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There is a reason why gamefreak is bringing mega’s back in a legends game: its offline. This wont affect the meta game and they can introduce their new gimmick in gen 10. I hope i am wrong but i really think they just want to please us because we have been asking for mega’s for so long
I would expect update to SV actually. It likely will stay as main VGC arena for at least 2025, which means they will have to expand the ruleset and not having Pokemon like Xerneas wouldn't be logical. I expect they will give us an update and potentially bring Megas back for Post-Game. No reason to not have Megas, especially as they could make it locked when you use Teras and with Paradox Pokemon around - Megas would counterbalance a lot of issues. And this could also be a great occasion to bring more players back, especially, if they added some additional Battle Facility game mode, maybe this time locked to the mountains that connect Paldea and Kalos. Or they could straight up copy Battle Chateu from XY and have us travel through train/planes.
Didn’t they get the legends mon in sv and also if new Megan’s come won’t people want to use them in the metagame so it is likely gen 10 may have Megas and all other gimmicks but we can only use one in the battle like they did in the anime
They’re bringing back megas for a reason. It’s people’s favorite gimmick by far, with some absolutely iconic designs like mega Rayquaza. I really hope it’ll carry on in some form going forward, even if the gimmick works differently in ZA.
@@mjm3091 They aren't gonna update SV. They didn't update BDSP to be compatible with Hisuian forms. Sun/Moon didn't get a patch that added in Zeraura. XY didn't get ORAS megas, etc
Nah, Megas have to be in Gen 10 at the very least. Legends Z-A is likely to have a different battle engine like LA. We don't even know if they're gonna reimplement held items for these Mega Stones, or just turn it into a key item like the Arceus Plates.
@@ShinyCramorant Yeah, but it's *something.* I'm not for or against the idea that TTar is suggesting, just pointing out there's more basis than even he mentioned
Masuda said in an interview they stopped megas largely because their designs were complex. Obviously he's not there anymore, so that could also be a reason they're bringing back fresh megas.
I get the others but you gotta keep in mind there's gmax pikachu and eevee so they already set the tone that some gmaxes are for non fully evolved Pokemon
I don’t think they fully closed the door to evolving Pokémon that got Mega Evolutions in the past, because look at Duraludon. It got a Gigantimax form, which at the time was very similar to Mega Evolutions, and now it can evolve into Archaludon. Maybe before I would have said Pokémon that got Megas wouldn’t be able to evolve further, but not anymore. I still think there’s hope for Mawile, Sableye, Absol, etc.
Corocoro said that all the previous mega evolutions would be returning in ZA, but we don’t know anything about new mega evolutions yet. I hope there will be new ones though, but I’m not putting to much faith in it
Legendaries and starters at the very least will get some. Probably the new starters may also get them (if they decide to go for another bunch of regional evolutions - but those could actually not get megas, because they are regional). Especially with how Xerneas and Yveltal are not in SV code - they definitely are planning to giving them new forms - and Megas would be the most obvious.
It was canonically confined that mega evolutions are dormant genes from the pokemon awakened. It makes sense for Houndoom, a dog, a domesticated animal, to appear less ferocious now compared to its Mega Evolution - its precursor. I think that can be said for a lot of the Mega-Evolutions.
It's a good idea, especially considering the argument of not being stuck in the corner. I was thinking that if mega evolutions of unevolved Pokémon will somehow make their way in the competitive game, there may be instances where it's too obvious that a certain Pokémon would mega evolve, like why would you bring a Dragonair if not to mega evolve it. I think that an aspect of mega evolutions in the competitive was at least in theory that you would not necessarily know which Pokémon your opponent would mega evolve. To be fair, Legends Z-A is probably going to be a single player game that will not get access to the competitive game, so things balance out.
Honestly the idea that some pokemon can mega evolve even though they aren't fully evolved sounds better because i feel like i remember somewhere that it was the power of bonds between trainer and pokemon and if that bond can only evolve the full evolution then its just sad i should very well be able to evolve my baby litwick into a bigger candle or lampent with better defenses
nah, that's just Gigantamax - keep Megas limited, have some Pokemon get regional variants and evolutions if we won't to have them progress further or just give them buff in their stats
Megas were always like one more evolution, which kinda makes Pokémon with no evolution or only one evolution just look like they've got a normal evolution.
Yeah, but since megas aren't a permanent gimmick, and Pokémon are getting used to adding cross evolution, it makes older Pokémon weaker in the long run.
Pokemon have been given updates in the past. They could balance the game by buffing base forms - making the Megas more viable. I mean they also have given nerfs to Pokemon like Aegislash and wolf siblings. So it's not out of place to buff everything. Kanto Pokemon actually got stat rebalance during XY and SM games specifically to fit in with new meta. And most Pokemon are not bad, and can easily be improved with small change to their stats, movesets or abilities. Pelipper and Torcoal are great examples where they were made into meta-defining Pokemon, just because they were given new abilities. Incineroar changed from mid Pokemon into top Pokemon just by having it's HA unlocked. Rillaboom with its HA and new move in Grassy Glide had similar journey. Leading to GG getting nerfed and Intimidate getting more counters.
It would still be rare considering only 5 Pokemon that can mega evolve have a BST lower than 450 and Sableye and Mawile's BST is where most Basic Pokemon that had an evo introduced with them cap out. At this point it would probably be that only NFE Pokemon that had evolutions after their gen have a shot.
the point isnt that mega evolution is the thing getting normalized, but evolving what was previously established to be "fully evolved" is what is getting normalized. chances are the new megas in Z-A wont extend into any mainline games or metas, but the opportunity is to set new precedent so that in subsequent games we can have typical evolutions on previously fully evolved pokemon.
This works since Mega Evo is temporary, almost as if it was designed to revert back, like the Talonflame in the trailer. I wouldn't mind Mega Pikachu, Eevee and Duraludon tbh. If anything I can see this for Pokémon like Dusclops and Rhydon. Heck, they might do Mega Magikarp to be as strong as it once was or even odd choices like Mew, Kirlia and Onix too.
I'm on a mix of both Profit and Dumbass here. Some of what you're saying makes sense, some Pokemon certainly would benefit from this. But at the same time, the cool part about it WAS that it's them pushing beyond their limit for you. Hell, most of them are in pain during their Mega Evolution, like Houndoom's claws being molten hot and burning it. It's the very fact that they're willing to endure such pain all to push BEYOND their limit that makes it all the more endearing to me personally. I'm fine if they change it this way, it does open the doors more, but I worry a lot of the deeper emotional meaning would be lost if they were to do this.
People are forgetting that unevolved Pokemon like Pikachu, Eevee, and Meowth could Gigantamax so there was never really an evolution cap. Though G-Max forms of these Pokemon can’t evolve.
I like this idea. I actually never fully liked Mega's BECAUSE they were temporary. I want full evolutions. But taking not fully evolved pokemon and showing them being "forced" into a different path is a very cool idea. I also like that it would open that door for some pokemon to get a 2nd or 3rd stage evolution that kind of takes from the Mega but more refined, like you mentioned. Love this, which makes me sad that it won't happen :(
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I can't see why it wouldn't! So far, to mega evolve a pokemon it must be at the(apparent) end of it's natural potential + it must have a matching megastone. G Slowbro is at this supposed endpoint, and they could just pull a Colress and artificially recreate the effect of a megastone if the regular Slowbronite doesn't work. With what Ttar said the possibilities could go even wilder, maybe G slowKING will get a mega instead.
Tbh, TTar's idea is bad. Baby Gigantamax and Z-moves were not good ideas. Mostly done for marketing reasons. Keep it all for the top evolutions. Will the regionals get megas? The likelihood is low, I hope they at least give them to counterparts. Slowking and Froslass deserve some, especially with Gallade getting one. And no Megas don't work for regionals right now - the only game where you have both Mega Evolution and Galarian Slowbro does not allow it (GO) - and I don't think they will go for it in the next game. It's unlikely Galarian forms will be there, if Kantonians are there and I think they probably will be thinking like good chunk of the fandom that they probably should focus on other Pokémon instead and not "waste" obviously limited slots for regionals. I can live without Mega Galarian Slowbro, especially as they likely will give us some Megas for gen 7-9 Pokémon. Mega Stonjourner, Mega Flygon, Mega Arctibax, Mega Bewear - we have so many potential choices that would be better to use.
@@mjm3091the same thing could apply to regionals exclusively though. People seem to really like Alolan Ninetales so how about just give a mega to the alolan form and not the original?
@@Kyle-zz6mx I don't know how that relates to what I said tbh. The issue with existing regionals is that - majority of them were not present in Kalos. You could have some of them added, but issue comes when original forms will have to already be there, like in case of Slowbro - if they decide to bring all previous megas into the game. It will be hard to justify existence of Galarian ones in the game, unless they offer them as trades or gifts. And it's even harder to justify adding an extra mega form to the same evolutionary line, when you could make an original mega for other Pokémon. With Gallade of Charizard - justification was popularity. And Alolan Ninetales fits that category, especially as Ninetales as a whole doesn't have a Mega and it isn't available in XY outside Friend Safaris. What I'm actively saying is that, if GF has limited amount of Pokemon to give a Mega to - thing won't be, if they give it to original or regional form, the issue is to give Megas to all the forms, which I don't think they will do. Sure Alolan Ninetales could get one, but it will be at cost of Kantonian Ninetales not getting one. Unless they give them one Mega like they gave the same Gigantamax to Flapple and Appletun. Or the same Mega like they pretty much did with Latios and Latias.
@@mjm3091 I would argue Z-moves were a great idea, however the design could've been polished a lot better. The idea was to have something universal every pokemon could use. The biggest issue w/ Z-moves was the long animation however if there was a way to speed it up, they would've been fine.
That's wild, I was thinking of mega evolving Scyther right before you said it. My line of reasoning is because it has the same BST as Scizor and Kleavor. Plus the best way to keep megas in the game is to make some of them permanent evolutions without such a huge jump in BST or no boost at all.
A very hard theories... I give my comments 1 by 1 I think the reason those mega(s) are mega evolution form and not natural evolution is : 1. Those pokemons are popular. A lot of people like those pokemons, so Gamefreak gave them a mega evolution spotlight. 2. Those pokemons are popular. Yups, with giving them mega, they still keep the default design, the final evolution form. So they wont get a "middle evo fate", to be skipped or forgotten because they can & have to evolve further to become stronger. About Mega Scyther : Based on the design & stats, this is make senses if they give Scyther a Mega Evolution. To complete the Scizor, Rock, Paper. But i don't think this can applied to other pokemon, like Mega Dragonair? So we have to deal with pressing B everytime it level up? and once we forgot we can't use dragonairnite item again? 😅 If this theory is based on Duraludon... Pikachu & Eevee got a GMax. For me I'm still prefer Mega Evolution is after Final Evolution. But!! This is not a bad theory, it has to be for specific pokemons, like : - Scyther - Eevee - Pokemon that evolve with holding item. - Pokemon that evolve with trades with other player. - Pokemon that evolve with special way, like Inkay maybe. Or those Paldean Pokemon that we have to walked together. Why? Because we don't have to dealing with pressing B everytime it level up. And giving a chance to player who don't have friends or don't know how to evolve their pokemon (because it is hard to guess how) a chance to use their favorite pokemon without feeling "i wanna use them but they are weak"
WHAT IF Dragonite IS the mega evolution for Dragonair (see "ite"), and they introduce an evolution for Dragonair that doesn't change the appearance as drastically and instead looks like a blue Milotic. Maybe it can bridge the gap between Dragonair and Dragonite visually.
I feel like if they do this, there has to be an unwritten rule of Pokemon needing a certain BST to be able to Mega Evolve OR the Pokemon's evolution is from after their gen. Sableye and Mawile are only 380 BST but with a few outliers, this is around the total where you stop seeing Basic Pokemon that debuted with an evolution. If G-maxes ever get retooled into Megas we'd have Pikachu and Meowth as outliers, unless....a Persian counterpart and either Alolan Raichu counts or Gorochu is born.
I like the idea of reasonably strong Pokemon that evolve through “unnatural” means (not through evolutionary stones, just trading (no item), or specific means like Inkay or Milcery) getting this treatment. I.e. Onix, Scyther, Duraludon, Gligar, Sneasle, Porygon, Seadra, and so on.
I’m glad you brought the up the restrictions with megas TTar as that was my biggest complaint. I feel more people are realizing that dispite how cool the gimmick was. It wasn’t handled the best way due to hindsight.
Makes sense just look at the old paradox Pokémon like Flutter mane, Sandy shocks and Scream Tail. They were toying with the idea of giving mega level stats to these middle staged Pokémon.
Has anyone ever played Pokken Tournament? In the game they introduced a mechanic called synergy burst where Pokemon would unleash their full power in battle and those who were capable of mega evolution would do so. Those who couldn't mega evolve and were even non-fully evolved could still gain a boost in stats without a transformation. I think this would be a good mechanic to implement in Legends Z-A as now any Pokemon could become stronger.
I actually completely agree with this because that will allow game freak to just be able to reuse megas I feel like they just try to shy away from it most of the time but this will allow ease of access and maybe even normalizing it, honestly in my own opinion I just really love the mechanic not because of the implications that it is the “strongest form” just because it’s a really cool design and concept I don’t think it has to be overpowered canonically as long as it’s allowed to come back, I think almost everyone feels the same way it’s super cool having your Pokémon take on a cool new form and it’s something that both terrastalization or even gigantamax can’t recreate, I think it would really be great if this mechanic comes back more often because personally none of the other mechanics are very memorable in fact in some of my play throughs of both Pokémon sword and scarlet I tried seeing if I could get away with not using the mechanics at all because it made the game more difficult and frankly more fun I think megas will be a welcome change from that but I really hope it isn’t insta win material because I like the challenge of using all at my disposal and still needing to think and build to fight a battle, a mechanic should be the main focus of an area I get that but it would be more fun if you actually needed it to win so it’s not just oh okay I guess I’ll use the mechanic to make the battle go faster or just to flatten some unsuspecting rival that doesn’t know how badly they are about to get their a*s kicked so I’m hoping they don’t just bring the mechanic and are like this is what you were waiting for go rush the story with some megas
I personally would rather they just buff the Pokémon with attributes from its mega form i.e. adding Adaptability to Beedrill's base form along with gaining a portion of its mega stats, and then make the mega form itself a cosmetic that you can enable by assigning its mega stone as a key item akin to DNA Splicers or Deoxys' Meteorite; just use it on it and it's enabled for that Pokémon. This way Pokémon like Mawile or Absol don't NEED an evolution to be viable, which was my biggest gripe about it. All it does is leave the base form in the dust, and I generally like both designs equally. That aside, the only benefit would be just Eviolite usage which is niche at best. Mega evolution set out to solve that problem by giving you the best of both worlds, but ended up being too polarizing competitively, and then having the issue of abandoning the Pokémon who needed the mechanic whenever it wasn't present as collateral. At least by making it a cosmetic and adapting the stats and/or abilities over, these Pokémon are at least not left completely stranded as a result of scrapping the mechanic like they have already. As an added bonus, this closes the viability gap between the two forms so that you are no longer at a disadvantage for wanting to just use the base form instead.
I could see this happening, but only if they stuck to giving Megas to Pokémon who were considered fully evolved on debut but no longer are. I’m basing this on both your Scyther example and your point about G-Max Duraludon: both of those Pokémon were introduced as if they were complete, only to given an evolution the very next generation. Perhaps Game Freak has a similar thought process along these lines and could use this limitation as a form of world building that would make us question what is considered “fully-evolved” in-universe.
idk how it'll pan out in terms of balance but Mega Ray exists so it's ok. Yh this has potential, could use that gorochu concept for a mega pika but i'd rather a mega raichu tbh
DuraLudon isn't the only exception look at SV Jigglypuff became Screamtail, Misdreavius became Flutter Mane. I think they have already shown that they would be willing to give pre-evos cool stuff like mega evolution.
I’ll be honest, I think that’s brilliant if for some reason mega’s were to come back for design purposes. Competitive will still have problems because you’re still locking choices in team building, but I’ll let the experts confirm or deny that
I believe that what gamefreak is gonna do for mega evolution is for every pokemon to be like battle bond greninja. Where instead of changing the form or the looks of a pokemon they will get a buff on their stats for that one turn only and maybe a new ability while "transformed" but if switched out they go back to normal
I actually thought about Mega Scyther, and I agree. The three stages of Scyther are so much more counterparts than they are evolution lines. Scyther and Kleavor should absolutely get Megas.
I think it would work well for Pokémon that have trade evolutions, since without an internet connection (even with that it’s unlikely you’ll get it back) or a friend you’re pretty much stuck with an unevolved and weaker pokemon.
I think you make a very good point with scyther. But only scyther. He is exactly what you said he is, a permanent form changing Pokémon rather than an evolving one. I think gmax forms are not megas and therefore duraludon, Pikachu, and Eevee (or any other non fully evolved Pokémon) are highly unlikely to get megas. The mechanics are different from one another however much they might look similar. What I do think gf might do is mega evolve the kalos starters as well as introduce a bunch of kalosian forms and mega evolve them. There are also possibilities like mega weavile or froslass of course but I doubt they'll walk that route. As you said - I don't think they want to close doors for themselves.
I can see this for Pokemon that DONT evolve from leveling so Scyther technically will go to lvl 100 without evolving unless there's an item. However I don't see this working for dragonair since the person has to keep devolving dragonair since it can't hold two items at once a mega stone and everstone. Maybe pokemon like Magmar and electabuzz may get one
Babe Wake Up, Ttar is cooking again! Honestly I'm all for this as long as i get my Mega Volcarona. Honestly Legends ZA can literally be the worst game of all time but if it introduces Mega Volcarona it'll be my favorite game ever
This is one reason, although they already solved it, in a way, with dmax. From a game dev's perspective, three other reasons likely are: GF likes to try new things and introduce new mechanics, and they don't have the resources to do that and consistently implement existing mechanics. GF also likes each region to have its own identity. Lastly, multiple combat systems would cause balancing issues that may result in other aspects of the game being cut due to limited resources as well as changed in ways that don't fit GF's vision. From a player's perspective, I want megas to be a staple. Period.
Did they ever sufficiently explain why only fully evolved Pokémon can mega evolve? Main ingredients for mega evolution are: - stone x keystone - strong trainer/Pokémon bond of trust. Sun and Moon dex entries shed light on the dark side of megas (handling overwhelming infinity/life force energy is painful). Kind of implies that immature/weak pokemon couldn’t handle it. A hidden third requirement for mega evolution. Wouldn’t rule out a few exceptions though. We’re going on inferences and I think they left the question open deliberately. Of course, it goes without saying, the only real reason why not every Pokémon can mega evolve is logistics of game design. But we’re more interested in the lore reason.
Korrina in the Tower of Mastery in XY: “… the most important element is the trust between Pokémon and trainer.” Trust being the operative word. An intangible, not part of the gameplay mechanics. Nonetheless it’s part of the underlying lore of mega evolution. I never mentioned the friendship mechanic.
@@Serperiority_ whoever made thatt description should be fired loll, the game is lying cuz all u need is a compatible keystone and bracelet to mega evolve
What mega issue lol. There is literally no issues. Having megas for solo-line and duo-line Pokemon makes sense. It was always a concept from the beginning that not every Pokémon can evolve many times and some grow faster and slower. It partly mimics our world, where some animals have multiple stages of growth. I disagree that giving mega to Pokemon like Absol or Pinsir was a mistake, because some of these Pokemon have already quite detailed designs - they don't need to grow more, they can have different forms though that could buff them. And Megas are perfect for that. The issue is that they should just buff the base forms of some of those Pokémon so Megas also get buffed - making more of them viable. Or change some of the abilities. Most broken and overused Megas were given to solo-evolution lines. Mawile and Kangaskhan being great examples. Pinsir and Heracrosss being good middle of the pack Megas. With only few third stage Megas like Charizard Y and Salamance finding usability. But then you have Pokemon like Aggron or Medicham or Beedrill that could have been given more. 2:00 It closes literally nothing. Regional forms still exist. And every one of these Pokemon still can get buffed up and get pre-evolution. The fact that Kantonian Slowbro is the only Slowpoke with Mega is example of that. And then you straight up have Paradox Pokemon and other future potential concepts they could just do. There is no issue. 2:40 Ew, bad idea. And I did expect that. You were already going for it, with the build up. I hope they never go for such worthless idea. Megas were always meant as evolution beyond evolution. And with Z-moves we already have seen its genuinely worthless idea to pander to mid-stage evolutions. We don't need another Pikachium-Z situations, no thank you. Neither we need Gigantamax Pikachu, Meowth or whatever situations, where final forms got nothing. 3:00 Neither can Poliwrath, Charizard or Victreebel. So what's your point? They literally can just make a regional variant or convergent variant or lookalike and it opens endless routes of customisation. Changing Mega lore would be bad, especially for prequel. They should instead focus on gameplay, story, maybe origins of people finding Mega Stones, including more stones that are seemingly lost to time for players in XY. Wasting mega-slots for Scyther and other Pokemon like that would be awful.
I like this idea. Scyther would be a good example since all the “forms” have the same bst. Also i like the idea of a mega dragonair since it avoids the use of a dragonite-ite mega stone
I get the point, but like Archalludon is for me the biggest counter argument, because although Mega Evolution was popular it is temporary it is not forever, and so was Gigantamax, Meowth, Pikachu, Eevee and Duralludon can gmax but they all can evolve, they can gmax because it was temporary just like Mega Evolution, also giving old pokemon who are single staged a new evo is not always good, i feel like some pokemon gotta stay one stage, i feel like giving them new moves or new abilities is so interesting
The only reason why I believe this proposition has a chance of happening is because in pkmn unite you get to choose whether or not you play your entire match out as scyther vs as scizor 😂
Imagine if the pokemon who all got a mega evolution also receive a normal evolution as well, that is just as strong as their mega evolution. So you can choose if you want this mon with a new ability and surprise effect in battle or if you want the true evolution that doesnt change in battle
I think they can just make a Megaevolution variant for other Pokémon that don't have one and call it Megaboost or something, gaining a raw BST boost. That way you keep the actual Megas special and make other regular Ookémon viable.
houndour to houndoom to houndread or houndivine split evo one dark/ghost the other fairy/fire max friendship while holding either an extended spelltag (special item) or the fae rune scroll (special item) the extended spelltag would work the same as a spelltag but repels psychic types /fairy types specifically and the fae rune scroll would work similarly repelling dark and dragon types
i think your theory works. but i also dont think gamefreak shut the door on pokemon that mega from getting an evolution or alternate evolution. i think thats partially why theyre willing to do megas again now. theyre confident that they can still give new evolutions/forms now that theyve done it with regional variants, special forms (bloodmoon ursaluna), and so on
With there being over 1000 Pokémon, I’m totally fine with them not making evolutions for some of these Mega capable Pokemon. They already have regional variants as a way out of that.
One of the main issues with mega evolutions were that they couldnt give it to everyone and it also made people use the same pokemon over and over. Which is what lead them to make Z moves useable for every pokemon and then sorta mashed the two mechanics for gmax and dynamax. Gmax eevee and pikachu cant evolve, so of course a gmax duraludon cant evolve. Honestly it could make raihan tougher by having his carry an eviolite. Since they did this once before with those 3, they can do it again for others in regards to megas. The megastones are afterall pokemon specific.
The problem with Mega Evolution is that it is not actually a natural evolution. Pokemon + Energy from a megastone causes Pokemon that cannot stand it to adapt to it by changing their appearance, and when the energy leaves them (after a loss or a duel), they return to their previous form and mega evolution of each Pokemon is theoretically possible.
The idea sounds very cool, honestly, I'd be so up for a Mega Scyther or Mega Dragonair, heck, even a Mega Graveler, but it just doesn't feel like something doable for a Mega Evolution, even if I'd like to believe it The best I could see is a split evo like how Kleavor was, for Pokemon like them, but if this does actually become real, then man, you must know Future Sight with Parental Bond or something XD
What if the mon not fully evolved had small similarities to evolutions like scyther getting claws similar to scizor and a head like kleavor. That could be cool to show off that megas unlock, even if painful, parts of them of possible evos just looking for the way to evolve similar to ursaring and the peat.
Here's your ticket, vote prophet or dumbass here
LOL i think y'all won't like this at first, but give it a chance! I just have too much fun sharing my ideas
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Yeah i agree
Thx for sharing
I'm voting prophet if only for the fact that I like the idea of having some baby pokemon like litwick or doublade get stronger
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There is a reason why gamefreak is bringing mega’s back in a legends game: its offline. This wont affect the meta game and they can introduce their new gimmick in gen 10. I hope i am wrong but i really think they just want to please us because we have been asking for mega’s for so long
I would expect update to SV actually. It likely will stay as main VGC arena for at least 2025, which means they will have to expand the ruleset and not having Pokemon like Xerneas wouldn't be logical. I expect they will give us an update and potentially bring Megas back for Post-Game.
No reason to not have Megas, especially as they could make it locked when you use Teras and with Paradox Pokemon around - Megas would counterbalance a lot of issues. And this could also be a great occasion to bring more players back, especially, if they added some additional Battle Facility game mode, maybe this time locked to the mountains that connect Paldea and Kalos. Or they could straight up copy Battle Chateu from XY and have us travel through train/planes.
Didn’t they get the legends mon in sv and also if new Megan’s come won’t people want to use them in the metagame so it is likely gen 10 may have Megas and all other gimmicks but we can only use one in the battle like they did in the anime
They’re bringing back megas for a reason. It’s people’s favorite gimmick by far, with some absolutely iconic designs like mega Rayquaza. I really hope it’ll carry on in some form going forward, even if the gimmick works differently in ZA.
@@mjm3091 They aren't gonna update SV. They didn't update BDSP to be compatible with Hisuian forms. Sun/Moon didn't get a patch that added in Zeraura. XY didn't get ORAS megas, etc
Nah, Megas have to be in Gen 10 at the very least. Legends Z-A is likely to have a different battle engine like LA. We don't even know if they're gonna reimplement held items for these Mega Stones, or just turn it into a key item like the Arceus Plates.
Mic was trying to shut him the hell up at the beginning 🤣
It tired 😂
Pikachu and Eevee got G-Max, so even before Duraludon evolved there was some precedent
So did Meowth
@@FroststormFrenzy Forgot about that one.
yeah but those were special forms not really naturally obtainable (LGPE connectivity and early purchase bonus) duraludon is just a random pokemon yk
@@ShinyCramorant Yeah, but it's *something.* I'm not for or against the idea that TTar is suggesting, just pointing out there's more basis than even he mentioned
@@ShinyCramorant Max Soup means they were all obtainable through normal means, actually
Mega Dragonaire would be freakin' wild.
The thing that comes to mind is the dragonite/dragonite fusion from Infinite Fusion
As someone who dislikes Dragonite, but really likes Dragonair, I love this idea.
Or just make a split evo…. And then maybe a mega for that.
Mega pikachu on the way.....
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Honestly it would be great, but I would rather have raichu lol
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I'm surprised that that wasn't done the first time tbh. 💀
9:39 you forgot that Pikachu Eevee and Meowth can gmax
@TyranitarTube if they start giving Megas to pokemon that aren't fully evolved, They're going to give one to their mascot. Mega PIkachu is inevitable
Masuda said in an interview they stopped megas largely because their designs were complex.
Obviously he's not there anymore, so that could also be a reason they're bringing back fresh megas.
I Agree, if Duraladon can have a G-Max form then an evolution, this theory can work for megas
I get the others but you gotta keep in mind there's gmax pikachu and eevee so they already set the tone that some gmaxes are for non fully evolved Pokemon
I don’t think they fully closed the door to evolving Pokémon that got Mega Evolutions in the past, because look at Duraludon. It got a Gigantimax form, which at the time was very similar to Mega Evolutions, and now it can evolve into Archaludon. Maybe before I would have said Pokémon that got Megas wouldn’t be able to evolve further, but not anymore. I still think there’s hope for Mawile, Sableye, Absol, etc.
Corocoro said that all the previous mega evolutions would be returning in ZA, but we don’t know anything about new mega evolutions yet. I hope there will be new ones though, but I’m not putting to much faith in it
They wouldn’t include the return of mega evolution without including new ones. That would be game sell suicide
Legendaries and starters at the very least will get some. Probably the new starters may also get them (if they decide to go for another bunch of regional evolutions - but those could actually not get megas, because they are regional). Especially with how Xerneas and Yveltal are not in SV code - they definitely are planning to giving them new forms - and Megas would be the most obvious.
@@timbahr1792 yeah it's like imagining Hisuian Growlithe wouldn't have a new evolution and would evolved into Kantonian Arcanine instead
That turned out to be mistranslation, Corocore didn't reveal any new info.
Wait corocoro has given information about ZA?
It was canonically confined that mega evolutions are dormant genes from the pokemon awakened. It makes sense for Houndoom, a dog, a domesticated animal, to appear less ferocious now compared to its Mega Evolution - its precursor. I think that can be said for a lot of the Mega-Evolutions.
It's a good idea, especially considering the argument of not being stuck in the corner.
I was thinking that if mega evolutions of unevolved Pokémon will somehow make their way in the competitive game, there may be instances where it's too obvious that a certain Pokémon would mega evolve, like why would you bring a Dragonair if not to mega evolve it. I think that an aspect of mega evolutions in the competitive was at least in theory that you would not necessarily know which Pokémon your opponent would mega evolve.
To be fair, Legends Z-A is probably going to be a single player game that will not get access to the competitive game, so things balance out.
Honestly the idea that some pokemon can mega evolve even though they aren't fully evolved sounds better because i feel like i remember somewhere that it was the power of bonds between trainer and pokemon and if that bond can only evolve the full evolution then its just sad i should very well be able to evolve my baby litwick into a bigger candle or lampent with better defenses
nah, that's just Gigantamax - keep Megas limited, have some Pokemon get regional variants and evolutions if we won't to have them progress further or just give them buff in their stats
but the bond thing doesn't make sense, you can mega evolve a mon you caught or traded like a second ago
Megas were always like one more evolution, which kinda makes Pokémon with no evolution or only one evolution just look like they've got a normal evolution.
Yeah, but since megas aren't a permanent gimmick, and Pokémon are getting used to adding cross evolution, it makes older Pokémon weaker in the long run.
Pokemon have been given updates in the past. They could balance the game by buffing base forms - making the Megas more viable. I mean they also have given nerfs to Pokemon like Aegislash and wolf siblings. So it's not out of place to buff everything.
Kanto Pokemon actually got stat rebalance during XY and SM games specifically to fit in with new meta.
And most Pokemon are not bad, and can easily be improved with small change to their stats, movesets or abilities. Pelipper and Torcoal are great examples where they were made into meta-defining Pokemon, just because they were given new abilities.
Incineroar changed from mid Pokemon into top Pokemon just by having it's HA unlocked. Rillaboom with its HA and new move in Grassy Glide had similar journey. Leading to GG getting nerfed and Intimidate getting more counters.
@@mjm3091 Kanto mon like Koffing was also made good in SWSH with its Neutral Gas ability
My man is getting crazy after the announcement of legends ZA😂
I do like this idea of Mega not been a "final" stage. But more of a power-up for the current stage.
0:22 mic had enough
Thats actually a super cool idea, a prehistoric natural evolution that is a calmer version of the forced mega evolution
I never saw Gmax as a cap since they gave it to Pikachu, Eevee, and Meowth.
Gmax wasn’t quite capping like mega’s were because there was Meowth, Eevee and Pikachu though, but I agree with this point.
You know what… I’m not mad at this theory, but I like how special Megas are and don’t really want them to be normalized that much
It would still be rare considering only 5 Pokemon that can mega evolve have a BST lower than 450 and Sableye and Mawile's BST is where most Basic Pokemon that had an evo introduced with them cap out. At this point it would probably be that only NFE Pokemon that had evolutions after their gen have a shot.
the point isnt that mega evolution is the thing getting normalized, but evolving what was previously established to be "fully evolved" is what is getting normalized. chances are the new megas in Z-A wont extend into any mainline games or metas, but the opportunity is to set new precedent so that in subsequent games we can have typical evolutions on previously fully evolved pokemon.
This works since Mega Evo is temporary, almost as if it was designed to revert back, like the Talonflame in the trailer.
I wouldn't mind Mega Pikachu, Eevee and Duraludon tbh. If anything I can see this for Pokémon like Dusclops and Rhydon.
Heck, they might do Mega Magikarp to be as strong as it once was or even odd choices like Mew, Kirlia and Onix too.
I'm on a mix of both Profit and Dumbass here. Some of what you're saying makes sense, some Pokemon certainly would benefit from this. But at the same time, the cool part about it WAS that it's them pushing beyond their limit for you. Hell, most of them are in pain during their Mega Evolution, like Houndoom's claws being molten hot and burning it. It's the very fact that they're willing to endure such pain all to push BEYOND their limit that makes it all the more endearing to me personally. I'm fine if they change it this way, it does open the doors more, but I worry a lot of the deeper emotional meaning would be lost if they were to do this.
This would actually be so awesome. Like giving branched evos without having to commit, or making mega evolutions a tool for early games
People are forgetting that unevolved Pokemon like Pikachu, Eevee, and Meowth could Gigantamax so there was never really an evolution cap. Though G-Max forms of these Pokemon can’t evolve.
Ideas :
1. Pikachu -> Mega Pikachu
&
Pikachu -> Gorochu
2. Eevee -> Mega Eevee (Protean)
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Eevee -> Draceon/Metaleon/Toxeon etc
3. Dragonite -> Mega Dragonite
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Dragonair -> Split Evolution
4. Regional Altaria -> New Evolution (No Mega)
Or
Swablu -> New Evolutions -> Further Evolutions
5. Scyther -> Mega Scyther
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Pre Evolution -> Scyther
Or
Scizor/Kleavor -> New Evolution
I like this idea. I actually never fully liked Mega's BECAUSE they were temporary. I want full evolutions. But taking not fully evolved pokemon and showing them being "forced" into a different path is a very cool idea. I also like that it would open that door for some pokemon to get a 2nd or 3rd stage evolution that kind of takes from the Mega but more refined, like you mentioned. Love this, which makes me sad that it won't happen :(
That mic was running away because it already knew this idea isnt it lol
blud was battling with his mic at the beginning
I would love you being a prophet about this.👍🏻
This sounds like another way for my boy Raichu to be left out again
I’m here from 2025 and I want to say I’m proud of you chief you’ve single handedly saved the Pokémon franchise. In the future your actually the new riddler khu so keep up the work. Alright let me get back to my timeline I have work tomorrow.
My question is what is the stopping point in mega evolution. Will Galarian slowbro be able to use it?
I can't see why it wouldn't! So far, to mega evolve a pokemon it must be at the(apparent) end of it's natural potential + it must have a matching megastone.
G Slowbro is at this supposed endpoint, and they could just pull a Colress and artificially recreate the effect of a megastone if the regular Slowbronite doesn't work.
With what Ttar said the possibilities could go even wilder, maybe G slowKING will get a mega instead.
Tbh, TTar's idea is bad. Baby Gigantamax and Z-moves were not good ideas. Mostly done for marketing reasons. Keep it all for the top evolutions.
Will the regionals get megas? The likelihood is low, I hope they at least give them to counterparts. Slowking and Froslass deserve some, especially with Gallade getting one.
And no Megas don't work for regionals right now - the only game where you have both Mega Evolution and Galarian Slowbro does not allow it (GO) - and I don't think they will go for it in the next game. It's unlikely Galarian forms will be there, if Kantonians are there and I think they probably will be thinking like good chunk of the fandom that they probably should focus on other Pokémon instead and not "waste" obviously limited slots for regionals. I can live without Mega Galarian Slowbro, especially as they likely will give us some Megas for gen 7-9 Pokémon.
Mega Stonjourner, Mega Flygon, Mega Arctibax, Mega Bewear - we have so many potential choices that would be better to use.
@@mjm3091the same thing could apply to regionals exclusively though. People seem to really like Alolan Ninetales so how about just give a mega to the alolan form and not the original?
@@Kyle-zz6mx I don't know how that relates to what I said tbh. The issue with existing regionals is that - majority of them were not present in Kalos. You could have some of them added, but issue comes when original forms will have to already be there, like in case of Slowbro - if they decide to bring all previous megas into the game.
It will be hard to justify existence of Galarian ones in the game, unless they offer them as trades or gifts. And it's even harder to justify adding an extra mega form to the same evolutionary line, when you could make an original mega for other Pokémon.
With Gallade of Charizard - justification was popularity. And Alolan Ninetales fits that category, especially as Ninetales as a whole doesn't have a Mega and it isn't available in XY outside Friend Safaris. What I'm actively saying is that, if GF has limited amount of Pokemon to give a Mega to - thing won't be, if they give it to original or regional form, the issue is to give Megas to all the forms, which I don't think they will do. Sure Alolan Ninetales could get one, but it will be at cost of Kantonian Ninetales not getting one. Unless they give them one Mega like they gave the same Gigantamax to Flapple and Appletun. Or the same Mega like they pretty much did with Latios and Latias.
@@mjm3091 I would argue Z-moves were a great idea, however the design could've been polished a lot better. The idea was to have something universal every pokemon could use. The biggest issue w/ Z-moves was the long animation however if there was a way to speed it up, they would've been fine.
I totally agree! But I think they would introduce this with a more popular unevolved Pokémon, like Mega Pikachu or Mega Eevee
Mega Eevee is straight outta Pokemon insurgence lmao. That concept was awesome
Bro wants mega Happy so bad
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That's wild, I was thinking of mega evolving Scyther right before you said it. My line of reasoning is because it has the same BST as Scizor and Kleavor. Plus the best way to keep megas in the game is to make some of them permanent evolutions without such a huge jump in BST or no boost at all.
A very hard theories... I give my comments 1 by 1
I think the reason those mega(s) are mega evolution form and not natural evolution is :
1. Those pokemons are popular. A lot of people like those pokemons, so Gamefreak gave them a mega evolution spotlight.
2. Those pokemons are popular. Yups, with giving them mega, they still keep the default design, the final evolution form. So they wont get a "middle evo fate", to be skipped or forgotten because they can & have to evolve further to become stronger.
About Mega Scyther :
Based on the design & stats, this is make senses if they give Scyther a Mega Evolution. To complete the Scizor, Rock, Paper.
But i don't think this can applied to other pokemon, like Mega Dragonair? So we have to deal with pressing B everytime it level up? and once we forgot we can't use dragonairnite item again? 😅
If this theory is based on Duraludon... Pikachu & Eevee got a GMax.
For me I'm still prefer Mega Evolution is after Final Evolution.
But!! This is not a bad theory, it has to be for specific pokemons, like :
- Scyther
- Eevee
- Pokemon that evolve with holding item.
- Pokemon that evolve with trades with other player.
- Pokemon that evolve with special way, like Inkay maybe. Or those Paldean Pokemon that we have to walked together.
Why? Because we don't have to dealing with pressing B everytime it level up.
And giving a chance to player who don't have friends or don't know how to evolve their pokemon (because it is hard to guess how) a chance to use their favorite pokemon without feeling "i wanna use them but they are weak"
Mega Jigglypuff but its eerily similar to Screamtail
Mega Eevee but it's Stellar Type
This idea is actually good, I kinda wish they could do megas for all Pokémon, even pre-evos. Definitely too much work though
WHAT IF Dragonite IS the mega evolution for Dragonair (see "ite"), and they introduce an evolution for Dragonair that doesn't change the appearance as drastically and instead looks like a blue Milotic. Maybe it can bridge the gap between Dragonair and Dragonite visually.
🤔
mega eevee from insurgence gotta be the coolest idea for a mega ever, id be so happy if the did something like that
I'm from 2025 and my boy is a PROPHET
I feel like if they do this, there has to be an unwritten rule of Pokemon needing a certain BST to be able to Mega Evolve OR the Pokemon's evolution is from after their gen. Sableye and Mawile are only 380 BST but with a few outliers, this is around the total where you stop seeing Basic Pokemon that debuted with an evolution. If G-maxes ever get retooled into Megas we'd have Pikachu and Meowth as outliers, unless....a Persian counterpart and either Alolan Raichu counts or Gorochu is born.
5:07 i thought bro was flipping us off XD. But it was just his ring finger(he got some long fingers though)
I like the idea of reasonably strong Pokemon that evolve through “unnatural” means (not through evolutionary stones, just trading (no item), or specific means like Inkay or Milcery) getting this treatment. I.e. Onix, Scyther, Duraludon, Gligar, Sneasle, Porygon, Seadra, and so on.
It's like Gygantamax kantonian Meowth, but once evolved it loses that Gygantamax, So I can see unevolved mega Pokémon.
i still cant get over that theres just casually steins gate music in the back
I’m glad you brought the up the restrictions with megas TTar as that was my biggest complaint. I feel more people are realizing that dispite how cool the gimmick was. It wasn’t handled the best way due to hindsight.
Makes sense just look at the old paradox Pokémon like Flutter mane, Sandy shocks and Scream Tail. They were toying with the idea of giving mega level stats to these middle staged Pokémon.
Has anyone ever played Pokken Tournament? In the game they introduced a mechanic called synergy burst where Pokemon would unleash their full power in battle and those who were capable of mega evolution would do so. Those who couldn't mega evolve and were even non-fully evolved could still gain a boost in stats without a transformation. I think this would be a good mechanic to implement in Legends Z-A as now any Pokemon could become stronger.
I actually completely agree with this because that will allow game freak to just be able to reuse megas I feel like they just try to shy away from it most of the time but this will allow ease of access and maybe even normalizing it, honestly in my own opinion I just really love the mechanic not because of the implications that it is the “strongest form” just because it’s a really cool design and concept I don’t think it has to be overpowered canonically as long as it’s allowed to come back, I think almost everyone feels the same way it’s super cool having your Pokémon take on a cool new form and it’s something that both terrastalization or even gigantamax can’t recreate, I think it would really be great if this mechanic comes back more often because personally none of the other mechanics are very memorable in fact in some of my play throughs of both Pokémon sword and scarlet I tried seeing if I could get away with not using the mechanics at all because it made the game more difficult and frankly more fun I think megas will be a welcome change from that but I really hope it isn’t insta win material because I like the challenge of using all at my disposal and still needing to think and build to fight a battle, a mechanic should be the main focus of an area I get that but it would be more fun if you actually needed it to win so it’s not just oh okay I guess I’ll use the mechanic to make the battle go faster or just to flatten some unsuspecting rival that doesn’t know how badly they are about to get their a*s kicked so I’m hoping they don’t just bring the mechanic and are like this is what you were waiting for go rush the story with some megas
I liked how the mega stones were key items in lets go, i hope they keep it that way
That microphone is really trying to get some screentime
I personally would rather they just buff the Pokémon with attributes from its mega form i.e. adding Adaptability to Beedrill's base form along with gaining a portion of its mega stats, and then make the mega form itself a cosmetic that you can enable by assigning its mega stone as a key item akin to DNA Splicers or Deoxys' Meteorite; just use it on it and it's enabled for that Pokémon. This way Pokémon like Mawile or Absol don't NEED an evolution to be viable, which was my biggest gripe about it. All it does is leave the base form in the dust, and I generally like both designs equally. That aside, the only benefit would be just Eviolite usage which is niche at best. Mega evolution set out to solve that problem by giving you the best of both worlds, but ended up being too polarizing competitively, and then having the issue of abandoning the Pokémon who needed the mechanic whenever it wasn't present as collateral. At least by making it a cosmetic and adapting the stats and/or abilities over, these Pokémon are at least not left completely stranded as a result of scrapping the mechanic like they have already. As an added bonus, this closes the viability gap between the two forms so that you are no longer at a disadvantage for wanting to just use the base form instead.
I could see this happening, but only if they stuck to giving Megas to Pokémon who were considered fully evolved on debut but no longer are. I’m basing this on both your Scyther example and your point about G-Max Duraludon: both of those Pokémon were introduced as if they were complete, only to given an evolution the very next generation. Perhaps Game Freak has a similar thought process along these lines and could use this limitation as a form of world building that would make us question what is considered “fully-evolved” in-universe.
idk how it'll pan out in terms of balance but Mega Ray exists so it's ok. Yh this has potential, could use that gorochu concept for a mega pika but i'd rather a mega raichu tbh
Even if this doesn’t happen, this is definitely the right way to take mega evolution.
DuraLudon isn't the only exception look at SV Jigglypuff became Screamtail, Misdreavius became Flutter Mane. I think they have already shown that they would be willing to give pre-evos cool stuff like mega evolution.
a great video as always but your disagreement with your mic stand at the beginning had no right being so funny lol
The new mic stand already started fighting back
I’ll be honest, I think that’s brilliant if for some reason mega’s were to come back for design purposes. Competitive will still have problems because you’re still locking choices in team building, but I’ll let the experts confirm or deny that
I believe that what gamefreak is gonna do for mega evolution is for every pokemon to be like battle bond greninja. Where instead of changing the form or the looks of a pokemon they will get a buff on their stats for that one turn only and maybe a new ability while "transformed" but if switched out they go back to normal
I actually thought about Mega Scyther, and I agree. The three stages of Scyther are so much more counterparts than they are evolution lines. Scyther and Kleavor should absolutely get Megas.
I think it would work well for Pokémon that have trade evolutions, since without an internet connection (even with that it’s unlikely you’ll get it back) or a friend you’re pretty much stuck with an unevolved and weaker pokemon.
I think you make a very good point with scyther. But only scyther. He is exactly what you said he is, a permanent form changing Pokémon rather than an evolving one.
I think gmax forms are not megas and therefore duraludon, Pikachu, and Eevee (or any other non fully evolved Pokémon) are highly unlikely to get megas. The mechanics are different from one another however much they might look similar.
What I do think gf might do is mega evolve the kalos starters as well as introduce a bunch of kalosian forms and mega evolve them.
There are also possibilities like mega weavile or froslass of course but I doubt they'll walk that route. As you said - I don't think they want to close doors for themselves.
I can see this for Pokemon that DONT evolve from leveling so Scyther technically will go to lvl 100 without evolving unless there's an item. However I don't see this working for dragonair since the person has to keep devolving dragonair since it can't hold two items at once a mega stone and everstone. Maybe pokemon like Magmar and electabuzz may get one
man nailed it - say hello to mega eevee Z and mega pikachu A
Babe Wake Up, Ttar is cooking again!
Honestly I'm all for this as long as i get my Mega Volcarona. Honestly Legends ZA can literally be the worst game of all time but if it introduces Mega Volcarona it'll be my favorite game ever
This is one reason, although they already solved it, in a way, with dmax. From a game dev's perspective, three other reasons likely are: GF likes to try new things and introduce new mechanics, and they don't have the resources to do that and consistently implement existing mechanics. GF also likes each region to have its own identity. Lastly, multiple combat systems would cause balancing issues that may result in other aspects of the game being cut due to limited resources as well as changed in ways that don't fit GF's vision.
From a player's perspective, I want megas to be a staple. Period.
Did they ever sufficiently explain why only fully evolved Pokémon can mega evolve? Main ingredients for mega evolution are:
- stone x keystone
- strong trainer/Pokémon bond of trust.
Sun and Moon dex entries shed light on the dark side of megas (handling overwhelming infinity/life force energy is painful). Kind of implies that immature/weak pokemon couldn’t handle it. A hidden third requirement for mega evolution. Wouldn’t rule out a few exceptions though. We’re going on inferences and I think they left the question open deliberately.
Of course, it goes without saying, the only real reason why not every Pokémon can mega evolve is logistics of game design. But we’re more interested in the lore reason.
we dont even need high friendship with pokemon to mega evollve
Korrina in the Tower of Mastery in XY:
“… the most important element is the trust between Pokémon and trainer.”
Trust being the operative word. An intangible, not part of the gameplay mechanics. Nonetheless it’s part of the underlying lore of mega evolution. I never mentioned the friendship mechanic.
@@Serperiority_ this isnt anime, were talking about the game
@@broidkanymore-zc4lt I was already quoting the game’s own exact words explaining the concept of mega evolution.
@@Serperiority_ whoever made thatt description should be fired loll, the game is lying cuz all u need is a compatible keystone and bracelet to mega evolve
Pokémon gotta hire you ASAP, TTar
What mega issue lol. There is literally no issues. Having megas for solo-line and duo-line Pokemon makes sense. It was always a concept from the beginning that not every Pokémon can evolve many times and some grow faster and slower. It partly mimics our world, where some animals have multiple stages of growth.
I disagree that giving mega to Pokemon like Absol or Pinsir was a mistake, because some of these Pokemon have already quite detailed designs - they don't need to grow more, they can have different forms though that could buff them. And Megas are perfect for that.
The issue is that they should just buff the base forms of some of those Pokémon so Megas also get buffed - making more of them viable. Or change some of the abilities.
Most broken and overused Megas were given to solo-evolution lines. Mawile and Kangaskhan being great examples. Pinsir and Heracrosss being good middle of the pack Megas. With only few third stage Megas like Charizard Y and Salamance finding usability. But then you have Pokemon like Aggron or Medicham or Beedrill that could have been given more.
2:00 It closes literally nothing. Regional forms still exist. And every one of these Pokemon still can get buffed up and get pre-evolution. The fact that Kantonian Slowbro is the only Slowpoke with Mega is example of that. And then you straight up have Paradox Pokemon and other future potential concepts they could just do. There is no issue.
2:40 Ew, bad idea. And I did expect that. You were already going for it, with the build up. I hope they never go for such worthless idea. Megas were always meant as evolution beyond evolution. And with Z-moves we already have seen its genuinely worthless idea to pander to mid-stage evolutions. We don't need another Pikachium-Z situations, no thank you. Neither we need Gigantamax Pikachu, Meowth or whatever situations, where final forms got nothing.
3:00 Neither can Poliwrath, Charizard or Victreebel. So what's your point? They literally can just make a regional variant or convergent variant or lookalike and it opens endless routes of customisation. Changing Mega lore would be bad, especially for prequel. They should instead focus on gameplay, story, maybe origins of people finding Mega Stones, including more stones that are seemingly lost to time for players in XY. Wasting mega-slots for Scyther and other Pokemon like that would be awful.
I like this idea. Scyther would be a good example since all the “forms” have the same bst. Also i like the idea of a mega dragonair since it avoids the use of a dragonite-ite mega stone
I get the point, but like Archalludon is for me the biggest counter argument, because although Mega Evolution was popular it is temporary it is not forever, and so was Gigantamax, Meowth, Pikachu, Eevee and Duralludon can gmax but they all can evolve, they can gmax because it was temporary just like Mega Evolution, also giving old pokemon who are single staged a new evo is not always good, i feel like some pokemon gotta stay one stage, i feel like giving them new moves or new abilities is so interesting
The only reason why I believe this proposition has a chance of happening is because in pkmn unite you get to choose whether or not you play your entire match out as scyther vs as scizor 😂
Imagine if the pokemon who all got a mega evolution also receive a normal evolution as well, that is just as strong as their mega evolution. So you can choose if you want this mon with a new ability and surprise effect in battle or if you want the true evolution that doesnt change in battle
That makes sense. Also would love mega evolved Dragonair
I think they can just make a Megaevolution variant for other Pokémon that don't have one and call it Megaboost or something, gaining a raw BST boost. That way you keep the actual Megas special and make other regular Ookémon viable.
For all we know, they could Megaevolve EVERY Pokemon in the game, it's not like we're getting Megas back any time soon after Z-A. Or maybe ever.
The one problem with this idea is that using an item to mega evolve would be inferior to just evolving them
Wishful thinking, you become the prophet.
the prophet TTar strikes again!
houndour to houndoom to houndread or houndivine split evo one dark/ghost the other fairy/fire max friendship while holding either an extended spelltag (special item) or the fae rune scroll (special item) the extended spelltag would work the same as a spelltag but repels psychic types /fairy types specifically and the fae rune scroll would work similarly repelling dark and dragon types
i think your theory works. but i also dont think gamefreak shut the door on pokemon that mega from getting an evolution or alternate evolution. i think thats partially why theyre willing to do megas again now. theyre confident that they can still give new evolutions/forms now that theyve done it with regional variants, special forms (bloodmoon ursaluna), and so on
I really can't wait to play this game... It has limitless potential! Unlike any I've felt from all past pokemon games, since sun and moon maybe.
If it opens up a permanent Absol evolution I'm down.
With there being over 1000 Pokémon, I’m totally fine with them not making evolutions for some of these Mega capable Pokemon.
They already have regional variants as a way out of that.
One of the main issues with mega evolutions were that they couldnt give it to everyone and it also made people use the same pokemon over and over. Which is what lead them to make Z moves useable for every pokemon and then sorta mashed the two mechanics for gmax and dynamax. Gmax eevee and pikachu cant evolve, so of course a gmax duraludon cant evolve. Honestly it could make raihan tougher by having his carry an eviolite.
Since they did this once before with those 3, they can do it again for others in regards to megas. The megastones are afterall pokemon specific.
Almost yippeeee! Loving the content as always man :)
This is genuinely a genius 5 brain idea.
The problem with Mega Evolution is that it is not actually a natural evolution. Pokemon + Energy from a megastone causes Pokemon that cannot stand it to adapt to it by changing their appearance, and when the energy leaves them (after a loss or a duel), they return to their previous form and mega evolution of each Pokemon is theoretically possible.
This is hype as hell actually I’m all on board
The idea sounds very cool, honestly, I'd be so up for a Mega Scyther or Mega Dragonair, heck, even a Mega Graveler, but it just doesn't feel like something doable for a Mega Evolution, even if I'd like to believe it
The best I could see is a split evo like how Kleavor was, for Pokemon like them, but if this does actually become real, then man, you must know Future Sight with Parental Bond or something XD
Duraladon and Archaladon, proves it could happen...
That microphone malfunction got me laughing.
What if the mon not fully evolved had small similarities to evolutions like scyther getting claws similar to scizor and a head like kleavor. That could be cool to show off that megas unlock, even if painful, parts of them of possible evos just looking for the way to evolve similar to ursaring and the peat.