. Playing GC games on the gamepad is awesome. Gotta try it out. With USB helper you can get nintendont to install as a tile on the home screen. You have to do the haxchii mod which is a little involved but doable. Avoid Jack Sorrel for Wii u modding 👍

  • @miguelroman4294
    @miguelroman4294 4 года назад

    really enjoyed this video, thanks!

  • @BlindReflex
    @BlindReflex 4 года назад

    Love your videos man.

  • @Lee.Moriya
    @Lee.Moriya 4 года назад +11

    PC-98 Touhou music, so good 😩

    • @sakitoshi
      @sakitoshi 4 года назад +3

      Lotus Land Story title theme to be precise.

    • @hjy2187418
      @hjy2187418 4 года назад +3

      didn't expect to here that in dis channel

    • @sigurdtheblue
      @sigurdtheblue 3 года назад

      @@sakitoshi Lotus Land Story has the best of the soundtracks, but I didn't recognize the title theme because I usually spent no time on it.

    • @puyofan99
      @puyofan99 2 года назад

      I hate humanity now.

  • @Ashachi
    @Ashachi 4 года назад +14

    I still have my Wii from launch day, never connected it to the internet, just pure offline fun.

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 4 года назад +3

      Boy you don't know what you are missing.. free that Wii!

    • @nathanurie4686
      @nathanurie4686 4 года назад +3

      @@kenrickeason dude. We connected ours to the internet...... we never did much with those features. Only got like what, 2 virtual console games?

    • @Dash120z
      @Dash120z 4 года назад

      @@nathanurie4686 Mario Kart, Smash Bros Online, Call Of Duty.. you're missing tons of fun.

    • @nathanurie4686
      @nathanurie4686 4 года назад

      @@Dash120z by the time I did get a wii and went online the services for those were already disconnected

    • @Joostinonline
      @Joostinonline 4 года назад

      Do you know what system menu you have? I used to be a homebrew developer for the Wii (I helped with Nintendont), and I'd be very interested to get some information about a device that hasn't connected to the Internet.

  • @coreyhawkins5081
    @coreyhawkins5081 4 года назад

    Excellent video. Thank you sir.

  • @Richter.Belmont
    @Richter.Belmont 4 года назад

    Happy 2020 MVG! 🥳

  • @ShindlerReal
    @ShindlerReal 4 года назад +5

    Wii runs a whole bunch of N64 games perfectly via Virtual Console in higher resolution and better framerate than the actual N64. It also supports Classic Controller and NES and SNES controllers made for Mini consoles. Both Xbox controllers are rather poor for 8 and 16 bit games. I own both consoles, but Wii has more value for me.

  • @LeLouis
    @LeLouis 4 года назад +11

    I'd prefer the Wii, not just for homebrew but I love Super Mario Galaxy xD

    • @MegaKirbySuperstar
      @MegaKirbySuperstar 4 года назад +1

      I ADORE Mario Galaxy 2. Both games, honestly are masterpieces.

  • @SalCapone6499
    @SalCapone6499 4 года назад

    These videos are so awesome!!!

  • @CatchMyThrowingKnife
    @CatchMyThrowingKnife 4 года назад

    Happy new years MVG

  • @wibli
    @wibli 4 года назад +5

    In my hometown is easier to find cheap Wii consoles, working, complete with accesories and already soft-moded (I have 3 of them)

  • @odin_th_red_heeler
    @odin_th_red_heeler 4 года назад +6

    I just got an OG Xbox from the goodwill in a travel pack, 4 controllers with the kids name taped onto them for 15 bucks, I plugged it in and found Halo in the drive. I got a Hdmi adapter and am going to mod this weekend. Thanks for your hard work and solid content

    • @bitset3741
      @bitset3741 4 года назад

      Check online on how to take care of the clock capacitor. It is pretty easy honestly, but if it leaks and damages the board it is more difficult.

  • @waqarchughtai440
    @waqarchughtai440 4 года назад +1

    Happy New Year!

  • @EtanMarlin
    @EtanMarlin 4 года назад

    Love you man, you're a great guy and you're smart, love you're videos, I hope you never stop

  • @msamiullah001
    @msamiullah001 4 года назад +7

    2:08 Wii can output 240p also

  • @Sheepy007
    @Sheepy007 4 года назад +3

    Kodi Commercial? I thought Kodi was the open source continuation of XBMC while PLEX is the commercial media Server-player fork.

  • @johna6602
    @johna6602 4 года назад +2

    That's why i want my Xbox modded, i want to play obscure arcade titles and shmups etc more than i want to revisit old Nintendo games that a lot of them i've already played. This is a great channel for the stuff you put out MVG, there is no reason these consoles should just be scrapped once they become obsolete and these videos are so important for learning just "how to?" etc.

  • @theburntcrumpet8371
    @theburntcrumpet8371 4 года назад +3

    The Xbox wins for me. It just feels like a beast of a system

  • @dotmhd
    @dotmhd 4 года назад +2

    The Nintendo 64 emulation on Xbox is really performant but you can also use some tools that higher the compatibility list of the Wii like custom Virtual Console injectors 😊

  • @segaswirl3007
    @segaswirl3007 4 года назад

    Love these videos

  • @ukeleleliterario8591
    @ukeleleliterario8591 4 года назад

    Great video!

  • @nattila7713
    @nattila7713 4 года назад +55

    wii : lightgun emulation for nes, snes, mastersystem, megadrive

    • @clone0azul9
      @clone0azul9 4 года назад +6

      Actually the Xbox can emulate light gun in those systems if you have a real light gun and real light gun it's way better than the Wiimote

    • @stedmangg
      @stedmangg 4 года назад +8

      @@clone0azul9 then it won't work on a modern tv

    • @clone0azul9
      @clone0azul9 4 года назад +2

      @@stedmangg yeah but it's more accurate and faster than the Wiimote, I've seen that Xbox OG light Guns work even in Arcade emulators like coinops and Virtua Cop 3 if you have the Ram Mod

    • @youtubeadmin1588
      @youtubeadmin1588 4 года назад +1

      Német Attila and arcade games right? That’s huge...

    • @youtubeadmin1588
      @youtubeadmin1588 4 года назад +1

      stedmangg you wouldn’t want to display these systems on anything other than a CRT anyways.

  • @rika5240
    @rika5240 4 года назад +9

    *notices background music*
    "Wait is this Touhou? xddd"

    • @DannyTan6675
      @DannyTan6675 4 года назад

      I think its PC98 Touhou music, which game, though, I'm not sure.

    • @rika5240
      @rika5240 4 года назад

      @@DannyTan6675 Yeah it is, Touhou 4: Lotus Land Story
      It's the menu theme ;D

  • @megaklok
    @megaklok 4 года назад

    If 2020 promises quality videos like this MVG has an incredible year ahead

  • @ThatsWhyImGod
    @ThatsWhyImGod 4 года назад

    Happy new year buddy

  • @logannosleep5
    @logannosleep5 4 года назад +3

    If I had to get one...has both. Me too though im actually softmodding a xbox later today tomorrow. got lucky and got the original xbox for 30$ shipped on ebay.

    • @TheRiverintheRoad
      @TheRiverintheRoad 4 года назад +1

      I'm very thankful I have a Wii U so I can truly have it all

    • @logannosleep5
      @logannosleep5 4 года назад

      @@TheRiverintheRoad So do i but i cant play xbox original games on the Wii U, and neither can you....

  • @Aze478
    @Aze478 4 года назад +30

    The Disk Drive On the Nintendo wii
    Is amazing but sham on them for removing the gamecube ports.

    • @jacobheinrich6557
      @jacobheinrich6557 4 года назад

      Amari Lee what do you mean by removing the GameCube ports?

    • @spiritpyros
      @spiritpyros 4 года назад +2

      @@jacobheinrich6557 in later Wii models they removed the GameCube ports chances are you got a much earlier model or even a launch model

    • @jacobheinrich6557
      @jacobheinrich6557 4 года назад +2

      spiritpyros In the Wii Mini? lol. But what Wii’s have the GameCube ports removed, I own two Wii’s from 2008 and 1 from when the wii was discontinued... they all look the same. The only differences are internal

    • @Aze478
      @Aze478 4 года назад +2

      The Family edition

    • @Aze478
      @Aze478 4 года назад

      I Still own A White wii and I Currently have a molded wii with out the gamecube ports.

  • @videogameobsession
    @videogameobsession 4 года назад

    How does the Genesis Mini or PSX Mini stack up? I've seen the PSX sell to $20 and the GEN selling for $35 a few days ago. I like to use low wattage / fanless options when possible.

  • @OliNorwell
    @OliNorwell 4 года назад

    Great video, small correction, Plex is the commercial product that was forked from XBMC, Kodi has never been a commercial product.

  • @hershellumiere
    @hershellumiere 4 года назад +56

    My answer: get them both, along with a PS3.

    • @DoserNoftytftrd
      @DoserNoftytftrd 4 года назад +5

      Yup all dirt cheap

    • @TexasHollowEarth
      @TexasHollowEarth 4 года назад +3

      ... & a exploitable Switch, Wii-U, & Vita. I got alot a mods to do on other systems too, but these 3 are very active in development & I'm enjoying mine alot.

    • @jakegarrett8109
      @jakegarrett8109 4 года назад +3

      I feel like PC just needs good local multi-player support then we’d only need 1 system (unfortunately they gimp the console game ports and remove split screen), because otherwise it’s a great system that is ever evolving and has the horsepower for anything. Plus you can use basically any controller (I can use my Steam controller, my PS3 or PS4 controller, or Xbox if you prefer, or mouse and keyboard or I’ve even done mouse in one hand and controller in the other, anything you want). Plus it’s very easy to multi-boot for many generations of games (have XP/7/10/Linux or whatever else you want), and you can run virtual machines for all your friends for really old games.
      Like my desktop for example can turn into the ultimate LAN party box, since it has a couple Ethernet ports and WiFi (so you don’t need a router, just direct plug in other computers), not to mention I could split it into fourths and run 4c/8t Ryzen at 4+ GHz with each having its own GPU and let everyone play whatever they want with GPU passthrough (they seriously need to make this easier), or I can run it all as a single machine that will dominate games like Crysis 3 running at 4k Ultra at 100 fps thanks to quad crossfire (I’m using a Threadripper if anyone is confused).
      It’s an ever expanding potential platform, and the cost to entry is low for a 1080p 120 fps machine (like $250 in used parts), but sadly it’s completely lacking against consoles in the ease of set up and just “plug and play” for parties and such, which is a shame because it has such potential (when a PS3 is running 4 splitscreens and yet PC can’t as a standard you know that’s whack!).
      But games are extremely cheap on PS3 now (like $3 to $5 at GameStop), so yeah, you can get a decent collection for like $100. I still enjoy PS 1/2/3 occasionally with friends (still need to find crash bandicoot for next time I see my friend with a PS1, what an awesome game!)

    • @fryncyaryorvjink2140
      @fryncyaryorvjink2140 4 года назад +4

      Whoa, I have all 3! If 12 year old me could see me now... he'd say go exercise

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 4 года назад +1

      The PS3 smokes both of these, it's the reason RetroArch even exist!

  • @FdupTV
    @FdupTV 4 года назад +13

    I'd get a Wii U and have all the benefits of it AND the Wii!

    • @redwidow1358
      @redwidow1358 4 года назад +1

      Wii U has no GameCube controller or memory card ports, and even with the official adapter, still no real memory card support, only emulated.

    • @RandyWaage
      @RandyWaage 4 года назад

      I own a modded Wii U too and it's a great system. Been meaning to mod the Wii side of it. As of right now I do find myself using my modded Wii more often though.

    • @alexatkin
      @alexatkin 4 года назад +2

      @@redwidow1358 The memory cards will die eventually, so I consider no real memory card support as a benefit.

    • @redwidow1358
      @redwidow1358 4 года назад

      @@alexatkin I like being able to plug in my real existing card and continue playing my save files right where I left off

  • @Kps117A
    @Kps117A 4 года назад

    I was wondering, does a modded WiiU/Xbox360 make the previous models obsolete ? Or is there still stuff that the softmodded Wii/Xbox can do that the WiiU/Xbox360 can't do ?

  • @MattBooth
    @MattBooth 4 года назад

    You ALWAYS have the best intro music.

  • @dphmachine6276
    @dphmachine6276 4 года назад +31

    I'm only recently starting to appreciate the Wii

    • @kenrickeason
      @kenrickeason 4 года назад +7

      One of the best consoles I ever owned.. After You Soft mod that thing it becomes the system Nintendo couldn't make and it's beautiful..

    • @RandyWaage
      @RandyWaage 4 года назад

      I absolutely LOVE my Wii! It's just such a great go to system for easy soft modding and emulation.

    • @youtubeadmin1588
      @youtubeadmin1588 4 года назад

      Lsdmachine666 the Wii still sucks but emulation wise this is cool.

    • @JonathanX95xboxlive
      @JonathanX95xboxlive 4 года назад

      Love your profile pic. Great band.

    • @youtubeadmin1588
      @youtubeadmin1588 4 года назад

      Random Person umm because as a mainline video games platform it’s games library is utterly pathetic? It was popular with children, adults who didnt traditionally like video games, girls and women trying to lose weight who didn’t traditionally like games, and old people. Basically every single demographic except for traditional video gamers who completely ignored it in favor of Xbox and PlayStation.
      So yes the machine sucks by most gamers standards. Sorry that hurts your fanballs but I did not have a single male friend back in the day in my early to mid 20s who had one lol. I dated chicks who had it with Wii Fit and Just Dance and all that jazz.
      But it has GameCube support, Wii has a handful of decent video games, and it seems the emulation is good so there is that.

  • @jfroco
    @jfroco 4 года назад +4

    Great video! For me 240p is the Wii killer application. Playing emulators and virtual console games on a CRT@240p almost plug and play is priceless.

  • @androidfanatic6528
    @androidfanatic6528 4 года назад

    Happy New year mvg

  • @FamilyTeamGaming
    @FamilyTeamGaming 4 года назад +1

    Hey, hey, hey, MVG?
    What is that tune playing at around 5:25?
    Is that PC98 Touhou music?

  • @duouk2000
    @duouk2000 4 года назад +4

    You get 240p support with the Wii which is nice when you're playing on a CRT. If I could live without physical media I'd probably get a small CRT and Wii. OTOH a modded Xbox does give you access to English Rent-A-Hero which I still want to play even now.

  • @msamiullah001
    @msamiullah001 4 года назад +12

    i think nintendo wii much better homebrew system because:
    1- It can output the older games in their native 240p . Retroarch on wii has great cps1 and cps2 emulation
    2- There are alot of nintendo emulation games available also on VC
    3- Much better controller options
    4- Takes much less space :)

    • @RandyWaage
      @RandyWaage 4 года назад

      Great points!

    • @richardaddison7368
      @richardaddison7368 4 года назад +1

      The Xbox is better I had both of them you can have wireless controllers on Xbox and itg has so many games you could install and other kinds of programs and more controllers you could install a 2tb hard drive my friend has a 3tb Xbox with 700 XBOX GAMES and thousands of retro games

    • @JoshLineberry
      @JoshLineberry 4 года назад +1

      actually, these days, you can use xbox one controllers, 360, 8bitdo controllers etc. on the original xbox. They also do cps1 and cps2, etc. Emulation and the emulators on the xbox are superior to the wii in almost every way. It doesnt support 240p but they work all around better and have much better user interfaces/preview videos and such.

    • @Dash120z
      @Dash120z 4 года назад

      @@JoshLineberry you can use PS2/3/4 and a wide variety of controllers to play GameCube via Nintendont you can't go wrong either cuz they're both homebrew beasts.

    • @JoshLineberry
      @JoshLineberry 4 года назад +1

      @@Dash120z yeah, they are both great and everyone should have both. I have both of them modded to the max. I've been working on my 3tb Xbox setup for about 4 years now. It's amazing and so customizable.

  • @redwidow1358
    @redwidow1358 4 года назад +1

    In addition, for the Nintendo Wii, if you scrub your ISO's with DMToolbox (select Optimized, Auto, and leave the box unchecked), then go to Nintendont's settings and turn on Unlock Read Speed, your games can load things much faster and smoother. My playthrough of Mega Man X Command Mission has gone from something like 140 hours for the entire game plus secret bosses, to something like 25 to get to the seventh of ten chapters and one secret boss taken down. The biggest change is the random battles loading in much faster, you don't have to sit and stare at the same trippy effect for like ten seconds anymore, which is greatly appreciated since grinding in this game can take a WHILE. And loading screens with the text "accessing" take about half the time. I have noticed a bit more speed in the battles themselves as well. Overall I'm having a much better experience with a game I already loved, and if nothing else, you can do this to save space on your USB/SD storage and cram more games on.

  • @RanyBx
    @RanyBx 4 года назад

    Great video! I spent months and months getting both my OG Xbox and Wii fully "pimped" out back in the day and still use them quite a bit now. I would like to add that the Wii also supports 240p while the Xbox doesn't and many homebrew apps (e.g RetroArch) and wiiware/vc games take full advantage of that feature.
    PS: I can't for the release of Postal!

  • @lionfire3359
    @lionfire3359 4 года назад +3

    God damn the original xbox was so powerful it bested the Wii which is 2 generations ahead. Hats off to Microsoft for th iui s incredible system.

  • @TheWolfkit
    @TheWolfkit 4 года назад +4

    > The Xbox has power
    No, the Wii has Power. The Xbox has a Celeron 😹

  • @RonkeyRong
    @RonkeyRong 4 года назад

    Hey MVG, was there ever any method to output 240p on the original Xbox for homebrew or emulation? I've only ever managed to output 480i signal and above using the original Xbox when emulating N64/SNES titles.

  • @RCfromtheNYC
    @RCfromtheNYC 4 года назад

    Thank you for the video. I'm new to the retro-console upcycling and your info gave me food for thought. 👍
    I do have one question...how good is the Xbox 360 in arcade emulation compared to the first Xbox or the Wii?

  • @dekutony
    @dekutony 4 года назад +8

    Homebrew Wars: 3DS vs PSP

  • @geovani60624
    @geovani60624 4 года назад +4

    where i live one wii cost literally almost nothing while one og xbox is almost impossible to find and it's kinda expensive

  • @Ziggurat1
    @Ziggurat1 4 года назад +1

    Can you do a video on the MiSTer FPGA device?

  • @EXITMUSIC2011
    @EXITMUSIC2011 4 года назад

    Glad to see you're still working on OG Xbox!

  • @Rich3rd
    @Rich3rd 4 года назад +7

    “Failure of the GameCube” had no idea it was considered a failure

    • @keymaster2024
      @keymaster2024 4 года назад +2

      dUDE the gamecube sucked it had no games worth shit

    • @lightningalex2235
      @lightningalex2235 4 года назад +6

      FATTY DOODOO The only funny part about your joke is how bad it is.

    • @octavioperez4334
      @octavioperez4334 4 года назад +3

      Well... compared to the nes and snes the GameCube didn’t sell too well. Although I wouldn’t deem it as a “failure” The Wii U was a failure.

    • @S.Grenier
      @S.Grenier 4 года назад +5

      Well, it wasn't a failure in that it was and still is a beloved system with a lot of very impressive games on it. That being said, it wasn't the commercial success its competitors were (and compared to the N64, lacked visibility, everyone were talking about the PS2). It just didn't have the library the Xbox and PS2 had, but what was good on it was VERY good. In that way, the Gamecube's story is not disimilar to the Dreamcast, which most popular consider a commercial failure, despite being one of the most beloved systems in history.

    • @Sirmeatwad
      @Sirmeatwad 4 года назад

      @@lightningalex2235 looool it has easily the best library of the 3 consoles of its time with the most unique games you still to this day can't play any other versions of

  • @at433
    @at433 4 года назад +7

    1:55 MVG Said 423 instead of 243

  • @NintendoAutopsy
    @NintendoAutopsy 4 года назад

    I came for the knowledge and keep coming back for the music. Btw you look exactly like Bas Rutten.

  • @adaw2d3222
    @adaw2d3222 4 года назад

    Is the 1080i Xbox mode a modern type of full hd, or is it some sort of output upscale? I don't know how these things work.