The Sensational Supremes - A Musical Journey of Struggle and Style | The Dick Cavett Show
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Dick Cavett has been nominated for eleven Emmy awards (the most recent in 2012 for the HBO special, Mel Brooks and Dick Cavett Together Again), and won three. Spanning five decades, Dick Cavett’s television career has defined excellence in the interview format. He started at ABC in 1968, and also enjoyed success on PBS, USA, and CNBC.
His most recent television successes were the September 2014 PBS special, Dick Cavett’s Watergate, followed April 2015 by Dick Cavett’s Vietnam. He has appeared in movies, tv specials, tv commercials, and several Broadway plays. He starred in an off-Broadway production ofHellman v. McCarthy in 2014 and reprised the role at Theatre 40 in LA February 2015.
Cavett has published four books beginning with Cavett (1974) and Eye on Cavett (1983), co-authored with Christopher Porterfield. His two recent books -- Talk Show: Confrontations, Pointed Commentary, and Off-Screen Secrets (2010) and Brief Encounters: Conversations, Magic moments, and Assorted Hijinks(October 2014) are both collections of his online opinion column, written for The New York Times since 2007. Additionally, he has written for The New Yorker, TV Guide, Vanity Fair, and elsewhere.
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Thank you for sharing this video. I love my Supremes. All of the ladies of The Supremes.
Mary Wilson holds a special place in my heart. ❤
The way that Jean sings "My World is Empty Without You" is so beautiful ❤️❤️❤️
This configuration of the Supremes only lasted one year as Cindy Birdsong was away starting a family. But every configuration of the Supremes was special in their own way and the amazing vocals of Jean Terrell are still front and center here. Jean is the lead vocalist on many of my favorite Supremes recordings in the early 70s. "Nathan Jones", "River Deep Mountain High" and so many other big hits.
Thanks 😊 I didn't know that.
"Nathan Jones" 🔥 ❤💯
Oh please. Get real. The post Diana Supremes were no match for Diana Ross and the Supremes. Fact
I find Jean Terrell's soulful interpretation of "My World is Empty Without You" especially delightful. I love the way she plays with the phrasing (4:21) of such a simple but beautiful song.
She does have a really incredible voice
@@hunkhk I really loved Jean I saw her several times in the early70's.
I was angry as heck when she left the group.
@@motownfan3 her sound was so unique she really added something post Diana which sadly was only shortlived. Such incredible times the 60s and 70s you never know how good it was till it's no longer there
@@motownfan3 so lucky to have seen in person
Thanks for posting this, The Supremes Mary Wilson Jean Terrell and Lynda Laurence Look and Sound GREAT, I'm happy they finally released this to the public, as you can see in this video, Mary Jean and Lynda were Professional, Sophisticated and Pro's, I LOVE Everything About This performance, they were The Best.
Thank you so much for kindly posting this. The Supremes with Jean Terrell were incredible! What a voice!
Finally, video with the great JT sealing her legacy that more with the Supremes.
Thank you for posting the full segment! There are so few performances featuring Lynda Laurence. They were all spectacular.
Jean's brother was Ernie Terrell who was briefly Heavyweight champion when Ali was stripped of the title by the WBA in 1966.
This lineup was/is one my favorites. I also loved the final lineup of the Ladies.. Awesome.
WOW! I’ve never seen this medley led by the incomparable Jean Terrell and backed so beautifully by Mary Wilson and Lynda Laurence! Thanks for posting!
What a fantastic clip. The medley was fantastic and Tossin' and Turnin' was great in a live show! Loved this. Thank you for sharing!
Always nice to see new Supremes clips. I bet Mary would have loved to have seen this again. I enjoy Jean's take on "My World is Empty Without You." "Tossin and Turnin" is fun, too.
Jean Terrell was a great replacement, she did not 'copy cat' Diana and gave the Supremes a new image & style. Berry Gordy swept them aside once Diana left. Great Group always!👍
Berry Gordy at the last minute wanted to change the lead to Syretta Wright, he didn't get his way so The Supremes were no longer being promoted.
OMG! The marvellous Jean genie. Thanks.
Jean and that wonderful voice. She was incredible, probably a little bit scary to Berry Gordy because of the Supremes ability to possibly usurp Miss Ross, something Berry wouldn't want. Seeing this makes you realize just how great they were after Diana left.
True and True
Nor Now.. THAT was Totally & ABSOLUTELY SUPREME!!!💥💥💥💖
Exactly and thats why Berry stopped promoting them, because they were a threat, and when Diana and The Surpemes went there separate ways, the Supremes with the incomparable Jean Terrell hits keep coming when at first Diana's solo career stalled
All the post-Diana lineups were good, and they truly had potential beyond Jean-Mary-Cindy, but I don't think Gordy actively sabotaged the group. Motown's operational model changed after Holland-Dozier-Holland left, a change that impacted most of Motown's hit groups from the 60s and even a solo Diana in the 70s.
The Motown acts that would dominate in the 70s -- Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, and The Commodores come to mind -- wrote and produced their own material. The Supremes didn't have the wherewithal to A&R their own material, so they fell off. By comparison, Diana also had really inconsistent chart showings in the seventies despite consistent support from Gordy.
A good example of all of the above is Love Machine by The Miracles. Written by two members of the group, that song took the group from has been status all the way back to #1 in 1975-76 before they immediately fell all the way back off.
The Supremes look beautiful and classy in this clip, but I almost can't believe Motown wasted a TV appearance on an oldie like Tossin' and Turnin'. Such a bad decision and wasted opportunity was the real sabotage. After 1971, Gordy didn't really have a solid grasp on where to take The Supremes, and they were pretty much back to where they had been before Where Did Our Love Go when Diana-Mary-Florence were the "no-hit Supremes" trying out different Motown producers and songs looking for a hit.
So good to hear Jean Terrell
My World sounds amazing . As for the rest , it’s just hard to cover Diana. She stays on the melody so well it sounds awkward hearing someone else singing her songs. Jean is an incredible vocalist. I love her voice for sure.
I usually don't like when the sing songs from the Diana Ross era, but they really did a good job
I get it. Those songs were written for Diana’s voice so Jean had an unfair job.
The only person I’ve ever heard come even close to capturing Diana’s magic on the Supremes song was The Isley’s singing I Hear a Symphony. No shade to Jean or anyone else. Brian really understood her voice so well.
@@scottt5109 and you have to give them credit for rearranging to songs to fit Jean's voice.
For sure
love this ;)
These women are so beautiful and talented!! God Bless You!! Thank You Jesus for all you have done for us!!
Whoa! My World is Empty Without you Babe! Terrell did that!!!
Great to see this video, I remember this era of Supremes from back in my teen years, lol. They all looked so young, Lynda unrecognizable, thought it was Freda Payne
Jean Lynda and Jean sound absolutely beautiful and they are equally singing together and they will be forever and always Supreme 💎💎💎💎⭐⭐⭐. This will always be one of my favorite line ups .
❤ Jean, Jean, Jean! Her version of My world is empty without you brings tears to my eyes. She was criminally underrated at Motown!
Great post, thanks for sharing!!
Just imagine The Supremes if they would have had the backing of Motown records wow Jean Terrell incredible The Supremes incredible they indeed and thank God for social media without Diana Ross and I love Diana Ross but the Supremes were supremely Supreme without
Jean is.a much better singer than Miss Ross Diana is a great entertainer she has more chrisma and personality
@@johnfulton4061Jean is a much better singer? Was that a joke?
@@johnfulton4061 I agree, Jean Terrell was a much better singer than Diana Ross, but Diana Ross had a really unique voice, especially for a black woman. Diana could have sung hits released in the early 60s by singers like Lesley Gore, Shelly Fabares, and Petula Clark, and listeners would not have even been sure it was a black woman singing. Diana was and is a good and charismatic singer, but it must be said that her voice did a lot of the work.
I know Mary Wilson felt differently, but I honestly think Motown didn't go out of its way to sabotage the post-Diana Supremes. After Holland Dozier Holland, the acts that did best were those who had the ability to write and produce their own material. The Supremes didn't have the wherewithal to A&R their own material, so they fell off. After 1971 or so, I honestly think Gordy didn't really have a clear idea of what to do with the Supremes.
The Supremes look and sound great in this clip, but it is pretty surprising to me that someone at Motown approved Tossin' and Turnin' for a TV appearance. What a waste. The decline in The Supremes' material after 1971 corresponded almost perfectly with their fall off on the charts.
They promoted the supremes with Diana they could have promoted the supremes without Diana. Berry was the one who Picked jean as Diana's replacement . So I don't buy the theory that they didn't know what to do with the supremes.
Mary Wilson looks very good on this Dick Cavett Show, especially her shoes..., 👏 !!!
Jean Terrell was the one. ❤
They all were fab all 12 of them were and are foreVah SUoohPREMEs'
I love how Jean sings Reflections.
💖🤩💖🤩💖🤩💖🤩💖🤩💖🤩
Lynda’s mic wasn’t turned down IMO, I think that the act still continued unfortunately to have this Motown girl groups live-performances thing about having the lead’s mic way turned up and louder, incomprehensibly and frustratingly. In the second performance at the end when Mary and Lynda’s vocals come in louder, the JML lineup sounds better complementing one another’s voices and the group by then should’ve reflected 3 contemporary singers with voices all equally mic’d and heard, IMO. They looked great performing here - definitely, no other female group could still even then look so “Supreme.” Ty for posting! 😎
Fantastic!
This was still the purse 👛 strings of Motown. No doubt about it.
Diana was the biggest female star in the world at the time. Not Motown, the world.
Oh yea and those five brothers from Indiana weren’t doing so bad either.
And Marvin Gaye had just released one of the best albums of all time about a year before - "What's Going On".
Jean Therrell, in my opinion, is the best soul singer of the 60s and 70s!
Mary Wilson is there in all her glory. All long as she’s there we have the Supremes, but you are correct it’s not the original Supremes. Diana and Flo and Cindy had left the group.
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Wonderful, which year is this and who are the individual singers? Some of us were not around at this time. This kind of information is important! Thank you!
JeanTerell, has a beautiful voice, she sounds similar to Diana Ross.
THESE ARE THE OFFICIAL SUPREMES. THESE ARE NO "TOURING VERSION" NOR WERE THEY A "RUSE". IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME REPLIERS ON HERE WERE NOT AROUND WHEN THIS MUSICAL HISTORY WAS MADE. WITH THE GOLDEN-VOICED JEAN TERRELL AS LEAD, THE SUPREMES HAD NINE ALBUMS, SEVERAL GOLD RECORDS, ADDITIONAL SPIN OFF LPS, AND MAJOR TV AND CLUB APPEARANCES. A VERY BIG SHOW-BIZ DEAL WAS MADE WHEN DIANA LEFT THE GROUP AND THE MAGNIFICENT JEAN TERRELL CAME IN AS THE NEW LEAD SINGER. A LIVE DOUBLE LP WAS RELEASED CAPTURING THIS EVENT. JEAN REMAINED AS LEAD FOR NEARLY FOUR YEARS. Berry Gordy eventually became uneasy with the success of the new group as he feared they would eclipse Ross by taking record sales away from her. In fact, their first single charted much, much higher than her first single! Hence, he eventually removed the best writers and musicians from the group and let them flounder. They were fantastic, but in the end this wonderful group was sabotaged.
You are absolutely correct about what you said. Barry Gordy didn't like that the new Supremes became so successful and became direct competition the solo career of Diana Ross. Barry had a lot of money invested in making Diana a huge solo star for Motown. He intentionally stop having the new Supremes promoted. They were given substandard material to record to fulfill their contractual obligations. After that, they were dropped from the Motown label.
Jean Terrell was in top form in this medley.
Jean Terrell sounds like Jeanette Hawes of the Emotions
Jean, putting on spin on the group classic fantastically. The choreography always been goofy.
Jeanie……..
Jean was a good replacement for Diana Ross, but I must admit the original line-up was the best.
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Jean was one of the greatest soul singers of the 70s. Gordy chose her for her talent (these are not "fake" Supremes, as some suggest here: he chose her as Ross's replacement when she left) but then he didn't seem to know just what to do with her as time went on. It was detrimental to the group when Cindy Birdsong left to have a baby and Linda Laurence (whose mic is not working right here--she has a big voice) replaced her. Laurence was very talented but it was too much to ask the fans to accept yet another change. And there were more to come. Terrell and Laurence would leave soon--but then Birdsong would return. And Scherrie Payne, with her huge dynamic voice, would come in. That was a brilliant trio (Wilson-Payne-Birdsong), but then Mary's useless and abusive husband kicked Birdsong out of the group. Birdsong was replaced by Susaye Greene, who should have been developed as a solo artist instead. That was a shame: there was great potential in the Wilson-Payne-Birdsong lineup and it echoed the former Supremes.
Supersinger and Songwriter Syreeta was the missing link.that could've ushered them into the singer-songwriter, Stevie Wonder drenched 70s. Stupid Mary vetoed and Barry washed his hands...
@taddyd1 Berry Gordy wanted Syettta Garrett to be with the Supremes .Mary told that Berry that Jean Terrell was the lead singer. He wanted Stevie Wonder 's wife as lead singer. MARY VETOED THAT CHOICE.
@@taddyd1 I know all about that phone call and that Gordy (it's Berry, btw, not Barry) changed his mind. This is after he had groomed Jean, after Mary and Cindy had rehearsed with Jean, started recording with Jean, and they had just brought her onstage and announced she would be Ross's replacement. How would that have looked? Mary's not stupid: she not only knew Jean was a great singer, she also didn't want another of Gordy's paramours in the group.
@@Branner Berry wasn't dating Syreeta
@@taddyd1No, but Berry was a mentor to Syreeta and was very benevolent towards her. According to a few people, it was like a favorite uncle/spoiled niece type of thing. I don't blame Mary. Going through another scenario where the lead singer of The Supremes was another one of Berry's spoiled brats would've been unbearable. I don't think Syreeta would've enjoyed it much, either.
Rare performance that I've never seen before today. Thanks for sharing. Never seen Jean perform "Reflections" in that arrangement. Random to have Mary sing a lead part and not have Lynda do a bit, too. 🤔 And...so, Jean was the one that did the slow version of "My World is Empty Without You" before Scherrie? 🤔 Her vocals are terrific.
The only one working their outfit, though, is Mary. Lynda's bust and necklace are distracting. Too many layers and sleeves too long. Jean should've taken off the poncho to perform.
The choreography is Supreme, though.
As for the interview: Jean looks annoyed. It's not the first time there was a disturbance during an interview during a talk show interview.
A live performance of "Tossin' and Turnin'". My heart melts. 😮 Mary rocked out. If only Lynda's mic were louder to mesh the harmony better, though. Great choreography. 👍👍 I noticed Jean took off the poncho thing for the second performance.
They just seem so awkward with each other when covering the original Supremes songs. That conversational piece is a strain, (maybe that audience member put them off) PLUS when Dick refered to them as the Andrew Sisters, You know Mary was gonna rebuke that they “Not that white”, and Jean new better to quickly interupt “Not that old”. (Doubters watch) They got good singing their new (ex-Diana) songs,
During the interview, Dick Cavetto said these ladies were the original Supremes. They are fantastic!
No he didn't. They spoke clearly about how Mary Wilson is the only original Supreme in this line up.
Mary should have been positioned as lead out of respect for the Legacy of the Supremes. We know she didn't have inside support. But win, or lose it would have been better to re-engineer a sound that suited her voice. Instead they tried to keep the formula with a femme fatale voiced lead, and that twisted the politics and perceptions all the way around. My opinion.
6:40 what was that?
Yeah that was really weird and is Mary drunk or high? But it's incredible footage JT is just fabulous
Shame their medley was all the tripe they did with Motown's bike instead of their far superior 70s work and then picked the worst song from the brilliant Jimmy Webb produced album.
6:20 LOVE Jean and Lynda but this is blah. Even the chat section was missing that Ross glow. The two true talents were probably afraid to speak up too much with jealous and pursestring controller Mary sitting there. Her solo on Where Did Our Love Go ...😊
was pretty amateurish.l
Haha kind of, she also appears kinda drunk
Yeah, Mary could've done much better. But, then again, when you spent eight years only singing "baby, baby...ooooh, baby, baby", I guess it's easy to flub the actual lyrics.🤣
Tripe.
They were singinghits from the Diana Ross led Supremes. So sad.
No...
What a shame they would sing that song from that horrible album, "Miss the Man" would have been better, they also shouldn't have done that Medley of the "Diana" Supremes songs, maybe two, The Supremes with Jean by this time enough of their own catalog, Jean didn't sound like Diana so it was best to keep the separation.
I Guess I'll Miss the Man was a flop too, but I agree that Tossin' and Turnin' was a total waste of a national TV appearance. A&R at Motown really dropped the ball with the Supremes after 1971.
That’s not the supremes.
NO DIANA NO SUPREMES...
Great Supremes' performance! Horrible show host. AND I'll leave it at that.
I honestly didn't care for the group after Diana left. I really didn't.
Dreadful interviewer - embarrassing to watch.
Someone else will explain who these gals really are. Definitely not the original Supremes. Duh!
Probably a touring version that Berry Gordy sent out to publicize his roster. Interesting that Cavett went along with the ruse.
The Supremes continued as a unit after Ross left and had quite a few hits. It was no secret. Dig?
They spoke clearly about how Mary Wilson is the only original Supreme left in this line-up.
You need to educate yourself.
Original lineup: Diana. Mary , Flo and Barbara 1961-1962
Classic lineup: Diana, Mary and Flo 1962-1967
Diana Ross and the Supremes:
Diana, Mary and Cindy Birdsong 1967-1970
The Supremes: Mary, Cindy and Jean Terrell 1970-1972
Mary, Jean and Lynda Laurence 1972-1973
Mary, Cindy and Scherrie Payne 1973-1976
Mary, Scherrie and Susaye Green 1976-1977
YOU ARE INCREDIBLY WRONG. THESE ARE THE OFFICIAL SUPREMES. THESE ARE NO "TOURING VERSION" NOR WERE THEY A "RUSE". IT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE YOU WERE AROUND WHEN THIS MUSICAL HISTORY WAS MADE. THEY HAD NINE ALBUMS, SEVERAL GOLD RECORDS, ADDITIONAL SPIN OFF LPS, AND MAJOR TV AND CLUB APPEARANCES. A VERY BIG SHOW-BIZ DEAL WAS MADE WHEN DIANA LEFT THE GROUP AND THE GOLDEN-VOICED JEAN TERRELL CAME IN AS THE NEW LEAD SINGER. A LIVE DOUBLE LP WAS RELEASED CAPTURING THIS EVENT. JEAN REMAINED AS LEAD FOR NEARLY FOUR YEARS. Berry Gordy eventually became uneasy with the success of the new group as he feared it would eclipse Ross by taking record sales away from her. Hence, he eventually removed the best writers and musicians from the group and let them flounder. They were fantastic, but in the end this wonderful group was sabotaged.
Stone love, Up the ladder though the roof, Everybody's got the right to love, Shine on me, Nathan Jones, Floy Joy, This is the story, Touch, I guess I miss the Man. Songs without Diana Ross that were good IMO. Now that you're up to speed enjoy!
God he was a rotten interviewer - excruciating to watch
These are not the Supremes 👎
Only to those who have an elementary education on the history of music.
They are The Supremes, post-Diana Ross. Ross left in 1970.
Yeah. They are. Ross left and they continued and had a fair amount of huge hits. See: Up the Ladder to the Roof
@@shyman99Boom! Agreed.
@@BrentWilkins7777And they were very good without Ross. They carried on and had some big hits.
NO NO NO. NO Diana Ross, no Supremes.
Not true at all.but I agree Ross' versions are definitely better on the early hits
I agree they were so much better without her, they just didnt get the promotion and developement Diana got, but Jean was a far better vocalist
Some of us prefer the group without that talentless slapper.
And she sound awful...
What terrible marketing. What is this fraud? It wasn't this line up that sold 25million records . There's only one original Supreme here.
They went from spectacular to mediocre after Diana left. (Yes, Diana was that good) They should have changed the name after Diana left