my best understanding of the sheezel no call is that the tackle wasn't stuck, when the ball went lose nobody was actually tackling and like you said Langdon dislodged the ball
Shots after the siren need to be reviewed in the break, its an actual joke they didnt go back and overturn in. They need to get over themselves with the idea that the umpires cant be questioned, they need to be held accountable for shockers like this, at some point they need to realise they can go back and overturn certain calls. Super annoyed they didnt give clarry a staging fine too, the only reason may got one was because of the backlash. It shows they dont want to enforce their own rules unless they get enough media backlash around it
wither humanity? what if it wasn't the last play and the ump missed something glaring, would you want that reviewed too? let there be a human element in the game...
@@hedonismunderstands2469 Absolutely, it literally would affect nothing else in the game. That was a goal from something where it objectively shouldnt have been a goal, play was stopped so it doesnt matter if they overturn it. It will forever be the least pro sport in the world because of stuff like this
Great video, as a Blues fan Charlie's dribble bounce and goal between 2 Cats defenders was another party trick goal. Maybe Blues players spent the bye on the basketball court.
I thought the Sheez play was fine because the Dees player nerve had him under control. Just grasping at him. So that’s why it was a strip. Glad you shows the Oliver flop. I know Curtis is strong but cmon.
Missed what should've been a deliberate in the Port Lions game, Lions defender just smacks the ball out of play, wasn't a marking contest, how was that not given?
9:09 If you're within nine metres of the line (the length of the goal square) you can rush it through 18.11.2 A field Umpire shall award a Free Kick against a Player from the Defending Team who intentionally Kicks, Handballs or forces the football over the Attacking Team’s Goal Line or Behind Line or onto one of the Attacking Team’s Goal Posts, and the Player: (a) is greater than nine metres from the Goal Line or Behind Line
You have to satisfy 3 conditions simultaneously: 1) be within 9m of the scoring line 2) be under immediate pressure from the opposition 3) not have had prior opportunity to dispose of the ball While he clearly satisfied the 9m condition, he did not satisfy the other two as he was not under pressure when he took the ball and had both time and space to dispose of it. He wasn't even tackled over the line, he stepped over while the opponent was still a couple of metres away.
@@timothyhill6879 the rule outlines the conditions that must be met for it to be deliberate. The use of the word “and” means that, for it to be deliberate, you have to meet all of the conditions: (a) is greater than nine metres from the Goal Line or Behind Line; (b) is not under immediate physical pressure; (c) has had time and space to dispose of the football OR Meeting only d is sufficient for it to be deliberate (rucking it over the line on the full). While he had time and space, and wasn’t under physical pressure, he wasn’t further than 9m from the scoring line. Therefore not all conditions met, therefore not deliberate.
6:26 Can't be holding the bull if he ISN'T actually tackled! Dees player never gets a proper hold of the Norf guy. You're welcome. Also, didn't they make a ruling a few years back with allowing a wee bit of leeway with a players natural kicking arc (Franklin) for shots after the siren? Cameron barely deviated for mine, umpires actually got that one right for once there i reckon... deadset should have been a 50 anyway, but yeah... WRONG call BT, and HTB, sorry gents. 🏉
I disagree that staging deserves fines. Can't punish idiotic behavior. If they want us fans to see them like that, that's their problem. If you're fining that, they should fine over celebrators too, as I find that just as annoying.
@@captainpoppleton, the barometre of staging can be interpreted insanely loose. People throw their heads back when tackled. As it always is, a certain instance is not the problem - it's the environment; the entire system.
For the deliberate rushed behind it was 100% correct. If at any stage during a players possession of the ball they are not under immediate pressure, which is normally classed as 2-5m depending on how quickly the opposition player is applying pressure, then the player has had 'time and space' to dispose of the ball so do not have the right to deliberately rush a behind
8:55 lets hope they keep this same energy for the rest of the comp. Too many players do it and nothing happens. So much hate for May this week due to something that happens almost every game.
That goal umpire needs to be sacked he is really bad and doesn’t deserve his job. It clearly was a goal there was no reason for it not the be. It didn’t hit the post and it wasn’t touched so that is clearly an easy call of a GOAL. I do goal umpiring and it is not that hard. He makes it job look so complicated and just confuses me what his thought process was with that bad call.
What's with the angles that players are set up from these days? Watching older games if someone marks it in the goal square a couple of metres off centre they are put on about a 10-15 degree angle. Now when it happens they are basically sent out of the field on a 90 degree angle lol. No wonder goal kicking is getting worse, the umpires have lost the plot
funnily enough the seagull oddity at 3:38 should have been about the umpire paying 50m for something that shouldn't have been a 50m. If the player feints a handball or kick to make the man on the mark move then it's not a 50m penalty...
The Sheez one was called play on because there was no tackle laid, the Melbourne player has hands all over him but he doesn't actually tackle There needs to be a tackle for it to be HTB
@@hedonismunderstands2469 Initially yea, it was a tackle, but when slowed you can see Langdon almost completely let go of Sheezel and then stripped the ball. Not TECHNICALLY holding the ball but watching it live, and as a massive roos fan, I thought he was gone.
@@papleylivesrentfreeinurhead i thought that's what recently changed in the review of this rule - call it pretty well as soon as someone has you under control, bit like a mark, to lessen the incidence of players being forced beyond that risking injuries to either player - should have been called.
@@hedonismunderstands2469the umps don’t know what a fucking rule change is (I’m a Roos fan) Eddie ford got paid “dangerous tackle” to may and may staged so the umps are a fucking inconsistent joke
With Harry Sheezel, the only thing that seems possible is that the umpire didn't think the tackle was properly made, so play on? But, I agree, should have been holding the ball.
jezza's goal is a goal unless an umpire makes a decision, which they didn't. swings and roundabouts, lot's of other decisions go the other way and you concede a goal... that's footy - it's human and it's good for that. you're bang on with harry's unpaid holding the ball though. and the bomb[er]s away throw!
I think the sheezle non holding the ball is down to the umpire not thinking it was a tackle. The melbourne player gets hands on him but not much of a hold. I still think that should be holding the ball/incorrect disposal, but from what i have seen the umpires wont give the free without a definitive tackle
What was your thought on Peter Wright's mark that wasn't paid in either the 1st or 2nd quarter. I believed it should of been paid although will fully admit I'm a one eyed supporter to the dons but still felt less gets paid. Just want to know your thought on this?
Another oddity is why this channel doesn't have more subscribers.
talk ya crab, at least his growing meanwhile your making shit comments like this 😅
@@sunnygym4266what?? He’s complimenting him you fumb
@@sunnygym4266 , you lost a bit of credibility when you failed to type "you're"* 😬
Ikr
i googled the ump from the ben keays incident, and i can confirm it is the same umpire. that is absolutely shocking.
It's because look what happened last time. Bro got full on shamed and hated by every Adelaide fan. He isn't risking it.
@@mrmcateer1424 hahahah so true mate
Same ump was at hawks vs north, he called about 3-4 reviews in a row that were pretty clear
I thought he got fired. That’s so weird 😂
@@glennrorato4639Yeah, I thought he had like a 1-2 year ban or something
my best understanding of the sheezel no call is that the tackle wasn't stuck, when the ball went lose nobody was actually tackling and like you said Langdon dislodged the ball
Shots after the siren need to be reviewed in the break, its an actual joke they didnt go back and overturn in. They need to get over themselves with the idea that the umpires cant be questioned, they need to be held accountable for shockers like this, at some point they need to realise they can go back and overturn certain calls. Super annoyed they didnt give clarry a staging fine too, the only reason may got one was because of the backlash. It shows they dont want to enforce their own rules unless they get enough media backlash around it
wither humanity? what if it wasn't the last play and the ump missed something glaring, would you want that reviewed too? let there be a human element in the game...
@@hedonismunderstands2469 Absolutely, it literally would affect nothing else in the game. That was a goal from something where it objectively shouldnt have been a goal, play was stopped so it doesnt matter if they overturn it. It will forever be the least pro sport in the world because of stuff like this
Like the new format. You need to nominate a point of the year every round
4:54 clear throw. Umpires do not penalise these kind of throws enough.
Wasn't HTB against Sheezel because it wasn't a tackle. Like the umpire said, he just knocked the ball out of his hand.
Great video, as a Blues fan Charlie's dribble bounce and goal between 2 Cats defenders was another party trick goal. Maybe Blues players spent the bye on the basketball court.
I totally agreed with everything you submitted that was a dubious umpires decision. Really like your work mate, it's cool!
The new holding the ball interpretation is over it seems. They have put the whistle away.
why hasn't that goal umpire been sacked or fined for wasting time? and why hasn't he been sacked for incompetence
I thought the Sheez play was fine because the Dees player nerve had him under control. Just grasping at him. So that’s why it was a strip. Glad you shows the Oliver flop. I know Curtis is strong but cmon.
curtis benches 165kg
1:30 it is the same umpire
that goal umpire is the bane of my existence
Finally, someone has the same view of Ratugolea as me. He’s all athlete no footy brain. I cannot fathom how Geelong got a second round pick for him
Love any reference to Kelli ‘Orange Team’ Underwood
I found the umpire falling in the bris vs port game and it was pretty funny 🤣
Missed what should've been a deliberate in the Port Lions game, Lions defender just smacks the ball out of play, wasn't a marking contest, how was that not given?
6:05 This wasn't a bloody tackle
The AFL also needs to fine players claiming they’ve touched the ball when CLEARLY they have not. That is outright cheating…. Yet the AFL are silent.
I completely missed that shovel pass when I watched the bombers game 😂
what about jessie hogan being told to stand behind the post on that free kick at 9:23. that seemed pretty dumb tbh
Port game must have felt good for you!
9:09
If you're within nine metres of the line (the length of the goal square) you can rush it through
18.11.2
A field Umpire shall award a Free Kick against a Player from the Defending Team who
intentionally Kicks, Handballs or forces the football over the Attacking Team’s Goal Line
or Behind Line or onto one of the Attacking Team’s Goal Posts, and the Player:
(a) is greater than nine metres from the Goal Line or Behind Line
You have to satisfy 3 conditions simultaneously:
1) be within 9m of the scoring line
2) be under immediate pressure from the opposition
3) not have had prior opportunity to dispose of the ball
While he clearly satisfied the 9m condition, he did not satisfy the other two as he was not under pressure when he took the ball and had both time and space to dispose of it. He wasn't even tackled over the line, he stepped over while the opponent was still a couple of metres away.
@@timothyhill6879 the rule outlines the conditions that must be met for it to be deliberate. The use of the word “and” means that, for it to be deliberate, you have to meet all of the conditions:
(a) is greater than nine metres from the Goal Line or Behind Line;
(b) is not under immediate physical pressure;
(c) has had time and space to dispose of the football
OR
Meeting only d is sufficient for it to be deliberate (rucking it over the line on the full).
While he had time and space, and wasn’t under physical pressure, he wasn’t further than 9m from the scoring line. Therefore not all conditions met, therefore not deliberate.
5:40 I was at the freo game and was fucking screaming my head off for that 50m.
Cameron's was NO SCORE. 4 umps plus Goal umps and Boundary umps unable to sort that out?
Enjoyed and subscribed - Goliath?!?
Is there a reason why you highlight audio oddities to then not include the audio for the viewer to hear?
It is included after the final sign off 13:22
6:26 Can't be holding the bull if he ISN'T actually tackled! Dees player never gets a proper hold of the Norf guy. You're welcome. Also, didn't they make a ruling a few years back with allowing a wee bit of leeway with a players natural kicking arc (Franklin) for shots after the siren? Cameron barely deviated for mine, umpires actually got that one right for once there i reckon... deadset should have been a 50 anyway, but yeah... WRONG call BT, and HTB, sorry gents. 🏉
nice wrap up
With the May staging thing how come when Sam Walsh did the exact same thing Patrick Dangerfeild was on report
do you think the umpires look at this video to review what they did wrong each week?
5:26 in the back tho?
Didn't even hear that noise from the umpire because you were talking over it.
It is included after the final sign off 13:22
Good old radagoulia!!! I'm glad we got rid of him
rule is if its knocked out its play on
Bro what is with everyone calling Zac Bailey cam Rayner
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I disagree that staging deserves fines. Can't punish idiotic behavior. If they want us fans to see them like that, that's their problem. If you're fining that, they should fine over celebrators too, as I find that just as annoying.
It's isn't being fined because it is annoying, it is being fined because it ruins the integrity of the game
staging is a form of cheating thats why. They should fine the umpires too lol
Perhaps we could fine the crowd for clapping. Staging is cheating, celebrating is not.
@@captainpoppleton, the barometre of staging can be interpreted insanely loose. People throw their heads back when tackled. As it always is, a certain instance is not the problem - it's the environment; the entire system.
We don't want a soccer match
For the deliberate rushed behind it was 100% correct. If at any stage during a players possession of the ball they are not under immediate pressure, which is normally classed as 2-5m depending on how quickly the opposition player is applying pressure, then the player has had 'time and space' to dispose of the ball so do not have the right to deliberately rush a behind
8:55 lets hope they keep this same energy for the rest of the comp. Too many players do it and nothing happens. So much hate for May this week due to something that happens almost every game.
That goal umpire needs to be sacked he is really bad and doesn’t deserve his job. It clearly was a goal there was no reason for it not the be. It didn’t hit the post and it wasn’t touched so that is clearly an easy call of a GOAL. I do goal umpiring and it is not that hard. He makes it job look so complicated and just confuses me what his thought process was with that bad call.
What's with the angles that players are set up from these days? Watching older games if someone marks it in the goal square a couple of metres off centre they are put on about a 10-15 degree angle. Now when it happens they are basically sent out of the field on a 90 degree angle lol. No wonder goal kicking is getting worse, the umpires have lost the plot
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"I used to be a field umpire, then I took a centre circle to the knee"
What about Jeremy Cameron's mark that wasn't paid?
funnily enough the seagull oddity at 3:38 should have been about the umpire paying 50m for something that shouldn't have been a 50m. If the player feints a handball or kick to make the man on the mark move then it's not a 50m penalty...
Wasn’t the umpire band from last year for two years right
1:33 Why didn’t they fire him 😭
The Sheez one was called play on because there was no tackle laid, the Melbourne player has hands all over him but he doesn't actually tackle
There needs to be a tackle for it to be HTB
you don't need to bring a player to ground to make a tackle, that was a tackle, he had him all day.
@@hedonismunderstands2469 Initially yea, it was a tackle, but when slowed you can see Langdon almost completely let go of Sheezel and then stripped the ball. Not TECHNICALLY holding the ball but watching it live, and as a massive roos fan, I thought he was gone.
@@papleylivesrentfreeinurhead i thought that's what recently changed in the review of this rule - call it pretty well as soon as someone has you under control, bit like a mark, to lessen the incidence of players being forced beyond that risking injuries to either player - should have been called.
@@hedonismunderstands2469the umps don’t know what a fucking rule change is (I’m a Roos fan) Eddie ford got paid “dangerous tackle” to may and may staged so the umps are a fucking inconsistent joke
Harris Andrews giving Mitch McGovern a run for best fairy flop this year.
2:23 his not a bad defender he just doesn’t do the smartest decisions like when Hawkins was about to get a goal and raty thumped it into play 😂
Half of the time in this video I thought Carlton where gws
This was the biggest oddity of the round for me
13:00 we cant hear the audio mate
It is included after the final sign off 13:22
With Harry Sheezel, the only thing that seems possible is that the umpire didn't think the tackle was properly made, so play on? But, I agree, should have been holding the ball.
jezza's goal is a goal unless an umpire makes a decision, which they didn't. swings and roundabouts, lot's of other decisions go the other way and you concede a goal... that's footy - it's human and it's good for that. you're bang on with harry's unpaid holding the ball though. and the bomb[er]s away throw!
I think the sheezle non holding the ball is down to the umpire not thinking it was a tackle. The melbourne player gets hands on him but not much of a hold.
I still think that should be holding the ball/incorrect disposal, but from what i have seen the umpires wont give the free without a definitive tackle
with the sheezel one, it can’t be holding the ball if a proper tackle hasn’t been laid.
The sheezel one doesn’t seem like a tackle, langdon gets an arm on him but not really a tackle imo
how ‘bout treacys screamer
Did Langdon actually lay a tackle?
im pretty sire the umpire fell over on the port one
Thanks for the shoutout, I’ll make sure to keep sending through oddities.
good format for video, entertaining while being a informational recap. keep it up
Underwood always seems stunned when there’s a goal, like she’s searching for something proverbial to say, and just times out and says nothing.
no one cares what your opinion is the rules state you slip it's not holding the ball
Thanks champ
Langdon wasn’t actually tackling him, he just touches him
Thanks Mate
What was your thought on Peter Wright's mark that wasn't paid in either the 1st or 2nd quarter. I believed it should of been paid although will fully admit I'm a one eyed supporter to the dons but still felt less gets paid. Just want to know your thought on this?
Harry sheezel just kicked it
You forgot the one where Heppell CLEARLY touches it but the ump says it’s a mark for Oscar Allen
4:11 direct push in the back
You know west coast are clueless when even they’re players don’t even know what way they’re going 🤣