Cherry picking comment was edited to remove some key details. Watching the whole interview he said that when the best club in the comp over the last three seasons are after what we are developing then we must be doing something right with our pathways.
Yeah man, your players wanting to leave and play for the best club in the comp is definitely proof of how good your pathways are. 😅 The parramatta delusion is alive and well.
@@TheBlackguard I'm more so pointing the hypocrisy of any club that over the past have taken our players, granted I'd rather they do go towards Parra, the Tiges or any development club like the Phins. Anywhere rather than the Roosters, Manly or Melbourne.
@@youchwb6005 why is it hypocritical for other clubs to buy talent from Parra? I’m a Penrith fan, we get so much talent whisked away. But to call it hypocritical? It’s just business.
@@TheBlackguard My point is Ryles is moaning about Panthers "cherry picking" Blaize Talagi. So that after all the players they have been taking off us over the years, is the hypocritical I'm referring to, which was pretty obvious.
Gutho is a big part of Ryles plans "immediately",... which means that Gutho's main value at this moment is creating transitional stability whilst players come and go (rebuild)...The leg speed is long gone but the competitive drive and ability to be a role model is still of high value... 14, not 6 is Gutho's future when a strike fullback signs on.....
In all honesty, I think Gutho could handle an edge, not in a conventional sense, but in a Gutho kind of way. It is hard to picture because it isn't meta. Ball playing second rowers are very effective at creating space for attack centers. Can he make the 20-25 tackles that must be made in that position? Who knows.
gutho can not be full back with his knees. its shown this year. in the middle is a stretch as braith said different position and alot more defensive work. he needs to go the the edges just like the morris twins, however they were in their positions and the wealth of experience helped them immensly
Eels fan here. Not a bad idea. You can have Brown as 9 or 1. Honestly not a bad idea. You could run brown at fullback honestly. Think about it.... Gutho LOVES touching the ball but never gets it as the fullback in the line unless it's in the red zone. At 6 he can run WAY more. Brown is the opposite, all the gifts in the world, doesn't want to touch the ball. Put him at fullback so he can occasionally touch the ball in attack like he does. It's honestly a near perfect idea.
@@haces348 The hypocrisy is astounding to the point of 10/10 for a dumb quote from Ryles. They have nabbed Ilongi from Panthers reserves who is a brilliant player. Not to mention over the past 5 years the players Parra has been taking away from Penrith's coffers, which helped them to a decider.
@@youchwb6005he wasn’t complaining or being hypocritical, he was just referencing Blaize being signed by Penrith as a testament to their junior pathways. He said it was a compliment and it shows the systems are there.
Braith is so funny he never has an opinion of his own its always what do we think of this and what do we think of that. what do you think mate do you dare speak for yourself?
I am a Canterbury Supporter and Parramatta should have been awarded the 2009 Premiership. In fact they should sue the NRL to award it to them. They didnt cheat like Melbourne and were the best side of 2009. 2009 is blanked but those players and the club 100% deserve it.The gold medals are re-alocated at the Olympics if cheating is found to be prevalent and the NRL should do the right thing and allow Parramatta to finally be awarded what is rightfully theirs.
We need to forget about competing and commence a rebuild I'd let everyone 27 or older go and commence a rebuild (letting Sanders go will prove to be the biggest mistake)
As a joint venture name dragons why would you sign a 30 year old.never ever I seen a club such a mess as this one.i think it's time to demerge this club.they don't work
I feel sorry for Gordo sitting in the middle of the crap you lot go on with, really… maybe the show should find some commentators who know what they’re taking about!!! Just watching your shorts frustrates me.
Cherry picking!?!? 😂 Please. Half the team are ex Pamthers (Cartwright, RCG, Hopgood, Tago• ) and stole our next fullback ilongoli but yeah... Penrith cherry picking 😂
I don't understand why everybody is trashing Gutho. He's NOT the problem at Parra! As a 1 he's better than Kennedy (Sharks), Sloan (Dragons), Tracey (Bulldogs), Rapana (Raiders), CNK (Warriors) and others... Besides speed he has everything (smart, leader of the defense, placement, involvement in the game...)
Just put gutho at centre if this new young bloke is as good as they say, gutho at left centre, will p right centre, id keep sivo. They have a great roster, just need dylan brown and the forwards to help Moses win that gf.
Incorrect, there were over 12 Parramatta juniors in the top 30 for this season. Plus, a lot of clubs out there have Parramatta juniors in their team. Eastern Suburbs record try scorer is a Parramatta junior.
@RugbyLeagueHistory we only blaize and this guy is on about cherry picking Junior Paulo - Raiders RCG - Panthers Bailey simonson - Raiders Mitchell moses - Tigers Maika sivo - came from the Panthers system Shaun Lane - manly and bulldogs Jake tago - Panthers Kelma tuilagi - manly On and on and on stop this BS Jason ryles you got iongi now from penrith
@@manmountain3205 Paulo and Moses are Parramatta juniors. Sivo was originally picked up from Gundagai and was unwanted at Penrith. Lane was a South Sydney junior, Tuilagi actually came through the Melbourne system and was unwanted by them, then went through Wests and Manly before getting to Parramatta. Same as Tago, he was unwanted by North Sydney, South Sydney and Penrith. He only played NRL this year because the club literally had no options, he was playing Ron Massey Cup when he got offered a contract.
To be fair, Penrith were a bit of a joke club before 2020. They weren't a successful team. Slightly better than Cronulla who came in during the same year.
@@RugbyLeagueHistory A lot better than the sharks, 2 wins before 2020, it took the sharks 49 years to pop their cherry and you guys have done nothing since the late 80s although the storm did cheat you out of the '09 GF. Anyway good luck for next year, can you imagine a parra dogs GF. They used to be epic, all of Sydney went nuts.
Cherry picking comment was edited to remove some key details. Watching the whole interview he said that when the best club in the comp over the last three seasons are after what we are developing then we must be doing something right with our pathways.
You think 360 has integrity?
Yeah man, your players wanting to leave and play for the best club in the comp is definitely proof of how good your pathways are. 😅
The parramatta delusion is alive and well.
@@TheBlackguard I'm more so pointing the hypocrisy of any club that over the past have taken our players, granted I'd rather they do go towards Parra, the Tiges or any development club like the Phins. Anywhere rather than the Roosters, Manly or Melbourne.
@@youchwb6005 why is it hypocritical for other clubs to buy talent from Parra? I’m a Penrith fan, we get so much talent whisked away. But to call it hypocritical? It’s just business.
@@TheBlackguard My point is Ryles is moaning about Panthers "cherry picking" Blaize Talagi. So that after all the players they have been taking off us over the years, is the hypocritical I'm referring to, which was pretty obvious.
Gutho is a big part of Ryles plans "immediately",... which means that Gutho's main value at this moment is creating transitional stability whilst players come and go (rebuild)...The leg speed is long gone but the competitive drive and ability to be a role model is still of high value... 14, not 6 is Gutho's future when a strike fullback signs on.....
If he's lucky
Bring back Hindy. He’s up for a new contract come November 1.
Gutho when fit was everywhere. Parra had a shocking year of injuries. Gutho will be great in any position.
Finally someone saying PARRA need speed
A new level of professionalism at parra knock us always have
I was never a fan of him as a player, never really heard from him as an assistant, but this sounded pretty solid
Good luck mate.
Time moves on
In all honesty, I think Gutho could handle an edge, not in a conventional sense, but in a Gutho kind of way. It is hard to picture because it isn't meta. Ball playing second rowers are very effective at creating space for attack centers.
Can he make the 20-25 tackles that must be made in that position? Who knows.
Ryles is a good talker
No he is not.
Anyone who keeps saying 'you know' is not too bright
@@markf3229 Bellamy is the ‘you know’ king.
Good talkers don’t make good coaches, look at Bellamy and Des hasler
@@AC26875
Well I rest my case 😎
@@haces348 Bellamy has a good accountant.
Anyone else think past players have sad lives. All they talk about is what happened when they played. Like get over it
gutho can not be full back with his knees. its shown this year. in the middle is a stretch as braith said different position and alot more defensive work. he needs to go the the edges just like the morris twins, however they were in their positions and the wealth of experience helped them immensly
Please give him time, do not sack him 1/2 years in.
Gutho to the bench prop rotation
Gutho to 5/8th. Like Lockyer, he needs his hands on the ball.
Gutherson and Lockyer in the same breath 💀💀💀💀
He can't defend at 6, will get found out
Eels fan here. Not a bad idea. You can have Brown as 9 or 1. Honestly not a bad idea. You could run brown at fullback honestly.
Think about it.... Gutho LOVES touching the ball but never gets it as the fullback in the line unless it's in the red zone. At 6 he can run WAY more. Brown is the opposite, all the gifts in the world, doesn't want to touch the ball. Put him at fullback so he can occasionally touch the ball in attack like he does. It's honestly a near perfect idea.
He’s a 14 now
Penrith cherry picking 😭😭😭 1st time they've signed anyone decent in years in Papali'i and Blaize. Not a penrith fan
in the full quote he says Penrith have the best nursery and the fact they cherry-picked Talagi is a complement
@haces348 why would they edit that out oh we know why to create a stir and i fell for it 🤦♂️🤦♂️ thanks mate
@@haces348 The hypocrisy is astounding to the point of 10/10 for a dumb quote from Ryles. They have nabbed Ilongi from Panthers reserves who is a brilliant player. Not to mention over the past 5 years the players Parra has been taking away from Penrith's coffers, which helped them to a decider.
still cherry picking regardless
@@youchwb6005he wasn’t complaining or being hypocritical, he was just referencing Blaize being signed by Penrith as a testament to their junior pathways. He said it was a compliment and it shows the systems are there.
Also some of the fans need to get over brad and embrace the change that is coming and give the guy a go
Chill out lads give the bloke a season or two
Yes Mitchell did, but can he play every week!!!
Totally agree gutho is a liability
Another year, same thing for parra. Nothing will change until the management change.
Was Barrett joking when he said gutho had 3 broken ribs?
Braith is so funny he never has an opinion of his own its always what do we think of this and what do we think of that. what do you think mate do you dare speak for yourself?
King Gutho is Orris favorite player
Gutho is the Man!!!!
he'll be sacked by the end of next year🤣
His contract ends in 2028 and he's got the next four years to not only lead Eels to the top 8 but a premiership.
@@joshuav.santos5220at the moment only two teams have won or probably win this year since 2020.
Doubt it. There's no coaches about as it is
You don't know Jason Ryles, and you clearly don't know what coaches he's worked under. He'll be a good coach I have no doubt.
I am a Canterbury Supporter and Parramatta should have been awarded the 2009 Premiership. In fact they should sue the NRL to award it to them. They didnt cheat like Melbourne and were the best side of 2009. 2009 is blanked but those players and the club 100% deserve it.The gold medals are re-alocated at the Olympics if cheating is found to be prevalent and the NRL should do the right thing and allow Parramatta to finally be awarded what is rightfully theirs.
Gutho is the best at milking penalties and flopping 😅
Braith, they can’t win a comp with or without Guthrie at fullback
Yes, they'll go from second last, to top of the bottom 4.
check the ladder this year again einstein
@@danfloros4267 Cry harder.
Cheesus these guys talk shlt
Is Anasta on crack , hopgood is the lock at the eels, to suggest Gutherson plays lock is ludicrous
Replace an origin lock?
Braith said he can’t see him playing it… Ryles himself said he might play there…
Agreed but Anasta didn’t say that to be fair
We need to forget about competing and commence a rebuild
I'd let everyone 27 or older go and commence a rebuild (letting Sanders go will prove to be the biggest mistake)
Gutho full back ON/HIM How will be in 9/13 he won't be captain anymore if he moved new fullback will be rebuild
So the reporter interviewing Rylas has like 10 kids and gets around like he is about to neck himself. Just for context.
As a joint venture name dragons why would you sign a 30 year old.never ever I seen a club such a mess as this one.i think it's time to demerge this club.they don't work
I feel sorry for Gordo sitting in the middle of the crap you lot go on with, really… maybe the show should find some commentators who know what they’re taking about!!! Just watching your shorts frustrates me.
Guthos future will be the wacky waiving inflatable tube man on the side line.
Cherry picking!?!? 😂 Please. Half the team are ex Pamthers (Cartwright, RCG, Hopgood, Tago• ) and stole our next fullback ilongoli but yeah... Penrith cherry picking 😂
Here come all the bandwagon panthers supporters
He’s there best player, turns up 9/10
Play Gutho at the centres
I don't understand why everybody is trashing Gutho. He's NOT the problem at Parra!
As a 1 he's better than Kennedy (Sharks), Sloan (Dragons), Tracey (Bulldogs), Rapana (Raiders), CNK (Warriors) and others...
Besides speed he has everything (smart, leader of the defense, placement, involvement in the game...)
Gutho is washed
They need better star players
Para should have kept Brad Arthur. the club going from bad to worse.
He would have still been Eels coach if Moses and Gutho were healthy all season.
Just put gutho at centre if this new young bloke is as good as they say, gutho at left centre, will p right centre, id keep sivo. They have a great roster, just need dylan brown and the forwards to help Moses win that gf.
Your joking right penrith cherry picking out of your backyard😂😂?? Your whole roster was picked from other clubs
To be honest, a lot of parramatta players are other clubs rejects
Half the NSW clubs take from Parra Juniors. A lot Premiership winners from the last 2 decades were Parra juniors.
Incorrect, there were over 12 Parramatta juniors in the top 30 for this season. Plus, a lot of clubs out there have Parramatta juniors in their team. Eastern Suburbs record try scorer is a Parramatta junior.
@RugbyLeagueHistory we only blaize and this guy is on about cherry picking
Junior Paulo - Raiders
RCG - Panthers
Bailey simonson - Raiders
Mitchell moses - Tigers
Maika sivo - came from the Panthers system
Shaun Lane - manly and bulldogs
Jake tago - Panthers
Kelma tuilagi - manly
On and on and on stop this BS Jason ryles you got iongi now from penrith
@@manmountain3205 Paulo and Moses are Parramatta juniors. Sivo was originally picked up from Gundagai and was unwanted at Penrith. Lane was a South Sydney junior, Tuilagi actually came through the Melbourne system and was unwanted by them, then went through Wests and Manly before getting to Parramatta. Same as Tago, he was unwanted by North Sydney, South Sydney and Penrith. He only played NRL this year because the club literally had no options, he was playing Ron Massey Cup when he got offered a contract.
Bulldog has no clue
Cherry picking 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Almost like ryles has no clue about nrl anymore
How many surfing clubs did Jason ruined
What a joke this club is 😂😂😂 as a panthers fan they ain’t winning nothing
To be fair, Penrith were a bit of a joke club before 2020. They weren't a successful team. Slightly better than Cronulla who came in during the same year.
@@RugbyLeagueHistory A lot better than the sharks, 2 wins before 2020, it took the sharks 49 years to pop their cherry and you guys have done nothing since the late 80s although the storm did cheat you out of the '09 GF. Anyway good luck for next year, can you imagine a parra dogs GF. They used to be epic, all of Sydney went nuts.
Word to the journos stop trying to making a positive story negative