The World's Strongest Man 2024: Final Thoughts and Stats + Facts
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Thanks to Loz, Liz and Monica. For making watching a spreadsheet fun.
and their buddies feeding their hidden devices
and an honorable mention/most improved award for Eddie Williams, he's clearly been putting in the work
Williams looked fantastic. He needs to be invited to more Giants Live events.
This is the third year in a row that a wsm rookie has won their group. Just shows like you guys said how important a qualifying pathway is
It shows how important not getting injured is.
My idea: Get rid of the stone off. Instead top 2 are in the finals and 3rd group place is awarded with an automatic invite to next years WSM. So there is an incentive to fight. That also means that top 3 of each group are the 15 guaranteed participants of next year, leaving 15 other open qualification spots for tournaments like OSG and Giants live.
And also: Create a list 2 months before competition with all the possible reserves and of course inform them about that ;) If someone drops out, the top of this list is the automatic replacement. The next athletes on that list are invited to the comp as back up reserves or equipment tester or just to be there and get some experience with the comp.
I like this too
Great post, well on point
2 weeks notice for WSM is a total joke, being mostly in America these days it takes a week to get used to the time difference. Stone off needs to be replaced with anything tbh, it’s not right to put that on an athlete who is already behind. Top 2 auto qualifying with the 3rd automatic qualifying for next year or have the groups bigger and top 3 go through. I want to see it as it happens not on a spreadsheet and I would be happy to pay good money for a year’s subscription
You need to get hold of the organisers. This is far better than what they're currently doing
Stoltman vs Hooper is what kieliskowski vs Licis never was
Well, it has the potential to be. Kiels and Martins just competed against eachother for longer that Mitch and even Tom has even been pros. This is the beginning of what might be the next Z vs. Shaw, if they can stay healthy.
@QueenToKingOfSpades thing is that rivalry only lasted maybe 3 comps
And it's only just started!
@@petershortland478which three were they?
They were set to be rivals but injuries got in the way. Hoping this lives upto to shaw Z
"now we're going to have a look at Tom Stoltman's stones" brilliant 😂
It was crazy to see so many Canadians in the finals, especially since it was without JF or Maxime.
Or in the WSM in general.
Oh Canada!
So happy to see Tom back on top where he deserves. I was also happy to see Evan on the podium as well. I don’t see anyone beating him any time soon. I think his mindset is locked on and his focus is laser sharp. Much love to you all from North Carolina, USA 🤙
I understand you saying Tom deserves to be WSM again and I agree, his hard work and mindset recently is the reason he won again. It’s not easy beating Hooper at any event! However, Tom needs to start performing at different events for him to go down as a great.
He has the capability to win any show but people will start to say that the WSM events suit him best.
@@nathanmoore7120 "for him to go down as great" if you don't think he's already earned legend status, you aren't paying attention.
Hoath is now dark horse
I can definitely see Mitch beating him.
10 , 9 , 8 had all done ESM and the stone off !!
Yeah, I noticed that. They really need to move ESM or athletes will skip it to avoid injury or just being knackered for WSM.
@@s1perry exactly, its totally devaluing ESM and just doesnt make any sense. Its meant to be a huge title, so it deserves a proper place in the calendar to reflect this.
The stone off is so ridiculous. It crushes any chance you have of getting good results in the final.
ESM needs to be an outside, cold weather show, in my mind. There's no reason why it can't be at a different point on the year, away from other major competitions.
@@kaplezedrummer24ify unless you are Tom!
Pa O'Dwyer keeps getting invites to WSM, cough, cough….
That dude stinks
He needs to do something more than be from Ireland.
He just keeps making stupid shorts saying "cunts"...should've invited the actual Ireland's strongest man since PA lost it
did he win Irelands Strongest Man? I know that's been a known invitation...he might be the current holder for that title.
It's a TV show. WSM probably has athletes fo random stuff to build footage. It was clear they didn't have enough live fan participation to do so😂
Andrade, Singleton and Hoath were amazing!
Andrade (The Mexican Eddie Hall) had a impressive comp.. We are now in the Tom & Hooper era!
Magnus won as a late invite!
Tom and Mitch done amazing , great to see Tom already seal his legacy with the 3rd , let’s see what next years brings
Thanks for the hardwork over the period. Been great fun. Favourite part of this Final Thoughts roundup has to be Liz saying "Now we're going to look at Tom Stoltman's stones". This is a very thorough roundup guys, wow. You don't get that kinda content elsewhere now, do you?
Some more stats:
End of an Era-> first WSM since 2007 without Brian Shaw
The 10th, 9th, and 8th place finishers all competed at ESM only a few weeks prior
Every single group this year had 2nd and 3rd place finishers close or tied on points
First WSM since 2004 with only 1 American finalist (2004 had none)
So based on what you're saying Pa O'Dwyer should not be invited to ANY contests
Another fun fact, this is the first time in 20 years there has been no Icelander in WSM as a competitor.
We need Vilius Jokuzys!!!! He's improving on deadlift and log. His speed and explosiveness is impressive!
@@rachelpark8700 agreed! Though he is from Lithuania just lives and trains and Iceland. So not sure how they would list him
@@monicabega3072 oh shoot I forgot about that! Missed seeing an athlete from Iceland this year. So much talent !
I honestly keep losing interest in WSM every year. Thank you for sharing stats and results, but by the time I'll be able to watch something I will know everything already. I understand it is a TV show but this format doesn't work anymore in 2024
What would help strongman really take off is a rivalry where the athletes don't like each other. Problem is, all the strongman athletes I've met are some of the nicest people lol
Thor and Eddie gave that dynamic, which brought some drama, but it's harder to support someone who isn't as nice as Tom!
I hated the Thor v Eddie thing. Love strongman, love boxing, I never watched their fight or pressers and unfollowed both of them. I even generally skip watching 2017-2018 when I'm binging WSM just because of the lack of sportsmanship. I sincerely hope I never see anything like that again. The only thing I can even think of that was like that was 1996 when Nathan Jones stomped off and wouldn't shake Magnus Ver Magnusson's hand when he qualified for the final.
I love that strongmen are cool people and get along well and cheer each other on, even when it means their opponent wins out. It's one of the things that I've always loved about the sport.
@@PhillipCalvin627But we learned a lot from that rivalry, specially the kind of people they've become, also a lot of corruption in the sport, whos side Giants Live is and so many other things.
Personally it changed the way I saw strongman for the dirt it has on, Wich is good, turning the blind eye is just harmful and not right for the sport and atlethes, Wich would never happend if Thor and Eddie stayed nice.
Strongman is like life, not all of it is nice, but aknowledging it helps you to become better... Sadly a lot of people quickly forgot all that because "it hurt the sport".
Also, the actual Thor vs Eddie Rivalry in strongman saw no unsportman moments between them for all the years it lasted. Thor threw tantrums in 2017, but, aimed at Colyn, not Eddie. The real moments of tension between them never happend until 2020
@@antoniocenteno1483 in WSM there wasn't any shade directed at Eddie, you're absolutely right but when Thor challenged Brian's reps in 2018 that really rubbed me the wrong way. I can't think of any year from 1977 onward where an athlete actually tried to squeeze out more points by directly challenging another athletes performance specifically out in the open like that. There have been moments where they challenge a judges call, in particular on overhead pressing events interestingly enough, like natural stones and the Viking press, especially in the Douglas Edmunds days. (Jamie Reeves, Flemming Rasmussen and Gerrit Badenhorst come to mind)
But what corruption specifically are we talking about? Thor knew he double dipped before they even held the event in 2017 and Colin even specifically talked to him about it before he ever even went out. He did the same thing in 2014 and laughed it off when I was rooting for him to win, no less. Colin called out Elbrus Nigmatullin for the same thing in 2005 except he didn't warn him or award him any of those reps, so he's been consistent with that rule and even gave Thor slack when he hadn't for others in the past. But 2017 Thor had a problem with it and he felt like he was being treated unfairly. If anything it should have been worse IMO.
As for the events being stacked in Eddie's favor, 4 out the the 6 events were the same as 2016 when Brian won his 4th title. The events in Thors winning year in 2018 could be argued even favored him specifically. Loading race, deadlift for reps, bus pull and overhead press were all events Thor slays. Mind you, I prefer those kinds of events. It just kinda sucked because I really wanted Thor to win WSM finally. No one deserved it more, ever, but when he finally did it, I didn't even really enjoy it.
I guess I should say I didn't really have a problem with Eddie until 2020ish. I was never a fan of his beyond his crazy drive to push through on static events but the whole beef definitely soured me towards him for a while. I actually like the more athletic events and years, so he was never my cup of tea. These days I do think he's a pretty funny guy on social media.
At this point, in fact I don't necessarily have a problem with either of them as it's been a while and they are both incredible athletes but at the time I didn't want anything to do with either of them.
Not trying to argue by the way, you are absolutely 100% justified in having your own opinion but just wanted to explain what I felt about all that mess.
So Tom joined the 3x WSM winners club.
They are:
1st Bill Kazmaier;
2nd Jon Páll Sigmarsson [won 4x];
3rd Magnús Ver Magnússon (won 4x];
4th Mariusz Pudzianowski [won 5x];
5th Žydrūnas Savickas [won 4x];
6th Brian Shaw [won 4x]; and last, but not least,
7th Tom Stoltman.
Just in awe of the knowledge from Liz. Loved the coverage this year, thank you both so much!
Great show this year....lots of new talent so well done on WSM for bringing them into the fold. Just curious what are the stats just comparing hooper and stoltman agaisnt each other?
Great Vid as always !!
Thank you for the epic coverage
this will feed my addiction a little bit. was starting to have Loz and Liz withdrawals 😂😂
A couple of days of quiet has been weird.
Great to see y'all, again. I've been hoping y'all were resting up ..
It was a great contest, hope the TV edit reflects that.
So happy this year was MUCH better for the attending fans. And the show was awesome!!!
When will it be a live event instead of world strongest spreadsheet. Thank you both for making it fun.
Do love all the stats. We need more stats and lists vids.
That should be a gold button guys!
Looking in great shape Loz 💪
What a year! New 🐐 💚💚💚
I agree with your thoughts on new athletes and the qualification set up. Oh and where's the GD damn live stream WSM.
Thank you, and for all your coverage.
I agree with your wish for more chances to qualify for the big events and younger athletes to come through. To be fair to Giants Live though, they are not a governing body, they are an entertainment company putting on entertainment events, and will want to control who they invite and do deals with athletes and choose athletes for specific events with the aim to put bums on seats or sell TV rights.
The stone off is great it just would be better if it was between 3rd places in each group facing off but think we need 1 more group
11:03 totally agree with that. Need a better qualifying system and new athletes should be given more chances to prove themselves.
Is this the reason bish got an invite? Or rather how did he earn his place?
The bottom line with the stone off is that it's a spectacle for TV and some fans love it but not fair or balanced for the athletes specifically. Which is also sort of representative of WSM as a whole. They have not adjusted to the fact that Strongman is a legitimate sport and still treat it as a circus sideshow. If they really cared about making the competition the best it could be they'd get rid of the stone off and rotate the last event in the finals so the entire show isn't eternally biased slightly toward good stone lifters.
Fuck yes!!! Preach Loz! 🤘
Well done guys
I’m completely with you on the stone off! And, as a keen television viewer I don’t think it adds anything to the production/drama. In fact, I’d go so far as to say it takes something away from the competition!
Also, I know the athletes will be wrecked going into the final event, but it is good to be reminded by you!
Also, also I don’t know if you’ll read this Loz and Liz, but I love what you do on this channel!!
100% agree on the pathways need to be clearer and correct invites sent.
How did Pa qualify?
Everyone there definitely earned their spots.
As a American i like how evan singleton has grown as a person and a competitor.
Both mitch and tom are phenomenal.
I don't like the stone off for the heats. But I would love them or some other comp to figure something out to make a stone off some event. Maybe put it in some side events like how they do the world record breaker things. Have people come in and go head to head. Something, idk. Because it really is cool, just not for heats in major comps.
I was waiting for this
Thank you Loz and Liz for having your virtual watch parties to make WSM fun when we can’t go or watch from home. I was there last year but couldn’t make it this time. The energy and atmosphere at WSM is amazing. So happy for Tom to come back and win his third 🏆 he is inspirational ! Mitch not giving up says a lot about his character. His daughter and family are proud
Congratulations to all the athletes doing well but beigger congratulations to the top 3 and I am very happy that Tom done it for the third time can’t wait to see this in Glasgow again
Never a weak show! Strongest line up for years!!!
IMO the stone off has to go. Simply because it favors stone lifters EVERY year. It should be switched up, this year stones, next year power stairs, year after..
Totally agree about the stone off, I don't like it either. You can be much better than the guy in third but they can beat you on the stone off and go into the final? That's just wrong. Furthermore, I think the stone off makes the final worse because then you have 5 athletes more fatigued and not at their best. How different might this final have been but for the stone off? We'll never know!
I'd much prefer the old system back whereby the top two progress to the final! 👍👍
Cant wait to welcome Tom back to Invergordon on you go big man ... #SCOTLASNDTHEBRAVE
Stone off, gd to watch but robs the athletes of ther potential in the final!👍✌️🏴
Love the Aunty Liz Facts
If you want to give the up and comers make the qualifier better and get rid of the groups and heats so everyone gets compared equally.
Stone Off is too draining, so system is currently flawed. Maybe have it only if 2nd and 3rd are within 5 points, for example.
World’s strongest brothers🌶️🌶️
Best man on that/those day(s) won!
Outro music SLAPS
Leader after 5 events should go through, the other 5 athletes do an extra event (not necessarily stones) and 2nd place after that event goes through. Still an advantage for winning the group but gets rid of upsets with huge point disparities
Interview Tom loz please
You guys are unquestionably the opinion leaders of big strongman fans and you have absolutely earned it. Always enjoy the content, thanks again!
First thing first.
Remove Colin Bryce from WSM and you remove the dark clouds hanging over the event, and everyone knows by now why this has to happen.
Second: The stone-off is the most stupid thing ever. If the qualifying events aren't in your favour (and we know Bryce' exploitation in this regard) you'll have to do an extra strength endurance event... this just screams out loud that we don't like fair play and/or we know nothing about human physiology.
Coming up with another qualifying system is easy, but it makes you wonder why it doesn't happen 🤔
Nice bideo
Sucks Thor won't be in WSM anymore. Would have been interesting to see where he'd finish.
Mind blowing that this is still not televised or streamed live
The stone off seems like a good incentive to not come in 2nd in the heats. If 2nd place automatically made it to the final, then the heats would be about trying to place 2nd and save energy for the final. The stone off adds incentive to come in 1st and adds incentive for the guys in 4th or 5th to struggle into 3rd place.
I thought the heats were more exciting to follow than the final. They should do finalist should get an invite the next year, 5 invites, then qualifiers. Maybe not those numbers exactly but something similar.
Totally agree that WSM need to invite the in form athletes- old has beens have names that people know and often draw in certain fans tho
Great video, thanks, with some great points.
I 100% agreed that all should qualify, my main point is that many time Mateusz is invited sometimes after not competing for a long time and being very poor like last year.
Stone off wise is that the first time it’s happens as I think Tom maybe have been top 2 after a stone off?
Massive props to the top 10 guys, it’s alway great to see the camaraderie behind the scenes on all their content, no excuses from Mitch and no quarter given from Tom..
I cannot wait for next year
You have to big names in there to be fair it’s a business.
@@mark4levbut if they are not fit and just there to collect a cheque ?
It's a shame Thor can't get on with the WSM team.
And rightfully. Is no a thing against WSM though but Giants Live organizers that for years threw shade at him and finally tried to stomp over his reputation with the build to his fight with Eddie the crab Hall.
Thor had already cuted ties with them before retiring in 2020, after all they did after that there is just no way Thor comes back.
And nevermind WSM is by far the weakest of the big shows nowadays, Thor knows there is not much prestige on it anymore, only sponsors and he already have them... So, yeah, he is better without them.
Do you think with extra investment they could do continental qualifications? I.e a tournament in Asia, Africa, Latin America, South East Asia/Australasia etc to whittle down the other 20 WSM competitors from a wider poonl of people? That would great to give every possible stronngman on the planet a chance.
Exciting to see what will happen with Ondrej Fojtu in the future.
The hard part with the top 10 finalists getting an auto invite is it’s a whole year out vs seeing how they do through the year. Also the last champions like licis,novikov and Thor(not likely but possible) can just participate since they’ve won. Then one person said the 3rd place in every group should get an invite. That’s 17/18 places off the bat and the rest of the year people fighting over 12-13 spots 😅
6min 7seconds. Was that Liz or Loz? Prrrrttttt
06:07 Lozy letting out a little cheeky one~~
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This was Aivars Šmaukstelis 1st time reaching the WSM finals - maybe you guys could talk about that a bit, as he's one of my favorites!
WSM 2020
Tom just looks absolutely fecking huge this year. He embodies what I think of when I think Stromgman. Tom appears to do well in the format of Worlds and I would love to see him win Brian’s show and win a couple of Arnolds so he has a balance in his career as I honestly think he’s going to be the GOAT. 3 WSM at 28 is crazy and I hope he stays injury free and learnt from the time he took off as he needs to be consistent in his growth and it’s a pleasure to see him do well. I started watching when Capes was competing and I loved watching Terry and yourself and obviously Eddie. For such a small country we have had some great competitors throughout time. The only thing I didn’t like this year was that we didn’t have Brian in the show and I know that he is going to continue to grow the sport for the better and I am a huge fan of his as well as our athletes. I wonder how far Bish would have gotten if he was injury free, he looked strong and fit to me and I think he would have placed quite high if he was 100%. It also has to be said that Eddie did a great job reporting on the show, I would of loved to see Brian with him doing this but I understand that Brian needs to concentrate on his comp and the businesses that he has. Strongman is in a great place right now
2:00 Here's a random idea: giving a lot of the guys at OSG an immediate spot at WSM might be a bit much but the comp could be used for reserves.
So the highest placing athlete from OSG (if they didn't qualify) would be reserve no. 1, next no. 2 and so on down the list.
In general, they could come up with some rules concerning where they get the additional athletes from after filling the spots for direct qualification.
Maybe look at the top 5s of Giants Lives, going down the list for each. At least something.
And if they want to, they can still keep 5 or so spots for wildcards, if they feel someone truly exceptional deserves the chance despite not qualifying otherwise.
Would have the added bonus for WSM themselves that if you have a clear system that people know the workings of, there should be much less complaining from all of us on that front ^^
5:40 Maybe that's just my perception but in the past it at least felt like yeah, the podium might be diverse but the final spots aren't necessarily so. This year had finalists from 7 different countries. Since after 2010 (also 7), it's been fewer than that for every year except 2018 (8).
7:45 Ask and you shall receive :D
As far back as Strongman Archives goes (I'm way too lazy too look up earlier comps), Big Z has never not won a log lift at WSM.
If you look at athletes' careers in general, there are certainly others who have almost never lost a certain event (or at least not in their prime) but they are few and far between.
4:30 😂😂😂
Feels like we need to get back to heavier events just about now.
It’s refreshing to see a rivalry with zero bad blood. It’s very uncommon in other sports
Tom on the Atlas Stones. Mark Felix on Hercules Hold. Mitch on Yoke. Mateuz on Odd's Tombstone. Novikov on Circus Dumbell for reps(?) Im trying to think of other examples of athletes and their basically unbeatable events. (Ues, Tom was beaten in Atlas Stones as they mention in the video, but im pretty sure thats when him and Evan dropped the Atlas Stone and it knocked the next one away. Not really a physical loss. Dame with Mark Felix, he was beaten by Iron Biby, but he admitted he wasn't trying. He doesn't always want to push the record)
Big Z with old oak log or any log hah
Mateusz with vehicle pulls
Shaw with max stone and keg toss
@@Kamyen316 YES!! Big Z with the original Austrian Oak!
If Tom and Mitch are the new Brian and Zydrunas, does that make Evan the new Thor?
So happy for evan to podium. Hopefully he can win one before it's over
They physics involved in several events favors the taller athlete, atlas stones is one of them. The same is true of the stone-offs. I would also say that a taller athlete has a longer distance to accelerate the bag/keg toss and a higher release point; therefore, an advantage.
wow its almost as if to be the strongest man in the world being taller than the other athletes is an advantage
And events like squat, elevated deadlift, conans tend to benefit smaller guys. So there's a give and take
It was epic
Thank you for the video 🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧😁
love u 2
I think about Lucas Hatton being unable to attend. I think he would've made another shake up in the action. The hype wasn't there, but it was a good WSM. Thanks to Big Loz and Auntie Liz.
Cant believe Big Tommy got his 3rd title before his 30. And his battle with Micth is quite recently. This could be the great rivalry just like Big Z vs Mariusz and Big Z vs Brian Shaw story once again 😳
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I think the stone off to make it to the final. However, if they were to have all 10 do it against one another to determine who the top five to go to the finals would be......that would be interesting. (I still hate the idea that half of the final competition had to do an entire event more than the half.
100% need a better system. Gl controlling the wsm feeder system currently hurts the sport. As colin has said it many times that it is too expensive to invite all international athletes to GL, hence u.k gets most spots. Imo there is quite a few regular GL competitors who should have to earn their spot again. Make space for the new guys who are performing better.
We want one hour interview
Tom and Mitch are the Zydrunas and Brian of today- 2 all time greats with so many more years to prove it
Maybe but the field now is much more competitive. The era of 2 guy being head and shoulders above everyone else is gone
Also, in terms of rivalries, this occurs due to a lack of competition that is on par with the two or three athletes that are supposed rivals.
Bill Kazmaier and Geoff Capes, and Magnus ver Magnusson and Jouko Ahola seemed to me more about actual rivalries (i.e. based on grudges). Whereas, Mariusz and Zydrunas, and Brian / Zydrunas / Thor seemed more about athletes far ahead of the pack.
I feel the same is true of Tom and Mitch. They drive each other to become better athletes, but there is simply no animosity in it to consider it a real 'rivalry''.
Disappointing hearing some people say, mich only lost because of the hand issues!! Tom won fair n Square...he beat who was there!!! Well done Tom 🏴
Mathematically that’s probably correct. If he doesn’t tear his hands open, he probably gets second in the Giant’s Medley (Evan was blazing fast), and that bumps Tom’s points down. The next three events are probably unaffected, but on deadlift, Mitch would likely win or tie for first, and get second on stones. That puts Mitch at about 55 or so and Tom about 51.
The catch is that injury is part of the game. Everyone else did the same event and faced the same risks. Mitch said himself he probably needs to do some more yard work to thicken up those callouses. While it was unexpected, it’s something that was unplanned for, while others one way or another (intentionally or not) were prepared for it.
So my point is, while Mitch is an exceptional athlete and COULD have won had the hand injury not happened, Tom’s experience and prep were the difference makers in a battle between two gifted strongmen, and he earned #3 unquestionably.
Hot take... unpopular opinion........ WSM is just the worlds strongest athlete. For years its has become more about moving and speed and timed events. Strength shouldn't be timed. You can either outlift everyone or you cannot. You are either stronger or you are not. Who can throw the heaviest thing the farthest or highest? Who can deadlift more? Who can squat more? Who can pick up the most heavy things and put them on top of this or that. Speed and time should not play a part.
This is my opinion. I am aware that it wins me no allies and will likely end in every other armchair strongman telling me why I am wrong. Strength is strength. Speed is not.
You're describing power lifting. The roots of strongman are functional strength (Husafell stone carry) and circus (spectacle). But set aside history. What feats of strength will get the largest television audience in the year 2024?
Get your point but if a strongman vs me had lets say a lightish farmers for time, something i could do, say 90kg per hand the stronger man will win?
@@aarons3014 what television? WSM isnt even on TV or id watch it. everyone else streams.
Strength is strength. you're either stronger than the other guys or you're not. and no im not talking about powerlifting. that sport is boring AF
@@djrmonix weight classes exist for a reason. no, timed events are just boring imo. sure if youre strong and fast you win but what if a guy is way stronger but not as fast? he is punished for being less athletic. but hes stronger, so you found the fastest strong guy... not the strongest guy.