It's Qld I mean south Qld sorry Brisbane.. the only team that is stable out of Qld is the the cowboys..I think Brisbane is a basket case in the office.. too many chiefs not enough stable hands.. too many outside influences, too worried about making people happy instead of building a group of kids to bring threw into the NRL.... They have nothing to bring other than a brand... Already went from grandfinal 15 mins away from winning to this debarcle now shows the club itself has no spine..... Knights, sharks, dragons, warriors how is it that these clubs have a better jr system then the Broncos because they put it back into the jr systems instead of buying everyone else's good players.....
If the broncos decided Kevie wasn’t the guy for the job then at least they’ve acted immediately. However the players really need to be smashed with accountability, because all of them played well below their best this year and you can blame the coach all you want, these are professionals who failed to perform, and it’s time the nrl adopted an NFL style salary system where a contract is 80% performance based and 20% guaranteed. Imagine the way they’d play if Walsh was on a $1,000,000 contract but only guaranteed $200,000. The rest is performance based. Tries, try assists, line break assists, line breaks and finals appearances. I’ve said it for a long time rugby league is a professional sport played with an amateur attitude. Excuses like “we just didn’t turn up today” or “we didn’t prepare well” are acceptable in rugby league but would have you cut in any major league around the world like the epl and nfl.
100% agree with this. Why should a player get the full $1m contract when they played terrible. This is done in the workforce why not in professional sport. Don't make the finals , sorry no bonus for you.
you talk like the broncos have integrity they got maguire on board first then they orchestrated the kangaroo court review just to make it look like they were doing it the right way instead of the skullduggerry that ensued much like at spuths the players are running the club walsh mann etc toxic environment will be successful next year or not , will have nothing to do with what maguire does the players will decide whether they wish to win or lose
@@SonnyListon-e3xwhich is exactly why I’m saying the nrl pay structure needs to resemble the nfl. Minimal guaranteed money and loads of performance based money. I’d be more than happy for every player in the game to make over a million a year. But it’s gotta be performance based.
No one buys a coach or player in 3 days. Anyone who thinks they haven’t been orchestrating this deal since at least round 20 is delusional . Once it was obvious they were not getting to the finals kevvie was done and the negotiations with Madge began
Why would the Broncos CEO say that Yep Kevs our man in 2025, then made up review comes out backflips on decision?. Remember when the Broncos signed a coach named Siebold on a long term deal... I want to be proven wrong with McGuire but if the Broncos don’t make even the Semis in 2025/26 Do you start looking for another coach. Those Broncos on big pay packets better live up to potential.
Yep the players need to be held far more accountable, if the club doesn’t feel that Kevin is the man it’s the right call to move on. However I’d also argue to many people have claimed he’s a bad coach. He took us from 16th to 12th to 2nd in 3 years that’s by any standard a success. He slipped back to 12th this year and sackings happen when you go from 2-12. I suspect Kevie is a bit too much of a good guy and like Alfie wants to be mates with the players. Where as what that locker room needs is a boss. Hopefully Madge is that guy and hopefully he encourages an exciting brand of rugby league like Kevin did in the grand final run.
NO, the Broncos have got Maguire in to change their culture and toughen them up. Saying anything less than semis next year and he I sacked is silly. I would say anything less than a premiership within 3 years will get him sacked and that would be fair enough.
Gould did a 'review' into the Dragons some years ago and no one heard the result of that. Roy and HG have put together a search party to try and find it.
Maybe, but things can turn around pretty quickly when you have the talent. Melbourne got blown out twice in the Finals last year, now they're in a Grand Final. Penrith have a big ? next year with Luai leaving - I know the Panthers have the best juniors pathway system in the comp, but I think they'll miss Luai more than they realise. Brisbane still have a mountain of work to do, starting with Walsh being every bit the defensive turnstile as Darius Boyd.
@@rc0ll18 the big thing is melbourne and panthers are like the crusaders rugby team the whole organisation from the ground up demands and expects success Melbourne are not the greatest team on paper but they are such a professional outfit that the players they recruit ( often not even in the top team of their previous clubs like katoa and blore ) lift and become a greater player broncos are a long long way from that and they have now lost the old boys real support and they have no real leaders on the field who is a bronco leader ? walsh ? mann? carrigan ? in between drunken wrestling with his halback Walsh has not been anywhere near consistent mann went from a humble player happy to be there to a prima donba Broncos are minimum 3 years away from anywhere near winning the comp they are lacking big men up front and they dont play as a team
@@rashneelwalla380nah rubbish he’s a top bloke from a fantastic family. Is he a winner? Sure he has 2 more rings than even Cleary but he’s not a bad bloke
Broncos failure Wasn’t Kevin fault Things went down hill after state of origin They had a lot of players injured this year They don’t have the depth they use to have a monopoly on I went to the sharks game at Suncorp and when they called out the team was like who are these blokes Some didn’t even have pictures Also off the back of a gf a lot of teams study your players identify weakness A lot of the broncos players are instinctual intuitive players that can’t or struggle making adjustments to their gameplay I think putting that on Kevin was bs If they want to go a different direction with mark that’s what they should’ve said and it’s nothing against Kevin he has been a great player and coach but we believe that mark is the man we need moving forward from this point and wish Kevin all the best at the dolphins 😝😅
On the criteria they used to sack Walters, every coach in league outside the top 2 should be sacked. Ridiculous decision - that bent CEO that organised the whole charade should be sacked instead.
Mate Kevvie was clearly not up to it. Our success last year was on the back of our assistant coaches who implemented actual game plans. This year, in games where tough decisions needed to be made (bulldogs spreading the ball early on every set) absolutely no tactical changes were made and we got smashed. Then for the last two weeks he says ‘we will play finals’ and the players dished up what they did, they looked confused and had no idea what to do. Kevvie is a good bloke but clearly not a good coach, you’ve got absolutely no idea.
What would be different Gus is that probably two players would not leave the Broncos for other clubs and another nine players spend a good part of the season injured on the sidelines, which is exactly what happened this year. All of them star players. What's happened is the playing group surrendered to the constant disruptions and went into self preservation mode. But nobody is talking about them, it's all Kevvies fault. Maguire isn't going to make one shred of difference. God luck with it Madge you're going to need it. Broncos will end next season in the bottom half of the ladder for the same reason, injuries and malcontenet at the club, so what then ?
I remember when he coached Origin, and he decided not to pick Billy Slater, and while announcing it, he started crying. Like it or not, battle hardened players see that as a weakness, and maybe even subconsciously. A coach can't have that much emotion, especially on display publicly. You can't question his passion, but he was never going to last.
It was the Board that let three players go from last year. From Day one they didn't have the same comradery on the field and it got worse from there especially post State of origin. Why didn't some of the players heads roll if this "REVIEW" was Rigi Didge. Every one knows these SO called reviews are a Back Engineered decision making back up excuse ( None of it is the Boards Fault). If management had the finger on the pulse and actually knew what was going on in their Roster they shouldn't need this kind of a Doctored excuse. Look at History this Kind of deal doesn't happen in days or even a few weeks. Look at the Broncos performances before and after State of origin.
Goodluck to Madge player managing Reece Walsh is going to be one to watch...either he goes soft on him and let's him run rings around the club or he gets Walsh performing like his big money tag demands!
I think Walsh is fine people forget that the same issues with Walsh this year happened with Joey in 1996 and benji in 06 and any number of players through the history that became the face of the game before they were ready.
Maguire inherits all of Walters hard work, nice gig, Kev does all the hard work, and this joker walks in to a super talented team, wins a cup or 2, now they just need to find better management and they will be all set.
Spies in the Queensland camp i don’t like it and I’m sure a lot don’t I hate the bias of NSW with referees teams media management and the list goes on keep QLD teams QLD imagine the drama and carry on if it was a Qld coach in NSW
Rhys Walsh gets K’O’d origin this series. Macguire does a Micheal Hagan coaching Newcastle job and asks Rhys Walsh and Pat Carrigan to step down from origin next year to focus on the team. Lol. You are off your head mate. Wayne coaching south’s, Newcastle, saints, hagan coaching Newcastle, nobody said a peep. We even let the greatest queensland coach of all time coach NSW, the one and only Craig Bellamy.
Players need to be accountable, maybe more than the coach. The coach isn't on the field missing tackles, dropping the ball and making mistakes. They are being paid the BIG DOLLARS to perform. In the majority of these decisions the Coach is made the scapegoat.
With those players and resources I'd say he's a potential 10 year coach. I'm mean he won a comp at South Sydney for crying out loud and that mob are gutless wonders.
@@johnjarvis2470 He didn't have Burgess or Inglis at the tigers though. I doubt if even Craig Bellemy could have guided the Tigers into the 8 over the last decade. My point is a good coach can turn a talented team into a force but they do still need a good roster.
Nathan Cleary ripped the heart out of that entire club via their bumholes!!!!! Its very difficult to play footy minus a heart and with a leaky bumhole.
I resect Gould and agree with almost everything he says but he lost me at the end when he suggested McGuire set out to use the blues job as a stepping stone to the Broncos. No way
@multioptioned What about Des Hasler and Todd Payton? Are they traitors? Wayne Bennet coached Canberra, Souths, the Dragons and Newcastle. Won premierships. What your point?
By round 10 it was obvious that the Broncos weren't going to make the 8. They smashed poor teams but were soundly beaten every time they came up against the Storm, Panthers, Sharks and Roosters (who outplayed them in Las Vegas when they should have been primed to at least compete). When Kevvie started to blame Origin for their form, I knew he was in denial, they were playing below Par well before Origin and if you look at the Origin series it was more often a Bronco that let the Maroons down with a poor pass, missed tackle or poor discipline. The Grand Final loss was also of their own doing. Short drop outs when they were in front, just handed the Panthers the game. One resulted in 6 points and Cleary forcing the other into Touch on the full gave them a penalty and the ball back after it was tied up. Did those tactics come for Kevvie? On top of this he has let a myriad of high achieving players go...Farnworth being one, whose form has only got better. I'll bet letting Hetherington go will be another that comes back to bite them next season. I doubt Maguire will make much difference.
Whether or not theyd already made up their mind, Kevvie was hardly done dirty. The way the team played this year was abysmal, and im not talking about losing, but having absolutely 0 defensive structures. As a die hard broncs fan and a huge fan of Kev, im glad they didnt drag it out next yr. Im not sold on Madge but im extremely happy they got it over with so effectively.
It was a chance for the Broncs to get a one of the best coaches in the League so they went and got him, if they had not another club would have so they moved fast.
Ppl claim walsh cant tackle they said the same thing about the defence buster boyd. But justw sit next year on defence reece will go from lightening to recee frightening
I've been a Bronco supporter since they got into the comp. This team, is full of wanna bee's. many of the lads just didnt look like they cared this year. Many of them looked distant..not even interested, others just played too hard, overplaying too often.. Kev got arsed.. 100%. Someo f these players require the same treatment in my H.O.
Why is the coach always the fall guy. Broncos have got a lot of high profile players who are on great money who aren't performing. How about u start looking at a few of them.
I think he's better out of it. Those players aren't performing, and the coach always gets the blame. Impossible to satisfy the expectations when that happened.
Talk about desperation in signing madge , coaches graveyard at the Broncs , RIP in MADGE 2025 - 2027. Take a leaf out of the Lions playbook , same coach for the last 8 years , lost the 2023 GF and ran 5th in 2024 and won the GF. 18 years without a GF win, the Broncos need to extend the reveiw and do a root cause because something is deeply wrong at the club. Hey lets remove the coach he has to be the problem , right😂
It's a player lazy attitude problem and still getting paid whether they perform or not. Pay should be base wage with performance bonus then they might make an effort. They all want the SOO gig bc they get paid extra per game.
The Lions have been consistently in the top for since Fagan took over as coach. They went from nothings to top 4 in two seasons and have consistently remained there. The Broncos went back terribly this year and if you watched a post game press conference Kev looked almost witless as to what was the reason. That does not instill any confidence in the players. He lost the dressing room, and he knew it, and it was embittering him. The jovial funny guy often has a lot riding under the surface. I liked Kev as coach but this year was bad. Management made the right decision. The team was going backwards fast.
...indeed...the players failed the coach, and the management not able to provide strong, fast more athletics, hard-headed players are more to blame for the Broncos demise! Performance base salary is the way to go... work your butts off, as many of us do to pay bills... and the greater reward is there...easy money.. lousy players... With Kevie gone, Allan will follow, he has to, there is nothing of the good Broncos left there...
@@6t7ghost How can you have facts for something you're predicting to happen in the future? I'd be surprised if Reynolds even makes it through the season, he's cooked. You seem really angry, are you ok?
I'm not suggesting anything about the Brisbane review process. However QR codes aren't inherently anonymous especially if on the players own devices. The leaking of this stuff, St George did it recently and lost me as a fan of 65 years. This is private stuff. Bad form
How about the Broncos players being held responsible for what happened this season??? Maguire will make ZERO difference if the players don’t step up!!! Walsh on a million.. worth half that!!!
For channel nine to stand down Gus Gould for the GF is a absolute disgrace i like his input of the games and when it comes down to it GUS is a rugby league fan just like the rest of us show abit of respect for the old bloke 💯 percent yeah sure he's opinionated but aren't we All
Lol. The broncos era is over. Too many other queensland teams to spread the money out evenly and fairly. They don’t have this huge advantage over the comp anymore. The broncos will forever suck from this moment on. And I’m all for it.
Performance incentives would work but not at 200k guaranteed. Who would play the sport? We're already one of the only high level professional sports globally where most of the top income earners still can't even afford property in the suburbs they play in (If they're in the big cities). You expect a professional athlete can have pick of property, but take a guy on 700k. After taxes, management etc they're only on around 350k. Say the average career is 8 years, that's 2.8mill over 8 years. Median house price in Sydney is 1.6mill, meaning that maybe a top athlete can pay off a very average house by the end of their career. Kind of embarrassing in comparison to other major sports (And the other side of the equation as to why performance isn't as high as the NFL).
My understanding is NFL pay is 20% base and 80% performance bonus. Only way to make some NRL players put in effort is a performance bonus bc some players are on $800k/ year doing nothing on the field. House prices is not the NRL problem, they don't have to make sure players can buy a house. Its a job like everyone else. If they want 600k instead, then perform on the field and get your bonus. Most people would give their right arm to earn $350k/year. Manager fees are part of the job. That's how they get a contract. If they don't like it do the negotiating themselves. Let's go back to the era where players had full time jobs doing other things and then played on the weekend. At least those players wanted to play the game.
@jodiealldridge1547 in that era where players had jobs, weren't they on match payments where winning was worth much more money than losing? Money has to be used as an incentive.
I call BS on the quick & immediate replacement of Kevie within 24hours. Every club has reviews annually regarless of their position on the ladder. Players and coach were accountable at the Bronco's ... Lets face it the issues that are evident with players behaviour on / off and certainly after the end of the season are interesting.
Dolphins,Cowboys, Titans and Storms have Depleted the Queensland market of talents which Broncs used to solely enjoy years gone past.... Broncs do your own pathway and nursery..... Look @ Panthers ......
The broncos are a losing team club, everything about the Bronx smells…..CEO of Bronx sacked 3 coaches…..maybe time for him to go…..the whole culture at the Bronx smells…..I was a fan,,,,not anymore
They made the finals last year if you knew it was going to happen because of the performance this year then every coach that didn’t make the top 8 should be fired but I’m hearing crickets from you. When did Ricky last make the finals yet his job is safe.
The problem is there’s no legitimate halfback. Mam is a running 5/8 and Walsh is a running fullback who can ball play. Unless they get a hooker who can do all the organising from dummy half they can’t really do it.
Ummmm.... what? Yeah good like tryna find a 7 you need a 7. Ezra isn't ready, you need Reynolds to be preliminary final team also playing 2 inexperienced halves? Yeah going to go from preliminary final in my opinion with reyonalds with not making the finals at all
Ezra’s not a 7 , Walsh can’t tackle at fullback so imaging him in the front line piakuri offers nothing as a player broncos won’t be able to keep Staggs or Cobbo one will go
6 coaches in 10 years. Same clown who threw kev under the bus will do the same to madge when he starts getting tough with them. If there is no loyalty to a guy who gets you to a grand slam final sure as hell wont be any to madge. Coach isnt the problem, front office and lack of quality leaders in the squad is.
Brisbane Broncos have a management problem not a coach problem
Agreed .
It's Qld I mean south Qld sorry Brisbane.. the only team that is stable out of Qld is the the cowboys..I think Brisbane is a basket case in the office.. too many chiefs not enough stable hands.. too many outside influences, too worried about making people happy instead of building a group of kids to bring threw into the NRL.... They have nothing to bring other than a brand... Already went from grandfinal 15 mins away from winning to this debarcle now shows the club itself has no spine..... Knights, sharks, dragons, warriors how is it that these clubs have a better jr system then the Broncos because they put it back into the jr systems instead of buying everyone else's good players.....
100% spot on correct 👌 👏
You know this how?
Wayne figured that out years ago.
If the broncos decided Kevie wasn’t the guy for the job then at least they’ve acted immediately. However the players really need to be smashed with accountability, because all of them played well below their best this year and you can blame the coach all you want, these are professionals who failed to perform, and it’s time the nrl adopted an NFL style salary system where a contract is 80% performance based and 20% guaranteed. Imagine the way they’d play if Walsh was on a $1,000,000 contract but only guaranteed $200,000. The rest is performance based. Tries, try assists, line break assists, line breaks and finals appearances. I’ve said it for a long time rugby league is a professional sport played with an amateur attitude. Excuses like “we just didn’t turn up today” or “we didn’t prepare well” are acceptable in rugby league but would have you cut in any major league around the world like the epl and nfl.
Correct. The Broncos came into 2024 acting like they're the Chicago Bulls with 5 rings. They deserved to be humbled.
100% agree with this. Why should a player get the full $1m contract when they played terrible. This is done in the workforce why not in professional sport. Don't make the finals , sorry no bonus for you.
you talk like the broncos have integrity
they got maguire on board first then they orchestrated the kangaroo court review just to make it look like they were doing it the right way instead of the skullduggerry that ensued
much like at spuths the players are running the club
walsh
mann
etc
toxic environment
will be successful next year or not , will have nothing to do with what maguire does
the players will decide whether they wish to win or lose
@@SonnyListon-e3xwhich is exactly why I’m saying the nrl pay structure needs to resemble the nfl. Minimal guaranteed money and loads of performance based money. I’d be more than happy for every player in the game to make over a million a year. But it’s gotta be performance based.
@@SonnyListon-e3x mate beautifully said !!!
No one buys a coach or player in 3 days. Anyone who thinks they haven’t been orchestrating this deal since at least round 20 is delusional . Once it was obvious they were not getting to the finals kevvie was done and the negotiations with Madge began
I think Gus hit the nail on the head in his very last statement
The deal was done well over a month ago, lets not kid anyone please.
Kevin is tight with the old boys. I think they did it this way to avoid the confrontation.
Nahoo noo
Why would the Broncos CEO say that Yep Kevs our man in 2025, then made up review comes out backflips on decision?. Remember when the Broncos signed a coach named Siebold on a long term deal... I want to be proven wrong with McGuire but if the Broncos don’t make even the Semis in 2025/26 Do you start looking for another coach. Those Broncos on big pay packets better live up to potential.
Yep the players need to be held far more accountable, if the club doesn’t feel that Kevin is the man it’s the right call to move on. However I’d also argue to many people have claimed he’s a bad coach. He took us from 16th to 12th to 2nd in 3 years that’s by any standard a success. He slipped back to 12th this year and sackings happen when you go from 2-12. I suspect Kevie is a bit too much of a good guy and like Alfie wants to be mates with the players. Where as what that locker room needs is a boss. Hopefully Madge is that guy and hopefully he encourages an exciting brand of rugby league like Kevin did in the grand final run.
Because he is a coward is why and a hater
NO, the Broncos have got Maguire in to change their culture and toughen them up. Saying anything less than semis next year and he I sacked is silly. I would say anything less than a premiership within 3 years will get him sacked and that would be fair enough.
Let’s get serious, Madge was probably the coach from round 22 after the Broncs got fisted by the Titans.
I don't think that madge can help the Broncos much, it will be a dud.
Based on what
@@Knightmair19 Based on the fact that the players dropped their bundle One final wonders
Panthers took their soul
Sacked from 2 clubs😂
Walked out on 2 representative teams😂
Madge might make It to rd 20 next year🤣
He Coached NSW against a QLD side without Munster, Tino, Flegler and Gilbert.
Best explanation from Gus!
Gould did a 'review' into the Dragons some years ago and no one heard the result of that. Roy and HG have put together a search party to try and find it.
No chance of winning a premiership anytime soon, still miles off storm panthers
its just that they are not a team unit like panther or bronco
and never will be for a long time
Maybe, but things can turn around pretty quickly when you have the talent. Melbourne got blown out twice in the Finals last year, now they're in a Grand Final. Penrith have a big ? next year with Luai leaving - I know the Panthers have the best juniors pathway system in the comp, but I think they'll miss Luai more than they realise.
Brisbane still have a mountain of work to do, starting with Walsh being every bit the defensive turnstile as Darius Boyd.
@@rc0ll18
the big thing is
melbourne and panthers are like the crusaders rugby team
the whole organisation from the ground up demands and expects success
Melbourne are not the greatest team on paper but they are such a professional outfit that the players they recruit ( often not even in the top team of their previous clubs like katoa and blore ) lift and become a greater player
broncos are a long long way from that
and they have now lost the old boys real support
and they have no real leaders on the field
who is a bronco leader ?
walsh ?
mann?
carrigan ? in between drunken wrestling with his halback
Walsh has not been anywhere near consistent
mann went from a humble player happy to be there to a prima donba
Broncos are minimum 3 years away from anywhere near winning the comp
they are lacking big men up front and they dont play as a team
Forgot to mention too Bennett going back to Souths too
storm
Kev is a great guy , ordinary coach
Ordinary bloke too, ask his staff
@@rashneelwalla380nah rubbish he’s a top bloke from a fantastic family. Is he a winner? Sure he has 2 more rings than even Cleary but he’s not a bad bloke
Bronx fans just be happy yous didn’t end up with Trent Barrett take it from a Dogs fan. If your boys buy in Bronx will be top 4 with that roster.
Exactly I wouldn’t let Barrett take my U9 school boys
Broncos failure
Wasn’t Kevin fault
Things went down hill after state of origin
They had a lot of players injured this year
They don’t have the depth they use to have a monopoly on
I went to the sharks game at Suncorp and when they called out the team was like who are these blokes
Some didn’t even have pictures
Also off the back of a gf a lot of teams study your players identify weakness
A lot of the broncos players are instinctual intuitive players that can’t or struggle making adjustments to their gameplay
I think putting that on Kevin was bs
If they want to go a different direction with mark that’s what they should’ve said and it’s nothing against Kevin he has been a great player and coach but we believe that mark is the man we need moving forward from this point and wish Kevin all the best at the dolphins 😝😅
Well we will see next season if it was the coach or players
On the criteria they used to sack Walters, every coach in league outside the top 2 should be sacked. Ridiculous decision - that bent CEO that organised the whole charade should be sacked instead.
@@UK100Adam This man speaks the truth. He may pass
Mate Kevvie was clearly not up to it. Our success last year was on the back of our assistant coaches who implemented actual game plans. This year, in games where tough decisions needed to be made (bulldogs spreading the ball early on every set) absolutely no tactical changes were made and we got smashed. Then for the last two weeks he says ‘we will play finals’ and the players dished up what they did, they looked confused and had no idea what to do. Kevvie is a good bloke but clearly not a good coach, you’ve got absolutely no idea.
Nobody can coach the Broncos without constant meddling from the Board. They cant help themselves
What would be different Gus is that probably two players would not leave the Broncos for other clubs and another nine players spend a good part of the season injured on the sidelines, which is exactly what happened this year. All of them star players. What's happened is the playing group surrendered to the constant disruptions and went into self preservation mode. But nobody is talking about them, it's all Kevvies fault. Maguire isn't going to make one shred of difference. God luck with it Madge you're going to need it. Broncos will end next season in the bottom half of the ladder for the same reason, injuries and malcontenet at the club, so what then ?
I do felt Sorry for Kevin Walters its not his fault its his players not the coach. Broncos team needs attitude with discipline.
This was planned in late may early June, I saw Maguire doing hilll sprints in broncos kit in brisbane at that time
I'm a big fan of Michael Mcguire. He's clearly the favorite for this coaching appointment and I congratulate him if and when it's confirmed.
It wasnt just the players that were reviewed ,the staff were as well bedal said
Bro everyone needs to settle down, the gronkos are a mess, no one aside from Ivan cleary or Bellamy would be able to fix that disaster in Brisbane
I remember when he coached Origin, and he decided not to pick Billy Slater, and while announcing it, he started crying. Like it or not, battle hardened players see that as a weakness, and maybe even subconsciously. A coach can't have that much emotion, especially on display publicly. You can't question his passion, but he was never going to last.
It was the Board that let three players go from last year.
From Day one they didn't have the same comradery on the field and it got worse from there especially post State of origin.
Why didn't some of the players heads roll if this "REVIEW" was Rigi Didge.
Every one knows these SO called reviews are a Back Engineered decision making back up excuse ( None of it is the Boards Fault).
If management had the finger on the pulse and actually knew what was going on in their Roster they shouldn't need this kind of a Doctored excuse.
Look at History this Kind of deal doesn't happen in days or even a few weeks.
Look at the Broncos performances before and after State of origin.
Goodluck to Madge player managing Reece Walsh is going to be one to watch...either he goes soft on him and let's him run rings around the club or he gets Walsh performing like his big money tag demands!
I think Walsh is fine people forget that the same issues with Walsh this year happened with Joey in 1996 and benji in 06 and any number of players through the history that became the face of the game before they were ready.
Maguire inherits all of Walters hard work, nice gig, Kev does all the hard work, and this joker walks in to a super talented team, wins a cup or 2, now they just need to find better management and they will be all set.
Laurie daley deserves to coach nsw again.
Based on?
I agree
@@shauntaylor9503he coached our greatest ever series win in 2014 and deserves a crack when the teams are even
@@shauntaylor9503 daley coached against Queensland teams who were stacked full of greats. He was very unlucky to not have won more series.
Peter sterling
Spies in the Queensland camp i don’t like it and I’m sure a lot don’t I hate the bias of NSW with referees teams media management and the list goes on keep QLD teams QLD imagine the drama and carry on if it was a Qld coach in NSW
Rhys Walsh gets K’O’d origin this series. Macguire does a Micheal Hagan coaching Newcastle job and asks Rhys Walsh and Pat Carrigan to step down from origin next year to focus on the team. Lol. You are off your head mate.
Wayne coaching south’s, Newcastle, saints, hagan coaching Newcastle, nobody said a peep. We even let the greatest queensland coach of all time coach NSW, the one and only Craig Bellamy.
Bennett has been at Rabbits and Dragons and now going back to the Rabbits. Bennett was a Qld coach.
Let this be a lesson to you all. Never trust a bloke named David, Dave or D-train.
Players need to be accountable, maybe more than the coach. The coach isn't on the field missing tackles, dropping the ball and making mistakes. They are being paid the BIG DOLLARS to perform. In the majority of these decisions the Coach is made the scapegoat.
I wonder how long this bloke will last sacked by 2 clubs so far 😂
With those players and resources I'd say he's a potential 10 year coach. I'm mean he won a comp at South Sydney for crying out loud and that mob are gutless wonders.
@@thygfr also took tigers all the way to the spoon
@@johnjarvis2470 He didn't have Burgess or Inglis at the tigers though. I doubt if even Craig Bellemy could have guided the Tigers into the 8 over the last decade. My point is a good coach can turn a talented team into a force but they do still need a good roster.
Nathan Cleary ripped the heart out of that entire club via their bumholes!!!!!
Its very difficult to play footy minus a heart and with a leaky bumhole.
Wasn’t even Cleary it was those ridiculous short dropouts. If Brisbane kicks deep in every drop out. They win convincingly
@@Giveme1goodreason
I'm pretty sure I saw Cleary put his team on his back and begin extracting hearts via bumholes.
I resect Gould and agree with almost everything he says but he lost me at the end when he suggested McGuire set out to use the blues job as a stepping stone to the Broncos. No way
As an nsw supporter, I honestly would label Madge as a traitor
Like most people, including coaches and players, their loyalty is only to 💰
@multioptioned What about Des Hasler and Todd Payton? Are they traitors?
Wayne Bennet coached Canberra, Souths, the Dragons and Newcastle. Won premierships. What your point?
@@kw5732 they where all in nsw until he coached the broncos, it’s not the same thing, he didn’t coach qld to a victory then go coach south’s did he?
You are deluded or very naive. NRL season=24 games, SOO=3 games.
@@cheesus4688 Yeah he did.
By round 10 it was obvious that the Broncos weren't going to make the 8. They smashed poor teams but were soundly beaten every time they came up against the Storm, Panthers, Sharks and Roosters (who outplayed them in Las Vegas when they should have been primed to at least compete).
When Kevvie started to blame Origin for their form, I knew he was in denial, they were playing below Par well before Origin and if you look at the Origin series it was more often a Bronco that let the Maroons down with a poor pass, missed tackle or poor discipline.
The Grand Final loss was also of their own doing. Short drop outs when they were in front, just handed the Panthers the game. One resulted in 6 points and Cleary forcing the other into Touch on the full gave them a penalty and the ball back after it was tied up. Did those tactics come for Kevvie?
On top of this he has let a myriad of high achieving players go...Farnworth being one, whose form has only got better. I'll bet letting Hetherington go will be another that comes back to bite them next season.
I doubt Maguire will make much difference.
Whether or not theyd already made up their mind, Kevvie was hardly done dirty. The way the team played this year was abysmal, and im not talking about losing, but having absolutely 0 defensive structures. As a die hard broncs fan and a huge fan of Kev, im glad they didnt drag it out next yr. Im not sold on Madge but im extremely happy they got it over with so effectively.
now Queensland wil go back to winning for 10 more years🤦🏾♂️
Hope goes well for broncs n madge. Hes been good at kiwis so i like em.
It was a chance for the Broncs to get a one of the best coaches in the League so they went and got him, if they had not another club would have so they moved fast.
Walsh will be crapping his pants at the thought of Madge coaching him…Madge is the toughest task master out there
The broncos heart and sole has left the building enough said
Ppl claim walsh cant tackle they said the same thing about the defence buster boyd. But justw sit next year on defence reece will go from lightening to recee frightening
Strengthen the Broncos, weaken the Blues, everyone wins
I've been a Bronco supporter since they got into the comp. This team, is full of wanna bee's. many of the lads just didnt look like they cared this year. Many of them looked distant..not even interested, others just played too hard, overplaying too often.. Kev got arsed.. 100%. Someo f these players require the same treatment in my H.O.
Why is the coach always the fall guy.
Broncos have got a lot of high profile players who are on great money who aren't performing.
How about u start looking at a few of them.
I always rated Neil Henry as a coach. I'm surprised he didn't get another gig after the Cowboys!🤔
Laurie Daily??? The bloke is 25 years behind where a coach of origin needs to be
Ask any qlder they’ll tell you he is NSW best ever half though. The Wally Lewis of NSW
I think he's better out of it. Those players aren't performing, and the coach always gets the blame. Impossible to satisfy the expectations when that happened.
McGuire new coach?????, bye bye dear broncos. I'm moving teams. DOLPHINS 🐬 IT IS.
Nobody expected Walters to be sacked, so I think all this stuff was last minute machinations.
Talk about desperation in signing madge , coaches graveyard at the Broncs , RIP in MADGE 2025 - 2027. Take a leaf out of the Lions playbook , same coach for the last 8 years , lost the 2023 GF and ran 5th in 2024 and won the GF. 18 years without a GF win, the Broncos need to extend the reveiw and do a root cause because something is deeply wrong at the club. Hey lets remove the coach he has to be the problem , right😂
It's a player lazy attitude problem and still getting paid whether they perform or not. Pay should be base wage with performance bonus then they might make an effort. They all want the SOO gig bc they get paid extra per game.
The Lions have been consistently in the top for since Fagan took over as coach. They went from nothings to top 4 in two seasons and have consistently remained there. The Broncos went back terribly this year and if you watched a post game press conference Kev looked almost witless as to what was the reason. That does not instill any confidence in the players. He lost the dressing room, and he knew it, and it was embittering him. The jovial funny guy often has a lot riding under the surface. I liked Kev as coach but this year was bad. Management made the right decision. The team was going backwards fast.
I swear on all that I love if the new blues coach is Brad Fitler or Laurey Daley I am done! I won't ever watch another state of origin game again!
Broncos just got there next g.f win 🏆 in madge you must trust 👍 was great for us at souths .
Player performance is the problem. Not the coach.
Gould spoke to the fox about his drug driving and couldn't tell, but apparently he can tell that a sober Walters isn't right?
I hope the players revolt and cancel any contractual arrangements that might be in place
...indeed...the players failed the coach, and the management not able to provide strong, fast more athletics, hard-headed players are more to blame for the Broncos demise! Performance base salary is the way to go... work your butts off, as many of us do to pay bills... and the greater reward is there...easy money.. lousy players... With Kevie gone, Allan will follow, he has to, there is nothing of the good Broncos left there...
Madge will work wonders working with Reynolds again, watch them win the GF next year anyone can screenshot this comment and watch it come to fruition
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@@crazyprayingmantis5596 something funny goofball? At least I’ll make an opinion based on real life facts while you just comment a laughing emoji 🤡🤡🤡
@@6t7ghost
How can you have facts for something you're predicting to happen in the future?
I'd be surprised if Reynolds even makes it through the season, he's cooked.
You seem really angry, are you ok?
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 Madge and Reynolds have won a premiership together is that not a fact?
@@6t7ghost Reyno is old and broken. Great player but his body is just worn out.
Haha QR code anonymous? Give me a break
I'm not suggesting anything about the Brisbane review process. However QR codes aren't inherently anonymous especially if on the players own devices.
The leaking of this stuff, St George did it recently and lost me as a fan of 65 years. This is private stuff. Bad form
They started talkn to maguire 4weeks ago 🤯
Broncos are top heavy plus they are trying to live in 90’s all the supporters of the team they have to realise they are just a team not a super team
2024 how things are done. bad matters exist today.
Ironic that assistant coach for broncos and nsw are the same
The NRL killed the game for the fans years ago, sadly Rugby Union is heading the same way.
Rugby Union in Adelaide is already in a far worse state than Rugby league
Players dont get along with kevin. Lost the sheds a while back
Alarm bells rang when cobby stated kevin cant coach
I think its better to have a coach sacked at the end of the season than in the middle of the season.
How about the Broncos players being held responsible for what happened this season??? Maguire will make ZERO difference if the players don’t step up!!! Walsh on a million.. worth half that!!!
The bronxs players are show ponies,,,,,all about themselves and their pockets…..
For channel nine to stand down Gus Gould for the GF is a absolute disgrace i like his input of the games and when it comes down to it GUS is a rugby league fan just like the rest of us show abit of respect for the old bloke 💯 percent yeah sure he's opinionated but aren't we All
Gus can’t really talk he did the same to Ivan
Lol. The broncos era is over. Too many other queensland teams to spread the money out evenly and fairly. They don’t have this huge advantage over the comp anymore. The broncos will forever suck from this moment on. And I’m all for it.
Danny has the same source as Buzz 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Performance incentives would work but not at 200k guaranteed. Who would play the sport? We're already one of the only high level professional sports globally where most of the top income earners still can't even afford property in the suburbs they play in (If they're in the big cities). You expect a professional athlete can have pick of property, but take a guy on 700k. After taxes, management etc they're only on around 350k. Say the average career is 8 years, that's 2.8mill over 8 years. Median house price in Sydney is 1.6mill, meaning that maybe a top athlete can pay off a very average house by the end of their career. Kind of embarrassing in comparison to other major sports (And the other side of the equation as to why performance isn't as high as the NFL).
My understanding is NFL pay is 20% base and 80% performance bonus.
Only way to make some NRL players put in effort is a performance bonus bc some players are on $800k/ year doing nothing on the field.
House prices is not the NRL problem, they don't have to make sure players can buy a house. Its a job like everyone else. If they want 600k instead, then perform on the field and get your bonus. Most people would give their right arm to earn $350k/year.
Manager fees are part of the job. That's how they get a contract. If they don't like it do the negotiating themselves.
Let's go back to the era where players had full time jobs doing other things and then played on the weekend. At least those players wanted to play the game.
@jodiealldridge1547 in that era where players had jobs, weren't they on match payments where winning was worth much more money than losing? Money has to be used as an incentive.
Can never go wrong with picking a premiership winning coach
I call BS on the quick & immediate replacement of Kevie within 24hours. Every club has reviews annually regarless of their position on the ladder.
Players and coach were accountable at the Bronco's ... Lets face it the issues that are evident with players behaviour on / off and certainly after the end of the season are interesting.
Dolphins,Cowboys, Titans and Storms have Depleted the Queensland market of talents which Broncs used to solely enjoy years gone past.... Broncs do your own pathway and nursery..... Look @ Panthers ......
Me plus ten. Make an offer. SAPOL can approve the list otherwise this goes fedral invasion of privacy. Mink
The broncos are a losing team club, everything about the Bronx smells…..CEO of Bronx sacked 3 coaches…..maybe time for him to go…..the whole culture at the Bronx smells…..I was a fan,,,,not anymore
They made the finals last year if you knew it was going to happen because of the performance this year then every coach that didn’t make the top 8 should be fired but I’m hearing crickets from you. When did Ricky last make the finals yet his job is safe.
Whatever you do, don't tell Danny Weidler any of your intimate secrets. Big stoolie
Why is it always that you coach gets the sack players are to blame not good enough to bring home the backon
Please not Laurie Daley again.
The man can't make 2nd half adjustments to his team.
Danny Weider is just fishing . Weasel. His proof is that he has asked but has had no response
Just 12 months ago the Broncs were so close to clinching the gf
Give Laurie the nsw job
I believe Madge needs to convince Adam Reynolds to retire and sign on as a coach and run this team
1. Selwyn Cobbo - 6"4
2. Israel Leota - 6"3
3. Kotoni Staggs - 6"1
4. Deine Mariner - 6"1
5. Jessie Arthars - 6"2
6. Reese Walsh - 5"10
7. Ezra Mam - 5"9
8. Corey Jensen - 6"2
9. Blake Mozer - 6"0
10. Payne Haas - 6"4
11. Jordan Riki - 6"3
12. Brenden Piakura - 6"2
13. Patrick Carrigan - 6"3
14. Tyson Smoothy - 5"11
15. Xavier Williams - 6"6
16. Benjamin Te Kura - 6"9
17. Kobe Hetherington - ?
The problem is there’s no legitimate halfback. Mam is a running 5/8 and Walsh is a running fullback who can ball play. Unless they get a hooker who can do all the organising from dummy half they can’t really do it.
Ummmm.... what? Yeah good like tryna find a 7 you need a 7. Ezra isn't ready, you need Reynolds to be preliminary final team also playing 2 inexperienced halves? Yeah going to go from preliminary final in my opinion with reyonalds with not making the finals at all
Ezra’s not a 7 , Walsh can’t tackle at fullback so imaging him in the front line piakuri offers nothing as a player broncos won’t be able to keep Staggs or Cobbo one will go
This lineup would come bottom 4 next year… Also why do their heights matter? 😂
One year ago he was awesome now one year later he sux hmm people do that 🤣
Bring back Mary
How does Bronco player with no driver's licence an fail drug test Steering a Broncos sponsered Vehicle Madge on your Watch ?
Why would you put a verifiable NSW coach into the Broncos ? Absolutely crazy. Sorry broncos, youv,e lost me.
6 coaches in 10 years. Same clown who threw kev under the bus will do the same to madge when he starts getting tough with them. If there is no loyalty to a guy who gets you to a grand slam final sure as hell wont be any to madge. Coach isnt the problem, front office and lack of quality leaders in the squad is.
Sick of hearing about broncos old boys, just stop yapping and whinging and actually help the club by being quiet.
Ask the old boy what's going on with the FOX?
These dumb broncos board haters just cost broncos at least 5 rings. Kevy and the boys were about to go on a magic run but now wow who knows
I want what you’re on 😂
@@KeriTserepasim in truth facts and logic 1000% broncos just got robbed
Kevin might coach the blues😂
John's brothers it's time to coach
start putting host cup guys in.. ie norths who wonQLD Q CUP