The lenses used in this video Sony 85mm 1.4GM: amzn.to/2ynUOxf Sigma 135mm 1.8: bhpho.to/2NO7RP1 Sigma 105mm 1.4: amzn.to/2yoPk5d Sony 70-200 2.8GM: amzn.to/2RzbOcz Which was your favorite and why?
Dear I am from Pakistan All of this my favourites that is why I have no any Dslr and Mirrorless Camera but I always like Sony E Mount Cameras like Sony A6000 Sony A7
135mm f/1.8 Art- I can't afford to own them all but did sell my outstanding Sony 85mm f1.8 once I picked up the 135. The 135's sharpness, color and focus accuracy are fantastic and the bokeh's pure magic.
Interesting comparison! My feeling is they all look great and if you didn't have all those lenses available, whatever lens you use would give you gorgeous results and you'd make work. So pick one and enjoy!
I have the 85, 105, 135 and 70-200. The last two are heavy as heck. I love the bokeh of 105 but heavy and bulky so I end up using 85 like 70-80% of the time unless I need something special which I use the 105 Sigma for.
If you have time, add a backlight scenario to this because while the sigma 105 1.4 is superior in bokeh power to the Sony 85 1.4GM I suspect it doesn't handle flaring as well (based on your previous video). This is often an overlooked thing that will have a bigger effect on your picture than that slight bokeh power.
That 135 1.8 is just mazing,so sharp and i like that bokeh really smooth like it make haze come at there backround and yes that so beautiful Kayla popup from at there,she is just lovely model ,thanks video its good compare these lenses,because most used at portraits
I waited months to save up and acquire the Sony GMaster 85mm 1.4 as my first lense on my A7Rii. The focus was sludge, but the portraiture shots on that thing are yet to be beat by any other lenses I have gotten since then. Thanks for the video sir!
Having 85, 105, 135 and 200mm in one lens is just so good, having ability to change perspective, composition, compression etc by just using a zoom ring instead of changing lenses! But prime is prime and will be always better in terms of image quality.
I just sold my Canon 6D along with my canon 50, 85 and 135 lenses and got an a7iii and Sony FE 85 f/1.8 after renting that kit for a week, love it. Also picked up the 50 f/1.8 and will be adding the Sigma 135 soon. The 85 is my favorite for studio work and its on my camera the majority of the time. I use the 50 when I am shooting several models together or in tighter spots and I use the 135 on location. Its brilliant when shooting on the beach for instance. I have had the Canon 70-200 in the past but I dont like zooms for multipole reasons, Im a prime only shooter.
I've watched as many videos of the Sigma 105/1.4 ART as I can find (including your stand-alone YT review) and the elephant in the room has been the weight of this lens. Otherwise everyone who has reviewed it thinks that its a stellar lens. I guess no one should complain about its weight when they buy it - that part is well established. Hoping to own one someday!!
From a practicality standpoint I like to use a 70-200 2.8. You can put on teleconverters and turn them into sports and wildlife lenses. Much better for run and gun than primes. But I also like to have a smaller lightweight prime as well. Much more pleasant to work with while shooting portraits. Don't have to deal with the weight.
105mm f/1.4 That's my dream focal length & aperture combo. The working distance is perfect all the while getting that shallow depth of field and low light. For how I shoot, a 105mm f/1.4 is more versatile than a 85mm f/1.2 & 135mm f/1.8. It has the best of both worlds. Unlike a 35mm f/1.2, which never seems to isolate the subject enough like a 50mm f/1.2 nor is it wide enough like a 24mm f/2.8. A 35mm seems more of a compromise where as a 105mm is "the sweet spot" or "best of both worlds" type of lens.
I own the 85/1.4 GM, the e-mount Sigma 105/1.4, the 70-200/2.8 GM and I rented the Sigma 135/1.8. I really really like the 85/1.4 GM but there is just something VERY special about the 105/1.4...it is just razor RAZOR sharp wide open. As is the 85 but I feel the 105 is even sharper which is a scary thought...LOL. The 135/1.8 is just as sharp but I really like the focal length of the 105 over the 135 for portrait work, it's a nice "happy medium." Yes the 105 is a big heavy lens but I just rigged up a Peak Design Leash to the tripod collar which makes it very nice to carry over the should and take the weight off of the mount.
my 70-200 G Master will be here tomorrow!! the truth is that video where you compared the 85 with the 70-200 a while back is what caught my eye on the 70-200, and several months later i am finally able to afford it. thanks.
The review that I’ve been waiting for the longest time !!!! I was considering the 85 GM or the 105 Sigma Emount. I’ve been renting the 105 with the MC 11 because the Emount is not out yet and I just love it, weight and all. The bokeh just simply melts it all. Cost wise, between a 2nd hand 85 or a new 105, the difference is not much here... Leaning towards the 105 most definitely.
As someone who has a 85mm and 105mm (though not the Sigma (though I have tried the Sigma)) I would go for the practicality of the G master over the extra bokah of the Sigma. There will come a point when you go, whilst the hell am I carrying around a brick, like the Sigma. My Zeiss 85mm f/1.4 Milvus weighs 1.3kg (still 400g less than the Sigma) and more often than not I will go for the lighter Nikkor 105mm f/1.4e (even though optically the Zeiss is better, but it weighs 270g more) and the Sony 85mm weighs, just over, half as much as the Sigma 105mm
Michael Laing hi. Thanks. I’ve bought the 105 since and I absolutely love it. The only issue to your point is the weight. It’s awesome for shots of wedding and events, but I made a terrible mistake bringing it for my hols to Israel (I’m actually now in the middle of it) and it’s been in my bag as I don’t use that length often during travels. I’m already lamenting on why i brought with me for its weight and size. Hopefully I’d be able to put into good use when I’m in Jerusalem later on.
Thanks for the great comparison Manny! I think out of these lenses, the 85mm GM and the 70-200mm GM are the best. The 85 has the best bokeh and that compression with the 70-200 is so good. I'm getting my A7r3 and the 85mm GM soon and can't wait to use it. Appreciate all your videos, thanks once again!
I love the look of my Nikon 85 f/1.4D but I'm thinking about the Sony 85 when I go mirrorless and appreciate this review. I'd have a hard time choosing between the lenses you tested.
I shoot fashion and beauty and I'm by no means a super professional, big name photographer but I have been using a 24-70 and 70-200 for about 2 years now and I've started to move to primes. I use my 55mm 1.4 Zeiss for probably 70% of my compositions, my 24mm GM for those rare occasions where I need to compose wide and I just recently started looking at 85, 100 and 135 lenses to replace my 70-200 but I've quickly found out that since my main lens is a 55mm, the 85mm focal length doesn't really offer anything special compared to the 55mm and I'm not really getting that much closer with it either so for me it was a fight between either the 105mm Sigma or the 135mm GM! I have just decided I will order the 135mm GM because I really don't like how Sigma makes things in the image look... It's hard to explain, it's like I would focus on the model but then everything around the model would be one dimensional and flat, like you couldn't tell how far stuff was from each other, like for example, if you had two cars one behind another, they would literally just look like you glued two car stickers on top of each other, whereas when I tried the 135mm GM, it would make everything look 3D, just like my 55mm Zeiss Otus does and I LOVE THAT kind of look because it reminds me of those old film and cinema lenses! Plus it looks more realistic because it's not just a flat image and for fashion and beauty shots that's SUUUPER useful and makes the model stand out from the environment even at f8, f11 or f16! And the 135mm focal length is MUCH BETTER for head, head n shoulder, waist up, close up and detail beauty shots, since I use 55mm for basically everything else!
85mm (or any FF equivalent) is kinda all rounder for portraits, especially great for portrait shots in tight spaces, 135mm is already too tight in that manner except for head shots maybe. But I,m really melting on those rare occasions when I'm able to steal / borrow the 300mm f2,8; in that regard I totally agree with Ken...
I am aware that this is specifically about Sony, but it is possible to use adapters... the ultimate portrait lens is the Canon 200mm f2. I know it costs an arm and a leg to buy it and so it is rare as hen’s teeth, but it is a lens I love, and well worth having to hop around minus some limbs :) It is one of the two sharpest lenses made by Canon (the other being the 300 f2.8) plus that f2 at 200 is the same as around f1 at 105mm or 0.75 at 85mm or f1.4 at 135mm. The extra blur is noticeable, and combined with extreme sharpness gives stunning portrait rendering. I love 200mm as a portrait length and in studio it is a great length. I use the 70-200 2.8 constantly in studio work, and am always amazed that the 85 tradition that grew because good teles were hard to make in earlier times and that 85 is ‘the’ portrait length continues into our current era when lens excellence is now found at all focal lengths and lens choice should now be made for purely artistic reasons. 85 only became the standard because it was the longest commonly available tele, but there was always the recognition that longer focal lengths produced more flattering renditions and came with a depth of field advantage. Now 200mm is often liked because it is the longest length where the lens is still relatively easy to hand hold.
After I got an 85mm f1.8 it has been my go-to portrait lens and my 50mm f1.4 has been collecting dust in a drawer somewhere. But after seeing the performance of that 105mm that was freaking awesome.
Great video, I just received my Sony A7iii today and because of your videos I just ordered my first lens on this system. I went with the Sigma art 135mm 1.8 e-mount. I'm doing a Quinceñera this weekend and can't wait to try out my new gear.
85 1.4 GM aka the "Butter Maker"...Size is perfect and like you said, these lenses are pretty much indistinguishable for full body shots, but with the 85 you have a way better working distance and interaction with the model. Interaction with the model = she's more comfortable = she evokes better emotion = your results turn out better. I would love to have the 135 1.8 as well, but if I could only afford one of these, which is true at the moment (LOL) it would be the 85 GM that I own, especially since I'm trying to start doing more studio work in addition to my on location work.
Really like the 105mm 1,4, but as you said: That's a monster of a lens. I probably will wait a year and see if somebody else can offer that focal length in smaller.
3 years later and counting. I say go for it if you all ready bring lots of gear to a shoot. I just keep a spider belt holster attachment on the tripod mount and holster it and my a7r3 every time I'm not actively shooting. It's also an underrated street photography lens, you just have to bring the right sling bag and or holster.
Thank you sir! This is very good comparison of something many of us are wondering about. My 2c - 105 and longer allow to shoot very close i.e. beauty shots with little face distortion. 85 when comming very close starts to distort a bit, So definitely something longer than 85 should be available though for limited cases. .... It could be 105 macro ....
In dilemma, 105 or 135. i do alot of low light night time sports photography of run crews and i was thinking which lens is better. longer focal length 1 stop lesser light or shorter focal length with 1 stop more light. Decisions, decisions...
Great video...I can't believe you finally uploaded a video in 4k! (and yes, there is a difference even with RUclips compression). The 135mm looks the best to me.
I have the 70-200mm 2.8 and I love it. The best looking Bokah was definitely the 105mm. I previously wanted the 85 mm but you sold me on the 105 mm. By the way I’m a Nikon Man.
I'm before buying sigma lenses, which one will be the best - mainly outdoor portrait sessions, I'm thinking about 105 and 135mm, which one will be the best?
Thanks for the review! I think I'm going with the 135mm save a few dollars and really the client won't know the difference if there is any. These lenses look amazing and you can't go wrong either way.
Hard choice between them, loved the 135 more I think. I started with the Sony Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70mm f/4 ZA OSS Lens and love it to death and got a rokinon 50mm next... I am more film then photos...
The difference was very very minimal. I guess it's more about room to work and compression of the scene than anything else. You can shoot very nice portraits with any of these, but if you don't have room the 135 and 200 become too big fast (at least for full body). But a 200 can compress the background heavily so you can take beautiful shots where there is only a strip of nature or field.
The difference between 85 and 135 is absolutely massive. I don't think your eye is tuned enough if you think it's minimal. Especially in practice, at different angles, it changes the character of the face and mood of scenes quite massively.
I watched it again on my tv to see the details better. The effect is less noticeable because you don't see her ears. Maybe the type of shots, model and hairstyle don't really show you how big the differences can be. If you see the differences, kudos to you. I guess I'm not on your level. To me the differences in facial compression in this video are minimal (The background compression is obvious). Her features with her unturned nose and protruding lips stay almost equal because of the slightly different shot, position, facial expression. But if I can hardly tell, do you think your client can? I've seen better examples of the facial compression effect. Not showing the pictures side by side, only for a few seconds. I need to pauze the video and look at it very detailed to see the differences in the face between every step up in focal length. The effect here from 85 to 105 and from 105 to 135 is very very small. Yes from 85 to 135 is bigger. That's 1,5 times the distance. Btw the 85mm headshot had a focus on her nose, so only one eye is sharp in the depth of field. For the headshots the differences are most noticeable, but even then quite hard for me when comparing one step up in focal lengths each time. I guess I need to take more pictures.
I will go for the Sony 135mm 1.8 GM ! I have it and can very highly recommended it. The Sigma 105 and 135 are too big and heavy. A very good alternative are the Samyang AF 135mm 1.8
Agree, 85 1.4 rules. And you don’t have to back up as far as you do with most of the others to get a full body shot. Though I have a second camera shooting 24-70 2.8 G Master for covering the full body shots.
I always find it interesting to see when people have the level displayed in the viewfinder, I'd find it so distracting and annoying it'd be the first thing I'd turn off haha.
Sony's 135mm f/1.8 Sonnar t* a mount has become my favorite. I own the 85mm f1.4 and f1.8, that extra reach in a telephoto really makes a difference in background separation. If you have tried the 70-200mm f2.8 at 200 you really understand. Sigma was smart to put out an e-mount 135mm f1.8. You may need a moving dollie to transport it, but it's a great lens. I'm sure Sony will announce their GM version by April 2019 so we can take out that 4th mortgage to afford it.
I might go with the 135 because of this video. The 70-200 is super appealing because of how versatile it is but 2.8 is like a stop and half slower than the 135mm. I like portraiture more than other arts of photography and I think I would be happier with the 135.
Pshaw... the ultimate portrait lens comparison for Sony FE for year 2018 (next year we will have other options - incuding the Voightlander 110 2.5 APO lanthar, etc.).
I have the 200mm 2.8 and the working distance has just exhausted me. It’s not as versatile because you have to have it at the 175mm sweet spot and trying to get full frame at that distance is not easy. Now I’m trying to decide on 85mm, 105mm, or 135mm. I love compression and 3D pop, but after owning the 200mm, I’m not sure I can deal with another heavy lens. I’m most likely going with 85, because it’s a pretty awesome lens for street photography as well. Couple with 35/50mm, and you have most of it handled.
The lenses used in this video
Sony 85mm 1.4GM: amzn.to/2ynUOxf
Sigma 135mm 1.8: bhpho.to/2NO7RP1
Sigma 105mm 1.4: amzn.to/2yoPk5d
Sony 70-200 2.8GM: amzn.to/2RzbOcz
Which was your favorite and why?
Would it be possible to show all of those pictures next to each other?
Make a video how you edit photos
Manny what is the screen you have mounted on your camera?how much was it and where can we get it?
Dear I am from Pakistan All of this my favourites that is why I have no any Dslr and Mirrorless Camera but I always like Sony E Mount Cameras like Sony A6000 Sony A7
Sigma 105mm 1.4
135mm f/1.8 Art- I can't afford to own them all but did sell my outstanding Sony 85mm f1.8 once I picked up the 135. The 135's sharpness, color and focus accuracy are fantastic and the bokeh's pure magic.
Tom Irwin I used the 85 1.8 for a year or so but as soon as I used the 85 1.4 --I was hooked. Sold the 85 1.8.
I did the opposite and got rid of the sigma 135 to 85 g master.
hi! how good is the 135 1.8 for action shots?
I like them all, but I like the best 135mm 1.8 for sure! Kayla is the best, lol. She's beautiful and funny.
Idk bro that 105mm big but damn that quality
Dude, loving the comparisons here. That 105 is butter. They are all butter. Let's make pancakes. 🤘
Agreed. 105 is sick!
85mm is my fav. honestly clients never even care lol.
ridiculously right about 95%
Lol
85 always leaves me wanting more, but you're right, non-photogs won't tell the difference.
@@clydelaya6230 don't you mean 85%
@@mostlymessingabout😂😂😂😂
That model is GORGEOUS!! And she looks fun!
Great video! This is my "Ménage à trois" Sony A7Riii + Sigma 85mm Art -+Sony 70-200 GM = Love
thomasiby I had the 85mm Art & the 135mm Art!. Other than being a more usable focal length the 85mm is nowhere near the quality of the 135mm!.
Same as you dude. I like the 105. But the 85 gmaster and working distant is all I need to work with.
Interesting comparison! My feeling is they all look great and if you didn't have all those lenses available, whatever lens you use would give you gorgeous results and you'd make work. So pick one and enjoy!
I have the 85, 105, 135 and 70-200. The last two are heavy as heck. I love the bokeh of 105 but heavy and bulky so I end up using 85 like 70-80% of the time unless I need something special which I use the 105 Sigma for.
If you have time, add a backlight scenario to this because while the sigma 105 1.4 is superior in bokeh power to the Sony 85 1.4GM I suspect it doesn't handle flaring as well (based on your previous video). This is often an overlooked thing that will have a bigger effect on your picture than that slight bokeh power.
Bro I live for these viewfinder videos. My a73 will be here tomorrow and these videos are getting me so hyped
That 135 1.8 is just mazing,so sharp and i like that bokeh really smooth like it make haze come at there backround and yes that so beautiful Kayla popup from at there,she is just lovely model ,thanks video its good compare these lenses,because most used at portraits
Oh my days... I've watched this video 14 times now...
Right time to focus on comparison of lenses
I waited months to save up and acquire the Sony GMaster 85mm 1.4 as my first lense on my A7Rii. The focus was sludge, but the portraiture shots on that thing are yet to be beat by any other lenses I have gotten since then.
Thanks for the video sir!
Having 85, 105, 135 and 200mm in one lens is just so good, having ability to change perspective, composition, compression etc by just using a zoom ring instead of changing lenses! But prime is prime and will be always better in terms of image quality.
Omg the chemistry between you two!
not sure what's more impressive the compression in those backgrounds or you compressing so much great info into a 4 minute video!
The 135mm 1.8 is hands down thee best one!
I just sold my Canon 6D along with my canon 50, 85 and 135 lenses and got an a7iii and Sony FE 85 f/1.8 after renting that kit for a week, love it. Also picked up the 50 f/1.8 and will be adding the Sigma 135 soon. The 85 is my favorite for studio work and its on my camera the majority of the time. I use the 50 when I am shooting several models together or in tighter spots and I use the 135 on location. Its brilliant when shooting on the beach for instance. I have had the Canon 70-200 in the past but I dont like zooms for multipole reasons, Im a prime only shooter.
I've watched as many videos of the Sigma 105/1.4 ART as I can find (including your stand-alone YT review) and the elephant in the room has been the weight of this lens. Otherwise everyone who has reviewed it thinks that its a stellar lens. I guess no one should complain about its weight when they buy it - that part is well established. Hoping to own one someday!!
85MM still the most portable out of the 4 tested. Hey you should do a backpack or travel gear episode. would love to see how/what you bring !
From a practicality standpoint I like to use a 70-200 2.8. You can put on teleconverters and turn them into sports and wildlife lenses. Much better for run and gun than primes. But I also like to have a smaller lightweight prime as well. Much more pleasant to work with while shooting portraits. Don't have to deal with the weight.
The 105 mm lens still got the energy to bring out that amazing and hilarious picture.
Thanks 💪🙏
I loved to see the result side by side to compare better, like the mosaic. Thank you for the video
Absolutely love this comparison and now I know what lens I'm probably going to get!
Which one did you get? 😎
I got 105 f1.4.
It's a beast of a lens.
@@reactortwotv3782 me 2 after watchin this video
Both 105mm and 135mm Sigmas are amazing!
I think I'm going with the 135 too. I Googled stock images between the 85 and 135 and the 135 does seem to have that 3D pop. It's gorgeous.
105mm f/1.4
That's my dream focal length & aperture combo. The working distance is perfect all the while getting that shallow depth of field and low light. For how I shoot, a 105mm f/1.4 is more versatile than a 85mm f/1.2 & 135mm f/1.8. It has the best of both worlds. Unlike a 35mm f/1.2, which never seems to isolate the subject enough like a 50mm f/1.2 nor is it wide enough like a 24mm f/2.8. A 35mm seems more of a compromise where as a 105mm is "the sweet spot" or "best of both worlds" type of lens.
85 1.4 gm .. amazing quality and perfect size
That 105 renders beautifully!
I own the 85/1.4 GM, the e-mount Sigma 105/1.4, the 70-200/2.8 GM and I rented the Sigma 135/1.8. I really really like the 85/1.4 GM but there is just something VERY special about the 105/1.4...it is just razor RAZOR sharp wide open. As is the 85 but I feel the 105 is even sharper which is a scary thought...LOL. The 135/1.8 is just as sharp but I really like the focal length of the 105 over the 135 for portrait work, it's a nice "happy medium." Yes the 105 is a big heavy lens but I just rigged up a Peak Design Leash to the tripod collar which makes it very nice to carry over the should and take the weight off of the mount.
my 70-200 G Master will be here tomorrow!! the truth is that video where you compared the 85 with the 70-200 a while back is what caught my eye on the 70-200, and several months later i am finally able to afford it. thanks.
The review that I’ve been waiting for the longest time !!!! I was considering the 85 GM or the 105 Sigma Emount.
I’ve been renting the 105 with the MC 11 because the Emount is not out yet and I just love it, weight and all. The bokeh just simply melts it all.
Cost wise, between a 2nd hand 85 or a new 105, the difference is not much here...
Leaning towards the 105 most definitely.
As someone who has a 85mm and 105mm (though not the Sigma (though I have tried the Sigma)) I would go for the practicality of the G master over the extra bokah of the Sigma. There will come a point when you go, whilst the hell am I carrying around a brick, like the Sigma.
My Zeiss 85mm f/1.4 Milvus weighs 1.3kg (still 400g less than the Sigma) and more often than not I will go for the lighter Nikkor 105mm f/1.4e (even though optically the Zeiss is better, but it weighs 270g more) and the Sony 85mm weighs, just over, half as much as the Sigma 105mm
Michael Laing hi. Thanks. I’ve bought the 105 since and I absolutely love it. The only issue to your point is the weight.
It’s awesome for shots of wedding and events, but I made a terrible mistake bringing it for my hols to Israel (I’m actually now in the middle of it) and it’s been in my bag as I don’t use that length often during travels. I’m already lamenting on why i brought with me for its weight and size.
Hopefully I’d be able to put into good use when I’m in Jerusalem later on.
Elgin Joshua How Sticking with my 85 G Master as I don’t want to back up any farther! And the 85 G rocks.
Allen Freeman yes. And now I’m leaning on that too ◡̈. Considering selling the 105 for the 85 GM or even the 85 f1.8.
Kayla’s back!
Manny.... Im.so happy to see that presentation for passing 100000 subscribers , you deserve it, I wish you all the best
105 Does it for me , really impressed by it !
I liked the bokeh on the 105 the best, but I liked how the 200 made the model look the best.
What's the point of it tho... like nice bokeh but you can't even tell what's happening in the background.
Thanks for the great comparison Manny! I think out of these lenses, the 85mm GM and the 70-200mm GM are the best. The 85 has the best bokeh and that compression with the 70-200 is so good. I'm getting my A7r3 and the 85mm GM soon and can't wait to use it. Appreciate all your videos, thanks once again!
I particularly like the FE 85/1.8, it is ridiculously lightweight.
love these lenses comparisons, keep it up manny
What gets me in this video is not the lenses is the auto focus technology on the eyes. That is sick. I wished I had that in my nikon.
I love the look of my Nikon 85 f/1.4D but I'm thinking about the Sony 85 when I go mirrorless and appreciate this review. I'd have a hard time choosing between the lenses you tested.
THIS GIRL
I shoot fashion and beauty and I'm by no means a super professional, big name photographer but I have been using a 24-70 and 70-200 for about 2 years now and I've started to move to primes. I use my 55mm 1.4 Zeiss for probably 70% of my compositions, my 24mm GM for those rare occasions where I need to compose wide and I just recently started looking at 85, 100 and 135 lenses to replace my 70-200 but I've quickly found out that since my main lens is a 55mm, the 85mm focal length doesn't really offer anything special compared to the 55mm and I'm not really getting that much closer with it either so for me it was a fight between either the 105mm Sigma or the 135mm GM!
I have just decided I will order the 135mm GM because I really don't like how Sigma makes things in the image look... It's hard to explain, it's like I would focus on the model but then everything around the model would be one dimensional and flat, like you couldn't tell how far stuff was from each other, like for example, if you had two cars one behind another, they would literally just look like you glued two car stickers on top of each other, whereas when I tried the 135mm GM, it would make everything look 3D, just like my 55mm Zeiss Otus does and I LOVE THAT kind of look because it reminds me of those old film and cinema lenses! Plus it looks more realistic because it's not just a flat image and for fashion and beauty shots that's SUUUPER useful and makes the model stand out from the environment even at f8, f11 or f16!
And the 135mm focal length is MUCH BETTER for head, head n shoulder, waist up, close up and detail beauty shots, since I use 55mm for basically everything else!
The 85mm headshot is perfect, 135mm headshot gives it this dizzy feeling, weird "pop", BUT full body, 135mm crushed it!
im with the 85 mm too
85mm (or any FF equivalent) is kinda all rounder for portraits, especially great for portrait shots in tight spaces, 135mm is already too tight in that manner except for head shots maybe. But I,m really melting on those rare occasions when I'm able to steal / borrow the 300mm f2,8; in that regard I totally agree with Ken...
I am aware that this is specifically about Sony, but it is possible to use adapters... the ultimate portrait lens is the Canon 200mm f2. I know it costs an arm and a leg to buy it and so it is rare as hen’s teeth, but it is a lens I love, and well worth having to hop around minus some limbs :) It is one of the two sharpest lenses made by Canon (the other being the 300 f2.8) plus that f2 at 200 is the same as around f1 at 105mm or 0.75 at 85mm or f1.4 at 135mm. The extra blur is noticeable, and combined with extreme sharpness gives stunning portrait rendering.
I love 200mm as a portrait length and in studio it is a great length. I use the 70-200 2.8 constantly in studio work, and am always amazed that the 85 tradition that grew because good teles were hard to make in earlier times and that 85 is ‘the’ portrait length continues into our current era when lens excellence is now found at all focal lengths and lens choice should now be made for purely artistic reasons. 85 only became the standard because it was the longest commonly available tele, but there was always the recognition that longer focal lengths produced more flattering renditions and came with a depth of field advantage. Now 200mm is often liked because it is the longest length where the lens is still relatively easy to hand hold.
the video that i was waiting for🙏🏻
After I got an 85mm f1.8 it has been my go-to portrait lens and my 50mm f1.4 has been collecting dust in a drawer somewhere. But after seeing the performance of that 105mm that was freaking awesome.
Great video, I just received my Sony A7iii today and because of your videos I just ordered my first lens on this system. I went with the Sigma art 135mm 1.8 e-mount. I'm doing a Quinceñera this weekend and can't wait to try out my new gear.
Those shots taken with the 85/1.4 and 105/1.4 look amazing. Damn!
The compression is perfect.
85 1.4 GM aka the "Butter Maker"...Size is perfect and like you said, these lenses are pretty much indistinguishable for full body shots, but with the 85 you have a way better working distance and interaction with the model. Interaction with the model = she's more comfortable = she evokes better emotion = your results turn out better. I would love to have the 135 1.8 as well, but if I could only afford one of these, which is true at the moment (LOL) it would be the 85 GM that I own, especially since I'm trying to start doing more studio work in addition to my on location work.
Nice one manny! Great choices of lens to compare.
Face looks a bit better with with the 70-200 @200, but otherwise, the 105 is a clear winner.
Now we just need Sony to release a "compact" 105 f1.4.
That would be a $2.5k lens if not more :O
I really like your videos and especially with this model of yours who is very friendly and yields great clicks.
OMG! I’m been waiting this for so long! Jesus!! Thanks manny!
Really like the 105mm 1,4, but as you said: That's a monster of a lens. I probably will wait a year and see if somebody else can offer that focal length in smaller.
3 years later and counting. I say go for it if you all ready bring lots of gear to a shoot. I just keep a spider belt holster attachment on the tripod mount and holster it and my a7r3 every time I'm not actively shooting. It's also an underrated street photography lens, you just have to bring the right sling bag and or holster.
Loved seeing the differences here. These are definitely the best kinds of vids to see before you purchase new glass!
that girl is GORGEOUS bro! great personality too..makes for better photos and content. great video as always
I Bought the 135mm 1.8 Art I think it's the best lens for Portraits.. I just love it
Thank you sir! This is very good comparison of something many of us are wondering about.
My 2c - 105 and longer allow to shoot very close i.e. beauty shots with little face distortion. 85 when comming very close starts to distort a bit, So definitely something longer than 85 should be available though for limited cases. .... It could be 105 macro ....
Man I love that full frame look!
In dilemma, 105 or 135. i do alot of low light night time sports photography of run crews and i was thinking which lens is better. longer focal length 1 stop lesser light or shorter focal length with 1 stop more light. Decisions, decisions...
Great video...I can't believe you finally uploaded a video in 4k! (and yes, there is a difference even with RUclips compression). The 135mm looks the best to me.
I have the 70-200mm 2.8 and I love it. The best looking Bokah was definitely the 105mm. I previously wanted the 85 mm but you sold me on the 105 mm. By the way I’m a Nikon Man.
I'm before buying sigma lenses, which one will be the best - mainly outdoor portrait sessions, I'm thinking about 105 and 135mm, which one will be the best?
love all of your videos dude 😍
Thanks for the review! I think I'm going with the 135mm save a few dollars and really the client won't know the difference if there is any. These lenses look amazing and you can't go wrong either way.
Just got the 105 it’s my new favorite lens it’s fun to use
Hi Manny.
What’s the name of the Video recorder you’re using in this shoot.
Thanks for sharing. And thank you for making it simple and effective
Hard choice between them, loved the 135 more I think. I started with the Sony Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70mm f/4 ZA OSS Lens and love it to death and got a rokinon 50mm next... I am more film then photos...
They all look great but I think I prefer the 105mm and the 135mm. Great shots Manny.
The difference was very very minimal. I guess it's more about room to work and compression of the scene than anything else. You can shoot very nice portraits with any of these, but if you don't have room the 135 and 200 become too big fast (at least for full body). But a 200 can compress the background heavily so you can take beautiful shots where there is only a strip of nature or field.
The difference between 85 and 135 is absolutely massive. I don't think your eye is tuned enough if you think it's minimal. Especially in practice, at different angles, it changes the character of the face and mood of scenes quite massively.
I watched it again on my tv to see the details better. The effect is less noticeable because you don't see her ears. Maybe the type of shots, model and hairstyle don't really show you how big the differences can be. If you see the differences, kudos to you. I guess I'm not on your level. To me the differences in facial compression in this video are minimal (The background compression is obvious). Her features with her unturned nose and protruding lips stay almost equal because of the slightly different shot, position, facial expression.
But if I can hardly tell, do you think your client can? I've seen better examples of the facial compression effect. Not showing the pictures side by side, only for a few seconds. I need to pauze the video and look at it very detailed to see the differences in the face between every step up in focal length. The effect here from 85 to 105 and from 105 to 135 is very very small. Yes from 85 to 135 is bigger. That's 1,5 times the distance.
Btw the 85mm headshot had a focus on her nose, so only one eye is sharp in the depth of field.
For the headshots the differences are most noticeable, but even then quite hard for me when comparing one step up in focal lengths each time. I guess I need to take more pictures.
That 105 is life bro. My goodness.
I will go for the Sony 135mm 1.8 GM ! I have it and can very highly recommended it. The Sigma 105 and 135 are too big and heavy. A very good alternative are the Samyang AF 135mm 1.8
Agree, 85 1.4 rules. And you don’t have to back up as far as you do with most of the others to get a full body shot. Though I have a second camera shooting 24-70 2.8 G Master for covering the full body shots.
Good review. I might have to check out that 135 as an addition to the 85. Love the look of the 105 but probably won’t be in my bag anytime soon
Well.. here's a video that reminds me why I love photography.
Kayla is hilarious
my fav is the 135! C'mon Sony already!!! Thanks Manny great comparison!!!
Great video Manny, as always, I own the 85mm but that 105 may have to end up on the xmas wish list !!
For me the best Lens is the 135mm 1.8!!Wohoooo
love your work brother, salute
thank you for all the great videos! such great work!
I always find it interesting to see when people have the level displayed in the viewfinder, I'd find it so distracting and annoying it'd be the first thing I'd turn off haha.
Sony's 135mm f/1.8 Sonnar t* a mount has become my favorite. I own the 85mm f1.4 and f1.8, that extra reach in a telephoto really makes a difference in background separation. If you have tried the 70-200mm f2.8 at 200 you really understand. Sigma was smart to put out an e-mount 135mm f1.8. You may need a moving dollie to transport it, but it's a great lens. I'm sure Sony will announce their GM version by April 2019 so we can take out that 4th mortgage to afford it.
Beautiful work, Manny!
I liked the 105mm the best. That 3d pop is crazy.
In this case, no doubt, 85 is the preference because of its size and convenience, since the photos seem not much different in result.
I absolutely love shooting location portraits with a 135. I'm thinking of adding an 85mm 1.2 to my kit though.
Great video Manny! I'm loving the 105mm!
Fantastic comparison! Thank you :)
Another great review. Your reviews give me everything i need to see and know. I trust them!! You have the best models too. You rock Dude!!
I might go with the 135 because of this video. The 70-200 is super appealing because of how versatile it is but 2.8 is like a stop and half slower than the 135mm. I like portraiture more than other arts of photography and I think I would be happier with the 135.
The comparison video I've been waiting for!!! Thank you!
Pshaw... the ultimate portrait lens comparison for Sony FE for year 2018 (next year we will have other options - incuding the Voightlander 110 2.5 APO lanthar, etc.).
Great review.... very fresh attitude to photography
I have the 200mm 2.8 and the working distance has just exhausted me. It’s not as versatile because you have to have it at the 175mm sweet spot and trying to get full frame at that distance is not easy. Now I’m trying to decide on 85mm, 105mm, or 135mm. I love compression and 3D pop, but after owning the 200mm, I’m not sure I can deal with another heavy lens. I’m most likely going with 85, because it’s a pretty awesome lens for street photography as well. Couple with 35/50mm, and you have most of it handled.