Irrefutable Evidence For God...Refuted! | The Atheist Experience: Throwback
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That dude has a degree in Biology and I’m a trillionaire… 😂
"Lying for Jesus" is a thing.
@@travis1240 what would Jesus do?
He might have something like that from some creationist shill school.
Some evangelicals will learn the science and pretend they believe it long enough to get the degree. Then they throw everything but the letters out the window, because having the MS or the PhD gets them extra credit in their communities. "The universe was created in six 24-hour days and you can believe me because I have a PhD in Physics." Or they get their doctorate from a Christian university that propagates the Bible nonsense in their science departments.
I'm shopping like a Temullionaire
"I find it somewhat ironic that those who demand evidence for my disbelief in their god are usually quite happy to believe in their god without any evidence whatsoever." -- Hitchens
And even more so, have no problem with _anyone_ believing in their god with no evidence or even understanding of what they believe in. Like little kids.
Funny how that works huh?
FACT: If you had evidence, you would not need faith.
"I will irrefutably prove that unicorns are real by showing how gravity doesn't exist."
you say that... but a lot of flat earthers deny the existence of gravity, and their belief in a flat earth is grounded in their religion.
@@josiahgittman1268 Guess we can go unicorn hunting then. ;)
@@AtheistReligionIsCancer First: atheism is not a religion, any more than "not having a hobby" is a hobby or being bald is a hair color.
Second: According to atheism nothing is good or evil, because it's not a philosophy of life. It's a conclusion based on lack of evidence for god.
It's like asking "According to not believing in fairy godmother, why is genocide not evil?" The question makes no sense.
I'm betting what you think you're asking is: "If there is no god why would genocide be evil"
In that case its simple: Everyone has personal experience just like you do, it's capable of suffering. When someone imparts suffering on you they are evil towards you. Therefore if you impart suffering on others, you are evil to them.
If you are capable of murdering a large group of people, most likely you are capable of murdering a different large group of people. Therefore you're evil to them as well.
In order to protect themselves, they must ensure no one can just go around murdering people as they please. So people agree that murdering is evil, and makes you an evil person that must be punished, and your actions condemned so you don't try to murder anyone.
"CHECKMATE ATHEISTS!"
@@MyReligionIs2DoGoodPlease don't go hunting unicorns; those rhinoceroses might go extinct.
Once they start quoting their buybull as irrefutable evidence, I immediately tune out. Nothing to see here.
a god who went from bloodthirsty to forgiving sure doesn't like to forgive you for missing attendance these days.
@@HunterAnsorge-ok9jkthe old testament god makes sense as the god of one tribe of desert nomads who settled down in the Lavant.
@@davidszeremi1786 but god made all man pick a lane
@@HunterAnsorge-ok9jk yet he can only talk to the members of one semitic tribe in the middle east up to 70ce and then only people reading their writings? There's something seriously not omnipresent or all powerful about this god
Citing their magic book and having zero knowledge about its history it’s recycling and repurposing of myths and how it’s anything but divine
No way this guy has a science degree, unless he found it in a cereal box.
Maybe from Bob Jones University?
Which is even less prestigious than from a cereal box.
I'm sure he knows more than a Bible thumper.
He's an outright liar and sophist for jerbus.
The problem is universities hand out degrees to anyone who basically just shows up. You don’t have to be smart or ever understand the scientific method to be a technical ‘scientist’
Fortunately, just like every Karen they are AND doctors AND lawyers AND president of the HOA, AND, last but not least, CEO of companies....
I wish I had a nickel for every time "irrefutable proof" turned out to be a personal experience.
"until you delude yourself, the evidence is refutable" -Caller
Glad you caught that because he really did admit he's ignorant willingly
This is what this caller's arguement sounded like to me:
"Science isnt real!l Only through the power of woblekrank can our dingleflops be garmafungled!"
😂😂😂
Makes perfect sense!
The moral of the story; take care what you do with your dingleflops :p
Sounds like something that ends in a hospital visit!
I got the same impression.
A lot of these calls could be avoided if the phoners bothered searching the word "evidence" in the dictionary.
Don't let that pesky evidence stop you lying for jesus.
When you think philosophical arguments based on presuppositions are hard evidence, you get a lot of these people who don't really understand what evidence really is.
If they screened out everyone who was wrong, we wouldn't be listeners.
Or at least take English 1a. Theisis statement or claim then support of the theisis with research.
That wouldn’t stop them. The fundamental requirement for faith is to believe something without proof. That can manifest itself in many forms. One of those forms is the redefinition of words and widely accepted terms. The result is that the word “evidence” has a completely different definition, as long as it serves the purpose of affirming their argument. Much in the same way that the common rebuttal “a God’s day is not the same as a human’s day” is used when questioned about the 7 days.
Believers often confuse "to FEEL something" with "a TRUTH of something else". And don't take on account that feelings often FAIL.
Like how people who have different beliefs have the same feelings
It's crazy how they think non believers are the only ones that can get their beliefs and ideas through feelings, when they constantly claim it's a feeling that made them believe in the first place. They will literally claim people who've had a feeling of connecting with god and/or the afterlife have proven god and the afterlife.
Yes, the strength of the feeling is paramount. What believers also teach their children (and each other) is to be certain. Essentially, they're teaching their children they can achieve the strong feelings by expressing certainty of feeling, and they cement the feelings and certainty in place by validating with others. And the validation is what allows enough parents to actually pass this stuff onto their children so the meme survives another generation.
It's one big long-winded bootstrap exercise where you pull on straps for years or decades and finally realize it wasn't a boot you were trying to pull on. It was the idea of a boot and now your feet are cold and soaked.
•metaphors are the best!•
I agree that emotions are not necessarily illogical or irrational, until it comes to the defense of ideas. If a new idea appeals to my intellect, I will listen and give it a chance. If a new idea only has emotional appeal, I dismiss it out of hand. (“I believe in the Holy Spirit/Jesus/whatever because of how it makes me feel”, “I felt the presence of God,” “I feel it is true,” etc., ad nauseum.) Don’t tell me how you feel. That is irrelevant. Tell me what you THINK. If you can’t tell me what you think (or if you don’t know how to think), please go away.
@@johnsperry9494 I don't dismiss emotional appeals out of hand, but I'm very skeptical of them. As soon as an idea believed rationally comes in conflict with the emotional appeal, the emotional appeal gets set aside in my brain.
I'm going to admit, though, that my political biases are partially emotional and they don't get dismissed so easily.
Patrick provided a lot of irrefutable evidence. Evidence that he doesn't understand evolution, evidence that he doesn't understand what science is, evidence that he can't make an argument, evidence that he doesn't understand what a logical fallacy is and, most importantly, evidence that he does not understand what "evidence" means.
Exactly!
And evidence that he's a liar... Without a doubt, he's no a biologist.
This is the equivalent of a surgeon having a degree in medicine but refusing to believe surgery works.
Or suggesting prayer after surgery rather than painkillers and antibiotics.
topic skipping is a hallmark of a bogus argument when it knows it's lost.
I once had a debate with a sister's boyfriend on this stuff. That's all he did. He'd start a point then I'd refute it, then he'd start something else, then I'd refute it. That's all it was and he still believes I didn't show why it's all bogus. Indoctrination and self deception is rough.
He claims he has a degree in biology but can't even understand 3rd grade level evolutionary biology.
He is right though, I also have a Bsc in biochemistry and Mphil in clinical Biochemistry. They do teach you evolution in school but when you get to degree level they tell you evolution is impossible.
@@AbdellaHabib-pj6yh Lol. You've been spamming the same comment everywhere. No one believes you.
You're the kind of guy to bring up your fake degree every chance you get, even when a server asks you if you want a water. "You know, I drank water when I graduated with my biochemistry and philosophy degree."
@@AbdellaHabib-pj6yh
why are you lying?
@@777Skeptic Your just overly skeptical to the point you lie. Your name suits
@@AbdellaHabib-pj6yh No one believes your fake credentials. Cry about it.
"I got irrefutable evidence for God!" -- "okay what is it?" -- "Gargle gargle platitude platitude." -- "okay thank you."
"I got irrefutable evidence of God.... but im not gonna tell you nanynanybooboo😝"
Christian: I got irrefutable evidence for god!
Me: Really? What is it?
Christian: According to (insert Bible verse here)...
Me: (Immediately cutting him off) Stop right there... You cannot quote from a book of horror stories, fairy tales and fiction as proof of anything. If - according to you - you find that as proof, I grew up with a book that told a story about three bears you should hear. Let us also not forget about the valuable lesson taught to us by the three pigs, in a separate story, about the importance of sound home construction!
Christian: Are you calling Jesus a Liar?
Me: No. I'm calling him fictional!
The sad part is that caller thought he won. Not realizing they hung up on him because what he said was demonstrably moronic.
Delusional people always win. That's the beauty of it.
@@louseveryann2181Like the proverbial pigeon kicking over its chess pieces. 😜
He'll tell his friends how he owned an atheist one time and recall strawman versions of the atheist arguments. But he'll never share this RUclips link with his friends.
Hopefully, his friends eventually get curious, get the impression it's easy to defeat an atheist, and end up on Reddit or RUclips comments with real atheists instead of storytold ones, only to get destroyed.
Oh man.... And I was so ready to start believing in a God today... Guess I'll have to wait for another caller with irrefutable proof.
Yeah if you're holding your breath for something beyond logical fallacies, getting the feels or "my holy book says", you're going to suffocate.
I wonder what the callers really think after. Probably 'nailed it, got them atheists told'. Damn it's entertaining though. Tune in next week for more irrefutable evidence that the tooth fairy was born of a virgin yeti
Yeti, mother of tooth fairy, preserve us.
Don't worry, I wouldn't be surprised if there is another one just coming around the corner.
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED Ah, how adorable, you've compiled a list of what you consider "clear observable evidence" to support your belief in a divine creator. It's almost cute how you cling to these points as if they're the ultimate mic drop in the debate over the existence of God.
But let's be real here. Your list reads like a compilation of cherry-picked observations and half-baked arguments, sprinkled with a generous dose of confirmation bias. It's like you're trying to build a Lego tower of pseudo-science and calling it the Eiffel Tower of divine revelation.
I mean, seriously? Abiogenesis as an unproven hypothesis at best? Do you even understand the difference between abiogenesis and evolution? Or the nuances of scientific inquiry, for that matter?
And don't even get me started on your "scientific fact" about the positioning of celestial bodies. Last time I checked, science doesn't operate on the whims of your personal convictions.
But hey, if you find solace in your little list of supposed evidence, knock yourself out. Just don't expect rational folks to be swayed by your condescending attempts at persuasion. Maybe spend less time preaching and more time cracking open a science textbook. Just a thought.
This guy claiming to be a biologist and not believing in evolution... Holy shit...🤣
Not just that, he clearly doesn’t even understand how evidence works or what’s considered “good” evidence. I don’t believe one second that guy has a bachelor’s degree in ANY field of science, much less biology. Unless he got it from Prager U.
I don't "believe in" Evolution either.
I understand what it is and how it works.
@@louseveryann2181 the point is that a biologist would understand evolution and not deny it. Evolution and biology are basically the same thing.
@@travis1240
And my point is that there are more words in the dictionary than "believe".
@@travis1240
AND my point is that we must shed these ancient proto-human concepts like "believe".
I THINK therefore I am.....
You can tell a xian is about to try to gaslight you and avoid answering direct questions the moment they say "let me ask you this".
The last ten seconds were hilarious!
-"I think I'm rubbing off on you."
-"Don't do that on the show"
Spoiler alert! ⚠
Ironically, both of these hosts split from the ACA
How is that ironic?
@@roberthill799 they were worried about appropriate behavior for the show
Bro got his degree from Prager U.
😆😂🤣
Even prager u "students" have a better grasp of evolution than Patrick
@@Not_An_EVwhich is TERRIFYING
"I have a Bachelor's in biology and I'm working on my Master's in biomedical sciences."
□ - Doubt
He's also the president of the HOA, a doctor, a lawyer AND CEO of companies...
my first two initials are D R ... that makes me a doctor, right?
@@louseveryann2181oh I fully believe he's an HOA president. He has that arrogant personality down.
I really wish Theists would exercise some honesty every once in a while. I know that logic isn't really their thing but for fuck sake
Honesty would risk giving up on their favorite fairytale tho.
Honesty would cede too much ground to reality.
@@AtheistReligionIsCancer "pdf file atheists "
Last I checked, Muhammad was a real life pdf file with evidence to boot and you lot hold him in high regard, and you have the gut to call someone a pdf file who you have no evidence for?
Heck some muslims follow in this teaching to prey on little girls to this day... ooh, you're projecting
@@AtheistReligionIsCancer
Amgery little twerp has a personal beef with the truth...
@@AtheistReligionIsCancer
You have no idea what you’re talking about and it’s hilarious
This is why religion can be so dangerous.
Certainly, religion can be dangerous. But so can atheism. Almost any belief system can be perverted to cause damage. The idea is to just understand that.
Both religion and atheism have enormous body counts.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
@@sanjosemike3137Atheism isn't a belief system. It's choosing not to accept a belief system, specifically one that is based on a god. If belief systems are dangerous as you are implying, then not accepting them because of the lack of evidence for them, which is called atheism, obviously helps to avoid that danger.
@@TB-wvvvw Yes, I expect that from atheists. But it is not correct. All belief systems come with baggage. Just as religions have attached world views, so does the rejection of them also have attached worldviews.
One cannot get away with excluding what in German is called: Weltanschauung. Sorry, you can't escape them just by disavowing religion.
You're also stuck with what your "other" non-belief system has holding on to it.
You may value your Weltanschauung more than the other. But you are still stuck with it.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
@@TB-wvvvw That is not correct. I expect and have heard that argument from atheists. All belief systems come with baggage. Atheism also has baggage. In German this is called Weltanschauung. By accepting atheism, you are denying other systems. You can't get away from that.
You may prefer your Weltanschauung to belief in religion or God. But you still have them. Whether you prefer to recognize them is a personal decision, just as religion is a personal decision.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Yes there are bad Atheists too.@@sanjosemike3137
This exchange reminds me my ex wife - a gradute of the top US biomedical school, she does not believe in evolution either, nevermind that at the microbial level you can observe evolution by natural selection with your own eyes, literally. Religious indoctrination is stronger than evidence-based research.
The need for meaning and the fear of death often overrides a desire to understand the truth.
Development of antibiotic resistance is evolution.
Yea well she will be one of those fools who gets made fun of and for good reason, its the same logic as "i dont believe you that gravity exists, even though you just showed me a pen dropping" i would ask her about the species pronghorns, evolved to avoid a oredator that no longer exists......
@@bobs182 There's plenty of examples. If you are willfully ignorant and don't need proof you can explain anythin gaway with "god did it!"
I spoke to a religious person once who said that even if every single scientist in every field made a claim, and all the research backed them up, but their religious book said something different, they'd believe their book. There doesn't seem to be any having a real discussion with some people.
I used to speak in tongues when I was younger, I was a Pentecostal Christian and wanted to be a pastor. I can confirm it is all just made up gibberish, it just has to sound a certain way.
I'm glad you have escaped from your parents mind control
When I was a church goer, we had a much respected minister come along one night who was said to be "very much a conduit to God and would fill the church with the Holy Spirit". Basically, he spoke with words to make people feel like they weren't doing it right and they needed to embrace God more etc etc and of course, the power of suggestion influenced everyone to go into that place in their mind. It was basically a mind trick. Everyone started praying and mumbling and basically worked themselves up into a frenzy while he went around imploring everyone to "feel God touching them, feel God over them waiting to be let in". Again, all mind games, and the more people in the church that got emotional the more others would feed off it.
I noticed one lady, she was one of those "God loves us all but I'm one of his favourites" types. She started speaking in tongues and jabbering away. I was a bit awestruck by this as I'd never seen it first hand. Then as she was babbling away, she opened one eye to look around to see if anyone was watching her.
And there it was. The great facade.
My evidence: I like a book.
no they don't.. at least 70% of christians haven't read the bible. Not even once
He is not a biologist. This statement is from my daughter, sitting next to me, who is a biophysicist.
My sentiments exactly. I am a retired healthcare professional that worked in the field for over 45 years and if this guy is a biologist,I’ll eat my diploma.
"Irrefutable evidence"? I haven't heard any evidence here. All he said was "because the bible" and "evolution is fake". Very bad arguing.
They always come on this show with “evidence” and then they always use passages from the Bible as said evidence. Its quite comical.
@@ChaosInCali Then switch to "do you believe in [scientific theory]"
The caller has a biology degree from Romper Room.
Yes indeed. I remember Romper Room !
And even then he had to re-take the test several times just to barely pass.
Me thinks he studied at Prager u😂
"I woiuld love to have some type of debate with you about the scriptures" *LITERALLY IGNORANCE AT IT’S BEST*
What is there to debate about ? One side has facts and logic on it's side and the other has a fairytale . . .
“What did Jesus say?”
“I don’t know”.
@@geronimo19611 the issue was this the phone call was literally a debate already, there was no need to say it
@@oggyoggy1299 all I know is it said he flipped gambling tables in a Jewish church (I forget what they are called)
@@geronimo19611 "FACTS & LOGIC!" Screams the lost and clueless atheist fool that thinks star dust, moist rocks and mud puddles have the INTELLIGENCE, POWER, PURPOSE, RESOURCES AND MEANS to create/design LIFE, INTELLIGENCE, LOVE, CONSCIOUSNESS, MORALITY, the human being and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body :) Atheism is pure idiocy.
The religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. That's because atheism RUNS from "reality." I would add that as an atheist, you're bankrupt of RATIONAL/POSSIBLE causes for life, intelligence, consciousness, morality and ALL the co-existent bodily systems (circulatory, respiratory, reproductive, pulmonic, digestive, skeletal, muscular, nervous, body (skin), etc., etc.) intertwined in co-dependent order in the human body.
Atheism has no RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step by step atheist explanation for reality. That’s because there isn’t one. THINK ABOUT what you’re getting into w/ the cult of atheism. GET OUT NOW. I’ll help you find truth. Atheism has none.
The sheer arrogance and ignorance of "gods-believers" is enough irrefutable evidence against them and their wild ideas.
And yet, they want real social and political power.
@@RideAcrossTheRiver
And get it because the vast majority never grows up.
@@louseveryann2181 More like the majority doesn't care about or doesn't see the threat.
@@RideAcrossTheRiver
Humans are too dumb and lazy for their intelligence.
The speaking in tounges thing. That can be tested. Languages have rules , a syntax which even if you don't understand it you can identify its structure.
If mouthing off random babble was indeed the language of god's it would have structure. Besides it seems a pretty stupid thing to bet on the existence of god on what sounds like the ramblings of people leaving the pub at closing time.
Nope. Wrong. The babbling sounds ALWAYS involve phonetic tones, and cadence that ALREADY exists in the speaker's native spoken actual language. It's also why the people who witness the person speaking "tongues" perceive the babble as "a language", instead of what it truly is, random babble.
Research analysis has shown that the output of "speaking in tongues" (glossolalia) actually does have structural features similar to structures in language, viewed as pure patterns in information. Of course, this does not prove anything but the fact that the human brain imposes structure on the sound outputs involved in glossolalia. However, we don't need atheists pumping out the same kind of dishonest bull$h!t that theists do in support of their arguments. Admit that you pulled the idea that glossolalia is structureless right out of your a$$.
A and 0 are the most used and replicated when they speak in tongue. To catch a faker let's just leave him doing it and record and ask them to repeat everything word by word. 😂
@@AtheistReligionIsCancer 1st we are not a religion. 2nd those words exist in the dictionary. And Instead of coming in the comment sneakily you can post yours openly then get a real conversation.
@@AtheistReligionIsCancer the concept of free will, atheism, and lack of morals are not mutually inclusive. Amoral theists exist. Theists who reject the notion of free will exist. Some moral people don't believe in free will. Nice try though.
Patrick is my favorite kind of Christian: “Here’s what my church and I practiced and believed wholeheartedly.” No you didn’t. ?! Excuse me?
There's no one more arrogant than a humble christian XD
Oh yes there is. Anyone who claims that the only reason you don’t agree with them is because you lack some supposedly necessary piece of knowledge is operating at the height of arrogance, and this is not limited to theism.
@@thefuturist8864 You're just wrong. It can be absolutely true that you're reaching a wrong conclusion because you lack necessary information that your interlocutor has.
The problem with theists is that they don't even have that information! They believe that magic man implanted irrefutable knowledge into their brains but have no clue how to explain it in a coherent way. And they believe so exclusively because someone else that already believed that convinced them about that.
I guess you could say that flat earthers and anti-vaxxers can reach the same level of unjustified arrogance, but 99% of the time even they base their beliefs on religion, so we go back again to religious people being the most arrogant.
@@thefuturist8864 "some supposedly necessary piece of knowledge" No, what's missing is evidence. Nobody cares that you believe in a 'god'. Trouble comes in that you force your needs on others, wheedling them into joining you.
It's funny how this guy doesn't believe Jesus but he claims to believe in Jesus.
You can make the bible say anything you want.
No evidence a Jesus or any other dying rising god did except their specific religious writings. Osiris was worshipped just prior to Christianity.
@@democrat7441 even in Jewish writings resurrections aren't really uncommon. Yashua brought back Laserus during his "lifetime". Honestly, if anything the resurrection means his sacrifice is half hearted since he didn't stay sacrificed. When my loved ones die they stay gone.
@@davidszeremi1786 It's not "the" reserrection since there were many dying rising God's and reserrection cults. Google dying rising God's. Your Jesus is the last of many dying rising God's in history. You only know one of these. You have not done research on this.
Most Christians don't realise it, but they are more a follower of Paul than they are Jesus.
Season 1 - Old Testament. God was a bit of an ass. A bully. Quite unpopular so they wrote him out for Season 2 - New Testament in favour of Jesus. I liked Jesus, I thought he was cool. But they wrote him out halfway through and then brought in Paul. The original letter writing bigot.
Jesus was forgotten about, and Paul's "Karen letters" took over. Jesus was great, Paul ruined it though. I liked Jesus, shame we don't have any contemporaneous records of his existence.
The Dunning Kruger effect is STRONG with his one!
"gods-believers": I want to speak to the manager!
The *balls* it takes to tell someone that they misunderstood what they believed in for well over 10+ years of their life...
-"But let me ask you this...."
He doesn't know what is science but he said he has a degree in biology. The joke is incredible.
"Im going to tell you that a comic book character is the ruler of the universe...and I expect you to suspend you're rational and reason to debate me."
Patrick is the poster child for extreme gish-galloping!
I have watched these programmes for many years, and i have come to the inescapable conclusion that every single religious apologist appearing on this show is unintelligent.
Ive got irrefutable evidence of a book that claims nonsense.
We can observe and see how a human develops from a single cell into a person all the time! Happens once the egg is fertilized
That's not what he was asking... I think. He wanted to know if there's evidence of something developing from a single celled organism into a human. We have ample evidence of that too. Hard to say for sure because his question was so badly worded. It's possible he was asking for how humans evolved directly from a single celled organism into a human directly like there wasn't millions of years of necessary intermediate steps.
@@adamn7777 still, how is a fertilized egg not a "single celled organism"?
@@irrelevant_noob it's a human embryo. This person clearly wanted something going from single celled non-human to multicellular human
@@adamn7777 and again, how is a zygote not a single-celled organism? -.-
And to "clearly" present a request, it should be phrased in sufficient detail. But "clearly" we disagree on what clarity means. :p
@@adamn7777They genuinely believe evolution should like a chimpanzee directly giving birth to a human. An eagle hatching from a velociraptor egg. Like Ace Ventura climbing out of the mechanical rhino's backside in 'When Nature Calls'.
What an amazing shift. The caller went from irrefutable evidence for god to do you believe in evolution? 🤣😂
Hitler tactic.
This just crazy nuts
His Nobel prize is on the way.
84 days of “theists” failing to provide any convincing reason to believe in the existence of any god, gods or other divine or supernatural beings.
Getting very close to 100 days.
15:35 Picard-level Facepalm. I felt that too, brother.
You can seriously just skip to 14:33 if you want to get to the caller's mind-exploding revelation immediately LOL
As somebody who grew up in Ohio, guys like this caller are why I left the state and never looked back...
Wow, what a dishonest caller, i cannot believe he has biology degree, although people like Georgia purdam exist so maybe he does, if so he is incredibly dishonest
Probably from some uncredited Xtian college where the study of Biology amounts to "God did it."
Can practically hear his smug little smile and him folding his arms at the end
Even with his excessively specific definition of "repeatable," we've "repeated" the evolution of multi-cellular life from single celled organisms in a lab.
But this has nothing to do with "irrefutable evidence for god." Why can't they ever stick to the point?
Lol I was raised on Acts 2:38, I could listen to this all day
It ASTOUNDS me that even after it is clearly explained--in great detail to these types while steelmanning every detail of his argument, that their claim rests on zero GROUND, they REFUSE to move from their position and enter into what I am going to refer to as
"I don't think you have understood me la-la land"
As soon as you corner them they will try to escape asking a question in order to avoid answering the question that will make them look stupid. This is called apologetics defense.
I have irrefutable evidence for no god.
Terrific. Your certainty in the correctness/rightness of your views reminds me of a fundamentalist. An intelligent person is aware of what can be known and what cannot be known. Sorry you won't be able to join the club.
@@chuckm1961 You do not want any part of this discussion with me. Here is what can be known. If you ask 1,000 different self-labeled theists to complete the sentence, "God is ...", you will get 1,000 different answers, meaning god is whatever the individual theist wants god to be. That's not how it works. That's called a fairy tale.
@@lockedonlaw I think it's possible that something may exist somewhere out there that fits a definition of a "god" (though I do not "believe" in such a god because that would require evidence). However it's very easy to prove that the god figures of organized religions do not exist, because they are defined as caring and intervening, but the fruits of the labors of these supposed gods do not exist.
@@travis1240 Yes. I don't believe in any God, but I don't see how you can have evidence or prove that there isn't one at all. Proving that there isn't a God as depicted in any religious text does seem possible, though.
@@lockedonlaw The problem with your claim about what a thousand theists would say is that all that’s needed are two identical, or near-identical, responds and your point is rendered redundant. If we ask a thousand theists to explain what they mean when they say ‘God’ there is a good chance that many of them will be quite similar to one another; this is because they will likely have arrived at their belief, or had their belief strengthened, by attending a church. This church will have its own idea of what God is, and as such its members will likely adhere to that idea.
A better way to challenge the idea of god from a predicate-based standpoint is to clarify the characteristics of the Christian god and ask two questions: (i) are any of the characteristics self-refuting? (ii) are any two or more characteristics contradictory.
Paul taught that speaking in tongues was pointless if only done in church.
Seems pretty pointless anywhere.
The golden age of atheist experience. Back when I tuned in every weekend.
Yeah "my holy book says X or Y" is not irrefutable evidence of anything. Getting the feels due to an experience isn't evidence for anything either.
How can you be a biologist and say that there is no evidence for evolution?
You can. I have a degree in biochemistry and can tell you evolution is impossible.
If Patrick is in the biology track at an accredited university they need to get him back to class D:
I love the constant "yes it is" "no it's not" "yes I do". I have yet to learn this mastery of simply saying the opposite of what the person you're talking to is saying without just staying quiet or giving an explanation
This guys cadence is driving me nuts.
Robots for Jesus
If I have to do anything other than be a thoroughly decent human being to avoid being tormented for eternity then God is just a bully created by bullies
Evidence for gods comes In the form of text written by humans.
Whats wrong with that. Do you not believe in history.
@@AbdellaHabib-pj6yh Not supernatural history only run of the mill history.
There is no way he had a Biology degree. In any general biology degree, there would have been entire subjects that went through the evidence for evolution in considerable detail. He would have been required to have a copy of a hefty textbook that explained SOME of this evidence. Now, he might have personally found the evidence unconvincing, or simply dismissed it because it contradicted his preferred religious narrative, but he simply CANNOT HONESTLY say the evidence he learned in his degree doesn't exist. He's just lying for Jesus.
Oh .. and what a shock, no irrefutable evidence for anything (including gods) was provided. (EDIT: Actually he did - he provided irrefutable evidence that he doesn't understand science in general and biological evolution in particular.)
Speaking in tongues is a third-rate performance art.
"Speaking is tongues" < ?
Sorry, "Grammarly" was down @@SundaeRoast
@@tigdogsbody Hehe, good answer 😆
Loving the new uploads.
The caller gave a prize winning example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
I have a degree in Biology, Smartology, and Godology
What on earth is the difference between a Christian and a born-again Christian?
2 brains cells vs 1 brain cell.
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED Tell us about your degree in biology, FloBloJoBoi! And tell us about your PhD that will disprove Darwin's Theory of Evolution while you are at it!
Yeah... I heard your voice on the debate and it sounded a lot like the voice of the caller on this video.
LMFAO!
Verily, Verily, I say unto thee, Except a man have an extreme lobotomy he will not believe the bullshit told in the bible.
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED Here's what we know about you, FloBloJoBoi!
1) You believe it is morally acceptable to slaughter children to punish the parents
2) You are defender of the perpetrator of the foul deeds described in (1) above
3) You are demonstrably dishonest
4) You pretend to yourself that your bible does not actually say what is written in the book
5) You are unable to tell us *HOW YOU KNOW* that you have not been *DECEIVED by SATAN!!!*
@@JESUS--NEVER--tAPPED PS> Consider the post above as me contacting you personally!
Or not! See if I give a sheet.
My autistic nephew speaks in tongues. My nephew is special, to his parents and family. That's all he needs. No fairy tales needed.
he sidesteps like a champion dodgeball player
Man oh man, was waiting for that evidence for god...yep, just what I thought. There was none. Next caller...
This guy conflates abiogenesis with evolution. Then operates on the assumption if he disproves evolution it means god.
First of all, the lies of atheism go hand-in-hand (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution, gain of complexity/gain of new information/new anatomy) and all of it has been debunked:
You’re a lost & clueless atheist or worse. Hopefully, it's just a phase you're in. If you do the research, you'll not be an atheist very long. Hell is very real. I've seen hundreds of NDE Testimonies and many of them proven. I've also seen the miracles of God too many times. So I know God is very real. The supernatural is much more real than this dying world.
I will point out to you that no atheist on the face of this earth has a rational atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. All atheist ideas are proven nonsense. So you can either continue to be a lost & clueless loser (atheist) and enjoy your temporary free will until your last gasp on earth, or you can do your duty to seek out your creator and try to know & understand why he put you here. I'll leave you with these facts:
All matter is DYING/decaying in disorder over time/going ONLY from bad to worse, YOU DO NOT PRODUCE NEW INFORMATION; YOU ONLY LOSE INFORMATION. That's why we NEVER see any of the "NONSENSE" of the asinine, lost & clueless atheist cult:
NOTHING of your asinine atheist cult exists (e.g. multiverse, big bang, abiogenesis, mistakes (mutations) gaining in complexity/new information, evolution) and NONE OF IT CAN BE EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME.
NOTHING of nature can produce the human being (e.g. star dust, moist rocks, mud puddles, hot rocks, moon dirt, warm ponds, gravity, oceans, primordial soup, evolution, bottom up production, nothing).
NOTHING but TRUE NATURE CAN BE EMPIRICALLY OBSERVED IN REAL TIME (e.g. flower bloom, reproduction, photosynthesis, digestion, respiration, top down production, gravity, sunshine).
You’re either BLIND to reality or in dangerous denial. But no atheist, as I just proved, has any bullets for battle.
@@neverendingparty7741 Liar for jesus is here again. 😀Repeating countless times debunked lies and nonsense.
Yes, exactly like stup* id creationists do.
@@neverendingparty7741_the lies of atheism_
All atheism is is the position that someone doesn’t believe any gods exist. Thats it. So what lies are you referring to?
The Big Bang is a lie of atheism?
What was the Big Bang?
How is it a lie?
How is it an atheist lie?
@@neverendingparty7741The Big Bang was discovered by a Catholic Priest.
Evolution & Common Ancestry was demonstrated by an Evangelical Christian.
Love your videos. Really helping me understand and deconstruct my old religion.
I’ve got a Degree in spotting people talking Donkey Dung. Patrick is full of it. 😂🤣😂🤣😂
I asked a man who ''walked'' with god where god went after they parted. The man was speechless.
Also brainless.
@@AtheistReligionIsCancer "When Muhammad married Aisha (age 6), he set an example for the Muslims. To this day older Muslim men marry much younger girls, following Muhammad's example."
I think you have atheists confused with Muslims.
@@AtheistReligionIsCancer The probability of finding a person who writes such nonsense as stated above is 100% in respect to his volume of brain.
God called a taxi....
@@ateoforever7434 .....and then went to eat a good Texas steak.
"I live in Texas." -- No you don't. LOL
So basically... the irrefutable evidence for God is that you first have to believe in God and then you'll think he's real, and a claim that evolution is false.
How did he get a BSc in biology without understand the evidence supporting evolution by natural selection?
Great question.
This guy must be incredible at dodge ball.
There is no such thing.
There is more evidence for blues clues than magic dad.
Prove your ridiculous atheist claim.
@@JimCastleberry I suppose you can't really prove there is no God, just like you can't prove that the Universe doesn't exist inside a giant snow globe being used to hold papers down on the desk of a Sphinx accountant. However, when we lack evidence in something's existence, we can assume that such a thing doesn't exist until we have evidence to reassess that opinion. We have no evidence that we're inside a giant snow globe, so until someone builds a telescope powerful enough to read what the pages we're holding down say, it's probably best to assume it's not true and continue researching what the Universe might actually be.
It’s a safe bet that nobody has ever accused the “irrefutable evidence” caller of being remotely bright.
He went to downstairs college.
The "irrefutable evidence" was "there are some areas in the theory of evolution, that are not yet fully studied, actually". I have seen this many times. In court. This is the dumbest, but instinctual line of defence people go to when they're guilty and know it. Going into that kind of argumentation is basically a self-report. But most people understand that, it's basic logic, only really dumb go for it. Somehow, this is the main line of argumentation for christians. Coincidense, probably.
I'm sorry. I have no idea what bachelor's degree or Ph.D. this guy is pursuing, but it can't be in biology at a regular university. Evolution is the cornerstone of biology. It is akin to saying you are a historian and subscribing to an extreme interpretation of solipsism. Well, maybe the latter is more likely.
I know it sound amazing to the general public but at degree level you really do learn that evolution is impossible. I myself have a degree in biochemistry which is even better at looking at evolution. it indeed is impossible
I'd hazard a guess that whatever university he's going to has the name "Oral Roberts" or "Pat Robertson" or "Bob Jones" attached to it.
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He's getting his degree in Biology at the University of Some You Tube Channel Of Intelligent Design.🤣🤣🤣 Then he'll start taking his Geology degree from the University Of Some You Tube Channel Of Flat Earth Science.🤣🤣🤣
I have a degree in bullshit detecting.
But yet you could tell me that trees definitely make oxygen from exhaled carbon dioxide, even though you cannot SEE it happening. And yet you will tell me that God doesn’t exist because I can’t see God.. it’s a silly argument to say God doesn’t exist but then that same person can say trees make oxygen from exhaled carbon dioxide by a PERSON.. imagine that.. a PERSON that can decide what he believes is real or not, even though he can believe some things that he cannot see and DECLARE other things that he cannot see as NOT REAL.. until one can PROVE God doesn’t exist it’s ludicrous to say God doesn’t exist because I cannot SEE GOD.
@@davidrexford586 " make oxygen from exhaled carbon dioxide, even though you cannot SEE it happening.'
Ummm, showing plants make oxygen from Carbon dioxide is a simple school experiment. I think we proved it around when I was around 12 years old...
There are several different and very simple ways to do it...
Did you not go to school or have a chemistry set when you wee younger?
There are no experiments to prove god...
@@t800fantasm2do you UNDERSTAND what I am saying?? You cannot SEE a tree taking your CARBON DIOXIDE and making oxygen if you stand in FRONT of a tree. Are you with me so far?? So you tell me I can’t know God because I can’t see God and neither can you right?? But yet you believe trees create oxygen and you can’t see the process but you then say God doesn’t exist because you can’t SEE GOD RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU??? God is A SPIRITUAL Entity that is Everywhere and all around us and Gods spirit reacts to our FAITH in God. How do we understand God by FAITH if we cannot see how Faith works to understand God with? The Bible declares we all have the same measure of Faith to understand God with. Romans12v3. I can’t give you my Faith to understand God with because you have your own same measure of Faith to understand God with. In this way I can’t boast that only I can know God when you can know God as well. I don’t SEE how Faith works but it DOES!! Are you with me so far? Just like we can’t see how trees take our carbon dioxide and make oxygen by STANDING right in front of a tree is the same analogy as seeing God operate right in front of us UNSEEN by FAITH!! Faith is the common denominator that anyone can use to understand God , even though none of us can see God. I have believed in God over 40 years or more by Faith and even though I have never seen God with my eyes, God has still done things in my midst, unseen and SEEN.. the seen part is my own experience and I can’t share that because you were never there and I still don’t know how that Seen experience happened but it DID.. So until you convince me that God doesn’t Exist, I don’t have to not Believe in God even though God has worked on my behalf unseen and seen through Supernatural occurrences. We sometimes believe we know everything with our own intellect and even believe unseen things as truth but yet we say God can’t exist because we can’t see God and that is a foolish statement.
i bet it was from the university of natural skeptisism
"There's no evidence that a single celled organism can evolve into a multi-celled organism."
Uh, a human zygote begins as a single cell and develops into a multi-celled organism. Mic drop.
"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence". C Hitchens That sums it uo nicely
God is real if you really believe in it. I went to the bank and told them I have a million dollars in my account. I really believed it, but the bank didn't.
You were believing in the wrong denomination.
If there was irrefutable evidence for God I don't think we'd be finding out about it on a call-in show on RUclips.
People like this hurt my head. I didn't know such ignorance existed.
I don't recall ever hearing a caller that had their shit enough together to pose an interesting argument, and, the hardest to achieve, could listen to the hosts respectfully and be honest when proven wrong.